Re: Sharing Voice Memeos to Facebook or Twitter

[Sharonda Greenlaw]

I decided after much ado to just wait until I got home and publish the link to 
it from Dropbox. I should be able to share from my phone. I'm sad that this is 
not possible.

Sent from my iPhone; please excuse all mistakes 

> On Oct 15, 2013, at 3:03 PM, "Troy Sullivan"  wrote:
> 
> There's an app called audio boo (the name has changed a bit I think it's now 
> audioboo2?, there's a paid and a free version that will let you share audio 
> to fb and twitter, other than that I don't know.
> - Original Message - From: "Sharonda Greenlaw" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 4:47 PM
> Subject: Sharing Voice Memeos to Facebook or Twitter
> 
> 
>> Hello all,
>> Today, I made a ghastly discovery (it was sad for me *smile). Under
>> IOS 7, the Voice Memeos app no longer allows you to share directly to
>> Facebook or Twitter any longer.
>> 
>> Does anyone have any awesome suggestions on how this can be done?
>> Thank you for posting them.
>> 
>> Sharonda
>> 
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Re: Sharing Voice Memeos to Facebook or Twitter

[Sharonda Greenlaw]

I already recorded it in the iPhone voice memos app. I'm wondering how
I can take it from there and share with Facebook or Twitter.

On 10/15/13, Troy Sullivan  wrote:
> There's an app called audio boo (the name has changed a bit I think it's now
>
> audioboo2?, there's a paid and a free version that will let you share audio
>
> to fb and twitter, other than that I don't know.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sharonda Greenlaw" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 4:47 PM
> Subject: Sharing Voice Memeos to Facebook or Twitter
>
>
>> Hello all,
>> Today, I made a ghastly discovery (it was sad for me *smile). Under
>> IOS 7, the Voice Memeos app no longer allows you to share directly to
>> Facebook or Twitter any longer.
>>
>> Does anyone have any awesome suggestions on how this can be done?
>> Thank you for posting them.
>>
>> Sharonda
>>
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>> Facebook: facebook.com/TheSharondaWhiteGreenlaw
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Re: cases for 5s which offer excellent protection

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I concur the outer silicone covering is much improved in the otterbox defender 
for the 5s and the accommodation for the fingerprint reader doesn’t seem to 
have caused any degradation in the built in screen protector in my opinion.
I think this time out they did a great job in its design.
Robin


From: Kliphton --- 
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: cases for 5s which offer excellent protection

I admit they did drop the ball with the 4, the rubber bumper surrounding the 
case got flimsy to quick and warn fast.  But they really improved it with the 
5, and even better with the 5s.  Especially with access to the finger print 
reader, it is sit away from the hole so it doesn't get pushed easily.  And the 
bumper casing is much much tougher.  Also, the head phone jack cover is in line 
with the actual plug, so there is no adjusting for it.  I heard the life proof 
case doesn't allow access to the finger print reader.  Haven't seen one, so 
can't confirm this.  But I also don't want to pay 80 bucks for a case, JMO that 
is a bit high for my liking. 

Kliphton
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On Oct 15, 2013, at 2:46 PM, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:


  Hi, I'd like to say that I purchased a black case of this type for my silver 
iPhone 5s and do like it very much. The built-in screen protector seems to be 
better than those offered by Otter box, although admittedly I haven't seen the 
iPhone 5 version of the Defender Otterbox cases either. I wasn't impressed with 
their iPhone 4 version and so went away from Otterbox. I loved the 3G/3GS 
versions, but feel they dropped the ball with the 4. In any case, this case 
from Ballistic is working out nicely. I don't have access to the finger print 
reader of the home button but that hasn't been an issue yet for me. Knowing me 
and the way I am, I'll most likely be getting another case to try out. This is 
what I do after all, and so will be happy to try out something which protects 
the phone as well and still offers access to the finger print  scanner.

  Cheers.

  --
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  If you're having a bad day, just remember in 1976 Ronald Wayne sold his 10% 
stake in Apple for $2,300. It is now worth $59,565,410,309. - Sheldon Cooper
  Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47

  On 10/14/2013 9:44 AM, Kelly Pierce wrote:

In January, I bought a Ballistic Hard Core case for my iPhone 5.  This
was shortly after the consumer electronics show.  At that time, many
of the vendors who sold rugged and durable electronic equipment to the
military and construction industry were just beginning to offer iPhone
cases for the consumer market.  Their products were going to be
introduced this summer.  My case is better than the Otterbox because
it sandwiches the iPhone tightly between two very hard pieces of
plastic, exposing the screen with a screen protector.  This encases
the iPhone completely and visually the device likely won’t be
recognized as an iPhone.  This sort of defeats the purpose of a golden
iPhone though.  I understand it is elegant and sparkling.  On the
other hand a toddler could pick up  my iPhone in a Hard core case and
give it a forceful toss without damaging it.  It is a little bulky,
but I have the protection of something virtually indestructible.
Otterbox cases clamp the iPhone into place, which can wiggle and
scratch the glass of the screen.  Also the sides of the iPhone are
much more exposed than on the Ballistic iPhone case, which encases the
iPhone completely between a form fitting upper and bottom layer.
Consider the hard core case but also the new cases from the rugged
device companies.

Kelly




On 10/14/13, Lois Butterfield  wrote:

  I got the commuter and didn't like it.  It was a loose enough fit that the
  phone would slide closer to the top, which made it hard to open the 
portals
  in the bottom to get to things.  I ended up with an S TPU case that is
  clear.  If I want more protection, I put the phone with case on inside a
  wallet or other slide-in case that I can clip to what I'm wearing.  It 
also
  fits in most phone pockets in purses.  I have the commuter to fall back on
  should I ever want that protection.



  This set-up works well for me, but I am very careful with my phone.  It
  doesn't get dropped.



  Take care,

  Lois





  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
  Of Isaac Hebert
  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:41 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: cases for 5s which offer excellent protection



  You can get the otterbox commuter series at amazon.

  Sent from my iPhone


  On Oct 14

Strange Dong noise in maps tracking with headings iOS 7

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Hi all,
I am currently discussing with apple accessibility an issue I reported and they 
cannot clearly verify it or don't seem to get my description. SO, I am curious 
if any of you has seen this and approached them with this.

When I turn on tracking with headings my iPhone 5 with iOS 7.02 gives off a 
series of dongs kind of like when you try to flick past the last element on the 
screen. FOr me they repeat at constant intervals when stationary and I think 
also when I am walking but can't bet on this. Time is about 4 sec. This is 
regardless wether I am navigating a route or not.

They appear to think that, if phone is stationary, this sound repeats more and 
more oftenn and suppose it is to remind you that you are using GPS and draining 
your battery. THis does not make sense to me and I personally think this dong 
constantly sounding off is either a bug with the way my phone works or in iOS 
7.\My husband's phone is giving off sae regular repeating sounds when 
stationary. Haven't tried moving around with it. Will do so soon.

Any thoughts,
Ioana 



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RE: List recorder not deleting lists.

[Grant Hardy]

I am having the same issue. I suspect that this is a bug. List Recorder
hasn't been updated in some time, but here's hoping they'll push out an
update for iOS 7 users.

Grant

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Gerard Doody
Sent: October 15, 2013 5:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: List recorder not deleting lists.

Hello folks, I have had list recorder for some time now.  I along with many
others, have upgraded to ios 7. Now I am unable to delete a list which is
either full or empty from the home screen. Any suggestions would be helpful.
I seem to be able to get to the point where I can select the list I want to
get rid of, but then the screen seems to freeze.  Thanks in advance. 

Jerry Doody
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RE: [IDevices] {Disarmed} FW: If You Think iOS 7 Feels Slow Here's How to Speed It Up

[Grant Hardy]

Facebook notifications are pushed from the server side so background refresh
is not necessary.

Grant

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Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: October 15, 2013 7:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [IDevices] {Disarmed} FW: If You Think iOS 7 Feels Slow Here's
How to Speed It Up

I was wondering the  same thing especially since facebook posts
notifications. To do this it must work in the background.

On 10/15/13, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> Oops, sorry about that. I just meant that as an example. I don't have 
> Facebook in my list either. I meant Four Square, which I actually have 
> on. I have apps like Stocks and Wordpress set to off.
>
> On 10/15/2013 05:08 PM, Troy Sullivan wrote:
>> I do not see facebook in my list of refreshed apps, why is this?
>> - Original Message - From: "Victor Gouveia"
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [IDevices] {Disarmed} FW: If You Think iOS 7 Feels Slow 
>> Here's How to Speed It Up
>>
>>
>>> Grant specifically stated that it was possible to control the 
>>> individual app's ability to refresh itself instead of using the 
>>> global refresh control found in the general settings.
>>>
>>> My apologies for being so vague, I was under the impression that no 
>>> one else cared about my question since only Grant responded to it.
>>>
>>> Again, I do apologize for the misunderstanding.
>>>
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Re: [IDevices] {Disarmed} FW: If You Think iOS 7 Feels Slow Here's How to Speed It Up

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I was wondering the  same thing especially since facebook posts
notifications. To do this it must work in the background.

On 10/15/13, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> Oops, sorry about that. I just meant that as an example. I don't have
> Facebook in my list either. I meant Four Square, which I actually have
> on. I have apps like Stocks and Wordpress set to off.
>
> On 10/15/2013 05:08 PM, Troy Sullivan wrote:
>> I do not see facebook in my list of refreshed apps, why is this?
>> - Original Message - From: "Victor Gouveia"
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [IDevices] {Disarmed} FW: If You Think iOS 7 Feels Slow
>> Here's How to Speed It Up
>>
>>
>>> Grant specifically stated that it was possible to control the
>>> individual app's ability to refresh itself instead of using the global
>>> refresh control found in the general settings.
>>>
>>> My apologies for being so vague, I was under the impression that no
>>> one else cared about my question since only Grant responded to it.
>>>
>>> Again, I do apologize for the misunderstanding.
>>>
>>>
>>> Victor Gouveia
>>> Vice-President
>>> Training Coordinator
>>> VIP Tech
>>> Phone: 1 (888) 737-1115
>>> Fax: 1 (888) 737-1116
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Re: Accessible metronome

[Richard Turner]

I would suggest checking out Gigbaby Free. It has a metronome, drum kit and a 
four track recorder.
If you like it, the full version is called Gigdaddy and is $2.99 and adds more 
recording and sharing features.


Gigbaby link:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/gigbabyfree!/id306833575?mt=8
Richard
(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)

> On Oct 13, 2013, at 9:20 PM, Jun Jun Limbo  wrote:
> 
> Hello...do uou have suggestion for an accessible metronome?Sent from my iPhone
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Re: cases for 5s which offer excellent protection

[Kliphton -------]

I admit they did drop the ball with the 4, the rubber bumper surrounding the 
case got flimsy to quick and warn fast.  But they really improved it with the 
5, and even better with the 5s.  Especially with access to the finger print 
reader, it is sit away from the hole so it doesn't get pushed easily.  And the 
bumper casing is much much tougher.  Also, the head phone jack cover is in line 
with the actual plug, so there is no adjusting for it.  I heard the life proof 
case doesn't allow access to the finger print reader.  Haven't seen one, so 
can't confirm this.  But I also don't want to pay 80 bucks for a case, JMO that 
is a bit high for my liking.

Kliphton
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On Oct 15, 2013, at 2:46 PM, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:

> Hi, I'd like to say that I purchased a black case of this type for my silver 
> iPhone 5s and do like it very much. The built-in screen protector seems to be 
> better than those offered by Otter box, although admittedly I haven't seen 
> the iPhone 5 version of the Defender Otterbox cases either. I wasn't 
> impressed with their iPhone 4 version and so went away from Otterbox. I loved 
> the 3G/3GS versions, but feel they dropped the ball with the 4. In any case, 
> this case from Ballistic is working out nicely. I don't have access to the 
> finger print reader of the home button but that hasn't been an issue yet for 
> me. Knowing me and the way I am, I'll most likely be getting another case to 
> try out. This is what I do after all, and so will be happy to try out 
> something which protects the phone as well and still offers access to the 
> finger print  scanner.
> 
> Cheers.
> 
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> 
> On 10/14/2013 9:44 AM, Kelly Pierce wrote:
>> In January, I bought a Ballistic Hard Core case for my iPhone 5.  This
>> was shortly after the consumer electronics show.  At that time, many
>> of the vendors who sold rugged and durable electronic equipment to the
>> military and construction industry were just beginning to offer iPhone
>> cases for the consumer market.  Their products were going to be
>> introduced this summer.  My case is better than the Otterbox because
>> it sandwiches the iPhone tightly between two very hard pieces of
>> plastic, exposing the screen with a screen protector.  This encases
>> the iPhone completely and visually the device likely won’t be
>> recognized as an iPhone.  This sort of defeats the purpose of a golden
>> iPhone though.  I understand it is elegant and sparkling.  On the
>> other hand a toddler could pick up  my iPhone in a Hard core case and
>> give it a forceful toss without damaging it.  It is a little bulky,
>> but I have the protection of something virtually indestructible.
>> Otterbox cases clamp the iPhone into place, which can wiggle and
>> scratch the glass of the screen.  Also the sides of the iPhone are
>> much more exposed than on the Ballistic iPhone case, which encases the
>> iPhone completely between a form fitting upper and bottom layer.
>> Consider the hard core case but also the new cases from the rugged
>> device companies.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/14/13, Lois Butterfield  wrote:
>>> I got the commuter and didn't like it.  It was a loose enough fit that the
>>> phone would slide closer to the top, which made it hard to open the portals
>>> in the bottom to get to things.  I ended up with an S TPU case that is
>>> clear.  If I want more protection, I put the phone with case on inside a
>>> wallet or other slide-in case that I can clip to what I'm wearing.  It also
>>> fits in most phone pockets in purses.  I have the commuter to fall back on
>>> should I ever want that protection.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This set-up works well for me, but I am very careful with my phone.  It
>>> doesn't get dropped.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take care,
>>> 
>>> Lois
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Isaac Hebert
>>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:41 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: cases for 5s which offer excellent protection
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You can get the otterbox commuter series at amazon.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 14, 2013, at 8:26 AM, "Kellie and my lab pack"
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey all,
>>> 
>>> so I finally placed my order for a gold 5s and am waiting, probably not so
>>> patiently, for it to arrive. it is going to be a while. *lol*
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> While I wait, I have been trying to read up on possible case options. I
>>> find
>>> that many say they work for the 5, but no mention of the 5s. I assume th

Re: Mofi case with iPhone 5S?

[Mike Arrigo]

I think the 5s may pull more power since it has a faster processor. I would go 
for the plus version, it's the most powerful case they make. In my opinion, 
these are the best iphone cases you can get. They extend the battery life and 
you can use a micro USB cable to charge both batteries instead of Apple's 
proprietary nonsense.
On Oct 15, 2013, at 3:22 PM, shaf  wrote:

> I'm using the air, and I'm only getting a 50 percent charge from it. I
> have tried 2 cases with the same result. Is it just my bad luck or is
> this the case with all mofi cases that were designed for the 5 using
> the 5S?
> 
> 
> -Shaf
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Re: Interesting bug in Bard App

[brian albriton]

  There are those books that have the announcement this book was originally 
recorded for cassette playback. And more often than not, on different players, 
you will indeed hear that site three or side for. It's pretty amusing. And kind 
of sentimental I am about it. As for the magazine and announcement from going 
from cassette the digital that does actually belong there because it's well 
actually true. Enjoy   

> On Oct 15, 2013, at 4:14 PM, "Terrie Terlau"  wrote:
> 
> I also have encountered this twice. I was able to read through the spot as 
> follows:
> The book read the end of track message and then jumped back a chapter. I 
> navigated forward till I came to the chapter after the one I had been reading 
> and used rewind. I rewound to before the end of track announcement and, this 
> time, in both cases, the book did not skip backward.
>  
> Terrie Terlau
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Ring
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Interesting bug in Bard App
>  
> Greetings:
> The bug I am about to describe only occurs when reading a Bard book that was 
> converted from cassette to digital format. Here's what happens. You are 
> reading along, and you suddenly hear a phrase such as "end of side x" where X 
> is any side number. Suddenly, the book jumps back by at least one navigation 
> unit. How far the book jumps back depends upon the mark up present in the 
> book. In some books, this can be a chapter, while in others whose mark up is 
> not as thorough, you can jump to the beginning of a part or story you are 
> reading.
> I realize that nothing can be done about this until the Government opens 
> again, I wonder, however, if anyone else has encountered this one.
>  
> 
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New YouTube update

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

 

So a YouTube update was made available today. It looks like a lot of that
extra unlabled button chatter was cleaned up along with a better layout when
playing a video. A nice improvement from the last update for sure. 

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List recorder not deleting lists.

[Gerard Doody]

Hello folks, I have had list recorder for some time now.  I along with many 
others, have upgraded to ios 7. Now I am unable to delete a list which is 
either full or empty from the home screen. Any suggestions would be helpful.  I 
seem to be able to get to the point where I can select the list I want to get 
rid of, but then the screen seems to freeze.  Thanks in advance. 

Jerry Doody
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Re: possible zello channel

[Victor Hugo Gallegos]

Hello! I believe somebody already created a V iPhone Zillow channel. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 11, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Eric Whitten  wrote:
> 
> I was thinking about if we could have a zello channel for this group. I am 
> just thinking outloud here, but it would be cool if we could have something 
> besides email maybe? Please let me know if you guys want a channel on zello 
> for viiphone. 
> 
> Eric Whitten,
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Re: The iPhone 5S Motion Sensors Are Totally Screwed Up - gizmodo.com

[Crystal French]

Well, I was curious about my 5s, and tried it on several flat surfaces in my 
home.

It always gave a reading of minus 1 degree.

Which didn’t make me any smarter.  

Crystal 


From: John Diakogeorgiou 
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: The iPhone 5S Motion Sensors Are Totally Screwed Up - gizmodo.com

Just out of curiousity I tried using the level with my wife's 5 and my
5s which was received the Tuesday after they went on sale. Their is a
difference of about 3 degrees between the two phones with hers showing
0 and mine -3 which is about a/4 inch off the table. I tried it on a
couple of different surfaces in case one wasn't flat and got the same
results. I did not try the compass part because I don't think the
difference is as important. Although I hope
Apple some how fixes this I don't think it will have too much effect
since I don't use the phone for woodworking.

On 10/14/13, Grant Hardy  wrote:
> Oh for sure, many navigation apps use the compass. I just meant that in my
> experience usually navigation apps don't rely on it exclusively because
> there's lots of information like your heading that can be derived from GPS.
>
> Please post tomorrow after you've taken your shiny new phone out of the box
> and let us know whether your sensors seem to work properly. I agree with
> you, everyone has at least one year of warranty (more if you buy Apple Care
> Plus) so I don't think I'll sweat it too much at this point especially
> considering that the majority of phones seem to exhibit this behaviour. Or
> rather, the majority of people who have posted about this issue around the
> internet can replicate it.
>
> Grant
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: October 14, 2013 3:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: The iPhone 5S Motion Sensors Are Totally Screwed Up -
> gizmodo.com
>
> Hi Grant,
>
> Some apps do use the compass (Blindsquare is one) but I am not sure if the
> variance described is enough to make a real difference. I am getting my 5S
> tomorrow (HaHaHa, beat you) and I certainly appreciated Cara posting this
> because at least one has a chance to specifically test for these issues. I
> am a woodworker and I do build things and do my own
> renovations/modifications to my home to a large degree, but it's not like
> I'd ever use my iPhone as my authorative level, it's much to short to be
> really precise. I have a dedicated audio level and even that is only 12
> inches and there is a reason why framers use 4 foot long levels. I can see
> how this might affect hard-core gamers which I am not and I suspect it will
> be an academic problem for me, certainly not enough to scare me off like
> Pablo who cancelled his order, but if I wasn't in a big hurry and my iPhone
> wasn't due to arrive tomorrow I might consider that. Anyhow, I have 1 year
> of warranty and I bought Apple Care so I am quite convinced that if I could
> replicate this issue and it was quite serious I could get a replacement in
> a
> couple of month when Apple has made the appropriate modifications.
>
> On a general note, I think it must be a real nightmare to discover all of
> these bugs and get them fixed. There are so many functions and features
> some
> of which are very specific. I know it's easy to say "How can Apple release
> a
> phone which has such obvious bugs" or "How can they release iOS 7 when it
> has such obvious bugs". But it's always easier to play Monday morning
> Quarterback and to draw on what tens of millions users report in the first
> few weeks of using a new iiOS or a new device.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
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RE: Interesting bug in Bard App

[Terrie Terlau]

I also have encountered this twice. I was able to read through the spot as
follows:

The book read the end of track message and then jumped back a chapter. I
navigated forward till I came to the chapter after the one I had been
reading and used rewind. I rewound to before the end of track announcement
and, this time, in both cases, the book did not skip backward.

 

Terrie Terlau

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Ring
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Interesting bug in Bard App

 

Greetings:

The bug I am about to describe only occurs when reading a Bard book that was
converted from cassette to digital format. Here's what happens. You are
reading along, and you suddenly hear a phrase such as "end of side x" where
X is any side number. Suddenly, the book jumps back by at least one
navigation unit. How far the book jumps back depends upon the mark up
present in the book. In some books, this can be a chapter, while in others
whose mark up is not as thorough, you can jump to the beginning of a part or
story you are reading.

I realize that nothing can be done about this until the Government opens
again, I wonder, however, if anyone else has encountered this one.

 


You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of
Fielding

 Sent from my Mac Book Pro 

richr...@gmail.com

 

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Re: [IDevices] {Disarmed} FW: If You Think iOS 7 Feels Slow Here's How to Speed It Up

[Christopher Chaltain]

Oops, sorry about that. I just meant that as an example. I don't have 
Facebook in my list either. I meant Four Square, which I actually have 
on. I have apps like Stocks and Wordpress set to off.


On 10/15/2013 05:08 PM, Troy Sullivan wrote:

I do not see facebook in my list of refreshed apps, why is this?
- Original Message - From: "Victor Gouveia"

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [IDevices] {Disarmed} FW: If You Think iOS 7 Feels Slow
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Grant specifically stated that it was possible to control the
individual app's ability to refresh itself instead of using the global
refresh control found in the general settings.

My apologies for being so vague, I was under the impression that no
one else cared about my question since only Grant responded to it.

Again, I do apologize for the misunderstanding.


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Re: [IDevices] {Disarmed} FW: If You Think iOS 7 Feels Slow Here's How to Speed It Up

[Troy Sullivan]

I do not see facebook in my list of refreshed apps, why is this?
- Original Message - 
From: "Victor Gouveia" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [IDevices] {Disarmed} FW: If You Think iOS 7 Feels Slow Here's 
How to Speed It Up



Grant specifically stated that it was possible to control the individual 
app's ability to refresh itself instead of using the global refresh 
control found in the general settings.


My apologies for being so vague, I was under the impression that no one 
else cared about my question since only Grant responded to it.


Again, I do apologize for the misunderstanding.


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Re: Sharing Voice Memeos to Facebook or Twitter

[Troy Sullivan]

There's an app called audio boo (the name has changed a bit I think it's now 
audioboo2?, there's a paid and a free version that will let you share audio 
to fb and twitter, other than that I don't know.
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Subject: Sharing Voice Memeos to Facebook or Twitter



Hello all,
Today, I made a ghastly discovery (it was sad for me *smile). Under
IOS 7, the Voice Memeos app no longer allows you to share directly to
Facebook or Twitter any longer.

Does anyone have any awesome suggestions on how this can be done?
Thank you for posting them.

Sharonda

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Re: Any problems people have with the iPhone 5C

[John Diakogeorgiou]

Sorry I thought I heard that they were the same.

On 10/14/13, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> The 5C has a slightly larger battery and that I s slightly larger
> physically.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of John Diakogeorgiou
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 7:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Any problems people have with the iPhone 5C
>
> I think that the 5C has the same battery as the 5 but rather the software
> is
> better optimized. Some one correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> On 10/14/13, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Hi Cait,
>>
>>
>>
>> Just as a suggestion, did you check what the audio routing is set to
>> in the Accessibility settings?
>>
>> Anyhow, I'd rather have it go and stay on the earpiece since I wish
>> Apple would take out this automatic switching to speakerphone. I see
>> little reason why a Voiceover user can't tap the Speakerphone button
>> if the call should be on Speakerphone just like any sighted person. I
>> think overall this automatic switching to speakerphone causes more
>> issues than what it's worth.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sieghard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Cait and Maggie
>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 2:32 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Any problems people have with the iPhone 5C
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a 5 C and love it.
>>
>>
>>
>> the problems I've experienced have been some of those related to
> voiceover.
>> these are a different screen sensitivity since installing OS7.x(I get
>> this on my i pad 2, also), when a call comes in, the phone
>> automatically goes to earpiece/up to the ear mode, even if I'm holding it
> away from my face.
>>
>>
>>
>> Other then the little software things, which I think will even out as
>> time goes on, the hardware seems nice.  The phone is light but not overly
> so.
>>
>> hth,
>>
>> Cait
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2013-10-14, at 5:16 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Neil,
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't see why she should have any issues with the 5C, it's basically
>> a 5 in a plastic housing. Any reviews of both the 5C and 5S I read on
>> sites like Engaged, The Verge etc. have been very positive and if she
>> doesn't use Voiceover and you really want feedback from other sighted
>> users I suggest doing a Google search about "iPhone 5C complaints" or
>> "iPhone 5C reviews".
>> You could also send a message to Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast and
>> ask if he could ask people in his audience who bought a 5C to call in
>> with their thoughts on the 5C. The email address is
>>  t...@gmail.com. I even suggest to listen to this
>> weeks Today in iOS Podcast which most likely should be out later this
>> week since he has only done one since the 5S and 5C release so there
>> will most likelybe be people calling in with their thoughts, reviews
>> or concerns. He normally does the Podcast weekly, but it's now been 2
>> weeks and since it's likely Apple sends out their invites tomorrow for
>> next weeks iPad event, I am sure he will have an episode in a few
>> days. I find Today in iOS to be a very informative Podcast and well
>> worth the listen once a week.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sieghard
>>
>>
>>
>> From:   viphone@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:viphone@  googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Neal Ewers
>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 11:26 AM
>> To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Any problems people have with the iPhone 5C
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi, Muy wife wanted to purchase a Verizon contract with the iPhone 5.
>> She was told they were no longer being sold. So, my question. Are
>> there thos of you who have the iPhone 5C and if so, have you
>> encountered any problems yet.
>> I was a bit put off by Kara's message earlier, not by Kara, of course,
>> but by what the message had to say. My wife will not want to spend
>> that much money anyway, so she will settle for the 5C. But I thought I
>> would see if anyone who is using it has found any problems with it.
>> She will not be using VoiceOver.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks much for your help.
>>
>>
>>
>> Neal
>>
>>
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Re: Fwd: [IDevices] {Disarmed} FW: If You Think iOS 7 Feels Slow Here’s How to Speed It Up

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I would suggest turning off the apps that you don't want running in
the background automatically individually rather than all of them.
This is done in the same location.

On 10/15/13, Victor Gouveia  wrote:
> The only problem with suggestion number 2, that of turning off the
> background refresh is that you won’t be able to use two apps for
> navigation.
>
> For example, I use Navigon and Blind Square.  Turning off the background
> refresh means' I’ll only be able to rely on one app, and not both.
>
> Is my assessment correct on this, or am I missing something that has been
> discussed on the list?
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Re: viphone zello channel pasword

[Isaac Hebert]

I just joined the channel.

On 10/15/13, Anne Günther  wrote:
> Hi
> The channel ist there.
> The password was posted this morning, (german time).
> It's iphoneisgood
> Guenni
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Re: The iPhone 5S Motion Sensors Are Totally Screwed Up - gizmodo.com

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I don't see how this could  be a software since it doesn't affect
older phones. By the way I beaqt all of you. I ordered mine the day it
went on sale and received it the Wednesday after.

On 10/15/13, Isaac Hebert  wrote:
> Yes it is amazing how they ship them.
>
> On 10/15/13, Rick Alfaro  wrote:
>> Beat both of you guys. (lol)
>>
>> I got mine last Tuesday. It's amazing how they ship these. My phone's
>> origin
>> scan was in China on Saturday the 5th and in my hands Tuesday morning the
>> 8th. It went from China, to Korea, to Alaska, to Kentucky to my home in
>> South Florida. Pretty impressive.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Rick Alfaro
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 6:17 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: The iPhone 5S Motion Sensors Are Totally Screwed Up -
>> gizmodo.com
>>
>> Hi Grant,
>>
>> Some apps do use the compass (Blindsquare is one) but I am not sure if
>> the
>> variance described is enough to make a real difference. I am getting my
>> 5S
>> tomorrow (HaHaHa, beat you) and I certainly appreciated Cara posting this
>> because at least one has a chance to specifically test for these issues.
>> I
>> am a woodworker and I do build things and do my own
>> renovations/modifications to my home to a large degree, but it's not like
>> I'd ever use my iPhone as my authorative level, it's much to short to be
>> really precise. I have a dedicated audio level and even that is only 12
>> inches and there is a reason why framers use 4 foot long levels. I can
>> see
>> how this might affect hard-core gamers which I am not and I suspect it
>> will
>> be an academic problem for me, certainly not enough to scare me off like
>> Pablo who cancelled his order, but if I wasn't in a big hurry and my
>> iPhone
>> wasn't due to arrive tomorrow I might consider that. Anyhow, I have 1
>> year
>> of warranty and I bought Apple Care so I am quite convinced that if I
>> could
>> replicate this issue and it was quite serious I could get a replacement
>> in
>> a
>> couple of month when Apple has made the appropriate modifications.
>>
>> On a general note, I think it must be a real nightmare to discover all of
>> these bugs and get them fixed. There are so many functions and features
>> some
>> of which are very specific. I know it's easy to say "How can Apple
>> release
>> a
>> phone which has such obvious bugs" or "How can they release iOS 7 when it
>> has such obvious bugs". But it's always easier to play Monday morning
>> Quarterback and to draw on what tens of millions users report in the
>> first
>> few weeks of using a new iiOS or a new device.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
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re: Mofi case with iPhone 5S?

[robert stigile]

Hello,
I have a mophi case for my i phone 5.
I have the air and it charges up to 100 percent everytime.
If you are only getting 51 percent, then I suggest you let Mophi 
know.
Depending on what you use your phone for, you should get anywhere 
from 85 to 100 percent.



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- Original Message -
From: shaf I'm using the air, and I'm only getting a 50 percent charge from 
it.  I
have tried 2 cases with the same result.  Is it just my bad luck 
or is
this the case with all mofi cases that were designed for the 5 
using

the 5S?


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Re: apple forcing updates yet again

[John Diakogeorgiou]

Considering that more than 65% of IPhones have been updated to 7 I
don't see the big deal.

On 10/15/13, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> It's not really the issue, but how much space does this image really
> take up? I've heard that the download size varries from 750M to 1.2G for
> Verizon users. 3G is only needed during the install process. How do
> people know it's really taking up 3G of their space? I wonder if some
> uncompressing is going on after the image is downloaded, although I'd
> expect this just to be done during the install process itself. It would
> be pretty unfortunate for those 8G and 16G iPhone users who don't want
> to move up to IOS 7 to lose even more space if the image is untangled in
> preparation for the install.
>
> On 10/15/2013 10:40 AM, Amy Billman wrote:
>> I will say though that once the update is at least downloaded (not
>> installed,) it will give you no choice but to update it in full because
>> that
>> download's just sitting there eating three gb of space.
>> I'm sure eventually there will be no choice but to update, but there's no
>> way for it to happen accidentally or at the very least, without the terms
>> and conditions being agreed to.
>> Although... If you're running the latest iTunes and want to back up your
>> phone, will it only allow you to update to iOS7? I'm running it because
>> there's no reason not to, so I'm not sure how that would work... I know
>> itunes recognizes that your software is out of date, but unsure if you
>> can
>> proceed with doing a backup without upgrading to the latest.
>> Sadly though, regardless of how it happened or what the cause was,
>> contacting disability services wil likely be an exercise in extreme
>> futility, since once you've upgraded, you're running it whether you want
>> to
>> or not; from what Apple has told me anyway... *shrug* Nothing disability
>> department can do one way or the other since it's not an accessibility or
>> disability related issue.
>>
>> Amy Billman
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:35 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: apple forcing updates yet again
>>
>> Hi Paula,
>>
>> I suspect that maybe whoever was helping her might have inadvertently
>> tapped
>> Install or said Yes when asked to update, but you still have to Agree
>> twice
>> to the Terms and Conditions and I really can't see how if you tap Decline
>> it
>> would not let you out of the screen.
>>
>> A couple of weeks ago somebody also posted that iOS 7 installed on their
>> phone automatically and I mean "installed" not just downloaded and there
>> is
>> just no way it would do so because you just have to double tap I Agree
>> and
>> then double tap it a second time.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Marianne Denning
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:09 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: apple forcing updates yet again
>>
>> Paula, I would contact the disability support number at Apple.  That is
>> strange because I have not heard of that happening to anyone.
>> There were 2 people at our meeting last night who had not upgraded and
>> they
>> didn't have that problem.  Lots of luck!
>> On 10/15/13, Paul and Paula Jordan  wrote:
>>> Hi, everyone. A coworker has an IPhone 5 running IOS 6.  She does not
>>> want to update right now.  Yesterday someone was helping her with her
>>> phone, and the phone asked if she wanted to update.  The only option
>>> was "ok".  There appears to be no way to get out of that screen.  We
>>> tried re-setting the phone by holding down the lock and home button
>>> for 10 seconds and just turning the phone off and back on again.
>>> There still seemed to be no way to get out of the update prompt.
>>> Going into the app switcher still didn't work.  Anyone have any
>>> thoughts?  I'm disappointed to see this with no option to cancel.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> God bless!
>>>
>>> Paula and Babe
>>>
>>>
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Sharing Voice Memeos to Facebook or Twitter

[Sharonda Greenlaw]

Hello all,
Today, I made a ghastly discovery (it was sad for me *smile). Under
IOS 7, the Voice Memeos app no longer allows you to share directly to
Facebook or Twitter any longer.

Does anyone have any awesome suggestions on how this can be done?
Thank you for posting them.

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RE: Interesting bug in Bard App

[Debbie Downey]

When reading a book that was converted to digital from cassette; I noticed
that in the navigation area it said chapter 9 but I was only in chapter 4.

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 11:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Interesting bug in Bard App

Hi Rich,

Yes, I had the same thing happen with a book converted from cassette. It
will definitely be worth reporting when the shutdown is over.

Best,
Anna



On Oct 15, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Richard Ring  wrote:

> Greetings:
> The bug I am about to describe only occurs when reading a Bard book that
was converted from cassette to digital format. Here's what happens. You are
reading along, and you suddenly hear a phrase such as "end of side x" where
X is any side number. Suddenly, the book jumps back by at least one
navigation unit. How far the book jumps back depends upon the mark up
present in the book. In some books, this can be a chapter, while in others
whose mark up is not as thorough, you can jump to the beginning of a part or
story you are reading.
> I realize that nothing can be done about this until the Government opens
again, I wonder, however, if anyone else has encountered this one.
> 
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Mofi case with iPhone 5S?

[shaf]

I'm using the air, and I'm only getting a 50 percent charge from it. I
have tried 2 cases with the same result. Is it just my bad luck or is
this the case with all mofi cases that were designed for the 5 using
the 5S?


-Shaf

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Re: cases for 5s which offer excellent protection

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi, I'd like to say that I purchased a black case of this type for my 
silver iPhone 5s and do like it very much. The built-in screen protector 
seems to be better than those offered by Otter box, although admittedly 
I haven't seen the iPhone 5 version of the Defender Otterbox cases 
either. I wasn't impressed with their iPhone 4 version and so went away 
from Otterbox. I loved the 3G/3GS versions, but feel they dropped the 
ball with the 4. In any case, this case from Ballistic is working out 
nicely. I don't have access to the finger print reader of the home 
button but that hasn't been an issue yet for me. Knowing me and the way 
I am, I'll most likely be getting another case to try out. This is what 
I do after all, and so will be happy to try out something which protects 
the phone as well and still offers access to the finger print  scanner.


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On 10/14/2013 9:44 AM, Kelly Pierce wrote:

In January, I bought a Ballistic Hard Core case for my iPhone 5.  This
was shortly after the consumer electronics show.  At that time, many
of the vendors who sold rugged and durable electronic equipment to the
military and construction industry were just beginning to offer iPhone
cases for the consumer market.  Their products were going to be
introduced this summer.  My case is better than the Otterbox because
it sandwiches the iPhone tightly between two very hard pieces of
plastic, exposing the screen with a screen protector.  This encases
the iPhone completely and visually the device likely won’t be
recognized as an iPhone.  This sort of defeats the purpose of a golden
iPhone though.  I understand it is elegant and sparkling.  On the
other hand a toddler could pick up  my iPhone in a Hard core case and
give it a forceful toss without damaging it.  It is a little bulky,
but I have the protection of something virtually indestructible.
Otterbox cases clamp the iPhone into place, which can wiggle and
scratch the glass of the screen.  Also the sides of the iPhone are
much more exposed than on the Ballistic iPhone case, which encases the
iPhone completely between a form fitting upper and bottom layer.
Consider the hard core case but also the new cases from the rugged
device companies.

Kelly




On 10/14/13, Lois Butterfield  wrote:

I got the commuter and didn't like it.  It was a loose enough fit that the
phone would slide closer to the top, which made it hard to open the portals
in the bottom to get to things.  I ended up with an S TPU case that is
clear.  If I want more protection, I put the phone with case on inside a
wallet or other slide-in case that I can clip to what I'm wearing.  It also
fits in most phone pockets in purses.  I have the commuter to fall back on
should I ever want that protection.



This set-up works well for me, but I am very careful with my phone.  It
doesn't get dropped.



Take care,

Lois





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Isaac Hebert
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: cases for 5s which offer excellent protection



You can get the otterbox commuter series at amazon.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 14, 2013, at 8:26 AM, "Kellie and my lab pack"

wrote:

Hey all,

so I finally placed my order for a gold 5s and am waiting, probably not so
patiently, for it to arrive. it is going to be a while. *lol*



While I wait, I have been trying to read up on possible case options. I
find
that many say they work for the 5, but no mention of the 5s. I assume this
is do to the finger print sensor.



I am curious on what cases are out there that offer excellent protection
for
the phone. everyone seems to be promoting the otter box, however, that is
what I currently have for my 4s and it has not lived up to expectations. I
like the Otter box concept and would like to know are there any other cases
out there, which are similar. I want the phone completely encased and to
include a built in screen protector. Also, I don't want the case to be any
bulkier then the Otter box. Slimmer is better.





My husband is thinking of just getting one of the leather cases from apple
for his phone but I don't think that will be sufficient protection for my
liking. Thoughts, opinions and ideas would be appreciated.



Kellie, guide Loki and retired July

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Re: This might be interesting for blindsquare users

[Ari Moisio]

Hi

Strange... do you live in a city or at countryside?  Heve you checked some 
bigger city in the simulation mode to find out  if there are more streeets 
and crossings. Could you check with the OpenStreetMap site if there are 
mapped roads around your location.


OSM coverage  is quite good nowadays so i doubpt missing coverage might be 
the problem.




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Subject: Re: This might be interesting for blindsquare users
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 20:49:49 +0200
From: Krister Ekstrom 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Hi,
I have actually tried to contact the developer but have yet to get answers on 
why blindsquare doesn't tell intersections or even street names. It tells me 
POis and adresses ok, but streets and intersections, no way jose.
/Krister

15 okt 2013 kl. 16:38 skrev Sieghard Weitzel :


Hi Krister,

Have you contacted the developer? Did they tell you it should work in
Sweden? Anyhow, I thought Blindsquare uses Google Maps and Foresquare so one
would  assume that it should work if google Maps works.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: This might be interesting for blindsquare users

Hi,
If the developer is listening i have this to say: It would be fun to
participate, however i can't since it appears that Blindsquare doesn't work
properly in Sweden. Either that or you know something i don't know that
makes the whole thing work.
/Krister

14 okt 2013 kl. 23:21 skrev Anne Günther :


Hi
I got the link in another Mailinglist, sounds interesting.
http://blindsquare.com/challenge/
Guenni

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Re: [IDevices] {Disarmed} FW: If You Think iOS 7 Feels Slow Here's How to Speed It Up

[Victor Gouveia]

I'll check it out, thanks for the help.


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Re: [IDevices] {Disarmed} FW: If You Think iOS 7 Feels Slow Here's How to Speed It Up

[Christopher Chaltain]

When I go into Settings -> General -> Backup App Refresh, I see a button 
at the top that says "Background app refresh". In my case, I have this 
turned on. Down below, I see a list of specific apps, and I can toggle 
this feature on or off for each app. For example, I have Facebook off 
but I have Google Maps on. This way you can incrementally improve 
performance and battery life by specifying those apps that you want to 
be refreshed in the background and those you don't, instead of the more 
draconian measure of just turning off background app refreshing altogether.


On 10/15/2013 02:01 PM, Victor Gouveia wrote:

Hi Chris,

The reason I asked my follow up question, which you responded to, was
because I didn't specifically see that particular feature when I toggled
the App Refresh on and off, so I thought it might lie somewhere else
within the settings, or possibly within each app's settings.

Any chance you can elaborate for me?

Thanks.


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Re: [IDevices] {Disarmed} FW: If You Think iOS 7 Feels Slow Here's How to Speed It Up

[Victor Gouveia]

Hi Chris,

The reason I asked my follow up question, which you responded to, was 
because I didn't specifically see that particular feature when I toggled the 
App Refresh on and off, so I thought it might lie somewhere else within the 
settings, or possibly within each app's settings.


Any chance you can elaborate for me?

Thanks.


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Re: [IDevices] {Disarmed} FW: If You Think iOS 7 Feels Slow Here's How to Speed It Up

[Christopher Chaltain]

OK, I think I pointed to where that could be done, e.g. Settings -> 
General -> Background App Refreshing. I am not sure I recall your 
original question, but if Grant answered it then there wouldn't be any 
reason for me or anyone else to weigh in and add to list traffic 
unnecessarily. that doesn't mean that others don't care though or 
couldn't answer follow up questions.


On 10/15/2013 01:39 PM, Victor Gouveia wrote:

Grant specifically stated that it was possible to control the individual
app's ability to refresh itself instead of using the global refresh
control found in the general settings.

My apologies for being so vague, I was under the impression that no one
else cared about my question since only Grant responded to it.

Again, I do apologize for the misunderstanding.


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Re: This might be interesting for blindsquare users

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi,
I have actually tried to contact the developer but have yet to get answers on 
why blindsquare doesn't tell intersections or even street names. It tells me 
POis and adresses ok, but streets and intersections, no way jose.
/Krister

15 okt 2013 kl. 16:38 skrev Sieghard Weitzel :

> Hi Krister,
> 
> Have you contacted the developer? Did they tell you it should work in
> Sweden? Anyhow, I thought Blindsquare uses Google Maps and Foresquare so one
> would  assume that it should work if google Maps works.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Of Krister Ekstrom
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: This might be interesting for blindsquare users
> 
> Hi,
> If the developer is listening i have this to say: It would be fun to
> participate, however i can't since it appears that Blindsquare doesn't work
> properly in Sweden. Either that or you know something i don't know that
> makes the whole thing work.
> /Krister
> 
> 14 okt 2013 kl. 23:21 skrev Anne Günther :
> 
>> Hi
>> I got the link in another Mailinglist, sounds interesting.
>> http://blindsquare.com/challenge/
>> Guenni
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Re: Interesting bug in Bard App

[Richard Ring]

Hearing an announce about the end of a side doesn't bother me one bit. However, 
for example, while reading a collection of three Stephen King novels, when 
hearing such a side announcement, the novel I was reading started over. This 
has happened in three different books for me. It's not the out of date side 
announcements that are troubling, it's losing my place in the book that I mind 
a bit. I can live with it, just wondered if I were the only one experiencing it.


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On Oct 15, 2013, at 10:13 AM, Alan Paganelli  
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> I've had a book that was once a cassette book say end of side 3.  To 
> continue, please turn the cassette over.  I got a chuckle out of that but the 
> book continued on.  Here's the weird part though.  I hit the rewind button 
> and held it down and heard 5 seconds, 1 minute, 5 minutes and stopped there.  
> /the book continued on reading but where I heard the announcement end of side 
> three, it didn't play it.  It just read as if that part never even happened.  
> I have no clue why or how that happened and to be honest about it, I don't 
> care either it was just one of those weird things you come across once in a 
> wile.  I'm not trying to start a debate only sharing a weird event.  Do what 
> you will with it and believe it or not as you see fit.
> ---
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Alan
>  
> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>  
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> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>  
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> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
> - Original Message -
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:35 AM
> Subject: Interesting bug in Bard App
> 
> Greetings:
> The bug I am about to describe only occurs when reading a Bard book that was 
> converted from cassette to digital format. Here's what happens. You are 
> reading along, and you suddenly hear a phrase such as "end of side x" where X 
> is any side number. Suddenly, the book jumps back by at least one navigation 
> unit. How far the book jumps back depends upon the mark up present in the 
> book. In some books, this can be a chapter, while in others whose mark up is 
> not as thorough, you can jump to the beginning of a part or story you are 
> reading.
> I realize that nothing can be done about this until the Government opens 
> again, I wonder, however, if anyone else has encountered this one.
> 
> 
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Re: [IDevices] {Disarmed} FW: If You Think iOS 7 Feels Slow Here's How to Speed It Up

[Victor Gouveia]

Grant specifically stated that it was possible to control the individual 
app's ability to refresh itself instead of using the global refresh control 
found in the general settings.


My apologies for being so vague, I was under the impression that no one else 
cared about my question since only Grant responded to it.


Again, I do apologize for the misunderstanding.


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Re: Interesting bug in Bard App

[Donna]

I was listening to a magazine the other day, and the message about NLS going 
digital with magazines was included. I just chuckled and thought nothing more 
of the slip up. It doesn't take away from the magazine or book quality. 

Donna

On Oct 15, 2013, at 11:13 AM, "Alan Paganelli"  
wrote:

> I've had a book that was once a cassette book say end of side 3.  To 
> continue, please turn the cassette over.  I got a chuckle out of that but the 
> book continued on.  Here's the weird part though.  I hit the rewind button 
> and held it down and heard 5 seconds, 1 minute, 5 minutes and stopped there.  
> /the book continued on reading but where I heard the announcement end of side 
> three, it didn't play it.  It just read as if that part never even happened.  
> I have no clue why or how that happened and to be honest about it, I don't 
> care either it was just one of those weird things you come across once in a 
> wile.  I'm not trying to start  a debate only sharing a weird event.  Do what 
> you will with it and believe it or not as you see fit.
> ---
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Alan
>  
> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>  
> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!  
> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>  
> Please click on: 
> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Ring
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:35 AM
> Subject: Interesting bug in Bard App
> 
> Greetings:
> The bug I am about to describe only occurs when reading a Bard book that was 
> converted from cassette to digital format. Here's what happens. You are 
> reading along, and you suddenly hear a phrase such as "end of side x" where X 
> is any side number. Suddenly, the book jumps back by at least one navigation 
> unit. How far the book jumps back depends upon the mark up present in the 
> book. In some books, this can be a chapter, while in others whose mark up is 
> not as thorough, you can jump to the beginning of a part or story you are 
> reading.
> I realize that nothing can be done about this until the Government opens 
> again, I wonder, however, if anyone else has encountered this one.
> 
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Re: [IDevices] {Disarmed} FW: If You Think iOS 7 Feels Slow Here's How to Speed It Up

[Christopher Chaltain]

What option are you talking about? I don't see enough information in 
your message, and you didn't include the message you're responding to.


As a guess, look in Settings -> General -> Background App refresh. this 
is just one setting that's been talked about lately to improve 
performance and battery consumption. You can turn off app refresh in the 
background globally or app by app.


Links to several articles on how to configure IOS 7 have been posted 
lately with places to look in settings to configure different things. If 
you walk through some of these, you may find the setting you're looking 
for, or you could ask for it with a bit more detail here on list.


On 10/15/2013 12:50 PM, Victor Gouveia wrote:

Hi Grant,
Is that option available?
I don’t think I saw anything like that there.
Is it in the app specific settings, or is this a general refresh in the
settings?
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Re: viphone zello channel pasword

[Anne Günther]

Hi
The channel ist there.
The password was posted this morning, (german time).
It's iphoneisgood
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Re: viphone zello channel pasword

[Joseph Hudson]

Isaac I don't think there is a password on the channel according to wet and was 
saying yesterday. And I couldn't even find the channel.

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Re: [IDevices] {Disarmed} FW: If You Think iOS 7 Feels Slow Here's How to Speed It Up

[Victor Gouveia]

Hi Grant,

Is that option available?

I don’t think I saw anything like that there.

Is it in the app specific settings, or is this a general refresh in the 
settings?

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Re: This might be interesting for blindsquare users

[Anne Günther]

Hi
Just for the record: Blindsquare uses the Maps from the open street maps 
project. Not google maps.

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Tubeacco app is pulled, was: Can't find a YouTube app that does what I needed to do.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Ann,

I did a Google search for Tubeacco and one result I found from a site called
App Shopper stated that as of I think it was July of 2012 this app was
pulled from the app store.

I did find a link for the app on the developer's website (see below):
http://www.rubbledev.com/tubeacco

Interestingly enough if you just go to www.RubbleDev.com there seems to be
no link to it. There is also no Contact Us link, but when I put in
www.RubbleDev.com/contact a message was displayed that they were updating
the site and a Contact Us form would be back up soon.

In the meantime I guess if you use Facebook or Twitter you could try and
contact them that way, but if the app was pulled over a year ago and has not
come back I assume the developer gave up on it.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ann
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can't find a YouTube app that does what I needed to do.

Tubeacco whatever happened to it? I cannot find it anywhere in the
application store. In my opinion that's one the best apps they had to
manager YouTube items. If anyone could let me know whatever happened to this
wonderful application, I'll be very appreciative. Also, if you have the
developers address I would love to write to them and see what's going on
with it, thanks

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 15, 2013, at 12:13 AM, Shane clark  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> The YouTube app from Google is one that will def do what you want... Also
another app that will do it is Tubeacco. 
> Hth, Shane. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I don't know if YouPlayer will do exactly what you want, but for my
purposes
>> it does very well and it is very accessible. I think people are also
using
>> the "official" YouTube app, but I like YouPlayer better. Below is the app
>> store link and a link to a Podcast on Applevis:
>> 
>> YouPlayer App Store Link: Free
>>
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/youplayer-video-player-for/id561921453?mt=8
>> It does say "YouPlayer is an unofficial YouTube browser and player for
iOS
>> 6", they must have forgotten to update this because it does support iOS 7
as
>> well. Here is what it says for the What's New (it was updated on
September
>> 16):
>> . All new design for iOS 7.
>> . Design tweaks for iOS 6.
>> . If you have more than one channel attached to your account you will now
be
>> asked which you wish to use when logging in.
>> . Video history is now synced with iCloud.
>> . Favorites are now synced with iCloud if you aren't logged in to
YouTube.
>> 
>> Applevis Podcast about YouPlayer:
>>
http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/using-youtube-voiceover-part-1-youp
>> layer
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
>> Of Ann
>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 2:38 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Can't find a YouTube app that does what I needed to do.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone hello I teach an iPhone class as well as privately
tutor
>> people with the new iPhones. I'm looking for YouTube app that does the
>> following, allow me to set the search parameters for time, day, links of
>> video, and so forth we just have a really good one, but it's no longer in
>> the store. Any suggestions would be very helpful. Thanks in advance bye
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Re: apple forcing updates yet again

[Christopher Chaltain]

It's not really the issue, but how much space does this image really 
take up? I've heard that the download size varries from 750M to 1.2G for 
Verizon users. 3G is only needed during the install process. How do 
people know it's really taking up 3G of their space? I wonder if some 
uncompressing is going on after the image is downloaded, although I'd 
expect this just to be done during the install process itself. It would 
be pretty unfortunate for those 8G and 16G iPhone users who don't want 
to move up to IOS 7 to lose even more space if the image is untangled in 
preparation for the install.


On 10/15/2013 10:40 AM, Amy Billman wrote:

I will say though that once the update is at least downloaded (not
installed,) it will give you no choice but to update it in full because that
download's just sitting there eating three gb of space.
I'm sure eventually there will be no choice but to update, but there's no
way for it to happen accidentally or at the very least, without the terms
and conditions being agreed to.
Although... If you're running the latest iTunes and want to back up your
phone, will it only allow you to update to iOS7? I'm running it because
there's no reason not to, so I'm not sure how that would work... I know
itunes recognizes that your software is out of date, but unsure if you can
proceed with doing a backup without upgrading to the latest.
Sadly though, regardless of how it happened or what the cause was,
contacting disability services wil likely be an exercise in extreme
futility, since once you've upgraded, you're running it whether you want to
or not; from what Apple has told me anyway... *shrug* Nothing disability
department can do one way or the other since it's not an accessibility or
disability related issue.

Amy Billman
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: apple forcing updates yet again

Hi Paula,

I suspect that maybe whoever was helping her might have inadvertently tapped
Install or said Yes when asked to update, but you still have to Agree twice
to the Terms and Conditions and I really can't see how if you tap Decline it
would not let you out of the screen.

A couple of weeks ago somebody also posted that iOS 7 installed on their
phone automatically and I mean "installed" not just downloaded and there is
just no way it would do so because you just have to double tap I Agree and
then double tap it a second time.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: apple forcing updates yet again

Paula, I would contact the disability support number at Apple.  That is
strange because I have not heard of that happening to anyone.
There were 2 people at our meeting last night who had not upgraded and they
didn't have that problem.  Lots of luck!
On 10/15/13, Paul and Paula Jordan  wrote:

Hi, everyone. A coworker has an IPhone 5 running IOS 6.  She does not
want to update right now.  Yesterday someone was helping her with her
phone, and the phone asked if she wanted to update.  The only option
was "ok".  There appears to be no way to get out of that screen.  We
tried re-setting the phone by holding down the lock and home button
for 10 seconds and just turning the phone off and back on again.
There still seemed to be no way to get out of the update prompt.
Going into the app switcher still didn't work.  Anyone have any
thoughts?  I'm disappointed to see this with no option to cancel.

Thanks.

God bless!

Paula and Babe



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Re: The iPhone 5S Motion Sensors Are Totally Screwed Up - gizmodo.com

[Isaac Hebert]

Yes it is amazing how they ship them.

On 10/15/13, Rick Alfaro  wrote:
> Beat both of you guys. (lol)
>
> I got mine last Tuesday. It's amazing how they ship these. My phone's
> origin
> scan was in China on Saturday the 5th and in my hands Tuesday morning the
> 8th. It went from China, to Korea, to Alaska, to Kentucky to my home in
> South Florida. Pretty impressive.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rick Alfaro
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 6:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: The iPhone 5S Motion Sensors Are Totally Screwed Up -
> gizmodo.com
>
> Hi Grant,
>
> Some apps do use the compass (Blindsquare is one) but I am not sure if the
> variance described is enough to make a real difference. I am getting my 5S
> tomorrow (HaHaHa, beat you) and I certainly appreciated Cara posting this
> because at least one has a chance to specifically test for these issues. I
> am a woodworker and I do build things and do my own
> renovations/modifications to my home to a large degree, but it's not like
> I'd ever use my iPhone as my authorative level, it's much to short to be
> really precise. I have a dedicated audio level and even that is only 12
> inches and there is a reason why framers use 4 foot long levels. I can see
> how this might affect hard-core gamers which I am not and I suspect it will
> be an academic problem for me, certainly not enough to scare me off like
> Pablo who cancelled his order, but if I wasn't in a big hurry and my iPhone
> wasn't due to arrive tomorrow I might consider that. Anyhow, I have 1 year
> of warranty and I bought Apple Care so I am quite convinced that if I could
> replicate this issue and it was quite serious I could get a replacement in
> a
> couple of month when Apple has made the appropriate modifications.
>
> On a general note, I think it must be a real nightmare to discover all of
> these bugs and get them fixed. There are so many functions and features
> some
> of which are very specific. I know it's easy to say "How can Apple release
> a
> phone which has such obvious bugs" or "How can they release iOS 7 when it
> has such obvious bugs". But it's always easier to play Monday morning
> Quarterback and to draw on what tens of millions users report in the first
> few weeks of using a new iiOS or a new device.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
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RE: The iPhone 5S Motion Sensors Are Totally Screwed Up - gizmodo.com

[Rick Alfaro]

Beat both of you guys. (lol)

I got mine last Tuesday. It's amazing how they ship these. My phone's origin
scan was in China on Saturday the 5th and in my hands Tuesday morning the
8th. It went from China, to Korea, to Alaska, to Kentucky to my home in
South Florida. Pretty impressive.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The iPhone 5S Motion Sensors Are Totally Screwed Up -
gizmodo.com

Hi Grant,

Some apps do use the compass (Blindsquare is one) but I am not sure if the
variance described is enough to make a real difference. I am getting my 5S
tomorrow (HaHaHa, beat you) and I certainly appreciated Cara posting this
because at least one has a chance to specifically test for these issues. I
am a woodworker and I do build things and do my own
renovations/modifications to my home to a large degree, but it's not like
I'd ever use my iPhone as my authorative level, it's much to short to be
really precise. I have a dedicated audio level and even that is only 12
inches and there is a reason why framers use 4 foot long levels. I can see
how this might affect hard-core gamers which I am not and I suspect it will
be an academic problem for me, certainly not enough to scare me off like
Pablo who cancelled his order, but if I wasn't in a big hurry and my iPhone
wasn't due to arrive tomorrow I might consider that. Anyhow, I have 1 year
of warranty and I bought Apple Care so I am quite convinced that if I could
replicate this issue and it was quite serious I could get a replacement in a
couple of month when Apple has made the appropriate modifications.

On a general note, I think it must be a real nightmare to discover all of
these bugs and get them fixed. There are so many functions and features some
of which are very specific. I know it's easy to say "How can Apple release a
phone which has such obvious bugs" or "How can they release iOS 7 when it
has such obvious bugs". But it's always easier to play Monday morning
Quarterback and to draw on what tens of millions users report in the first
few weeks of using a new iiOS or a new device.


Regards,
Sieghard

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RE: apple forcing updates yet again

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RE: Family photostream

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Just register a new Apple ID for either yourself or your wife, then go to
Settings, Messages and sign out and back in with the new Apple ID. Do the
same for Settings, Facetime and you should be able to use Facetime and
iMessage and still both send pictures to the Photostream as well as access
the apps you purchased with your shared Apple Id.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robin Christopherson
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Family photostream

 

Dear listers

I was about to move my wife's phone over to a different Apple ID for iCloud
so that we could Facetime each other but I realise that doing that would
mean that we would no longer share photostream which would be a real shame.
Is there any way of having different iCloud accounts but sharing one
photostream? I know there are shared photostreams but that involves manually
moving photos into it that you want to share doesn't it?

Thanks, Robin.

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Re: Interesting bug in Bard App

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Rich,

Yes, I had the same thing happen with a book converted from cassette. It will 
definitely be worth reporting when the shutdown is over.

Best,
Anna



On Oct 15, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Richard Ring  wrote:

> Greetings:
> The bug I am about to describe only occurs when reading a Bard book that was 
> converted from cassette to digital format. Here's what happens. You are 
> reading along, and you suddenly hear a phrase such as "end of side x" where X 
> is any side number. Suddenly, the book jumps back by at least one navigation 
> unit. How far the book jumps back depends upon the mark up present in the 
> book. In some books, this can be a chapter, while in others whose mark up is 
> not as thorough, you can jump to the beginning of a part or story you are 
> reading.
> I realize that nothing can be done about this until the Government opens 
> again, I wonder, however, if anyone else has encountered this one.
> 
> 
> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
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Re: Fahrenheit not displaying the temperature

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
that is interesting as no one from Apple accessibility with whom I spoke 
indicated this was the case.
Robin


From: Rose Combs 
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Fahrenheit not displaying the temperature

I read it somewhere, just not sure where.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 5:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fahrenheit not displaying the temperature

 

Hi,

Could you please expound on your statement that “they decided” this?  I’ve seen 
no indication that this was a deliberate change in the way things were handled. 
 Rather it was posed to me as an oversight or a bug that was missed and 
therefore could be potentially fixed were it reported to Apple’s Accessibility 
team.

And while it’s true that removing apps so afflicted from their folders would 
temporarily fix the problem it doesn’t address the actual solution to the 
problem which could potentially be forth coming unless you’ve received some 
further information regarding this issue to which others haven’t yet 
encountered.

 

Thank you for the clarification.

Robin

 

 

From: Rose Combs 

Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:38 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Fahrenheit not displaying the temperature

 

They decided that if an app was in a folder they would how show the badge 
numbers such as items you need to update, etc.  I don't care for it either but, 
it is what it is.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fahrenheit not displaying the temperature

 

Hi,

This problem is not specific to this app rather it’s an issue with folders that 
have apps with badges within them.  I have reported it to apple accessibility 
via phone and their email

accessibil...@apple.com

Perhaps if others join in and report the issue it’ll gain it some well deserved 
attention.

Robin

 

 

From: Steve "The Jazz Man" 

Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:46 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Fahrenheit not displaying the temperature

 

Since the upgrade to iOS7, Fahrenheit will not display the current temperature 
in the folder name field as it use to.

 

I have a Weather folder on my main page and Fahrenheit is one of 6 apps in this 
folder.  After upgrading to iOS7, the temperature will no longer appear next to 
the folder name as it did in iOS6.

 

anybody know of a fix or another app that will work correctly to display the 
current temperature?

 

Steve

 

 

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RE: The iPhone 5S Motion Sensors Are Totally Screwed Up - gizmodo.com

[Rick Alfaro]

My 5s is off by 3 degrees just as mentioned on the Today in IOS show.
Hopefully, there will be a patch out soon correcting this.

Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Grant Hardy
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 4:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The iPhone 5S Motion Sensors Are Totally Screwed Up -
gizmodo.com

You beat me to it; I was going to post this same thing today. According to
many sources, this issue can be replicated on almost every single iPhone 5S
- or at least the first few early batches of them. A good test would be to
place your iPhone 5S on a flat table and see if the level reading in the
compass app is accurate. I'm actually more interested in hearing from people
whose phones give accurate readings, because those phones seem to be the
exception rather than the rule.

Grant

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cara Quinn
Sent: October 14, 2013 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The iPhone 5S Motion Sensors Are Totally Screwed Up - gizmodo.com

Hi All,

I'd suggest those who have purchased iPhone 5S's visit the below link and
have a read. I'm posting this as it may affect performance with GPS /
guidance apps which some of us use.

While I'm not sure which phones may be effected by this, it's definitely
worth noting.

http://gizmodo.com/the-iphone-5s-motion-sensors-are-totally-screwed-up-14402
86727

Thanks and please do have a wonderful day!

Smiles,

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Re: Interesting bug in Bard App

[Alan Paganelli]

I've had a book that was once a cassette book say end of side 3.  To continue, 
please turn the cassette over.  I got a chuckle out of that but the book 
continued on.  Here's the weird part though.  I hit the rewind button and held 
it down and heard 5 seconds, 1 minute, 5 minutes and stopped there.  /the book 
continued on reading but where I heard the announcement end of side three, it 
didn't play it.  It just read as if that part never even happened.  I have no 
clue why or how that happened and to be honest about it, I don't care either it 
was just one of those weird things you come across once in a wile.  I'm not 
trying to start a debate only sharing a weird event.  Do what you will with it 
and believe it or not as you see fit.
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Please click on: 
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There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

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  From: Richard Ring 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:35 AM
  Subject: Interesting bug in Bard App


  Greetings:
  The bug I am about to describe only occurs when reading a Bard book that was 
converted from cassette to digital format. Here's what happens. You are reading 
along, and you suddenly hear a phrase such as "end of side x" where X is any 
side number. Suddenly, the book jumps back by at least one navigation unit. How 
far the book jumps back depends upon the mark up present in the book. In some 
books, this can be a chapter, while in others whose mark up is not as thorough, 
you can jump to the beginning of a part or story you are reading.
  I realize that nothing can be done about this until the Government opens 
again, I wonder, however, if anyone else has encountered this one.



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viphone zello channel pasword

[Isaac Hebert]

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RE: This might be interesting for blindsquare users

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Krister,

Have you contacted the developer? Did they tell you it should work in
Sweden? Anyhow, I thought Blindsquare uses Google Maps and Foresquare so one
would  assume that it should work if google Maps works.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Of Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: This might be interesting for blindsquare users

Hi,
If the developer is listening i have this to say: It would be fun to
participate, however i can't since it appears that Blindsquare doesn't work
properly in Sweden. Either that or you know something i don't know that
makes the whole thing work.
/Krister

14 okt 2013 kl. 23:21 skrev Anne Günther :

> Hi
> I got the link in another Mailinglist, sounds interesting.
> http://blindsquare.com/challenge/
> Guenni
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Interesting bug in Bard App

[Richard Ring]

Greetings:
The bug I am about to describe only occurs when reading a Bard book that was 
converted from cassette to digital format. Here's what happens. You are reading 
along, and you suddenly hear a phrase such as "end of side x" where X is any 
side number. Suddenly, the book jumps back by at least one navigation unit. How 
far the book jumps back depends upon the mark up present in the book. In some 
books, this can be a chapter, while in others whose mark up is not as thorough, 
you can jump to the beginning of a part or story you are reading.
I realize that nothing can be done about this until the Government opens again, 
I wonder, however, if anyone else has encountered this one.


You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
 Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
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RE: apple forcing updates yet again

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Paula,

I suspect that maybe whoever was helping her might have inadvertently tapped
Install or said Yes when asked to update, but you still have to Agree twice
to the Terms and Conditions and I really can't see how if you tap Decline it
would not let you out of the screen.

A couple of weeks ago somebody also posted that iOS 7 installed on their
phone automatically and I mean "installed" not just downloaded and there is
just no way it would do so because you just have to double tap I Agree and
then double tap it a second time.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: apple forcing updates yet again

Paula, I would contact the disability support number at Apple.  That is
strange because I have not heard of that happening to anyone.
There were 2 people at our meeting last night who had not upgraded and they
didn't have that problem.  Lots of luck!
On 10/15/13, Paul and Paula Jordan  wrote:
> Hi, everyone. A coworker has an IPhone 5 running IOS 6.  She does not 
> want to update right now.  Yesterday someone was helping her with her 
> phone, and the phone asked if she wanted to update.  The only option 
> was "ok".  There appears to be no way to get out of that screen.  We 
> tried re-setting the phone by holding down the lock and home button 
> for 10 seconds and just turning the phone off and back on again.  
> There still seemed to be no way to get out of the update prompt.  
> Going into the app switcher still didn't work.  Anyone have any 
> thoughts?  I'm disappointed to see this with no option to cancel.
>
> Thanks.
>
> God bless!
>
> Paula and Babe
>
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RE: cases for 5s which offer excellent protection

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Wren,

 

I don't agree with the person who said the Lifeproof case is a "nice" case.
It is not bad, but I bought one for my 4S a couple of years ago and while it
does offer good protection (as does the Otterbox Defender) it find both the
case and the belt clip is too bulky for my taste and daily use.

 

I also find the audio is slightly distorted when the phone is properly in my
case with the headphone jack cover screwed in and it's a pain in the neck to
unscrew this and make sure I don't lose it every time I decide I want to
quickly plug in my headset. I guess it would be OK if somebody used a
Bluetooth headset/earpiece with it as their preferred way to use a headset,
but I just happen to like the apple Earpods better than any Bluetooth
headset I have seen and tried so far. I usually don't bother screwing in the
plug unless I really need that complete waterproofness and using their
waterproof headset connector is also not a good solution because if you use
it you can only use a headset.

 

Lastly, my Lifeproof case has not been used all that much, but the little
door that you close and snap into place after you made sure the case is
properly sealed all the way around is now starting to come off and at this
point my case would be no longer waterproof. I just noticed this last week
when I collected all my 4S accessories as I am getting ready to sell my
unlocked 4S 64 Gb am I have to call Lifeproof today and see if they would
consider this a warranty.

 

In conclusion I would say that if you really felt you needed a waterproof
case then the Lifeproof case is OK, but I would certainly check out other
options before I bought one for my 5S.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lea Langley
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 3:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: 
Subject: Re: cases for 5s which offer excellent protection

 

Hi have you considered the life proof case? It goes completely around the
phone and is waterproof. There is a little door that you open with your
fingernail to recharge the phone, and there is a little screw that you have
to undo to get your headphones. The person who has one says it is easy to do
and the case has a screen protector and a slimmer than the OtterBox case.
God bless, Wren PS I have not seen it yet, but I do plan to buy a 5S
sometime in the future, and I will consider this case it is $79 at Best Buy,
and it is from what I understand a very nice case and you can purchase
either an armband separately or a belt clip separately or both if you are
like me. Smile.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 14, 2013, at 10:44 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Ron,

 

Npot sure if you have home owners insurance, but while I bought Apple Care
for the peace of mind, I also added my iPhone to my homeowner's policy. This
meant I had to provide the serial number and it is very specific, it costs
me about $30 a year more on my home's insurance policy with $0 deductable
specifically for the iPhone. This means even if it is stolen I would get
100% replacement value. My homeowner's policy is underwritten by Wawanesa
her e in Canada.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ron Pelletier
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 7:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: cases for 5s which offer excellent protection

 

Hi Kelly,

 

I just bought my 5S on Thursday.  I didn't like the Otter Box case because
it was so bulky and also because some of my friends had nothing but trouble
with the trap doors that kept breaking.  I had a leather case to go on my
belt so I put on my phone a protector that covers all around and the back.
I think they called it the Fiber 21 or something like that.  The material is
some form of fiber that is supposed to distribute the shock if you drop the
phone rather than taking the shock only where it hit.  I also got an
insurance that covers absolutely everything including dropping the phone in
the toilet.  There is a deductible of $250 to replace the phone for a new
one.  Considering that the 5S 32 gig in Canada is almost a $1000.00 phone
when you add the taxes, I think its well worth it.  The insurance is $10.00
a month

 

Ron & Danvers

 

Falling down is part of LIFE...

Getting back up is LIVING...

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kellie and my lab pack
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: cases for 5s which offer excellent protection

 

Hey all, 

so I finally placed my order for a gold 5s and am waiting, probably not so
patiently, for it to arrive. it is going to be a while. *lol* 

 

While I wait, I have been trying to read up on possible case options. I find
that many say they work for the 5, but no mention of the 5s. I assume this
is do to the finger print sensor. 

 

I am curious on what cases are out there that offer excellent protection for
t

RE: cases for 5s which offer excellent protection

[Lois Butterfield]

I have ordered the Life Proof case because I'm going to take up rowing and
thought it would be a good one for that.  I'm not worried about the
headphone part of it as I will most likely use Bluetooth when I need
headphones.  I can't wait to see the size and how it functions.

 

Take care,

Lois

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lea Langley
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 6:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: 
Subject: Re: cases for 5s which offer excellent protection

 

Hi have you considered the life proof case? It goes completely around the
phone and is waterproof. There is a little door that you open with your
fingernail to recharge the phone, and there is a little screw that you have
to undo to get your headphones. The person who has one says it is easy to do
and the case has a screen protector and a slimmer than the OtterBox case.
God bless, Wren PS I have not seen it yet, but I do plan to buy a 5S
sometime in the future, and I will consider this case it is $79 at Best Buy,
and it is from what I understand a very nice case and you can purchase
either an armband separately or a belt clip separately or both if you are
like me. Smile.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 14, 2013, at 10:44 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Ron,

 

Npot sure if you have home owners insurance, but while I bought Apple Care
for the peace of mind, I also added my iPhone to my homeowner's policy. This
meant I had to provide the serial number and it is very specific, it costs
me about $30 a year more on my home's insurance policy with $0 deductable
specifically for the iPhone. This means even if it is stolen I would get
100% replacement value. My homeowner's policy is underwritten by Wawanesa
her e in Canada.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ron Pelletier
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 7:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: cases for 5s which offer excellent protection

 

Hi Kelly,

 

I just bought my 5S on Thursday.  I didn't like the Otter Box case because
it was so bulky and also because some of my friends had nothing but trouble
with the trap doors that kept breaking.  I had a leather case to go on my
belt so I put on my phone a protector that covers all around and the back.
I think they called it the Fiber 21 or something like that.  The material is
some form of fiber that is supposed to distribute the shock if you drop the
phone rather than taking the shock only where it hit.  I also got an
insurance that covers absolutely everything including dropping the phone in
the toilet.  There is a deductible of $250 to replace the phone for a new
one.  Considering that the 5S 32 gig in Canada is almost a $1000.00 phone
when you add the taxes, I think its well worth it.  The insurance is $10.00
a month

 

Ron & Danvers

 

Falling down is part of LIFE...

Getting back up is LIVING...

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kellie and my lab pack
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: cases for 5s which offer excellent protection

 

Hey all, 

so I finally placed my order for a gold 5s and am waiting, probably not so
patiently, for it to arrive. it is going to be a while. *lol* 

 

While I wait, I have been trying to read up on possible case options. I find
that many say they work for the 5, but no mention of the 5s. I assume this
is do to the finger print sensor. 

 

I am curious on what cases are out there that offer excellent protection for
the phone. everyone seems to be promoting the otter box, however, that is
what I currently have for my 4s and it has not lived up to expectations. I
like the Otter box concept and would like to know are there any other cases
out there, which are similar. I want the phone completely encased and to
include a built in screen protector. Also, I don't want the case to be any
bulkier then the Otter box. Slimmer is better. 

 

 

My husband is thinking of just getting one of the leather cases from apple
for his phone but I don't think that will be sufficient protection for my
liking. Thoughts, opinions and ideas would be appreciated. 

 

Kellie, guide Loki and retired July 

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Re: apple forcing updates yet again

[Marianne Denning]

Paula, I would contact the disability support number at Apple.  That
is strange because I have not heard of that happening to anyone.
There were 2 people at our meeting last night who had not upgraded and
they didn't have that problem.  Lots of luck!
On 10/15/13, Paul and Paula Jordan  wrote:
> Hi, everyone. A coworker has an IPhone 5 running IOS 6.  She does not want
> to update right now.  Yesterday someone was helping her with her phone, and
> the phone asked if she wanted to update.  The only option was "ok".  There
> appears to be no way to get out of that screen.  We tried re-setting the
> phone by holding down the lock and home button for 10 seconds and just
> turning the phone off and back on again.  There still seemed to be no way
> to
> get out of the update prompt.  Going into the app switcher still didn't
> work.  Anyone have any thoughts?  I'm disappointed to see this with no
> option to cancel.
>
> Thanks.
>
> God bless!
>
> Paula and Babe
>
>
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apple forcing updates yet again

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

Hi, everyone. A coworker has an IPhone 5 running IOS 6.  She does not want
to update right now.  Yesterday someone was helping her with her phone, and
the phone asked if she wanted to update.  The only option was "ok".  There
appears to be no way to get out of that screen.  We tried re-setting the
phone by holding down the lock and home button for 10 seconds and just
turning the phone off and back on again.  There still seemed to be no way to
get out of the update prompt.  Going into the app switcher still didn't
work.  Anyone have any thoughts?  I'm disappointed to see this with no
option to cancel.

Thanks.  

God bless!

Paula and Babe

 

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Spooky activity in multitasking that puts the Oo in OoTunes

[Robin Christopherson]

Dear listers
This is probably an intentional feature of the way that iOS7 does multitasking 
but it was spooky nonetheless. I was streaming a radio station on OoTunes and 
went into the taskswitcher and cleared it out. I used to do this with 
TuneInRadio as I felt sure it was buffering the stream over 3G even when 
closed. I then happened to press the play remote control on the earbuds and 
OoTunes started streaming again even though it had been banished from the 
taskswitcher. Spooky eh? For info I wasn’t listening to halloween radio or 
anything like that – if I had been perhaps I might have really got the creeps.
Thanks, Robin. 

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Re: The iPhone 5S Motion Sensors Are Totally Screwed Up - gizmodo.com

[Alan Paganelli]

I think that the app might due in a pinch if your hanging a picture or that 
kind of thing.  For anything really serious, it won't cut it.  I don't care 
what model iPhone you use it on and there are better other leveling apps. 
You have to try them 1 by 1 to see which works best for your needs.  If you 
really need it to be level, there are several on the market which will beep 
a steady tone when it's level that work much better.

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- Original Message - 
From: "John Diakogeorgiou" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: The iPhone 5S Motion Sensors Are Totally Screwed Up - 
gizmodo.com




Just out of curiousity I tried using the level with my wife's 5 and my
5s which was received the Tuesday after they went on sale. Their is a
difference of about 3 degrees between the two phones with hers showing
0 and mine -3 which is about a/4 inch off the table. I tried it on a
couple of different surfaces in case one wasn't flat and got the same
results. I did not try the compass part because I don't think the
difference is as important. Although I hope
Apple some how fixes this I don't think it will have too much effect
since I don't use the phone for woodworking.

On 10/14/13, Grant Hardy  wrote:
Oh for sure, many navigation apps use the compass. I just meant that in 
my

experience usually navigation apps don't rely on it exclusively because
there's lots of information like your heading that can be derived from 
GPS.


Please post tomorrow after you've taken your shiny new phone out of the 
box

and let us know whether your sensors seem to work properly. I agree with
you, everyone has at least one year of warranty (more if you buy Apple 
Care

Plus) so I don't think I'll sweat it too much at this point especially
considering that the majority of phones seem to exhibit this behaviour. 
Or
rather, the majority of people who have posted about this issue around 
the

internet can replicate it.

Grant

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: October 14, 2013 3:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The iPhone 5S Motion Sensors Are Totally Screwed Up -
gizmodo.com

Hi Grant,

Some apps do use the compass (Blindsquare is one) but I am not sure if 
the
variance described is enough to make a real difference. I am getting my 
5S

tomorrow (HaHaHa, beat you) and I certainly appreciated Cara posting this
because at least one has a chance to specifically test for these issues. 
I

am a woodworker and I do build things and do my own
renovations/modifications to my home to a large degree, but it's not like
I'd ever use my iPhone as my authorative level, it's much to short to be
really precise. I have a dedicated audio level and even that is only 12
inches and there is a reason why framers use 4 foot long levels. I can 
see
how this might affect hard-core gamers which I am not and I suspect it 
will

be an academic problem for me, certainly not enough to scare me off like
Pablo who cancelled his order, but if I wasn't in a big hurry and my 
iPhone
wasn't due to arrive tomorrow I might consider that. Anyhow, I have 1 
year
of warranty and I bought Apple Care so I am quite convinced that if I 
could
replicate this issue and it was quite serious I could get a replacement 
in

a
couple of month when Apple has made the appropriate modifications.

On a general note, I think it must be a real nightmare to discover all of
these bugs and get them fixed. There are so many functions and features
some
of which are very specific. I know it's easy to say "How can Apple 
release

a
phone which has such obvious bugs" or "How can they release iOS 7 when it
has such obvious bugs". But it's always easier to play Monday morning
Quarterback and to draw on what tens of millions users report in the 
first

few weeks of using a new iiOS or a new device.


Regards,
Sieghard

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RE: a Siri question

[Rose Combs]

Well, it was not me but my driver, and, I was surprised it found eight
places around me.  I only knew of one and it was closer to work than home.
Never been there, but I know where it is, LOL.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 6:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a Siri question

I just did the same thing and discovered that Apple chose only the high
class sex related businesses in my north side Chicago neighborhood, only the
toy stores and intimate clothing stores. Off the list was the adult
bookstore with private closed booths that show porno or the gay bathhouse.
Apparently, Apple now likes to be a little edgy but hard core sex is too
much.

Kelly



On 10/13/13, Rose Combs  wrote:
> Well my driver was playing with Siri the other day and asked it how 
> many sex shops were near my house, he said 8 and then read off the 
> first one asked if she wanted directions and on down the list.
>
> It was a hoot.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Alan Paganelli
> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: a Siri question
>
> Ok sense I don't have siri on my iPhone 4, will siri read every one of 
> the listings or does she say I've located 13 bars near your home?  Or 
> does she say I've found 13 bars near your home and then lists them in 
> order of closest to farthest?  I think I would like the first one 
> better and then leave it up to me to ask for that list.
> ---
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan
>
> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>
> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>
> Please click on:
> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances 
> played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format 
> formerly on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for
listening!
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kelly Pierce" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 5:33 PM
> Subject: Re: a Siri question
>
>
> Siri can be asked things like give me directions to get home, take me 
> home Siri, what are parks near my home or what are the best bars near 
> my home.  Siri magically comes up with the answers in rank order to 
> the question asked.  In response to the parks question, Siri provided 
> a list with the closest one first and asked if I wanted to call the 
> park or get directions to it.  For directions, Siri brought up Apple 
> Maps for precise walking directions.  For the best bars, Siri used 
> Yelp rankings to locate the 15 closest bars and then rank them 
> according to Yelp reviews.
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 10/12/13, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> that is for you to tell Siri who you are.
>> If you enter your information in as a contact, then Siri will have 
>> your home phone, work phone, email, address, whatever fields you fill 
>> in.
>> HTH,
>>
>> Richard
>> (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
>>
>>> On Oct 12, 2013, at 2:05 PM, "Crystal French" 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I have been exploring my new 5s.
>>>
>>> I have never used Siri before, so don't know much about it.
>>>
>>> I was looking at Settings, and, under Siri noticed a "my info" button.
>>> It
>>> says none.
>>>
>>> When I tapped on the button it brought up my Contacts list.
>>>
>>> What is the reason for the NONE?
>>>
>>> Crystal
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RE: Fahrenheit not displaying the temperature

[Rose Combs]

I read it somewhere, just not sure where.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robin Frost
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 5:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fahrenheit not displaying the temperature

 

Hi,

Could you please expound on your statement that "they decided" this?  I've
seen no indication that this was a deliberate change in the way things were
handled.  Rather it was posed to me as an oversight or a bug that was missed
and therefore could be potentially fixed were it reported to Apple's
Accessibility team.

And while it's true that removing apps so afflicted from their folders would
temporarily fix the problem it doesn't address the actual solution to the
problem which could potentially be forth coming unless you've received some
further information regarding this issue to which others haven't yet
encountered.

 

Thank you for the clarification.

Robin

 

 

From: Rose Combs   

Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:38 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Fahrenheit not displaying the temperature

 

They decided that if an app was in a folder they would how show the badge
numbers such as items you need to update, etc.  I don't care for it either
but, it is what it is.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robin Frost
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fahrenheit not displaying the temperature

 

Hi,

This problem is not specific to this app rather it's an issue with folders
that have apps with badges within them.  I have reported it to apple
accessibility via phone and their email

accessibil...@apple.com

Perhaps if others join in and report the issue it'll gain it some well
deserved attention.

Robin

 

 

From: Steve   "The Jazz Man" 

Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:46 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Fahrenheit not displaying the temperature

 

Since the upgrade to iOS7, Fahrenheit will not display the current
temperature in the folder name field as it use to.

 

I have a Weather folder on my main page and Fahrenheit is one of 6 apps in
this folder.  After upgrading to iOS7, the temperature will no longer appear
next to the folder name as it did in iOS6.

 

anybody know of a fix or another app that will work correctly to display the
current temperature?

 

Steve

 

 

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Re: cases for 5s which offer excellent protection

[Kelly Pierce]

Ron,

When I obtained my first iPhone last year, I went back to the Apple
store where I bought it and checked out their cases.  The Apple store
had several leather cases that came across as sophisticated and
functional.  They would fit inside a suit jacket perfectly without
leaving a bulge or being so heavy the case makes the jacket hang
awkwardly as the heavy duty cases do.  I’m so glad you found a case
that offers the protection from a drop, shows off the 5s elegance and
gives the protection you need.

I too bought a private insurance plan.  Rob at Today in iOS has said
repeatedly that Apple Care does not include water damage.  Now that I
am insured until 2016, I have thought a little bit about the issue.
As a blind person, I have become mindful about the proper care and use
of the tools I use for my independence.  When I was without a computer
for a few days when I spilled a glass of water on the keyboard, I
learned a lesson  to be careful and to set up systems for handling
liquids around electronic devices.  I avoid taking the iPhone into a
bathroom or kitchen.  I also put it into a sealed Ziploc bag if I am
going to be around a swimming pool, beach, or in a small boat.   I
learned the last idea from the guys who carry their firearm everywhere
down here in the states.  The problem is with wet hands or small
splashes that can really do damage rather than having the item dunked
in water.

Kelly




On 10/15/13, Lea Langley  wrote:
> Hi have you considered the life proof case? It goes completely around the
> phone and is waterproof. There is a little door that you open with your
> fingernail to recharge the phone, and there is a little screw that you have
> to undo to get your headphones. The person who has one says it is easy to do
> and the case has a screen protector and a slimmer than the OtterBox case.
> God bless, Wren PS I have not seen it yet, but I do plan to buy a 5S
> sometime in the future, and I will consider this case it is $79 at Best Buy,
> and it is from what I understand a very nice case and you can purchase
> either an armband separately or a belt clip separately or both if you are
> like me. Smile.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 14, 2013, at 10:44 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ron,
>>
>> Npot sure if you have home owners insurance, but while I bought Apple Care
>> for the peace of mind, I also added my iPhone to my homeowner’s policy.
>> This meant I had to provide the serial number and it is very specific, it
>> costs me about $30 a year more on my home’s insurance policy with $0
>> deductable specifically for the iPhone. This means even if it is stolen I
>> would get 100% replacement value. My homeowner’s policy is underwritten by
>> Wawanesa  her e in Canada.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Ron Pelletier
>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 7:38 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: cases for 5s which offer excellent protection
>>
>> Hi Kelly,
>>
>> I just bought my 5S on Thursday.  I didn’t like the Otter Box case because
>> it was so bulky and also because some of my friends had nothing but
>> trouble with the trap doors that kept breaking.  I had a leather case to
>> go on my belt so I put on my phone a protector that covers all around and
>> the back.  I think they called it the Fiber 21 or something like that.
>> The material is some form of fiber that is supposed to distribute the
>> shock if you drop the phone rather than taking the shock only where it
>> hit.  I also got an insurance that covers absolutely everything including
>> dropping the phone in the toilet.  There is a deductible of $250 to
>> replace the phone for a new one.  Considering that the 5S 32 gig in Canada
>> is almost a $1000.00 phone when you add the taxes, I think its well worth
>> it.  The insurance is $10.00 a month
>>
>> Ron & Danvers
>>
>> Falling down is part of LIFE...
>> Getting back up is LIVING...
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Kellie and my lab pack
>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:26 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: cases for 5s which offer excellent protection
>>
>> Hey all,
>> so I finally placed my order for a gold 5s and am waiting, probably not so
>> patiently, for it to arrive. it is going to be a while. *lol*
>>
>> While I wait, I have been trying to read up on possible case options. I
>> find that many say they work for the 5, but no mention of the 5s. I assume
>> this is do to the finger print sensor.
>>
>> I am curious on what cases are out there that offer excellent protection
>> for the phone. everyone seems to be promoting the otter box, however, that
>> is what I currently have for my 4s and it has not lived up to
>> expectations. I like the Otter box concept and would like to know are
>> there any other cases out there, which are similar. I want the phone
>> completely encased and to include a built in

RE: Family photostream

[Kliphton -------]

You can invite anyone to a shared photo stream that you want too, the email
address has to end in icloud.com.  Otherwise everything else should just
work.

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robin Christopherson
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 4:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Family photostream

 

Dear listers

I was about to move my wife's phone over to a different Apple ID for iCloud
so that we could Facetime each other but I realise that doing that would
mean that we would no longer share photostream which would be a real shame.
Is there any way of having different iCloud accounts but sharing one
photostream? I know there are shared photostreams but that involves manually
moving photos into it that you want to share doesn't it?

Thanks, Robin.

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Re: cases for 5s which offer excellent protection

[Lea Langley]

Hi have you considered the life proof case? It goes completely around the phone 
and is waterproof. There is a little door that you open with your fingernail to 
recharge the phone, and there is a little screw that you have to undo to get 
your headphones. The person who has one says it is easy to do and the case has 
a screen protector and a slimmer than the OtterBox case. God bless, Wren PS I 
have not seen it yet, but I do plan to buy a 5S sometime in the future, and I 
will consider this case it is $79 at Best Buy, and it is from what I understand 
a very nice case and you can purchase either an armband separately or a belt 
clip separately or both if you are like me. Smile.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 14, 2013, at 10:44 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ron,
>  
> Npot sure if you have home owners insurance, but while I bought Apple Care 
> for the peace of mind, I also added my iPhone to my homeowner’s policy. This 
> meant I had to provide the serial number and it is very specific, it costs me 
> about $30 a year more on my home’s insurance policy with $0 deductable 
> specifically for the iPhone. This means even if it is stolen I would get 100% 
> replacement value. My homeowner’s policy is underwritten by Wawanesa  her e 
> in Canada.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ron Pelletier
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 7:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: cases for 5s which offer excellent protection
>  
> Hi Kelly,
>  
> I just bought my 5S on Thursday.  I didn’t like the Otter Box case because it 
> was so bulky and also because some of my friends had nothing but trouble with 
> the trap doors that kept breaking.  I had a leather case to go on my belt so 
> I put on my phone a protector that covers all around and the back.  I think 
> they called it the Fiber 21 or something like that.  The material is some 
> form of fiber that is supposed to distribute the shock if you drop the phone 
> rather than taking the shock only where it hit.  I also got an insurance that 
> covers absolutely everything including dropping the phone in the toilet.  
> There is a deductible of $250 to replace the phone for a new one.  
> Considering that the 5S 32 gig in Canada is almost a $1000.00 phone when you 
> add the taxes, I think its well worth it.  The insurance is $10.00 a month
>  
> Ron & Danvers
>  
> Falling down is part of LIFE...
> Getting back up is LIVING...
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kellie and my lab pack
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: cases for 5s which offer excellent protection
>  
> Hey all,
> so I finally placed my order for a gold 5s and am waiting, probably not so 
> patiently, for it to arrive. it is going to be a while. *lol*
>  
> While I wait, I have been trying to read up on possible case options. I find 
> that many say they work for the 5, but no mention of the 5s. I assume this is 
> do to the finger print sensor.
>  
> I am curious on what cases are out there that offer excellent protection for 
> the phone. everyone seems to be promoting the otter box, however, that is 
> what I currently have for my 4s and it has not lived up to expectations. I 
> like the Otter box concept and would like to know are there any other cases 
> out there, which are similar. I want the phone completely encased and to 
> include a built in screen protector. Also, I don’t want the case to be any 
> bulkier then the Otter box. Slimmer is better.
>  
>  
> My husband is thinking of just getting one of the leather cases from apple 
> for his phone but I don’t think that will be sufficient protection for my 
> liking. Thoughts, opinions and ideas would be appreciated.
>  
> Kellie, guide Loki and retired July
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Re: Passcode entry with handwriting

[Neil Barnfather - TalkNav]

One of the things I really like about hand writing your pass code is that Voice 
Over does not announce the numbers I am drawing, and, I have got extremely good 
at writing them very small on the screen, as such, someone sighted does not, 
when looking over my shoulder, get the idea from my hand movements what I am 
writing.




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On 10 Oct 2013, at 06:31, Harry Bell  wrote:

> I'm trying to learn to use voiceover but can't find out what to do after 
> writing the last number of my passcode. I use the rotor to turn on 
> handwriting on the lock screen and my 5s recognises my numbers. A sighted 
> person would then tap the OK button but I have no idea what gesture will 
> activate ok on the pass code screen and google has not helped. Any ideas, 
> folks?
> Thanks
> Harry
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Family photostream

[Robin Christopherson]

Dear listers
I was about to move my wife’s phone over to a different Apple ID for iCloud so 
that we could Facetime each other but I realise that doing that would mean that 
we would no longer share photostream which would be a real shame. Is there any 
way of having different iCloud accounts but sharing one photostream? I know 
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that you want to share doesn’t it?
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Re: This might be interesting for blindsquare users

[Ari Moisio]

Hi

BS should work in   Sweden as well as here in Finland.  What kind of 
roblems do you have?



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Subject: Re: This might be interesting for blindsquare users
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 11:00:09 +0200
From: Krister Ekstrom 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Hi,
If the developer is listening i have this to say: It would be fun to 
participate, however i can't since it appears that Blindsquare doesn't work 
properly in Sweden. Either that or you know something i don't know that makes 
the whole thing work.
/Krister

14 okt 2013 kl. 23:21 skrev Anne Günther :


Hi
I got the link in another Mailinglist, sounds interesting.
http://blindsquare.com/challenge/
Guenni

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Re: This might be interesting for blindsquare users

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi,
If the developer is listening i have this to say: It would be fun to 
participate, however i can't since it appears that Blindsquare doesn't work 
properly in Sweden. Either that or you know something i don't know that makes 
the whole thing work.
/Krister

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> Hi
> I got the link in another Mailinglist, sounds interesting.
> http://blindsquare.com/challenge/
> Guenni
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Re: Can't find a YouTube app that does what I needed to do.

[Ann]

Tubeacco whatever happened to it? I cannot find it anywhere in the application 
store. In my opinion that's one the best apps they had to manager YouTube 
items. If anyone could let me know whatever happened to this wonderful 
application, I'll be very appreciative. Also, if you have the developers 
address I would love to write to them and see what's going on with it, thanks

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 15, 2013, at 12:13 AM, Shane clark  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> The YouTube app from Google is one that will def do what you want... Also 
> another app that will do it is Tubeacco. 
> Hth, Shane. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I don't know if YouPlayer will do exactly what you want, but for my purposes
>> it does very well and it is very accessible. I think people are also using
>> the "official" YouTube app, but I like YouPlayer better. Below is the app
>> store link and a link to a Podcast on Applevis:
>> 
>> YouPlayer App Store Link: Free
>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/youplayer-video-player-for/id561921453?mt=8
>> It does say "YouPlayer is an unofficial YouTube browser and player for iOS
>> 6", they must have forgotten to update this because it does support iOS 7 as
>> well. Here is what it says for the What's New (it was updated on September
>> 16):
>> . All new design for iOS 7.
>> . Design tweaks for iOS 6.
>> . If you have more than one channel attached to your account you will now be
>> asked which you wish to use when logging in.
>> . Video history is now synced with iCloud.
>> . Favorites are now synced with iCloud if you aren't logged in to YouTube.
>> 
>> Applevis Podcast about YouPlayer:
>> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/using-youtube-voiceover-part-1-youp
>> layer
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Ann
>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 2:38 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Can't find a YouTube app that does what I needed to do.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone hello I teach an iPhone class as well as privately tutor
>> people with the new iPhones. I'm looking for YouTube app that does the
>> following, allow me to set the search parameters for time, day, links of
>> video, and so forth we just have a really good one, but it's no longer in
>> the store. Any suggestions would be very helpful. Thanks in advance bye
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