Re: is it normal
Adrian, I agree very much with David's suggestions, the stuttering of Voice Over is a classic symptom of an over full App Switcher and / or a handset which is rarely power cycled. My strong recommendation for all iOS users, is to empty their App Switcher daily and perform a power cycle immediately there after. This has kept my iPhone and iPad running smoothly ever since the first stuttering symptoms appeared. In addition, as a system admin I also hold to David's assertion that there is a possible chance of corruption by performing the forced collapsing of the iOS platform resulting from the 5 successive presses of the power key. The iOS device at this time is not expecting this crash and as a result maybe accessing a key string of code, or a significant part of your user data. If this happened at the exact moment you performed the 5 successive presses of the power key, it is conceivable that it might corrupt data. The 12 second or however long it is, press of power and home at the same time, is far more logical and sensible. As it is coded into the iOS as a sort of… I want to reboot this device, prepare for it please and stop doing anything critical notification to the device. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 30 May 2012, at 23:17, adrian wrote: > is it normal for voice over to stutter a lot? every time i read using voice > over i find it stutters a lot. does any one know of a way i can fix it? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
itunes alternatikve
Hey folks. I'd like to be able to transfer info and other stuff between my IPhone 4 s and my pc. without using itunes. i'd like to avoid jail-breaking my phone, because i don't know what I might do if I did. i still need to be able to perform updates and so forth, and I have the apple care protection plan for the phone. if jail breaking the phone won't void any of this, I'd be willing to try it, but if it's best not to jail-break, I'd like some way of transferring stuff between phone and pc without itunes. Anyone's thoughts on this are most welcome. Shane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
TypeInBraille [was "Re: typing on the phone"]
I'd suggest listening to the demo on the TypeInBraille web site at http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille I haven't downloaded the app myself, but just from listening to the demo, you would move back by using the TypeInBraille roter to switch to navigation mode mode and then use two finger swipes to the left to move back by word or one finger swipes to the left to move back by character. To delete, move the roter to the select mode and then use the same gestures to select the text instead of just move over it. Now use the one finger swipe down to bring up the menu and double tap on the cut option. To insert text, turn the roter back to the insert mode and type away as normally. On 30/05/12 20:56, Jane wrote: > How do you edit? I have managed to delete mistakes as i catch them, but what > if I made a mistake a sentence back and want to fix it? How do I go back > word by word or character by character, and then how do I fix it? > > Jane > > > > > On May 30, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Sandy Finley wrote: > >> Kim, I downloaded this app. I had the same impression as you but as I worked >> with it more I began to see that it really is not as labor intensive as I >> thought. I don't think that the online demo is as effective as it could >> have been. >> >> First off you have to turn the Braille cell on its side. Don't think of it >> as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6; rather, 1, 4; 2, 5; 3, 6. You need to tell the app what >> you want to do with all three of those rows for each letter. >> A one-finger tap in a row says you want one dot; two fingers says two dots >> in that row and a three-finger tap says no dots in that row. So the way he >> describes A initially is: >> 1 one-finger tap for the top row >> One three-finger tap for the second row >> One three-finger tap for the third. >> >> But all you really need to do is the one one-finger tap and then flick one >> finger to the right. This gesture tells Type-In-Braille that you are done >> with that character. This speeds you up considerably. >> B is two one-finger taps followed by a one-finger right flick. >> C is a two-finger tap, just like a Braille c, followed by the right flick. >> >> It takes some practice; K, for instance, is tricky. But I also like the way >> I can edit in it, going back and forth, one letter or word at a time. It >> tells me what I am deleting, unlike VO on the phone keypad. >> >> Type-InBraille is meant only for typing text which is then selected and >> copied into something else, like an e-mail or Facebook. You cannot do e-mail >> addresses or type in search boxes. >> >> >> I am so far finding this faster than typing on the keypad on the phone. >> >> Sorry for this long explanation; HTH. >> >> Sandy >> >> C is tapping two fingers at the same time for the top row (just like a C) >> followed by a one-finger flick right. From: viphone@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner >> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 4:57 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: typing on the phone >> >> I'd like to hear from people who are using this app. I was intrigued when I >> read the description, but after listening to the demo,my initial impression >> is that it's a rather labor-intensive way of inputting text. >> >> Anyone have any real-world feedback to share? >> >> Kimber >> >> On 5/29/12, EWTEch Accessibility wrote: >>> Hi everybody, >>> >>> we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the >>> developers of TypeInBraille app. >>> We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider >>> it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. >>> >>> For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: >>> http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille >>> >>> Thank you >>> >>> >>> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers >>> >>> wrote: >>> Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though, I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when I've more time. Jeremiah On 5/21/12, Rob Harris wrote: > Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then > we have > to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain > amount even > when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift, return, > More numbers/letter/other, etc. > > But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting > deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate > thumb hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa. > - Original Message - > From: "Jeremiah Rogers" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM > Subject
Re: is it normal
Hi Neil, the twelve-second holding down of HOME and POWER is a forced reboot, rather like pressing the REBOOT button on a PC. If system corruption could occur on an iPhone using the other method (which as I've said I'm skeptical about), then it most certainly could occur with the reboot method as well, which does not shut anything down. Crashing your springboard is not "a forced collapsing" of the iOS platform; the springboard is one part of the iOS architecture. It's the part of iOS from which apps are launched. It does not store any critical user data. I think there are a fair few misconceptions about this topic on list. I don't mean to be argumentative but it is important that people understand them, and that if you have a theory (such as that data corruption could occur) that you make clear that it is just that--a theory. People who are stating this theory have relatively little technical data to back it up--case and point, the "forced collapsing of the iOS system" statement, which this is not. Warmly :) Grant On 5/31/12, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > Adrian, > > I agree very much with David's suggestions, the stuttering of Voice Over is > a classic symptom of an over full App Switcher and / or a handset which is > rarely power cycled. > > My strong recommendation for all iOS users, is to empty their App Switcher > daily and perform a power cycle immediately there after. > > This has kept my iPhone and iPad running smoothly ever since the first > stuttering symptoms appeared. > > In addition, as a system admin I also hold to David's assertion that there > is a possible chance of corruption by performing the forced collapsing of > the iOS platform resulting from the 5 successive presses of the power key. > > The iOS device at this time is not expecting this crash and as a result > maybe accessing a key string of code, or a significant part of your user > data. If this happened at the exact moment you performed the 5 successive > presses of the power key, it is conceivable that it might corrupt data. > > The 12 second or however long it is, press of power and home at the same > time, is far more logical and sensible. As it is coded into the iOS as a > sort of… I want to reboot this device, prepare for it please and stop doing > anything critical notification to the device. > > > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple > iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > On 30 May 2012, at 23:17, adrian wrote: > >> is it normal for voice over to stutter a lot? every time i read using >> voice over i find it stutters a lot. does any one know of a way i can fix >> it? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
TypeInBraille [WAS "Re: typing on the phone"]
I thought the demo was very good actually. For example, he did go into the one finger swipe to the right to finish entering a character. I'd encourage anyone who's interested in this app to listen to the whole demo. You definitely learn more tips and techniques as he goes along. The one tiny point I found slightly confusing was that he mentioned tapping in the upper left to get the first dot on the first row, when typing an 'a' for example. I assume you just have to tap somewhere on the left hand side of the screen, i.e. it doesn't have to be in the upper part of the screen. On 30/05/12 20:38, Sandy Finley wrote: > Kim, I downloaded this app. I had the same impression as you but as I worked > with it more I began to see that it really is not as labor intensive as I > thought. I don't think that the online demo is as effective as it could > have been. > > First off you have to turn the Braille cell on its side. Don't think of it > as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6; rather, 1, 4; 2, 5; 3, 6. You need to tell the app what > you want to do with all three of those rows for each letter. > A one-finger tap in a row says you want one dot; two fingers says two dots > in that row and a three-finger tap says no dots in that row. So the way he > describes A initially is: > 1 one-finger tap for the top row > One three-finger tap for the second row > One three-finger tap for the third. > > But all you really need to do is the one one-finger tap and then flick one > finger to the right. This gesture tells Type-In-Braille that you are done > with that character. This speeds you up considerably. > B is two one-finger taps followed by a one-finger right flick. > C is a two-finger tap, just like a Braille c, followed by the right flick. > > It takes some practice; K, for instance, is tricky. But I also like the way > I can edit in it, going back and forth, one letter or word at a time. It > tells me what I am deleting, unlike VO on the phone keypad. > > Type-InBraille is meant only for typing text which is then selected and > copied into something else, like an e-mail or Facebook. You cannot do e-mail > addresses or type in search boxes. > > > I am so far finding this faster than typing on the keypad on the phone. > > Sorry for this long explanation; HTH. > > Sandy > > C is tapping two fingers at the same time for the top row (just like a C) > followed by a one-finger flick right. From: viphone@googlegroups.com > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 4:57 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > I'd like to hear from people who are using this app. I was intrigued when I > read the description, but after listening to the demo,my initial impression > is that it's a rather labor-intensive way of inputting text. > > Anyone have any real-world feedback to share? > > Kimber > > On 5/29/12, EWTEch Accessibility wrote: >> Hi everybody, >> >> we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the >> developers of TypeInBraille app. >> We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider >> it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. >> >> For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: >> http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille >> >> Thank you >> >> >> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers >> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you >>> described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well >>> at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately >>> though, I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often >>> now than I used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try >>> that when I've more time. >>> >>> Jeremiah >>> >>> >>> On 5/21/12, Rob Harris wrote: Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we >>> have to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount >>> even when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift, >>> return, More numbers/letter/other, etc. But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate thumb hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa. - Original Message - From: "Jeremiah Rogers" To: Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM Subject: Re: typing on the phone One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words, etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only thing that seemed odd. I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has
Re: is it normal
Grant, Perhaps terminology aside not, but, one thing for sure, simply opting to do the 5 consecutive presses, which is an unofficial, not supported and not recommended, let alone unrecognised procedure, offers no warning to the iOS platform that its coming. Whereas the 12 second method, which is supported, recognised, and accepted by Apple, and indeed supposed to be used. This will have been anticipate by Apple Engineers and as such, when the key cominvation is pressed, the iOS will in the bak ground stop doing anything which is sensitive to data integrity. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 31 May 2012, at 08:28, Grant Hardy wrote: > Hi Neil, the twelve-second holding down of HOME and POWER is a forced > reboot, rather like pressing the REBOOT button on a PC. If system > corruption could occur on an iPhone using the other method (which as > I've said I'm skeptical about), then it most certainly could occur > with the reboot method as well, which does not shut anything down. > > Crashing your springboard is not "a forced collapsing" of the iOS > platform; the springboard is one part of the iOS architecture. It's > the part of iOS from which apps are launched. It does not store any > critical user data. > > I think there are a fair few misconceptions about this topic on list. > I don't mean to be argumentative but it is important that people > understand them, and that if you have a theory (such as that data > corruption could occur) that you make clear that it is just that--a > theory. People who are stating this theory have relatively little > technical data to back it up--case and point, the "forced collapsing > of the iOS system" statement, which this is not. > > Warmly :) > > Grant > > > > On 5/31/12, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: >> Adrian, >> >> I agree very much with David's suggestions, the stuttering of Voice Over is >> a classic symptom of an over full App Switcher and / or a handset which is >> rarely power cycled. >> >> My strong recommendation for all iOS users, is to empty their App Switcher >> daily and perform a power cycle immediately there after. >> >> This has kept my iPhone and iPad running smoothly ever since the first >> stuttering symptoms appeared. >> >> In addition, as a system admin I also hold to David's assertion that there >> is a possible chance of corruption by performing the forced collapsing of >> the iOS platform resulting from the 5 successive presses of the power key. >> >> The iOS device at this time is not expecting this crash and as a result >> maybe accessing a key string of code, or a significant part of your user >> data. If this happened at the exact moment you performed the 5 successive >> presses of the power key, it is conceivable that it might corrupt data. >> >> The 12 second or however long it is, press of power and home at the same >> time, is far more logical and sensible. As it is coded into the iOS as a >> sort of… I want to reboot this device, prepare for it please and stop doing >> anything critical notification to the device. >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Neil Barnfather >> >> Talks List Administrator >> Twitter @neilbarnfather >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple >> iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> >> URL: - www.talknav.com >> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >> >> On 30 May 2012, at 23:17, adrian wrote: >> >>> is it normal for voice over to stutter a lot? every time i read using >>> voice over i find it stutters a lot. does any one know of a way i can fix >>> it? >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message becaus
Re: is it normal
Grant, In addition, whilst it may not be a forced collapsing of the entire iOS platform, it is never the less, a forced collapsing, or whatever word you wish to insert, meaning to push or force the software into doing something it either was not intended to do, or wishes to do at that time etc. You are correct that this is a theory, I never stated it as fact, simply that pushing software to do something that it is not supposed to do is never a good idea and can have unexpected consequences. If this spring board feature stops working, is this also the area where currently active apps are held, i.e. linked to the App Switcher? or once an app is launched is it passed to the app switcher, which, hopefully is in dependant? if they are one in the same, and you have an app open with data in it, and you collapse the spring board, then surely this might lead to data instability? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 31 May 2012, at 08:28, Grant Hardy wrote: > Hi Neil, the twelve-second holding down of HOME and POWER is a forced > reboot, rather like pressing the REBOOT button on a PC. If system > corruption could occur on an iPhone using the other method (which as > I've said I'm skeptical about), then it most certainly could occur > with the reboot method as well, which does not shut anything down. > > Crashing your springboard is not "a forced collapsing" of the iOS > platform; the springboard is one part of the iOS architecture. It's > the part of iOS from which apps are launched. It does not store any > critical user data. > > I think there are a fair few misconceptions about this topic on list. > I don't mean to be argumentative but it is important that people > understand them, and that if you have a theory (such as that data > corruption could occur) that you make clear that it is just that--a > theory. People who are stating this theory have relatively little > technical data to back it up--case and point, the "forced collapsing > of the iOS system" statement, which this is not. > > Warmly :) > > Grant > > > > On 5/31/12, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: >> Adrian, >> >> I agree very much with David's suggestions, the stuttering of Voice Over is >> a classic symptom of an over full App Switcher and / or a handset which is >> rarely power cycled. >> >> My strong recommendation for all iOS users, is to empty their App Switcher >> daily and perform a power cycle immediately there after. >> >> This has kept my iPhone and iPad running smoothly ever since the first >> stuttering symptoms appeared. >> >> In addition, as a system admin I also hold to David's assertion that there >> is a possible chance of corruption by performing the forced collapsing of >> the iOS platform resulting from the 5 successive presses of the power key. >> >> The iOS device at this time is not expecting this crash and as a result >> maybe accessing a key string of code, or a significant part of your user >> data. If this happened at the exact moment you performed the 5 successive >> presses of the power key, it is conceivable that it might corrupt data. >> >> The 12 second or however long it is, press of power and home at the same >> time, is far more logical and sensible. As it is coded into the iOS as a >> sort of… I want to reboot this device, prepare for it please and stop doing >> anything critical notification to the device. >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Neil Barnfather >> >> Talks List Administrator >> Twitter @neilbarnfather >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple >> iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> >> URL: - www.talknav.com >> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >> >> On 30 May 2012, at 23:17, adrian wrote: >> >>> is it normal for voice over to stutter a lot? every time i read using >>> voice over i find it stutters a lot. does any one know of a way i can fix >>> it? >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.c
Re: typing on the phone
On the contrary, your explanation is really good and has made me curious enough to go and grab the app to take it for a spin. My touch typing on the phone is improving steadily, but sometimes I wish I were faster and, yeah, more accurate. If this app can do that for me then it will have won me over. Thanks Sandy. Kimber On 5/30/12, Sandy Finley wrote: > Kim, I downloaded this app. I had the same impression as you but as I > worked > with it more I began to see that it really is not as labor intensive as I > thought. I don't think that the online demo is as effective as it could > have been. > > First off you have to turn the Braille cell on its side. Don't think of it > as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6; rather, 1, 4; 2, 5; 3, 6. You need to tell the app > what > you want to do with all three of those rows for each letter. > A one-finger tap in a row says you want one dot; two fingers says two dots > in that row and a three-finger tap says no dots in that row. So the way he > describes A initially is: > 1 one-finger tap for the top row > One three-finger tap for the second row > One three-finger tap for the third. > > But all you really need to do is the one one-finger tap and then flick one > finger to the right. This gesture tells Type-In-Braille that you are done > with that character. This speeds you up considerably. > B is two one-finger taps followed by a one-finger right flick. > C is a two-finger tap, just like a Braille c, followed by the right flick. > > It takes some practice; K, for instance, is tricky. But I also like the > way > I can edit in it, going back and forth, one letter or word at a time. It > tells me what I am deleting, unlike VO on the phone keypad. > > Type-InBraille is meant only for typing text which is then selected and > copied into something else, like an e-mail or Facebook. You cannot do > e-mail > addresses or type in search boxes. > > > I am so far finding this faster than typing on the keypad on the phone. > > Sorry for this long explanation; HTH. > > Sandy > > C is tapping two fingers at the same time for the top row (just like a C) > followed by a one-finger flick right. From: viphone@googlegroups.com > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 4:57 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > I'd like to hear from people who are using this app. I was intrigued when I > read the description, but after listening to the demo,my initial impression > is that it's a rather labor-intensive way of inputting text. > > Anyone have any real-world feedback to share? > > Kimber > > On 5/29/12, EWTEch Accessibility wrote: >> Hi everybody, >> >> we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the >> developers of TypeInBraille app. >> We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider >> it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. >> >> For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: >> http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille >> >> Thank you >> >> >> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers >> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you >>> described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well >>> at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately >>> though, I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often >>> now than I used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try >>> that when I've more time. >>> >>> Jeremiah >>> >>> >>> On 5/21/12, Rob Harris wrote: >>> > Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then >>> > we >>> have >>> > to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain >>> > amount >>> even >>> > when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift, >>> return, >>> > More numbers/letter/other, etc. >>> > >>> > But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting >>> > deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate >>> > thumb hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa. >>> > - Original Message - >>> > From: "Jeremiah Rogers" >>> > To: >>> > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM >>> > Subject: Re: typing on the phone >>> > >>> > >>> > One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the >>> > duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain >>> > words, etc where you just know you're tapper will become the >>> > hunter? Just having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, >>> > that's the only thing that seemed odd. >>> > >>> > I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved >>> > the touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten >>> > less responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being >>> > when I got my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just >>> > be my expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more >>> > accurately, when I got that device than
Re: A question about the public radio app
Yeah, the two finger double tap is working great. Thanks for the tip. I'm a huge fan of public radio and have downloaded several apps. K On 5/30/12, Tom Lange wrote: > Hi, > Yeah, if PRI behaves itself and is consistent with other similar apps, the > two-finger double-tap should stop playback and doing it again will restart > playback. > > Tom > > - Original Message - > From: "Kimberly" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 6:02 AM > Subject: Re: A question about the public radio app > > >>I didn't but I will. Thanks. >> >> Sent from Kimber's iPhone >> >> On May 30, 2012, at 8:53 AM, "Tara Prakash" >> wrote: >> >>> Did you try two finger double tap? >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Kimber Gardner" >>> >>> To: "viphone" >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:39 AM >>> Subject: A question about the public radio app >>> >>> Hi All, Last night I downloaded and installed the PRI (public radio international) app. One of the things you can do with this app is listen to podcasts of various shows like This American Life. My question is this. once I started the podcast I couldn't figure out how to pause/stop it. What I ended up doing was selecting the "listen live" button at the bottom of the screen which finally stopped the audio of the podcast. I know there must be a better way. Any help will be appreciated. Kimber -- Kimberly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > -- Kimberly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: typing on the phone
Sandy did a perfect explanation of how TypeInBraille works and so I have to thank her very much. Although on the help section of the website you can find everything you need to learn to use the app (you can find it here: http://goo.gl/2kQ0V). You can also read the help directly from the app accessing the help section from the menu. For Jane: you can fix a mistake in a sentence back accessing the rotor of the app (using the rotor gesture) and switching into "navigation mode" to go back into the sentences and edit everything you need. On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Kimber Gardner wrote: > On the contrary, your explanation is really good and has made me > curious enough to go and grab the app to take it for a spin. > > My touch typing on the phone is improving steadily, but sometimes I > wish I were faster and, yeah, more accurate. If this app can do that > for me then it will have won me over. > > Thanks Sandy. > > Kimber > > On 5/30/12, Sandy Finley wrote: > > Kim, I downloaded this app. I had the same impression as you but as I > > worked > > with it more I began to see that it really is not as labor intensive as I > > thought. I don't think that the online demo is as effective as it could > > have been. > > > > First off you have to turn the Braille cell on its side. Don't think of > it > > as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6; rather, 1, 4; 2, 5; 3, 6. You need to tell the app > > what > > you want to do with all three of those rows for each letter. > > A one-finger tap in a row says you want one dot; two fingers says two > dots > > in that row and a three-finger tap says no dots in that row. So the way > he > > describes A initially is: > > 1 one-finger tap for the top row > > One three-finger tap for the second row > > One three-finger tap for the third. > > > > But all you really need to do is the one one-finger tap and then flick > one > > finger to the right. This gesture tells Type-In-Braille that you are done > > with that character. This speeds you up considerably. > > B is two one-finger taps followed by a one-finger right flick. > > C is a two-finger tap, just like a Braille c, followed by the right > flick. > > > > It takes some practice; K, for instance, is tricky. But I also like the > > way > > I can edit in it, going back and forth, one letter or word at a time. It > > tells me what I am deleting, unlike VO on the phone keypad. > > > > Type-InBraille is meant only for typing text which is then selected and > > copied into something else, like an e-mail or Facebook. You cannot do > > e-mail > > addresses or type in search boxes. > > > > > > I am so far finding this faster than typing on the keypad on the phone. > > > > Sorry for this long explanation; HTH. > > > > Sandy > > > > C is tapping two fingers at the same time for the top row (just like a C) > > followed by a one-finger flick right. From: viphone@googlegroups.com > > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner > > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 4:57 AM > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > > > I'd like to hear from people who are using this app. I was intrigued > when I > > read the description, but after listening to the demo,my initial > impression > > is that it's a rather labor-intensive way of inputting text. > > > > Anyone have any real-world feedback to share? > > > > Kimber > > > > On 5/29/12, EWTEch Accessibility wrote: > >> Hi everybody, > >> > >> we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the > >> developers of TypeInBraille app. > >> We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider > >> it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. > >> > >> For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: > >> http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille > >> > >> Thank you > >> > >> > >> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers > >> >>> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you > >>> described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well > >>> at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately > >>> though, I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often > >>> now than I used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try > >>> that when I've more time. > >>> > >>> Jeremiah > >>> > >>> > >>> On 5/21/12, Rob Harris wrote: > >>> > Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then > >>> > we > >>> have > >>> > to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain > >>> > amount > >>> even > >>> > when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift, > >>> return, > >>> > More numbers/letter/other, etc. > >>> > > >>> > But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting > >>> > deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate > >>> > thumb hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa. > >>> > - Original Message - > >>> > From: "Jeremiah Rogers" > >>>
Re: typing on the phone
I want to underline the previous post by Cristopher that is very useful: * * *"I'd suggest listening to the demo on the TypeInBraille web site at http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille I haven't downloaded the app myself, but just from listening to the demo, you would move back by using the TypeInBraille roter to switch to navigation mode mode and then use two finger swipes to the left to move back by word or one finger swipes to the left to move back by character. To delete, move the roter to the select mode and then use the same gestures to select the text instead of just move over it. Now use the one finger swipe down to bring up the menu and double tap on the cut option. To insert text, turn the roter back to the insert mode and type away as normally."* On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:29 AM, EWTEch Accessibility < accessibil...@ew-tech.it> wrote: > Sandy did a perfect explanation of how TypeInBraille works and so I have > to thank her very much. > Although on the help section of the website you can find everything you > need to learn to use the app (you can find it here: http://goo.gl/2kQ0V). > You can also read the help directly from the app accessing the help section > from the menu. > > For Jane: you can fix a mistake in a sentence back accessing the rotor of > the app (using the rotor gesture) and switching into "navigation mode" to > go back into the sentences and edit everything you need. > > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Kimber Gardner < > kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On the contrary, your explanation is really good and has made me >> curious enough to go and grab the app to take it for a spin. >> >> My touch typing on the phone is improving steadily, but sometimes I >> wish I were faster and, yeah, more accurate. If this app can do that >> for me then it will have won me over. >> >> Thanks Sandy. >> >> Kimber >> >> On 5/30/12, Sandy Finley wrote: >> > Kim, I downloaded this app. I had the same impression as you but as I >> > worked >> > with it more I began to see that it really is not as labor intensive as >> I >> > thought. I don't think that the online demo is as effective as it could >> > have been. >> > >> > First off you have to turn the Braille cell on its side. Don't think of >> it >> > as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6; rather, 1, 4; 2, 5; 3, 6. You need to tell the app >> > what >> > you want to do with all three of those rows for each letter. >> > A one-finger tap in a row says you want one dot; two fingers says two >> dots >> > in that row and a three-finger tap says no dots in that row. So the >> way he >> > describes A initially is: >> > 1 one-finger tap for the top row >> > One three-finger tap for the second row >> > One three-finger tap for the third. >> > >> > But all you really need to do is the one one-finger tap and then flick >> one >> > finger to the right. This gesture tells Type-In-Braille that you are >> done >> > with that character. This speeds you up considerably. >> > B is two one-finger taps followed by a one-finger right flick. >> > C is a two-finger tap, just like a Braille c, followed by the right >> flick. >> > >> > It takes some practice; K, for instance, is tricky. But I also like the >> > way >> > I can edit in it, going back and forth, one letter or word at a time. It >> > tells me what I am deleting, unlike VO on the phone keypad. >> > >> > Type-InBraille is meant only for typing text which is then selected and >> > copied into something else, like an e-mail or Facebook. You cannot do >> > e-mail >> > addresses or type in search boxes. >> > >> > >> > I am so far finding this faster than typing on the keypad on the phone. >> > >> > Sorry for this long explanation; HTH. >> > >> > Sandy >> > >> > C is tapping two fingers at the same time for the top row (just like a >> C) >> > followed by a one-finger flick right. From: viphone@googlegroups.com >> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner >> > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 4:57 AM >> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> > Subject: Re: typing on the phone >> > >> > I'd like to hear from people who are using this app. I was intrigued >> when I >> > read the description, but after listening to the demo,my initial >> impression >> > is that it's a rather labor-intensive way of inputting text. >> > >> > Anyone have any real-world feedback to share? >> > >> > Kimber >> > >> > On 5/29/12, EWTEch Accessibility wrote: >> >> Hi everybody, >> >> >> >> we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the >> >> developers of TypeInBraille app. >> >> We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider >> >> it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. >> >> >> >> For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: >> >> http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille >> >> >> >> Thank you >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers >> >> > >>> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of to
Re: typing on the phone
I know this is not a good analogy, but you know how fast MorseCode tappers managed? this is certainly no worse than that, but has all the scope to be as good. I tend to tap my notes in the TIB, then take the text to the app I need it in. It works, this is what most do I reckon. RobH. - Original Message - From: "Sandy Finley" To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:38 AM Subject: RE: typing on the phone Kim, I downloaded this app. I had the same impression as you but as I worked with it more I began to see that it really is not as labor intensive as I thought. I don't think that the online demo is as effective as it could have been. First off you have to turn the Braille cell on its side. Don't think of it as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6; rather, 1, 4; 2, 5; 3, 6. You need to tell the app what you want to do with all three of those rows for each letter. A one-finger tap in a row says you want one dot; two fingers says two dots in that row and a three-finger tap says no dots in that row. So the way he describes A initially is: 1 one-finger tap for the top row One three-finger tap for the second row One three-finger tap for the third. But all you really need to do is the one one-finger tap and then flick one finger to the right. This gesture tells Type-In-Braille that you are done with that character. This speeds you up considerably. B is two one-finger taps followed by a one-finger right flick. C is a two-finger tap, just like a Braille c, followed by the right flick. It takes some practice; K, for instance, is tricky. But I also like the way I can edit in it, going back and forth, one letter or word at a time. It tells me what I am deleting, unlike VO on the phone keypad. Type-InBraille is meant only for typing text which is then selected and copied into something else, like an e-mail or Facebook. You cannot do e-mail addresses or type in search boxes. I am so far finding this faster than typing on the keypad on the phone. Sorry for this long explanation; HTH. Sandy C is tapping two fingers at the same time for the top row (just like a C) followed by a one-finger flick right. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 4:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: typing on the phone I'd like to hear from people who are using this app. I was intrigued when I read the description, but after listening to the demo,my initial impression is that it's a rather labor-intensive way of inputting text. Anyone have any real-world feedback to share? Kimber On 5/29/12, EWTEch Accessibility wrote: > Hi everybody, > > we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the > developers of TypeInBraille app. > We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider > it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. > > For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: > http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille > > Thank you > > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers > > wrote: > >> Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you >> described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well >> at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately >> though, I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often >> now than I used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try >> that when I've more time. >> >> Jeremiah >> >> >> On 5/21/12, Rob Harris wrote: >> > Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then >> > we >> have >> > to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain >> > amount >> even >> > when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift, >> return, >> > More numbers/letter/other, etc. >> > >> > But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting >> > deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate >> > thumb hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa. >> > - Original Message - >> > From: "Jeremiah Rogers" >> > To: >> > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM >> > Subject: Re: typing on the phone >> > >> > >> > One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the >> > duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain >> > words, etc where you just know you're tapper will become the >> > hunter? Just having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, >> > that's the only thing that seemed odd. >> > >> > I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved >> > the touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten >> > less responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being >> > when I got my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just >> > be my expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more >> > accurately, when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this >> > thread, I'm trying out the split tap method and am quite intrig
Re: typing on the phone
Still for Jane: the app is already available in English, French, Italian, Portuguese and Spanish both for the descriptions and the different braille encoding. You can have the language automatically changed simply changing the system language. We are also managing to get it translated also in other languages, but we need the help of you users to make it possible. We've done the same for the languages that are already available. On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Jane wrote: > It would be nice if here was a way to choose between grade 1 and 2 input. > And how about other languages, like Spanish, French, Italian--gooness, > there are many you can add. > > Also, I wonder if it's possible to make it so we can just tap our fingers > all at once on the screen for each letter--so instead of say, double-tap, > then a right single-tap for the letter d, you can just put down the three > fingers where they would naturally go on the keyboard. > > Thanks for listening to and considering the iput. I realize you can't do > miracles. There are probably many things you are being asked to consider > and add to TypeInBraille. Picking and choosing what gets released in each > update is going to be tricky. > > Jane > > > > > On May 30, 2012, at 3:45 AM, EWTEch Accessibility wrote: > > We are taking in consideration every suggestion we are receiving from you > for the next update. > Thank you so much for your appreciation and you ideas and suggestions. > It's very important for us to improve our work. > > > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Tracy wrote: > >> ** >> I agree with Carol and Chris. >> >> Support for other braille systems would be great, and it would be nice to >> be able to use contractions. >> >> I've also been a braillist for many years, and I love the app, but >> because I'm not used to the way the punctuation is formed, it puts me off a >> little. >> >> Thank you for the great work you are doing. >> >> - Original Message - >> *From:* Carol Pearson >> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com >> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:05 AM >> *Subject:* Re: typing on the phone >> >> ;Hithere >> >> I find it a good and useful app though don't get around to using it too >> often. I do find the punctuation doesn't come naturally and that's one >> main reason why I don't use it more. >> >> Having been a Braillist for getting on for 60 years, it's also hard to >> think in a different concept for writing and I'd therefore still prefer to >> write with two hands in a normal way. >> >> All this said, remember I do like the app very much and commend you on >> your efforts to date. >> >> -- >> Carol P >> Original Message >> From: EWTEch Accessibility >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:37 AM >> Subject: Re: typing on the phone >> >> > Hi everybody, >> > >> > >> > we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, >> > the developers of TypeInBraille app. >> > We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if >> > you consider it as a good solution to type on your mobile >> > device. >> > >> > >> > For those who want to get more information about >> > TypeInBraille: >> > http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille >> > >> > >> > Thank you >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers >> > wrote: >> > >> > Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just >> > as you >> > described - I liked not having to hunt for te next >> > letter. I did well >> > at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. >> > Unfortunately though, >> > I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more >> > often now than I >> > used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try >> > that when >> > I've more time. >> > >> > Jeremiah >> > >> > >> > >> > On 5/21/12, Rob Harris wrote: >> > > Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the >> > > screen, then we have to swap or change angle >> > > dramatically, and have to do a certain amount even when >> > > touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - >> > > shift, return, More numbers/letter/other, etc. >> > > >> > > But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an >> > > interesting deviation in which case covering half the >> > > kb each, the appropriate thumb hunts and the other >> > > taps, and vicerVersa. - Original Message - >> > > From: "Jeremiah Rogers" >> > > To: >> > > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM >> > > Subject: Re: typing on the phone >> > > >> > > >> > > One question for you split tappers, any tips for when >> > > to switch the >> > > duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, >> > > certain words, >> > > etc where you just know you're tapper will become the >> > > hunter? Just >> > > having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, >> > > that's the only >> > > thing that seemed odd. >> > > >> > > I've learned much from this typing discussion. >> > > Initially, I loved the >> > > touch typing method, but it seems to me th
Re: typing on the phone
It has its own rotor, though this is something I would like them to fix. But the TIB (TypeInBraille) rotor has 3 options:- insert, navigate, select. Just twist the rotor to the one you need. Hope you get the right rotor or VO will send you up the wall saying characters, words, headers, language,... and so on. So bear with it, the modes are good when you get at them. Remember to twist it back to insert to write some more, including the corrections. - Original Message - From: "Jane" To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:56 AM Subject: Re: typing on the phone How do you edit? I have managed to delete mistakes as i catch them, but what if I made a mistake a sentence back and want to fix it? How do I go back word by word or character by character, and then how do I fix it? Jane On May 30, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Sandy Finley wrote: > Kim, I downloaded this app. I had the same impression as you but as I > worked > with it more I began to see that it really is not as labor intensive as I > thought. I don't think that the online demo is as effective as it could > have been. > > First off you have to turn the Braille cell on its side. Don't think of it > as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6; rather, 1, 4; 2, 5; 3, 6. You need to tell the app > what > you want to do with all three of those rows for each letter. > A one-finger tap in a row says you want one dot; two fingers says two dots > in that row and a three-finger tap says no dots in that row. So the way > he > describes A initially is: > 1 one-finger tap for the top row > One three-finger tap for the second row > One three-finger tap for the third. > > But all you really need to do is the one one-finger tap and then flick one > finger to the right. This gesture tells Type-In-Braille that you are done > with that character. This speeds you up considerably. > B is two one-finger taps followed by a one-finger right flick. > C is a two-finger tap, just like a Braille c, followed by the right flick. > > It takes some practice; K, for instance, is tricky. But I also like the > way > I can edit in it, going back and forth, one letter or word at a time. It > tells me what I am deleting, unlike VO on the phone keypad. > > Type-InBraille is meant only for typing text which is then selected and > copied into something else, like an e-mail or Facebook. You cannot do > e-mail > addresses or type in search boxes. > > > I am so far finding this faster than typing on the keypad on the phone. > > Sorry for this long explanation; HTH. > > Sandy > > C is tapping two fingers at the same time for the top row (just like a C) > followed by a one-finger flick right. From: viphone@googlegroups.com > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 4:57 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > I'd like to hear from people who are using this app. I was intrigued when > I > read the description, but after listening to the demo,my initial > impression > is that it's a rather labor-intensive way of inputting text. > > Anyone have any real-world feedback to share? > > Kimber > > On 5/29/12, EWTEch Accessibility wrote: >> Hi everybody, >> >> we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the >> developers of TypeInBraille app. >> We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider >> it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. >> >> For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: >> http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille >> >> Thank you >> >> >> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers >> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you >>> described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well >>> at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately >>> though, I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often >>> now than I used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try >>> that when I've more time. >>> >>> Jeremiah >>> >>> >>> On 5/21/12, Rob Harris wrote: Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we >>> have to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount >>> even when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift, >>> return, More numbers/letter/other, etc. But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate thumb hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa. - Original Message - From: "Jeremiah Rogers" To: Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM Subject: Re: typing on the phone One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words, etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just having sent a
Re: papa sangre brag for useless but cool achievement :)
Having just bought this game, and not made it past evel six, I'm impressed! On 5/30/12, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: > HI all, > > Just curious if anyone has tried this in Papa sangre. > I managed to save the siren in level 23 I think (the one with the ice lake). > Did not get any credit from Papa or anyone in the game but was fun to make > it with her singing in my ears. > > Thought I'd share! > > Smile, > > Ioana > > Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online > stores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > -- Kimberly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: typing on the phone
It's a very good analogy Rob. We think about it as a code. Maybe it's a little tricky for long time braille users that have to practice a little bit to get used to it, especially for splitting braille in 3 rows. But after a few days of practice we tested that it is very simple to use (also one of the developer is a blind user so we always count on his sensations and feelings). It is also perfect for visually impaired people who don't know braille yet because it's very different from learning to tactually read braille.Then TypeInBraille also allows you to write using a single hand, with the iphone in your pocket and independently from the position of the mobile device. On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Rob Harris wrote: > I know this is not a good analogy, but you know how fast MorseCode > tappers > managed? this is certainly no worse than that, but has all the scope to be > as good. I tend to tap my notes in the TIB, then take the text to the app I > need it in. > > It works, this is what most do I reckon. > > RobH. > - Original Message - > From: "Sandy Finley" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:38 AM > Subject: RE: typing on the phone > > > Kim, I downloaded this app. I had the same impression as you but as I > worked > with it more I began to see that it really is not as labor intensive as I > thought. I don't think that the online demo is as effective as it could > have been. > > First off you have to turn the Braille cell on its side. Don't think of it > as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6; rather, 1, 4; 2, 5; 3, 6. You need to tell the app > what > you want to do with all three of those rows for each letter. > A one-finger tap in a row says you want one dot; two fingers says two dots > in that row and a three-finger tap says no dots in that row. So the way he > describes A initially is: > 1 one-finger tap for the top row > One three-finger tap for the second row > One three-finger tap for the third. > > But all you really need to do is the one one-finger tap and then flick one > finger to the right. This gesture tells Type-In-Braille that you are done > with that character. This speeds you up considerably. > B is two one-finger taps followed by a one-finger right flick. > C is a two-finger tap, just like a Braille c, followed by the right flick. > > It takes some practice; K, for instance, is tricky. But I also like the > way > I can edit in it, going back and forth, one letter or word at a time. It > tells me what I am deleting, unlike VO on the phone keypad. > > Type-InBraille is meant only for typing text which is then selected and > copied into something else, like an e-mail or Facebook. You cannot do > e-mail > addresses or type in search boxes. > > > I am so far finding this faster than typing on the keypad on the phone. > > Sorry for this long explanation; HTH. > > Sandy > > C is tapping two fingers at the same time for the top row (just like a C) > followed by a one-finger flick right. From: viphone@googlegroups.com > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 4:57 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > I'd like to hear from people who are using this app. I was intrigued when I > read the description, but after listening to the demo,my initial impression > is that it's a rather labor-intensive way of inputting text. > > Anyone have any real-world feedback to share? > > Kimber > > On 5/29/12, EWTEch Accessibility wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > > > we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the > > developers of TypeInBraille app. > > We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider > > it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. > > > > For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: > > http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille > > > > Thank you > > > > > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers > > >> wrote: > > > >> Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you > >> described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well > >> at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately > >> though, I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often > >> now than I used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try > >> that when I've more time. > >> > >> Jeremiah > >> > >> > >> On 5/21/12, Rob Harris wrote: > >> > Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then > >> > we > >> have > >> > to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain > >> > amount > >> even > >> > when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift, > >> return, > >> > More numbers/letter/other, etc. > >> > > >> > But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting > >> > deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate > >> > thumb hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa. > >> > - Original Message - > >> >
Re: typing on the phone
We are thinking to manage with the rotor system as Rob (and also other users) suggest, but at this time, a little trick to succeed in using the right rotor is to tap one time on the screen once you open the app, so that the iPhone can recognize that you are into TypeInBraille and let you switch the three different modes using the right rotor. Instead you can't mistake the rotor if you still writing into TypeInBraille.. On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Rob Harris wrote: > It has its own rotor, though this is something I would like them to fix. > But the TIB (TypeInBraille) rotor has 3 options:- insert, navigate, select. > Just twist the rotor to the one you need. Hope you get the right rotor or > VO will send you up the wall saying characters, words, headers, > language,... > and so on. So bear with it, the modes are good when you get at them. > Remember to twist it back to insert to write some more, including the > corrections. > - Original Message - > From: "Jane" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:56 AM > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > > How do you edit? I have managed to delete mistakes as i catch them, but > what > if I made a mistake a sentence back and want to fix it? How do I go back > word by word or character by character, and then how do I fix it? > > Jane > > > > > On May 30, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Sandy Finley wrote: > > > Kim, I downloaded this app. I had the same impression as you but as I > > worked > > with it more I began to see that it really is not as labor intensive as I > > thought. I don't think that the online demo is as effective as it could > > have been. > > > > First off you have to turn the Braille cell on its side. Don't think of > it > > as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6; rather, 1, 4; 2, 5; 3, 6. You need to tell the app > > what > > you want to do with all three of those rows for each letter. > > A one-finger tap in a row says you want one dot; two fingers says two > dots > > in that row and a three-finger tap says no dots in that row. So the way > > he > > describes A initially is: > > 1 one-finger tap for the top row > > One three-finger tap for the second row > > One three-finger tap for the third. > > > > But all you really need to do is the one one-finger tap and then flick > one > > finger to the right. This gesture tells Type-In-Braille that you are done > > with that character. This speeds you up considerably. > > B is two one-finger taps followed by a one-finger right flick. > > C is a two-finger tap, just like a Braille c, followed by the right > flick. > > > > It takes some practice; K, for instance, is tricky. But I also like the > > way > > I can edit in it, going back and forth, one letter or word at a time. It > > tells me what I am deleting, unlike VO on the phone keypad. > > > > Type-InBraille is meant only for typing text which is then selected and > > copied into something else, like an e-mail or Facebook. You cannot do > > e-mail > > addresses or type in search boxes. > > > > > > I am so far finding this faster than typing on the keypad on the phone. > > > > Sorry for this long explanation; HTH. > > > > Sandy > > > > C is tapping two fingers at the same time for the top row (just like a C) > > followed by a one-finger flick right. From: viphone@googlegroups.com > > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner > > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 4:57 AM > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > > > I'd like to hear from people who are using this app. I was intrigued when > > I > > read the description, but after listening to the demo,my initial > > impression > > is that it's a rather labor-intensive way of inputting text. > > > > Anyone have any real-world feedback to share? > > > > Kimber > > > > On 5/29/12, EWTEch Accessibility wrote: > >> Hi everybody, > >> > >> we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the > >> developers of TypeInBraille app. > >> We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider > >> it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. > >> > >> For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: > >> http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille > >> > >> Thank you > >> > >> > >> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers > >> >>> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you > >>> described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well > >>> at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately > >>> though, I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often > >>> now than I used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try > >>> that when I've more time. > >>> > >>> Jeremiah > >>> > >>> > >>> On 5/21/12, Rob Harris wrote: > Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then > we > >>> have > to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain > amount > >>> even > when touch typ
Re: itunes alternatikve
I ahve a hardware gismo here, I need to find details so I can be specific what it is. essentially, it is a card reader, so you can directly move or ocpy photos from a camera to your iPad for example. I reckon it might well be pad specific as it has to take power to run I suppose. But it has two card slots, SD, MSD and perhaps others via their respective caddy; but surprisesurprise, a standard usb port. So you can hook your camera, iPhone/iPod, and probably even a standard pen drive to it. Mrs has done tonso f pics and video to her pad with one, I'm still itching to line up a ton of mp3 music. It plugs straightinto the data socket on the endo f the Pad and seems to just work without app or anything. And it was quite hceap, around Ł5 in the UK. when I get a specific name, I'll post it. RobH. - Original Message - From: "Shane Christenson" To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:14 AM Subject: itunes alternatikve Hey folks. I'd like to be able to transfer info and other stuff between my IPhone 4 s and my pc. without using itunes. i'd like to avoid jail-breaking my phone, because i don't know what I might do if I did. i still need to be able to perform updates and so forth, and I have the apple care protection plan for the phone. if jail breaking the phone won't void any of this, I'd be willing to try it, but if it's best not to jail-break, I'd like some way of transferring stuff between phone and pc without itunes. Anyone's thoughts on this are most welcome. Shane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
TypeInBraille - Re: typing on the phone
Agreed in all particulars. - Original Message - From: "EWTEch Accessibility" To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:50 AM Subject: Re: typing on the phone It's a very good analogy Rob. We think about it as a code. Maybe it's a little tricky for long time braille users that have to practice a little bit to get used to it, especially for splitting braille in 3 rows. But after a few days of practice we tested that it is very simple to use (also one of the developer is a blind user so we always count on his sensations and feelings). It is also perfect for visually impaired people who don't know braille yet because it's very different from learning to tactually read braille.Then TypeInBraille also allows you to write using a single hand, with the iphone in your pocket and independently from the position of the mobile device. On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Rob Harris wrote: > I know this is not a good analogy, but you know how fast MorseCode > tappers > managed? this is certainly no worse than that, but has all the scope to > be > as good. I tend to tap my notes in the TIB, then take the text to the app > I > need it in. > > It works, this is what most do I reckon. > > RobH. > - Original Message - > From: "Sandy Finley" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:38 AM > Subject: RE: typing on the phone > > > Kim, I downloaded this app. I had the same impression as you but as I > worked > with it more I began to see that it really is not as labor intensive as I > thought. I don't think that the online demo is as effective as it could > have been. > > First off you have to turn the Braille cell on its side. Don't think of it > as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6; rather, 1, 4; 2, 5; 3, 6. You need to tell the app > what > you want to do with all three of those rows for each letter. > A one-finger tap in a row says you want one dot; two fingers says two dots > in that row and a three-finger tap says no dots in that row. So the way > he > describes A initially is: > 1 one-finger tap for the top row > One three-finger tap for the second row > One three-finger tap for the third. > > But all you really need to do is the one one-finger tap and then flick one > finger to the right. This gesture tells Type-In-Braille that you are done > with that character. This speeds you up considerably. > B is two one-finger taps followed by a one-finger right flick. > C is a two-finger tap, just like a Braille c, followed by the right flick. > > It takes some practice; K, for instance, is tricky. But I also like the > way > I can edit in it, going back and forth, one letter or word at a time. It > tells me what I am deleting, unlike VO on the phone keypad. > > Type-InBraille is meant only for typing text which is then selected and > copied into something else, like an e-mail or Facebook. You cannot do > e-mail > addresses or type in search boxes. > > > I am so far finding this faster than typing on the keypad on the phone. > > Sorry for this long explanation; HTH. > > Sandy > > C is tapping two fingers at the same time for the top row (just like a C) > followed by a one-finger flick right. From: viphone@googlegroups.com > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 4:57 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > I'd like to hear from people who are using this app. I was intrigued when > I > read the description, but after listening to the demo,my initial > impression > is that it's a rather labor-intensive way of inputting text. > > Anyone have any real-world feedback to share? > > Kimber > > On 5/29/12, EWTEch Accessibility wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > > > we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the > > developers of TypeInBraille app. > > We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider > > it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. > > > > For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: > > http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille > > > > Thank you > > > > > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers > > >> wrote: > > > >> Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you > >> described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well > >> at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately > >> though, I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often > >> now than I used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try > >> that when I've more time. > >> > >> Jeremiah > >> > >> > >> On 5/21/12, Rob Harris wrote: > >> > Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then > >> > we > >> have > >> > to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain > >> > amount > >> even > >> > when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift, > >> return, > >> > More numbers/letter/other, etc. > >> > > >> > But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an inter
RE: typing on the phone
I am not sure yet what I'd suggest as an alternative but I think that rotor is a problem. Wonder if it would be easier to make TIB default to Insert Mode when you open it and then put the other choices in the menu. It's a lot easier to flick up than do that rotor motion. Sandy From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of EWTEch Accessibility Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:55 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: typing on the phone We are thinking to manage with the rotor system as Rob (and also other users) suggest, but at this time, a little trick to succeed in using the right rotor is to tap one time on the screen once you open the app, so that the iPhone can recognize that you are into TypeInBraille and let you switch the three different modes using the right rotor. Instead you can't mistake the rotor if you still writing into TypeInBraille.. On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Rob Harris wrote: It has its own rotor, though this is something I would like them to fix. But the TIB (TypeInBraille) rotor has 3 options:- insert, navigate, select. Just twist the rotor to the one you need. Hope you get the right rotor or VO will send you up the wall saying characters, words, headers, language,... and so on. So bear with it, the modes are good when you get at them. Remember to twist it back to insert to write some more, including the corrections. - Original Message - From: "Jane" To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:56 AM Subject: Re: typing on the phone How do you edit? I have managed to delete mistakes as i catch them, but what if I made a mistake a sentence back and want to fix it? How do I go back word by word or character by character, and then how do I fix it? Jane On May 30, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Sandy Finley wrote: > Kim, I downloaded this app. I had the same impression as you but as I > worked > with it more I began to see that it really is not as labor intensive as I > thought. I don't think that the online demo is as effective as it could > have been. > > First off you have to turn the Braille cell on its side. Don't think of it > as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6; rather, 1, 4; 2, 5; 3, 6. You need to tell the app > what > you want to do with all three of those rows for each letter. > A one-finger tap in a row says you want one dot; two fingers says two dots > in that row and a three-finger tap says no dots in that row. So the way > he > describes A initially is: > 1 one-finger tap for the top row > One three-finger tap for the second row > One three-finger tap for the third. > > But all you really need to do is the one one-finger tap and then flick one > finger to the right. This gesture tells Type-In-Braille that you are done > with that character. This speeds you up considerably. > B is two one-finger taps followed by a one-finger right flick. > C is a two-finger tap, just like a Braille c, followed by the right flick. > > It takes some practice; K, for instance, is tricky. But I also like the > way > I can edit in it, going back and forth, one letter or word at a time. It > tells me what I am deleting, unlike VO on the phone keypad. > > Type-InBraille is meant only for typing text which is then selected and > copied into something else, like an e-mail or Facebook. You cannot do > e-mail > addresses or type in search boxes. > > > I am so far finding this faster than typing on the keypad on the phone. > > Sorry for this long explanation; HTH. > > Sandy > > C is tapping two fingers at the same time for the top row (just like a C) > followed by a one-finger flick right. From: viphone@googlegroups.com > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 4:57 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > I'd like to hear from people who are using this app. I was intrigued when > I > read the description, but after listening to the demo,my initial > impression > is that it's a rather labor-intensive way of inputting text. > > Anyone have any real-world feedback to share? > > Kimber > > On 5/29/12, EWTEch Accessibility wrote: >> Hi everybody, >> >> we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the >> developers of TypeInBraille app. >> We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider >> it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. >> >> For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: >> http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille >> >> Thank you >> >> >> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers >> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you >>> described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well >>> at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately >>> though, I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often >>> now than I used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try >>> that when I've more time. >>
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Hello Grant, My friend is some sort of developer. You can argue for crashing the springboard all you want saying it will not corrupt any code. My friend says there is a very slight chance that it could corrupt code. I prefer not to take that chance. I have corrupted code in a pocket pc which then required me to do a complete rebuild from my computer. As this takes time which I prefer not to spend in such fashion, I choose not to take the chance. An Apple support person is the one who told me that the home and power buttons simultaneously for 10 to 12 seconds reboots the phone and properly restores the driver stacks. From my timing of both restarts, the reboot takes longer for booting up than the power cycling for booting up. To be precise, the higher level support specialist told me to first turn the iPhone off then on, and once it has come fully on, do the reboot. Sorry, but I trust both of these people over what you are saying on the list. My developer friend is a software engineer. The Apple tech support person was in the higher tier of support. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 31/05/2012, at 19:28, Grant Hardy wrote: > Hi Neil, the twelve-second holding down of HOME and POWER is a forced > reboot, rather like pressing the REBOOT button on a PC. If system > corruption could occur on an iPhone using the other method (which as > I've said I'm skeptical about), then it most certainly could occur > with the reboot method as well, which does not shut anything down. > > Crashing your springboard is not "a forced collapsing" of the iOS > platform; the springboard is one part of the iOS architecture. It's > the part of iOS from which apps are launched. It does not store any > critical user data. > > I think there are a fair few misconceptions about this topic on list. > I don't mean to be argumentative but it is important that people > understand them, and that if you have a theory (such as that data > corruption could occur) that you make clear that it is just that--a > theory. People who are stating this theory have relatively little > technical data to back it up--case and point, the "forced collapsing > of the iOS system" statement, which this is not. > > Warmly :) > > Grant > > > > On 5/31/12, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: >> Adrian, >> >> I agree very much with David's suggestions, the stuttering of Voice Over is >> a classic symptom of an over full App Switcher and / or a handset which is >> rarely power cycled. >> >> My strong recommendation for all iOS users, is to empty their App Switcher >> daily and perform a power cycle immediately there after. >> >> This has kept my iPhone and iPad running smoothly ever since the first >> stuttering symptoms appeared. >> >> In addition, as a system admin I also hold to David's assertion that there >> is a possible chance of corruption by performing the forced collapsing of >> the iOS platform resulting from the 5 successive presses of the power key. >> >> The iOS device at this time is not expecting this crash and as a result >> maybe accessing a key string of code, or a significant part of your user >> data. If this happened at the exact moment you performed the 5 successive >> presses of the power key, it is conceivable that it might corrupt data. >> >> The 12 second or however long it is, press of power and home at the same >> time, is far more logical and sensible. As it is coded into the iOS as a >> sort of… I want to reboot this device, prepare for it please and stop doing >> anything critical notification to the device. >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Neil Barnfather >> >> Talks List Administrator >> Twitter @neilbarnfather >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple >> iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> >> URL: - www.talknav.com >> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >> >> On 30 May 2012, at 23:17, adrian wrote: >> >>> is it normal for voice over to stutter a lot? every time i read using >>> voice over i find it stutters a lot. does any one know of a way i can fix >>> it? >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@goog
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Hi, if you jailbreak your iPhone, it cannot be serviced. Also, if you jailbreak your iPhone, and call for tech support and mention that it's jailbroken, they probably won't help you. However if you jailbreak your iPhone and ever have to have it serviced, a restore of the software will remove the jailbreak. All that being said, there are 2 apps which come to mind which might fit the bill for you. 1. Filer. This app doesn't require a jailbreak. It allows you to upload files, such as music, documents, or whatever to the iPhone. Then from the app, you can manage or do whatever with these files, i.e. open them in other applications, ETC. If you just tap the music files you upload, you can listen to the music that way. However this isn't the same experience as using the built-in Music app of the iPhone. Basically, everything you upload to Filer will stay in Filer, but no jailbreak is necessary. 2. PWN Tunes. This is a jailbreak only app. Basically when you connect your iPhone to the pc, you can go to sever folders inside it, just like a usb stick. One of these folders is called "my music" and if you copy music there, you can later listen to it from the iPhone Music player. When you want to remove it, just connect it to the pc again and remove it from that same folder and it will be gone from the music player. Good luck. -- Raul A. Gallegos I'm not 50. I'm $49.95 plus tax. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/31/2012 3:14 AM, Shane Christenson wrote: Hey folks. I'd like to be able to transfer info and other stuff between my IPhone 4 s and my pc. without using itunes. i'd like to avoid jail-breaking my phone, because i don't know what I might do if I did. i still need to be able to perform updates and so forth, and I have the apple care protection plan for the phone. if jail breaking the phone won't void any of this, I'd be willing to try it, but if it's best not to jail-break, I'd like some way of transferring stuff between phone and pc without itunes. Anyone's thoughts on this are most welcome. Shane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Force rebooting of iPhone - Was Re: is it normal
Hi all, I feel that what David and Neil have stated are more correct for what it's worth. I personally have not looked up or researched whether or not it's a good idea to force a reboot via the power button being pressed multiple times, but on the surface it just seems silly and not safe to me. At least when you do the power button/home button for 12 seconds, it's giving the iOS system a chance to try and do what it can so that files and data are not being accessed while the phone is forced to reboot. This is why it's probably a several second process. Additionally, it could be that it's on purpose so you don't accidentally reboot your phone without meaning to. Lastly, folks, please update the subject lines. -- Raul A. Gallegos Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream. - George Bush Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/31/2012 6:10 AM, David Chittenden wrote: Hello Grant, My friend is some sort of developer. You can argue for crashing the springboard all you want saying it will not corrupt any code. My friend says there is a very slight chance that it could corrupt code. I prefer not to take that chance. I have corrupted code in a pocket pc which then required me to do a complete rebuild from my computer. As this takes time which I prefer not to spend in such fashion, I choose not to take the chance. An Apple support person is the one who told me that the home and power buttons simultaneously for 10 to 12 seconds reboots the phone and properly restores the driver stacks. From my timing of both restarts, the reboot takes longer for booting up than the power cycling for booting up. To be precise, the higher level support specialist told me to first turn the iPhone off then on, and once it has come fully on, do the reboot. Sorry, but I trust both of these people over what you are saying on the list. My developer friend is a software engineer. The Apple tech support person was in the higher tier of support. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 31/05/2012, at 19:28, Grant Hardy wrote: Hi Neil, the twelve-second holding down of HOME and POWER is a forced reboot, rather like pressing the REBOOT button on a PC. If system corruption could occur on an iPhone using the other method (which as I've said I'm skeptical about), then it most certainly could occur with the reboot method as well, which does not shut anything down. Crashing your springboard is not "a forced collapsing" of the iOS platform; the springboard is one part of the iOS architecture. It's the part of iOS from which apps are launched. It does not store any critical user data. I think there are a fair few misconceptions about this topic on list. I don't mean to be argumentative but it is important that people understand them, and that if you have a theory (such as that data corruption could occur) that you make clear that it is just that--a theory. People who are stating this theory have relatively little technical data to back it up--case and point, the "forced collapsing of the iOS system" statement, which this is not. Warmly :) Grant On 5/31/12, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: Adrian, I agree very much with David's suggestions, the stuttering of Voice Over is a classic symptom of an over full App Switcher and / or a handset which is rarely power cycled. My strong recommendation for all iOS users, is to empty their App Switcher daily and perform a power cycle immediately there after. This has kept my iPhone and iPad running smoothly ever since the first stuttering symptoms appeared. In addition, as a system admin I also hold to David's assertion that there is a possible chance of corruption by performing the forced collapsing of the iOS platform resulting from the 5 successive presses of the power key. The iOS device at this time is not expecting this crash and as a result maybe accessing a key string of code, or a significant part of your user data. If this happened at the exact moment you performed the 5 successive presses of the power key, it is conceivable that it might corrupt data. The 12 second or however long it is, press of power and home at the same time, is far more logical and sensible. As it is coded into the iOS as a sort of… I want to reboot this device, prepare for it please and stop doing anything critical notification to the device. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 30 May 2012, at 23:17, adrian wrote: is it normal for voice over to stutter a lot? every time i read using voi
Re: Force rebooting of iPhone - Was Re: is it normal
Hey Raul, I think this will be the last time I chime in on this subject, but I'm afraid that's not correct - holding down power and home for ten to twelve seconds is a forcible reset and doesn't properly shut down anything. Think about it. If it did, then if there ever were a software flaw that prevented the phone from being shut down properly, this reset, intended for these very cases, would not work! The reason there is a delay is as a safety mechanism, so that you don't do the reset inadvertently. That does not mean it is shutting down/rebooting the phone officially. I assure you that it is not. I agree - pressing POWER five times to crash the springboard is not something I'd necessarily want to encourage. But at the same time, crashing your springboard will _not_ corrupt the internal workings of the phone - the springboard is simply a system service for launching apps. Again, a lot of the people offering the point of view opposite to mine do not really understand how things such as the forcible reset actually work. Grant On 5/31/12, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: > Hi all, I feel that what David and Neil have stated are more correct for > what it's worth. I personally have not looked up or researched whether > or not it's a good idea to force a reboot via the power button being > pressed multiple times, but on the surface it just seems silly and not > safe to me. At least when you do the power button/home button for 12 > seconds, it's giving the iOS system a chance to try and do what it can > so that files and data are not being accessed while the phone is forced > to reboot. This is why it's probably a several second process. > Additionally, it could be that it's on purpose so you don't accidentally > reboot your phone without meaning to. > > Lastly, folks, please update the subject lines. > > -- > Raul A. Gallegos > Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream. - > George Bush > Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com > Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 > Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 > > On 5/31/2012 6:10 AM, David Chittenden wrote: >> Hello Grant, >> >> My friend is some sort of developer. You can argue for crashing the >> springboard all you want saying it will not corrupt any code. My friend >> says there is a very slight chance that it could corrupt code. I prefer >> not to take that chance. I have corrupted code in a pocket pc which then >> required me to do a complete rebuild from my computer. As this takes time >> which I prefer not to spend in such fashion, I choose not to take the >> chance. >> >> An Apple support person is the one who told me that the home and power >> buttons simultaneously for 10 to 12 seconds reboots the phone and properly >> restores the driver stacks. From my timing of both restarts, the reboot >> takes longer for booting up than the power cycling for booting up. >> >> To be precise, the higher level support specialist told me to first turn >> the iPhone off then on, and once it has come fully on, do the reboot. >> >> Sorry, but I trust both of these people over what you are saying on the >> list. My developer friend is a software engineer. The Apple tech support >> person was in the higher tier of support. >> >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 31/05/2012, at 19:28, Grant Hardy wrote: >> >>> Hi Neil, the twelve-second holding down of HOME and POWER is a forced >>> reboot, rather like pressing the REBOOT button on a PC. If system >>> corruption could occur on an iPhone using the other method (which as >>> I've said I'm skeptical about), then it most certainly could occur >>> with the reboot method as well, which does not shut anything down. >>> >>> Crashing your springboard is not "a forced collapsing" of the iOS >>> platform; the springboard is one part of the iOS architecture. It's >>> the part of iOS from which apps are launched. It does not store any >>> critical user data. >>> >>> I think there are a fair few misconceptions about this topic on list. >>> I don't mean to be argumentative but it is important that people >>> understand them, and that if you have a theory (such as that data >>> corruption could occur) that you make clear that it is just that--a >>> theory. People who are stating this theory have relatively little >>> technical data to back it up--case and point, the "forced collapsing >>> of the iOS system" statement, which this is not. >>> >>> Warmly :) >>> >>> Grant >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/31/12, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: Adrian, I agree very much with David's suggestions, the stuttering of Voice Over is a classic symptom of an over full App Switcher and / or a handset which is rarely power cycled. My strong recommendation for all iOS users, is to empty their App Switcher daily and perform a power cycle immediately there after. This has kept my iPhone and iPad runn
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Hi David, Fair enough; we shall agree to disagree on this one. What the Apple support person told you is basically true, but still doesn't contradict what I said at all. He is right, it reboots the phone. But it does not shut down any apps or save any data prior to doing the reset, because if it did, how would the reset actually work if there was a serious problem? Pocket PCs have totally, totally different internal workings to iOS devices and you're right, it is easy to corrupt those devices. Your friend also never told you anything other than his theory (he never stated that he knew of it happening), so I am not really sure I would consider it contradictory to what I said either. The great thing about these lists is that we've got a ton of iOS enthusiasts sharing tips and perspectives, and there's nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree! Warmly, Grant On 5/31/12, David Chittenden wrote: > Hello Grant, > > My friend is some sort of developer. You can argue for crashing the > springboard all you want saying it will not corrupt any code. My friend says > there is a very slight chance that it could corrupt code. I prefer not to > take that chance. I have corrupted code in a pocket pc which then required > me to do a complete rebuild from my computer. As this takes time which I > prefer not to spend in such fashion, I choose not to take the chance. > > An Apple support person is the one who told me that the home and power > buttons simultaneously for 10 to 12 seconds reboots the phone and properly > restores the driver stacks. From my timing of both restarts, the reboot > takes longer for booting up than the power cycling for booting up. > > To be precise, the higher level support specialist told me to first turn the > iPhone off then on, and once it has come fully on, do the reboot. > > Sorry, but I trust both of these people over what you are saying on the > list. My developer friend is a software engineer. The Apple tech support > person was in the higher tier of support. > > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > > On 31/05/2012, at 19:28, Grant Hardy wrote: > >> Hi Neil, the twelve-second holding down of HOME and POWER is a forced >> reboot, rather like pressing the REBOOT button on a PC. If system >> corruption could occur on an iPhone using the other method (which as >> I've said I'm skeptical about), then it most certainly could occur >> with the reboot method as well, which does not shut anything down. >> >> Crashing your springboard is not "a forced collapsing" of the iOS >> platform; the springboard is one part of the iOS architecture. It's >> the part of iOS from which apps are launched. It does not store any >> critical user data. >> >> I think there are a fair few misconceptions about this topic on list. >> I don't mean to be argumentative but it is important that people >> understand them, and that if you have a theory (such as that data >> corruption could occur) that you make clear that it is just that--a >> theory. People who are stating this theory have relatively little >> technical data to back it up--case and point, the "forced collapsing >> of the iOS system" statement, which this is not. >> >> Warmly :) >> >> Grant >> >> >> >> On 5/31/12, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: >>> Adrian, >>> >>> I agree very much with David's suggestions, the stuttering of Voice Over >>> is >>> a classic symptom of an over full App Switcher and / or a handset which >>> is >>> rarely power cycled. >>> >>> My strong recommendation for all iOS users, is to empty their App >>> Switcher >>> daily and perform a power cycle immediately there after. >>> >>> This has kept my iPhone and iPad running smoothly ever since the first >>> stuttering symptoms appeared. >>> >>> In addition, as a system admin I also hold to David's assertion that >>> there >>> is a possible chance of corruption by performing the forced collapsing >>> of >>> the iOS platform resulting from the 5 successive presses of the power >>> key. >>> >>> The iOS device at this time is not expecting this crash and as a result >>> maybe accessing a key string of code, or a significant part of your user >>> data. If this happened at the exact moment you performed the 5 >>> successive >>> presses of the power key, it is conceivable that it might corrupt data. >>> >>> The 12 second or however long it is, press of power and home at the same >>> time, is far more logical and sensible. As it is coded into the iOS as a >>> sort of… I want to reboot this device, prepare for it please and stop >>> doing >>> anything critical notification to the device. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Neil Barnfather >>> >>> Talks List Administrator >>> Twitter @neilbarnfather >>> >>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an >>> Apple >>> iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your >>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav
Re: itunes alternatikve
ok. How's the best way to jail-break the phone. I'm using i o s 5.1.1. Thanks. Shane On 5/31/2012 5:13 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: Hi, if you jailbreak your iPhone, it cannot be serviced. Also, if you jailbreak your iPhone, and call for tech support and mention that it's jailbroken, they probably won't help you. However if you jailbreak your iPhone and ever have to have it serviced, a restore of the software will remove the jailbreak. All that being said, there are 2 apps which come to mind which might fit the bill for you. 1. Filer. This app doesn't require a jailbreak. It allows you to upload files, such as music, documents, or whatever to the iPhone. Then from the app, you can manage or do whatever with these files, i.e. open them in other applications, ETC. If you just tap the music files you upload, you can listen to the music that way. However this isn't the same experience as using the built-in Music app of the iPhone. Basically, everything you upload to Filer will stay in Filer, but no jailbreak is necessary. 2. PWN Tunes. This is a jailbreak only app. Basically when you connect your iPhone to the pc, you can go to sever folders inside it, just like a usb stick. One of these folders is called "my music" and if you copy music there, you can later listen to it from the iPhone Music player. When you want to remove it, just connect it to the pc again and remove it from that same folder and it will be gone from the music player. Good luck. -- Raul A. Gallegos I'm not 50. I'm $49.95 plus tax. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/31/2012 3:14 AM, Shane Christenson wrote: Hey folks. I'd like to be able to transfer info and other stuff between my IPhone 4 s and my pc. without using itunes. i'd like to avoid jail-breaking my phone, because i don't know what I might do if I did. i still need to be able to perform updates and so forth, and I have the apple care protection plan for the phone. if jail breaking the phone won't void any of this, I'd be willing to try it, but if it's best not to jail-break, I'd like some way of transferring stuff between phone and pc without itunes. Anyone's thoughts on this are most welcome. Shane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: typing on the phone
The roter is driving me a little crazy. I don't seem to be able to get the correct roter and so am having difficulty verifying what I've written. Also the punctuation seems a bit cumbersome. K On 5/31/12, Sandy Finley wrote: > I am not sure yet what I'd suggest as an alternative but I think that rotor > is a problem. Wonder if it would be easier to make TIB default to Insert > Mode when you open it and then put the other choices in the menu. It's a > lot > easier to flick up than do that rotor motion. > > > > Sandy > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of EWTEch Accessibility > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:55 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > > > We are thinking to manage with the rotor system as Rob (and also other > users) suggest, but at this time, a little trick to succeed in using the > right rotor is to tap one time on the screen once you open the app, so that > the iPhone can recognize that you are into TypeInBraille and let you switch > the three different modes using the right rotor. > > > > Instead you can't mistake the rotor if you still writing into > TypeInBraille.. > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Rob Harris > wrote: > > It has its own rotor, though this is something I would like them to fix. > But the TIB (TypeInBraille) rotor has 3 options:- insert, navigate, select. > Just twist the rotor to the one you need. Hope you get the right rotor or > VO will send you up the wall saying characters, words, headers, > language,... > and so on. So bear with it, the modes are good when you get at them. > Remember to twist it back to insert to write some more, including the > corrections. > > - Original Message - > From: "Jane" > To: > > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:56 AM > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > > How do you edit? I have managed to delete mistakes as i catch them, but > what > if I made a mistake a sentence back and want to fix it? How do I go back > word by word or character by character, and then how do I fix it? > > Jane > > > > > On May 30, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Sandy Finley wrote: > >> Kim, I downloaded this app. I had the same impression as you but as I >> worked >> with it more I began to see that it really is not as labor intensive as I >> thought. I don't think that the online demo is as effective as it could >> have been. >> >> First off you have to turn the Braille cell on its side. Don't think of >> it >> as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6; rather, 1, 4; 2, 5; 3, 6. You need to tell the app >> what >> you want to do with all three of those rows for each letter. >> A one-finger tap in a row says you want one dot; two fingers says two >> dots >> in that row and a three-finger tap says no dots in that row. So the way >> he >> describes A initially is: >> 1 one-finger tap for the top row >> One three-finger tap for the second row >> One three-finger tap for the third. >> >> But all you really need to do is the one one-finger tap and then flick >> one >> finger to the right. This gesture tells Type-In-Braille that you are done >> with that character. This speeds you up considerably. >> B is two one-finger taps followed by a one-finger right flick. >> C is a two-finger tap, just like a Braille c, followed by the right >> flick. >> >> It takes some practice; K, for instance, is tricky. But I also like the >> way >> I can edit in it, going back and forth, one letter or word at a time. It >> tells me what I am deleting, unlike VO on the phone keypad. >> >> Type-InBraille is meant only for typing text which is then selected and >> copied into something else, like an e-mail or Facebook. You cannot do >> e-mail >> addresses or type in search boxes. >> >> >> I am so far finding this faster than typing on the keypad on the phone. >> >> Sorry for this long explanation; HTH. >> >> Sandy >> >> C is tapping two fingers at the same time for the top row (just like a C) >> followed by a one-finger flick right. From: viphone@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner >> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 4:57 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: typing on the phone >> >> I'd like to hear from people who are using this app. I was intrigued when >> I >> read the description, but after listening to the demo,my initial >> impression >> is that it's a rather labor-intensive way of inputting text. >> >> Anyone have any real-world feedback to share? >> >> Kimber >> >> On 5/29/12, EWTEch Accessibility wrote: >>> Hi everybody, >>> >>> we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the >>> developers of TypeInBraille app. >>> We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider >>> it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. >>> >>> For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: >>> http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille >>> >>> Thank you >>> >>> >>> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jere
Re: typing on the phone
By some fluke I used a 3finger down and it took me to another page where it had a standard text input field and the onscreen keyboard. Not sure what that's for, but I got to read the text at least. - Original Message - From: "Kimber Gardner" To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:59 AM Subject: Re: typing on the phone The roter is driving me a little crazy. I don't seem to be able to get the correct roter and so am having difficulty verifying what I've written. Also the punctuation seems a bit cumbersome. K On 5/31/12, Sandy Finley wrote: > I am not sure yet what I'd suggest as an alternative but I think that > rotor > is a problem. Wonder if it would be easier to make TIB default to Insert > Mode when you open it and then put the other choices in the menu. It's a > lot > easier to flick up than do that rotor motion. > > > > Sandy > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of EWTEch Accessibility > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:55 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > > > We are thinking to manage with the rotor system as Rob (and also other > users) suggest, but at this time, a little trick to succeed in using the > right rotor is to tap one time on the screen once you open the app, so > that > the iPhone can recognize that you are into TypeInBraille and let you > switch > the three different modes using the right rotor. > > > > Instead you can't mistake the rotor if you still writing into > TypeInBraille.. > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Rob Harris > wrote: > > It has its own rotor, though this is something I would like them to fix. > But the TIB (TypeInBraille) rotor has 3 options:- insert, navigate, > select. > Just twist the rotor to the one you need. Hope you get the right rotor or > VO will send you up the wall saying characters, words, headers, > language,... > and so on. So bear with it, the modes are good when you get at them. > Remember to twist it back to insert to write some more, including the > corrections. > > - Original Message - > From: "Jane" > To: > > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:56 AM > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > > How do you edit? I have managed to delete mistakes as i catch them, but > what > if I made a mistake a sentence back and want to fix it? How do I go back > word by word or character by character, and then how do I fix it? > > Jane > > > > > On May 30, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Sandy Finley wrote: > >> Kim, I downloaded this app. I had the same impression as you but as I >> worked >> with it more I began to see that it really is not as labor intensive as I >> thought. I don't think that the online demo is as effective as it could >> have been. >> >> First off you have to turn the Braille cell on its side. Don't think of >> it >> as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6; rather, 1, 4; 2, 5; 3, 6. You need to tell the app >> what >> you want to do with all three of those rows for each letter. >> A one-finger tap in a row says you want one dot; two fingers says two >> dots >> in that row and a three-finger tap says no dots in that row. So the way >> he >> describes A initially is: >> 1 one-finger tap for the top row >> One three-finger tap for the second row >> One three-finger tap for the third. >> >> But all you really need to do is the one one-finger tap and then flick >> one >> finger to the right. This gesture tells Type-In-Braille that you are done >> with that character. This speeds you up considerably. >> B is two one-finger taps followed by a one-finger right flick. >> C is a two-finger tap, just like a Braille c, followed by the right >> flick. >> >> It takes some practice; K, for instance, is tricky. But I also like the >> way >> I can edit in it, going back and forth, one letter or word at a time. It >> tells me what I am deleting, unlike VO on the phone keypad. >> >> Type-InBraille is meant only for typing text which is then selected and >> copied into something else, like an e-mail or Facebook. You cannot do >> e-mail >> addresses or type in search boxes. >> >> >> I am so far finding this faster than typing on the keypad on the phone. >> >> Sorry for this long explanation; HTH. >> >> Sandy >> >> C is tapping two fingers at the same time for the top row (just like a C) >> followed by a one-finger flick right. From: viphone@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner >> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 4:57 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: typing on the phone >> >> I'd like to hear from people who are using this app. I was intrigued when >> I >> read the description, but after listening to the demo,my initial >> impression >> is that it's a rather labor-intensive way of inputting text. >> >> Anyone have any real-world feedback to share? >> >> Kimber >> >> On 5/29/12, EWTEch Accessibility wrote: >>> Hi everybody, >>> >>> we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the >>> developers of Type
Re: typing on the phone
To verify what you've written you have to flick with 3 fingers from right to left and the voiceover will read the text to you, so that you can verify everything. On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Rob Harris wrote: > By some fluke I used a 3finger down and it took me to another page where > it > had a standard text input field and the onscreen keyboard. Not sure what > that's for, but I got to read the text at least. > - Original Message - > From: "Kimber Gardner" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:59 AM > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > > The roter is driving me a little crazy. I don't seem to be able to get > the correct roter and so am having difficulty verifying what I've > written. > > Also the punctuation seems a bit cumbersome. > > K > > On 5/31/12, Sandy Finley wrote: > > I am not sure yet what I'd suggest as an alternative but I think that > > rotor > > is a problem. Wonder if it would be easier to make TIB default to Insert > > Mode when you open it and then put the other choices in the menu. It's a > > lot > > easier to flick up than do that rotor motion. > > > > > > > > Sandy > > > > > > > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf > > Of EWTEch Accessibility > > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:55 AM > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > > > > > > > We are thinking to manage with the rotor system as Rob (and also other > > users) suggest, but at this time, a little trick to succeed in using the > > right rotor is to tap one time on the screen once you open the app, so > > that > > the iPhone can recognize that you are into TypeInBraille and let you > > switch > > the three different modes using the right rotor. > > > > > > > > Instead you can't mistake the rotor if you still writing into > > TypeInBraille.. > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Rob Harris > > wrote: > > > > It has its own rotor, though this is something I would like them to fix. > > But the TIB (TypeInBraille) rotor has 3 options:- insert, navigate, > > select. > > Just twist the rotor to the one you need. Hope you get the right rotor > or > > VO will send you up the wall saying characters, words, headers, > > language,... > > and so on. So bear with it, the modes are good when you get at them. > > Remember to twist it back to insert to write some more, including the > > corrections. > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Jane" > > To: > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:56 AM > > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > > > > > How do you edit? I have managed to delete mistakes as i catch them, but > > what > > if I made a mistake a sentence back and want to fix it? How do I go back > > word by word or character by character, and then how do I fix it? > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > > > On May 30, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Sandy Finley wrote: > > > >> Kim, I downloaded this app. I had the same impression as you but as I > >> worked > >> with it more I began to see that it really is not as labor intensive as > I > >> thought. I don't think that the online demo is as effective as it could > >> have been. > >> > >> First off you have to turn the Braille cell on its side. Don't think of > >> it > >> as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6; rather, 1, 4; 2, 5; 3, 6. You need to tell the app > >> what > >> you want to do with all three of those rows for each letter. > >> A one-finger tap in a row says you want one dot; two fingers says two > >> dots > >> in that row and a three-finger tap says no dots in that row. So the way > >> he > >> describes A initially is: > >> 1 one-finger tap for the top row > >> One three-finger tap for the second row > >> One three-finger tap for the third. > >> > >> But all you really need to do is the one one-finger tap and then flick > >> one > >> finger to the right. This gesture tells Type-In-Braille that you are > done > >> with that character. This speeds you up considerably. > >> B is two one-finger taps followed by a one-finger right flick. > >> C is a two-finger tap, just like a Braille c, followed by the right > >> flick. > >> > >> It takes some practice; K, for instance, is tricky. But I also like the > >> way > >> I can edit in it, going back and forth, one letter or word at a time. It > >> tells me what I am deleting, unlike VO on the phone keypad. > >> > >> Type-InBraille is meant only for typing text which is then selected and > >> copied into something else, like an e-mail or Facebook. You cannot do > >> e-mail > >> addresses or type in search boxes. > >> > >> > >> I am so far finding this faster than typing on the keypad on the phone. > >> > >> Sorry for this long explanation; HTH. > >> > >> Sandy > >> > >> C is tapping two fingers at the same time for the top row (just like a > C) > >> followed by a one-finger flick right. From: viphone@googlegroups.com > >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 4:57 AM > >> To: viphone@googlegroups.
Re: IOS development
Hallo Igor, Xcode is the only tool you can use for iOS development. there is no way around. However, Xcode is quite accessible and blind people can use it, as I do. The thing that is not accessible is the so-called Interface Builder, with which you can click and drag your user interface. But this is no problem. Everything can be done programmatically. There is a lot of documentation on Apple's developer portal at http://developer.apple.com . It is very covering and accessible. You have to register as an developer (for free) to get access. Do you have some experiences in programming? Greetings Jan --- ColorVisor - The app to identify colors. Now available on the iTunes App Store: http://itunes.apple.com/de/app/colorvisor/id511093568?mt=8&ls=1 --- Dr. Jan Blüher visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone Bayreuther Str. 2 D-01187 Dresden Germany phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907 mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242 e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com web: http://visorApps.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps tax number: DE281706766 Am 31.05.2012 um 13:24 schrieb Igor Kaplan: > Hi dear listers, > > I believe, we have some blind IOS developers on this list, so would like to > ask some questions as a very beginner IOS developer. > I believe, the part of XCode which builds the user interface is not > accessible, at least it is rather complex to use it with VoiceOver. > I wander, is there a good documentation, how to create and use IOS > controls, such as buttons, Text boxes and so on by code instead of using the > XCode? > I am probably not using the correct terminology here, I am windows > developer just starting with IOS. > I have looked at several books about IOS developments, however all of them > are talking about using XCode while building the User interface. So far I am > not able to find the documentation, which would give me a good reference, how > to do the controls layout by code. > Would so much appreciate, if someone could please point me to such resource. > > Many thanks and have a wonderful day! > > Igor. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email > toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: IOS development
This is something I'd like, not done programming for a while, but did a degree in the stuff using a range of languages at the time. so how do we join this club? happy to hear we can type our own way without all the visual-blah mentality! Thanks, RobH. - Original Message - From: "Jan Blüher" To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:20 PM Subject: Re: IOS development Hallo Igor, Xcode is the only tool you can use for iOS development. there is no way around. However, Xcode is quite accessible and blind people can use it, as I do. The thing that is not accessible is the so-called Interface Builder, with which you can click and drag your user interface. But this is no problem. Everything can be done programmatically. There is a lot of documentation on Apple's developer portal at http://developer.apple.com . It is very covering and accessible. You have to register as an developer (for free) to get access. Do you have some experiences in programming? Greetings Jan --- ColorVisor - The app to identify colors. Now available on the iTunes App Store: http://itunes.apple.com/de/app/colorvisor/id511093568?mt=8&ls=1 --- Dr. Jan Blüher visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone Bayreuther Str. 2 D-01187 Dresden Germany phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907 mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242 e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com web: http://visorApps.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps tax number: DE281706766 Am 31.05.2012 um 13:24 schrieb Igor Kaplan: > Hi dear listers, > > I believe, we have some blind IOS developers on this list, so would like > to ask some questions as a very beginner IOS developer. > I believe, the part of XCode which builds the user interface is not > accessible, at least it is rather complex to use it with VoiceOver. > I wander, is there a good documentation, how to create and use IOS > controls, such as buttons, Text boxes and so on by code instead of using > the XCode? > I am probably not using the correct terminology here, I am windows > developer just starting with IOS. > I have looked at several books about IOS developments, however all of > them are talking about using XCode while building the User interface. So > far I am not able to find the documentation, which would give me a good > reference, how to do the controls layout by code. > Would so much appreciate, if someone could please point me to such > resource. > > Many thanks and have a wonderful day! > > Igor. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email > toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: itunes alternatikve
Hi, the following link gives you information on what to do. The steps are very easy. And once you jailbreak, there are some things you should learn about the process. For the most part, you still use the phone the same way. The only big difference is that if you want to get specific jailbreak apps, you do it from the Cydia app instead of the app store. For example, PWN Tunes is purchased from Cydia, not the App store. http://greenpois0n.com/2012/05/absinthe-2-0-has-arrived/ -- Raul A. Gallegos A lifelong friend is someone you haven't borrowed money from yet. ~ Anonymous Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/31/2012 6:51 AM, Shane Christenson wrote: ok. How's the best way to jail-break the phone. I'm using i o s 5.1.1. Thanks. Shane On 5/31/2012 5:13 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: Hi, if you jailbreak your iPhone, it cannot be serviced. Also, if you jailbreak your iPhone, and call for tech support and mention that it's jailbroken, they probably won't help you. However if you jailbreak your iPhone and ever have to have it serviced, a restore of the software will remove the jailbreak. All that being said, there are 2 apps which come to mind which might fit the bill for you. 1. Filer. This app doesn't require a jailbreak. It allows you to upload files, such as music, documents, or whatever to the iPhone. Then from the app, you can manage or do whatever with these files, i.e. open them in other applications, ETC. If you just tap the music files you upload, you can listen to the music that way. However this isn't the same experience as using the built-in Music app of the iPhone. Basically, everything you upload to Filer will stay in Filer, but no jailbreak is necessary. 2. PWN Tunes. This is a jailbreak only app. Basically when you connect your iPhone to the pc, you can go to sever folders inside it, just like a usb stick. One of these folders is called "my music" and if you copy music there, you can later listen to it from the iPhone Music player. When you want to remove it, just connect it to the pc again and remove it from that same folder and it will be gone from the music player. Good luck. -- Raul A. Gallegos I'm not 50. I'm $49.95 plus tax. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/31/2012 3:14 AM, Shane Christenson wrote: Hey folks. I'd like to be able to transfer info and other stuff between my IPhone 4 s and my pc. without using itunes. i'd like to avoid jail-breaking my phone, because i don't know what I might do if I did. i still need to be able to perform updates and so forth, and I have the apple care protection plan for the phone. if jail breaking the phone won't void any of this, I'd be willing to try it, but if it's best not to jail-break, I'd like some way of transferring stuff between phone and pc without itunes. Anyone's thoughts on this are most welcome. Shane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Force rebooting of iPhone - Was Re: is it normal
Grant, thanks for your informative message. I think we will just have to agree to disagree rather than continuing to offer differing views. If I cared more, I'd call Apple myself and/or go to an Apple store and do more Internet searching, but I don't really other than just to say that if I do have to reset my phone, I will do it in the way that I'm comfortable with, just as you will with yours. Cheers. -- Raul A. Gallegos Needing someone is like needing a parachute. If he isn't there the first time you need him, chances are you won't be needing him again! ~ Anonymous Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/31/2012 6:41 AM, Grant Hardy wrote: Hey Raul, I think this will be the last time I chime in on this subject, but I'm afraid that's not correct - holding down power and home for ten to twelve seconds is a forcible reset and doesn't properly shut down anything. Think about it. If it did, then if there ever were a software flaw that prevented the phone from being shut down properly, this reset, intended for these very cases, would not work! The reason there is a delay is as a safety mechanism, so that you don't do the reset inadvertently. That does not mean it is shutting down/rebooting the phone officially. I assure you that it is not. I agree - pressing POWER five times to crash the springboard is not something I'd necessarily want to encourage. But at the same time, crashing your springboard will _not_ corrupt the internal workings of the phone - the springboard is simply a system service for launching apps. Again, a lot of the people offering the point of view opposite to mine do not really understand how things such as the forcible reset actually work. Grant On 5/31/12, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: Hi all, I feel that what David and Neil have stated are more correct for what it's worth. I personally have not looked up or researched whether or not it's a good idea to force a reboot via the power button being pressed multiple times, but on the surface it just seems silly and not safe to me. At least when you do the power button/home button for 12 seconds, it's giving the iOS system a chance to try and do what it can so that files and data are not being accessed while the phone is forced to reboot. This is why it's probably a several second process. Additionally, it could be that it's on purpose so you don't accidentally reboot your phone without meaning to. Lastly, folks, please update the subject lines. -- Raul A. Gallegos Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream. - George Bush Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/31/2012 6:10 AM, David Chittenden wrote: Hello Grant, My friend is some sort of developer. You can argue for crashing the springboard all you want saying it will not corrupt any code. My friend says there is a very slight chance that it could corrupt code. I prefer not to take that chance. I have corrupted code in a pocket pc which then required me to do a complete rebuild from my computer. As this takes time which I prefer not to spend in such fashion, I choose not to take the chance. An Apple support person is the one who told me that the home and power buttons simultaneously for 10 to 12 seconds reboots the phone and properly restores the driver stacks. From my timing of both restarts, the reboot takes longer for booting up than the power cycling for booting up. To be precise, the higher level support specialist told me to first turn the iPhone off then on, and once it has come fully on, do the reboot. Sorry, but I trust both of these people over what you are saying on the list. My developer friend is a software engineer. The Apple tech support person was in the higher tier of support. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 31/05/2012, at 19:28, Grant Hardy wrote: Hi Neil, the twelve-second holding down of HOME and POWER is a forced reboot, rather like pressing the REBOOT button on a PC. If system corruption could occur on an iPhone using the other method (which as I've said I'm skeptical about), then it most certainly could occur with the reboot method as well, which does not shut anything down. Crashing your springboard is not "a forced collapsing" of the iOS platform; the springboard is one part of the iOS architecture. It's the part of iOS from which apps are launched. It does not store any critical user data. I think there are a fair few misconceptions about this topic on list. I don't mean to be argumentative but it is important that people understand them, and that if you have a theory (such as that data corruption could occur) that you make clear that it is just that--a theory. People who are stating this theory have relatively little technical data to back it up--case and point, the "forced collapsing of the i
Re: IOS development
Hallo Rob and Igor, here comes the link to the Apple developer registration page, where you can read more about the things you will have access to: https://developer.apple.com/programs/register/ Good luck Jan --- ColorVisor - The app to identify colors. Available on the App Store: http://itunes.com/app/ColorVisor --- Dr. Jan Blüher visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone Bayreuther Str. 2 D-01187 Dresden Germany phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907 mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242 e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com web: http://visorApps.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps tax number: DE281706766 Am 31.05.2012 um 14:31 schrieb Rob Harris: > This is something I'd like, not done programming for a while, but did a > degree in the stuff using a range of languages at the time. so how do we > join this club? happy to hear we can type our own way without all the > visual-blah mentality! > > Thanks, RobH. > - Original Message - > From: "Jan Blüher" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:20 PM > Subject: Re: IOS development > > > Hallo Igor, > > Xcode is the only tool you can use for iOS development. there is no way > around. However, Xcode is quite accessible and blind people can use it, as I > do. > > The thing that is not accessible is the so-called Interface Builder, with > which you can click and drag your user interface. But this is no problem. > Everything can be done programmatically. There is a lot of documentation on > Apple's developer portal at http://developer.apple.com . It is very covering > and accessible. You have to register as an developer (for free) to get > access. > > Do you have some experiences in programming? > > Greetings > > Jan > > --- > ColorVisor - The app to identify colors. > Now available on the iTunes App Store: > http://itunes.apple.com/de/app/colorvisor/id511093568?mt=8&ls=1 > --- > Dr. Jan Blüher > visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone > Bayreuther Str. 2 > D-01187 Dresden > Germany > > phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907 > mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242 > e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com > web: http://visorApps.com > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps > > tax number: DE281706766 > > > > > Am 31.05.2012 um 13:24 schrieb Igor Kaplan: > >> Hi dear listers, >> >> I believe, we have some blind IOS developers on this list, so would like >> to ask some questions as a very beginner IOS developer. >> I believe, the part of XCode which builds the user interface is not >> accessible, at least it is rather complex to use it with VoiceOver. >> I wander, is there a good documentation, how to create and use IOS >> controls, such as buttons, Text boxes and so on by code instead of using >> the XCode? >> I am probably not using the correct terminology here, I am windows >> developer just starting with IOS. >> I have looked at several books about IOS developments, however all of >> them are talking about using XCode while building the User interface. So >> far I am not able to find the documentation, which would give me a good >> reference, how to do the controls layout by code. >> Would so much appreciate, if someone could please point me to such >> resource. >> >> Many thanks and have a wonderful day! >> >>Igor. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email >> toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email t
Re: YouVersion Question
I'll ask my friend if she can work it out as she has enough vision to see what I sometimes miss. -- Carol P Original Message From: "Sarai Bucciarelli" To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:45 AM Subject: Re: YouVersion Question Hi: I'm not sure about the labeling of Bookmarks, and how that works. Thanks for the help. On May 30, 2012, at 2:42 PM, Carol Pearson wrote: To be honest, a partially sighted friend alerted me to it and, once there and she had explained that you had to double tap the verses to select them, I was away! I'm still not totally clear about the Notes edit boxes so may get her to take a look at that. -- Carol P Original Message From: "Sarai Bucciarelli" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 2:29 PM Subject: Re: YouVersion Question Hi: Thank you! That did it. Man. How did you find that action button? I looked everywhere! Will my bookmarks be transferred to my iPad too? On May 29, 2012, at 4:50 AM, Carol Pearson wrote: Hi Sarah, Sorry, haven't time to give detailed instructions now ... but I think you'll catch on if I start you off: 1)Double Tap each verse you want to include; 2Locate a rather small button on the bottom right edge which says "Action". From there you follow your nose and it's necessary to swipe all the way to the left to get a feel of what you can do there ... Any more questions when you've played a little, do come back and I'll do my best to give some more detailed explanations if I can. -- Carol P - Just off out now and busy day ahead! Original Message From: "Sarai Bucciarelli" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 5:00 PM Subject: YouVersion Question Hi: How do you create notes and Bookmarks with Youversion? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: itunes alternative
Dear Raul, Is jailbreeaking a phone under contract to a carrier violating any laws? Don't care if others do it but not for me if it isn't legal. Curiously, Darla -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes alternatikve Hi, the following link gives you information on what to do. The steps are very easy. And once you jailbreak, there are some things you should learn about the process. For the most part, you still use the phone the same way. The only big difference is that if you want to get specific jailbreak apps, you do it from the Cydia app instead of the app store. For example, PWN Tunes is purchased from Cydia, not the App store. http://greenpois0n.com/2012/05/absinthe-2-0-has-arrived/ -- Raul A. Gallegos A lifelong friend is someone you haven't borrowed money from yet. ~ Anonymous Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/31/2012 6:51 AM, Shane Christenson wrote: > ok. How's the best way to jail-break the phone. I'm using i o s 5.1.1. > Thanks. > > Shane > On 5/31/2012 5:13 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: >> Hi, if you jailbreak your iPhone, it cannot be serviced. Also, if you >> jailbreak your iPhone, and call for tech support and mention that >> it's jailbroken, they probably won't help you. However if you >> jailbreak your iPhone and ever have to have it serviced, a restore of >> the software will remove the jailbreak. All that being said, there >> are 2 apps which come to mind which might fit the bill for you. >> >> 1. Filer. This app doesn't require a jailbreak. It allows you to >> upload files, such as music, documents, or whatever to the iPhone. >> Then from the app, you can manage or do whatever with these files, >> i.e. open them in other applications, ETC. If you just tap the music >> files you upload, you can listen to the music that way. However this >> isn't the same experience as using the built-in Music app of the >> iPhone. Basically, everything you upload to Filer will stay in Filer, >> but no jailbreak is necessary. >> >> 2. PWN Tunes. This is a jailbreak only app. Basically when you >> connect your iPhone to the pc, you can go to sever folders inside it, >> just like a usb stick. One of these folders is called "my music" and >> if you copy music there, you can later listen to it from the iPhone >> Music player. When you want to remove it, just connect it to the pc >> again and remove it from that same folder and it will be gone from >> the music player. >> >> Good luck. >> >> -- >> Raul A. Gallegos >> I'm not 50. I'm $49.95 plus tax. >> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com >> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 >> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 >> >> On 5/31/2012 3:14 AM, Shane Christenson wrote: >>> Hey folks. I'd like to be able to transfer info and other stuff >>> between my IPhone 4 s and my pc. without using itunes. i'd like to >>> avoid jail-breaking my phone, because i don't know what I might do >>> if I did. i still need to be able to perform updates and so forth, >>> and I have the apple care protection plan for the phone. if jail >>> breaking the phone won't void any of this, I'd be willing to try it, >>> but if it's best not to jail-break, I'd like some way of >>> transferring stuff between phone and pc without itunes. Anyone's thoughts on this are most welcome. >>> >>> Shane >>> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Legality of jail breaking [was "Re: itunes alternative"]
Jail breaking your iPhone is not illegal. It will void your warrantee with Apple and your carrier though. On 31/05/12 08:57, Darla Rogers wrote: > Dear Raul, > > Is jailbreeaking a phone under contract to a carrier violating any laws? > Don't care if others do it but not for me if it isn't legal. > > Curiously, > Darla > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Raul A. Gallegos > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:29 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: itunes alternatikve > > Hi, the following link gives you information on what to do. The steps are > very easy. And once you jailbreak, there are some things you should learn > about the process. For the most part, you still use the phone the same way. > The only big difference is that if you want to get specific jailbreak apps, > you do it from the Cydia app instead of the app store. > For example, PWN Tunes is purchased from Cydia, not the App store. > > http://greenpois0n.com/2012/05/absinthe-2-0-has-arrived/ > > -- > Raul A. Gallegos > A lifelong friend is someone you haven't borrowed money from yet. ~ > Anonymous Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com > Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 > Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 > > On 5/31/2012 6:51 AM, Shane Christenson wrote: >> ok. How's the best way to jail-break the phone. I'm using i o s 5.1.1. >> Thanks. >> >> Shane >> On 5/31/2012 5:13 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: >>> Hi, if you jailbreak your iPhone, it cannot be serviced. Also, if you >>> jailbreak your iPhone, and call for tech support and mention that >>> it's jailbroken, they probably won't help you. However if you >>> jailbreak your iPhone and ever have to have it serviced, a restore of >>> the software will remove the jailbreak. All that being said, there >>> are 2 apps which come to mind which might fit the bill for you. >>> >>> 1. Filer. This app doesn't require a jailbreak. It allows you to >>> upload files, such as music, documents, or whatever to the iPhone. >>> Then from the app, you can manage or do whatever with these files, >>> i.e. open them in other applications, ETC. If you just tap the music >>> files you upload, you can listen to the music that way. However this >>> isn't the same experience as using the built-in Music app of the >>> iPhone. Basically, everything you upload to Filer will stay in Filer, >>> but no jailbreak is necessary. >>> >>> 2. PWN Tunes. This is a jailbreak only app. Basically when you >>> connect your iPhone to the pc, you can go to sever folders inside it, >>> just like a usb stick. One of these folders is called "my music" and >>> if you copy music there, you can later listen to it from the iPhone >>> Music player. When you want to remove it, just connect it to the pc >>> again and remove it from that same folder and it will be gone from >>> the music player. >>> >>> Good luck. >>> >>> -- >>> Raul A. Gallegos >>> I'm not 50. I'm $49.95 plus tax. >>> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com >>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 >>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 >>> >>> On 5/31/2012 3:14 AM, Shane Christenson wrote: Hey folks. I'd like to be able to transfer info and other stuff between my IPhone 4 s and my pc. without using itunes. i'd like to avoid jail-breaking my phone, because i don't know what I might do if I did. i still need to be able to perform updates and so forth, and I have the apple care protection plan for the phone. if jail breaking the phone won't void any of this, I'd be willing to try it, but if it's best not to jail-break, I'd like some way of transferring stuff between phone and pc without itunes. Anyone's > thoughts on this are most welcome. Shane >>> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: itunes alternative
Hi, no it isn't. You can do a Google search to read a lot of documentation about this, but below is one link which gives some direct information. http://isjailbreakingillegal.com/ -- Raul A. Gallegos ACTUAL NEWSPAPER HEADLINE: Statistics Show That Teen Pregnancy Drops Off Significantly After Age 25 - Denver Post Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/31/2012 9:57 AM, Darla Rogers wrote: Dear Raul, Is jailbreeaking a phone under contract to a carrier violating any laws? Don't care if others do it but not for me if it isn't legal. Curiously, Darla -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes alternatikve Hi, the following link gives you information on what to do. The steps are very easy. And once you jailbreak, there are some things you should learn about the process. For the most part, you still use the phone the same way. The only big difference is that if you want to get specific jailbreak apps, you do it from the Cydia app instead of the app store. For example, PWN Tunes is purchased from Cydia, not the App store. http://greenpois0n.com/2012/05/absinthe-2-0-has-arrived/ -- Raul A. Gallegos A lifelong friend is someone you haven't borrowed money from yet. ~ Anonymous Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/31/2012 6:51 AM, Shane Christenson wrote: ok. How's the best way to jail-break the phone. I'm using i o s 5.1.1. Thanks. Shane On 5/31/2012 5:13 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: Hi, if you jailbreak your iPhone, it cannot be serviced. Also, if you jailbreak your iPhone, and call for tech support and mention that it's jailbroken, they probably won't help you. However if you jailbreak your iPhone and ever have to have it serviced, a restore of the software will remove the jailbreak. All that being said, there are 2 apps which come to mind which might fit the bill for you. 1. Filer. This app doesn't require a jailbreak. It allows you to upload files, such as music, documents, or whatever to the iPhone. Then from the app, you can manage or do whatever with these files, i.e. open them in other applications, ETC. If you just tap the music files you upload, you can listen to the music that way. However this isn't the same experience as using the built-in Music app of the iPhone. Basically, everything you upload to Filer will stay in Filer, but no jailbreak is necessary. 2. PWN Tunes. This is a jailbreak only app. Basically when you connect your iPhone to the pc, you can go to sever folders inside it, just like a usb stick. One of these folders is called "my music" and if you copy music there, you can later listen to it from the iPhone Music player. When you want to remove it, just connect it to the pc again and remove it from that same folder and it will be gone from the music player. Good luck. -- Raul A. Gallegos I'm not 50. I'm $49.95 plus tax. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/31/2012 3:14 AM, Shane Christenson wrote: Hey folks. I'd like to be able to transfer info and other stuff between my IPhone 4 s and my pc. without using itunes. i'd like to avoid jail-breaking my phone, because i don't know what I might do if I did. i still need to be able to perform updates and so forth, and I have the apple care protection plan for the phone. if jail breaking the phone won't void any of this, I'd be willing to try it, but if it's best not to jail-break, I'd like some way of transferring stuff between phone and pc without itunes. Anyone's thoughts on this are most welcome. Shane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: typing on the phone
Hi, I think the single most helpful change the TypeInBraille folks could implement is consistency between one of the braille codes and their choice for punctuation symbols in the app. For example, the 2-5 for colon comes from Grade 2 as does the comma. The 2-5-6 used to create a slash character is actually the grade 2 period while the dots 4-6 Shift character was originally used I believe for italics. The dot 6 capital sign, the 2-5-6 period, the 3-4 slash etc. would make typing so much faster. The other alternative would be to use the traditional computer braille symbols i.e. 1-5-6 for a colon 4-6 for a period etc. but they are more than halfway there as far as already using grade 2 punctuation so it would seem that just changing a few things would be simpler than adopting Computer braille's punctuation symbols. Great work on the app, great demo by David. Jon -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Harris Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: typing on the phone It has its own rotor, though this is something I would like them to fix. But the TIB (TypeInBraille) rotor has 3 options:- insert, navigate, select. Just twist the rotor to the one you need. Hope you get the right rotor or VO will send you up the wall saying characters, words, headers, language,... and so on. So bear with it, the modes are good when you get at them. Remember to twist it back to insert to write some more, including the corrections. - Original Message - From: "Jane" To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:56 AM Subject: Re: typing on the phone How do you edit? I have managed to delete mistakes as i catch them, but what if I made a mistake a sentence back and want to fix it? How do I go back word by word or character by character, and then how do I fix it? Jane On May 30, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Sandy Finley wrote: > Kim, I downloaded this app. I had the same impression as you but as I > worked with it more I began to see that it really is not as labor > intensive as I thought. I don't think that the online demo is as > effective as it could have been. > > First off you have to turn the Braille cell on its side. Don't think > of it as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6; rather, 1, 4; 2, 5; 3, 6. You need to tell > the app what you want to do with all three of those rows for each > letter. > A one-finger tap in a row says you want one dot; two fingers says two > dots in that row and a three-finger tap says no dots in that row. So > the way he describes A initially is: > 1 one-finger tap for the top row > One three-finger tap for the second row One three-finger tap for the > third. > > But all you really need to do is the one one-finger tap and then flick > one finger to the right. This gesture tells Type-In-Braille that you > are done with that character. This speeds you up considerably. > B is two one-finger taps followed by a one-finger right flick. > C is a two-finger tap, just like a Braille c, followed by the right flick. > > It takes some practice; K, for instance, is tricky. But I also like > the way I can edit in it, going back and forth, one letter or word at > a time. It tells me what I am deleting, unlike VO on the phone keypad. > > Type-InBraille is meant only for typing text which is then selected > and copied into something else, like an e-mail or Facebook. You cannot > do e-mail addresses or type in search boxes. > > > I am so far finding this faster than typing on the keypad on the phone. > > Sorry for this long explanation; HTH. > > Sandy > > C is tapping two fingers at the same time for the top row (just like a > C) followed by a one-finger flick right. From: > viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Kimber Gardner > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 4:57 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: typing on the phone > > I'd like to hear from people who are using this app. I was intrigued > when I read the description, but after listening to the demo,my > initial impression is that it's a rather labor-intensive way of > inputting text. > > Anyone have any real-world feedback to share? > > Kimber > > On 5/29/12, EWTEch Accessibility wrote: >> Hi everybody, >> >> we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the >> developers of TypeInBraille app. >> We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider >> it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. >> >> For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: >> http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille >> >> Thank you >> >> >> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers >> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you >>> described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did >>> well at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately >>> though, I seem to be missing th
Re: IOS development
Hi Jan, Thanks for your reply. Yes, I am the windows and unix C++ developer for 20 years and now would like to try IOS development. I understand, XCode is only tool for developing and building applications for IOS, my concern is the interface builder as you mentioned. I got several books about IOS development, however all of them are using the interface builder as a tool to build the user interface. I was looking for the information, how to create the user interface in the code itself, without using the interface builder. So, that development Apple page, which you refer below will give the documentations, how to build user interface without the Interface Builder? I'll definitely check that! Many thanks for your help. All the best. Igor. Jan Blüher wrote: > Hallo Igor, > > Xcode is the only tool you can use for iOS development. there is no way > around. However, Xcode is quite accessible and blind people can use it, as I > do. > > The thing that is not accessible is the so-called Interface Builder, with > which you can click and drag your user interface. But this is no problem. > Everything can be done programmatically. There is a lot of documentation on > Apple's developer portal at http://developer.apple.com . It is very covering > and accessible. You have to register as an developer (for free) to get access. > > Do you have some experiences in programming? > > Greetings > > Jan > > --- > ColorVisor - The app to identify colors. > Now available on the iTunes App Store: > http://itunes.apple.com/de/app/colorvisor/id511093568?mt=8&ls=1 > --- > Dr. Jan Blüher > visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone > Bayreuther Str. 2 > D-01187 Dresden > Germany > > phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907 > mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242 > e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com > web: http://visorApps.com > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps > > tax number: DE281706766 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: IOS development
Wouldn't this command line thing be a lot like blind guys trying CAD? What I mean is that I've been retyping these tutorials for a work experience with a job coach, and CAD is a mix of gui and command line, and I don't get conceptually what the tutorials are coming to as their end result. - Original Message - From: Jan Blüher To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:45 AM Subject: Re: IOS development Hallo Rob and Igor, here comes the link to the Apple developer registration page, where you can read more about the things you will have access to: https://developer.apple.com/programs/register/ Good luck Jan --- ColorVisor - The app to identify colors. Available on the App Store: http://itunes.com/app/ColorVisor --- Dr. Jan Blüher visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone Bayreuther Str. 2 D-01187 Dresden Germany phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907 mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242 e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com web: http://visorApps.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps tax number: DE281706766 Am 31.05.2012 um 14:31 schrieb Rob Harris: This is something I'd like, not done programming for a while, but did a degree in the stuff using a range of languages at the time. so how do we join this club? happy to hear we can type our own way without all the visual-blah mentality! Thanks, RobH. - Original Message - From: "Jan Blüher" To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:20 PM Subject: Re: IOS development Hallo Igor, Xcode is the only tool you can use for iOS development. there is no way around. However, Xcode is quite accessible and blind people can use it, as I do. The thing that is not accessible is the so-called Interface Builder, with which you can click and drag your user interface. But this is no problem. Everything can be done programmatically. There is a lot of documentation on Apple's developer portal at http://developer.apple.com . It is very covering and accessible. You have to register as an developer (for free) to get access. Do you have some experiences in programming? Greetings Jan --- ColorVisor - The app to identify colors. Now available on the iTunes App Store: http://itunes.apple.com/de/app/colorvisor/id511093568?mt=8&ls=1 --- Dr. Jan Blüher visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone Bayreuther Str. 2 D-01187 Dresden Germany phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907 mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242 e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com web: http://visorApps.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps tax number: DE281706766 Am 31.05.2012 um 13:24 schrieb Igor Kaplan: Hi dear listers, I believe, we have some blind IOS developers on this list, so would like to ask some questions as a very beginner IOS developer. I believe, the part of XCode which builds the user interface is not accessible, at least it is rather complex to use it with VoiceOver. I wander, is there a good documentation, how to create and use IOS controls, such as buttons, Text boxes and so on by code instead of using the XCode? I am probably not using the correct terminology here, I am windows developer just starting with IOS. I have looked at several books about IOS developments, however all of them are talking about using XCode while building the User interface. So far I am not able to find the documentation, which would give me a good reference, how to do the controls layout by code. Would so much appreciate, if someone could please point me to such resource. Many thanks and have a wonderful day! Igor. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are sub
Re: papa sangre brag for useless but cool achievement :)
Congratulations. It was very disorienting for me to try that. I gave up after several attempts. :) Teresa On May 30, 2012, at 5:12 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: > HI all, > > Just curious if anyone has tried this in Papa sangre. > I managed to save the siren in level 23 I think (the one with the ice lake). > Did not get any credit from Papa or anyone in the game but was fun to make it > with her singing in my ears. > > Thought I'd share! > > Smile, > > Ioana > > Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online > stores. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture
Hi, I have watched many people having inconsistent results using the rotor and I myself have not had the silly thing act the same way from session to session. Now maybe it's something with the callouses on my abused fingers but for whatever reason, I have not found rotoring to be to my liking, until today! I was wondering first of all how much spacing between the fingers was possible and apparently the answer is, a lot. What I have found most useful now, and this does work on any of the phone's edges so that portrait or landscape modes shouldn't affect this methid, is to use two fingers near the edges of the screen. Pretend the phone has a set of railroad tracks on it and that each of your fingers represents a traing going in the opposite direction. As long as both fingers move, the gesture seems to be picked up consistently. I just tried this way of changing rotor settings with a person who swore that rotoring was never going to be a useful gesture because of the frustration it seems to bring to many novice IOS/VO users and the result was that all of the rotor's settings changed correctly on the first and every try. So maybe some folks want to give this method a try and hopefully the results will be as rewarding as they have been here so far. Now I may have to try that pinching gesture folks talk about next. Jon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: iPad and Braille Pen slim
Did you contact the manufacturer to find out? Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fanus Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 10:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iPad and Braille Pen slim Hello listers Is it really true that Braille Pen slim can not connect to the first generation iPad? Regards Fanus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture
I'll try it, I tried previous suggestion making sure the app knew it was in control, but for sure using the wider rotor might have mileage. Ok, tried it; I ocnclude both elements need to be done for consistency. The first touch of the typing screen doesn't produce a dot, it just ensures the app is focussed. RobH@Home. - Original Message - From: "Jon Pierson" To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:52 PM Subject: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture Hi, I have watched many people having inconsistent results using the rotor and I myself have not had the silly thing act the same way from session to session. Now maybe it's something with the callouses on my abused fingers but for whatever reason, I have not found rotoring to be to my liking, until today! I was wondering first of all how much spacing between the fingers was possible and apparently the answer is, a lot. What I have found most useful now, and this does work on any of the phone's edges so that portrait or landscape modes shouldn't affect this methid, is to use two fingers near the edges of the screen. Pretend the phone has a set of railroad tracks on it and that each of your fingers represents a traing going in the opposite direction. As long as both fingers move, the gesture seems to be picked up consistently. I just tried this way of changing rotor settings with a person who swore that rotoring was never going to be a useful gesture because of the frustration it seems to bring to many novice IOS/VO users and the result was that all of the rotor's settings changed correctly on the first and every try. So maybe some folks want to give this method a try and hopefully the results will be as rewarding as they have been here so far. Now I may have to try that pinching gesture folks talk about next. Jon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: YouVersion Question
When you get to bookmarks, if you flick around, there is a title text field. Hope this helps, Jenn To the world you are someone but to someone you are the world! On May 31, 2012, at 7:49 AM, Carol Pearson wrote: > I'll ask my friend if she can work it out as she has enough vision to see > what I sometimes miss. > > -- > Carol P > Original Message > From: "Sarai Bucciarelli" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:45 AM > Subject: Re: YouVersion Question > >> Hi: >> I'm not sure about the labeling of Bookmarks, and how >> that works. Thanks for the help. >> >> On May 30, 2012, at 2:42 PM, Carol Pearson wrote: >> >>> To be honest, a partially sighted friend alerted me to >>> it and, once there and she had explained that you had to >>> double tap the verses to select them, I was away! >>> >>> I'm still not totally clear about the Notes edit boxes >>> so may get her to take a look at that. >>> >>> -- >>> Carol P >>> Original Message >>> From: "Sarai Bucciarelli" >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 2:29 PM >>> Subject: Re: YouVersion Question >>> Hi: Thank you! That did it. Man. How did you find that action button? I looked everywhere! Will my bookmarks be transferred to my iPad too? On May 29, 2012, at 4:50 AM, Carol Pearson wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > Sorry, haven't time to give detailed instructions now > ... but I think you'll catch on if I start you off: > > 1)Double Tap each verse you want to include; > 2Locate a rather small button on the bottom right > edge which says "Action". > > From there you follow your nose and it's necessary to > swipe all the way to the left to get a feel of what you > can do there ... > > Any more questions when you've played a little, do come > back and I'll do my best to give some more detailed > explanations if I can. > > -- > Carol P - Just off out now and busy day ahead! > > > Original Message > From: "Sarai Bucciarelli" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 5:00 PM > Subject: YouVersion Question > >> Hi: >> How do you create notes and Bookmarks with Youversion? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed >> to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone >> public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to >> viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this >> group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more >> options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to > the "VIPhone" Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to > viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to >>> the "VIPhone" Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to >> the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public >> archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To >> post to this group, send email to >> viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, >> visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Re: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture
The roter seems to be my biggest problem with VO whether on the phone or the MacAir. I have never been able to get it to behave consistently. Given John's suggestion, I came up with a method that appears to be working for me. Rather than using two fingers on the same hand, I use both index fingers and move them in opposite directions. It's based on John's idea but requires both hands and so may not be suitable for everyone. K On 5/31/12, Rob Harris wrote: > I'll try it, I tried previous suggestion making sure the app knew it was in > > control, but for sure using the wider rotor might have mileage. > > Ok, tried it; I ocnclude both elements need to be done for consistency. The > > first touch of the typing screen doesn't produce a dot, it just ensures the > > app is focussed. > > RobH@Home. > - Original Message - > From: "Jon Pierson" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:52 PM > Subject: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture > > > Hi, > I have watched many people having inconsistent results using the rotor and > I > myself have not had the silly thing act the same way from session to > session. Now maybe it's something with the callouses on my abused fingers > but for whatever reason, I have not found rotoring to be to my liking, > until > today! > > I was wondering first of all how much spacing between the fingers was > possible and apparently the answer is, a lot. > > What I have found most useful now, and this does work on any of the phone's > edges so that portrait or landscape modes shouldn't affect this methid, is > to use two fingers near the edges of the screen. Pretend the phone has a > set > of railroad tracks on it and that each of your fingers represents a traing > going in the opposite direction. > As long as both fingers move, the gesture seems to be picked up > consistently. > > I just tried this way of changing rotor settings with a person who swore > that rotoring was never going to be a useful gesture because of the > frustration it seems to bring to many novice IOS/VO users and the result > was > that all of the rotor's settings changed correctly on the first and every > try. > > So maybe some folks want to give this method a try and hopefully the > results > will be as rewarding as they have been here so far. > Now I may have to try that pinching gesture folks talk about next. > > Jon > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > -- Kimberly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture
I can't say I've had nearly the trouble expressed by others on this list with this gesture. I often use a nob twisting motion with my thumb and index or middle finger or simply plant my index finger somewhere on the screen and use my middle finger to swipe somewhere else on the screen and generate the rotor action that way. I'll also just plant my index finger and place my middle finger on another part of the screen and rotate my wrist to cycle through the various options in a faster manner. That or just plant both fingers separated on the screen and rotate the phone while leaving my fingers locked in position. It all depends on how I'm positioned in relation to the phone. Sitting, stretched out on the couch, reclined in bed etc. I think I probably have more difficulty with the four finger tap for getting to the top or bottom of the screen. That's more a function of my big mits and the narrowness of the iPhone though I imagine. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture The roter seems to be my biggest problem with VO whether on the phone or the MacAir. I have never been able to get it to behave consistently. Given John's suggestion, I came up with a method that appears to be working for me. Rather than using two fingers on the same hand, I use both index fingers and move them in opposite directions. It's based on John's idea but requires both hands and so may not be suitable for everyone. K On 5/31/12, Rob Harris wrote: > I'll try it, I tried previous suggestion making sure the app knew it > was in > > control, but for sure using the wider rotor might have mileage. > > Ok, tried it; I ocnclude both elements need to be done for > consistency. The > > first touch of the typing screen doesn't produce a dot, it just > ensures the > > app is focussed. > > RobH@Home. > - Original Message - > From: "Jon Pierson" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:52 PM > Subject: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture > > > Hi, > I have watched many people having inconsistent results using the rotor > and I myself have not had the silly thing act the same way from > session to session. Now maybe it's something with the callouses on my > abused fingers but for whatever reason, I have not found rotoring to > be to my liking, until today! > > I was wondering first of all how much spacing between the fingers was > possible and apparently the answer is, a lot. > > What I have found most useful now, and this does work on any of the > phone's edges so that portrait or landscape modes shouldn't affect > this methid, is to use two fingers near the edges of the screen. > Pretend the phone has a set of railroad tracks on it and that each of > your fingers represents a traing going in the opposite direction. > As long as both fingers move, the gesture seems to be picked up > consistently. > > I just tried this way of changing rotor settings with a person who > swore that rotoring was never going to be a useful gesture because of > the frustration it seems to bring to many novice IOS/VO users and the > result was that all of the rotor's settings changed correctly on the > first and every try. > > So maybe some folks want to give this method a try and hopefully the > results will be as rewarding as they have been here so far. > Now I may have to try that pinching gesture folks talk about next. > > Jon > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google > > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > -- Kimberly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhon
RE: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture
Amen! I have no trouble with the roter but can't do the 4 finger tap worth a darn. Kim -Original Message- From: Cristobal [mailto:crismuno...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture I can't say I've had nearly the trouble expressed by others on this list with this gesture. I often use a nob twisting motion with my thumb and index or middle finger or simply plant my index finger somewhere on the screen and use my middle finger to swipe somewhere else on the screen and generate the rotor action that way. I'll also just plant my index finger and place my middle finger on another part of the screen and rotate my wrist to cycle through the various options in a faster manner. That or just plant both fingers separated on the screen and rotate the phone while leaving my fingers locked in position. It all depends on how I'm positioned in relation to the phone. Sitting, stretched out on the couch, reclined in bed etc. I think I probably have more difficulty with the four finger tap for getting to the top or bottom of the screen. That's more a function of my big mits and the narrowness of the iPhone though I imagine. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture The roter seems to be my biggest problem with VO whether on the phone or the MacAir. I have never been able to get it to behave consistently. Given John's suggestion, I came up with a method that appears to be working for me. Rather than using two fingers on the same hand, I use both index fingers and move them in opposite directions. It's based on John's idea but requires both hands and so may not be suitable for everyone. K On 5/31/12, Rob Harris wrote: > I'll try it, I tried previous suggestion making sure the app knew it > was in > > control, but for sure using the wider rotor might have mileage. > > Ok, tried it; I ocnclude both elements need to be done for > consistency. The > > first touch of the typing screen doesn't produce a dot, it just > ensures the > > app is focussed. > > RobH@Home. > - Original Message - > From: "Jon Pierson" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:52 PM > Subject: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture > > > Hi, > I have watched many people having inconsistent results using the rotor > and I myself have not had the silly thing act the same way from > session to session. Now maybe it's something with the callouses on my > abused fingers but for whatever reason, I have not found rotoring to > be to my liking, until today! > > I was wondering first of all how much spacing between the fingers was > possible and apparently the answer is, a lot. > > What I have found most useful now, and this does work on any of the > phone's edges so that portrait or landscape modes shouldn't affect > this methid, is to use two fingers near the edges of the screen. > Pretend the phone has a set of railroad tracks on it and that each of > your fingers represents a traing going in the opposite direction. > As long as both fingers move, the gesture seems to be picked up > consistently. > > I just tried this way of changing rotor settings with a person who > swore that rotoring was never going to be a useful gesture because of > the frustration it seems to bring to many novice IOS/VO users and the > result was that all of the rotor's settings changed correctly on the > first and every try. > > So maybe some folks want to give this method a try and hopefully the > results will be as rewarding as they have been here so far. > Now I may have to try that pinching gesture folks talk about next. > > Jon > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google > > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > -- Kimberly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegr
Re: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture
I, too, use the knob twisting method, and I have excellent success with the rotor. Thanks for these excellent alternative methods, Cristobal. Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2012, at 12:09 PM, "Cristobal" wrote: > I can't say I've had nearly the trouble expressed by others on this list > with this gesture. > I often use a nob twisting motion with my thumb and index or middle finger > or simply plant my index finger somewhere on the screen and use my middle > finger to swipe somewhere else on the screen and generate the rotor action > that way. I'll also just plant my index finger and place my middle finger on > another part of the screen and rotate my wrist to cycle through the various > options in a faster manner. That or just plant both fingers separated on the > screen and rotate the phone while leaving my fingers locked in position. It > all depends on how I'm positioned in relation to the phone. Sitting, > stretched out on the couch, reclined in bed etc. > > I think I probably have more difficulty with the four finger tap for getting > to the top or bottom of the screen. That's more a function of my big mits > and the narrowness of the iPhone though I imagine. > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Kimber Gardner > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:58 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture > > The roter seems to be my biggest problem with VO whether on the phone or the > MacAir. I have never been able to get it to behave consistently. Given > John's suggestion, I came up with a method that appears to be working for > me. Rather than using two fingers on the same hand, I use both index fingers > and move them in opposite directions. It's based on John's idea but requires > both hands and so may not be suitable for everyone. > > K > > On 5/31/12, Rob Harris wrote: >> I'll try it, I tried previous suggestion making sure the app knew it >> was in >> >> control, but for sure using the wider rotor might have mileage. >> >> Ok, tried it; I ocnclude both elements need to be done for >> consistency. The >> >> first touch of the typing screen doesn't produce a dot, it just >> ensures the >> >> app is focussed. >> >> RobH@Home. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jon Pierson" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:52 PM >> Subject: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture >> >> >> Hi, >> I have watched many people having inconsistent results using the rotor >> and I myself have not had the silly thing act the same way from >> session to session. Now maybe it's something with the callouses on my >> abused fingers but for whatever reason, I have not found rotoring to >> be to my liking, until today! >> >> I was wondering first of all how much spacing between the fingers was >> possible and apparently the answer is, a lot. >> >> What I have found most useful now, and this does work on any of the >> phone's edges so that portrait or landscape modes shouldn't affect >> this methid, is to use two fingers near the edges of the screen. >> Pretend the phone has a set of railroad tracks on it and that each of >> your fingers represents a traing going in the opposite direction. >> As long as both fingers move, the gesture seems to be picked up >> consistently. >> >> I just tried this way of changing rotor settings with a person who >> swore that rotoring was never going to be a useful gesture because of >> the frustration it seems to bring to many novice IOS/VO users and the >> result was that all of the rotor's settings changed correctly on the >> first and every try. >> >> So maybe some folks want to give this method a try and hopefully the >> results will be as rewarding as they have been here so far. >> Now I may have to try that pinching gesture folks talk about next. >> >> Jon >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google >> >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> > > > -- > Kimberly > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > htt
emodicons in text messaging and twitter
I am looking for help with entering emodicons in twitter and text messaging but don't know where to find the ascii codes for them. What do you guys do for entering things like smiley faces and thumbs up symbols? When I googled this question, I was getting confusing information and didn't know where to turn so I figured I would give this group a try. Thanks so much Marco -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: emodicons in text messaging and twitter
Hi Marco, You can google a list of emoticons which can be typed from the standard keyboard using for example v for shouting and so on which can take quite a bit of time since you would need to switch between letters, numbers and more symbols. An easier way is to enable the Emogy keyboard, more info can be found at: iOS: Understanding emoji http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4976 Jon -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marco Migotti Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:39 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: emodicons in text messaging and twitter I am looking for help with entering emodicons in twitter and text messaging but don't know where to find the ascii codes for them. What do you guys do for entering things like smiley faces and thumbs up symbols? When I googled this question, I was getting confusing information and didn't know where to turn so I figured I would give this group a try. Thanks so much Marco -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Question about The Night Jar
Hi all, I was wondering if anyone else is having issues with crashes while trying to play The Night Jar on iOS 5.1.1. I live in the US, but was able to get assistance to play from someone in the UK, but am curious... Were there any updates recently to fix these issues, or is this just an isolated issue that only I am experiencing? I'd appreciate any feedback that you can give me. Thanks, Megan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: emodicons in text messaging and twitter
Hi, you can actually add an emoji keyboard to your IOS devices on screen keyboard. go to settings/general/international/keyboards. In here, double tap on add new keyboard. Select Emoji. Now, you will find a button to switch to Emojis on the left side of the space bar. Directly to the right of the more numbers button. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On May 31, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Marco Migotti wrote: > I am looking for help with entering emodicons in twitter and text messaging > but don’t know where to find the ascii codes for them. What do you guys do > for entering things like smiley faces and thumbs up symbols? > When I googled this question, I was getting confusing information and didn’t > know where to turn so I figured I would give this group a try. > > Thanks so much > > Marco > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Sendero's gps Adventure package question.
Jim, Just to answer your question, it can be used with an external blue tooth receiver. we sell the identical system here in the UK, and for any of our supported regions. Canada, Turkey, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa etc. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 24 May 2012, at 02:24, Andy Baracco wrote: > Or just go to www.senderogroup.com > > Andy > > > -Original Message- From: Raul A. Gallegos > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 6:07 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Sendero's gps Adventure package question. > > Ah ok, then it's probably best asked about on Sendero's own GPS list. > Thanks for letting me know. For a bit there I thought it was the new iOS > app they've been hinting at. . > > -- > Raul A. Gallegos > "A committee is a group of people who individually can do nothing but > together can decide that nothing can be done." - Fred Allen > Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com > Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 > Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 > > On 5/23/2012 8:22 AM, Andy Baracco wrote: >> No! >> >> It is basically an old HTC phone running Windows Mobile 6.5 with an >> internal GPS receiver and the Sendero software. Oh! it also has a >> version of mobile Speak. obviously, it can also be used as a phone, even >> though it is not pitched that way. >> >> Andy >> >> >> -Original Message- From: Raul A. Gallegos >> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:47 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Sendero's gps Adventure package question. >> >> Is this an iOS solution? >> >> -- >> Raul A. Gallegos >> Always go to other people's funerals, otherwise they won't come to >> yours. - Yogi Berra >> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com >> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 >> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 >> >> On 5/23/2012 7:17 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>> Hi Folks: >>> >>> Is anyone on this list using the Sendero Adventure GPS system? If so, how >>> so? Can one use an external GPS receiver with the phone that comes >>> with that >>> package? >>> >>> Thanks all over the place gang. >>> >>> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: emodicons in text messaging and twitter
Heyya Marco: As suggested. I have added the emoji keyboard for usage on my iPhone. However I use this page when I happen to need them on my computer. Give this a shot & see if this is what you're looking for. http://www.wikihow.com/Type-Emoticons - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 14:33 Subject: Re: emodicons in text messaging and twitter Hi, you can actually add an emoji keyboard to your IOS devices on screen keyboard. go to settings/general/international/keyboards. In here, double tap on add new keyboard. Select Emoji. Now, you will find a button to switch to Emojis on the left side of the space bar. Directly to the right of the more numbers button. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On May 31, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Marco Migotti wrote: I am looking for help with entering emodicons in twitter and text messaging but don’t know where to find the ascii codes for them. What do you guys do for entering things like smiley faces and thumbs up symbols? When I googled this question, I was getting confusing information and didn’t know where to turn so I figured I would give this group a try. Thanks so much Marco -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
app: ariadne?
Ok, got it; fascinating! Could someone point me at instructions, can't find anything in it. Any recommendations of the best way to navigate or explore the maps? I was getting confusing results, my geography isn't as bad as that. Thanks, RobH. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: emodicons in text messaging and twitter
They used to be written sideways using punctuation like : for eyes, ; for a wink, ) for a smile, ( for a scowl, B for glasses, O for yawn, D for big gob smile; and tons of other things. I don't think they got assigned to ascii codes, not the 255 I learned in DOS at least. I owuld know how to enter and ascii code nowi f I wanted to. I know how it used to work, but screen readers and G knows what have taken over most the useful things. - Original Message - From: "Marco Migotti" To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:38 PM Subject: emodicons in text messaging and twitter I am looking for help with entering emodicons in twitter and text messaging but don't know where to find the ascii codes for them. What do you guys do for entering things like smiley faces and thumbs up symbols? When I googled this question, I was getting confusing information and didn't know where to turn so I figured I would give this group a try. Thanks so much Marco -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: IOS development
Hi Igor, on the Apple developer site, you can find a sample app called UICatalog which shows all of the possible UI controls created purely in code without Interface Builder. You can also do a Google search for coding tutorials in Objective C and XCode which should yield some results to show you how to start off with XCode without relying completely on IB. There are actually sighted devs who prefer code over IB, and certain behaviors of controls are only possible in code. So the material is out there. HTH! Smiles, Cara :) On May 31, 2012, at 7:40 AM, igor_kaplan wrote: Hi Jan, Thanks for your reply. Yes, I am the windows and unix C++ developer for 20 years and now would like to try IOS development. I understand, XCode is only tool for developing and building applications for IOS, my concern is the interface builder as you mentioned. I got several books about IOS development, however all of them are using the interface builder as a tool to build the user interface. I was looking for the information, how to create the user interface in the code itself, without using the interface builder. So, that development Apple page, which you refer below will give the documentations, how to build user interface without the Interface Builder? I'll definitely check that! Many thanks for your help. All the best. Igor. Jan Blüher wrote: > Hallo Igor, > > Xcode is the only tool you can use for iOS development. there is no way > around. However, Xcode is quite accessible and blind people can use it, as I > do. > > The thing that is not accessible is the so-called Interface Builder, with > which you can click and drag your user interface. But this is no problem. > Everything can be done programmatically. There is a lot of documentation on > Apple's developer portal at http://developer.apple.com . It is very covering > and accessible. You have to register as an developer (for free) to get access. > > Do you have some experiences in programming? > > Greetings > > Jan > > --- > ColorVisor - The app to identify colors. > Now available on the iTunes App Store: > http://itunes.apple.com/de/app/colorvisor/id511093568?mt=8&ls=1 > --- > Dr. Jan Blüher > visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone > Bayreuther Str. 2 > D-01187 Dresden > Germany > > phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907 > mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242 > e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com > web: http://visorApps.com > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps > > tax number: DE281706766 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Deleting Photos
I've taken a few odd snapshots with my iPod. How do I delete the ones i dont want? I can't seem to figure it out. I thought I could sync them to the computer, but I'm not sure wher to look for them. Just want to save space on this thing. Jane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: IOS development
Hallo Igor, I just took a look at the Apple documentation from the point of view of a beginner. I have to admit that most of the introduction articles do also rely on Interface Builder. Sample code is everywhere, but not arranged that straight forward. You will have to search a bit for. At least, I can recommend an introduction to Objective-C called The Objective-C Programming Language and where you can find sample code. If you are used to C++, you should have no problems with it. Indeed, is is possible to write apps in C++, however, you will need Objective-C for the Cocoa Touch Framework anyway. Greetings Jan --- ColorVisor - The app to identify colors. Available on the App Store: http://itunes.com/app/ColorVisor --- Dr. Jan Blüher visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone Bayreuther Str. 2 D-01187 Dresden Germany phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907 mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242 e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com web: http://visorApps.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps tax number: DE281706766 Am 31.05.2012 um 16:40 schrieb igor_kaplan: > Hi Jan, > > Thanks for your reply. Yes, I am the windows and unix C++ developer > for 20 years and now would like to try IOS development. > I understand, XCode is only tool for developing and building > applications for IOS, my concern is the interface builder as you > mentioned. I got several books about IOS development, however all of > them are using the interface builder as a tool to build the user > interface. > > I was looking for the information, how to create the user interface > in the code itself, without using the interface builder. > So, that development Apple page, which you refer below will give the > documentations, how to build user interface without the Interface > Builder? I'll definitely check that! > > Many thanks for your help. > > All the best. > > Igor. > > Jan Blüher wrote: >> Hallo Igor, >> >> Xcode is the only tool you can use for iOS development. there is no way >> around. However, Xcode is quite accessible and blind people can use it, as I >> do. >> >> The thing that is not accessible is the so-called Interface Builder, with >> which you can click and drag your user interface. But this is no problem. >> Everything can be done programmatically. There is a lot of documentation on >> Apple's developer portal at http://developer.apple.com . It is very covering >> and accessible. You have to register as an developer (for free) to get >> access. >> >> Do you have some experiences in programming? >> >> Greetings >> >> Jan >> >> --- >> ColorVisor - The app to identify colors. >> Now available on the iTunes App Store: >> http://itunes.apple.com/de/app/colorvisor/id511093568?mt=8&ls=1 >> --- >> Dr. Jan Blüher >> visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone >> Bayreuther Str. 2 >> D-01187 Dresden >> Germany >> >> phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907 >> mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242 >> e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com >> web: http://visorApps.com >> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps >> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps >> >> tax number: DE281706766 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: IOS development
Hallo Brent, an user interface of an iOS app is not as complex as an CAD model, however, you need a bit imagination what happens on the screen. If you use prepared structures from Apple, such as table views or tool bars, this is quite easy. If you create a free-style UI, it is strongly recommended to let it check by sighted people. In case of the ColorVisor, I let a designer do the layout and some graphics. The layout, then, told me where to place the buttons and views. Greetings Jan --- ColorVisor - The app to identify colors. Available on the App Store: http://itunes.com/app/ColorVisor --- Dr. Jan Blüher visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone Bayreuther Str. 2 D-01187 Dresden Germany phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907 mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242 e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com web: http://visorApps.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps tax number: DE281706766 Am 31.05.2012 um 16:41 schrieb Brent Harding: > Wouldn't this command line thing be a lot like blind guys trying CAD? What I > mean is that I've been retyping these tutorials for a work experience with a > job coach, and CAD is a mix of gui and command line, and I don't get > conceptually what the tutorials are coming to as their end result. > > - Original Message - > From: Jan Blüher > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:45 AM > Subject: Re: IOS development > > Hallo Rob and Igor, > > here comes the link to the Apple developer registration page, where you can > read more about the things you will have access to: > > https://developer.apple.com/programs/register/ > > Good luck > > Jan > > --- > ColorVisor - The app to identify colors. > Available on the App Store: > http://itunes.com/app/ColorVisor > --- > Dr. Jan Blüher > visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone > Bayreuther Str. 2 > D-01187 Dresden > Germany > > phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907 > mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242 > e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com > web: http://visorApps.com > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps > > tax number: DE281706766 > > > > > > Am 31.05.2012 um 14:31 schrieb Rob Harris: > >> This is something I'd like, not done programming for a while, but did a >> degree in the stuff using a range of languages at the time. so how do we >> join this club? happy to hear we can type our own way without all the >> visual-blah mentality! >> >> Thanks, RobH. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jan Blüher" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:20 PM >> Subject: Re: IOS development >> >> >> Hallo Igor, >> >> Xcode is the only tool you can use for iOS development. there is no way >> around. However, Xcode is quite accessible and blind people can use it, as I >> do. >> >> The thing that is not accessible is the so-called Interface Builder, with >> which you can click and drag your user interface. But this is no problem. >> Everything can be done programmatically. There is a lot of documentation on >> Apple's developer portal at http://developer.apple.com . It is very covering >> and accessible. You have to register as an developer (for free) to get >> access. >> >> Do you have some experiences in programming? >> >> Greetings >> >> Jan >> >> --- >> ColorVisor - The app to identify colors. >> Now available on the iTunes App Store: >> http://itunes.apple.com/de/app/colorvisor/id511093568?mt=8&ls=1 >> --- >> Dr. Jan Blüher >> visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone >> Bayreuther Str. 2 >> D-01187 Dresden >> Germany >> >> phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907 >> mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242 >> e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com >> web: http://visorApps.com >> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps >> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps >> >> tax number: DE281706766 >> >> >> >> >> Am 31.05.2012 um 13:24 schrieb Igor Kaplan: >> >>> Hi dear listers, >>> >>> I believe, we have some blind IOS developers on this list, so would like >>> to ask some questions as a very beginner IOS developer. >>> I believe, the part of XCode which builds the user interface is not >>> accessible, at least it is rather complex to use it with VoiceOver. >>> I wander, is there a good documentation, how to create and use IOS >>> controls, such as buttons, Text boxes and so on by code instead of using >>> the XCode? >>> I am probably not using the correct terminology here, I am windows >>> developer just starting with IOS. >>> I have looked at several books about IOS developments, however all of >>> them are talking about using XCode while building the User interface. So >>> far I am not able to find the documentation, which would give me a good >>> reference, how to do the controls layout by code. >>> Would so much appreciate, if someone could please point me to such >>> resource. >>> >>> Many thanks and have a wonderful day! >>> >>>Igor. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this mes
Re: emodicons in text messaging and twitter
Just remember that the emoticons entered via the additional iOS keyboard will not work if sent to non supported device😄🐶 Sent from my iPhone On 01/06/2012, at 5:41 AM, "Sean Paul" wrote: Heyya Marco: As suggested. I have added the emoji keyboard for usage on my iPhone. However I use this page when I happen to need them on my computer. Give this a shot & see if this is what you're looking for. http://www.wikihow.com/Type-Emoticons - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 14:33 Subject: Re: emodicons in text messaging and twitter Hi, you can actually add an emoji keyboard to your IOS devices on screen keyboard. go to settings/general/international/keyboards. In here, double tap on add new keyboard. Select Emoji. Now, you will find a button to switch to Emojis on the left side of the space bar. Directly to the right of the more numbers button. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On May 31, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Marco Migotti wrote: > I am looking for help with entering emodicons in twitter and text messaging > but don’t know where to find the ascii codes for them. What do you guys do > for entering things like smiley faces and thumbs up symbols? > When I googled this question, I was getting confusing information and didn’t > know where to turn so I figured I would give this group a try. > > Thanks so much > > Marco > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Sendero's gps Adventure package question.
Neil: Thanks all over the place. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Sendero's gps Adventure package question. Jim, Just to answer your question, it can be used with an external blue tooth receiver. we sell the identical system here in the UK, and for any of our supported regions. Canada, Turkey, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa etc. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 24 May 2012, at 02:24, Andy Baracco wrote: > Or just go to www.senderogroup.com > > Andy > > > -Original Message- From: Raul A. Gallegos > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 6:07 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Sendero's gps Adventure package question. > > Ah ok, then it's probably best asked about on Sendero's own GPS list. > Thanks for letting me know. For a bit there I thought it was the new > iOS app they've been hinting at. . > > -- > Raul A. Gallegos > "A committee is a group of people who individually can do nothing but > together can decide that nothing can be done." - Fred Allen Home Page: > http://raulgallegos.com > Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 > Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 > > On 5/23/2012 8:22 AM, Andy Baracco wrote: >> No! >> >> It is basically an old HTC phone running Windows Mobile 6.5 with an >> internal GPS receiver and the Sendero software. Oh! it also has a >> version of mobile Speak. obviously, it can also be used as a phone, >> even though it is not pitched that way. >> >> Andy >> >> >> -Original Message- From: Raul A. Gallegos >> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:47 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Sendero's gps Adventure package question. >> >> Is this an iOS solution? >> >> -- >> Raul A. Gallegos >> Always go to other people's funerals, otherwise they won't come to >> yours. - Yogi Berra Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com >> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 >> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 >> >> On 5/23/2012 7:17 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>> Hi Folks: >>> >>> Is anyone on this list using the Sendero Adventure GPS system? If >>> so, how so? Can one use an external GPS receiver with the phone that >>> comes with that package? >>> >>> Thanks all over the place gang. >>> >>> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: emodicons in text messaging and twitter
Yes, this is the kind of emodicons that I was looking for. I had seen a thumbs up on a twitter post and wanted to be able to make use of that emodicon in my future posts. Marco -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sean Paul Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: emodicons in text messaging and twitter Heyya Marco: As suggested. I have added the emoji keyboard for usage on my iPhone. However I use this page when I happen to need them on my computer. Give this a shot & see if this is what you're looking for. http://www.wikihow.com/Type-Emoticons - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 14:33 Subject: Re: emodicons in text messaging and twitter Hi, you can actually add an emoji keyboard to your IOS devices on screen keyboard. go to settings/general/international/keyboards. In here, double tap on add new keyboard. Select Emoji. Now, you will find a button to switch to Emojis on the left side of the space bar. Directly to the right of the more numbers button. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On May 31, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Marco Migotti wrote: > I am looking for help with entering emodicons in twitter and text > messaging but don't know where to find the ascii codes for them. What do > you guys do for entering things like smiley faces and thumbs up symbols? > When I googled this question, I was getting confusing information and didn't > know where to turn so I figured I would give this group a try. > > Thanks so much > > Marco > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Force rebooting of iPhone - Was Re: is it normal
Hey Raul, I was a bit surprised by your reply since I clearly did state that not only do I not crash my springboard as was described, but I also wouldn't be inclined to recommend it (and it isn't a reset). However, I do think it's important for people to understand how resets work on their devices. Basically, if Apple set up the last-resort HOME+POWER for ten seconds reset to attempt to save your data and properly shut down the unit, then if your unit ever froze or was unresponsive, you would never be able to get it working again because there would be no reset that you could perform! To test this, get VoiceOver to begin reading a long passage of text, or else start playing some tunes, and then hold down the two keys. Absolutely nothing will happen for several seconds (hint: a built-in intentional delay) but very suddenly, everything will be silent as though the power were just cut to your device, and it will then go through the process of rebooting. It would be great if someone else could jump in and coroborate what I'm saying, but in any case I think it's great information to know. Anyways, here's one thing we all can agree on: your taglines are great! Grant On 5/31/12, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: > Grant, thanks for your informative message. I think we will just have to > agree to disagree rather than continuing to offer differing views. If I > cared more, I'd call Apple myself and/or go to an Apple store and do > more Internet searching, but I don't really other than just to say that > if I do have to reset my phone, I will do it in the way that I'm > comfortable with, just as you will with yours. > > Cheers. > > -- > Raul A. Gallegos > Needing someone is like needing a parachute. If he isn't there the first > time you need him, chances are you won't be needing him again! ~ Anonymous > Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com > Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 > Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 > > On 5/31/2012 6:41 AM, Grant Hardy wrote: >> Hey Raul, I think this will be the last time I chime in on this >> subject, but I'm afraid that's not correct - holding down power and >> home for ten to twelve seconds is a forcible reset and doesn't >> properly shut down anything. Think about it. If it did, then if there >> ever were a software flaw that prevented the phone from being shut >> down properly, this reset, intended for these very cases, would not >> work! The reason there is a delay is as a safety mechanism, so that >> you don't do the reset inadvertently. That does not mean it is >> shutting down/rebooting the phone officially. I assure you that it is >> not. >> >> I agree - pressing POWER five times to crash the springboard is not >> something I'd necessarily want to encourage. But at the same time, >> crashing your springboard will _not_ corrupt the internal workings of >> the phone - the springboard is simply a system service for launching >> apps. >> >> Again, a lot of the people offering the point of view opposite to mine >> do not really understand how things such as the forcible reset >> actually work. >> >> Grant >> >> On 5/31/12, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: >>> Hi all, I feel that what David and Neil have stated are more correct for >>> what it's worth. I personally have not looked up or researched whether >>> or not it's a good idea to force a reboot via the power button being >>> pressed multiple times, but on the surface it just seems silly and not >>> safe to me. At least when you do the power button/home button for 12 >>> seconds, it's giving the iOS system a chance to try and do what it can >>> so that files and data are not being accessed while the phone is forced >>> to reboot. This is why it's probably a several second process. >>> Additionally, it could be that it's on purpose so you don't accidentally >>> reboot your phone without meaning to. >>> >>> Lastly, folks, please update the subject lines. >>> >>> -- >>> Raul A. Gallegos >>> Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream. - >>> George Bush >>> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com >>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 >>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 >>> >>> On 5/31/2012 6:10 AM, David Chittenden wrote: Hello Grant, My friend is some sort of developer. You can argue for crashing the springboard all you want saying it will not corrupt any code. My friend says there is a very slight chance that it could corrupt code. I prefer not to take that chance. I have corrupted code in a pocket pc which then required me to do a complete rebuild from my computer. As this takes time which I prefer not to spend in such fashion, I choose not to take the chance. An Apple support person is the one who told me that the home and power buttons simultaneously for 10 to 12 seconds reboots the phone and properly restores the driver stacks. From my timing of both restarts, the reboot takes longer for booting up than the power cyclin
Re: Deleting Photos
Go to photos and double tap it then browse through your photos and find the photo you want double tap it and finally find delete button from my iPhone On May 31, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Jane wrote: > I've taken a few odd snapshots with my iPod. How do I delete the ones i dont > want? I can't seem to figure it out. > > I thought I could sync them to the computer, but I'm not sure wher to look > for them. Just want to save space on this thing. > > Jane > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: itunes alternatikve
Hi Roul, Jailbreak is a term I have not come across before; At first it suggested unlocking the phone, but from this post of yours I now think it might be enabling iPhone to be accessed from sources other than iTunes. Thanks for your help, Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: 31 May 2012 11:14 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes alternatikve Hi, if you jailbreak your iPhone, it cannot be serviced. Also, if you jailbreak your iPhone, and call for tech support and mention that it's jailbroken, they probably won't help you. However if you jailbreak your iPhone and ever have to have it serviced, a restore of the software will remove the jailbreak. All that being said, there are 2 apps which come to mind which might fit the bill for you. 1. Filer. This app doesn't require a jailbreak. It allows you to upload files, such as music, documents, or whatever to the iPhone. Then from the app, you can manage or do whatever with these files, i.e. open them in other applications, ETC. If you just tap the music files you upload, you can listen to the music that way. However this isn't the same experience as using the built-in Music app of the iPhone. Basically, everything you upload to Filer will stay in Filer, but no jailbreak is necessary. 2. PWN Tunes. This is a jailbreak only app. Basically when you connect your iPhone to the pc, you can go to sever folders inside it, just like a usb stick. One of these folders is called "my music" and if you copy music there, you can later listen to it from the iPhone Music player. When you want to remove it, just connect it to the pc again and remove it from that same folder and it will be gone from the music player. Good luck. -- Raul A. Gallegos I'm not 50. I'm $49.95 plus tax. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/31/2012 3:14 AM, Shane Christenson wrote: > Hey folks. I'd like to be able to transfer info and other stuff between > my IPhone 4 s and my pc. without using itunes. i'd like to avoid > jail-breaking my phone, because i don't know what I might do if I did. i > still need to be able to perform updates and so forth, and I have the > apple care protection plan for the phone. if jail breaking the phone > won't void any of this, I'd be willing to try it, but if it's best not > to jail-break, I'd like some way of transferring stuff between phone and > pc without itunes. Anyone's thoughts on this are most welcome. > > Shane > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Force rebooting of iPhone - Was Re: is it normal
Hi, Power and home buttons held is the official way, is it not; it would seem unwise to me to bash away repetitively at buttons in the hope that the poor phone will re-boot in despair at the insult applied to it. Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: 31 May 2012 11:19 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Force rebooting of iPhone - Was Re: is it normal Hi all, I feel that what David and Neil have stated are more correct for what it's worth. I personally have not looked up or researched whether or not it's a good idea to force a reboot via the power button being pressed multiple times, but on the surface it just seems silly and not safe to me. At least when you do the power button/home button for 12 seconds, it's giving the iOS system a chance to try and do what it can so that files and data are not being accessed while the phone is forced to reboot. This is why it's probably a several second process. Additionally, it could be that it's on purpose so you don't accidentally reboot your phone without meaning to. Lastly, folks, please update the subject lines. -- Raul A. Gallegos Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream. - George Bush Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/31/2012 6:10 AM, David Chittenden wrote: > Hello Grant, > > My friend is some sort of developer. You can argue for crashing the springboard all you want saying it will not corrupt any code. My friend says there is a very slight chance that it could corrupt code. I prefer not to take that chance. I have corrupted code in a pocket pc which then required me to do a complete rebuild from my computer. As this takes time which I prefer not to spend in such fashion, I choose not to take the chance. > > An Apple support person is the one who told me that the home and power buttons simultaneously for 10 to 12 seconds reboots the phone and properly restores the driver stacks. From my timing of both restarts, the reboot takes longer for booting up than the power cycling for booting up. > > To be precise, the higher level support specialist told me to first turn the iPhone off then on, and once it has come fully on, do the reboot. > > Sorry, but I trust both of these people over what you are saying on the list. My developer friend is a software engineer. The Apple tech support person was in the higher tier of support. > > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > > On 31/05/2012, at 19:28, Grant Hardy wrote: > >> Hi Neil, the twelve-second holding down of HOME and POWER is a forced >> reboot, rather like pressing the REBOOT button on a PC. If system >> corruption could occur on an iPhone using the other method (which as >> I've said I'm skeptical about), then it most certainly could occur >> with the reboot method as well, which does not shut anything down. >> >> Crashing your springboard is not "a forced collapsing" of the iOS >> platform; the springboard is one part of the iOS architecture. It's >> the part of iOS from which apps are launched. It does not store any >> critical user data. >> >> I think there are a fair few misconceptions about this topic on list. >> I don't mean to be argumentative but it is important that people >> understand them, and that if you have a theory (such as that data >> corruption could occur) that you make clear that it is just that--a >> theory. People who are stating this theory have relatively little >> technical data to back it up--case and point, the "forced collapsing >> of the iOS system" statement, which this is not. >> >> Warmly :) >> >> Grant >> >> >> >> On 5/31/12, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: >>> Adrian, >>> >>> I agree very much with David's suggestions, the stuttering of Voice >>> Over is a classic symptom of an over full App Switcher and / or a >>> handset which is rarely power cycled. >>> >>> My strong recommendation for all iOS users, is to empty their App >>> Switcher daily and perform a power cycle immediately there after. >>> >>> This has kept my iPhone and iPad running smoothly ever since the >>> first stuttering symptoms appeared. >>> >>> In addition, as a system admin I also hold to David's assertion that >>> there is a possible chance of corruption by performing the forced >>> collapsing of the iOS platform resulting from the 5 successive presses of the power key. >>> >>> The iOS device at this time is not expecting this crash and as a >>> result maybe accessing a key string of code, or a significant part >>> of your user data. If this happened at the exact moment you >>> performed the 5 successive presses of the power key, it is conceivable that it might corrupt data. >>> >>> The 12 second or however long it is, press of power and home at the >>> same time, is far more logical and sensib
Re: IOS development
Not exactly. For example; control.frame = CGRectMake(0, 0, 100, 30); You may be able to glean from this that the visual frame of the control is a rectangle which has its top left corner placed at 0,0 on the screen, which is at the top-most left corner of the display. The control also is 100 pixels long and 30 pixels from top to bottom. Does this make sense? In this way one whom cannot see can at least conceive of where controls are placed and how they relate to each other. No, it's certainly not perfect, but it is doable. :) HTH and have a great day!… Smiles, Cara :) On May 31, 2012, at 7:41 AM, Brent Harding wrote: Wouldn't this command line thing be a lot like blind guys trying CAD? What I mean is that I've been retyping these tutorials for a work experience with a job coach, and CAD is a mix of gui and command line, and I don't get conceptually what the tutorials are coming to as their end result. - Original Message - From: Jan Blüher To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:45 AM Subject: Re: IOS development Hallo Rob and Igor, here comes the link to the Apple developer registration page, where you can read more about the things you will have access to: https://developer.apple.com/programs/register/ Good luck Jan --- ColorVisor - The app to identify colors. Available on the App Store: http://itunes.com/app/ColorVisor --- Dr. Jan Blüher visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone Bayreuther Str. 2 D-01187 Dresden Germany phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907 mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242 e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com web: http://visorApps.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps tax number: DE281706766 Am 31.05.2012 um 14:31 schrieb Rob Harris: > This is something I'd like, not done programming for a while, but did a > degree in the stuff using a range of languages at the time. so how do > we > join this club? happy to hear we can type our own way without all the > visual-blah mentality! > > Thanks, RobH. > - Original Message - > From: "Jan Blüher" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:20 PM > Subject: Re: IOS development > > > Hallo Igor, > > Xcode is the only tool you can use for iOS development. there is no way > around. However, Xcode is quite accessible and blind people can use it, as I > do. > > The thing that is not accessible is the so-called Interface Builder, with > which you can click and drag your user interface. But this is no problem. > Everything can be done programmatically. There is a lot of documentation on > Apple's developer portal at http://developer.apple.com . It is very covering > and accessible. You have to register as an developer (for free) to get > access. > > Do you have some experiences in programming? > > Greetings > > Jan > > --- > ColorVisor - The app to identify colors. > Now available on the iTunes App Store: > http://itunes.apple.com/de/app/colorvisor/id511093568?mt=8&ls=1 > --- > Dr. Jan Blüher > visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone > Bayreuther Str. 2 > D-01187 Dresden > Germany > > phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907 > mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242 > e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com > web: http://visorApps.com > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps > > tax number: DE281706766 > > > > > Am 31.05.2012 um 13:24 schrieb Igor Kaplan: > >> Hi dear listers, >> >> I believe, we have some blind IOS developers on this list, so would like >> to ask some questions as a very beginner IOS developer. >> I believe, the part of XCode which builds the user interface is not >> accessible, at least it is rather complex to use it with VoiceOver. >> I wander, is there a good documentation, how to create and use IOS >> controls, such as buttons, Text boxes and so on by code instead of using >> the XCode? >> I am probably not using the correct terminology here, I am windows >> developer just starting with IOS. >> I have looked at several books about IOS developments, however all of >> them are talking about using XCode while building the User interface. So >> far I am not able to find the documentation, which would give me a good >> reference, how to do the controls layout by code. >> Would so much appreciate, if someone could please point me to such >> resource. >> >> Many thanks and have a wonderful day! >> >>Igor. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email toviph...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email >> toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To sear
Re: app: ariadne?
Hi Rob, You can check the podcasts and the FAQ at the Ariadne GPS web site for recommendations on using the app: http://www.ariadnegps.eu/ HTH. Cheers, Esther On May 31, 10:11 am, Rob Harris wrote: > Ok, got it; fascinating! > > Could someone point me at instructions, can't find anything in it. > > Any recommendations of the best way to navigate or explore the maps? I was > getting confusing results, my geography isn't as bad as that. > > Thanks, RobH. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: itunes alternatikve
Hi, not exactly. When you jailbreak your phone, you are not limited to the sandbox experience. Apps can interact a lot more with each other and you can do some neat things which Apple hasn't allowed. One of the simplest things you can do is theme your phone. So, if you want a Star Trek theme for your phone with badges, icons, and sounds which are all Trek-based, you can do that, but only if you jailbreak. -- Raul A. Gallegos If you were born in November; you are most probably a mistake from valentines day. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/31/2012 6:15 PM, Mike Cassidy wrote: Hi Roul, Jailbreak is a term I have not come across before; At first it suggested unlocking the phone, but from this post of yours I now think it might be enabling iPhone to be accessed from sources other than iTunes. Thanks for your help, Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: 31 May 2012 11:14 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes alternatikve Hi, if you jailbreak your iPhone, it cannot be serviced. Also, if you jailbreak your iPhone, and call for tech support and mention that it's jailbroken, they probably won't help you. However if you jailbreak your iPhone and ever have to have it serviced, a restore of the software will remove the jailbreak. All that being said, there are 2 apps which come to mind which might fit the bill for you. 1. Filer. This app doesn't require a jailbreak. It allows you to upload files, such as music, documents, or whatever to the iPhone. Then from the app, you can manage or do whatever with these files, i.e. open them in other applications, ETC. If you just tap the music files you upload, you can listen to the music that way. However this isn't the same experience as using the built-in Music app of the iPhone. Basically, everything you upload to Filer will stay in Filer, but no jailbreak is necessary. 2. PWN Tunes. This is a jailbreak only app. Basically when you connect your iPhone to the pc, you can go to sever folders inside it, just like a usb stick. One of these folders is called "my music" and if you copy music there, you can later listen to it from the iPhone Music player. When you want to remove it, just connect it to the pc again and remove it from that same folder and it will be gone from the music player. Good luck. -- Raul A. Gallegos I'm not 50. I'm $49.95 plus tax. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/31/2012 3:14 AM, Shane Christenson wrote: Hey folks. I'd like to be able to transfer info and other stuff between my IPhone 4 s and my pc. without using itunes. i'd like to avoid jail-breaking my phone, because i don't know what I might do if I did. i still need to be able to perform updates and so forth, and I have the apple care protection plan for the phone. if jail breaking the phone won't void any of this, I'd be willing to try it, but if it's best not to jail-break, I'd like some way of transferring stuff between phone and pc without itunes. Anyone's thoughts on this are most welcome. Shane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: bbc world news
Have you checked out the BBC News App in the App store? It has news hour episodes. Egun On, Lagunak! Basque for G'day, Mates Louie P. (Pete) Nalda Http://www.myspace.com/lpnalda Http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda Http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter @lpnalda On May 31, 2012, at 6:07 PM, RDLAW wrote: > > Does anyone know where I can find an app to get this station. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: bbc world news
If you mean the BBC World Service all news stream, OoTunes, Tune-in Radio, and probably many other good radio apps have it. Jonathan _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of RDLAW Sent: Friday, 1 June 2012 11:08 a.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: bbc world news Does anyone know where I can find an app to get this station. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: app: ariadne?
thanks for this post this looks like a very interesting GPS APP. I am downloading it now do you know how well it does if one is driving with someone and wants to give them directions or let them listen to the directions as they drive? I know navigon does fairly well, I have tested it with my girlfriend doing the driving. And it seems to do even better than her android HTC Ebo. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 18:55 To: VIPhone Subject: Re: app: ariadne? Hi Rob, You can check the podcasts and the FAQ at the Ariadne GPS web site for recommendations on using the app: http://www.ariadnegps.eu/ HTH. Cheers, Esther On May 31, 10:11 am, Rob Harris wrote: > Ok, got it; fascinating! > > Could someone point me at instructions, can't find anything in it. > > Any recommendations of the best way to navigate or explore the maps? I > was getting confusing results, my geography isn't as bad as that. > > Thanks, RobH. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
playing the candy wars
HI all: I'm trying to play the candy wars, anyone tried it? I can buy and cell chocklets, but what else? And how can I play? Cheers: Ramy Moustafa Owner and producer of Harmony recording studios skype: roma30 Facebook: moustafa.r...@gmail.com Twitter: Ramymoustafa youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: app: ariadne?
Hi, I have navigon and ariadne. I found it challenging to get ariadne to let me know of street names. I was told if you load ariadne first and then navigon, the streets are spoken while walking. But that didn't work either. I would love to figure how to do the following withariadne. 1. How can I get street names to be announced when walking? 2. Verbaly announce when comming up to an intersection. I have found how to get the addresses to be announced. However, ariadne says each one while I am passing them and that gets to much talking. Navigon on the other hand is working great for setting a destination and announcing the major turn points etc of the route while in travel. - Original Message - From: "Jesus Garcia" To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:33 PM Subject: RE: app: ariadne? thanks for this post this looks like a very interesting GPS APP. I am downloading it now do you know how well it does if one is driving with someone and wants to give them directions or let them listen to the directions as they drive? I know navigon does fairly well, I have tested it with my girlfriend doing the driving. And it seems to do even better than her android HTC Ebo. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 18:55 To: VIPhone Subject: Re: app: ariadne? Hi Rob, You can check the podcasts and the FAQ at the Ariadne GPS web site for recommendations on using the app: http://www.ariadnegps.eu/ HTH. Cheers, Esther On May 31, 10:11 am, Rob Harris wrote: Ok, got it; fascinating! Could someone point me at instructions, can't find anything in it. Any recommendations of the best way to navigate or explore the maps? I was getting confusing results, my geography isn't as bad as that. Thanks, RobH. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Accessibility of WriteRoom
Hi all, I know that the Plain Text app is accessible, but is their paid app, WriteRoom, accessible? thanks if anyone knows. don't want to pay $5 without knowing, but would like the additional functionality. have a blessed day, Nicki If you enjoy college football or the NFL, come join us at our new group, touchdowncrazy. Send a blank e-mail message to: touchdowncrazy-subscr...@yahoogroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Accessibility of WriteRoom
Hi, Yes, it is accessible. I think the one draw back with both of their apps is that you cannot easily delete a file from within the app with VoiceOver. If you use DropBox with it, it is easy enough to delete from DropBox. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicki keck Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 5:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Accessibility of WriteRoom Hi all, I know that the Plain Text app is accessible, but is their paid app, WriteRoom, accessible? thanks if anyone knows. don't want to pay $5 without knowing, but would like the additional functionality. have a blessed day, Nicki If you enjoy college football or the NFL, come join us at our new group, touchdowncrazy. Send a blank e-mail message to: touchdowncrazy-subscr...@yahoogroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
kings corner revisited
Thanks to all of your advice. I slowed my finger slide and stayed patient, and, what do you know, I finally won!! There's hope for the old girl yet! GRIN! God bless! Paula and Babe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: app: ariadne?
Hi, did you enable the start monitoring button? You must ddo this in order for it to speak things. -- Raul A. Gallegos The customer service at my bank is awful, I asked the teller to check my balance so she leaned over and pushed me. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/31/2012 7:55 PM, dan thompson wrote: Hi, I have navigon and ariadne. I found it challenging to get ariadne to let me know of street names. I was told if you load ariadne first and then navigon, the streets are spoken while walking. But that didn't work either. I would love to figure how to do the following withariadne. 1. How can I get street names to be announced when walking? 2. Verbaly announce when comming up to an intersection. I have found how to get the addresses to be announced. However, ariadne says each one while I am passing them and that gets to much talking. Navigon on the other hand is working great for setting a destination and announcing the major turn points etc of the route while in travel. - Original Message - From: "Jesus Garcia" To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:33 PM Subject: RE: app: ariadne? thanks for this post this looks like a very interesting GPS APP. I am downloading it now do you know how well it does if one is driving with someone and wants to give them directions or let them listen to the directions as they drive? I know navigon does fairly well, I have tested it with my girlfriend doing the driving. And it seems to do even better than her android HTC Ebo. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 18:55 To: VIPhone Subject: Re: app: ariadne? Hi Rob, You can check the podcasts and the FAQ at the Ariadne GPS web site for recommendations on using the app: http://www.ariadnegps.eu/ HTH. Cheers, Esther On May 31, 10:11 am, Rob Harris wrote: Ok, got it; fascinating! Could someone point me at instructions, can't find anything in it. Any recommendations of the best way to navigate or explore the maps? I was getting confusing results, my geography isn't as bad as that. Thanks, RobH. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: bbc world news
ootunes has audio and video streams of this tv channel. Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2012, at 6:13 PM, "Jonathan Mosen" wrote: > If you mean the BBC World Service all news stream, OoTunes, Tune-in Radio, > and probably many other good radio apps have it. > > Jonathan > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > RDLAW > Sent: Friday, 1 June 2012 11:08 a.m. > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: bbc world news > > > Does anyone know where I can find an app to get this station. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
re: How to send i message to any person from my i phone?
Hi Ramy, basically, iMessage is designed to be totally transparent. If someone is using an iPhone, then as long as you both have iMessage enabled under Settings/Messages, it'll be used automatically. You can tell it's being used because in the conversation window, instead of making reference to "text message," VoiceOver will make reference to "iMessage." The only time you might find it trickier to start a conversation with someone is if that person uses an iPod Touch instead of an iPhone. In that case you need to use their Email address rather than their phone number to initiate the conversation. You can do that through any normal means. For example, you can go into the Contacts application, select the contact, choose "Send message," and pick their Email address. Or go into the Messages application, pick the compose button, choose "Add from address book," and then select the contact and the Email address. Let us know if you need any more information! Cheers, Grant - Original Message - From: "Ramy Moustafa" I activated the I message, but don't know if I can send it or not, And how? Thanks Cheers: Ramy Moustafa Owner and producer of Harmony recording studios skype: roma30 Facebook: moustafa.r...@gmail.com Twitter: Ramymoustafa youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Yes, You can listen to F M broadcasts on your iPhone
A correction. I said you will need to find the "done button on the bottom > left to return to the favorites page. The done button is on the bottom right. Sorry, Chuck On May 31, 4:13 pm, Chuck Dean wrote: > Hi All, > I have tested the Griffin iFM Radio Receiver for iPhone and iPod. Here > is a link: > > http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Radio-Receiver-iPhone-iPod/dp/B003ERT46... > > The good news is that the FM reception and sound quality is fantastic! > The bad news is that the app is not accessible with voice over at all, > and I do not see anyway it could ever be. > The device plugs into the bottom of the iPhone which totally disables > speech. The headset plugs into the bottom of this device. > > Under my video magnifier I was able to set up presets and I can run > the app via memory with voice over off. > The stations are listed in numerical order on the favorites page. The > main downside is the "Tuner button is in the center of the screen, > about 1 inch from the top of the phone, and if you hit this > accidentally, you will need to find the "done button on the bottom > left to return to the favorites page. With no voice over it would be > difficult for a totally blind user to avoid doing this. > > If you are like me and listen to one radio station all the time then > you are in luck, the app retains the last station listened to, so all > you would have to do is double tap on the icon and the iFm will start. > And with voice over on, there is no danger of accidentally hitting the > tuner button. > > IMHO definitely worth the 20 bucks! > > Good luck, > Chuck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
re: Yes, You can listen to F M broadcasts on your iPhone
Hi Chuck, this is a brilliant description, thanks! As you say, this could well be worth the twenty bucks in spite of the limitations because you could pick a station which broadcasts output from an FM transmitter for example, or your favorite station which does not stream over the internet, and then leave it at that. Cheers, Grant - Original Message - From: Chuck Dean I have tested the Griffin iFM Radio Receiver for iPhone and iPod. Here is a link: http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Radio-Receiver-iPhone-iPod/dp/B003E RT46W/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338397415&sr=8-1-spell The good news is that the FM reception and sound quality is fantastic! The bad news is that the app is not accessible with voice over at all, and I do not see anyway it could ever be. The device plugs into the bottom of the iPhone which totally disables speech. The headset plugs into the bottom of this device. Under my video magnifier I was able to set up presets and I can run the app via memory with voice over off. The stations are listed in numerical order on the favorites page. The main downside is the "Tuner button is in the center of the screen, about 1 inch from the top of the phone, and if you hit this accidentally, you will need to find the "done button on the bottom left to return to the favorites page. With no voice over it would be difficult for a totally blind user to avoid doing this. If you are like me and listen to one radio station all the time then you are in luck, the app retains the last station listened to, so all you would have to do is double tap on the icon and the iFm will start. And with voice over on, there is no danger of accidentally hitting the tuner button. IMHO definitely worth the 20 bucks! Good luck, Chuck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Force rebooting of iPhone - Was Re: is it normal
Hey Mike, again, this is one of the misconceptions going around: this is not a reboot, not in the least. :) Cheers, Grant - Original Message - From: "Mike Cassidy" Power and home buttons held is the official way, is it not; it would seem unwise to me to bash away repetitively at buttons in the hope that the poor phone will re-boot in despair at the insult applied to it. Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: 31 May 2012 11:19 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Force rebooting of iPhone - Was Re: is it normal Hi all, I feel that what David and Neil have stated are more correct for what it's worth. I personally have not looked up or researched whether or not it's a good idea to force a reboot via the power button being pressed multiple times, but on the surface it just seems silly and not safe to me. At least when you do the power button/home button for 12 seconds, it's giving the iOS system a chance to try and do what it can so that files and data are not being accessed while the phone is forced to reboot. This is why it's probably a several second process. Additionally, it could be that it's on purpose so you don't accidentally reboot your phone without meaning to. Lastly, folks, please update the subject lines. Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream. - George Bush Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/31/2012 6:10 AM, David Chittenden wrote: Hello Grant, My friend is some sort of developer. You can argue for crashing the springboard all you want saying it will not corrupt any code. My friend says there is a very slight chance that it could corrupt code. I prefer not to take that chance. I have corrupted code in a pocket pc which then required me to do a complete rebuild from my computer. As this takes time which I prefer not to spend in such fashion, I choose not to take the chance. An Apple support person is the one who told me that the home and power buttons simultaneously for 10 to 12 seconds reboots the phone and properly restores the driver stacks. From my timing of both restarts, the reboot takes longer for booting up than the power cycling for booting up. To be precise, the higher level support specialist told me to first turn the iPhone off then on, and once it has come fully on, do the reboot. Sorry, but I trust both of these people over what you are saying on the list. My developer friend is a software engineer. The Apple tech support person was in the higher tier of support. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 31/05/2012, at 19:28, Grant Hardy wrote: Hi Neil, the twelve-second holding down of HOME and POWER is a forced reboot, rather like pressing the REBOOT button on a PC. If system corruption could occur on an iPhone using the other method (which as I've said I'm skeptical about), then it most certainly could occur with the reboot method as well, which does not shut anything down. Crashing your springboard is not "a forced collapsing" of the iOS platform; the springboard is one part of the iOS architecture. It's the part of iOS from which apps are launched. It does not store any critical user data. I think there are a fair few misconceptions about this topic on list. I don't mean to be argumentative but it is important that people understand them, and that if you have a theory (such as that data corruption could occur) that you make clear that it is just that--a theory. People who are stating this theory have relatively little technical data to back it up--case and point, the "forced collapsing of the iOS system" statement, which this is not. Warmly :) Grant On 5/31/12, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: Adrian, I agree very much with David's suggestions, the stuttering of Voice Over is a classic symptom of an over full App Switcher and / or a handset which is rarely power cycled. My strong recommendation for all iOS users, is to empty their App Switcher daily and perform a power cycle immediately there after. This has kept my iPhone and iPad running smoothly ever since the first stuttering symptoms appeared. In addition, as a system admin I also hold to David's assertion that there is a possible chance of corruption by performing the forced collapsing of the iOS platform resulting from the 5 successive presses of the power key. The iOS device at this time is not expecting this crash and as a result maybe accessing a key string of code, or a significant part of your user data. If this happened at the exact moment you performed the 5 successive presses of the power key, it is conceivable that it might corrupt data. The 12 second or however long it is, press of power and home at the same time
RE: bbc world news
TuneIn radio, Wunder Radio also carry the radio channel. Richard _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Elliff Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 5:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: bbc world news ootunes has audio and video streams of this tv channel. Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2012, at 6:13 PM, "Jonathan Mosen" wrote: If you mean the BBC World Service all news stream, OoTunes, Tune-in Radio, and probably many other good radio apps have it. Jonathan _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of RDLAW Sent: Friday, 1 June 2012 11:08 a.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: bbc world news Does anyone know where I can find an app to get this station. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: How to send i message to any person from my i phone?
Success, great Thanks so much Cheers: Ramy Moustafa Owner and producer of Harmony recording studios skype: roma30 Facebook: moustafa.r...@gmail.com Twitter: Ramymoustafa youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 2:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: re: How to send i message to any person from my i phone? Hi Ramy, basically, iMessage is designed to be totally transparent. If someone is using an iPhone, then as long as you both have iMessage enabled under Settings/Messages, it'll be used automatically. You can tell it's being used because in the conversation window, instead of making reference to "text message," VoiceOver will make reference to "iMessage." The only time you might find it trickier to start a conversation with someone is if that person uses an iPod Touch instead of an iPhone. In that case you need to use their Email address rather than their phone number to initiate the conversation. You can do that through any normal means. For example, you can go into the Contacts application, select the contact, choose "Send message," and pick their Email address. Or go into the Messages application, pick the compose button, choose "Add from address book," and then select the contact and the Email address. Let us know if you need any more information! Cheers, Grant - Original Message - From: "Ramy Moustafa" http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture
I have for awhile used the method of planting one finger and making a sweeping diagonal motion on the screen with another finger on the same hand. I think the important thing is to find something that works that is comfortable for the individual for their use and I think there definitely are ways. The two finger one on each side of the phone seems to produce good results as well. My wrist has absolutely never liked the knob twisting motion on the flat screen at all. The rotor was the one gesture I had concerns about even before I got or tried the IPhone. I can think of alternatives that would possibly be nice if they could be implemented, but that is not reality for now and may never be. Maybe like defining a long gesture up or down th screen with one or two fingers for example. Make it have to cover most of the screen from top to bottom so as not to conflict with shorter up or down swipes maybe. So like a short swipe up or down do what it does now to do what the rotor is set to and a definite intentional longer swipe to change what it would do (change the rotor). Might be nice. On 5/31/12, Keith Bundy wrote: > I, too, use the knob twisting method, and I have excellent success with the > rotor. Thanks for these excellent alternative methods, Cristobal. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 31, 2012, at 12:09 PM, "Cristobal" wrote: > >> I can't say I've had nearly the trouble expressed by others on this list >> with this gesture. >> I often use a nob twisting motion with my thumb and index or middle >> finger >> or simply plant my index finger somewhere on the screen and use my middle >> finger to swipe somewhere else on the screen and generate the rotor >> action >> that way. I'll also just plant my index finger and place my middle finger >> on >> another part of the screen and rotate my wrist to cycle through the >> various >> options in a faster manner. That or just plant both fingers separated on >> the >> screen and rotate the phone while leaving my fingers locked in position. >> It >> all depends on how I'm positioned in relation to the phone. Sitting, >> stretched out on the couch, reclined in bed etc. >> >> I think I probably have more difficulty with the four finger tap for >> getting >> to the top or bottom of the screen. That's more a function of my big mits >> and the narrowness of the iPhone though I imagine. >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf >> Of Kimber Gardner >> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:58 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture >> >> The roter seems to be my biggest problem with VO whether on the phone or >> the >> MacAir. I have never been able to get it to behave consistently. Given >> John's suggestion, I came up with a method that appears to be working for >> me. Rather than using two fingers on the same hand, I use both index >> fingers >> and move them in opposite directions. It's based on John's idea but >> requires >> both hands and so may not be suitable for everyone. >> >> K >> >> On 5/31/12, Rob Harris wrote: >>> I'll try it, I tried previous suggestion making sure the app knew it >>> was in >>> >>> control, but for sure using the wider rotor might have mileage. >>> >>> Ok, tried it; I ocnclude both elements need to be done for >>> consistency. The >>> >>> first touch of the typing screen doesn't produce a dot, it just >>> ensures the >>> >>> app is focussed. >>> >>> RobH@Home. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Jon Pierson" >>> To: >>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:52 PM >>> Subject: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> I have watched many people having inconsistent results using the rotor >>> and I myself have not had the silly thing act the same way from >>> session to session. Now maybe it's something with the callouses on my >>> abused fingers but for whatever reason, I have not found rotoring to >>> be to my liking, until today! >>> >>> I was wondering first of all how much spacing between the fingers was >>> possible and apparently the answer is, a lot. >>> >>> What I have found most useful now, and this does work on any of the >>> phone's edges so that portrait or landscape modes shouldn't affect >>> this methid, is to use two fingers near the edges of the screen. >>> Pretend the phone has a set of railroad tracks on it and that each of >>> your fingers represents a traing going in the opposite direction. >>> As long as both fingers move, the gesture seems to be picked up >>> consistently. >>> >>> I just tried this way of changing rotor settings with a person who >>> swore that rotoring was never going to be a useful gesture because of >>> the frustration it seems to bring to many novice IOS/VO users and the >>> result was that all of the rotor's settings changed correctly on the >>> first and every try. >>> >>> So maybe some folks want to give this method a try and hopefully the >>> results will
Re: bbc world news
Just do a search for BBC in the app store. BBC has a dedicated app for free and accessible. You can listen to the stream as well as read wonderful stuff BBC has to offer. Good luck - Original Message - From: RDLAW To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:07 PM Subject: bbc world news Does anyone know where I can find an app to get this station. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: YouVersion Question
Hi: I cannot figure what the labels are supposed to be used fore. On May 31, 2012, at 11:55 AM, Jennie Facer wrote: > When you get to bookmarks, if you flick around, there is a title text field. > > Hope this helps, > > Jenn > > To the world you are someone but to someone you are the world! > > On May 31, 2012, at 7:49 AM, Carol Pearson > wrote: > >> I'll ask my friend if she can work it out as she has enough vision to see >> what I sometimes miss. >> >> -- >> Carol P >> Original Message >> From: "Sarai Bucciarelli" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:45 AM >> Subject: Re: YouVersion Question >> >>> Hi: >>> I'm not sure about the labeling of Bookmarks, and how >>> that works. Thanks for the help. >>> >>> On May 30, 2012, at 2:42 PM, Carol Pearson wrote: >>> To be honest, a partially sighted friend alerted me to it and, once there and she had explained that you had to double tap the verses to select them, I was away! I'm still not totally clear about the Notes edit boxes so may get her to take a look at that. -- Carol P Original Message From: "Sarai Bucciarelli" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 2:29 PM Subject: Re: YouVersion Question > Hi: > Thank you! That did it. Man. How did you find that > action button? I looked everywhere! Will my bookmarks be > transferred to my iPad too? On May 29, 2012, at 4:50 AM, > Carol Pearson wrote: > >> Hi Sarah, >> >> Sorry, haven't time to give detailed instructions now >> ... but I think you'll catch on if I start you off: >> >> 1)Double Tap each verse you want to include; >> 2Locate a rather small button on the bottom right >> edge which says "Action". >> >> From there you follow your nose and it's necessary to >> swipe all the way to the left to get a feel of what you >> can do there ... >> >> Any more questions when you've played a little, do come >> back and I'll do my best to give some more detailed >> explanations if I can. >> >> -- >> Carol P - Just off out now and busy day ahead! >> >> >> Original Message >> From: "Sarai Bucciarelli" >> To: >> Cc: >> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 5:00 PM >> Subject: YouVersion Question >> >>> Hi: >>> How do you create notes and Bookmarks with Youversion? >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed >>> to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone >>> public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this >>> group, send email to >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more >>> options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to >> the "VIPhone" Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to >> viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to > the "VIPhone" Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to > viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to >>> the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public >>> archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To >>> post to this group, send email to >>> viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, >>> visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Goog
Re: YouVersion Question
Thanks, Youversion is good to read the Bible. Mantis Bible Study is good for studying it. On May 31, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Carol Pearson wrote: > I'll ask my friend if she can work it out as she has enough vision to see > what I sometimes miss. > > -- > Carol P > Original Message > From: "Sarai Bucciarelli" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:45 AM > Subject: Re: YouVersion Question > >> Hi: >> I'm not sure about the labeling of Bookmarks, and how >> that works. Thanks for the help. >> >> On May 30, 2012, at 2:42 PM, Carol Pearson wrote: >> >>> To be honest, a partially sighted friend alerted me to >>> it and, once there and she had explained that you had to >>> double tap the verses to select them, I was away! >>> >>> I'm still not totally clear about the Notes edit boxes >>> so may get her to take a look at that. >>> >>> -- >>> Carol P >>> Original Message >>> From: "Sarai Bucciarelli" >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 2:29 PM >>> Subject: Re: YouVersion Question >>> Hi: Thank you! That did it. Man. How did you find that action button? I looked everywhere! Will my bookmarks be transferred to my iPad too? On May 29, 2012, at 4:50 AM, Carol Pearson wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > Sorry, haven't time to give detailed instructions now > ... but I think you'll catch on if I start you off: > > 1)Double Tap each verse you want to include; > 2Locate a rather small button on the bottom right > edge which says "Action". > > From there you follow your nose and it's necessary to > swipe all the way to the left to get a feel of what you > can do there ... > > Any more questions when you've played a little, do come > back and I'll do my best to give some more detailed > explanations if I can. > > -- > Carol P - Just off out now and busy day ahead! > > > Original Message > From: "Sarai Bucciarelli" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 5:00 PM > Subject: YouVersion Question > >> Hi: >> How do you create notes and Bookmarks with Youversion? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed >> to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone >> public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to >> viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this >> group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more >> options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to > the "VIPhone" Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to > viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to >>> the "VIPhone" Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to >> the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public >> archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To >> post to this group, send email to >> viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, >> visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vi
Re: Yes, You can listen to F M broadcasts on your iPhone
i have been playing with this device and found some work arounds. Once you get the presets set, you'll probably need sighted help for this, you can use the app this way. First find the app and double tap it. now plug in the device into the bottom of your iPhone. Turn off voice over by triple clicking the home button. Now by tapping along the left side of the screen, you can select the different presets, with out danger of hitting the tuner button which is in the center top of the screen. The preset buttons run the entire width of the screen and are about three eighth of an inch high. If you have more than five presets, you'll have to move the screen up. like a sighted person by holding your finger on the screen and sliding up. note, there is a settings button on the lower right of the screen you also want to avoid. The volume is a slider on the bottom. you will have to tap and slide until you hear the volume change. But you can estimate the buttons position by how loud the volume is. I used it blindfolded for a half an hour. Not too bad once it is set up. Hope this helps, Chuck On May 31, 5:53 pm, Grant Hardy wrote: > Hi Chuck, this is a brilliant description, thanks! As you say, > this could well be worth the twenty bucks in spite of the > limitations because you could pick a station which broadcasts > output from an FM transmitter for example, or your favorite > station which does not stream over the internet, and then leave > it at that. > > Cheers, > > Grant > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: Chuck Dean To: VIPhone > Date sent: Thu, 31 May 2012 16:13:57 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: Yes, You can listen to F M broadcasts on your iPhone > > Hi All, > I have tested the Griffin iFM Radio Receiver for iPhone and iPod. > Here > is a link: > > http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Radio-Receiver-iPhone-iPod/dp/B003E > RT46W/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338397415&sr=8-1-spell > > The good news is that the FM reception and sound quality is > fantastic! > The bad news is that the app is not accessible with voice over at > all, > and I do not see anyway it could ever be. > The device plugs into the bottom of the iPhone which totally > disables > speech. The headset plugs into the bottom of this device. > > Under my video magnifier I was able to set up presets and I can > run > the app via memory with voice over off. > The stations are listed in numerical order on the favorites page. > The > main downside is the "Tuner button is in the center of the > screen, > about 1 inch from the top of the phone, and if you hit this > accidentally, you will need to find the "done button on the > bottom > left to return to the favorites page. With no voice over it > would be > difficult for a totally blind user to avoid doing this. > > If you are like me and listen to one radio station all the time > then > you are in luck, the app retains the last station listened to, so > all > you would have to do is double tap on the icon and the iFm will > start. > And with voice over on, there is no danger of accidentally > hitting the > tuner button. > > IMHO definitely worth the 20 bucks! > > Good luck, > Chuck > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > "VIPhone" Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, > visithttp://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Yes, You can listen to F M broadcasts on your iPhone
Oh, it plugs into the audio jack of the phone, or dock connector? If in the dock, there's no reason VO couldn't work. I wonder if there's another IOS radio out there? I hate to drag out the old booksense to plug into my PC line in just for the stations around here that do not stream, but would like decent (as well as FM sounds) radio I can control from the phone or PC. - Original Message - From: "Chuck Dean" To: "VIPhone" Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:53 PM Subject: Re: Yes, You can listen to F M broadcasts on your iPhone A correction. I said you will need to find the "done button on the bottom left to return to the favorites page. The done button is on the bottom right. Sorry, Chuck On May 31, 4:13 pm, Chuck Dean wrote: Hi All, I have tested the Griffin iFM Radio Receiver for iPhone and iPod. Here is a link: http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Radio-Receiver-iPhone-iPod/dp/B003ERT46... The good news is that the FM reception and sound quality is fantastic! The bad news is that the app is not accessible with voice over at all, and I do not see anyway it could ever be. The device plugs into the bottom of the iPhone which totally disables speech. The headset plugs into the bottom of this device. Under my video magnifier I was able to set up presets and I can run the app via memory with voice over off. The stations are listed in numerical order on the favorites page. The main downside is the "Tuner button is in the center of the screen, about 1 inch from the top of the phone, and if you hit this accidentally, you will need to find the "done button on the bottom left to return to the favorites page. With no voice over it would be difficult for a totally blind user to avoid doing this. If you are like me and listen to one radio station all the time then you are in luck, the app retains the last station listened to, so all you would have to do is double tap on the icon and the iFm will start. And with voice over on, there is no danger of accidentally hitting the tuner button. IMHO definitely worth the 20 bucks! Good luck, Chuck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Question about The Night Jar
Hi everyone, On a related topic, how can I get the "Nightjar" game though I live in the US? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Megan Bening Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:31 PM To: VIPhone Subject: Question about The Night Jar Hi all, I was wondering if anyone else is having issues with crashes while trying to play The Night Jar on iOS 5.1.1. I live in the US, but was able to get assistance to play from someone in the UK, but am curious... Were there any updates recently to fix these issues, or is this just an isolated issue that only I am experiencing? I'd appreciate any feedback that you can give me. Thanks, Megan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/5037 - Release Date: 05/31/12 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture
Hi, John's idea is a good one which I discovered quite by accident some time ago and have been using that method ever since, as it gives me consistent results each and every time. I usually use my phone in portrait mode and have locked it in portrait mode as I prefer it that way, even for typing. I place my phone on a stable surface, then, depending on which way I want to turn the rotor, I'll place my index fingers on the left and right side of the phone and move each vertically in opposite directions at the same time. If I want the rotor to turn clockwise, I'll move the index finger on my left hand upward while moving the index finger on my right hand downward. For counterclockwise, I'll move my left index downward while moving my right index upward. Simple as that; works like a champ. Tom Tom - Original Message - From: "Jon Pierson" To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:52 AM Subject: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture Hi, I have watched many people having inconsistent results using the rotor and I myself have not had the silly thing act the same way from session to session. Now maybe it's something with the callouses on my abused fingers but for whatever reason, I have not found rotoring to be to my liking, until today! I was wondering first of all how much spacing between the fingers was possible and apparently the answer is, a lot. What I have found most useful now, and this does work on any of the phone's edges so that portrait or landscape modes shouldn't affect this methid, is to use two fingers near the edges of the screen. Pretend the phone has a set of railroad tracks on it and that each of your fingers represents a traing going in the opposite direction. As long as both fingers move, the gesture seems to be picked up consistently. I just tried this way of changing rotor settings with a person who swore that rotoring was never going to be a useful gesture because of the frustration it seems to bring to many novice IOS/VO users and the result was that all of the rotor's settings changed correctly on the first and every try. So maybe some folks want to give this method a try and hopefully the results will be as rewarding as they have been here so far. Now I may have to try that pinching gesture folks talk about next. Jon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Yes, You can listen to F M broadcasts on your iPhone
It plugs into the dock, but utilizes the sound output to send the audio to its own head phone jack. When I plug it in the audio output is disabled, even through the headphone jack. Chuck On May 31, 8:50 pm, "Brent Harding" wrote: > Oh, it plugs into the audio jack of the phone, or dock connector? If in the > dock, there's no reason VO couldn't work. I wonder if there's another IOS > radio out there? I hate to drag out the old booksense to plug into my PC > line in just for the stations around here that do not stream, but would like > decent (as well as FM sounds) radio I can control from the phone or PC. > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Chuck Dean" > To: "VIPhone" > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:53 PM > Subject: Re: Yes, You can listen to F M broadcasts on your iPhone > > A correction. > I said you will need to find the "done button on the bottom > > left to return to the favorites page. > > The done button is on the bottom right. > Sorry, > Chuck > > On May 31, 4:13 pm, Chuck Dean wrote: > > Hi All, > > I have tested the Griffin iFM Radio Receiver for iPhone and iPod. Here > > is a link: > > >http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Radio-Receiver-iPhone-iPod/dp/B003ERT46... > > > The good news is that the FM reception and sound quality is fantastic! > > The bad news is that the app is not accessible with voice over at all, > > and I do not see anyway it could ever be. > > The device plugs into the bottom of the iPhone which totally disables > > speech. The headset plugs into the bottom of this device. > > > Under my video magnifier I was able to set up presets and I can run > > the app via memory with voice over off. > > The stations are listed in numerical order on the favorites page. The > > main downside is the "Tuner button is in the center of the screen, > > about 1 inch from the top of the phone, and if you hit this > > accidentally, you will need to find the "done button on the bottom > > left to return to the favorites page. With no voice over it would be > > difficult for a totally blind user to avoid doing this. > > > If you are like me and listen to one radio station all the time then > > you are in luck, the app retains the last station listened to, so all > > you would have to do is double tap on the icon and the iFm will start. > > And with voice over on, there is no danger of accidentally hitting the > > tuner button. > > > IMHO definitely worth the 20 bucks! > > > Good luck, > > Chuck > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, > visithttp://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: How to send i message to any person from my i phone?
Hi, Ramy, You can use IMessage with anyone else who has IOS 5 on their devices. You may have to ask friends whether they use their email address or cell number. HTH, Teresa On May 31, 2012, at 4:44 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote: > > > HI all: > > I activated the I message, but don’t know if I can send it or not, > And how? > > Thanks > > Cheers: > Ramy Moustafa > Owner and producer of Harmony recording studios > skype: > roma30 > Facebook: > moustafa.r...@gmail.com > Twitter: > Ramymoustafa > youtube chanael: > www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Force rebooting of iPhone - Was Re: is it normal
I use the home and power buttons when my IPod is unresponsive. Otherwise, to restart it if something's behaving strangely but not freezing its functions I do the following: press and hold power button until VO says "slide to power off". Once I power off, I wait a couple of seconds and then press and hold the power button again. I then wait a few minutes until VO comes up speaking. HTH, Teresa "Visualize whirled peas." On May 31, 2012, at 5:53 PM, Grant Hardy wrote: > Hey Mike, again, this is one of the misconceptions going around: this is not > a reboot, not in the least. :) > > Cheers, > > Grant > > - Original Message - > From: "Mike Cassidy" To: Date sent: Thu, 31 May 2012 23:17:39 +0100 > Subject: RE: Force rebooting of iPhone - Was Re: is it normal > > Hi, > > Power and home buttons held is the official way, is it not; it would seem > unwise to me to bash away repetitively at buttons in the hope that the poor > phone will re-boot in despair at the insult applied to it. > > Regards, > > Mike > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Raul A. Gallegos > Sent: 31 May 2012 11:19 > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Force rebooting of iPhone - Was Re: is it normal > > Hi all, I feel that what David and Neil have stated are more correct for > what it's worth. I personally have not looked up or researched whether or > not it's a good idea to force a reboot via the power button being pressed > multiple times, but on the surface it just seems silly and not safe to me. > At least when you do the power button/home button for 12 seconds, it's > giving the iOS system a chance to try and do what it can so that files and > data are not being accessed while the phone is forced to reboot. This is why > it's probably a several second process. > Additionally, it could be that it's on purpose so you don't accidentally > reboot your phone without meaning to. > > Lastly, folks, please update the subject lines. > -- > Raul A. Gallegos > Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream. - George > Bush Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com > Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 > Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 > > On 5/31/2012 6:10 AM, David Chittenden wrote: > Hello Grant, > > My friend is some sort of developer. You can argue for crashing the > springboard all you want saying it will not corrupt any code. My friend says > there is a very slight chance that it could corrupt code. I prefer not to > take that chance. I have corrupted code in a pocket pc which then required > me to do a complete rebuild from my computer. As this takes time which I > prefer not to spend in such fashion, I choose not to take the chance. > > An Apple support person is the one who told me that the home and power > buttons simultaneously for 10 to 12 seconds reboots the phone and properly > restores the driver stacks. From my timing of both restarts, the reboot > takes longer for booting up than the power cycling for booting up. > > To be precise, the higher level support specialist told me to first turn > the iPhone off then on, and once it has come fully on, do the reboot. > > Sorry, but I trust both of these people over what you are saying on the > list. My developer friend is a software engineer. The Apple tech support > person was in the higher tier of support. > > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > > On 31/05/2012, at 19:28, Grant Hardy wrote: > > Hi Neil, the twelve-second holding down of HOME and POWER is a forced > reboot, rather like pressing the REBOOT button on a PC. If system > corruption could occur on an iPhone using the other method (which as > I've said I'm skeptical about), then it most certainly could occur > with the reboot method as well, which does not shut anything down. > > Crashing your springboard is not "a forced collapsing" of the iOS > platform; the springboard is one part of the iOS architecture. It's > the part of iOS from which apps are launched. It does not store any > critical user data. > > I think there are a fair few misconceptions about this topic on list. > I don't mean to be argumentative but it is important that people > understand them, and that if you have a theory (such as that data > corruption could occur) that you make clear that it is just that--a > theory. People who are stating this theory have relatively little > technical data to back it up--case and point, the "forced collapsing > of the iOS system" statement, which this is not. > > Warmly :) > > Grant > > > > On 5/31/12, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > Adrian, > > I agree very much with David's suggestions, the stuttering of Voice > Over is a classic symptom of an over full App Switcher and / or a > handset which is rarely power cycled. > > My strong recommendation for all iOS users, is to empty their Ap
