Re: A Question for Star Trek, Picard Fans

[CHELA Robles]

Lana, Richard was saying that audiovault has only the audio with audio 
description, not the video. It's a resource he gets audio descriptive content 
from similar to Blind Mice Mega Mall's Movie Vault. Similar to Sero app for 
iPhone.

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> On Oct 19, 2022, at 5:56 AM, Lana  wrote:
> 
> Are you saying that the episodes come with video only? No dialogue or music, 
> or sound effects? or anything? That doesn't make sense, even for a sighted 
> viewer.
> 
>> On 10/18/2022 11:03 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Well, a list member who is also a Star Trek fan, just purchased Picard, 
>> Season 1, from the iTunes store.  He plans to buy season 2, also, from 
>> iTunes.
>> 
>> He informed me that the audio track is not included in the purchase.
>> 
>> Wow!
>> 
>> I am so surprised given that the audio track is included on Amazon Prime 
>> Video.
>> 
>> Given that the show was produced at the Amazon Studios, I guess I should not 
>> be too surprised, at that.
>> 
>> Like all of my other television series purchases from iTunes, I probably 
>> wouldn't let the lack of an audio track stop me from purchasing the show but 
>> if I can get the same episodes, at the same price, with audio description 
>> from Amazon Prime Video, then so be it.
>> 
>> Well, off to the Amazon Prime Video Store, I go.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 9:39 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A Question for Star Trek, Picard Fans
>> 
>> I have not purchased that series. I did listen to season one from 
>> audiovault.net which of course is just the audio file, no Pictures.
>> I have a few movies from iTunes that have audio description.
>> Perhaps this is one where you need to ask Apple directly.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 18, 2022, at 7:02 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> The television series Star Trek, Picard has been produced with an audio
>> description track.
>> 
>> Now I know that those who subscribe to Paramount Plus, CBS All Access, etc.
>> have access to that audio track.
>> 
>> To my surprise, the iTunes Store sells both seasons of Star Trek, Picard,
>> also.  I am assuming that when the third and final season is released in
>> February, 2023, it will be available  for purchase in the iTunes store, as
>> well.
>> 
>> My question:  Has anyone purchased a season of Star Trek, Picard from the
>> iTunes Store? And if so, was the audio description track included?
>> 
>> Why am I asking when I can simply buy a season and discover the answer for
>> myself?
>> 
>> Since I plan on buying Star Trek, Picard, normally, I would simply buy the
>> first season and hope for the best.  However, in this instance, the series
>> is also being sold in the Amazon Prime Video store. And, unlike the product
>> description in iTunes, Amazon Prime Video clearly labels the series as
>> having an audio track included with purchase.
>> 
>> While I have purchased several items from the Amazon Prime Video Store,
>> given a choice, I prefer to purchase my video content from the iTunes Store,
>> if possible.
>> 
>> So, in short, I was just curious if anyone had purchased the show from
>> iTunes and if the audio description track had been included with the
>> purchase.
>> 
>> All replies appreciated,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: A Question for Star Trek, Picard Fans

[CHELA Robles]

I have not purchased any video Contant with audio description from Apple 
iTunes, and you did mention Paramount plus subscribers getting access to the 
audio description. Well I tried to get that audio description for a show which 
normally does have audio description, but couldn’t get it to go on because in 
the app, there’s no way for me to tell. if I’m actually in the player or if I’m 
in the settings because I don’t know what they did in the update, but I cannot 
find audio language, subtitles, etc. this is on an iPhone 8 plus running 
16.0.3. I have the latest software update for Paramount+ app as well. Anybody 
having issues getting the audio description to work on that app any workarounds 
would be great. Sorry that this doesn’t actually answer your question but trial 
and error seems to be the best bet I could try to buy season one and let you 
know if it works but you would think under the description that it would say 
that audio description is available. I know it does for a star is born 2018.

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> On Oct 18, 2022, at 7:02 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> The television series Star Trek, Picard has been produced with an audio
> description track.
> 
> Now I know that those who subscribe to Paramount Plus, CBS All Access, etc.
> have access to that audio track.
> 
> To my surprise, the iTunes Store sells both seasons of Star Trek, Picard,
> also.  I am assuming that when the third and final season is released in
> February, 2023, it will be available  for purchase in the iTunes store, as
> well.
> 
> My question:  Has anyone purchased a season of Star Trek, Picard from the
> iTunes Store? And if so, was the audio description track included?
> 
> Why am I asking when I can simply buy a season and discover the answer for
> myself?
> 
> Since I plan on buying Star Trek, Picard, normally, I would simply buy the
> first season and hope for the best.  However, in this instance, the series
> is also being sold in the Amazon Prime Video store. And, unlike the product
> description in iTunes, Amazon Prime Video clearly labels the series as
> having an audio track included with purchase.
> 
> While I have purchased several items from the Amazon Prime Video Store,
> given a choice, I prefer to purchase my video content from the iTunes Store,
> if possible.
> 
> So, in short, I was just curious if anyone had purchased the show from
> iTunes and if the audio description track had been included with the
> purchase.
> 
> All replies appreciated,
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?

[CHELA Robles]

To my knowledge, I don’t think there’s a way to get a physical Sim because if I 
remember correctly, they stated that it was gonna be electronic so I could be 
very wrong though. I could be very wrong, but I don’t think the model you’re 
looking at has a physical Sim tray, but I could be very wrong in this as well. 
That’s just what I’ve gathered from the Keynote that I heard or the Apple 
event. Whatever you wanna call it.

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> On Oct 18, 2022, at 6:39 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone, 
> 
> And so it begins.
> 
> I was in one of my local Apple stores, yesterday taking a look at iPhone 14
> Pro Max.  
> 
> It is my hope to purchase an iPhone 14 model with a physical SIM tray.
> 
> While discussing this with a store manager, I was somewhat surprised to
> learn that, according to him, the store has been inundated  by customers who
> only want to buy iPhone 14 with a physical SIM tray.  He told me that they
> are working on crafting an in-store response to the enquiries designed to
> discouraged customers from seeking a physical SIM tray.  He followed that up
> by saying, "I know you, Mark, and no response is going to keep you from
> getting that SIM tray model, if that is what you want."  (smile)  He is a
> very smart man (smile).
> 
> So, the search begins.
> 
> Does anyone know away to purchase an iPhone 14 Pro Max with a physical SIM
> tray, from within the United States?
> 
> Some people are saying that if you buy a model from the Apple online store,
> without designating a wireless provider, that Apple will ship you a model
> with a physical SIM tray.  However, I cannot locate anyone to confirm this.
> 
> Make no mistake, I'm not above taking a short trek up to Canada to pick up a
> model but if I can avoid it, I would prefer to do so.
> 
> I have a friend who is heading to Japan in a couple of weeks and, of course,
> I could have the friend pick up a model, in Japan, but that makes me
> somewhat uncomfortable; I don't know why.  I think I'd rather go to Canada,
> in person, to grab a model.
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated. 
> 
> Mark  
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Re: battery health

[CHELA Robles]

The old phone function on low power mode at 30% for an hour, but half an hour, when low power mode was off my replacement still is a 95% batterySent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2022, at 7:04 PM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:U, What I was trying to ask is this. I wonder how long that phone will function with a battery that is at 30% of its original 100% power level. 1 hour?  Or, maybe a bit more? James B   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA RoblesSent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 7:05 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: battery health Well, seeing as is Apple supports released devices for 6 years before they call it quits, here is what I found make of it what you will: https://www.alphr.com/iphone-8-support-end-date/Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2022, at 3:31 PM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:Yeah.  I wonder how long that phone works before it goes dead.James B  -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CarolynSent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 4:25 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: battery healthWow, I can't imagine maximum battery capacity in the 30 percents. -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CHELA RoblesSent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 4:14 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: battery healthI remember when I had to get my replacement iPhone 8 Plus last year that my other one was significantly degraded as far as the battery health goes and it was at 30% or at least around there I can’t exactly remember but I know it was lower than 50%. sorry for any dictation errors.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2022, at 12:47 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: Good grief. Mine on my 11 is at 90% after almost three years.  -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerardo CorripioSent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 12:21 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: battery health It’s at 80% because mine at 79% after having this SE2020 for two years and months (JUne of 2020), and mine says the battery is degraded, and it’s at 79%. Even though it’s degraded, Ihaven’t had any problems of the phone shutting down and others.  GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de TelcelEl 13 oct 2022, a la(s) 10:08 a.m., Les Kriegler  escribió:   Hi Paula,   I do recall a discussion about that a while back. I thought the number was 80%. I am actually assisting someone with this who has had her iPhone for three years. Her capacity is at 85%. I know mine was at the same level before I traded mine in for a new iPhone 14 Pro. if that number is incorrect, I’m certain somebody will jump in and provide the specific number.    Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Paula Jordan  wrote:    Hi all. Some time ago there was discussion about when to replace an iphone  battery. I remember that at a certain percentage level shown in the battery health setting you should consider replacing the battery, but I can’t remember what that percentage is. Could someone please refresh my memory. Thanks in advance.   God bless!   Paula and the pups --   The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.   If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.   Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com   The archives for this list can be searched at:  http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/  ---   You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.  To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com  .  To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/019a01d8df12%242aa37370%247fea5a50%24%40roadrunner.com  .  --   The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.   If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.   Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com   The archives for this list can be searched at:  http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/  

Re: battery health

[CHELA Robles]

Well, seeing as is Apple supports released devices for 6 years before they call 
it quits, here is what I found make of it what you will: 
https://www.alphr.com/iphone-8-support-end-date/

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> On Oct 13, 2022, at 3:31 PM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Yeah.  I wonder how long that phone works before it goes dead.
> 
> James B  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 4:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: battery health
> 
> Wow, I can't imagine maximum battery capacity in the 30 percents. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> CHELA Robles
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 4:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: battery health
> 
> I remember when I had to get my replacement iPhone 8 Plus last year that my 
> other one was significantly degraded as far as the battery health goes and it 
> was at 30% or at least around there I can’t exactly remember but I know it 
> was lower than 50%. sorry for any dictation errors.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2022, at 12:47 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Good grief. Mine on my 11 is at 90% after almost three years. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Gerardo Corripio
>> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 12:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: battery health
>> 
>> It’s at 80% because mine at 79% after having this SE2020 for two years and 
>> months (JUne of 2020), and mine says the battery is degraded, and it’s at 
>> 79%. Even though it’s degraded, Ihaven’t had any problems of the phone 
>> shutting down and others.
>> 
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>> 
>> 
>>   El 13 oct 2022, a la(s) 10:08 a.m., Les Kriegler  
>> escribió:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   
>>   Hi Paula,
>> 
>>   I do recall a discussion about that a while back. I thought the number was 
>> 80%. I am actually assisting someone with this who has had her iPhone for 
>> three years. Her capacity is at 85%. I know mine was at the same level 
>> before I traded mine in for a new iPhone 14 Pro. if that number is 
>> incorrect, I’m certain somebody will jump in and provide the specific 
>> number. 
>> 
>>   Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>>   On Oct 13, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Paula Jordan  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   
>> 
>>   Hi all. Some time ago there was discussion about when to replace an 
>> iphone  battery. I remember that at a certain percentage level shown in the 
>> battery health setting you should consider replacing the battery, but I 
>> can’t remember what that percentage is. Could someone please refresh my 
>> memory. Thanks in advance.
>> 
>>   God bless!
>> 
>>   Paula and the pups
>> 
>> 
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Re: battery health

[Chela Robles]

Well, I didn't have a choice since I am part of my father's family
plan with AT I didn't have a say-so. He wanted to do the cheapest
thing he could afford.

On 10/13/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> I wouldn't have gotten the same phone as before.  The iPhone 8 phones
> are very much out of date compared to the new phones.  I don't know
> how much longer they will be supported.  I know the iPhone 8 won't be
> updated beyond 16.
>
> On 10/13/22, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>> Yes, well Carolyn, you gotta understand that I had the iPhone 8 Plus for
>> 2
>> 1/2 maybe three years before it started having issues like no one could
>> hear
>> my audio and then no one could see my video and then VoiceOver started
>> wigging out on me. A lot of other things happened but luckily my dad was
>> smart enough to actually get warranty for my phone so I was able to get a
>> Phone for only $350 and it’s the same model I had before and I got it
>> last
>> year. and also since I was traveling a lot during 2017, 1819 and 20, I
>> did
>> have to use my phone a lot because I had four modes of transportation to
>> connect with and that was going to and from work five days a week for
>> approximately 10 1/2 months. A year. also, when I was stuck in traffic
>> during rides to and from work, I would use my phone to pass the time by
>> listening to music or watch some TV or catch up on some podcasts or
>> Messages
>> mail, etc. Maybe even read a good book from the national library service
>> for
>> the print disabled. perhaps even a game or two.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 13, 2022, at 2:24 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow, I can't imagine maximum battery capacity in the 30 percents.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of CHELA Robles
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 4:14 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: battery health
>>>
>>> I remember when I had to get my replacement iPhone 8 Plus last year that
>>> my other one was significantly degraded as far as the battery health
>>> goes
>>> and it was at 30% or at least around there I can’t exactly remember but
>>> I
>>> know it was lower than 50%. sorry for any dictation errors.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Oct 13, 2022, at 12:47 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Good grief. Mine on my 11 is at 90% after almost three years.
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 12:21 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: battery health
>>>>
>>>> It’s at 80% because mine at 79% after having this SE2020 for two years
>>>> and months (JUne of 2020), and mine says the battery is degraded, and
>>>> it’s at 79%. Even though it’s degraded, Ihaven’t had any problems of
>>>> the
>>>> phone shutting down and others.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gera
>>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   El 13 oct 2022, a la(s) 10:08 a.m., Les Kriegler
>>>> 
>>>> escribió:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>   Hi Paula,
>>>>
>>>>   I do recall a discussion about that a while back. I thought the
>>>> number
>>>> was 80%. I am actually assisting someone with this who has had her
>>>> iPhone
>>>> for three years. Her capacity is at 85%. I know mine was at the same
>>>> level before I traded mine in for a new iPhone 14 Pro. if that number
>>>> is
>>>> incorrect, I’m certain somebody will jump in and provide the specific
>>>> number.
>>>>
>>>>   Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   On Oct 13, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Paula Jordan
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>   Hi all. Some time ago there was discussion about when to replace
>>>> an
>>>> iphone  battery. I remember that at a certain percentage level shown in
>>>> the battery health setting you should c

Re: battery health

[CHELA Robles]

Yes, well Carolyn, you gotta understand that I had the iPhone 8 Plus for 2 1/2 
maybe three years before it started having issues like no one could hear my 
audio and then no one could see my video and then VoiceOver started wigging out 
on me. A lot of other things happened but luckily my dad was smart enough to 
actually get warranty for my phone so I was able to get a Phone for only $350 
and it’s the same model I had before and I got it last year. and also since I 
was traveling a lot during 2017, 1819 and 20, I did have to use my phone a lot 
because I had four modes of transportation to connect with and that was going 
to and from work five days a week for approximately 10 1/2 months. A year. 
also, when I was stuck in traffic during rides to and from work, I would use my 
phone to pass the time by listening to music or watch some TV or catch up on 
some podcasts or Messages mail, etc. Maybe even read a good book from the 
national library service for the print disabled. perhaps even a game or two.

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> On Oct 13, 2022, at 2:24 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Wow, I can't imagine maximum battery capacity in the 30 percents. 
> 
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> 
> I remember when I had to get my replacement iPhone 8 Plus last year that my 
> other one was significantly degraded as far as the battery health goes and it 
> was at 30% or at least around there I can’t exactly remember but I know it 
> was lower than 50%. sorry for any dictation errors.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> Good grief. Mine on my 11 is at 90% after almost three years. 
>> 
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>> 
>> It’s at 80% because mine at 79% after having this SE2020 for two years and 
>> months (JUne of 2020), and mine says the battery is degraded, and it’s at 
>> 79%. Even though it’s degraded, Ihaven’t had any problems of the phone 
>> shutting down and others.
>> 
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
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>>   El 13 oct 2022, a la(s) 10:08 a.m., Les Kriegler  
>> escribió:
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>>   
>>   Hi Paula,
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>>   I do recall a discussion about that a while back. I thought the number was 
>> 80%. I am actually assisting someone with this who has had her iPhone for 
>> three years. Her capacity is at 85%. I know mine was at the same level 
>> before I traded mine in for a new iPhone 14 Pro. if that number is 
>> incorrect, I’m certain somebody will jump in and provide the specific 
>> number. 
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[CHELA Robles]

I remember when I had to get my replacement iPhone 8 Plus last year that my 
other one was significantly degraded as far as the battery health goes and it 
was at 30% or at least around there I can’t exactly remember but I know it was 
lower than 50%. sorry for any dictation errors.

Sent from my iPhone

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> Good grief. Mine on my 11 is at 90% after almost three years. 
> 
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> It’s at 80% because mine at 79% after having this SE2020 for two years and 
> months (JUne of 2020), and mine says the battery is degraded, and it’s at 
> 79%. Even though it’s degraded, Ihaven’t had any problems of the phone 
> shutting down and others.
> 
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
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>El 13 oct 2022, a la(s) 10:08 a.m., Les Kriegler  
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>I do recall a discussion about that a while back. I thought the number was 
> 80%. I am actually assisting someone with this who has had her iPhone for 
> three years. Her capacity is at 85%. I know mine was at the same level before 
> I traded mine in for a new iPhone 14 Pro. if that number is incorrect, I’m 
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> 
>Sent from my iPhone
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>Hi all. Some time ago there was discussion about when to replace an 
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> battery health setting you should consider replacing the battery, but I can’t 
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> Thanks in advance.
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>God bless!
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>Paula and the pups
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And for those of you who have Apple watches there’s an update for that too. It is 9.0.2. It was a very smooth install for me on my Apple Watch five.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 10, 2022, at 4:03 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:But still the notification Voiceover bug persists  I was so hoping it’d been resolved in this update!GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de TelcelEl 10 oct 2022, a la(s) 1:46 p.m., literophi...@myself.com escribió:Subject line is self-explanatory, take care! Best,Leo Bado 



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I have also heard that they hire a blind people to work in their warehouses. I’m not sure what they do there, but that’s where the aid of Aira comes into play. sorry for any dictation errors.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 8, 2022, at 10:56 AM, Marda  wrote:
  

  
  
Amazon in America does have at least one blind person that I read
  an article about.  Don't know about other countries.  Also it may
  depend on what position you are applying for.  The person I read
  about works in a position where he is making their products more
  accessible to people with all kinds of disabilities.  So they are
  willing to employ a blind person in that type of job but I don't
  know how they feel about their other positions.  Sometimes I have
  seen companies who are willing to employ blind people in something
  like an accessibility related job but it doesn't always extend to
  their other jobs and sometimes the discrimination is really subtle
  and difficult to prove.  But I know I have gone through much
  rejection by employers and did eventually get jobs but sometimes
  you have to experience a lot of rejection before you land a job. 
  It can be very difficult and discouraging.  I know someone that
  lost a job and went for seven years without getting another and
  with going through tons of sending out resumes and applying for
  jobs and this person was very educated and capable and had worked
  successfully as a blind person and after seven years he did find a
  job where he is happy and happens to also be making quite a bit of
  money.  Obviously it doesn't work to that degree for everyone.  I
  don't make the kind of money he does and I'm only working very
  part-time.  So every case will be different.  I hope though that
  you will keep trying to find a job and if you want to work at
  amazon I'd say go for it and see what happens.  You might get more
  rejection but you'll never know if you don't try and even if they
  have rejected people in the past there might be a new person
  working there now that does things ddifferently.  It's very
  tempting to give up.  I have had times when I did.  But I hope you
  will be able to have the strength to keep trying.
Marda

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Hi,
 
Does Amazon employ blind people? 
I saw a job in Israel, and applied, but I
  had a negative past with so many companies, according to my
  blindness, so, I don’t know… 
 
Many companies just rejected me because of
  my disability. 
 
 
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Re: working at amazon

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Maybe you guys didn’t see it but I did respond with a link to join a list of discussion about jobs. It’s through the NFB. and yes, he did subscribe to that list but no one has responded to his question yet when he asked it.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 8, 2022, at 9:35 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







It is not, but there is little point in asking about employment at Amazon in Israel if most people on the list are in the United States and other countries. Same goes for let's use Apple
 Cash as an example. It is not available in many countries so at least if I live in Canada and were curious about it I should say where I live so people give me relevant information. Lastly, this type of question is still entirely off-topic so as I said, maybe
 asking people to send you private email if they  know of a list which deals with employment questions is OK, but to start a discussion with dozens of messages half of which are from people who say that this is off-topic is of no use to the original poster
 nor to anybody else.
 


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Hello,

 


Is it a list for a particular country?

Lyne






Le 8 oct. 2022 à 08:55, CHELA Robles  a écrit :




Here you go a jobs-discussion list: https://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/job-discussions_nfbnet.org

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On Oct 8, 2022, at 5:30 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:




Sorry, I meant for a iPhone discussion list, but I think Afik asked this also on one of the Jaws lists.

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Is this really on topic for a Jaws discussion list? I am sure there are lists for discussing employment, maybe somebody can suggest one so this discussion takes place where it is on topic.
There is little use to talk about Amazon jobs in the US if the person is asking about jobs in Israel.

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Subject: Re: working at amazon

Yes they do -- at least here in the U.S.  I think they even let you use Aira as an accomodation.

What kind of job are you looking for?

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Hi,


 


 


 


Does Amazon employ blind people? 


 


I saw a job in Israel, and applied, but I had a negative past with so



many companies, according to my blindness, so, I don't know.


 


 


 


Many companies just rejected me because of my disability. 



 


 


 


 


 


Thanks much,


 


 


 


Afik


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


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Here you go a jobs-discussion list: 
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Re: working at amazon

[CHELA Robles]

I am of the understanding the job. John is referring to is actually warehouse 
work. I could be wrong.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 8, 2022, at 3:17 AM, Afik Souffir  wrote:
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> Hi John, 
> I'm looking for customer service or job about accessibility. 
> 
> They will let me use JAWS, and Braille display? 
> 
> 
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> Yes they do -- at least here in the U.S.  I think they even let you use Aira 
> as an accomodation.
> 
> What kind of job are you looking for?
> 
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Re: An Issue With Siri

[CHELA Robles]

Just say no start over speaking clearly and slowly but not too slow. I got it to work that way yesterday. i’m open to other suggestions too. What what I did say, yesterday was no, change it, and then siri was able to change it for me.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 1, 2022, at 8:00 AM, Noe Villeda  wrote:Hello list, In previous versions of iOS, when dictating a text message to Siri, it would give you the option to edit the message before sending.  Now, it just sends the message as is, so if Siri misheard something you said, it will send the message complete with errors. Does anyone know of a workaround for this?  



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Re: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot

[CHELA Robles]

The only workaround I see in regards to the phone, not having speech when 
rebooting, it is to actually plug it in to the charger and have the charger 
miraculously restart the phone and then possibly tell Siri to turn on voiceover 
if voiceover is off and if it’s on already and it’s not speaking, then tell 
Siri to turn it off and then turn it on see what happens. just a possibility. 
something to try out.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2022, at 3:28 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Mine happened with Evan Enhanced. I would have switched back to Samantha, 
> but someone on this or another list said it happened to their phone with 
> Samantha. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> CHELA Robles
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 6:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
> 
> You know what’s really weird is I have not experienced what you guys have 
> experienced and I’m running iOS 16 it may be the voice I’m using I’m using 
> Fred, which is not a new voice, but I figured perhaps maybe if this does 
> happen again, maybe plug the phone in and it will automatically start and 
> then it’ll vibrate or make that noise start up sound or whatever it does when 
> you charge the phone and then maybe VoiceOver might come on, but I don’t 
> know. At any rate, I’m glad you solved the issue. I just on an iPhone 8 plus 
> and haven't got that issue yet, what voices does this happen with? This is 
> for my own curiosity. older voices or newer voices? Or maybe even a 
> combination of both?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2022, at 2:18 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>> 
>> A friend of mine using iPhone 8 had the same problem after updating to iOS 
>> 16. We solved the problem by deleting the voices and reinstalling them 
>> again. That took care of the voice over problem not talking.
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Sep 19, 2022, at 3:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't really think it's that many compared to how many people (sighted 
>>> or blind) are using the iPhone. I don't recall exactly how many say they 
>>> had this issue, but I bet it wasn't more than 4 or 5.
>>> I have an iPhone 11 and had no issues whatsoever with Voiceover not 
>>> speaking when I reboot the phone.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Karen Poulakos
>>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 12:43 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
>>> 
>>> Has anyone tried using an external braille display, like the Orbit Reader 
>>> 20 Plus,  to get the phone up and running without Voiceover?  I haven't 
>>> turned my phone off since updating, but am almost afraid to after hearing 
>>> from so many who have had this problem.  
>>> 
>>> My phone is an SE 2022.  I tried several voices, and went back to Samantha.
>>> 
>>> Karen P
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Carolyn
>>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 1:38 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
>>> 
>>> I could not use Rotor or keypad without Voiceover. So, if Voiceover does 
>>> not work, my phone is as good as a piece of garbage to me. 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 1:58 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
>>> 
>>> Just FYI, if  you have a Bluetooth keyboard connected to your phone you can 
>>> enter your PIN on it and using the numbers row on a keyboard or a NumPad if 
>>> you have something like a Logitech K780 should be a lot easier and 
>>> successful than trying to tap the right numbers on the touchscreen without 
>>> feedback.
>>> 
>>> Alternatively if you have handwriting added to your rotor and know how to 
>>> enter handwriting you can enter your PIN this way, but again it's probably 
>>> hit and miss without feedback. I just tried it for the first time in a long 
>>> time and for some reason when I turn the rotor to the right which does 
&g

Re: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot

[CHELA Robles]

On the subject of oddities, with voiceover, why won't the voice I choose for my 
Apple watch switch from siri say to Fred for example or Alex? I have watchOS 9. 
I wonder if the subject of not getting any speech on the phone happens with 
Alex as well sorry for flip-flopping back and forth.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2022, at 3:28 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Mine happened with Evan Enhanced. I would have switched back to Samantha, 
> but someone on this or another list said it happened to their phone with 
> Samantha. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> CHELA Robles
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 6:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
> 
> You know what’s really weird is I have not experienced what you guys have 
> experienced and I’m running iOS 16 it may be the voice I’m using I’m using 
> Fred, which is not a new voice, but I figured perhaps maybe if this does 
> happen again, maybe plug the phone in and it will automatically start and 
> then it’ll vibrate or make that noise start up sound or whatever it does when 
> you charge the phone and then maybe VoiceOver might come on, but I don’t 
> know. At any rate, I’m glad you solved the issue. I just on an iPhone 8 plus 
> and haven't got that issue yet, what voices does this happen with? This is 
> for my own curiosity. older voices or newer voices? Or maybe even a 
> combination of both?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2022, at 2:18 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>> 
>> A friend of mine using iPhone 8 had the same problem after updating to iOS 
>> 16. We solved the problem by deleting the voices and reinstalling them 
>> again. That took care of the voice over problem not talking.
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Sep 19, 2022, at 3:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't really think it's that many compared to how many people (sighted 
>>> or blind) are using the iPhone. I don't recall exactly how many say they 
>>> had this issue, but I bet it wasn't more than 4 or 5.
>>> I have an iPhone 11 and had no issues whatsoever with Voiceover not 
>>> speaking when I reboot the phone.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Karen Poulakos
>>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 12:43 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
>>> 
>>> Has anyone tried using an external braille display, like the Orbit Reader 
>>> 20 Plus,  to get the phone up and running without Voiceover?  I haven't 
>>> turned my phone off since updating, but am almost afraid to after hearing 
>>> from so many who have had this problem.  
>>> 
>>> My phone is an SE 2022.  I tried several voices, and went back to Samantha.
>>> 
>>> Karen P
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Carolyn
>>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 1:38 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
>>> 
>>> I could not use Rotor or keypad without Voiceover. So, if Voiceover does 
>>> not work, my phone is as good as a piece of garbage to me. 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 1:58 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
>>> 
>>> Just FYI, if  you have a Bluetooth keyboard connected to your phone you can 
>>> enter your PIN on it and using the numbers row on a keyboard or a NumPad if 
>>> you have something like a Logitech K780 should be a lot easier and 
>>> successful than trying to tap the right numbers on the touchscreen without 
>>> feedback.
>>> 
>>> Alternatively if you have handwriting added to your rotor and know how to 
>>> enter handwriting you can enter your PIN this way, but again it's probably 
>>> hit and miss without feedback. I just tried it for the first time in a long 
>>> time and for some reason when I turn the rotor to the right which does 
>>> bring up handwriting on the lock screen it defaults to lower case and I 
>>> have to swipe down tw

Re: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot

[CHELA Robles]

You know what’s really weird is I have not experienced what you guys have 
experienced and I’m running iOS 16 it may be the voice I’m using I’m using 
Fred, which is not a new voice, but I figured perhaps maybe if this does happen 
again, maybe plug the phone in and it will automatically start and then it’ll 
vibrate or make that noise start up sound or whatever it does when you charge 
the phone and then maybe VoiceOver might come on, but I don’t know. At any 
rate, I’m glad you solved the issue. I just on an iPhone 8 plus and haven't got 
that issue yet, what voices does this happen with? This is for my own 
curiosity. older voices or newer voices? Or maybe even a combination of both?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2022, at 2:18 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
> A friend of mine using iPhone 8 had the same problem after updating to iOS 
> 16. We solved the problem by deleting the voices and reinstalling them again. 
> That took care of the voice over problem not talking.
> Cheers
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2022, at 3:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't really think it's that many compared to how many people (sighted or 
>> blind) are using the iPhone. I don't recall exactly how many say they had 
>> this issue, but I bet it wasn't more than 4 or 5.
>> I have an iPhone 11 and had no issues whatsoever with Voiceover not speaking 
>> when I reboot the phone.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
>> Poulakos
>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 12:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
>> 
>> Has anyone tried using an external braille display, like the Orbit Reader 20 
>> Plus,  to get the phone up and running without Voiceover?  I haven't turned 
>> my phone off since updating, but am almost afraid to after hearing from so 
>> many who have had this problem.  
>> 
>> My phone is an SE 2022.  I tried several voices, and went back to Samantha.
>> 
>> Karen P
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 1:38 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
>> 
>> I could not use Rotor or keypad without Voiceover. So, if Voiceover does not 
>> work, my phone is as good as a piece of garbage to me. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 1:58 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
>> 
>> Just FYI, if  you have a Bluetooth keyboard connected to your phone you can 
>> enter your PIN on it and using the numbers row on a keyboard or a NumPad if 
>> you have something like a Logitech K780 should be a lot easier and 
>> successful than trying to tap the right numbers on the touchscreen without 
>> feedback.
>> 
>> Alternatively if you have handwriting added to your rotor and know how to 
>> enter handwriting you can enter your PIN this way, but again it's probably 
>> hit and miss without feedback. I just tried it for the first time in a long 
>> time and for some reason when I turn the rotor to the right which does bring 
>> up handwriting on the lock screen it defaults to lower case and I have to 
>> swipe down twice with 3 fingers to get to numbers, then I can write my PIN 
>> numbers on the screen and the phone unlocks.
>> 
>> I will write to Apple Accessibility because I think by default if you have a 
>> number field only like with the PIN entry field it would be nice if once you 
>> turned the rotor to handwriting it would automatically default to numbers 
>> entry.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
>> Collins
>> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 8:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I had this same thing happen with both my 12 Mini and 13 Mini Friday night, 
>> but I haven�t had the problem with either phone since. I�m using the default 
>> Samantha voice, and I had no problems when upgrading to iOS 16.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> With the 13 Mini, I had turned the phone off to get rid of that one unread 
>> message badge I often get now when I receive a text message on one of my 
>> phones and delete it right after reading. Since I have text message 
>> forwarding set up on both of my phones, the phone on which I don�t read the 
>> text shows that badge until I either recover the message I have deleted on 
>> the other phone or until I reboot that phone on which I haven�t read the 
>> message.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Anyway, after turning that iPhone 13 Mini back on, VoiceOver did not speak 
>> or make any sounds, and nothing I did from trying to talk to Siri, using 
>> headphones, turning up the volume button, doing the 

Re: Anyone else have Voiceover speak slower since iOS 16?

[CHELA Robles]

I can only compare it to jaws and it sounds like it’s at 15% for me even at 50% rate which is weird on an iPhone 8 Plus. and this is for eloquence. Haven’t tried it with Alex yet.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2022, at 10:09 AM, Kevin Minor  wrote:







Hi.
 
I was using Alex as my voice, but switched to Eloquence. In both cases, 50% sounded the same rate wise.
 
Kevin, Valerie and Jilly
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 1:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Anyone else have Voiceover speak slower since iOS 16?


 
Which voice are you using?
 
If anything, it seems like my usual 60 percent with Tom Enhanced and now with Jamie premium or enhanced, whatever it is, is a tiny bit faster.
I slowed them down to 55% and that seems closer to what I had before.  Interesting.
 
iPhone 13 pro.
 
 

 
Richard
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礪

 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Anyone else have Voiceover speak slower since iOS 16?


 
Hi.
 
I’m not one of those that has Voiceover speak very fast. I was happy with 50% speaking rate. When I upgraded to iOS 16, however, the speech is noticeably slower. I checked the rate, and it’s still at 50%. I increased it on the home screen
 to 55%, and it significantly got faster than what I’m used to on my phone. I think it will work, so I’m not that worried about it. I guess I could make a finer adjustment in Voiceover settings, so I might do that in the end.
 
This is just information, and not really a complaint.
 
Kevin, Valerie and Jilly
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Re: Ending a call with side button VoiceOver iOS16

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Not to be extremely nitpicky, but the one bug I’ve seen since iOS 14 at least maybe a little longer but anyway I see every time I’m in an email message, when there is no more text on the line, voiceover reads it as if it were her actions menu, and it says, swipe up or down to select a customer shin and double tap to activate it. I kinda wish that would go away. anyway, I’m using an iPhone 8 plus.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2022, at 9:38 AM, manyofus1...@gmail.com wrote:That is a neat thing you can do to end a call!shirley From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: 13 September 2022 17:37To: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Ending a call with side button VoiceOver iOS16 It works fine for me.It is by default enabled.Just in case, check: Open the Settings app on your iPhone or iPad.From the options, double tap Accessibility.Scroll down and under “PHYSICAL AND MOTOR”, double tap on Touch.Look for  Prevent lock to end call, which defaults to off.  If you don't want the side/lock button to end calls, double tap to turn that on. Remember, it both ends the call and locks the phone.You can also say Hey Siri, hang up call if you use Hey Siri, or hold the side button in and say hang up call. Richard“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard My web site: https://www.turner42.com礪 -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rafal MarzecSent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 2:10 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Ending a call with side button VoiceOver iOS16 I’m also interested how to do it I’ve got iPhone 13 Pro Max do you know how to set up it Sent from my iPhone > On 13 Sep 2022, at 6:48 am, Shai  wrote:> > Hello all,> I tried to end a call using the sleep/wake button on my iPhone10r> iOS16 with VoiceOver; however, I noticed that it did not end a call > when pressed. I tried both against my ear and while on speaker phone.> Has anyone gotten this feature to work and if so, how did you do it? I > made sure that prevent lock button from ending call is turned to off > under accessibility/touch.> > > --> Shai Wolman> Wolman Assistive> (619)894-6587> An accessibility services company providing training to children and adults!> To get in touch or for more information, please visit my website at > wolmanassistive.com> > --> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.> > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  > mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > The archives for this list can be searched at:> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/> ---> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAL%2BOAfbp5nF1M1OU-no3u5W1x8KppiqjFb4BRs-M3_65NwccvQ%40mail.gmail.com. --The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1FD05FA2-EF80-48F1-8759-35B5AD2CB922%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send 

Re: Novelty voices

[CHELA Robles]

If you go to the Applevis site you'll see some podcasts with the new voice 
samples.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 13, 2022, at 9:34 AM, James English  wrote:
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> I'm kinda curious now, but my phone doesn't support ios 16. What are
> the new options I'm missing out on?
> 
>> On 9/13/22, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>> I don't recall Applevis saying anything about Welsh voices.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Sep 13, 2022, at 9:30 AM, Julie Dawson 
>>> wrote:
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>>> 
>>> Someone talked about Welsh voices but I can't find them. Are they only
>>> available on the apple watch not on the iPhone?
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: manyofus1...@gmail.com
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 11:24 AM
>>>> Subject: Novelty voices
>>>> 
>>>> I just updated to IOS 16.
>>>> 
>>>> Why on earth did they include novelty voices?
>>>> 
>>>> They are awful! And so weird!
>>>> 
>>>> Who’ll even use them?
>>>> 
>>>> I am using the UK voice, stephanie right now.
>>>> 
>>>> Shirley
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Re: Novelty voices

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I don't recall Applevis saying anything about Welsh voices.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2022, at 9:30 AM, Julie Dawson  wrote:






Someone talked about Welsh voices but I can't find 
them. Are they only available on the apple watch not on the iPhone?
 

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  I just updated to IOS 
  16.
  Why on earth did they include novelty 
  voices?
  They are awful! And so 
  weird!
  Who’ll even use 
them?
  I am using the UK voice, stephanie right 
  now.
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Re: App switcher issue in IOS 16

[CHELA Robles]

I am getting an interesting thing where when I swipe up with three fingers to 
close the app, the context menu to add a widget so I pretty much just press the 
home button to get out of that on my iPhone 8 Plus. I hope they do get this 
fixed in an upcoming version.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 13, 2022, at 8:49 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I'm not having much trouble closing apps either.  If you listen for
> the word active after the app you want to close, this usually works
> for me.
> 
>> On 9/13/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> I have no trouble finding the apps in the app switcher.  Check kind of in
>> the center of the screen.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of
>> thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My web site:   https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 礪
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 5:57 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: App switcher issue in IOS 16
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> For me, the apps in the app switcher seem to be in a smaller area.
>> 
>> I haven’t taken the time to isolate that yet.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of
>> thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com 
>> 
>> 礪
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
>> joediner...@gmail.com 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 3:53 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: App switcher issue in IOS 16
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I thought I read about a bug in IOS 16 with the app switcher, and after
>> upgrading to the OS last night, I am experiencing an issue where I cant see
>> the apps in the app switcher. Do I recall correctly that this is a known
>> issue?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Joe
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Re: Novelty voices

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Apparently, there are weird people out there that like those weird novelties it brings some sort of nos nostalgia or something. right now I’m using eloquence, but I have a habit of changing to other natural voices from time to time. I did try good news and it freaked me out a bit too. But I understood since it was all in English it was just singing to me. Anyway, how do you like Stephanie?Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2022, at 9:24 AM, manyofus1...@gmail.com wrote:I just updated to IOS 16.Why on earth did they include novelty voices?They are awful! And so weird!Who’ll even use them?I am using the UK voice, stephanie right now.Shirley



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Re: New Siri sound

[CHELA Robles]

I really like the new sounds for dictation microphone and Siri.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 13, 2022, at 7:40 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
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> I can't really hear it, but just have tried it to see how it worked, and I 
> got questions answered. 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Julie Dawson
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 7:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> The new sound is very different. I just set up my new Iphone SE3.
> 
> - Original Message - 
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> To: 
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> Subject: New Siri sound
> 
> 
>> I don't care for the new sound to invoke Siri, as I have a hearing loss, 
>> and the sound is too low to hear well, unless the volume is high.
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Re: New voices iOS 16

[CHELA Robles]

Well, sometimes I like hearing the higher quality voices too, and sometimes having Siri be my voice of Joyce. I like your voice three American. when it comes to Siri, of course :-) it is great that Apple took into consideration various options for several peoples suggestions. It’s great to have more than one voice. Now I have to set up my Apple Watch. It just booted up with watchOS 9. but oh, so many voices to choose from I do like the Scottish voice I may from time to time use it. but I do use the Irish voice in March. Why well you know when Saint Paddy‘s day comes along I like to hear the Irish accent. I don’t care for Moira much, but I do like the Siri Irish voices. I wish they had a series, Scottish voice, or a set of male and female Scottish Siri voices that be cool.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 12, 2022, at 3:04 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:







Well, I used to use Eloquence on my PC and then I switched to eSpeak when I was using Linux. Now that I’m an old man, I figure I deserve a nice quality voice, and I’m not in a hurry like I was when I wore a younger man’s clothes!
 

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Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 5:00 PM
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Subject: Re: New voices iOS 16


 
Her voice sounds really good. Premium quality is amazing on some of those voices that offer all three voice types. By the way, it was kind of funny to read your message. Christopher with the good news, voice
 singing your whole email message quite interesting. Indeed I switched it to eloquence though, because then I can hear it at a much faster speed that I’m used to reading emails in on my windows, computer. I usually have it set to 70% on my computer if you were
 wondering.

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I was already a fan of Ava, so I can’t wait to check out the premium version!
 

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Subject: New voices iOS 16


 

I personally like the following new voices.


Scotland, Fiona enhanced, UK Jamie premium, and Ava prrmium.


 


 

 


 


 


 


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Re: New voices iOS 16

[CHELA Robles]

Her voice sounds really good. Premium quality is amazing on some of those voices that offer all three voice types. By the way, it was kind of funny to read your message. Christopher with the good news, voice singing your whole email message quite interesting. Indeed I switched it to eloquence though, because then I can hear it at a much faster speed that I’m used to reading emails in on my windows, computer. I usually have it set to 70% on my computer if you were wondering.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 12, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:







I was already a fan of Ava, so I can’t wait to check out the premium version!
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 4:08 PM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: New voices iOS 16


 

I personally like the following new voices.


Scotland, Fiona enhanced, UK Jamie premium, and Ava prrmium.


 


 

 


 


 


 


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Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

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> From: David Goldfield 
> Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
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> Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
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> From the Tech-VI list owner:
> The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play a chime 
> during the boot process. This has been an option which many blind iPhone 
> users have wanted for years. Rather than posting the entire article I am 
> pasting just the relevant section below. If you go to the original source 
> link you can hear what the new chime sounds like. Please note that on my PC 
> the sound was a bit louder than expected. Those using headphones, earbuds or 
> who have sensitivity to loud sounds should be aware of this.
>  
> Original Source
>  
> 
> Boot chime for iPhone 14 Pro
> 
> Another new feature coming to iPhone 14 Pro models is a boot chime. More 
> specifically, users will have the option to make the iPhone play a sound 
> every time the device is turned on or off as part of the iOS accessibility 
> features.
> 
> Since the startup sound is played during the boot process, the chime is part 
> of the bootrom of the new A16 chip – which is probably why this option is not 
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Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

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I also read the pro models will have a chime at start up. I will forward the 
email I got.

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> On Sep 7, 2022, at 8:35 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> The satellite alert was the most compelling part of the presentation.
> An article in Mac Rumors says the service will not be available until
> November. It will also not work above 62 degrees latitude, which is
> the far northern parts of Canada and Alaska.
> 
> I believe Apple is offering it free because it wants to be the first
> phone with satellite communication. It has not figured out how to
> price the service and who should provide it long term so Apple is
> giving itself two years to figure all of this out.
> 
> Personally, I live in a big city and use Verizon as my network, which
> has the greatest amount of coverage of any cell phone network in
> America. I would rarely if ever need the service. I love my 13 Mini
> and will wait until at least for the USB-C iPhones.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
>> On 9/7/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and the
>> build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during the event
>> that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for cycle tracking and
>> may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, they did not say you could
>> simply use it to measure your body temperature as you can with a Withings
>> Thermo or other body temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or
>> not.
>> T
>> He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba diving
>> than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to the Philippines
>> I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a dive computer; but it's
>> definitely an impressive watch.
>> 
>> The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they didn't
>> say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple released a new
>> iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one from the year
>> before.
>> The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera system
>> and always-on display possible.
>> I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency SOS via
>> satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when they said it
>> was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would indicate, however,
>> that ultimately it will be  a paid service and of course let's not forget
>> that it is only available for the United States and Canada at that point.
>> For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always the case
>> (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where it took a while
>> for Canada to get it).
>> Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you are
>> driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will never happen)
>> you may get help quicker.
>> As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus.
>> Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured.
>> Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 models will
>> now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on.
>> 
>> Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 or 13
>> Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you spend
>> considerable time out of cell service and may want the added peace of mind
>> the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also share your location via
>> Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite figured out if you can simply send
>> text messages to somebody else, but I don't think so. If you have dedicated
>> devices like Garmin's Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course
>> also requires you to subscribe to one of their plans, you can text anybody
>> and receive text replies from anybody and you don't have to make a big
>> production of pointing your iPhone to where the satellite is. An Inreach or
>> Zoleo in fact can be in your backpack's top pocket and it works just fine
>> and none of these devices have an external antenna which during the
>> presentation Apple hinted would be required. Anyways, the satellite SOS is
>> definitely a good start and once again something new and innovative Apple
>> has introduced and I would bet money on it that within the next year or so
>> Android phones will be released which also have this. What surprised me was
>> that Apple seems to have set u p their own centre for this, but that is
>> probably the only way they can offer this for free and they also didn't say
>> which satellite network they use for this, i.e. Iridium or Globalstar.
>> 
>> Will I upgrade from my iPhone 11? I honestly haven't decided, but if I do it
>> would definitely be to a 14 Pro because then at least I would also gain the
>> LiDAR feature.
>> As for the Apple Watch I think I'll stick with my sixth Gen watch, it
>> doesn't have blood oxygen or the new temperature sensor, but unless I
>> experience what Arnold 

Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

[CHELA Robles]

One more thing to add the AirPods Pro is getting a new upgrade starting at $249 
as usual so I may trade in my current version or iteration of the pros and get 
the next pro model they have tinier earbud silicone tips which is what I need 
since the current ones are not tiny enough for my ear canals lol!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 7, 2022, at 4:38 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> I also have the Apple Watch latest edition of the SE. I find that there is 
> no reason to upgrade from this particular watch.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!
> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2022, at 7:37 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>> 
>> I find that there is no reason to upgrade from the iPhone 13 Pro.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!
>> 
 On Sep 7, 2022, at 4:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and the 
>>> build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during the event 
>>> that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for cycle tracking and 
>>> may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, they did not say you could 
>>> simply use it to measure your body temperature as you can with a Withings 
>>> Thermo or other body temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or 
>>> not.
>>> T
>>> He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba diving 
>>> than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to the Philippines 
>>> I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a dive computer; but it's 
>>> definitely an impressive watch.
>>>  
>>> The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they didn't 
>>> say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple released a 
>>> new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one from the year 
>>> before.
>>> The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera 
>>> system and always-on display possible.
>>> I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency SOS via 
>>> satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when they said it 
>>> was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would indicate, however, 
>>> that ultimately it will be  a paid service and of course let's not forget 
>>> that it is only available for the United States and Canada at that point. 
>>> For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always the 
>>> case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where it took a 
>>> while for Canada to get it).
>>> Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you are 
>>> driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will never 
>>> happen) you may get help quicker.
>>> As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus.
>>> Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured.
>>> Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 models 
>>> will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on.
>>>  
>>> Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 or 13 
>>> Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you spend 
>>> considerable time out of cell service and may want the added peace of mind 
>>> the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also share your location 
>>> via Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite figured out if you can simply 
>>> send text messages to somebody else, but I don't think so. If you have 
>>> dedicated devices like Garmin's Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger 
>>> which of course also requires you to subscribe to one of their plans, you 
>>> can text anybody and receive text replies from anybody and you don't have 
>>> to make a big production of pointing your iPhone to where the satellite is. 
>>> An Inreach or Zoleo in fact can be in your backpack's top pocket and it 
>>> works just fine and none of these devices have an external antenna which 
>>> during the presentation Apple hinted would be required. Anyways, the 
>>> satellite SOS is definitely a good start and once again something new and 
>>> innovative Apple has introduced and I would bet money on it that within the 
>>> next year or so Android phones will be released which also have this. What 
>>> surprised me was that Apple seems to have set u p their own centre for 
>>> this, but that is probably the only way they can offer this for free and 
>>> they also didn't say which satellite network they use for this, i.e. 
>>> Iridium or Globalstar.
>>>  
>>> Will I upgrade from my iPhone 11? I honestly haven't decided, but if I do 
>>> it would definitely be to a 14 Pro because then at least I would also gain 
>>> the LiDAR feature.
>>> As for the Apple Watch I think I'll stick with my sixth Gen watch, it 
>>> doesn't have blood oxygen or the new temperature sensor, but unless I 
>>> experience what Arnold Schwarzenegger did in "Junior" I doubt I'll be 
>>> pregnant any time soon.
>>> In any case, I'll wait to see if my 

Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

[CHELA Robles]

Well I thought the audio description was really good. I just wanna say that I’m 
gonna stick with my iPhone 8 Plus until it’s no longer supported with iOS 
versions anymore and obviously until it bites the dust or greatly has a 
significantly degraded battery then I will consider the later models of phones 
as for the Apple Watch I have The fifth series and until that bites the dust 
and is no longer supported regarding watchOS versions, I will use that. The 
ultrasounds really good and so does the eight model. No mention of iOS 16 being 
compatible with older phones but we shall see once it’s rolled out. if I 
remember correctly the 8+ will support iOS 16 but I could be very wrong. and of 
course I think watchOS 9 will support series 5 of its watch.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 7, 2022, at 4:38 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> I also have the Apple Watch latest edition of the SE. I find that there is 
> no reason to upgrade from this particular watch.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!
> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2022, at 7:37 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>> 
>> I find that there is no reason to upgrade from the iPhone 13 Pro.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!
>> 
 On Sep 7, 2022, at 4:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and the 
>>> build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during the event 
>>> that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for cycle tracking and 
>>> may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, they did not say you could 
>>> simply use it to measure your body temperature as you can with a Withings 
>>> Thermo or other body temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or 
>>> not.
>>> T
>>> He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba diving 
>>> than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to the Philippines 
>>> I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a dive computer; but it's 
>>> definitely an impressive watch.
>>>  
>>> The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they didn't 
>>> say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple released a 
>>> new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one from the year 
>>> before.
>>> The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera 
>>> system and always-on display possible.
>>> I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency SOS via 
>>> satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when they said it 
>>> was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would indicate, however, 
>>> that ultimately it will be  a paid service and of course let's not forget 
>>> that it is only available for the United States and Canada at that point. 
>>> For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always the 
>>> case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where it took a 
>>> while for Canada to get it).
>>> Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you are 
>>> driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will never 
>>> happen) you may get help quicker.
>>> As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus.
>>> Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured.
>>> Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 models 
>>> will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on.
>>>  
>>> Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 or 13 
>>> Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you spend 
>>> considerable time out of cell service and may want the added peace of mind 
>>> the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also share your location 
>>> via Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite figured out if you can simply 
>>> send text messages to somebody else, but I don't think so. If you have 
>>> dedicated devices like Garmin's Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger 
>>> which of course also requires you to subscribe to one of their plans, you 
>>> can text anybody and receive text replies from anybody and you don't have 
>>> to make a big production of pointing your iPhone to where the satellite is. 
>>> An Inreach or Zoleo in fact can be in your backpack's top pocket and it 
>>> works just fine and none of these devices have an external antenna which 
>>> during the presentation Apple hinted would be required. Anyways, the 
>>> satellite SOS is definitely a good start and once again something new and 
>>> innovative Apple has introduced and I would bet money on it that within the 
>>> next year or so Android phones will be released which also have this. What 
>>> surprised me was that Apple seems to have set u p their own centre for 
>>> this, but that is probably the only way they can offer this for free and 
>>> they also didn't say which satellite network they use for this, i.e. 
>>> Iridium or Globalstar.
>>>  
>>> Will I upgrade from my 

Re: Reccomendations for an iPhone scan stand

[CHELA Robles]

Blind mice megamall has one called the Danny boy scan stand or something like 
that.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 25, 2022, at 8:36 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello list,
> Was wondering what scan stands folks are using with their iPhones or could 
> recommend for a new iPhone user. I personally don’t use one, but a friend of 
> mine is a recent android switcher to iPhone and he’s at that stage where his 
> RP is making him more reliant on VoiceOver than magnification. So he’s 
> relatively new to OCR apps and in general the VO environment that we’d 
> generally use. Included in this is getting the hang of scanning random 
> documents and mail and such. His frustration level right now like I’m sure a 
> lot of us experienced is … pretty high. I believe he’s got an iPhone 13 if 
> that makes any sort of difference.
> Thanks,
> Cristóbal
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Re: Any Advice on Setting up the NLS e-Reader Humanware Braille Display with iOS / iPad OS?

[CHELA Robles]

Hey I do have the e-reader and will gladly be able to help you if you’d like 
what I had to do was go to where it says connections when you turn on the 
braille display and then I had to go to my iPhone go to the voiceover settings 
within the settings app go to braille and search for the e-reader there and 
then double tap on that and it should automatically Connect I don’t recall if I 
had to put in a special pin but definitely worth looking over the manual and 
yes it is pretty straightforward. If you have any more questions regarding the 
E reader feel free to reach out and I’ll be able to help you. As for a 
dedicated list I was told that there wasn’t an actual e-reader list for email 
but like I said if you need any help I can help you with it. I also own a a 
HumanWare Brailliant BI X 40, which actually operates similarly to the EReader.

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> On Aug 23, 2022, at 1:01 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I received the NLS e-reader 20-cell HumanWare Braille display, today.
> 
> It's adorable.
> 
> Any advice about setting it up with iOS / iPad OS?  I assume it should be
> rather straight-forward, right?
> 
> Of course, I will read the included user guide but wanted to avoid any
> growing pain by consulting with those of you already using it.
> 
> By the way, is there a email support list for the reader?
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
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Re: New Apple device security flaw discovered

[CHELA Robles]

Interesting. I own an 8+ and I already got the latest iOS update which is 
15.6.1. I got it last night or early this morning it did it automatically. i’m 
not seeing the bug that you’re mentioning. maybe hit or miss.

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> A friend sent me an article on Skype through Skype news about that it 
> affects from the iPhone 6s on up, including computers. An  IOS update is 
> available. Since hadn’t heard anything about it here, thought would let you 
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Re: Thoughts on Brailliant?

[CHELA Robles]

I'm still quite new to my brailliant BI X 40 but know it also comes in a 20 
cell model which is probably what she's looking for.
I really like mine I just got mine not too long ago I have the 47 model. Maybe 
someone else more knowledgeable can tell you about the commands as well but I 
would also ask HumanWare questions as they more likely will be able to help 
you. Good luck. there are also tutorials on how to use the series. it’s working 
well with my iPhone that’s for sure I’m really liking it very nice.

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> My wife is looking for a good braille display and we're looking at the 
> Brailliant.
> 
> She is used to the old Braille Note (the Apex) so is wondering how similar 
> the commands are to that.
> 
> She wants to be able to use it standalone to cantor at church in particular. 
> I know you can load documents on it, right?
> 
> Any information or tips would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Brandon
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Re: WalkAssist is back in the app store! Request from developer

[CHELA Robles]

This sounds like a very cool app. thanks for sharing.

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> On Aug 16, 2022, at 3:52 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Sounds great.
> If you haven’t, do delete the app and download the new version.
>  
> Then, let her know how it goes at walkassist@gmail.com
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
> which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
>  
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> 礪
>  
> From: 'Sarah Leadbetter' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 1:06 PM
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>  
> Thanks for letting us know, i will give the app a try when i go out in my 
> local area, best wishes, Sarah.
> 
> Saz Leadbetter 
> 
> 
> On 16 Aug 2022, at 18:38, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> Greetings,
> The creator of the WalkAssist app would appreciate people giving the new 
> version a try and sending her feedback at: walkassist@gmail.com
>  
> The WalkAssist app is now back in the app store and has some improvements for 
> newer phones where it had a slow response time.  You may find you have to 
> redownload the app even if you have the old version still on your phone.
> They are working on making it also work in Portrait mode.
> Here is the description from the app store and the link.
> Description
> 
> WalkAssist recognizes traffic related objects(crosswalk signal, crosswalk, 
> and traffic signals) and alerts you through voice alerts.
>  Use it with a 
> harness for the best results. The voice will only work if your ringer is on. 
> Note that the current version only works in landscape mode on most 
> devices(this will be fixed soon in the next version). It is not a substitute 
> for your orientation and mobility skills. It does not replace you current 
> mobility aid, but is rather intended to act as an additional aid to enhance 
> your orientation and navigation skills.
>  
> 
> Please be aware of your surroundings while using the app. It is your 
> responsibility to maintain your personal safety at all times while using 
> WalkAssist.
> more
> What’s New
> Version History, Jul 22, 2022,  Version 1.1
> Increased frequency of voice alerts & problems with latest phone models not 
> recognizing objects have been fixed
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/walkassist/id1615852366
>  
> Richard
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Re: Question about deleting text messages

[CHELA Robles]

Go to settings and then go to where it says messages and then go to the heading 
that says message history and then you’ll see a button that you can toggle on 
where you can actually delete after a certain amount of days or keep forever 
and later on there’s a heading that says audio it’s the same deal as well.

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> On Aug 10, 2022, at 8:08 AM, Rena  wrote:
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> 
> How do I go to message settings?
>  
> Rena
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
> Facer
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>  
> Hi Rita,
>  
> Those options I believe only apply to voice messages that are iMessages. 
> These settings are in the messages part of settings. If you want to delete 
> just regular texts, you will have to do that manually. Hope this helps,
>  
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
> 
> On Aug 9, 2022, at 12:42 PM, Rena  wrote:
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> 
> Hello,
>  
> Sometime ago I found something that said to keep messages forever, delete 
> after a month and some another option that I don’t remember. I clicked on 
> deleting after a month, but it seems that I didn’t succeeded.
> I don’t remember where I found these options, if I opened settings, or it was 
> in the same messages app.
> I have iPhone SE 20 fully updated.
> Would anyone please remind me about that?
>  
> Rena
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Re: Family calendar

[CHELA Robles]

I cannot comment since I don’t use family calendar. I use Siri to create my 
appointments.

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> On Jul 29, 2022, at 9:02 AM, Jenny Bomareto 
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> Hello,
> 
> I sent three messages yesterday the first one sent too soon. It would be 
> greatly appreciated if someone or whoever many people respond to tell me 
> about the issue I’m having with the family calendar.
> 
> Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
> Jenny Bomareto
> 
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Re: Playing with the camera app

[CHELA Robles]

Oh Richard I’m so jealous of you and all of you who on later models. I have the 
iPhone 8 plus. I’ve had it since 2018 and the first time I had to have a 
replacement iPhone 8 Plus was this year in January. The reason was because the 
battery was significantly degraded like it does over time of use. since it was 
under warranty, they were able to find a replacement iPhone 8 Plus for me. It 
was what my father could afford. now that I know that the Lions vision resource 
network has grants every year, maybe next time, I can apply to get the later 
iPhone. I already applied to get a braille display.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 28, 2022, at 5:06 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I’d bet that since you’re using a 13 Pro, you’re also getting the advantage 
> of LiDAR.
>  
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> Chaltain at Outlook
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Playing with the camera app
>  
> I had not messed with this for identifying things for a while.
> So, I open the camera, double tapped on view finder.
> I pointed the camera in front of myself, and it was talking about a person 
> standing in front of a fireplace in a room.
> I mentioned that to my sighted wife and she said, yes, it's Tom.
> There is a piccture of my late brother in a nice shadow box on our mantle.
> It is appoximately 12 feet from me. The picture is a 4 by 6 photo.
> The picture is indeed of him standing in front of their fireplace.
>  
>  
> That is better than any of the apps I've tried.
> There are no overhead lights on at the moment.
> I scanned around the room and it did a good job of identifying chairs, 
> tables, TV, etc.
> This is the 13 pro.
> I'm impressed.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
> 
> 
> On Jul 28, 2022, at 4:31 PM, Paula Jordan  wrote:
> 
> This really sounds cool, but I'm having a hard time getting it to work.  I 
> flick to view finder and it occasionally will say what is near, but, for 
> example, if I hold a dollar bill up it may say "currency" after a bit.   As I 
> walk around the room it may say "curtain and glass door"  but I can't figure 
> out how to hold or point it to make it more consistent.  Any thoughts.
> Thanks.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 2:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Playing with the camera app
> 
> You open the camera app and then you move VoiceOver focus to the view finder, 
> which is at the top of the screen. As long as the view finder has VoiceOver's 
> focus, you'll hear descriptions of whatever's in the view finder, such as 
> object recognition, text and apparently currency identification as well. 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 1:05 PM
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> 
> So, do you just open Camera? Then what, to read a bill? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 10:24 PM
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> Subject: RE: Playing with the camera app
> 
> Wow cool! I love the Microsoft Seeing AI app, but the cool thing about the 
> Camera app is that it does all of this without having to switch between 
> channels!
> 
> 
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> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 8:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Playing with the camera app
> 
> 
> 
> Chris, The camera can also identify U.S paper currency, just point the camera 
> at the paper bill. Have no idea if it can identify any other countr's paper 
> currency.
> 
> 
> 
> Donna
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>This is probably old news to everyone, but I just stumbled across 
> something, and I’m so excited, I want to share. This is how clueless I am, 
> but I was looking for a screen recording I’d just done, and not knowing where 
> else to look, I brought up the camera app. While I was exploring the camera 
> app, I heard it announcing things like no people, keyboard, … I realized it 
> was telling me what was on my desk! After playing around, I found out that if 
> you move focus to the top to the view finder, the camera app will read text 
> to you and identify objects. I ran downstairs to show my wife, and I heard it 
> say “cat on a flat surface with a laptop and a glass with a beverage”. I was 
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Re: Playing with the camera app

[CHELA Robles]

Makes me wish I could have one of the newer models I have an iPhone 8 +256 GB 
space gray. At least the InVision app works very well too. I found that seeing 
AI was a bit buggy on my phone but I like envision AI as well.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 27, 2022, at 7:24 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Wow cool! I love the Microsoft Seeing AI app, but the cool thing about the 
> Camera app is that it does all of this without having to switch between 
> channels!
>  
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 8:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Playing with the camera app
>  
> Chris, The camera can also identify U.S paper currency, just point the camera 
> at the paper bill. Have no idea if it can identify any other countr's paper 
> currency.
>  
> Donna
>  
>  
> 
> This is probably old news to everyone, but I just stumbled across something, 
> and I’m so excited, I want to share. This is how clueless I am, but I was 
> looking for a screen recording I’d just done, and not knowing where else to 
> look, I brought up the camera app. While I was exploring the camera app, I 
> heard it announcing things like no people, keyboard, … I realized it was 
> telling me what was on my desk! After playing around, I found out that if you 
> move focus to the top to the view finder, the camera app will read text to 
> you and identify objects. I ran downstairs to show my wife, and I heard it 
> say “cat on a flat surface with a laptop and a glass with a beverage”. I was 
> pointing it at my kitchen table which had our cat on it, waiting to be fed, 
> my wife’s laptop and her glass of sparkling water! It’s not going to replace 
> the Seeing AI app for me yet, but it seemed awfully fast and accurate!
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Re: Playing with the camera app

[CHELA Robles]

Those features do not work on iPhone 8 models and under. 

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> On Jul 27, 2022, at 6:12 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
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> 
> True, but when I read that post and other articles on the web, it sounded 
> like the live text feature was just for OCR on text and the image recognition 
> feature only worked on photos. Obviously, I could have read things wrong, but 
> I was still surprised when placing VoiceOver focus in the view finder of my 
> camera app instantly recognized object and did OCR on any text it came across 
> all at the same time.
>  
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 7:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Playing with the camera app
>  
> This is why I always read the Applevis.com blog upon each release of iOS, 
> iPadOS, or WatchOS.
> The live text feature came in iOS 15 last September.
> There is also a podcast by Thomas Donnville on the live text feature.
> You can read that blog post here:
> https://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-releases-ios-15-ipados-15-bringing-focus-modes-live-text-enhancements-multitasking
>  
> I do not recall if older phones cannot perform the live text do to their chip 
> limitation; but a call to Apple Accessibility would answer that. 
> 1-877-204-3930
> HTH,
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
> 
> 
> On Jul 27, 2022, at 4:43 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I’m running the latest IOS on an iPhone 11.
>  
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> From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 3:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>  
> Chris,
> I just tried this on my iPhone 8 running the latest iOS, and all I was told 
> about was faces. What phone and which iOS are you running?
> Thanks, looks very interesting, Sandy
>  
> Sent from The dark side of the moon
> 
> 
> 
> On 27 Jul 2022, at 01:10, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> 
> This is probably old news to everyone, but I just stumbled across something, 
> and I’m so excited, I want to share. This is how clueless I am, but I was 
> looking for a screen recording I’d just done, and not knowing where else to 
> look, I brought up the camera app. While I was exploring the camera app, I 
> heard it announcing things like no people, keyboard, … I realized it was 
> telling me what was on my desk! After playing around, I found out that if you 
> move focus to the top to the view finder, the camera app will read text to 
> you and identify objects. I ran downstairs to show my wife, and I heard it 
> say “cat on a flat surface with a laptop and a glass with a beverage”. I was 
> pointing it at my kitchen table which had our cat on it, waiting to be fed, 
> my wife’s laptop and her glass of sparkling water! It’s not going to replace 
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Re: Any Accessible pitch pipe apps that make drone sound

[CHELA Robles]

Richard the one that you mentioned that was your favorite does not do what I 
want it to do so I’ll most likely get the other one that you mentioned the 
smart metronome plus because what I want to do is I want to be able to buzz 
into the mouthpiece and play these exercises I have in mind against the root 
note for example if the tone were a C, then I would play notes in that scale 
etc. Against that see tone.  It's an exercise series for wind instrumentalists, 
especially brasswind instrumentalists who do buzzing exercises into their 
mouthpieces or the various aids, like Stomvi Up-Sound.

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> Smart metronom plus has a tuning section that plays a tone for you to use to 
> tune an instrument to.
> My favorite though is Talking Tuner, 99¢ where you play a note and it tells 
> you how sharp, flat it is or if it is in tune.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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> 
>>> On Jul 22, 2022, at 12:47 PM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>> 
>> Hey guys I was just wondering if there are any accessible apps that can 
>> actually make a sound of a drone like maybe a pitch pipe or something for 
>> iPhone. Alternatively I could probably use a tuner app maybe but I have 
>> tempo perfect which I believe is just a metronome but just was wondering if 
>> you are out there who may be musicians know of any such App.
>> 
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Any Accessible pitch pipe apps that make drone sound

[CHELA Robles]

Hey guys I was just wondering if there are any accessible apps that can 
actually make a sound of a drone like maybe a pitch pipe or something for 
iPhone. Alternatively I could probably use a tuner app maybe but I have tempo 
perfect which I believe is just a metronome but just was wondering if you are 
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Re: Lost Vault

[CHELA Robles]

I found and download it. I will add you to the original poster.

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> On Jun 9, 2022, at 7:51 PM, Grace  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Molly,
> 
> Yes, I run a tribe myself, and other than the people I actually know from 
> other places, I have no idea and have not asked whether the other members are 
> cited or blind. It’s probably the first game I have played where it literally 
> does not matter if you can see or not.
> 
>>> On 10 Jun 2022, at 9:09 am, Molly O'Sullivan  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> Here’s the Applevis link for the game: 
>> 
>> https://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/games/lost-vault-idle-retro-rpg
>> 
>> Grace, I agree that more people should play. The developer seems to be 
>> taking accessibility seriously, and I like that it is a game both blind and 
>> sighted can play equally. I don’t think my tribe knows I can’t see. :p 
>> Molly
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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 On Jun 9, 2022, at 6:37 PM, Grace  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I am playing it and really enjoy it.I am Atalante on there and you can send 
>>> me a pm if you get stuck. Also, under my resources at the top left hand 
>>> corner of the screen, there is a spot where you can enter a referral code. 
>>> I if you use my code TWMRAX
>>> 
 You get 10 free bottle caps.  
>>> I hope more blind players join this role-playing game which is great fun 
>>> and quite addictive it. :)
>>> have a nice day, Grace
>>> 
> On 10 Jun 2022, at 5:47 am, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
 
 I've never heard of that game before.
 Devin Prater
 r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 4:44 PM Molly O'Sullivan 
>  wrote:
> Is anyone playing this game?  I am really enjoying this completely 
> accessable rpg. 
> I am fayeThe Man on there, and I am newly cheif of the tribe Chalupas, if 
> anyone is interested in joining!
> 
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Re: Lost Vault

[CHELA Robles]

Where can I get it and I would love to join your tribe once I figure out how to 
set up my username I’ll add you. By the way I love Chalupa‘s from Taco Bell.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 9, 2022, at 6:09 PM, Molly O'Sullivan  
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> Here’s the Applevis link for the game: 
> 
> https://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/games/lost-vault-idle-retro-rpg
> 
> Grace, I agree that more people should play. The developer seems to be taking 
> accessibility seriously, and I like that it is a game both blind and sighted 
> can play equally. I don’t think my tribe knows I can’t see. :p 
> Molly
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jun 9, 2022, at 6:37 PM, Grace  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I am playing it and really enjoy it.I am Atalante on there and you can send 
>> me a pm if you get stuck. Also, under my resources at the top left hand 
>> corner of the screen, there is a spot where you can enter a referral code. I 
>> if you use my code TWMRAX
>> 
>>> You get 10 free bottle caps.  
>> I hope more blind players join this role-playing game which is great fun and 
>> quite addictive it. :)
>> have a nice day, Grace
>> 
 On 10 Jun 2022, at 5:47 am, Devin Prater  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> I've never heard of that game before.
>>> Devin Prater
>>> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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  wrote:
 Is anyone playing this game?  I am really enjoying this completely 
 accessable rpg. 
 I am fayeThe Man on there, and I am newly cheif of the tribe Chalupas, if 
 anyone is interested in joining!
 
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Re: what's new for IOS16?

[CHELA Robles]

They got some Dectalk voices as well as one learn-out and Hospie voice, I know 
I’m misspelling the last part of that but one of the newer voices reminds me of 
one of the many classic voices I remember. On one of the old notetakers that I 
used to have way back in the early 90s and 2000s maybe early 2000. It was a 
high-pitched one to a woman’s voice not a kid one. I do like some of the deeper 
voices too. I particularly like the one that talks about the squares or 
triangles geometry or some form. He kind of sounds like a no at all lol! A 
technical know-it-all! LOL! :-) Looking forward to the new refresh of the OS. 
I’m gonna wait until the public releases out not the beta this is the only 
device I have if I had another Apple device I would totally go for the beta but 
this is my primary device. I hope dictation gets better as well sometimes I do 
use it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 8, 2022, at 7:30 PM, William James  wrote:
> 
> If you want it bad enough, you’ll use means of looking for it.  If you’re 
> curious, do you look things up?  I do.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone Pro Max
> 
>>> On Jun 8, 2022, at 11:14 AM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Yes, I know, people illegally make the developer betas available.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>>  
>> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Gerardo Corripio
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2022 8:11 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: what's new for IOS16?
>>  
>> Sorry for not clarifhying my original question because yes the Betas so work 
>> in spanish, thus my original question was if in order to get ahold of the 
>> Deveoper Betas, you need to be part of the Developper Program at $100usd), 
>> I’ve seveeral blind Spanish-speaking friends who are tyring out these 
>> developer Betas, for free; appartly Googling around, you can download a 
>> Developer Beta profile?
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>> 
>> 
>> El 8 jun 2022, a la(s) 10:08 a.m., Richard Turner 
>>  escribió:
>> 
>> 
>> I have no clue on the planet.
>>  
>> But, contacting Apple directly could answer your question if the betas work 
>> in Spanish.  I would be very surprised if they don’t.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>>  
>> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Gerardo Corripio
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2022 8:05 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: what's new for IOS16?
>>  
>> That’s what I thought; that you need to pay a year $100usd, but then how 
>> have some of the Spanish-speaking community have access to the developper 
>> Beta if they don’t pay or have some sort of a Developper account?
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> El 8 jun 2022, a la(s) 9:52 a.m., Richard Turner 
>>  escribió:
>> 
>> 
>> Right now, the betas are only for developers.  You can become a developer I 
>> think for $99.
>> Or, go head and sign up for the public betas which usually come out about a 
>> month after WWDC, so sometime in early July.
>> You sign up with the device you want to put betas on.  They never recommend 
>> putting betas on your primary device in case there are serious bugs, but 
>> that is everyone’s own choice.
>> https://beta.apple.com/sp/betaprogram
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>>  
>> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
>> Gazer
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2022 7:37 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: what's new for IOS16?
>>  
>> Can I download a beta of Ios 
>> 16? I’d love to try out the new voices
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
>> Robles
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2022 10:28 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: what's new for IOS16?
>>  
>> I wonder if iOS 16 will be available for iPhone 8 models like the iPhone 8 
>> Plus which is what I have. From what I heard they didn’t mention at the 
>> Keynote with models of iPhone that OS will be available on. Great news 
>> regarding the new voices.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>  
>> 
>> On Jun 8, 2022, at 5:48 AM, 'Ming' via VIPhone  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 

Re: what's new for IOS16?

[CHELA Robles]

I wonder if iOS 16 will be available for iPhone 8 models like the iPhone 8 Plus 
which is what I have. From what I heard they didn’t mention at the Keynote with 
models of iPhone that OS will be available on. Great news regarding the new 
voices.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 8, 2022, at 5:48 AM, 'Ming' via VIPhone  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> wondering 
> any new features for Voice over or accessibility?
> or any new voices for voice over as well?
> 
> 
> Ming tel: 6421 9950 msn/window live messenger chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com 
> skype: chungchiming9950 face book: http://www.facebook.com/mingcm1
> 
> Curtis Delzer () 在 2022年6月8日星期三 上午01:06:31 [GMT+8] 寫道：
> 
> 
> What’s New in iOS 16 for iPhone
> TIM BROOKES @timbrookes
> JUN 7, 2022, 9:30 AM EDT | 8 MIN READ
> iOS 16 logo
> Apple
> Apple announced iOS 16 for the iPhone at WWDC 2022. As usual, this 
> update is free and the release is expected in late September (2022). The 
> update is packed with tweaks that will hopefully change the way you use 
> your iPhone for the better.
> aclk sa=L=CCfPHV4OfYtK2ComF…
> 
> 
> A More Dynamic Lock Screen
> It’s been a while since Apple has done anything major to the Lock 
> Screen, but that changes with iOS 16. The update will allow you to 
> customize your Lock Screen colors, fonts, and even place and rearrange 
> widgets. In iOS 16 the Lock Screen feels more like an Apple Watch face 
> than a traditional static display.
> iOS 16 Lock Screen styles
> Apple
> Apple will even include a Lock Screen gallery that features designs to 
> inspire or download. Like an Apple Watch face, you can switch between 
> different Lock Screens with a tap-and-hold and then swipe. In addition 
> to fonts, a new multilayered photo effect and suggested photos will be 
> suggested, or choose a set of photos to shuffle automatically throughout 
> the day. You can even apply styles so that photos conform to a style of 
> your choosing in a complementary manner.
> Apple Will Revamp the iPhone Lock Screen for iOS 16
> RELATED
> Apple Will Revamp the iPhone Lock Screen for iOS 16
> Widgets are a bit like Watch face complications and include information 
> like your Watch activity rings, weather conditions, a world clock, 
> battery levels for accessories like AirPods, alarms you have set, and 
> more. There’s even a WidgetKit API that third-party apps will be able to 
> use to put information right there on your lock screen.
> iOS 16 Widgets
> Apple
> A new Live Activities feature pins what is effectively a notification 
> that updates itself to your lock screen. This allows you to follow live 
> events like sports games or workouts simply by raising your device, 
> complete with an API for developers to use. Notifications in general get 
> a slight boost with bold text and better images, and the Now Playing 
> screen gets a full-screen mode that makes better use of album art.
> ADVERTISEMENT
> Finally, you can also change the way Notifications display on your lock 
> screen. Not only are there new animations for a more visually pleasing 
> Lock Screen, but you can also choose from a list view, stack view, and 
> count view, and change the context on the fly. All these features make 
> for a more engaging way to interact with your iPhone without swiping 
> through to your Home screen.
> A More Powerful Focus Feature
> Focus allows you to remove distractions by delivering notifications 
> silently, muting distracting apps, and letting your contacts know that 
> you’ve snoozed notifications in apps like Messages. iOS 16 expands on 
> the feature set by linking your Lock Screen to your Focus, allowing you 
> to display certain Lock Screens (including designs, widgets, and styles) 
> when specific Focus modes are enabled.
> This functionality carries over to the Home screen, allowing you to hide 
> certain apps, or use specific widgets that are useful to whatever Focus 
> mode you have set. Focus filters let you set “boundaries” within apps 
> like Safari and Calendar, which will automatically recall specific tab 
> groups or hide certain calendars depending on what you’re doing.
> iOS 16 Focus Home Screen switching
> Apple
> Third-party developers get access to a new Focus filter API, allowing 
> them to build some of these more complex features into their apps. You 
> can also schedule Focus modes in iOS 16, allowing you to do things like 
> enabling your Work focus between certain hours or when you’re in a 
> specific location.
> New Messages Features
> iOS 16 users will be able to edit or unsend a message (within 15 minutes 
> of sending it) and recover deleted messages (within 30 days of deletion) 
> when chatting with other Apple users via the iMessage platform. You can 
> also mark any message (including SMS) as unread, a long-overdue feature.
> Edit Messages iOS 16
> Apple
> Apple is also expanding its SharePlay feature to Messages, allowing you 
> to send invites to synchronized activities like watching movies, working 
> out, or listening to 

Re: accessible metronome app for watch currently free

[CHELA Robles]

This tends to happen with the watchOS system it’s not the metronome itself 
according to reviews on the app page if you read carefully. I have a series 5 
so far it’s keeping 120 bpm very consistently. Also to Ginny facer sorry if I’m 
misspelling your name here but it’s taptic metronome only if you have it on 
silent mode will it emmit sound so you could still feel the tap on your wrist 
while you’re playing your flute I have experimented with piano and will later 
today with trumpet.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 5, 2022, at 1:18 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes I figured that out. But now I'm finding the app is not keeping a 
> consistent time.
> I have it set at 80 BPM, and after about 10 measures, it is like someone with 
> a skipping heart beat.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On Jun 5, 2022, at 12:51 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi Richard,
>> 
>> Turn off digital crown navigation with a 2-finger triple-tap, and you will 
>> be able to adjust the BPM with VoiceOver running. This isn't an 
>> accessibility problem; it's what you have to do anytime you want to use the 
>> digital crown to perform an app function rather than navigate the screen.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 5, 2022, at 2:32 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Richard,
>>> 
>>> Yes you are correct, I do not have crown navigation on. I also noticed that 
>>> when you turn the crown, each vibration you feel equals 1 beat. I just wish 
>>> I could turn the volume up. This could be a handy little tool for my flute 
>>> if I could hear it better.
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> 
>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>> 
> On Jun 5, 2022, at 1:22 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
 
 Jenn,
 I assume you don't have Digital Crown Navigation turned on then.
 
 
 
 
 
 Richard
 
 My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Jennie Facer
 Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2022 12:19 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: accessible metronome app for watch currently free
 
 Hi Richard and all,
 
 I am not experiencing the same things you are. I was able to adjust it 
 while it was playing just fine. Then i would tap stop to see what bpm I 
 had. It is totally awesome. I have a series 6 watch.
 
 Thanks for sharing,
 
 Jenn
 
 Jenn and Kumi
 
> On Jun 5, 2022, at 11:53 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, I just experimented some more and you have to turn VoiceOver off 
> to adjust the BPM.  Then, turn VoiceOver back on to double check your 
> setting and repeat as needed.
> I just wrote the developer from their web site.
> https://support.theivan.io/
> You have to fill out the contact form, check the box that says you 
> understand this information will be used to contact you and tab to the 
> send button and press space.
> You should get a message it was sent.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2022 10:08 AM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: accessible metronome app for watch currently free
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> AppsGoneFree told me about an app called Metronome for Watch, Haptic 
> Watch Metronome that is currently free. It works only on the watch and is 
> fully accessible; you adjust the BPM with the digital crown, and 
> VoiceOver reports what you've set it to. The watch taps your wrist and 
> also beeps if Silent Mode is off. There's also a start button, which 
> becomes a Stop button when you select it. The metronome isn't accurate on 
> my watch, but I think that's because it's a Series 3. Reviewers said it 
> works well on watches with the Always On feature. The link is
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/metronome-for-watch/id1498649562
> 
> HTH,
> Anna
> 
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Re: echo and echo dot

[CHELA Robles]

I have the third generation echo dot. It’s the last one that looks like a 
hockey puck the fourth generation looks more spherical. I’ve also heard that 
echo shows are really good to use as well I don’t have one but if I did it 
would probably be the echo show eight.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 21, 2022, at 1:58 PM, kheve...@fuse.net wrote:
> 
> 
> What is difference between the echo dot third and fourth generations?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> deidreandlou...@gmail.com
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: echo and echo dot
>  
> The object identification for the Echo Show is very slow and that's probably 
> because you need to know where you are standing for the camera to get the 
> best view. I didn't find it useful. My original Echo which is round with no 
> screen works great. The ones with screens miss a lot but I can't say if that 
> is more due to my internet or that they are far from fool proof. For the most 
> part, I love having them and use mine each day. If you don't need a screen 
> for any reason, don't bother buying the more expensive ones. Read the specs 
> for each device so you know what you are paying for. I bought an Echo 5 inch 
> screenn one for something like $33 a year or so ago for a friend,  and she 
> loves it. I can ask her to check in on my dog while I am away if I have any 
> concerns. Amazon had all kinds of promotional stuff when I bought my Echo 5 
> with a little screen and my Echo 10 and between a sale price and a 
> promotional extra many dollars off, I got a great deal on all of them.
>  
>Deidre
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> kheve...@fuse.net
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: echo and echo dot
>  
> Dan, I have used both the second and third generation of the echo dot.  I 
> think the third generation has much better sound quality.  It also has tactil 
> markers for all controls.  I also tried the echo show 2.  It has a camera and 
> even better sound quality that the echo dot.  A friend who has significant 
> hearing loss got it.  It claims to identify product labels, etc.  I found it 
> much more difficult to set up than the echo dot.  For whatever reason, I had 
> trouble getting it to tell me what various things were.  Maybe I did not give 
> it enough time.  I returned mine for a total refund.  Am pretty sure you 
> would be able to return the echo dot for full refund too. 
>  
> On a different tone, I like your ham call.  I’m W8TDA
> 73 Kitty
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> llump...@austin.rr.com
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 1:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: echo and echo dot
>  
> The Echo Dot can be had for less than $50 and is worth a try. You’ll probably 
> have to set it up through the Alexa app on your phone and you’ll need an 
> amazon account to link it to. Once set up, it should be fairly straight 
> forward to use. If it doesn’t work out, You can probably return it to amazon.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 12:31 PM
> To: 'cwc' via VIPhone 
> Subject: echo and echo dot
>  
> Hi all,
> 
>  
> 
> I recall seeing a fairly extensive discussion about these and other devices 
> but didn't pay much attention then because I didn't need one for myself.  I 
> still do not need one for myself but my Mom who is 89 this year and is not 
> very tech savvied has lost almost all of her sight and doesn't want to use VO 
> or talkback on her phone.  I am thinking of getting one of these because 
> after demoing giving voice commands to my Iphone she is now interested in 
> doing something similar but not to her phone.  Her occupational therapist has 
> convinced her that devices like echos and echo dots are more accurate and 
> would work better for her.  She says this is based on her experience as an OT.
> 
>  
> 
> My question is this, which devices seem the most forgiving for less than 
> perfect speech when giving voice commands?  We also do not want to spend a 
> ton of money in case this doesn't work out well for her.
> 
>  
> 
> Any thoughts/ideas greatly appreciated.
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Re: My experience with the NLS Reader

[CHELA Robles]

The NLS Humanware braille eReader 20-cell braille display and the pilate 
program for getting this and mobile hotspot devices for those who don't have 
Internet access. I filled out a survey and only checked the braille display 
apparently the state of California talking book library in northern California 
is partaking in this pilot program sometime this summer or fall. There were 
other options for devices that would be shipped to library patrons but since I 
did no need the other technologies offered like the hotspot device, I just 
chose the braille display.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 19, 2022, at 4:53 AM, Charles Spicer  wrote:
> 
> Good morning, I am not sure what device is being discussed so would
> you all please bring me up to speed?
> Thank you!!!
> 
>> On 5/18/22, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>> I filled out the survey from the BTBL which is also taking part in this
>> endeavour the pilate program in the summer or fall this year I had to fill
>> it out meaning of the survey before May 31 so I filled it out last night I’m
>> hoping to be selected to be part of this because I truly need a second
>> braille display. Right now I don’t have the Necessary funds for buying the
>> Actilino which I still would like in the future later on, but I'll take what
>> I can afford, even if it's a chance to take part in the pilate program. I
>> also would like to know about once the pilot program faces out if one can
>> keep the braille display as well and steps for that if need be. And if there
>> is a list for users in this program that would be nice as well. I will check
>> out the manual.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Apr 3, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all, I heard that there is a mailing list for the pilot program for
>>> the human where  e reader. Or the other one I guess is that true? If so
>>> does anybody have the way to join? Thanks
>>> 
>>> Lelia
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 3, 2022, at 1:17 AM, Joshua Hendrickson 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Pricilla.  The humanware braille E-reader is not the BI-20X
>>>> display, however, it is very similar.  I have a bi40x display instead
>>>> of the 20x.  There is an hour long tutorial of the humanware braille
>>>> E-reader available on bard that I highly recommend you take a quick
>>>> look at.  Regarding a nicer case for your display, I recommend
>>>> checking out the executive leather case for the bi20x display.  I saw
>>>> it available from AT guys.  The cost is $95 which is expensive for a
>>>> case, however, executive products makes wonderful cases and the cost
>>>> is well worth it in my opinion.  You'd then have the sholder strap
>>>> like you want, and the case is very nicely thick and padded for great
>>>> protection of your device.  One of the differences between the
>>>> humanware braille E-reader and the bi-20x display is on the 20x, you
>>>> can directly download books from bookshare and the braille E-reader
>>>> you cannot.  I'm glad you're enjoying your E-reader.
>>>> 
>>>>>> On 4/2/22, Priscilla Garces (prisci)  wrote:
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>> This is Priscilla. I have a couple questions since I am new to the NLS
>>>>> E-Reader pilot program and just received the NLS E-Reader because my
>>>>> library
>>>>> just got onboard.
>>>>> So far, I’ve had it for a week.
>>>>> I called my local Talking-book and Braille library and they said that
>>>>> they
>>>>> are currently participating in the pilot program. Some of my
>>>>> observations of
>>>>> the Humanware NLS E-reader are as follows:
>>>>> When opening the cardboard box containing the device, I got very
>>>>> excited
>>>>> because the braille display felt just right and pretty comfortable for
>>>>> me to
>>>>> use. I liked the ergonomic keys and the fact that the space keys were
>>>>> further apart from the braille display. That position is more
>>>>> comfortable
>>>>> for me, and the keys felt rather large. But then again,I have small
>>>>> hands
>>>>> and fingers because I’m very petite.
>>>>> It came with two lanyards, one for the case holding the braille display,
>>>>> and
>>>>> the other one for the braille display itself. When closed, the braille
>>>>

Re: My experience with the NLS Reader

[CHELA Robles]

Ok I'll make good and sure of that. Thanks for that prompt informal response. 
By the way love your quotes at the end of your messages.
I already downloaded the manual for this device. I’ve been reading all about it 
and it sounds pretty basic so should be very simple to use.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 18, 2022, at 6:37 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> The library that set; you up with the display has to also sign you up for 
> the mailing list.
> If they had you fill out the survey, I'd guess you have a good shot at being 
> accepted.
> So, if you get the device, ask the library to be sure and sign you up for the 
> mailing list. Only those with the device can be on the mailing list.
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On May 18, 2022, at 6:19 AM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>> 
>> I filled out the survey from the BTBL which is also taking part in this 
>> endeavour the pilate program in the summer or fall this year I had to fill 
>> it out meaning of the survey before May 31 so I filled it out last night I’m 
>> hoping to be selected to be part of this because I truly need a second 
>> braille display. Right now I don’t have the Necessary funds for buying the 
>> Actilino which I still would like in the future later on, but I'll take what 
>> I can afford, even if it's a chance to take part in the pilate program. I 
>> also would like to know about once the pilot program faces out if one can 
>> keep the braille display as well and steps for that if need be. And if there 
>> is a list for users in this program that would be nice as well. I will check 
>> out the manual.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 3, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all, I heard that there is a mailing list for the pilot program for the 
>>> human where  e reader. Or the other one I guess is that true? If so does 
>>> anybody have the way to join? Thanks
>>> 
>>> Lelia 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 3, 2022, at 1:17 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Pricilla.  The humanware braille E-reader is not the BI-20X
>>>> display, however, it is very similar.  I have a bi40x display instead
>>>> of the 20x.  There is an hour long tutorial of the humanware braille
>>>> E-reader available on bard that I highly recommend you take a quick
>>>> look at.  Regarding a nicer case for your display, I recommend
>>>> checking out the executive leather case for the bi20x display.  I saw
>>>> it available from AT guys.  The cost is $95 which is expensive for a
>>>> case, however, executive products makes wonderful cases and the cost
>>>> is well worth it in my opinion.  You'd then have the sholder strap
>>>> like you want, and the case is very nicely thick and padded for great
>>>> protection of your device.  One of the differences between the
>>>> humanware braille E-reader and the bi-20x display is on the 20x, you
>>>> can directly download books from bookshare and the braille E-reader
>>>> you cannot.  I'm glad you're enjoying your E-reader.
>>>> 
>>>>>> On 4/2/22, Priscilla Garces (prisci)  wrote:
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>> This is Priscilla. I have a couple questions since I am new to the NLS
>>>>> E-Reader pilot program and just received the NLS E-Reader because my 
>>>>> library
>>>>> just got onboard.
>>>>> So far, I’ve had it for a week.
>>>>> I called my local Talking-book and Braille library and they said that they
>>>>> are currently participating in the pilot program. Some of my observations 
>>>>> of
>>>>> the Humanware NLS E-reader are as follows:
>>>>> When opening the cardboard box containing the device, I got very excited
>>>>> because the braille display felt just right and pretty comfortable for me 
>>>>> to
>>>>> use. I liked the ergonomic keys and the fact that the space keys were
>>>>> further apart from the braille display. That position is more comfortable
>>>>> for me, and the keys felt rather large. But then again,I have small hands
>>>>> and fingers because I’m very petite.
>>>>> It came with two lanyards, one for the case holding the b

Re: My experience with the NLS Reader

[CHELA Robles]

I filled out the survey from the BTBL which is also taking part in this 
endeavour the pilate program in the summer or fall this year I had to fill it 
out meaning of the survey before May 31 so I filled it out last night I’m 
hoping to be selected to be part of this because I truly need a second braille 
display. Right now I don’t have the Necessary funds for buying the Actilino 
which I still would like in the future later on, but I'll take what I can 
afford, even if it's a chance to take part in the pilate program. I also would 
like to know about once the pilot program faces out if one can keep the braille 
display as well and steps for that if need be. And if there is a list for users 
in this program that would be nice as well. I will check out the manual.

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> On Apr 3, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, I heard that there is a mailing list for the pilot program for the 
> human where  e reader. Or the other one I guess is that true? If so does 
> anybody have the way to join? Thanks
> 
> Lelia 
> 
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> 
>> On Apr 3, 2022, at 1:17 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Pricilla.  The humanware braille E-reader is not the BI-20X
>> display, however, it is very similar.  I have a bi40x display instead
>> of the 20x.  There is an hour long tutorial of the humanware braille
>> E-reader available on bard that I highly recommend you take a quick
>> look at.  Regarding a nicer case for your display, I recommend
>> checking out the executive leather case for the bi20x display.  I saw
>> it available from AT guys.  The cost is $95 which is expensive for a
>> case, however, executive products makes wonderful cases and the cost
>> is well worth it in my opinion.  You'd then have the sholder strap
>> like you want, and the case is very nicely thick and padded for great
>> protection of your device.  One of the differences between the
>> humanware braille E-reader and the bi-20x display is on the 20x, you
>> can directly download books from bookshare and the braille E-reader
>> you cannot.  I'm glad you're enjoying your E-reader.
>> 
 On 4/2/22, Priscilla Garces (prisci)  wrote:
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> This is Priscilla. I have a couple questions since I am new to the NLS
>>> E-Reader pilot program and just received the NLS E-Reader because my library
>>> just got onboard.
>>> So far, I’ve had it for a week.
>>> I called my local Talking-book and Braille library and they said that they
>>> are currently participating in the pilot program. Some of my observations of
>>> the Humanware NLS E-reader are as follows:
>>> When opening the cardboard box containing the device, I got very excited
>>> because the braille display felt just right and pretty comfortable for me to
>>> use. I liked the ergonomic keys and the fact that the space keys were
>>> further apart from the braille display. That position is more comfortable
>>> for me, and the keys felt rather large. But then again,I have small hands
>>> and fingers because I’m very petite.
>>> It came with two lanyards, one for the case holding the braille display, and
>>> the other one for the braille display itself. When closed, the braille
>>> display looks like a small hardcover book which is cute, and with the
>>> straps, it feels like wearing a cute pocketbook.
>>> They’re meant to be hung around the neck, but I would prefer to use them as
>>> a shoulder strap and wear it as a small purse. Beware that the straps are
>>> indeed skinny and fragile, so you cannot put too much force on them. I’d
>>> prefer thicker straps with a stronger clip.
>>> Personally, I’d rather carry it in my regular purse than just by itself
>>> because chances are that one of the clips can break easily if not careful.
>>> 
>>> One thing I would like to have is the ability to use it as a basic notetaker
>>> though.
>>> I have a Macbook air M1 computer using VoiceOver, and to my surprise, it
>>> works beautifully when I connect it using the USBC cable that came with my
>>> laptop. It also charges the display which is a bonus, and I don’t need to
>>> bring multiple cables if I need to travel. I can leave the charger and cable
>>> at home.
>>> It also connects to my iPhone using bluetooth like all other devices.
>>> In comparison to the freedom scientific focus 40 braille display, the keys
>>> work better for me on this one and are quieter. I also like the fact that
>>> you can connect USB drives to the braille E-Reader.
>>> As for the focus 40 braille display I mainly use it for editing on my
>>> computer. With the focus 40, you need to bring the extra bulky charger which
>>> I don’t like because it doesn’t have the ability to charge using my
>>> computer. But with this new Humanware E-reader, you can do that, and it has
>>> a separate cable and wall charger which is a lot better.
>>> The braille  feels crisp for me to read. Also the cursor routing buttons
>>> feel like bump dots.
>>> It also has a memory card slot to insert a 

Re: Apple is discontinuing the iPod Touch

[CHELA Robles]

I love my product red one.

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> On May 12, 2022, at 2:40 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
> 
> 
> My iPod touch seventh generation was replaced a few months ago, so I’m good 
> for a while. I am attached to my devices, so have all the way back to the 
> fourth generation, plus an iPhone 5s. I understand, due to the supply issues 
> and needing to concentrate more on the iPhones, but I do like the iPod touch, 
> and sorry to see it go. It was good training wheels for feeling more 
> confident when I got my first phone.
> 
> 
> 
>>> On May 12, 2022, at 2:39 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> iPod touch will be available while supplies last
>> 
>> iPod redefined how music was discovered, listened to, and shared. iPod touch 
>> will be available while supplies last.
>> 
>> Since its introduction over 20 years ago, iPodhas captivated users all over 
>> the world who love the ability to take their music with them on the go. 
>> Today, the experience of taking one’s music library out into the world has 
>> been integrated across Apple’s product line — from iPhone and Apple Watch to 
>> iPad and Mac — along with access to more than 90 million songs and over 
>> 30,000 playlists available via Apple Music.
>> 
>> “Music has always been part of our core at Apple, and bringing it to 
>> hundreds of millions of users in the way iPod did impacted more than just 
>> the music industry — it also redefined how music is discovered, listened to, 
>> and shared,” said Greg Joswiak, Apple’s senior vice president of Worldwide 
>> Marketing. “Today, the spirit of iPod lives on. We’ve integrated an 
>> incredible music experience across all of our products, from the iPhone to 
>> the Apple Watch to HomePod mini, and across Mac, iPad, and Apple TV. And 
>> Apple Music delivers industry-leading sound quality with support for spatial 
>> audio — there’s no better way to enjoy, discover, and experience music.”
>> 
>> Among the incredible ways to enjoy music across a range of devices, 
>> including a wide variety of models from the new iPhone SE to the latest 
>> iPhone 13 Pro Max, iPhone is the best device for streaming Apple Music or 
>> storing an entire music library on the go. Apple Watch and AirPods are the 
>> perfect companion, allowing users to access over 90 million songs right from 
>> their wrist, starting at just $279 with Apple Watch SE. iPad starts at just 
>> $329, comes with a more powerful chip, larger display and the latest iPadOS 
>> features. And for the best way to enjoy music at home, HomePod mini is just 
>> $99.
>> 
>> An incredible music experience is integrated across Apple’s product line — 
>> from iPhone, Apple Watch, and AirPods to HomePod mini, iPad, and Mac.
>> 
>> Customers can purchase iPod touchthrough apple.com, Apple Store locations, 
>> and Apple Authorized Resellers while supplies last.
>> 
>>  
>> www.apple.com/newsroom/2022/05/the-music-lives-on/
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
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Re: Finding Video?

[CHELA Robles]

It will be in your camera roll. It will show the date of recording.

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> 
> Hi, Group.
> Yesterday, I went to the post office to mail something. I turned off 
> Voiceover and gave iPhone8 to post office assistant and asked him to take 
> photo of the receipt.
> When I came home and turned voiceover on, it said ‘stop video recording’. I 
> stopped it.
> My question is, when the video-recording button was on, there must be a video 
> of this recording somewhere, how can I find this video and delete it, please?
> Thanks!
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Re: Accessible Wordle Game

[CHELA Robles]

There is also heardle which is like Name That Tune as well. I really like that 
one. cannot remember the website right now at the top of my head but you can 
easily google it. It works on all platforms!

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> On Mar 17, 2022, at 9:55 AM, Debby  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Lynda,
>  
> If you go to the following link, there are instruction for making Wordle 
> accessible on the iPhone. It is doable, but it is much easier to set up on 
> the computer.
>  
> Accessible Wordle (minorninth.github.io)
>  
> If this is not clear, let me know, and I can try to help further.
>  
> Take care and stay safe!
>  
> Debby
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> lynda.ingra...@gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 12:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>  
> Does anyone know of an accessible wordle game for the iphone?
>  
> Thank you,
>  
> Lynda
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Re: Looking for accessible language learning Apps

[CHELA Robles]

Are you using voice over or are you using zoom? If using voice over everything 
reads out very well I’ve had no issues in setting up an account of course I did 
this a long time ago like back in 2014 I’m now in the Emerald league in Spanish 
because I want to brush up on it. So far so good. By the way I use voice over 
and I’m totally blind. Plus if you want to ever try to chat with anybody in 
Spanish I think for plus members that have certain audio classes to sign up for 
but I’ve never done that nor do I wish to do so but they do have stories to 
listen to that you can actually unlock it’s like reading comprehension they 
have a series of questions after that. There’s even a Spanish podcast with 
Duolingo. Anyway back to your set up, how did you choose a language without 
setting up an account first? Did you press like a skip button maybe that’s why?

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> On Mar 12, 2022, at 1:23 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Leo,
> 
> I find your comments intriguing and, quite frankly, enlightening.
> 
> Not to get too far off-point, I want to ask you if you find apps like Duo 
> Lingo, accessible and can one truly learn a language, in your opinion using 
> such apps?  If not, what do you recommend?
> 
> With regard to my recent experimentation with Duo Lingo, so far, I am not 
> finding the app accessible.
> 
> So, after opening the app, I did not create an account; at least not yet.  
> Perhaps this may have something to do with my interface experience.
> 
> Because I have a passing acquaintance  with the language, I selected Spanish 
> as my free language of choice.
> 
> What I am presented with is a grid of photos upon which I can tap to hear the 
> Spanish word for that particular photo, a man, a woman, a chair, etc.
> 
> As I said, my limited interface choices may have something to do with the 
> fact that I am using the app without providing an email address.  Or, perhaps 
> there is a setting I have yet to discover that would make the interface work 
> as Chela and Dave have described.
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Leo 
> Bado
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 9:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Looking for accessible language learning Apps
> 
> Hello Terri,
> Even though I see that other listers have already made suggestions, I would 
> like to say something. Indeed, what you’re looking for is called gaming in 
> the language-learning strategies of recent theoretical accounts. On the other 
> hand, decontextualized memorization and traditional approaches on language 
> learning are not sufficiently enough effective  to reach competence  in any 
> given spoken language. That only works for archeologists or linguists  
> researching on dead languages. 
> My suggestion is trying a holistic approach in which you can carry out 
> different activities related to the four basic skills in any given language. 
> Gaming is pretty good, but it is just a small part of the learning process. 
> Learning a language  as an adult is a complex process that requires getting 
> out of one’s comfort zone. However, this doesn’t mean that it should be 
> boring or nerve-wracking.  In short, I would suggest not letting false 
> expectations entice you.
> 
> Best,
> Leo Bado
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Terri Stimmel
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 5:12 PM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Looking for accessible language learning Apps
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I can't remember if this was recently asked here, or not. If so, I do 
> apologize. I know I saw similar questions somewhere.
> 
> 
> Anyway, I am looking for an accessible App, to help me possibly learn a 
> new language. I am most interested in learning Chinese, Spanish, and 
> maybe one other as well. I don't know how possible any of this is. But I 
> just really want to try it, rather or not it works out.
> 
> 
> I want an App where the learning is done through interaction. Not just 
> studying, or trying to do a lot of memorizing.
> 
> Also, I don't mind purchasing an App. Or paying to learn the languages. 
> But I would like the App to be quite accessible, and easy to use, if 
> possible.
> 
> 
> What do you all think? Does what I am looking for, even exist?
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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Re: Looking for accessible language learning Apps

[CHELA Robles]

Hello Mark,
That is not the case with Duolingo. There aren’t any photos they display the 
words both in English and the language that you’re learning say English in 
Spanish for example and you have to match the Spanish word with the English 
word no pictures involved there are tabs per options and when I mean tap the 
pairs, you just double tap like you would since you’re using voiceover. When 
you’ve gotten it all correct you’ll hear a little chime telling you that it’s 
done and that you’ve successfully matched each foreign word with English for 
example. I have never tried Pimsleur before I mean I’ve heard their audio tapes 
but that was way back in the day lol! Didn’t know they had an app and as for 
dual lingo plus which is the subscription the cheapest one is $9.99 a month.

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> On Mar 10, 2022, at 7:22 PM, Dave Clement  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> This is not the way the current app works. I haven't encountered any such 
> questions in the over 60 lessons I've done so far. Give it a try and see. 
> 
> Dave Clement
> Winnipeg MB
> 
> 
> On Mar 10, 2022, at 9:17 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Dave, Chela, et al:
> 
> The last time I explored Duo Lingo, there were a great deal of photos that 
> one had to name in order to begin the learning process.  
> 
> For example, in order to practice vocabulary, the app would display a grid of 
> photos, and the student had to match a word with the photo.  Is this no 
> longer a problem?  
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
> Clement
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 6:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Looking for accessible language learning Apps
> 
> Hello, 
> 
> I am currently using the Duo Lingo app to study some French. I find it 
> totally accessible so far. The app does have a subscription version that will 
> remove ads and some other usage limits but I am not certain of the cost as I 
> am just working with the free part of the app. The app does have some "listen 
> and speak" capabilities along with introducing reading, writing, and grammar. 
> It is fun and effective. 
> 
> I have also used the Pimsleur language learning app. This app teaches 
> conversational languages and does not get into reading and writing and 
> grammar very much. It is an audio based system, listen and repeat. It is a 
> subscription app asking $18.xx per month for a 3-language option or $25 per 
> month cost for full access to all 51 languages they support. I have found the 
> app fully accessible so far and I have used the Pimsleur courses in the past 
> to pick up a basic intro to languages for foreign countries that I have 
> visited. For me, this system has been very successful. 
> 
> Good luck learning a language and have fun with it. 
> 
> Dave Clement
> Winnipeg MB
> 
> 
> On Mar 10, 2022, at 6:37 PM, CHELA Robles <mailto:cdrobles...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> Try Duolingo you can use it on the web duolingo.com or on the appstore you 
> can find it and it's very accessible and has the languages you are interested 
> in. I love the app and I use it on a regular basis it’s like playing a game 
> except you’re learning a lot.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Mar 10, 2022, at 3:21 PM, May Anderson <mailto:m...@canadianlynx.ca> wrote:
> Oo, I would like this information as well.
> 
> May, LD Wren and the little humans, Jay and Kal
> On Mar 10, 2022, at 6:12 PM, Terri Stimmel 
> <mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I can't remember if this was recently asked here, or not. If so, I do 
> apologize. I know I saw similar questions somewhere.
> 
> 
> Anyway, I am looking for an accessible App, to help me possibly learn a new 
> language. I am most interested in learning Chinese, Spanish, and maybe one 
> other as well. I don't know how possible any of this is. But I just really 
> want to try it, rather or not it works out.
> 
> 
> I want an App where the learning is done through interaction. Not just 
> studying, or trying to do a lot of memorizing.
> 
> Also, I don't mind purchasing an App. Or paying to learn the languages. But I 
> would like the App to be quite accessible, and easy to use, if possible.
> 
> 
> What do you all think? Does what I am looking for, even exist?
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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Re: Looking for accessible language learning Apps

[CHELA Robles]

Try Duolingo you can use it on the web duolingo.com or on the appstore you can 
find it and it's very accessible and has the languages you are interested in. I 
love the app and I use it on a regular basis it’s like playing a game except 
you’re learning a lot.

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> On Mar 10, 2022, at 3:21 PM, May Anderson  wrote:
> 
> Oo, I would like this information as well.
> 
> May, LD Wren and the little humans, Jay and Kal
>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 6:12 PM, Terri Stimmel  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> 
>> I can't remember if this was recently asked here, or not. If so, I do 
>> apologize. I know I saw similar questions somewhere.
>> 
>> 
>> Anyway, I am looking for an accessible App, to help me possibly learn a new 
>> language. I am most interested in learning Chinese, Spanish, and maybe one 
>> other as well. I don't know how possible any of this is. But I just really 
>> want to try it, rather or not it works out.
>> 
>> 
>> I want an App where the learning is done through interaction. Not just 
>> studying, or trying to do a lot of memorizing.
>> 
>> Also, I don't mind purchasing an App. Or paying to learn the languages. But 
>> I would like the App to be quite accessible, and easy to use, if possible.
>> 
>> 
>> What do you all think? Does what I am looking for, even exist?
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> 
>> Terri
>> 
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Re: Help, problem getting back to original caller, when I put one on Hold and Accept to take a second call.

[CHELA Robles]

Fascinating thanks for the information I appreciate it I will definitely flag 
this thread and put it under my important messages. Just for future reference.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 7, 2022, at 9:19 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, actually, it says Merge call, and it is in about the same place where 
> Add is, when initiating another call. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, March 7, 2022 11:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Help, problem getting back to original caller, when I put one on 
> Hold and Accept to take a second call.
> 
> Hi Chela,
> 
> It is relatively easy to do this.
> 
> 
> 
> Call the first person.
> 
> Ask them to hold.
> 
> Touch the end call button, but do not double tap, flick right once and you 
> should land on the Hide Button, which hides the normal number pad.  It is 
> located kind of above the Voice Mail tab but probably easiest to find by 
> flicking.
> 
> 
> 
> Double tap it.
> 
> You now have the following buttons place where 1 through6 would be on the 
> number pad.
> 
> Mute
> 
> Keypad
> 
> Audio which should be selected.
> 
> Add call
> 
> Facetime Video
> 
> Contacts
> 
> 
> 
> Double tap Add call, which puts the first person on hold, and call the other 
> person.
> 
> Then, you will likely have to do the hide button again, and now the Add Call 
> button will say Join calls.
> 
> 
> 
> Repeat that process as much as you have to to get everyone connected.
> 
> 
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
> Robles
> Sent: Monday, March 7, 2022 8:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Help, problem getting back to original caller, when I put one on 
> Hold and Accept to take a second call.
> 
> 
> 
> Speaking of calls, out of my own curiosity and I’m sure this would be helpful 
> someday and I’m just wondering, how does one to conference calls on iPhone?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>On Mar 7, 2022, at 8:10 AM, Richard Turner  <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:
> 
>
> 
>IN the lower righthand portion of the screen, there should be a Hide 
> button.
> 
>Double tap that.
> 
>Then, there will be six buttons roughly where 1 through 6 would have been 
> on the number pad.
> 
>One of them should be swap or return to call, or something like that.
> 
>There also might be an icon in the very top lefthand corner of the status 
> bar to return to that call, I don’t hardly ever have this happen so I’m not 
> sure.
> 
>.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>Richard
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> 
> 
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
>Sent: Monday, March 7, 2022 8:01 AM
>To: viPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
>Subject: Help, problem getting back to original caller, when I put one on 
> Hold and Accept to take a second call.
> 
> 
> 
>What is it that I do, please, to get back to an original caller, when I 
> put the original call on Hold and Accept in order to take a second call? 
> 
> 
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Re: Help, problem getting back to original caller, when I put one on Hold and Accept to take a second call.

[CHELA Robles]

Speaking of calls, out of my own curiosity and I’m sure this would be helpful 
someday and I’m just wondering, how does one to conference calls on iPhone?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 7, 2022, at 8:10 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> IN the lower righthand portion of the screen, there should be a Hide button.
> Double tap that.
> Then, there will be six buttons roughly where 1 through 6 would have been on 
> the number pad.
> One of them should be swap or return to call, or something like that.
> There also might be an icon in the very top lefthand corner of the status bar 
> to return to that call, I don’t hardly ever have this happen so I’m not sure.
> .
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
> Sent: Monday, March 7, 2022 8:01 AM
> To: viPhone 
> Subject: Help, problem getting back to original caller, when I put one on 
> Hold and Accept to take a second call.
>  
> What is it that I do, please, to get back to an original caller, when I put 
> the original call on Hold and Accept in order to take a second call?
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Re: Battery pack for the SE 2020

[CHELA Robles]

Sorry to hear that you had those issues with the prior version but this upgrade 
is much more significant. So far I’m not having any issues with the current set 
of beeps vibrations and or both being accurate and no swollen anything here no 
overheating it’s just perfect. And thank you to Dennis for telling me what the 
ports were. Have a great day.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 18, 2022, at 4:36 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> `I am glad they did make an upgraded version.  I might purchase one.
> 
>> On 1/18/22, Dennis Long  wrote:
>> I got the 2 one yes.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:22 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Battery pack for the SE 2020
>> 
>> Did you get the 2 MA one from AT guys?
>> 
>>> On 1/18/22, Dennis Long  wrote:
>>> The far right is a micro USB port to charge the battery.  Directly to
>>> the left of that is the fast charging port for your iPhone or android.
>>> Note you will need a cable that does fast charging.  The one as far
>>> left as you can go is the USB a  port for charging things such as
>>> headphones.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> CHELA Robles
>>> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 9:33 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Battery pack for the SE 2020
>>> 
>>> Hey guys I just got my accessible power bank the 20 mA one and it’s
>>> charging right now when it came to me it was 50% charged so it
>>> shouldn’t take long I just don’t know where the manual is I think they
>>> said it was online somewhere now I got a find it. There are three
>>> ports and I’m trying to figure out which one is the smallest it’s on
>>> the right near the power button anybody that already has this and let
>>> me know let me know thanks I already figured out what the other two
>>> ports were the one in the middle is the USB-C port and then the one on
>>> the left going away from the power button is the USB port but this one
>>> looks like smaller on the right side it could either be a lightning or
>>> a micro USB port but I’m not sure it’s near the power button I
>>> actually like this model upgrade way better than the VS 150 in the
>>> original AppleVis review when energrid came out. Definitely much
>>> improved the button is on the side versus on top I like it. Very happy
>>> with my purchase. Well worth the money. I’m sure the 10 mA one is similar
>>> to this model now in the layout of everything as well.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 16, 2022, at 5:31 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have a gin foxi ma5000 smart battery pack I like very much. It
>>>> will charge via lightning cable or using a magnetic charging pad.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>>> Of Daniel MacDonald
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 4:41 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Battery pack for the SE 2020
>>>> 
>>>> I bought a anker  Battwery Pack on Amazon for forty dollars. 3
>>>> mili amp hours. It’s a good big battery pack. It comes with a case too.
>>>> regards,
>>>> Daniel
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 15, 2022, at 4:58 PM, Many of us  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> does it cover the phone, or does the battery pack plug into the
>>>>> phone, and not cover it?
>>>>> shirley
>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Kelly Pierce"
>>>>> 
>>>>> To: 
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2022 8:56 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Battery pack for the SE 2020
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> My suggestion for an iPhone battery bank is the Poweradd Slim 2 for
>>>>>> $11.  It can recharge a regular iPhone 1.5 to 2 times before it
>>>>>> needs recharging. The battery is the size of two cigarette lighters
>>>>>> and fits into most pockets.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kelly
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 1/15/22, Many of us  wrote:
>>>>>>>> Does anyone know how much a battery juice pack costs for the SE

Re: Battery pack for the SE 2020

[CHELA Robles]

OK I just read the manual seems pretty self-explanatory I think what I was 
referring to when I saw some little knob on the side of where the power button 
is from that power button not on the same side but near the other ports it 
looks to be just some sort of logo of something or other but I do like how 
sleek it looks. it's now fully charged for when I'm out and about next time.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 17, 2022, at 6:32 PM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys I just got my accessible power bank the 20 mA one and it’s charging 
> right now when it came to me it was 50% charged so it shouldn’t take long I 
> just don’t know where the manual is I think they said it was online somewhere 
> now I got a find it. There are three ports and I’m trying to figure out which 
> one is the smallest it’s on the right near the power button anybody that 
> already has this and let me know let me know thanks I already figured out 
> what the other two ports were the one in the middle is the USB-C port and 
> then the one on the left going away from the power button is the USB port but 
> this one looks like smaller on the right side it could either be a lightning 
> or a micro USB port but I’m not sure it’s near the power button I actually 
> like this model upgrade way better than the VS 150 in the original AppleVis 
> review when energrid came out. Definitely much improved the button is on the 
> side versus on top I like it. Very happy with my purchase. Well worth the 
> money. I’m sure the 10 mA one is similar to this model now in the layout of 
> everything as well.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 16, 2022, at 5:31 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
>> 
>> I have a gin foxi ma5000 smart battery pack I like very much. It will 
>> charge via lightning cable or using a magnetic charging pad.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Daniel MacDonald
>> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 4:41 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Battery pack for the SE 2020
>> 
>> I bought a anker  Battwery Pack on Amazon for forty dollars. 3 mili amp 
>> hours. It’s a good big battery pack. It comes with a case too.
>> regards,
>> Daniel
>> 
>>>> On Jan 15, 2022, at 4:58 PM, Many of us  wrote:
>>> 
>>> does it cover the phone, or does the battery pack plug into the phone, and 
>>> not cover it?
>>> shirley
>>> - Original Message - From: "Kelly Pierce" 
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2022 8:56 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Battery pack for the SE 2020
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> My suggestion for an iPhone battery bank is the Poweradd Slim 2 for 
>>>> $11.  It can recharge a regular iPhone 1.5 to 2 times before it needs 
>>>> recharging. The battery is the size of two cigarette lighters and 
>>>> fits into most pockets.
>>>> 
>>>> Kelly
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1/15/22, Many of us  wrote:
>>>>>> Does anyone know how much a battery juice pack costs for the SE 
>>>>>> 2020? I need a good quality one, as I will be traveling in may and 
>>>>>> need to have my phone last for more than 15 hours.
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>> shirley
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Re: Battery pack for the SE 2020

[CHELA Robles]

Hey guys I just got my accessible power bank the 20 mA one and it’s charging 
right now when it came to me it was 50% charged so it shouldn’t take long I 
just don’t know where the manual is I think they said it was online somewhere 
now I got a find it. There are three ports and I’m trying to figure out which 
one is the smallest it’s on the right near the power button anybody that 
already has this and let me know let me know thanks I already figured out what 
the other two ports were the one in the middle is the USB-C port and then the 
one on the left going away from the power button is the USB port but this one 
looks like smaller on the right side it could either be a lightning or a micro 
USB port but I’m not sure it’s near the power button I actually like this model 
upgrade way better than the VS 150 in the original AppleVis review when 
energrid came out. Definitely much improved the button is on the side versus on 
top I like it. Very happy with my purchase. Well worth the money. I’m sure the 
10 mA one is similar to this model now in the layout of everything as well.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 16, 2022, at 5:31 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
> 
> I have a gin foxi ma5000 smart battery pack I like very much. It will charge 
> via lightning cable or using a magnetic charging pad.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Daniel 
> MacDonald
> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 4:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery pack for the SE 2020
> 
> I bought a anker  Battwery Pack on Amazon for forty dollars. 3 mili amp 
> hours. It’s a good big battery pack. It comes with a case too.
> regards,
> Daniel
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2022, at 4:58 PM, Many of us  wrote:
>> 
>> does it cover the phone, or does the battery pack plug into the phone, and 
>> not cover it?
>> shirley
>> - Original Message - From: "Kelly Pierce" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2022 8:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: Battery pack for the SE 2020
>> 
>> 
>>> My suggestion for an iPhone battery bank is the Poweradd Slim 2 for 
>>> $11.  It can recharge a regular iPhone 1.5 to 2 times before it needs 
>>> recharging. The battery is the size of two cigarette lighters and 
>>> fits into most pockets.
>>> 
>>> Kelly
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> On 1/15/22, Many of us  wrote:
> Does anyone know how much a battery juice pack costs for the SE 
> 2020? I need a good quality one, as I will be traveling in may and 
> need to have my phone last for more than 15 hours.
> thanks
> shirley
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Re: Battery pack for the SE 2020

[CHELA Robles]

Well, if I don't hear anything from them regarding my order, I'll email 
energrid to see what is going on, I'll give it until the 22nd and if they don't 
respond, I'll ask for my money back and get it from ATGuys instead. I thought 
getting it from the manufacturer would be just as good but we shall see.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 15, 2022, at 9:29 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> 
> At guys also has it.
> Accessible Portable Charger & Power Bank, , 20,000mAh Battery with Vibration 
> & Sound,, New Model : A. T. Guys, Your Access Technology Experts (atguys.com)
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
> Robles
> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2022 5:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery pack for the SE 2020
>  
> There's the Energrid Power bank.
> They have two models I bought the 20 MAH
> 
>  
> https://accessibility.energrid.us.com/ 
> I haven’t received mine yet though even though I ordered it on 6 January they 
> did say it would be like 14 days. To get it so we’ll see. Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Jan 15, 2022, at 1:46 PM, Flor Lynch  wrote:
> 
> It's a pity that these battery banks don't emit an audible tone or 
> vibro-tactile indication when they are running low themselves. (I'd like to 
> find one that does? In the manner that a hearing aid does when the battery in 
> it is about to die. This would solve our problem with not knowing its current 
> unaided power status.)
> 
> 
> On 15/01/2022 21:28, Kelly Pierce wrote:
> 
> It plugs into the phone.
>  
> Kelly
>  
>  
> On 1/15/22, Many of us  wrote:
> does it cover the phone, or does the battery pack plug into the phone, and
> not cover it?
> shirley
> - Original Message -
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>  
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> My suggestion for an iPhone battery bank is the Poweradd Slim 2 for
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> need
> a good quality one, as I will be traveling in may and need to have my
> phone
> last for more than 15 hours.
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Re: Battery pack for the SE 2020

[CHELA Robles]

There's the Energrid Power bank.
They have two models I bought the 20 MAH


https://accessibility.energrid.us.com/ 
I haven’t received mine yet though even though I ordered it on 6 January they 
did say it would be like 14 days. To get it so we’ll see. Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 15, 2022, at 1:46 PM, Flor Lynch  wrote:
> 
> It's a pity that these battery banks don't emit an audible tone or 
> vibro-tactile indication when they are running low themselves. (I'd like to 
> find one that does? In the manner that a hearing aid does when the battery in 
> it is about to die. This would solve our problem with not knowing its current 
> unaided power status.)
> 
> 
>> On 15/01/2022 21:28, Kelly Pierce wrote:
>> It plugs into the phone.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1/15/22, Many of us  wrote:
>>> does it cover the phone, or does the battery pack plug into the phone, and
>>> not cover it?
>>> shirley
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Kelly Pierce" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2022 8:56 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Battery pack for the SE 2020
>>> 
>>> 
 My suggestion for an iPhone battery bank is the Poweradd Slim 2 for
 $11.  It can recharge a regular iPhone 1.5 to 2 times before it needs
 recharging. The battery is the size of two cigarette lighters and fits
 into most pockets.
 
 Kelly
 
 
 
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> Does anyone know how much a battery juice pack costs for the SE 2020? I
> need
> a good quality one, as I will be traveling in may and need to have my
> phone
> last for more than 15 hours.
> thanks
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Re: 7 little words has been improved

[CHELA Robles]

Thank you so much I’ll give that a try I didn’t see it in my updates today. 
Very interesting.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 12, 2022, at 4:33 PM, Dan  wrote:
> 
> 
> I noticed an update to 7 little words today and installed it. I rebooted my 
> phone and tried it out.  It is very much more responsive and easy to play 
> using VO.
> 
> 
> 
> Just thought some might want to know since I hadn't seen this mentioned 
> lately.
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Re: my upgrade experience

[CHELA Robles]

Well I hope you enjoy your new phones! What a process! Great deal though. I 
still have my iPhone 8 Plus and I’m lucky that it actually runs 15.2.1 as of 
today.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 12, 2022, at 3:53 PM, vcollins5...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> This message may run a bit long, but I’m not really asking any questions 
> here. Rather, I’m just making several observations about the process of 
> upgrading my iPhones.
>  
> My reason for upgrading: I believe I mentioned before that, while I did 
> indeed have some newer iPhones, I was using my older first generation iPhone 
> SE and my iPhone 7 as my primary phones, intending to run them to see just 
> how long they would last before their batteries finally died. However, when 
> the Walmart delivery from store came to my area, including delivering 
> perishable groceries, I was very pleased. Thus, when Walmart had their Black 
> Friday promotion where they offered the E-gift cards if one upgraded their 
> phone, I jumped at the chance to do so. True, one had to sign on with a 
> carrier and choose one of their unlimited data plans and pay a $30 upgrade 
> fee per line, but I already was on an unlimited plan with AT, anyway, so 
> that wasn’t a problem for me. And while I had to enter into the installment 
> agreement, the AT terms and conditions did say that I could pay off the 
> installment agreement at any time.
>  
> The upgrade process: it was actually pretty straightforward. I started my 
> purchase in the Walmart iPhone app, but then was directed to the Walmart 
> website to finish things after I selected the phone and carrier I wanted. 
> There were several screens of terms and conditions I had to go through, and 
> then the phone got added to my cart and I could check out. I actually ordered 
> one phone on November 22, and then I ordered the second one on November 25 
> right after I received the first phone. Yes, believe it or not, FedEx 
> actually delivered that phone to me on Thanksgiving Day.
>  
> Activating the phones: I was told when I ordered the phones that they would 
> be coming with a SIM card, but since I didn’t recognize the type of SIM card 
> they mentioned, I wasn’t sure if the phones were coming with an E-sim or 
> regular one. But when I tried to activate one of the phones and was told that 
> it needed a SIM card in order to be activated, I took the SIM out of one of 
> the phones I was then using and put it in the new phone and activated it, and 
> then I did the same thing when activating the other phone. And wouldn’t you 
> know it, it was only after both phones were activated that I thought to take 
> one more look in the box. And, sure enough, I found a SIM card for each phone 
> in its respective box.
>  
> Since one of the conditions for getting the gift cards was that the phones be 
> activated, I wanted to make sure that they were activated with their correct 
> SIM cards. This was especially true when I checked in the settings for one of 
> my new phones and there was no 5G option, which didn’t really surprise me as 
> this SIM card came with the AT iPhone 6S plus I purchased from Apple in 
> 2015. So I went online and was able to activate the SIM card for one of the 
> phones, the one that originally had the old 2015 SIM in it. However, I had 
> put a SIM card in the other phone that I had obtained in August of 2019, and 
> I’m guessing since it already showed the 5G when put in the new phone, that’s 
> why I was told the phone was already activated. Thus, I had to call AT to 
> get the phone to work properly with the new SIM card, as it just said 
> cellular no signal when I put that new card in the phone until I called.
>  
> Transferring the data from my old phones: that actually went well using the 
> quick start feature or whatever it is called and just transferring from one 
> iPhone to the other. You might recall, though, that my only internet here is 
> provided by my cell phones, thus I quickly learned that I couldn’t use the 
> hotspot feature on the phone which I was transferring the data from to get it 
> to the new phone, so I had to remove the SIM from one older phone and put it 
> in another older phone to get the process to work.
>  
> No home button and Face ID: as of right now, I think I am better with the 
> gestures that replaced the home button than I am with Face ID. Also, to me 
> right now, using the home button just seems so much faster than using the 
> Face ID. In the daytime, though, Face ID does seem to work for me about 80% 
> of the time, while it works much less than that at night when I’m in bed and 
> reach for my phone.
>  
> Using the internet and personal hotspot: this does seem a lot faster to me. I 
> couldn’t believe how fast apps downloaded from the app store, for example. 
> Web pages seem to load faster as well. And I just love being able to back up 
> my phone using cellular data as well as being able to update the iOS without 
> having to put my SIM in an Android 

Re: accessible battery pack

[CHELA Robles]

Just wanted to let you all know that I successfully purchased this power bank 
just now using jaws 2022 on a Windows 11 Dell Inspiron 15 5510 laptop using 
Microsoft edge successfully even though the cart button is still unlabeled I 
was able to do it within less than five minutes and I used the PayPal button to 
check out faster. Just got an email confirmation saying that my order has been 
placed for $105 since it is only ground shipping which is six dollars since the 
battery pack is only $99 not bad worth it in my opinion shouldn’t take long 
since they’re shipping from San Jose and I live in Concord California. Fun fact 
is that I used to work near where they’re located.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 28, 2021, at 4:28 PM, blazie.g...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Could they be closed for the holidays?  Lots of places do that nowadays.
>  
> Vivian and Sallie
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> ms.sunflowe...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 3:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: accessible battery pack
>  
> I would be interested to know your results.
> I am a bit hesitant to do business with a company that I have issues 
> contacting.  Even the tech support hung up on me when I tried calling.  That 
> can’t be a good business practice.
> Thanks!
> Tammy
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 4:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: accessible battery pack
>  
> Tamy on that check out page there is an option to check out with paypal.  I 
> also ran into that error.  I wonder if checking out wit PayPal would fix it.  
> I did email them about the address issue and will see what they say.  Tempted 
> to use PayPal and see if it fixes it.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> ms.sunflowe...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 5:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: accessible battery pack
>  
> You can get to the shopping cart by looking for the button that says “1”.  
> After that you will find a link to check out.  I just tried having this item 
> sent to 2 different states and was told that they can not deliver to these 
> addresses.  Interesting!  Everything else has found its way to my mail box.  
> Very strange!
> Tammy
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 3:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: accessible battery pack
>  
> Energrid VS820PD 20,000mAh Power Bank – Energrid Accessibility
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Re: My First Experience with Apple Fitness Plus via Apple Watch

[CHELA Robles]

It’s kind of like a podcast except it’s not a podcast it’s where athletes and 
musicians and activists talk about something and they walk as well it’s in the 
fitness app under the heading time to walk some of them are 30 minutes long 
some of them are 40 minutes long. It’s like walking and talking with a friend 
or listening to somebody talk as you walk and of course they have their 
favorite music as well.

Sent it makes walking fun for me at least. from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2022, at 4:08 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> 
> What is the time to walk series?
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
> 
> The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they can be 
> great in whatever they want to do.
> Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "CHELA Robles" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2022 8:32 PM
> Subject: Re: My First Experience with Apple Fitness Plus via Apple Watch
> 
> 
> Hey you might want to try the time to walk series. That's pretty accessible 
> as well. I like it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 2, 2022, at 5:25 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> So, along with my purchase of Apple Watch 7 came a free, three-month trial
>> subscription to Apple Fitness Plus.
>> 
>> I decided to give it a try.
>> 
>> As far as I can tell, my experience via watch 7 will also work on watch 4.
>> 
>> As for the accessibility of the Fitness Plus, workouts, themselves, I have
>> not yet explored.  However, I did try a few of the focus / meditation
>> sessions on my Apple TV, iPad, and iPhone and found that sight is not a
>> requirement in order to participate.  I discovered that one can use the
>> Apple watch to control these sessions on the TV, iPad and / or iPhone. 
>> Not
>> bad.  However, I wanted to take it one step further by determining if one
>> could run a session on the Apple Watch, itself, without using the TV, 
>> iPad,
>> or iPhone.
>> 
>> I was surprised to learnt that the answer is yes.  This makes sense, given
>> that the meditation / focus sessions strongly suggest that you participate
>> with your eyes, closed.
>> 
>> There are too many variables to account for in this post however I will 
>> tell
>> you that, though not required, you can use your phone to download a 
>> workout
>> / meditation session to your iCloud library and then onto your various
>> devices, including the watch.
>> 
>> Make certain that your AirPods are connected to the watch, then you can
>> completely control and participate in the medication sessions via the
>> Mindfulness app, on the watch, itself, without a TV, iPad or iPhone.
>> 
>> I will continue to explore Fitness Plus and hopefully discover that there 
>> is
>> more that we, as blind or low vision people, can use in Apple Fitness 
>> Plus.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: My First Experience with Apple Fitness Plus via Apple Watch

[CHELA Robles]

Hey you might want to try the time to walk series. That’s pretty accessible as 
well. I like it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 2, 2022, at 5:25 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> So, along with my purchase of Apple Watch 7 came a free, three-month trial
> subscription to Apple Fitness Plus.
> 
> I decided to give it a try.
> 
> As far as I can tell, my experience via watch 7 will also work on watch 4.
> 
> As for the accessibility of the Fitness Plus, workouts, themselves, I have
> not yet explored.  However, I did try a few of the focus / meditation
> sessions on my Apple TV, iPad, and iPhone and found that sight is not a
> requirement in order to participate.  I discovered that one can use the
> Apple watch to control these sessions on the TV, iPad and / or iPhone.  Not
> bad.  However, I wanted to take it one step further by determining if one
> could run a session on the Apple Watch, itself, without using the TV, iPad,
> or iPhone.
> 
> I was surprised to learnt that the answer is yes.  This makes sense, given
> that the meditation / focus sessions strongly suggest that you participate
> with your eyes, closed.
> 
> There are too many variables to account for in this post however I will tell
> you that, though not required, you can use your phone to download a workout
> / meditation session to your iCloud library and then onto your various
> devices, including the watch.
> 
> Make certain that your AirPods are connected to the watch, then you can
> completely control and participate in the medication sessions via the
> Mindfulness app, on the watch, itself, without a TV, iPad or iPhone.
> 
> I will continue to explore Fitness Plus and hopefully discover that there is
> more that we, as blind or low vision people, can use in Apple Fitness Plus.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: Transferring from audio to facetime call?

[CHELA Robles]

Good to know, thanks for the tip.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 10:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Yes, you can, just bring up the screen and hide the keypad if it is on the 
> screen, then on the same screen where you have the hold button, the 
> speakerphone button, the button if you want to add another caller and so on
> find the "Facetime Video" button and tap it. There might be a very small 
> disruption, but basically what happens is that while you are still speaking 
> to the other person they are being notified that you are requesting a 
> Facetime call and they can accept it at which point the regular call ends and 
> the Facetime Video call starts; it's quite seamless and I have done it many 
> times with family and friends.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
> Robles
> Sent: December 31, 2021 5:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Transferring from audio to facetime call?
> 
> My understanding is that the only way to do this is if you do an audio 
> FaceTime call and then can switch to a regular video FaceTime call within the 
> FaceTime app not the Phone app which is what it sounds like you’re using.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
>>> 
>>> When I am talking on the phone with someone and want to switch to 
>>> facetime, do I have to disconnect the phone call in order to activate 
>>> facetime??
>>> At 05:48 PM 12/31/2021, you wrote:
>>> Ann,
>>> 
>>> Are you referring to a FaceTime audio call or one through the 
>>> switched telephone network?
>>> 
>>> Kelly
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/31/21, Ann Byrne  wrote:
>>>> Is there a way to transfer from an audio call to a facetime call 
>>>> without disconnecting and calling back?  I think I have seen it 
>>>> done, but maybe not.
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Re: Transferring from audio to facetime call?

[CHELA Robles]

My understanding is that the only way to do this is if you do an audio FaceTime 
call and then can switch to a regular video FaceTime call within the FaceTime 
app not the Phone app which is what it sounds like you’re using.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
> When I am talking on the phone with someone and want to switch to facetime, 
> do I have to disconnect the phone call in order to activate facetime??
> At 05:48 PM 12/31/2021, you wrote:
>> Ann,
>> 
>> Are you referring to a FaceTime audio call or one through the switched
>> telephone network?
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/31/21, Ann Byrne  wrote:
>> > Is there a way to transfer from an audio call to a facetime call
>> > without disconnecting and calling back?  I think I have seen it done,
>> > but maybe not.
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Re: Apple Sends Me Message in French, FW: App Lacak telah dinonaktifkan pada Muhammad’s iPhone

[CHELA Robles]

Did you accidentally set your region language to French? That’s the only thing 
I can think of. You can reset that just search for a region language or 
something to the effect of that and you should be able to reset the language to 
English.
So basically what you want to go do is go to settings general

Then scroll down and tap or double tap in our case language and region, double 
tap device language, here you will see a list of languages select English and 
then confirm it and then all should be good. Good luck let us know how it goes. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 9:42 AM, doug parisian  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well gosh darn, you must be Canadian too. I get all messages in both French 
> and English from amazon.
> 
> At least they don't assume that all Canadians say "good day eh."
> 
> 
> 
> On 2021-12-31 7:05 a.m., Fazil M. wrote:
>> Hi, Group.
>> I don’t know why, Apple started sending me messages in French only.
>> I called Apple Accessibility yesterday. They wanted me go to icloud.com and 
>> to account setting. Selected language in Account Settings was English. She 
>> said I don’t know why this is happening when English is selected in Account 
>> settings.
>> Could someone tell me how to fix it, please?
>> Secondly,
>> What is the following French message is about, please? Anything important in 
>> it that I need to know?
>> Thanks!
>>  
>> From: Find My  
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2021 10:29 PM
>> To: mfa...@outlook.com
>> Subject: App Lacak telah dinonaktifkan pada Muhammad’s iPhone
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> App Lacak telah dinonaktifkan pada Muhammad’s iPhone
>> Jika app Lacak dinonaktifkan, perangkat ini tidak lagi dapat ditemukan, 
>> mengaktifkan Mode Hilang, atau menghapus konten dari jarak jauh menggunakan 
>> icloud.com/find atau app Lacak.
>> Selain itu, ID Apple dan kata sandi Anda tidak akan lagi diperlukan oleh 
>> seseorang untuk menghapus, mengaktifkan kembali, dan menggunakan iPhone Anda.
>> 
>> iCloud merupakan layanan yang disediakan Apple. 
>> ID Apple | Dukungan | Syarat dan Ketentuan | Kebijakan Privasi 
>> Hak Cipta © 2021 Apple Canada Inc., 120 Bremner Blvd., suite 1600, Toronto 
>> ON M5J 0A8, Canada. Hak cipta dilindungi undang‑undang.
>> 
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Re: accessible battery pack

[CHELA Robles]

Even though I have an offbrand one, I will get this one sometime in January. 
The offbrand one has a screen in the middle and it’s easily legible. It can 
charge three devices so I’ll keep that but I will keep the other one that I 
want to buy in January this one that you speak of, as a back up always good to 
have a back up. One non-accessible one and one accessible one. When Nguyen 
50-50 thanks for letting us know about this one I thought they were out of 
business. And it turns out I used to work in San Jose so that’s really cool 
that they’re local to. Again many thanks. I have saved the website in my 
bookmarks.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 28, 2021, at 10:38 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> Dennis, Although I add my affirmation concerning this charger, I also add an 
> update. I went to the link and tried to purchase the charger just now. (It's 
> shortly after 1pm Eastern time. I was able to add it to my cart, but could 
> find no place on the page to check out and purchase the product. I called the 
> 800 number twice just to be sure. The first time, I pressed two to place an 
> order, and a friendly voice said goodbye and hung up. The second time, I 
> pressed 3 for customer service, and the same friendly voice said goodbye and 
> hung up. All of this begs the question, how do we actually order the charger 
> when we can't check out, or speak to someone to guide us through the ordering 
> process? Any help with this will be greatly appreciated. I'd like to have one 
> of these accessible chargers.
> 
>  
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2021, at 1:26 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Dennis, that looks like a great charger.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> “One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin
>>  
>> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Dennis Long
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 9:36 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: accessible battery pack
>>  
>> If you click the link it will take you there.  This looks like the one  they 
>> came out a few years ago but better.  It supports fast charging etc.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey 
>> Wollner
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 12:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: accessible battery pack
>>  
>> Hi is the accessible and can you give us anymore information about this 
>> power bank?
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Dennis Long
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 3:52 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: accessible battery pack
>>  
>> Energrid VS820PD 20,000mAh Power Bank – Energrid Accessibility
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Re: Extremely Rapid Battery Drain on AirPods Pro, within the last Two Weeks, Why?

[CHELA Robles]

I too, own a pair of AirPods Pro and an iPhone 8 Plus running iOS 15.2 however 
I do not experience this issue you’re having but then again I recently 
purchased the AirPods along with Apple care. Check with Apple.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 22, 2021, at 6:50 AM, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> The same thing has been happening with mine, and it's only been a couple of 
> weeks. I did check and the case appears to be clean. They're charging fine, 
> they just aren't holding a charge like they use too, I was silly and didn't 
> purchase apple care, and the funny thing is, this started happening with mine 
> shortly after the warranty expired.
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
> Facer
> Sent: December 22, 2021 10:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Extremely Rapid Battery Drain on AirPods Pro, within the last 
> Two Weeks, Why?
> 
> Have you tried cleaning the case? I mean by making sure nothing has got down 
> in the case where they connect magnetically? I have had this happen before, 
> and i had to make sure that no ear wax or dirt had made it down there. If you 
> are totally sure that that is not the case, then I would make a quick call to 
> Apple to see if they can help you. If you purchased Apple Care with them, you 
> should have no problems getting them serviced or even replaced. Those are 
> just my thoughts?
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2021, at 6:25 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I purchased my AirPods Pro last December.  Since then, I have had 
>> nothing but excellent service from them, including standby battery life.
>> 
>> However, and I'm not certain when this happened, within the last two 
>> weeks to be sure, all of a sudden, almost every time I go to use my 
>> AirPods Pro, when out-and-about, I find that they are completely 
>> drained of battery life even though I have not used them since charging, a 
>> day or 2 prior.
>> 
>> I have performed all of the Apple-recommended procedures including 
>> resetting the battery case, and removing the set from my account.  
>> Nothing seems to help.
>> 
>> Last night, I had a friend come over with her AirPods Pro and we made 
>> certain to charge them both to 100%.  Then, we simply let each set sit 
>> on a table for about 20 minutes, essentially in standby mode.  It 
>> should be noted that the AirPods were not actively connected to either of 
>> our iPhones.
>> 
>> She has iPhone 11 and I have my beloved 8 Plus; however we were both 
>> running the same version of iOS.
>> 
>> When we checked the battery status on both units, hers was virtually 
>> the same as it was just after charging while my battery case had lost 
>> 10% of it's battery life; also, both of my AirPods Pro earpieces 
>> seemed to be sucking up the proverbial juice, even faster.
>> 
>> Again, leaving the units on the table, after checking battery life, 2 
>> more times at 20 minute intervals, it was clear that my set was losing 
>> battery power almost three times more rapidly than her set.
>> 
>> So, as my AirPods Pro are covered by Apple Care Plus, I will take them 
>> into the store and see what they have to say.
>> 
>> I canvased a few other acquaintances (about 5 people in all) on this 
>> issue they, too, are all experiencing  the same rapid battery loss on 
>> their AirPods Pro sets.
>> 
>> If anyone has any ideas on how to resolve this seemingly 
>> out-of-the-blue problem, by all means, chime in.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: Question of the Week: What is your Favorite Apple product and Why?

[CHELA Robles]

I have to say I like my Apple Watch fifth generation and I like the fact that I 
can discreetly check the time when I’m out in the public I love the taptic 
feedback. The iPhone is good too but I like my Apple Watch as well. My Apple 
AirPods Pro is good too they stay in my ears very well but again my favorite is 
my Apple Watch.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 19, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> Same here: my iPhone SE2020: an all-in-one device especially more with 
> IOS15's "Focus" feature, which has allowed me to see the benefits for using 
> as a multimedia player, aside from Social media, basic Internet browsing, and 
> phone.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
> 
>> El 19 dic 2021, a la(s) 4:55 p.m., blazie.g...@gmail.com escribió:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> My favorite Apple product is my iPhone SE 2020.  Of course, other than Apple 
>> Music, I don't have any other Apple products.
>> 
>> Vivian and Sallie
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
>> Taylor
>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2021 12:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Question of the Week: What is your Favorite Apple product and Why?
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> My favorite Apple product, at the moment, is my Apple watch with the weather 
>> Complication.  
>> 
>> Why?
>> 
>> Because I really enjoy the weather Complication as it allows me to easily 
>> see the temperature, hour-by-hour, via the Digital Crown, for the remainder 
>> of the day.  I find this extremely helpful when determining when to start a 
>> fire, in my fireplace, or when to turn on the furnace.
>> 
>> In the rainy season, using the Digital Crown, I can easily scroll through 
>> the remainder of the day to see the rain forecast, hour-by-hour.
>> 
>> I truly do appreciate all of my Apple products for the independence they 
>> allow me to enjoy; however, at the moment, I would say that Apple watch with 
>> the weather Complication is topping my favorites list.
>> 
>> What is your favorite Apple product and why?
>> 
>> I look forward to your replies,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: Spatial Audio with AirPods, Not So Much

[CHELA Robles]

Hey Mark I wouldn’t do this with audiobooks at all I would do this with music 
that supports spacial audio and also the Dolby Atmos surround sound type of 
movies that support it as well but never audiobooks I tried it too and I hated 
it you’re not alone with regards to the whole spatial audio thing in regards to 
audiobooks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 12, 2021, at 2:30 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> So, in order to pair my new Apple watch series 7 to my beloved 8 Plus, I had
> to update from iOS 14.8 to iOS 15.1.  I did this on Friday.
> 
> Today, while listening to an audiobook on Over Drive via my wired EarPods, I
> decided to take my AirPods Pro for a spin, for the first time, with the
> latest OS.
> 
> Well, as soon as I resumed the Over Drive audio playback via AirPods Pro, I
> noticed a tremendously different type of sound coming through AirPods.  It
> only took me a moment to realize that this must be the new Spatial audio
> feature that I have been reading about.
> 
> I listened for about 10 minutes or so, then enabled the head-tracking
> feature to see how it sounded; not bad, accept... 
> 
> I disabled the spatial audio feature after about 15 minutes of listening.
> 
> I don't know, there was something about it that I just didn't like, with
> regard to audiobook playback, anyway.
> 
> I might like it when I watch a movie on my Apple TV or my iPad; perhaps the
> visual input in combination with spatial audio will make the experience seem
> less jarring, somehow, I don't know.
> 
> For now, however, I think I will continue to use the stereo, only, playback
> option when listening to audiobooks.
> 
> Just thought I would share my first listening experience with spatial audio.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7

[CHELA Robles]

Well I’m glad you like your Apple Watch. I like my Apple Watch first generation 
and I will keep using it as long as the software is able to support the 
hardware and until that day comes where it doesn’t then I will get the next one 
but that will be a long time coming I’m sure. I just like it because it really 
fits me my arms and wrists are kind of small so I like the flexibility of that 
and the fact that I can use a Melanese loop with the series 5.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 11, 2021, at 9:49 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> As you begin to wash your hands, you will hear VoiceOver begin counting down 
> from 20 to 0.  When it reaches zero, you will get hap tic feedback on the 
> watch and the countdown is done.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mohib 
> Anwar Rafay
> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 9:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7
> 
> What does this mode do? Mean do you receive any kind of allert or vibration 
> while washing hands?
> 
>> On 12/12/21, Arlene  wrote:
>> Kay, that is so cute. I too use to think there were people in the 
>> radio too.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Kay Malmquist" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 11:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7
>> 
>> 
>> You laugh about the little man in the watch.  When I was really young 
>> my mom tells me that I got out a screw driver and proceeded to take 
>> apart a radio that they had and when she asked me why, I told her that 
>> I was looking for the little people in there.
>> 
>> Kay Malmquist
>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>> 
>> The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they can 
>> be great in whatever they want to do.
>> Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Richard Turner" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 9:57 AM
>> Subject: RE: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7
>> 
>> 
>> The little guy that lives in the watch can see what your doing ??.
>> 
>> Another answer, it is magic.
>> 
>> The real answer is it uses the sensors in the watch to detect a 
>> specific pattern.  Likely it will get some false positives; like when 
>> it thought I had fallen when I was tossing laundry into the dryer
>> 
>> Later,
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Sunshine is delicious, rain is refreshing, wind braces us up, snow is 
>> exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only 
>> different kinds of good weather." ~ John Ruskin
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Kay Malmquist
>> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 7:57 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7
>> 
>> Well, see what happens when I don't open an app to see how it works?  
>> I'll have to check it out.  How does it know you are washing your 
>> hands and not just using water for something else?
>> 
>> Kay Malmquist
>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>> 
>> The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they can 
>> be great in whatever they want to do.
>> Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "lenron brown" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 9:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7
>> 
>> 
>> you don't find it. you turn it on and when it detects you are washing 
>> your hands it counts down
>> 
>>> On 12/11/21, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
>>> So, I need some input with this app.  Usually, when you want to wash 
>>> your hands, they are dirty.  Dirt from playing in the garden, food 
>>> from mixing a
>>> 
>>> meatloaf and so on.  Did you put the handwashing feature in one of 
>>> your watch faces? Or do you wander through your apps until you find 
>>> it, and then
>>> 
>>> at that point what needs a bath more, you or your watch.  I guess the 
>>> point
>>> 
>>> of this is, What is the easiest way to find this app?
>>> 
>>> Kay Malmquist
>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they 
>>> can be great in whatever they want to do.
>>> Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "M. Taylor" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 12:07 AM
>>> Subject: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> Today, I purchased an Apple watch series 7, cellular.My previous
>>> watch
>>> was the series 4 so this is kind of a big upgrade.
>>> 
>>> I was delighted that I was able to setup my series 7 from a backup of 
>>> my series 4.  As a result, virtually all of my settings were 
>>> transferred to the new watch.
>>> 
>>> So, I decided to give this new hand-washing 

Re: Question about Paramount+ app

[CHELA Robles]

Well I tested out the whole uninstall and reinstall the app like Peter 
suggested and it works so thank you Peter.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 6, 2021, at 4:50 PM, Ken Brown  wrote:
> 
> Chela, if you go into the app and click on more or double tap on more it’ll 
> bring up the account page go into that and at the bottom you’ll see support 
> if you tap on that there is a button that will allow you to send a message to 
> Paramount plus and you can describe your problem. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 6, 2021, at 1:46 PM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>> I am running iOS 15.1 on an iPhone 8 plus lately I have noticed the 
>> Paramount plus app while watching a TV program for example, when I’m in the 
>> middle of the TV program, the audio stops and it backs me out of the app and 
>> onto my home screen landing me back to where my weather widget is so I’m 
>> just wondering am I the only one having this issue seems like it’s crashing 
>> quite a lot. Is there a way to contact the developer to report this issue?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Question about Paramount+ app

[CHELA Robles]

Well I got the typical auto response saying due to high volumes of emails that 
they are not able to respond so I think what I will do is take Peter‘s 
suggestion and uninstall and then reinstall and see what happens. Nonetheless I 
did send an email to the Paramount+ team courtesy of Ken's instructions. We 
shall see what happens.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 6, 2021, at 4:49 PM, Peter Logan  wrote:
> 
> I am having no trouble on an iPhone 13 or an iPad mini five…
> 
> Maybe you should remove and reinstall… That might fix it…
> 
> Sent from my IPhone.
> 
>> On Dec 6, 2021, at 2:46 PM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>> 
>> I am running iOS 15.1 on an iPhone 8 plus lately I have noticed the 
>> Paramount plus app while watching a TV program for example, when I’m in the 
>> middle of the TV program, the audio stops and it backs me out of the app and 
>> onto my home screen landing me back to where my weather widget is so I’m 
>> just wondering am I the only one having this issue seems like it’s crashing 
>> quite a lot. Is there a way to contact the developer to report this issue?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Question about Paramount+ app

[CHELA Robles]

Thank you I just emailed them we’ll see what happens. In response to the other 
person who told me to uninstall and reinstall I’m gonna wait and see what the 
Paramount+ iOS feedback team says first you guys have been extremely helpful.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 6, 2021, at 4:50 PM, Ken Brown  wrote:
> 
> Chela, if you go into the app and click on more or double tap on more it’ll 
> bring up the account page go into that and at the bottom you’ll see support 
> if you tap on that there is a button that will allow you to send a message to 
> Paramount plus and you can describe your problem. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 6, 2021, at 1:46 PM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>> I am running iOS 15.1 on an iPhone 8 plus lately I have noticed the 
>> Paramount plus app while watching a TV program for example, when I’m in the 
>> middle of the TV program, the audio stops and it backs me out of the app and 
>> onto my home screen landing me back to where my weather widget is so I’m 
>> just wondering am I the only one having this issue seems like it’s crashing 
>> quite a lot. Is there a way to contact the developer to report this issue?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Question about Paramount+ app

[CHELA Robles]

I am running iOS 15.1 on an iPhone 8 plus lately I have noticed the Paramount 
plus app while watching a TV program for example, when I’m in the middle of the 
TV program, the audio stops and it backs me out of the app and onto my home 
screen landing me back to where my weather widget is so I’m just wondering am I 
the only one having this issue seems like it’s crashing quite a lot. Is there a 
way to contact the developer to report this issue?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: AirPods Pro and spatial audio

[CHELA Robles]

I always make a habbit when purchasing technology, to also purchase the care 
plan for it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 3, 2021, at 3:39 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> One could look up the terms of Apple Care for the Air Pods to see if like 
> the phone, accidental damage is covered if one wanted to know for sure.
> If indeed, Apple Care was purchased...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
> A Fogarty
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> Subject: RE: AirPods Pro and spatial audio
> 
> How do you know what an acid trip is like? LOL!
> 
> And if you dropped your pods in the wash,
> 
> Dude that's surely not a warrant issue,
> That's a user created issue,
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
> Nalda
> Sent: Saturday, 4 December 2021 4:52 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: AirPods Pro and spatial audio
> 
> First, if you wanna really experience spatial audio, turn your head when 
> streaming talk radio, it’s a bit like an acid trip, I can’t really hear the 
> effect in music, but boy!  Now the bad news, they went through the wash!. 
> They still work, but left one very static filled. Guessing may need to take 
> to Apple, they might be under warranty, as these were a replacement for a 
> previous pair that stopped taking button presses and failed a diagnostic 
> test. 
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Re: Using Whatsapp?

[CHELA Robles]

I use ‎WhatsApp all the time very accessible you can send messages via text or 
voice or both I think you can even do voice call and video call and you could 
also send links documents etc. very accessible.

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> On Dec 1, 2021, at 9:28 AM, Rebecca Degeorge  
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> I just haven’t ever used it before and wanted to know how to get started. I 
> have already found some information, but thank you for writing.
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> On Dec 1, 2021, at 2:48 AM, Øyvind Lode  wrote:
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> What is the question?
> I'm using WhatsApp and yes it is accessible.
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>> On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 at 20:20, Rebecca Degeorge
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>> Can anyone tell me a bit about how to do this? Is this an appropriate
>> question for this list? Thanks.
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Re: When in the watch app?

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I usually have the watch on I own an Apple Watch series 5 the smallest one.

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> Hi all,
> When I am in the watch app, setting things up, do I need to have the watch 
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Re: Apple fitness?

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I use the Time To Walk series which is accessible. All the others are videos.

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Re: battery case for my phone

[CHELA Robles]

Battery Case for iPhone 11 Pro, 4800mAh Portable Protective Charging Case 
Extended Rechargeable Charger Case Smiphee (Black) 
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07YWLXKJG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_KFMEKFJ3ZEY20TQ36C3S

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> On Nov 27, 2021, at 8:34 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
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> I have the iPhone 11 Pro. I thought Mofi or how ever you spell it had one?
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 27, 2021, at 11:22 PM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
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>> What type of iPhone do you have I have the iPhone 8 plus but I also have a 
>> OtterBox defender series case maybe one of us can look at battery cases for 
>> you there used to be these battery cases for phones that also sanitize the 
>> phone as well. Amazon is also a great place to go to for these type of 
>> things but it can be quite overwhelming if you don’t know what you’re 
>> looking for exactly.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On Nov 27, 2021, at 7:51 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
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>>> Hi all
>>> I want to buy myself a charging case for my phone for my birthday. I would 
>>> go with the Apple smart case but it's a little overpriced in my opinion. 
>>> I'm wondering if there are any good, but cheaper options out there? and if 
>>> I do decide to go with the Smart battery case from Apple does it give the 
>>> phone any protection 
>>> 
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Re: battery case for my phone

[CHELA Robles]

What type of iPhone do you have I have the iPhone 8 plus but I also have a 
OtterBox defender series case maybe one of us can look at battery cases for you 
there used to be these battery cases for phones that also sanitize the phone as 
well. Amazon is also a great place to go to for these type of things but it can 
be quite overwhelming if you don’t know what you’re looking for exactly.

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> Hi all
> I want to buy myself a charging case for my phone for my birthday. I would go 
> with the Apple smart case but it's a little overpriced in my opinion. I'm 
> wondering if there are any good, but cheaper options out there? and if I do 
> decide to go with the Smart battery case from Apple does it give the phone 
> any protection 
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Re: Message I get when asking Siri to open apps

[CHELA Robles]

I've decided to give up on these siri issues since I cannot solve it myself 
independently. Only time I utilize siri is when I'm on the road.

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> Here is the exact message I got last time that I tried using Siri to open an 
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Re: Message I get when asking Siri to open apps

[CHELA Robles]

Do you own a Homepod? I know I don't so I was told to reset my router but it's 
not my router, it's my dad's and like I stated in another message thread, He's 
very illiterate when it comes to tech stuff including knowing or in his case 
not knowing if his network is a VPN.

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> Here is the exact message I got last time that I tried using Siri to open an 
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Re: Question about Siri

[CHELA Robles]

Apple Accessibility gave me that answer as well and I believe that when you 
said something about an iPod it was actually referring to a HomePod. Anyway if 
you were to email accessibility, they'll say the same steps of troubleshooting. 
Is your home network a VPN? I know that in response to my email, that is what 
was asked and since I don't know and I don't have access of resetting the 
router like my sighted father does, and he is not tech savvy to know about 
whether it's a VPN, that's beyond him. LOL! So I keep resetting my network 
settings on my phone rather than explaining it all to dad because it is all 
Greek to him.

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> On Nov 26, 2021, at 5:56 AM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
> 
> 
> We did that already, but thank you.
>  
>  
> From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 8:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Question about Siri
>  
> Normally it has to do with your connection. Try restarting your phone and 
> also your router and try again. 
> 
> 
> On Nov 26, 2021, at 07:50, Richard Turner  wrote:
>  
> What is the device name under settings, general, About?
> Have you checked your wi-fi router'! connection? Maybe unplug the router for 
> 30 seconds and plug it back in and wait a minute while it reconnects.
> Then you may need to reset your phone's network settings, but maybe the 
> router restart will take care of it.
> Siri will use the name in the About settings to identify your device.
>  
> 
>  
> Richard
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> On Nov 26, 2021, at 4:42 AM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
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> 
> Hello,
> Not sure if this thread has been discussed already, but I have a question:
> When I tell Siri to open apps she gives me a variety of answers but mostly 
> “check your connection” or “I’m having trouble with the connection, check 
> your device settings” or something like that.  My point is she won’t open 
> apps.  She thinks my phone is an iPod.  Any suggestions?
> My husband was having the same issue yesterday and mine just started today.  
> I am running the latest IOS version on a SE 2020
> Thanks,
> Johna
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Re: iOS 15.1.1 is out

[CHELA Robles]

I do not see the update yet for my iPhone 8 plus but it doesn’t mean it’s not 
there I’m sure it’s going to be there eventually. So what’s new in this version?

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Re: Help and instructions needed to use Duolingo please and thank you.

[CHELA Robles]

I also have to agree with Brandon on this one as well. Go to duolingo.com

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> On Nov 21, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Brandon A. Olivares  
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> Just FWIW, I would recommend using it on desktop, not on mobile. The mobile 
> version is mostly matching and such, whereas on the desktop web app you have 
> the option of needing to actually type in the answer.
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2021, at 6:34 PM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>> 
>> I use this app all the time it’s very simple to use once you get the hang of 
>> it. I would go to the learn tab and start with unit one double tap on the 
>> lesson number one and it should be pretty straightforward. Buena suerte! 
>> That means good luck in Spanish.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On Nov 21, 2021, at 11:34 AM, Kimberly  wrote:
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>>> It’s been quite a while since I started with Duo Lingo, so I don’t recall 
>>> exactly what the process looked like.
>>> 
>>> I can tell you that there are tabs along the bottom of the screen for 
>>> different areas of the app. The first tab is learning and that is the one 
>>> you want to double tapp. On the next screen you will see a heading called 
>>> unit 1 and below that there are the lessons. I believe the first one is 
>>> intro followed by phrases etc. Are you seeing anything like that?
>>> 
>>> If you need additional help, we can set up a time to talk or facetime if 
>>> you want. Let me know.
>>> 
>>> Kim
>>> 
>>> Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
>>> True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence of 
>>> justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.
>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 21, 2021, at 1:06 PM, Wren Langley  wrote:
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>>>> Hi all,
>>>> This could be rather long, so I apologize in advance. I decided to learn 
>>>> Spanish, so I open the Duolingo app and selected Spanish I got started, 
>>>> created my profile, and now I don’t know what to do or where to go. If 
>>>> anyone has use this app or knows of a better app could you please help me. 
>>>> I would very very much appreciate it. I have spent quite a lot of time 
>>>> figuring this out before I finally wrote in. Thank you in advance for any 
>>>> and all help.
>>>> 
>>>> God bless,
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Re: Help and instructions needed to use Duolingo please and thank you.

[CHELA Robles]

I use this app all the time it’s very simple to use once you get the hang of 
it. I would go to the learn tab and start with unit one double tap on the 
lesson number one and it should be pretty straightforward. Buena suerte! That 
means good luck in Spanish.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 21, 2021, at 11:34 AM, Kimberly  wrote:
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> It’s been quite a while since I started with Duo Lingo, so I don’t recall 
> exactly what the process looked like.
> 
> I can tell you that there are tabs along the bottom of the screen for 
> different areas of the app. The first tab is learning and that is the one you 
> want to double tapp. On the next screen you will see a heading called unit 1 
> and below that there are the lessons. I believe the first one is intro 
> followed by phrases etc. Are you seeing anything like that?
> 
> If you need additional help, we can set up a time to talk or facetime if you 
> want. Let me know.
> 
> Kim
> 
> Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
> True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence of 
> justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.
> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2021, at 1:06 PM, Wren Langley  wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi all,
>> This could be rather long, so I apologize in advance. I decided to learn 
>> Spanish, so I open the Duolingo app and selected Spanish I got started, 
>> created my profile, and now I don’t know what to do or where to go. If 
>> anyone has use this app or knows of a better app could you please help me. I 
>> would very very much appreciate it. I have spent quite a lot of time 
>> figuring this out before I finally wrote in. Thank you in advance for any 
>> and all help.
>> 
>> God bless,
>> Wren Langley 
>> 
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Re: add me to dice world

[CHELA Robles]

Mine is Chela_Robles I will add you later on today. I don’t like pig much 
either but if I have to I’ll play it.

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> If you play dice world, add me please? curtis1014, all except pig, or if you 
> must . . .
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> and my wife Karen is karenkitty
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Re: Weary of Siri

[CHELA Robles]

While I don't have the "Working on that," response I do still have the "having 
problems with the connection" in addition to making sure that this device is on 
the same network as this home pod which I don't own one. I told y'all about the 
run-around with Apple Accessibility yesterday night and I own an iPhone 8 Plus. 
This issue persists when I connect bluetooth devices such as the AirPod Pros 
and the BoseFrames Tempo, and when I disconnect from them, or my Mifa bluetooth 
speaker, it takes two attempts with Siri to launch apps.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 19, 2021, at 5:22 AM, Esther Levegnale  
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> I'm glad I'm not the only one having trouble with Siri.  Sometimes he 
> speaks, while at other times he does not.
> 
> Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
>>> On Nov 19, 2021, at 8:13 AM, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>> She's old and wrinkled and needs to be traded in.
>> 
>> Chris Judge
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan 
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>> Sent: November 18, 2021 11:13 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Weary of Siri
>> 
>> wow! What the heck is wrong with Siri lately. I thought that, after the 
>> upgrade, it would no longer be in the cloud and we would have less issues 
>> since jit would be on a our phone. Frequently I’m getting this stuff like 
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>> Dan
>> “,
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Re: Weary of Siri

[CHELA Robles]

Or having issues with connection the list can go on but you know I did talk to 
Apple accessibility about my issue and unfortunately they don’t know how to fix 
my issue as to replicating what I did with a pair of AirPod pros at least or if 
they have a set of BoseFrames Tempo glasses or both either one really doesn’t 
matter. They just keep rerouting me back to the how to contact Apple 
accessibility page which  contains not only a chat option online, but has their 
email and phone numbers they already gave in their email to me as well. They 
asked me if my Wi-Fi was a VPN but I have no way of knowing sense it’s my dad‘s 
net work and I don’t even know how to use the router to reset it and I told 
them I don't have a Home Pod, So that rules that out. I told them that I reset

My network settings within the iPhone and also forgot my bluetooth Devices and 
repaired them with the phone. Just keep going around in circles with 
accessibility on this one. Shrug!  路‍♀️樂Sent from my iPhone

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> Dan
> “,
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Re: Just received my AirPods Pro and MagSafe charger and a 20 W adapter that is a USB-C to lightning connection

[CHELA Robles]

OK well as the motto goes to each their own preference I’m just glad I was able 
to get these.
Have you guys noticed that when in transparency mode at least those of you who 
own these AirPod pros, when you’re talking, you can actually hear yourself with 
them? I’m starting to get used to it and I figured out how those flat buttons 
or rather little indentations where you squeeze to control media playback, 
anyway I figured out how to go from transparency mode using the AirPods 
themselves to noise cancellation mode without having to open my control center 
on my phone. Pretty neat! I will however point out a bug to Apple and I’m not 
sure if Apple accessibility is aware of the same bug that Simon said about the 
HomePod being on the same network as the HomePod I like I can’t remember the 
exact wording right now but I’m getting that with the AirPods too so anyway it 
was working last night very well. You know it’s the same bug that I keep 
getting with the Bose frames but anyway I will take care of that and let you 
guys know what they say to me sorry for any errors I know I talk too fast 
sometimes and when that happens dictation doesn’t always catch up to me. Have a 
great day!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 13, 2021, at 11:44 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> I have to agree with Sieghard's comments about the original wired Apple 
> Earpods. In my opinion, these are one of the finest set of wired earbuds ever 
> produced for the price. I'll caution that superlative by saying that the 
> Earpods fit my ears perfectly and provide great sound and also let in ambient 
> sound since they don't block the entire ear canal. If you don't like their 
> fit in your ears, then you obviously have to look for something else. And 
> their USA price of $19 USD down from their original price of $38 USD is a 
> great value when buying directly with the Apple Store app.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 11:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Just received my AirPods Pro and MagSafe charger and a 20 W 
> adapter that is a USB-C to lightning connection
> 
> I don't want to discourage anybody from buying these, but just commenting on 
> what you said about wired headsets not lasting too long for you, one does 
> have to keep in mind that a set of wired Earpods costs I think $25 or maybe 
> even $19.99 in the US whereas these are I think $200. This means you could 
> buy at least 8 sets of wired Apple Earpods for what one pair of Airpods Pro 
> costs and even if a wired set only lasted you 6 months (most likely it's more 
> like a year) then it's still a super expensive headset. I get about a year 
> out of my Earpods, maybe even a bit more, and I use them all the time, I wrap 
> them around my hand and stick them into my pocket, I wear them in bed and 
> sometimes they get tangled up, I often use only the ride side when listening 
> to an audio book and have several times bend over the sink just to drop the 
> left side which was over my shoulders into the water and still they work.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
> Robles
> Sent: November 12, 2021 9:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Just received my AirPods Pro and MagSafe charger and a 20 W adapter 
> that is a USB-C to lightning connection
> 
> Hello everybody I just received my AirPods Pro along with the safe mag 
> charger and a 20 W USBC adapter to plug the safe mag charger into so I can 
> wirelessly charge my phone or charge my AirPods Pro. Setting it up was 
> extremely straightforward and easy and right now I’ve got transparency mode 
> enabled and it works very well I can hear the environment around me and I 
> tested out the air tips and I actually decided before testing them out to 
> take out the medium and swap them for the smallest ones because I thought and 
> I had a hunch that they would be the perfect fit for me given my past 
> experiences with putting earbuds in my ears. When I did the fit test for the 
> first time, the music played in both my ears and then the screen reader read 
> that the smallest ear tips were the best choice for me I knew it all along 
> though but I wanted to make sure. I’ve also tested out the Siri features and 
> they work extremely well so far for me. One more thing I really Love special 
> sound and noise canceling as well as being able to control playback with the 
> click of either AirPod stem and I really do think it is quite neat how they 
> placed the little button that looks like a volume slider that I’ve been 
> familiar with on wired headsets for a long time which by the way, the wired 
> earbuds don’t last that long with me unfortunately b

Re: Just received my AirPods Pro and MagSafe charger and a 20 W adapter that is a USB-C to lightning connection

[CHELA Robles]

Well technically for me and the ear fit of those regular wired earbuds they 
tend to not work for me that’s just my preference. I do like that ear tips for 
the AirPods Pro’s though. They fit perfectly I could never get the wired ear 
pods to stay in my ears long enough my ears are just funny I guess.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 13, 2021, at 9:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I don't want to discourage anybody from buying these, but just commenting on 
> what you said about wired headsets not lasting too long for you, one does 
> have to keep in mind that a set of wired Earpods costs I think $25 or maybe 
> even $19.99 in the US whereas these are I think $200. This means you could 
> buy at least 8 sets of wired Apple Earpods for what one pair of Airpods Pro 
> costs and even if a wired set only lasted you 6 months (most likely it's more 
> like a year) then it's still a super expensive headset. I get about a year 
> out of my Earpods, maybe even a bit more, and I use them all the time, I wrap 
> them around my hand and stick them into my pocket, I wear them in bed and 
> sometimes they get tangled up, I often use only the ride side when listening 
> to an audio book and have several times bend over the sink just to drop the 
> left side which was over my shoulders into the water and still they work.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
> Robles
> Sent: November 12, 2021 9:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Just received my AirPods Pro and MagSafe charger and a 20 W adapter 
> that is a USB-C to lightning connection
> 
> Hello everybody I just received my AirPods Pro along with the safe mag 
> charger and a 20 W USBC adapter to plug the safe mag charger into so I can 
> wirelessly charge my phone or charge my AirPods Pro. Setting it up was 
> extremely straightforward and easy and right now I’ve got transparency mode 
> enabled and it works very well I can hear the environment around me and I 
> tested out the air tips and I actually decided before testing them out to 
> take out the medium and swap them for the smallest ones because I thought and 
> I had a hunch that they would be the perfect fit for me given my past 
> experiences with putting earbuds in my ears. When I did the fit test for the 
> first time, the music played in both my ears and then the screen reader read 
> that the smallest ear tips were the best choice for me I knew it all along 
> though but I wanted to make sure. I’ve also tested out the Siri features and 
> they work extremely well so far for me. One more thing I really Love special 
> sound and noise canceling as well as being able to control playback with the 
> click of either AirPod stem and I really do think it is quite neat how they 
> placed the little button that looks like a volume slider that I’ve been 
> familiar with on wired headsets for a long time which by the way, the wired 
> earbuds don’t last that long with me unfortunately but this actually works 
> very well I am very pleased. I noticed the MagSafe charger only charges the 
> AirPod pros and the iPhone while it’s connected to the adapter via the cord 
> that it’s attached to which is fine and I did figure out how to wirelessly 
> charge my iPhone 8 Plus edit took some turning of the phone around to where 
> it looked like it was horizontal versus vertical and I had to place it where 
> the battery is and I actually never knew where the battery was on this phone 
> until it actually vibrated and I thought that was very interesting because 
> usually I’m used to just plugging something into the lightning port of the 
> phone but I thought it was cool. You’ll learn something new every day. If I 
> did have any sort of hearing loss I could totally recommend this only because 
> you’ve got the transparency mode and apparently reading the documentation 
> there’s a section on using them as hearing aids apparently but since I don’t 
> have that issue I’m not going to actually dive into it but they do sound very 
> clear. We should see how phone calls sound and yes I still have my Bose 
> frames but sometimes it’s good to have a back up just in case these are my 
> back up thanks for reading.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
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Re: Just received my AirPods Pro and MagSafe charger and a 20 W adapter that is a USB-C to lightning connection

[CHELA Robles]

Granted, I’ve not used the controls on the AirPods Pro to switch from 
transparency to noise canceling mode and vice versa and I finally figured out 
what the off button does turns off both basically so I won’t press that button 
in the Bluetooth settings under the info for the selected headset which is the 
AirPods Pro. I am curious to learn about how to use the physical control 
buttons on the AirPods themselves though so if you guys have a kind of cheat 
sheet on usage of the buttons on the AirPods on the stems, please feel free to 
share them with me thanks. Oh and by the way I turned my head to the left into 
the right and I felt like the music was turning around with me which was really 
cool and spatial audio is amazing and clear I tried it out on one of my 
favorite albums kind of blue by Miles Davis it felt like I was in the recording 
studio with them!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 12, 2021, at 10:07 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> Glad you like them.
> 
> 
> 
> Dennis Long
> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2021, at 12:49 AM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everybody I just received my AirPods Pro along with the safe mag 
>> charger and a 20 W USBC adapter to plug the safe mag charger into so I can 
>> wirelessly charge my phone or charge my AirPods Pro. Setting it up was 
>> extremely straightforward and easy and right now I’ve got transparency mode 
>> enabled and it works very well I can hear the environment around me and I 
>> tested out the air tips and I actually decided before testing them out to 
>> take out the medium and swap them for the smallest ones because I thought 
>> and I had a hunch that they would be the perfect fit for me given my past 
>> experiences with putting earbuds in my ears. When I did the fit test for the 
>> first time, the music played in both my ears and then the screen reader read 
>> that the smallest ear tips were the best choice for me I knew it all along 
>> though but I wanted to make sure. I’ve also tested out the Siri features and 
>> they work extremely well so far for me. One more thing I really Love special 
>> sound and noise canceling as well as being able to control playback with the 
>> click of either AirPod stem and I really do think it is quite neat how they 
>> placed the little button that looks like a volume slider that I’ve been 
>> familiar with on wired headsets for a long time which by the way, the wired 
>> earbuds don’t last that long with me unfortunately but this actually works 
>> very well I am very pleased. I noticed the MagSafe charger only charges the 
>> AirPod pros and the iPhone while it’s connected to the adapter via the cord 
>> that it’s attached to which is fine and I did figure out how to wirelessly 
>> charge my iPhone 8 Plus edit took some turning of the phone around to where 
>> it looked like it was horizontal versus vertical and I had to place it where 
>> the battery is and I actually never knew where the battery was on this phone 
>> until it actually vibrated and I thought that was very interesting because 
>> usually I’m used to just plugging something into the lightning port of the 
>> phone but I thought it was cool. You’ll learn something new every day. If I 
>> did have any sort of hearing loss I could totally recommend this only 
>> because you’ve got the transparency mode and apparently reading the 
>> documentation there’s a section on using them as hearing aids apparently but 
>> since I don’t have that issue I’m not going to actually dive into it but 
>> they do sound very clear. We should see how phone calls sound and yes I 
>> still have my Bose frames but sometimes it’s good to have a back up just in 
>> case these are my back up thanks for reading.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Just received my AirPods Pro and MagSafe charger and a 20 W adapter that is a USB-C to lightning connection

[CHELA Robles]

Hello everybody I just received my AirPods Pro along with the safe mag charger 
and a 20 W USBC adapter to plug the safe mag charger into so I can wirelessly 
charge my phone or charge my AirPods Pro. Setting it up was extremely 
straightforward and easy and right now I’ve got transparency mode enabled and 
it works very well I can hear the environment around me and I tested out the 
air tips and I actually decided before testing them out to take out the medium 
and swap them for the smallest ones because I thought and I had a hunch that 
they would be the perfect fit for me given my past experiences with putting 
earbuds in my ears. When I did the fit test for the first time, the music 
played in both my ears and then the screen reader read that the smallest ear 
tips were the best choice for me I knew it all along though but I wanted to 
make sure. I’ve also tested out the Siri features and they work extremely well 
so far for me. One more thing I really Love special sound and noise canceling 
as well as being able to control playback with the click of either AirPod stem 
and I really do think it is quite neat how they placed the little button that 
looks like a volume slider that I’ve been familiar with on wired headsets for a 
long time which by the way, the wired earbuds don’t last that long with me 
unfortunately but this actually works very well I am very pleased. I noticed 
the MagSafe charger only charges the AirPod pros and the iPhone while it’s 
connected to the adapter via the cord that it’s attached to which is fine and I 
did figure out how to wirelessly charge my iPhone 8 Plus edit took some turning 
of the phone around to where it looked like it was horizontal versus vertical 
and I had to place it where the battery is and I actually never knew where the 
battery was on this phone until it actually vibrated and I thought that was 
very interesting because usually I’m used to just plugging something into the 
lightning port of the phone but I thought it was cool. You’ll learn something 
new every day. If I did have any sort of hearing loss I could totally recommend 
this only because you’ve got the transparency mode and apparently reading the 
documentation there’s a section on using them as hearing aids apparently but 
since I don’t have that issue I’m not going to actually dive into it but they 
do sound very clear. We should see how phone calls sound and yes I still have 
my Bose frames but sometimes it’s good to have a back up just in case these are 
my back up thanks for reading.

Sent from my iPhone

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