RE: What's app web vs. What's App Mobile App

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

No, in my experience the windows version does not work that well, the phone app 
is way more accessible than the windows app, unless this has changed in the 
last few months.  At this stage for the windows version to work, you have to 
have an account on your phone any way, so one might as well use the phone.  
This will change when whatsapp roll out multi device support in the future.

Jan

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Priscilla Garces (prisci)
Sent: 26 August 2020 16:18
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What's app web vs. What's App Mobile App

 

Hi All,

Hope  you are doing well.

I have a couple questions about What’s app web vs. the What’s app Mobile app.

How accessible is the what’s app web client? Has anyone ever used what’s app 
web? If so, what has been your experience?

Is it less accessible than the mobile app?

I only use the mobile app, and it is very accessible for me. But I wanted to 
use what’s app web to see if it’s just as accessible with VoiceOver as it is in 
the mobile app. Does anyone use the mobile app as well? If so which do you all 
prefer, what’s app web and/or what’s app mobile?

Please reach out via reply at garcesp...@gmail.com

 

Thank you and have a nice day.

Best,

 

Priscilla

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RE: Lightening

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi all

The below comes from the app store.  I am in South Africa, where no apps really 
warns against lightning strikes, unless you pay some monthly subscriptions for 
the local weather apps, not always so successful.  This app is mostly 
accessible, and it does warn of lightning, within 30 km and then again within 
10 km.  It does work for me, most of the times.  See then the below:

Weatherplaza is the new and improved international weather app created by 
Infoplaza. The app provides weather forecasts up to 14 days for over a million 
locations worldwide using the latest global weather data models available. 
Personalise your app by creating alerts for your favourite locations to make 
sure the weather doesn’t ruin your day. The app includes a 'live' rain alarm 
that works throughout a large part of the world and a lightning alarm that 
works worldwide.

 

Why download the Weatherplaza app?

 

- It's simple and easy to use

- Extensive weather forecasting for over a million locations worldwide

- Weather forecasts for the next 24 hours up to 14 days

- Rain alarm and rain radar

- Worldwide lightning alarm with 98% accuracy

 

 

Weatherplaza uses the best weather data available, which is then analysed by 
professional meteorologists. This data is also used by major companies and 
governmental institutions. Our customers rely daily on accurate and reliable 
weather services so the Weatherplaza app has been created to help their daily 
activities become a little bit more predictable.

 

Note: Continued use of GPS running in the background can dramatically decrease 
battery life.

What’s New

Version History

4 Jun 2020Version 1.2.7

Weatherplaza has a number of very cool, new updates! A completely new map has 
been added. In addition, a new data stream has been introduced for displaying 
live lightning and precipitation. Under the hood in effect, Weatherplaza has 
become a whole new app which is much faster and very smooth. We hope you are as 
enthusiastic about Weatherplaza's revamp as we are!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Steve Sweeney
Sent: 21 June 2020 03:33
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Lightening

 

Hi All,

This afternoon I tried an experiment.  I installed and configured both the 
Weather Gods app and the app from the Weather channel.  

Living in Orlando, I knew we were going to get at least one thunder storm 
today.  We did this evening when the sea breezes came together as is normal for 
this time of year.

I also have a stand alone lightening detector that beeps when it detects a 
lightening strike.  The problem with it is I can’t tell how far away the 
lightening is.  Anyway, the stand alone detector went off about 8 times and 
unfortunately neither app reported a strike of lightening.  A couple of them 
were really close cause the time between the detector going off and the thunder 
was only about two seconds.

So for me, it is back to square one in finding an app that will report nearby 
lightening.

 

Take care all -Steve

 

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A question on the simple radio app

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi all

I installed the simple radio app on my wife's iPhone and there is an in-app
purchase in the app to remove the adverts.  I can however find no settings
somewhere to perform the purchase to remove the adds.  Is there a way to
find this or would I have to use the app until such time the particular add
comes up offering the in-app purchase?

Any help appreciated.

 

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Re: Weather gods

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi Michael

I think you are referring to the custom roter here.  It comes into play when 
you are on any of the gods, e.g. water god, air god, and so on.  If you now 
swipe up or down, you will here the name of the next day, e.g. Wednesday, 
Thursday, and so on.  Double tapping on this will bring up the forecast for the 
particular day.  This is true for all the gods in the app.  I have made some 
suggestions for changes in this feature, as it, in my opinion, seems senseless 
to have the forecast displayed regardless of which god you choose to perform 
the roter action on.

Jan Kleinhans

  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Maslo 
  To: Google Groups 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2017 12:38 PM
  Subject: Weather gods


   Hi List, I was wondering if there is anyone on the list with using Weather 
Gods and just received the update. If so I was wondering if anyone could assist 
me with the custom roller selections which are mentioned in the update. Any 
assistance would be greatly appreciated. 

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Re: Storm tracker... anyone know of an accessible app?

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

It does indeed have notifications for all the possible cities you can select 
within the app.  You need to set the city as a favourite and then turn on 
whatever notifications you want to receive for your city.  The developer lives 
in Europe, so I'm sure it should work for cities in Europe.

Jan Kleinhans

  - Original Message - 
  From: Davy Cuppens 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 12:15 PM
  Subject: Re: Storm tracker... anyone know of an accessible app?


  Could it be that Weather Gods has no coverage for Europe? I used the app some 
months ago without any notification or weather alerts.

  From: Feliciano Godoy 
  Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 3:37 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Storm tracker... anyone know of an accessible app?

  Hi, 
  I'm not the original poster, but I I just purchased the app. I currently use 
dark sky  and enjoying it because of the push notifications. So far, I have set 
the notifications that I want to have on the weather gods app. 
  Initial impression, I like the user interface. .

  Regards, 
  Feliciano 
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  On Sep 7, 2017, at 8:24 PM, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote:


Hello all, 

You could try the weather app “Weather Gods”

You can set many different locations and save alerts for all of them.

App Store link:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/weather-gods/id1041512978?mt=8

The applications developer is very accessibility orientated, and has made 
every feature accessible to VoiceOver users.

Ed
  On Sep 7, 2017, at 8:11 AM, Jenifer Barr <claudas...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Hi all.
  While I am not in the path of any hurricanes, I have family and friends 
who are. Can anyone please point me to an accessible app that allows me to 
track a storm? 
  Thanks.
  Jen


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Re: Correction to Emoji list

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Is there a easier way to get to any of these?  They all have a number, so is 
there a way to go to a specific one using the number rather than swiping 
through them all?

Jan Kleinhans
  - Original Message - 
  From: Donna 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 9:33 PM
  Subject: Correction to Emoji list


  Frequently Used 1-30
  Smileys & People 31-320
  Animals & Nature 321-480
  Food & Drink 481-566
  Activity 567-646
  Travel & Places 647-765
  Objects 766-938
  Symbols 939-1,209
  Flags 1,210-1,462


  Donna 

On Jul 28, 2017, at 12:36 PM, Donna <merma...@bellsouth.net> wrote:






Richard,


  No, I don't have a list of the emojis. I do use emojis a lot when sending 
text messages, Facebook post & comments. The emojis are pretty much straight 
forward in the way they are categorized. The only 2 categories of emojis that 
don't make much sense on how they are grouped together are the Objects & 
Symbols categories.  The first 30 emojis are the emojis that are most 
frequently used. 31 through 320. are Smiley's & People. 321 through 566 are 
Food & Drink. 567 through 646 are Activity Emojis. 647 through 765 are Travel & 
Places. 766 through 938 are Object Emojis. 939 through 1,209 are Symbols 
Emojis. 1,210 through 1,462 are Flag emojis.  


  Hope this helps. 


  Donna   

Donna, 
Do you have a list of all these?
You seem to know which one is and where it is.
If there is a list somewhere, that would be a great resource.
Thanks,
Richard





(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jul 27, 2017, at 6:51 PM, Donna <merma...@bellsouth.net> wrote:


  Hi Jen & Jim

  I'm going to answer Jen's question first. The red heart suit can be 
found in the symbols category. It is emoji 1181 & can be found a few above the 
clock times emojis. Heart suit is used to represent close friendship or love 
between 2 people. 

  Jim, the hand gestures emojis are located in the Smileys & People 
category. The hand gestures start with number 127 thru 154. When you first use 
any of the hand gestures you will need to choose a skin tone before the emoji 
is added to your message to select a skin tone...Find the emoji you want to 
use. Tap on it. A list of skin tones will appear, going across not up & down, 
either to the left or right of the emoji you have selected, tap on the skin 
tone of your choice & it will be added to your message. 

  I don't use dictation so I can't answer your question regarding using 
emojis when dictation. 

  Donna 



I am also wondering where you find the one that comes up white 
heart suit and what does this symbol mean.



  On Jul 27, 2017, at 2:54 PM, Jim Portillo 
<portillo@gmail.com> wrote:



  Good morning,



  I have a question about using some emoticons, especially in texts.

  I have the emoticon keyboard, and I see all the categories, such 
as smileys and such.  But, there are a few that are commonly used that I don't 
see, and dictating them doesn't seem to work.

  For instance, where do I find the OK hand, or most importantly, 
the Thumbs-up sign?  Does anyone know about some of these commonly used ones?

  Thanks.

  Jim





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Re: What's app question

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

It is indeed doable, but it remains very tricky to get the menu to display 
after doubletapping and holding on the particular message.  Sometimes when 
releasing the screen the message might start to play rather than the menu 
appearing on screen, but it does work though.


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From: "Marco Chan" <marsyc...@gmail.com>

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Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 4:27 PM
Subject: What's app question



Can we forward voice message from What's app.

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Re: Trouble in forwarding messages in whatsapp groups

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

There is no definite other way of doing this, and this problem comes from 
prior versions of the app.  Some messages will copy easier than others, 
especially within a chat.  I sometimes have to doubletap and hold for a few 
seconds, holding your finger on the screen longer, then also wait a few 
seconds before actually trying to find the menu that is suppose to pop up. 
Another thing I also do is to doubletap and hold, and then tap once or twice 
with another finger on the screen, which sometimes also brings up the menu. 
This is indeed an inconsistent problem with whatsapp and I have reported 
this many a time.  Good luck.


Jan Kleinhans

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From: "turab chimthanawala" <turab...@gmail.com>

To: "viphone" <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 2:30 PM
Subject: Trouble in forwarding messages in whatsapp groups



Hi all
Hope this mail finds you well.
I struggle to forward messages from whatsapp groups. I use the double
tap and hold gesture but many a  times the box  containing Forward,
Reply etc. options does not appear and voice over keeps reading the
message repeatedly. Am aware of triple tap gesture but have been
unable to successfully perform it.
Looking forward for suggestions in this end.
Best
Turab

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Re: A question about Whatsapp.

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

There is a web option for whatsapp, although I don't know how accessible this 
is using the computer.  I think there is also some code that has to be scanned 
in for the web service.  Other than that you have to use a valid cell phone 
number for whatsapp to work.  A group has a group admin person which has to add 
you to a specific group, and for that he will have to have your phone number.

Jan Kleinhans
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  From: Rebecca Ilniski 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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  Subject: RE: A question about Whatsapp.


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Re: A question about Whatsapp.

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Indeed one can clear messages from a chat, although this action is sometimes 
hit and miss to actually get the relevant message selected.  When clearing 
the chat the prompts are very clear.  You won't be exiting your group by 
accident, as this option is clearly spoken out.


Jan Kleinhans
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From: "Liz and LD Hope" <elizabethulr...@sbcglobal.net>

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Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 3:32 AM
Subject: A question about Whatsapp.



Due to the fact that Roger will be going away eventually, my Roger groups
are migrating over to Whatsapp.  I have a couple of questions.  1.  If you
record a voice message that you don't want to keep, can you delete
individual messages?  When clearing a chat, does this action clear the
messages?  I do not want to accidentally delete myself from a group.

Liz Ulrich
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Re: Copy and paste from windows to iPhone, need an app:

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi
And to add to this, it is nice when there might be a document somewhere on the 
pc that you wish to share in that way, as one can just open that document, copy 
it and then paste it into the app that way.  I have used this feature many a 
time.  Likewise, sometimes I get an e-mail message on the pc, and then I want 
to share this via another platform like whatsapp, so I can then copy the 
contents of the mail into the app and then share it on whatsapp.

Jan Kleinhans
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan Lemly 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 3:06 AM
  Subject: RE: Copy and paste from windows to iPhone, need an app:


  Carol,

   

  I generally leave Snippets running in my App Switcher. I believe I'm going 
from my PC to my iPhone about 95% of the time I use it but I keep the website 
bookmarked in Firefox. When I open the bookmarked URL which is usually 
192.168.1.72.2121, it usually comes up displaying what's already on the 
Snippets app. I won't say it's seamless but it works almost all the time. I 
have had to retype the 192 URL on occasion into my browser but as long as both 
your iDevice and computer are using the same wi-fi network, it works smoothly. 
I will delete the text which appears from the app in my browser and type in 
what I need to transfer from my computer to the iPhone in the browser window 
text box. It appears in the app where I can easily copy and paste it.

   

  Alan Lemly

   

  From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
  Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 4:57 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Copy and paste from windows to iPhone, need an app:

   

  Oh, I must look at that. How do you manage to set it up so that you can swap 
between the two seamlessly?
  On 28 Jan 2017, at 2:54 pm, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:

  I use an app called Snippets by Notable Group to copy data between my Windows 
7 computer and my iPhone 7. This app used to be named Text sync and uses a 
dedicated web page where you can copy data into a text box for pasting between 
the two. 

   

  Good luck. 

   

  Alan Lemly 

  Sent from my iPhone


  On Jan 28, 2017, at 7:54 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi listers.

 

I used to use a windows program called easy push and its iphone ap called 
UbiDisc.

 

The iPhone app is now to old.

 

this set of programs I could use to copy text from the clicpboard on my 
windows pc to my iPhone.

 

Any suggestions for a current set of programs to easily do this?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Don

 

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Re: Copy and paste from windows to iPhone, need an app:

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

I also do not remember what all was added to the app, but it did indeed remove 
all the adds.  For me it was a worth while spending as the adds anoyed me, with 
videos starting to play sometimes and so on.  I use this app often.

Jan Kleinhans
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  Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 6:16 PM
  Subject: RE: Copy and paste from windows to iPhone, need an app:


  Hi Alan,

   

  The app store description doesn’t say what you get for unlocking the full 
version for $1.99, do you know what the difference is?

  This looks interesting.

   

  Richard

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
  Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 6:55 AM
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  Subject: Re: Copy and paste from windows to iPhone, need an app:

   

  I use an app called Snippets by Notable Group to copy data between my Windows 
7 computer and my iPhone 7. This app used to be named Text sync and uses a 
dedicated web page where you can copy data into a text box for pasting between 
the two. 

   

  Good luck. 

   

  Alan Lemly 

  Sent from my iPhone


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Hi listers.

 

I used to use a windows program called easy push and its iphone ap called 
UbiDisc.

 

The iPhone app is now to old.

 

this set of programs I could use to copy text from the clicpboard on my 
windows pc to my iPhone.

 

Any suggestions for a current set of programs to easily do this?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Don

 

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Organizing photos into albums on Iphone 5s question

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi all
So, we have an iphone 5s running ios 10.2, and we are wanting to organize 
photos into custome albums.  My question basicly is: can one save photos shared 
via shocial media, like whatsapp, into custome made albums? We have received a 
lot of photos and videos over the festive season, so I create an album called 
"christmas" and another named "new year".  So, to reproduce my steps, which 
would not work in the end I did the following:
I double tapped on the "camera roll" where all the photos are stored by default;
then I double tapped on the "select button" on the screen where all the 
thumbnail photos are displayed;
next I double tapped on each video and photo that I wanted to move;
then I double tapped on the "add to" button, bringing up the list of albums on 
my phone.
Here is where the problem starts: I see the default albums, and the very last 
option is one called "my albums", and I took it that "christmas" and "new year" 
would be part of the "my albums" option.  I can double tap on this "my album" 
option, but nothing happens after that.  I can not see my custome albums, and 
thus the selected photos and videos can not be saved into those albums.  Am I 
missing something here, or can one only save photos taken with the phone into 
the custome albums?  We have receive most of the photos and videos via 
whatsapp, and can always save them, but I can not get them to move into my 
custome albums.

Any help greatly appreciated on this one.

Regards

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Re: Navigan questions?

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thanks very much.  I wonder if this is a problem with our country's release 
then?  I have a friend in another town with exactly the same problem as I have, 
so this is very strange.  Thanks for confirming that it does actually work then.

Regards

Jan

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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 6:44 PM
  Subject: Re: Navigan questions?




  I just tried it and just searching for a first name, got the person in the 
contacts immediately.
  I assume there has to be an address in the contact, but beyond that, nothing 
special.
  Not sure why it wouldn't work.
  Richard



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  On Dec 28, 2016, at 6:08 AM, Jan Kleinhans <jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net> wrote:


Hi all

We had a update to the navigan app here in South Africa, and some of the 
new features just won't work for me, and I am hoping someone can help.
The latest update is suppose to be able to see contacts with addresses on 
your phone, and also have a microphone button if you wanted to use the voice 
feature rather than typing in the info.  Now, no matter what I do, it does not 
return any contact with addresses when I search for them.  I have enabled that 
feature when the app asked to allow access to the contacts.  Would there then 
be a certain format for the addresses in one's contacts, or what might I be 
missing here?  I can search for normal places listed in the maps itself but 
nothing that is on the phone will come up.  I use an Iphone 6 with the latest 
Ios running.

Any help appreciated

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Navigan questions?

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi all

We had a update to the navigan app here in South Africa, and some of the new 
features just won't work for me, and I am hoping someone can help.
The latest update is suppose to be able to see contacts with addresses on your 
phone, and also have a microphone button if you wanted to use the voice feature 
rather than typing in the info.  Now, no matter what I do, it does not return 
any contact with addresses when I search for them.  I have enabled that feature 
when the app asked to allow access to the contacts.  Would there then be a 
certain format for the addresses in one's contacts, or what might I be missing 
here?  I can search for normal places listed in the maps itself but nothing 
that is on the phone will come up.  I use an Iphone 6 with the latest Ios 
running.

Any help appreciated

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Re: Blocking unwanted calls on the iPhone

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

There is an app, called truecaller, but this does not block calls from "no 
i.d." numbers, in other words, where no caller id is displayed.  This app has 
an extensive list of reported spam numbers, and this grows almost every day.  
You can also report a number as spam, should it get to your phone, and those 
numbers can then be blocked.

Jan Kleinhans
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  From: Mary Otten 
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  Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:07 AM
  Subject: Re: Blocking unwanted calls on the iPhone


  Well, I gather that AT has started some kind of spam blocking service, but 
I am not an AT customer. And if you have android, there are call blocking 
apps. So I was hoping there might be something for the iPhone as well. I know 
about stopping each number after the fact. And I'm not worried about text 
messages, because I don't get any that I don't want. At least not yet. It's 
just that I have actually started to get a few spam calls on my iPhone after 
years of being left alone. I have no idea how my number is getting into 
circulation, but there you go.
  Mary



  Sent from my iPhone

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I don't know of anything like that for phone calls. Text messages from 
people not in your contacts can be filtered into a different list etc.
I'd like the same option with the phone.
Richard



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  I know it is possible to block unwanted calls from a known number. That 
is, you get a call, you don't want to hear from that number anymore, and you 
tell The phone app to block anything more coming from there. But what I am 
looking for is something that would be a bit more proactive, that is, something 
that could, for example, block any call that is coming from a number that is 
either not in my contacts or one that I have not previously dialed. Does such a 
thing exist?
  Mary


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Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thanks, I did not even know there was a smaller update out again.  Hopefully 
it will work without problems this time then.


Jan

- Original Message - 
From: "Shai" <shai...@gmail.com>

To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1



Hello Jan,
Now that iOS 10.1.1 has been released, you may want to try again.
Perhaps you will be able to download the update this time.
Good luck.


On 10/30/16, Jan Kleinhans <jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

Hi

Thanks for all the suggestions.  Indeed wi-fi is working, cellular data 
is

off, and the phone can pretty much be used for anything else but for
updating.  I will try some more during the day, before resetting the 
whole

thing as a new phone, was hoping that would not be necessary.  Thanks all
the same for helping.

Jan

- Original Message -
From: "Shai" <shai...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1



Hello Jan,
It sounds to me like you have done all that you could do to try to get
the phone updated. Just to confirm, does your phone state that it is
connected to WiFI in the status bar at the top of the screen after
resetting network settings? Are you able to launch and browse the
Internet with Safari? You might want to try disabling cellular data
and seeing if you could do the update this way. That way you are sure
that WiFi is connected. You can turn off cellular data in
settings/cellular.
If you still receive the same message, you will  have to reset the
phone as new again to get it to update to iOS10.1.


On 10/30/16, Jan Kleinhans <jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

Hi all

Because of some problems with my computer which is not relevant here, I
tried updating my iPhone 6 to ios 10.1 over the air, but this seems to 
be


a
problem.  I get to the point where it starts downloading the update,
then
after about 5 minutes the message appears: "error downloading update" 
and


I
then can close it or retry.  Now, I have tried numerous times, same
thing
happening.  I have restarted the phone by switching it off, rebooting
with
the multiple presses of the power button, I've reset the network
settings,
no apps in the app switcher, but the same thing happens all the time. 
It


is
a 64 gb phone, lots of memory free, so that also is not the problem.  I
have
used the same wi-fi network to update my wife's iPhone 5S, and there 
were


no
problems whatsoever.  What might be the problem here?  When I got this
phone, it was just after the release of Ios 10.  I then did a clean
install,
redownloaded the apps I needed from the app store, not using an old
backup.
So, short from setting it up as a new phone again, would there be
something
else that I could try?  It is also connected to power when I attempt
this,
so all those bases are covered.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jan Kleinhans

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Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi all
Just to let you all know that I have now succeeded with my download of ios 
10.1.  I have tried so many times, and last night when I tried again, it 
actually downloaded the update and I could install it after that.  Why it would 
not work for so many times, I just do not know.  Thank you for all the 
suggestions.  It is good to know that there are so many knowledgeable people 
out there and also people willing to share their knowledge and help.

Regards

Jan

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jan Kleinhans 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 6:48 PM
  Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1


  Hi 

  Thanks Fanus, will have a look at that lot as well, mine is normally also 
turned off though, but will give it a try.

  Jan

- Original Message - 
From: Fanus 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1


Hello Jan
I do not know if it will help but a few updates ago my 5S did the same 
trick. For some reason I decided to go into the privacy setting and I turned 
automatic updates off. It used to be off so why it came on again I do not know 
But after turning it off I could do the update. Why this caused the problem is 
not clear. 
Regards
Fanus


From: Jan Kleinhans 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 3:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

Hi

It's a 64 gb phone, 50,5 gb left on the phone.

Jan

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:34 PM
  Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1


  I have not been following this thread. How much room do you have on the 
phone?
  Richard



  “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
  - Satsuki Shibuya




  (Sent from my iPod 6)

  On Oct 30, 2016, at 11:43 PM, Jan Kleinhans <jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net> 
wrote:


Hi

Thanks for all the suggestions.  Indeed wi-fi is working, cellular data 
is off, and the phone can pretty much be used for anything else but for 
updating.  I will try some more during the day, before resetting the whole 
thing as a new phone, was hoping that would not be necessary.  Thanks all the 
same for helping.

Jan

- Original Message - From: "Shai" <shai...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1



  Hello Jan,

  It sounds to me like you have done all that you could do to try to get

  the phone updated. Just to confirm, does your phone state that it is

  connected to WiFI in the status bar at the top of the screen after

  resetting network settings? Are you able to launch and browse the

  Internet with Safari? You might want to try disabling cellular data

  and seeing if you could do the update this way. That way you are sure

  that WiFi is connected. You can turn off cellular data in

  settings/cellular.

  If you still receive the same message, you will  have to reset the

  phone as new again to get it to update to iOS10.1.





      On 10/30/16, Jan Kleinhans <jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

Hi all



Because of some problems with my computer which is not relevant 
here, I

tried updating my iPhone 6 to ios 10.1 over the air, but this seems 
to be a

problem.  I get to the point where it starts downloading the 
update, then

after about 5 minutes the message appears: "error downloading 
update" and I

then can close it or retry.  Now, I have tried numerous times, same 
thing

happening.  I have restarted the phone by switching it off, 
rebooting with

the multiple presses of the power button, I've reset the network 
settings,

no apps in the app switcher, but the same thing happens all the 
time.  It is

a 64 gb phone, lots of memory free, so that also is not the 
problem.  I have

used the same wi-fi network to update my wife's iPhone 5S, and 
there were no

problems whatsoever.  What might be the problem here?  When I got 
this

phone, it was just after the release of Ios 10.  I then did a clean 
install,

redownloaded the apps I needed from the app store, not using an old 
backup.

So, short from setting it up as a new phone again, would there be 
something

else that I could try?  It is also connected to power when I 
attempt this,

so all those bases are

Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi 

Thanks Fanus, will have a look at that lot as well, mine is normally also 
turned off though, but will give it a try.

Jan

  - Original Message - 
  From: Fanus 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 4:29 PM
  Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1


  Hello Jan
  I do not know if it will help but a few updates ago my 5S did the same trick. 
For some reason I decided to go into the privacy setting and I turned automatic 
updates off. It used to be off so why it came on again I do not know But after 
turning it off I could do the update. Why this caused the problem is not clear. 
  Regards
  Fanus


  From: Jan Kleinhans 
  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 3:25 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

  Hi

  It's a 64 gb phone, 50,5 gb left on the phone.

  Jan

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1


I have not been following this thread. How much room do you have on the 
phone?
Richard



“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya




(Sent from my iPod 6)

On Oct 30, 2016, at 11:43 PM, Jan Kleinhans <jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net> 
wrote:


  Hi

  Thanks for all the suggestions.  Indeed wi-fi is working, cellular data 
is off, and the phone can pretty much be used for anything else but for 
updating.  I will try some more during the day, before resetting the whole 
thing as a new phone, was hoping that would not be necessary.  Thanks all the 
same for helping.

  Jan

  - Original Message - From: "Shai" <shai...@gmail.com>
  To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:39 AM
  Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1



Hello Jan,

It sounds to me like you have done all that you could do to try to get

the phone updated. Just to confirm, does your phone state that it is

connected to WiFI in the status bar at the top of the screen after

resetting network settings? Are you able to launch and browse the

Internet with Safari? You might want to try disabling cellular data

and seeing if you could do the update this way. That way you are sure

that WiFi is connected. You can turn off cellular data in

settings/cellular.

If you still receive the same message, you will  have to reset the

phone as new again to get it to update to iOS10.1.





    On 10/30/16, Jan Kleinhans <jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

  Hi all



  Because of some problems with my computer which is not relevant here, 
I

  tried updating my iPhone 6 to ios 10.1 over the air, but this seems 
to be a

  problem.  I get to the point where it starts downloading the update, 
then

  after about 5 minutes the message appears: "error downloading update" 
and I

  then can close it or retry.  Now, I have tried numerous times, same 
thing

  happening.  I have restarted the phone by switching it off, rebooting 
with

  the multiple presses of the power button, I've reset the network 
settings,

  no apps in the app switcher, but the same thing happens all the time. 
 It is

  a 64 gb phone, lots of memory free, so that also is not the problem.  
I have

  used the same wi-fi network to update my wife's iPhone 5S, and there 
were no

  problems whatsoever.  What might be the problem here?  When I got this

  phone, it was just after the release of Ios 10.  I then did a clean 
install,

  redownloaded the apps I needed from the app store, not using an old 
backup.

  So, short from setting it up as a new phone again, would there be 
something

  else that I could try?  It is also connected to power when I attempt 
this,

  so all those bases are covered.  Any help would be greatly 
appreciated.



  Jan Kleinhans



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Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thanks for that.  Yes, I have switched off the automatic updates for apps, 
rather doing that manually.

Jan

  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Richard McGann 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 3:04 PM
  Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1


  richard and jan, 

  remind you that if app store is made automatically for updating versions of 
any apps, I remind you that we never know when it is time to find new versions 
of apps being updated automatically. if it happens on air, that is it.

  I never expect that there are versions that could be upgraded automatically 
as after ios 9.2 and I got puzzled how all upgrading of any apps being 
automatically done. 

  sincerely, 
  rich 


  From: Richard Turner 
  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:34 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1


  I have not been following this thread. How much room do you have on the phone?
  Richard



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  (Sent from my iPod 6)

  On Oct 30, 2016, at 11:43 PM, Jan Kleinhans <jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net> wrote:


Hi

Thanks for all the suggestions.  Indeed wi-fi is working, cellular data is 
off, and the phone can pretty much be used for anything else but for updating.  
I will try some more during the day, before resetting the whole thing as a new 
phone, was hoping that would not be necessary.  Thanks all the same for helping.

Jan

- Original Message - From: "Shai" <shai...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1



  Hello Jan,

  It sounds to me like you have done all that you could do to try to get

  the phone updated. Just to confirm, does your phone state that it is

  connected to WiFI in the status bar at the top of the screen after

  resetting network settings? Are you able to launch and browse the

  Internet with Safari? You might want to try disabling cellular data

  and seeing if you could do the update this way. That way you are sure

  that WiFi is connected. You can turn off cellular data in

  settings/cellular.

  If you still receive the same message, you will  have to reset the

  phone as new again to get it to update to iOS10.1.





  On 10/30/16, Jan Kleinhans <jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

Hi all



Because of some problems with my computer which is not relevant here, I

tried updating my iPhone 6 to ios 10.1 over the air, but this seems to 
be a

problem.  I get to the point where it starts downloading the update, 
then

after about 5 minutes the message appears: "error downloading update" 
and I

then can close it or retry.  Now, I have tried numerous times, same 
thing

happening.  I have restarted the phone by switching it off, rebooting 
with

the multiple presses of the power button, I've reset the network 
settings,

no apps in the app switcher, but the same thing happens all the time.  
It is

a 64 gb phone, lots of memory free, so that also is not the problem.  I 
have

used the same wi-fi network to update my wife's iPhone 5S, and there 
were no

problems whatsoever.  What might be the problem here?  When I got this

phone, it was just after the release of Ios 10.  I then did a clean 
install,

redownloaded the apps I needed from the app store, not using an old 
backup.

So, short from setting it up as a new phone again, would there be 
something

else that I could try?  It is also connected to power when I attempt 
this,

so all those bases are covered.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.



Jan Kleinhans



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Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

It's a 64 gb phone, 50,5 gb left on the phone.

Jan

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:34 PM
  Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1




  I have not been following this thread. How much room do you have on the phone?
  Richard



  “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
  - Satsuki Shibuya




  (Sent from my iPod 6)

  On Oct 30, 2016, at 11:43 PM, Jan Kleinhans <jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net> wrote:


Hi

Thanks for all the suggestions.  Indeed wi-fi is working, cellular data is 
off, and the phone can pretty much be used for anything else but for updating.  
I will try some more during the day, before resetting the whole thing as a new 
phone, was hoping that would not be necessary.  Thanks all the same for helping.

Jan

- Original Message - From: "Shai" <shai...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1



  Hello Jan,

  It sounds to me like you have done all that you could do to try to get

  the phone updated. Just to confirm, does your phone state that it is

  connected to WiFI in the status bar at the top of the screen after

  resetting network settings? Are you able to launch and browse the

  Internet with Safari? You might want to try disabling cellular data

  and seeing if you could do the update this way. That way you are sure

  that WiFi is connected. You can turn off cellular data in

  settings/cellular.

  If you still receive the same message, you will  have to reset the

  phone as new again to get it to update to iOS10.1.





  On 10/30/16, Jan Kleinhans <jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

Hi all



Because of some problems with my computer which is not relevant here, I

tried updating my iPhone 6 to ios 10.1 over the air, but this seems to 
be a

problem.  I get to the point where it starts downloading the update, 
then

after about 5 minutes the message appears: "error downloading update" 
and I

then can close it or retry.  Now, I have tried numerous times, same 
thing

happening.  I have restarted the phone by switching it off, rebooting 
with

the multiple presses of the power button, I've reset the network 
settings,

no apps in the app switcher, but the same thing happens all the time.  
It is

a 64 gb phone, lots of memory free, so that also is not the problem.  I 
have

used the same wi-fi network to update my wife's iPhone 5S, and there 
were no

problems whatsoever.  What might be the problem here?  When I got this

phone, it was just after the release of Ios 10.  I then did a clean 
install,

redownloaded the apps I needed from the app store, not using an old 
backup.

So, short from setting it up as a new phone again, would there be 
something

else that I could try?  It is also connected to power when I attempt 
this,

so all those bases are covered.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.



Jan Kleinhans



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Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thanks, I certainly hope it is.  It was just strange that I could update my 
wife's iphone 5S with no problem.  I will try a few times again during today 
and see what happens.


Thanks much.

Jan

- Original Message - 
From: "Andy Baracco" <w...@socal.rr.com>

To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 3:42 AM
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1


This happened to me the other night, but after a few tries, the update 
took place. I think the problem might be on their end.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Shai

Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

Hello Jan,
It sounds to me like you have done all that you could do to try to get
the phone updated. Just to confirm, does your phone state that it is
connected to WiFI in the status bar at the top of the screen after
resetting network settings? Are you able to launch and browse the
Internet with Safari? You might want to try disabling cellular data
and seeing if you could do the update this way. That way you are sure
that WiFi is connected. You can turn off cellular data in
settings/cellular.
If you still receive the same message, you will  have to reset the
phone as new again to get it to update to iOS10.1.


On 10/30/16, Jan Kleinhans <jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

Hi all

Because of some problems with my computer which is not relevant here, I
tried updating my iPhone 6 to ios 10.1 over the air, but this seems to be 
a

problem.  I get to the point where it starts downloading the update, then
after about 5 minutes the message appears: "error downloading update" and 
I

then can close it or retry.  Now, I have tried numerous times, same thing
happening.  I have restarted the phone by switching it off, rebooting 
with
the multiple presses of the power button, I've reset the network 
settings,
no apps in the app switcher, but the same thing happens all the time.  It 
is
a 64 gb phone, lots of memory free, so that also is not the problem.  I 
have
used the same wi-fi network to update my wife's iPhone 5S, and there were 
no

problems whatsoever.  What might be the problem here?  When I got this
phone, it was just after the release of Ios 10.  I then did a clean 
install,
redownloaded the apps I needed from the app store, not using an old 
backup.
So, short from setting it up as a new phone again, would there be 
something
else that I could try?  It is also connected to power when I attempt 
this,

so all those bases are covered.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jan Kleinhans

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Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thanks for all the suggestions.  Indeed wi-fi is working, cellular data is 
off, and the phone can pretty much be used for anything else but for 
updating.  I will try some more during the day, before resetting the whole 
thing as a new phone, was hoping that would not be necessary.  Thanks all 
the same for helping.


Jan

- Original Message - 
From: "Shai" <shai...@gmail.com>

To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1



Hello Jan,
It sounds to me like you have done all that you could do to try to get
the phone updated. Just to confirm, does your phone state that it is
connected to WiFI in the status bar at the top of the screen after
resetting network settings? Are you able to launch and browse the
Internet with Safari? You might want to try disabling cellular data
and seeing if you could do the update this way. That way you are sure
that WiFi is connected. You can turn off cellular data in
settings/cellular.
If you still receive the same message, you will  have to reset the
phone as new again to get it to update to iOS10.1.


On 10/30/16, Jan Kleinhans <jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

Hi all

Because of some problems with my computer which is not relevant here, I
tried updating my iPhone 6 to ios 10.1 over the air, but this seems to be 
a

problem.  I get to the point where it starts downloading the update, then
after about 5 minutes the message appears: "error downloading update" and 
I

then can close it or retry.  Now, I have tried numerous times, same thing
happening.  I have restarted the phone by switching it off, rebooting 
with
the multiple presses of the power button, I've reset the network 
settings,
no apps in the app switcher, but the same thing happens all the time.  It 
is
a 64 gb phone, lots of memory free, so that also is not the problem.  I 
have
used the same wi-fi network to update my wife's iPhone 5S, and there were 
no

problems whatsoever.  What might be the problem here?  When I got this
phone, it was just after the release of Ios 10.  I then did a clean 
install,
redownloaded the apps I needed from the app store, not using an old 
backup.
So, short from setting it up as a new phone again, would there be 
something
else that I could try?  It is also connected to power when I attempt 
this,

so all those bases are covered.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jan Kleinhans

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Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi all

Because of some problems with my computer which is not relevant here, I tried 
updating my iPhone 6 to ios 10.1 over the air, but this seems to be a problem.  
I get to the point where it starts downloading the update, then after about 5 
minutes the message appears: "error downloading update" and I then can close it 
or retry.  Now, I have tried numerous times, same thing happening.  I have 
restarted the phone by switching it off, rebooting with the multiple presses of 
the power button, I've reset the network settings, no apps in the app switcher, 
but the same thing happens all the time.  It is a 64 gb phone, lots of memory 
free, so that also is not the problem.  I have used the same wi-fi network to 
update my wife's iPhone 5S, and there were no problems whatsoever.  What might 
be the problem here?  When I got this phone, it was just after the release of 
Ios 10.  I then did a clean install, redownloaded the apps I needed from the 
app store, not using an old backup.  So, short from setting it up as a new 
phone again, would there be something else that I could try?  It is also 
connected to power when I attempt this, so all those bases are covered.  Any 
help would be greatly appreciated.

Jan Kleinhans

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Re: Facetime audio calling with Ios 10.0.2

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thanks very much.  After scratching around some more I eventually did find it 
again.  Thanks all the same.

Jan

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 6:22 PM
  Subject: RE: Facetime audio calling with Ios 10.0.2


  Facetime Audio is now under “Call”

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jan Kleinhans
  Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2016 1:09 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Facetime audio calling with Ios 10.0.2

   

  Hi all

   

  Using an Iphone 6 with ios 10.0.2.  When I go to a contact to phone a friend 
using an iphone, I now only see facetime video calling.  When I choose the more 
options, I still only see the video call option.  Am I missing something here, 
or what must I do to be able to make the facetime audio call now?  In prior 
versions of ios there was a button clearly marked that way, making it possible 
to choose between video call and audio call for facetime.  What might I be 
overlooking here?  Any help appreciated.
  Jan Kleinhans

   


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Re: Facetime audio calling with Ios 10.0.2

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

No, I selected the contact, from the contacts app, then looking for 
facetime, only saw the facetime video option and no facetime audio button. 
Will have to look again, more carefully.  Thanks for helping.


Jan


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Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 10:50 AM
Subject: re: Facetime audio calling with Ios 10.0.2


Hi, Have you tried calling them through the facetime app? Or, messages, 
click the contact, more info, click their name, then scroll to face time 
audio, it's still there, but redesigned.


Sent from a BrailleNote

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From: "Jan Kleinhans" <jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 10:09:10 +0200
Subject: Facetime audio calling with Ios 10.0.2

Hi all

Using an Iphone 6 with ios 10.0.2.  When I go to a contact to phone a 
friend using an iphone, I now only see facetime video calling.  When I 
choose the more options, I still only see the video call option.  Am I 
missing something here, or what must I do to be able to make the facetime 
audio call now?  In prior versions of ios there was a button clearly 
marked that way, making it possible to choose between video call and audio 
call for facetime.  What might I be overlooking here?  Any help 
appreciated.

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Facetime audio calling with Ios 10.0.2

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi all

Using an Iphone 6 with ios 10.0.2.  When I go to a contact to phone a friend 
using an iphone, I now only see facetime video calling.  When I choose the more 
options, I still only see the video call option.  Am I missing something here, 
or what must I do to be able to make the facetime audio call now?  In prior 
versions of ios there was a button clearly marked that way, making it possible 
to choose between video call and audio call for facetime.  What might I be 
overlooking here?  Any help appreciated.
Jan Kleinhans

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Re: Ios and hidden numbers

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thanks for that.  Yes, I do use that feature, mainly over night time and so on, 
but this was just an interesting observation from wanting to use a spam blocker 
app.

Thanks all the same.

Jan

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  From: Chris Chaffin 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 4:35 PM
  Subject: Re: Ios and hidden numbers




  The only way you can definitely block unknown calls is by using the Do Not 
Disturb feature.
  There are a few other ways that you can find out there on the internet, but I 
have not been successful with any of them.


  *  Go to Settings / Do not disturb.
  * Swipe right and double tap on Manual, it is a toggle switch, and it is off 
by default, so you need to turn it on.
  * SWIPE until you hear, allow calls from, I think favorites is the default.  
This is a button, so double tap it.
  * Now swipe until you hear all contacts and double tap to select it.  Then 
swipe left back to the back button, you are all done.


  Now your phone will block any call that is from anyone that is not in your 
contacts.
  Now all calls will still show up in your list of recent calls so you can add 
them to your contacts if you want., and all calls will still be able to leave 
you a voice mail, but only calls that are from your contacts will make your 
phone ring.


  I wish Apple would add the feature so you could automatically block any call 
that was private or unknown.
  This would be very helpful.


  Chris



  On Sep 23, 2016, at 5:02 AM, Jan Kleinhans <jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net> wrote:


Hi all

The other day I was playing with an app, truecaller, which is suppose to be 
one of those apps that can block spam calls and also be used as a dialler, or 
contacts app.  Now, you can, on the android version, block the so-called hidden 
numbers, (private numbers) but on ios this is not possible.  The developers of 
that particular app wrote a bit stating that, due to restrictions by apple, 
hidden numbers can not be blocked by that app and then, I suppose, any other 
app doing this particular function.  Does anyone out there have any ideas on 
this, and why it would be impossible to block those numbers on ios platform 
then?  I remember having an old symbian phone, and an app called handy 
blacklist, and even with that I can block the "private" numbers.

Any ideas?  I find this rather an interesting situation, but a pity also 
that this seems to be impossible to achieve.

    Regards

    Jan Kleinhans

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Ios and hidden numbers

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi all

The other day I was playing with an app, truecaller, which is suppose to be one 
of those apps that can block spam calls and also be used as a dialler, or 
contacts app.  Now, you can, on the android version, block the so-called hidden 
numbers, (private numbers) but on ios this is not possible.  The developers of 
that particular app wrote a bit stating that, due to restrictions by apple, 
hidden numbers can not be blocked by that app and then, I suppose, any other 
app doing this particular function.  Does anyone out there have any ideas on 
this, and why it would be impossible to block those numbers on ios platform 
then?  I remember having an old symbian phone, and an app called handy 
blacklist, and even with that I can block the "private" numbers.

Any ideas?  I find this rather an interesting situation, but a pity also that 
this seems to be impossible to achieve.

Regards

Jan Kleinhans

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Re: iOS 10 Bug Report: Please Join Me in Sending This VoiceOver Bug Report to Apple Regarding the Phone App

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

No, I could find no way around this, thus this feature seems, in my humble 
opinion, rather useless.  Would be glad if someone can help me sort this one 
out, and if this is a bug, we need to report this.  If this is by design, 
then I would be rather taken aback, as it does make no sense to me at all.


Regards

Jan

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From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu>

To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 8:48 AM
Subject: RE: iOS 10 Bug Report: Please Join Me in Sending This VoiceOver Bug 
Report to Apple Regarding the Phone App



Hello Jan,

This is an excellent question.

Did you ever discover the answer?

I will post it on another list and see if an answer is forth coming.

Mark

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Of Jan Kleinhans

Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 10:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 10 Bug Report: Please Join Me in Sending This VoiceOver Bug 
Report to Apple Regarding the Phone App


Hi

On the topic of bugs in the favourites I have a question: I was trying to 
add contacts to the favourites, and it gives me things like "message work"
call work, and so on, after choosing a particular contact.  Now, the mobile 
numbers in my contact was not labelled that way, so how do you know which 
numbers are actually added to the favourites then?  I wanted to do this as 
to use the "do not disturb" option, but obviously I am not understanding 
favourites in the right way now.  Also, if I want to add more than 1 contact 
to the favourites tab, it seems as if I have to close the app completely, 
then go back in, and try to add the contact.  I select a particular contact, 
for the second one to be added, but the phone adds a completely different 
contact.  Using an Iphone 6 with ios 10.  Any clarification would be 
appreciated.


Jan

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To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: iOS 10 Bug Report: Please Join Me in Sending This VoiceOver Bug 
Report to Apple Regarding the Phone App




Mark, delete does work. You do not have to open "edit" to delete. Just
flick up or down to delete and double tap and it is gone. I do agree
about reordering. When i flick up the choices I see are more, delete
and activate. More only seems to let you get more information.about
that contact.
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Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:26 PM
Subject: iOS 10 Bug Report: Please Join Me in Sending This VoiceOver
Bug Report to Apple Regarding the Phone App



Hello Everyone,

Please join me in sending a VoiceOver feedback report to Apple
regarding the fact that VoiceOver users can no longer reorder
Contacts listed in the Favorites area of the Phone app.  Also, the
Delete buttons are no longer VoiceOver accessible.  Just so you know,
using the VoiceOver Rotor, one can delete a Contact from this list,
however the Delete button displayed to the left of each individual
Contact item is inaccessible.

I have already written the report so all you need to do is to paste
it into a new email, either in its entirety or modified as you see
fit.

[BEGIN REPORT]
Subject:  Reordering Favorite Contacts Control No Longer VoiceOver
Accessible in iOS 10.

In iOS 10, unlike in iOS 9.x, when VoiceOver is enabled, the user
cannot reorder Contacts in the Favorites area of the Phone app.

To reproduce this bug:

1.
Make certain that you have multiple Contacts selected as a Favorite.

2.
With VoiceOver enabled, open the Phone app.

3.
Select the Favorites Tab.

4.
Select the Edit button located near the upper right corner of the
display.

5.
Even though the reorder controls are visible on the display, they are
not VoiceOver accessible.  It should also be noted that the Delete
controls are also visible but are also inaccessible via VoiceOver.
[END REPORT]

Thank you,

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Re: iOS 10, iMessages and braille screen input question

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

I tried this on my iphone 6, writing a message to my wife, who also has an 
iphone, but I was not seeing this problem.  I could do the braille writing 
with no problem whatsoever.


Jan Kleinhans
- Original Message - 
From: "Robert Hill" <molliesda...@icloud.com>

To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: iOS 10, iMessages and braille screen input question



Hi Woody,

I have gone to the rotor, made sure handwriting is not selected.

After I select the recipient, I flick to the right with one finger, go 
past the digital touch button and find the message area.
I double tap witha single finger to make sure I have an edit field, then 
select braille screen input.
I turn my phone to landscape mode, and then hear "handwriting area"  (even 
though handwriting is not selected).


Sratching head.
Maybe I'll do a reset of the settings and start from scratch.
(I forgot to say I'm running an iPhone 6).

Bob Hill




Sent from Bob's Braille Sentce U2

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From: Woody Anna Dresner  <wadres...@att.net>
To:  viphone@googlegroups.com
CC:
Date: Monday, September 19, 2016 1:36 pm
Subject: Re: iOS 10, iMessages and braille screen input question




Hi Bob,

Make sure Handwriting isn't on. You should be able to have both on, but 
if you're not using it, maybe getting it out of the way will help. Go to 
Settings/General/Accessibility/VoiceOver/Rotor, and make sure Handwriting 
isn't selected.


Also, make sure you're in the message body, not digital touch.

I hope that helps. I routinely use onscreen braille input to write text 
messages, so it can definitely be done.


Best,
Anna


On Sep 19, 2016, at 12:24 PM, Robert Hill <molliesda...@icloud.com> 
wrote:


Hello all,

I have an issue when trying to compose an iMessage when attempting to use 
braille screen input.
After I select the recipient of my iMessage, I go to the body and use the 
rotor to move to braille screen input.
My phone says braille screen input, and I need to change to landscape to 
use BSI.
But then I hear about a handwriting area, and I can't use BSI, the area 
is all about handwriting.
If I flip my phone back to portrait mode, I can use the onscreen keyboard 
just fine.


Any suggestions for a work around?

Bob Hill


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Re: iOS 10 Bug Report: Please Join Me in Sending This VoiceOver Bug Report to Apple Regarding the Phone App

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

On the topic of bugs in the favourites I have a question: I was trying to 
add contacts to the favourites, and it gives me things like "message work" 
call work, and so on, after choosing a particular contact.  Now, the mobile 
numbers in my contact was not labelled that way, so how do you know which 
numbers are actually added to the favourites then?  I wanted to do this as 
to use the "do not disturb" option, but obviously I am not understanding 
favourites in the right way now.  Also, if I want to add more than 1 contact 
to the favourites tab, it seems as if I have to close the app completely, 
then go back in, and try to add the contact.  I select a particular contact, 
for the second one to be added, but the phone adds a completely different 
contact.  Using an Iphone 6 with ios 10.  Any clarification would be 
appreciated.


Jan

- Original Message - 
From: "Robert Doc Wright" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: iOS 10 Bug Report: Please Join Me in Sending This VoiceOver Bug 
Report to Apple Regarding the Phone App



Mark, delete does work. You do not have to open "edit" to delete. Just 
flick up or down to delete and double tap and it is gone. I do agree about 
reordering. When i flick up the choices I see are more, delete and 
activate. More only seems to let you get more information.about that 
contact.
- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:26 PM
Subject: iOS 10 Bug Report: Please Join Me in Sending This VoiceOver Bug 
Report to Apple Regarding the Phone App




Hello Everyone,

Please join me in sending a VoiceOver feedback report to Apple regarding 
the

fact that VoiceOver users can no longer reorder Contacts listed in the
Favorites area of the Phone app.  Also, the Delete buttons are no longer
VoiceOver accessible.  Just so you know, using the VoiceOver Rotor, one 
can
delete a Contact from this list, however the Delete button displayed to 
the

left of each individual Contact item is inaccessible.

I have already written the report so all you need to do is to paste it 
into

a new email, either in its entirety or modified as you see fit.

[BEGIN REPORT]
Subject:  Reordering Favorite Contacts Control No Longer VoiceOver
Accessible in iOS 10.

In iOS 10, unlike in iOS 9.x, when VoiceOver is enabled, the user cannot
reorder Contacts in the Favorites area of the Phone app.

To reproduce this bug:

1.
Make certain that you have multiple Contacts selected as a Favorite.

2.
With VoiceOver enabled, open the Phone app.

3.
Select the Favorites Tab.

4.
Select the Edit button located near the upper right corner of the 
display.


5.
Even though the reorder controls are visible on the display, they are not
VoiceOver accessible.  It should also be noted that the Delete controls 
are

also visible but are also inaccessible via VoiceOver.
[END REPORT]

Thank you,

Mark

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Re: moving apps

[Jan Kleinhans]

Thanks much, I do understand this better now.  It seems so much easier this 
way.  Thank you very much.

Jan

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mary Otten 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 5:03 PM
  Subject: Re: moving apps


  When you move an app and you place it either before or after another app, 
apps are going to move. But that's no different from how it used to be. It's 
just that the whole process is easier now. You can either flick two or explore 
to the app where you want to move your new app. Then the rotor options will let 
you make a folder with that app or place it before or after the app that you 
just focused on. Do not double tap on the app or the folder. Just focus on it 
and flick up and down through your rotor choices double tapping the one that 
you want.
  Mary



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  On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:59 AM, Jan Kleinhans <jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net> wrote:


Hi

Another question along these lines, can one indeed swipe across the apps to 
find the correct place to drop the app, or would one be moving everything 
around?  Someone mentioned that using explore by touch, one moves all the apps, 
so I wanted to be sure of that.  Thanks for all the helpful replies on the list.

    Jan Kleinhans

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  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 3:10 AM
  Subject: RE: moving apps


  The same way as always, use a 3-finger swipe or use the slider at the 
bottom and lick up/down.

  Only thing to remember is that if you are using the new functionality to 
move an app out of a folder you can't press the home button to get out of the 
folder after you marked the app you want to move since this will stop the 
process, you have to use the scrub gesture to close the folder, then go to 
where you want the app and drop it via one of the rotor options.




  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
  Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 5:25 PM
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  ow do you change pages with the new app movement feature?

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Re: moving apps

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Another question along these lines, can one indeed swipe across the apps to 
find the correct place to drop the app, or would one be moving everything 
around?  Someone mentioned that using explore by touch, one moves all the apps, 
so I wanted to be sure of that.  Thanks for all the helpful replies on the list.

Jan Kleinhans

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  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 3:10 AM
  Subject: RE: moving apps


  The same way as always, use a 3-finger swipe or use the slider at the bottom 
and lick up/down.

  Only thing to remember is that if you are using the new functionality to move 
an app out of a folder you can't press the home button to get out of the folder 
after you marked the app you want to move since this will stop the process, you 
have to use the scrub gesture to close the folder, then go to where you want 
the app and drop it via one of the rotor options.


   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
  Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 5:25 PM
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  ow do you change pages with the new app movement feature?

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Re: "Location tracking on" is back again

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

This might be one of the settings under system settings within location 
services.  There are things like cellular services wanting to use location 
services, wifi wanting to use this, traffic routing wanting to use it.  Might 
it have been one of those?

Jan Kleinhans
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  From: Donna 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 12:24 AM
  Subject: Re: "Location tracking on" is back again


  If you go to settings, privacy, location services you can turn off any of 
your apps that you don't to use your location. 


  Donna


No. Turning off location services means no apps ever get location 
information. That is not the way to go if you have GPS apps for instants or 
other applications, maybe a local news application or whatever, that need your 
location. Even the weather app needs your location. This was something probably 
under privacy.
Mary



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On Aug 27, 2016, at 2:47 PM, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:


  Hi, turn off location services?

  Sent from my iPhone 5S

  On 27 Aug 2016, at 5:16 pm, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:


Some months ago, I reported that I was having a problem with location 
tracking being on when it should not  be. That is, I wasn't using nor did I 
have running any app that had permission to use location services. Mark helpful 
he suggested some setting that I needed to change, which seemed to solve the 
problem. The problem is back with a vengeance. And I can't remember what the 
setting was. Can anyone refresh my memory?
Mary


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Re: bug in latest whatsapp app update

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

This is a pity though.  Please write the folks at whatsapp support, mentioning 
this, and let's see if they might fix this in a next update.

Jan Kleinhans
  - Original Message - 
  From: Afik Sofir 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 5:00 PM
  Subject: RE: bug in latest whatsapp app update


  Hi davy,

   

  Yes, you are correct,

   

  I'm do not know if it a whatsapp problem or voice over problem.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Davy Cuppens
  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 5:53 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: bug in latest whatsapp app update

   

  Hi folks 

   

  The progress bar of the time of duration for audio chat in whatsapp is 
nolonger accessible with voiceover. However, voiceover now immediately stops 
speaking when opening a voice chat but if you are used to use that progress bar 
and changing the position of time duration in the message, do not do the update 
then.

   

  Regards

  Davy 

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Problem sharing notes via whatsapp

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi all

Using an iPhone 5S and ios 9.3.1 and the very latest version of whatsapp.  I 
was trying to share a saved note via whatsapp.  Using the share option in the 
notes app, the option to share with whatsapp is indeed available, but when it 
comes to sending the actual note via whatsapp, the message "can not share this 
item" displays on the screen.  Now, I can share the note via e-mail and text 
message and so on.  My question is then: would this be some bug, either in 
whatsapp or notes may be, as I would have thought that the whatsapp option 
should not be available if the note can not be shared via whatsapp.  I have 
tried different ways with different notes, they are not protected in any way, 
and even if I write a new note manually on the keyboard the same thing happens. 
 Any ideas on what might be the problem here would be greatly appreciated.

Jan Kleinhans

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Re: accessible weather stations/iPhone apps?

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

I think the original question was about a weather station with an accessible 
app.  Netatmo weather station for the iPhone would be such a weather station.  
I think there might be some people on this list that actually use the netatmo 
stations that will be able to describe this in more detail, as I personally 
does not own one as yet.

Jan Kleinhans
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  From: Mike Cormier 
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  Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 10:27 PM
  Subject: Re: accessible weather stations/iPhone apps?


  Hi, the app is called WeatherOfficeFree and I use it and it works very well 
always accessible Mike

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Mar 3, 2016, at 3:50 AM, goshawk on horseback 
<goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:


thanks, but this does not seem to be an app to work with a weather station. 

Simon 


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  Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 11:48 AM
  Subject: Re: accessible weather stations/iPhone apps?


  Weather Office

  Later... 




  Robin

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  hello all, 
  I know this has been asked here before, but didn't take much notice at 
the time. 
  are there any good quality weather stations for the iPhone, and that have 
good voice-over accessible apps? 

  Simon 



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Re: Birthdays via the contacts and the calendar

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thank you for this info.  Well, point is that, if I entered the birthday via 
the contacts and it then display on the calendar, I never did get any 
notification, even if it was at 9 in the morning.  I will have to look if that 
notification setting is active or not.  I can somehow get to the setting where 
the whoe day setting can be changed, the hours will then display, but even 
double tapping the relevant hour. e.g. 7 o'clock, does actually not select that 
hour, nor is there a way to actually save that info, as the calendar only shows 
the add option, meaning add for a new entry, there is no "done" or something 
like that.  If one enters the whole entry from scratch in the calendar, one can 
change all those things, as, if I remember correctly, if you get to those 
settings, the notification seems to be off for an alert to happen, so I switch 
that on.  All this is, as far as I could tell, not available if you get to the 
calendar via the contacts app.  If you double tap the birthday again to edit 
it, you are actually back in the editing of the contact itself, with no 
calendar options to edit.  Thanks all the same, will look at that notification 
in the settings for the calendar.

Regards

Jan Kleinhans
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  From: Gordan Radić 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 4:28 PM
  Subject: Re: Birthdays via the contacts and the calendar


  Hi!
  I just checked my Calendar to reproduce what you are experiencing but I 
didn't even get to the event settings.
  But, the problem is the 'Whole day' setting. The calendar automatically 
treats the event as whole day so there's no need to adjust the time, hours, 
place etc, etc.
  If you want to change those things you first need to switch the event from 
Whole day and I believe you'll ge the access to the settings you need.
  If the event is set fot he whole day it automatically gets the default 
Calendar notification on 9 o'clock AM which can be changed in Settings, Mail, 
Calendar and Contacts section.
  HTH


  S poštovanjem
  Gordan Radić

  
  

  13.1.2016. u 14:06, Jan Kleinhans je napisao/la:

Hi all

Now, if I create a new contact and also put the birthday in, I do see that 
the birthday is also present on the calendar.  But here is where my problems 
start.  I should say that I might not be that proficient with the calendar, so 
I could be missing something.  If I add this birthday and go to the calendar, I 
can find the event, and it would show something like: "jan Kleinhans, birthday, 
all day."  Now, if I wanted to add a notification so that it would tell me on 
the day that it is the birthday, how do I do this?  I can somehow get to the 
point where you can move the event.  If I do that, I can see the hours, so I 
can move it to say 7 in the morning, but there seems to be no way to actually 
select that time, nor to switch on an alert for this event.  If I start the 
entry on the calendar by adding a new event, I can set all of this.  So, what 
would be the purpose thento add the birthday via the contact to the calendar if 
you can not set up the notification?  Yes, you can go into the calendar, and go 
to the date to see if there are events, but that's about all, unless I am 
missing something very obvious here.  I know one can set reminders via the 
reminders app, and using Siri and all of that, but at this stage that's not 
what I want to know, hoping that this might work in another way then?

Thank you for any clarification of this matter.

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Re: Birthdays via the contacts and the calendar

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

This does indeed help, I will then check that setting to see if it is on 
indeed, as this just did not seem to happen for me with events saved in that 
way.  I will try this.  Thanks very much.

Jan

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  From: Chris Chaffin 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 5:10 PM
  Subject: Re: Birthdays via the contacts and the calendar


  Hello,
  As long as you have the setting turned on, then you will get a notification 
for all day events.
  There is nothing you have to do in the calendar.


  Just go to settings, mail contacts calendar, then swipe down to the calendar 
section and double tap on Default Alerts.
  In here, swipe until you hear All Day Events and double tap.
  Now you can choose when you will receive your notification for all day events 
including Birthdays.  I have mine set for 9 AM on the day of the event.


  I hope this helps.


  Chris



  On Jan 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Jan Kleinhans <jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net> wrote:


Hi all

Now, if I create a new contact and also put the birthday in, I do see that 
the birthday is also present on the calendar.  But here is where my problems 
start.  I should say that I might not be that proficient with the calendar, so 
I could be missing something.  If I add this birthday and go to the calendar, I 
can find the event, and it would show something like: "jan Kleinhans, birthday, 
all day."  Now, if I wanted to add a notification so that it would tell me on 
the day that it is the birthday, how do I do this?  I can somehow get to the 
point where you can move the event.  If I do that, I can see the hours, so I 
can move it to say 7 in the morning, but there seems to be no way to actually 
select that time, nor to switch on an alert for this event.  If I start the 
entry on the calendar by adding a new event, I can set all of this.  So, what 
would be the purpose thento add the birthday via the contact to the calendar if 
you can not set up the notification?  Yes, you can go into the calendar, and go 
to the date to see if there are events, but that's about all, unless I am 
missing something very obvious here.  I know one can set reminders via the 
reminders app, and using Siri and all of that, but at this stage that's not 
what I want to know, hoping that this might work in another way then?

Thank you for any clarification of this matter.

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Birthdays via the contacts and the calendar

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi all

Now, if I create a new contact and also put the birthday in, I do see that the 
birthday is also present on the calendar.  But here is where my problems start. 
 I should say that I might not be that proficient with the calendar, so I could 
be missing something.  If I add this birthday and go to the calendar, I can 
find the event, and it would show something like: "jan Kleinhans, birthday, all 
day."  Now, if I wanted to add a notification so that it would tell me on the 
day that it is the birthday, how do I do this?  I can somehow get to the point 
where you can move the event.  If I do that, I can see the hours, so I can move 
it to say 7 in the morning, but there seems to be no way to actually select 
that time, nor to switch on an alert for this event.  If I start the entry on 
the calendar by adding a new event, I can set all of this.  So, what would be 
the purpose thento add the birthday via the contact to the calendar if you can 
not set up the notification?  Yes, you can go into the calendar, and go to the 
date to see if there are events, but that's about all, unless I am missing 
something very obvious here.  I know one can set reminders via the reminders 
app, and using Siri and all of that, but at this stage that's not what I want 
to know, hoping that this might work in another way then?

Thank you for any clarification of this matter.

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Birthdays in contacts and Siri

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

I haven't been using the feature a lot, adding birthdays to a contact.  The 
other day I tried this for the first time, and after doing so, I asked Siri 
when the person's birthday was.  To my surprise she could tell me when the 
birthday was, so I started adding more birthdays to my contact.  One strange 
thing though: I added the birthdays in such a way where I have the proper birth 
date of the person, e.g. 4 May 1956.  Asking Siri how old the person was, she 
could tell me the correct age, but asking her in what year the person was born, 
she did indeed not know the answer to that one.  Why would this be, as the 
birth date is in the contact, and she is actually calculating the correct age 
with that information?  It was also interesting to find that, if I only added a 
birthday to the calendar, not via the contacts, she did not find that birthday 
somehow.

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Re: An iPhone Without a Headphone Jack: The Accessibility Ramifications

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

And if I have to ever buy an adapter for the normal earphones my phone will 
then be bigger rather than smaller as seems to be the reason for wanting to get 
rid of the jack.

Jan Kleinhans
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  From: Daniel Miller 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 8:04 PM
  Subject: Re: An iPhone Without a Headphone Jack: The Accessibility 
Ramifications


  The jack is so archaic, but that’s just my opinion. Like I said in my 
previous post, the advancements that could come with a switch to the lightning 
port are enormous, but they could still offer an adaptor for people that want 
to use normal headphones.
  Lightning headphones are expensive, yes, but making a move right now gives 
people to adapt to change, since it’s inevitable anyway, so we might as well 
learn to adapt or stop complaining.


On Dec 10, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:


Precisely, they used to do these things, and consumer pressure caused a 
rethink and a move to the 3.5 standard headphone jack.

Jonathan Mosen
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  On 11/12/2015, at 6:39 AM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> 
wrote:


  I agree with you Daniel. Furthermore, back in the days of non-smart 
phones Nokia and possibly Ericsson as well  had their own idea of what a 
headphone jack should be and look like. 

10 dec. 2015 kl. 18:33 skrev Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com>:


Hi,


I’m sorry if this sounds rude, but why, exactly is everyone so bent out 
of shape about the no headphone jack rumor?
First off, we don’t even know if it’s going to happen, and second, if 
Apple were going to do something that drastic, they’d surely think about all 
possible scenarios before plunging ahead with such a move.
I personally would love to see a new approach to headphones, preferably 
one that provides for better audio quality than what the current jacks 
limitations due to it being analog can provide.


  On Dec 10, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:


  Hi Mary, AppleVis tend not to link to other sites within the blind 
community, so I suspect that if I tried, it would just be removed.
  But yes, their stoney silence on this is appalling.

  Jonathan Mosen
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  http://Mosen.org


On 11/12/2015, at 6:17 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:


Hi Jonathan,
I hope you have posted a link to this along with a summary perhaps, 
over at Apple vis. I think you are correct that Apple vis should wake up and 
take notice to this possible loss of a headphone jack. If this much of the 
mainstream press is paying attention, why aren't they?
Mary



Sent from my iPhone

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wrote:


  Hi everyone, since I posted the text of my blog entry last week, 
there's been some great discussion here about what the removal of the headphone 
jack would mean. I've also had a lot of private email and comments on this as 
well, and I know dozens of you have completed Apple's feedback form. So thanks 
for having your say.
  Thanks to all this feedback, I was able to write a new blog post 
that I think captures more of our concerns on this topic, and crystallises the 
issues better. It's really long so I won't paste it here, but if this topic 
interests you, you may like to take a look here.
  
http://mosen.org/index.php/an-iphone-without-a-headphone-jack-the-accessibility-ramifications/

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Vizsnap

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Hi all

I saw this app in the subject line being mentioned in the applevis latest 
additions to their ios apps.  This is suppose to be a camera app targeting 
blind users to make it a bit easier to take and manage photos with the iPhone.  
Has anybody out there used this app at all, and what are your experiences with 
this?  I tried it on my wife's iPhone 5S, but I could not get it to work.  It 
has some tabs at the bottom, one being the camera tab, and I was assuming from 
there you are suppose to take the pictures.  This tab would however not load in 
the end, and no buttons were then available to take any pictures and so on.  
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Fw: Vizsnap

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Hi

Hi all

My apologies if this forwarded message did indeed reach the list.  I have had 
no mail from the group where I saw my own mail, thus trying this again.

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Subject: Vizsnap


Hi all

I saw this app in the subject line being mentioned in the applevis latest 
additions to their ios apps.  This is suppose to be a camera app targeting 
blind users to make it a bit easier to take and manage photos with the iPhone.  
Has anybody out there used this app at all, and what are your experiences with 
this?  I tried it on my wife's iPhone 5S, but I could not get it to work.  It 
has some tabs at the bottom, one being the camera tab, and I was assuming from 
there you are suppose to take the pictures.  This tab would however not load in 
the end, and no buttons were then available to take any pictures and so on.  
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Re: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thanks much.  Yes, it still has ios 8.4.1 on it, and I am planning to update 
this over the weekend, and will then see what happens with the charger.  I will 
also try connecting it to the computer when I am doing the update, and will see 
if that makes any difference at all.

Thanks for helping.

Jan

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 4:56 PM
  Subject: RE: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector


  Hi Jan,

   

  What version of iOS is on this phone? If it is an older version, you could 
upgrade to iOS 9.1 and see if this makes a difference. If not I’d try both a 
different charger and a different cable, the problem could be with any of the 
involved products, the wall adapter, the cable or the phone. O f course it’s 
always best to first illuminate the easy stuff especially since a lot of people 
have iPhones one can usually find somebody who can lend an adapter or cable.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jan Kleinhans
  Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:06 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector

   

  Hi Sieghard

  Thanks for answering this.  It was indeed the wall charger, and I will see 
what will happen now after setting the phone up.  It makes no sense to me 
having the connector fit both ways, but the phone only wanting to charge one 
way.  The connector is not marked, so one would not have known that, and then I 
would have expected it to work like my older iphone 4s, where the cable only 
fits one way.  Thank you for clarifying this.

   

  Regards

   

  Jan

   

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 7:15 AM

Subject: RE: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector

 

I agree you should try a different cable and, if you were charging with the 
cable plugged into a laptop try a different USB port or, as Feliciano 
suggested, try the wall adapter.

I have, however, heard from a friend in Germany that his 5S charges with 
the cable plugged in either way, but he can only sync if he plugs it in a 
certain way. If I had been him and if this was consistant across cables, I 
would have returned the phone since to me this is a defect.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 8:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector

 

Hi,

this is not normal behavior. Are you using the Apple charging cable, if so 
it should charge no matter the position. Is this with the wall charger, I would 
try a hard reset and see if that gets it working A hard reset will not 
erase content or settings, simply refreshes the operating system. Hold the wake 
sleep button and home button for about 7 seconds to do a hard reset. Try 
another cable if you have a space, or better yet take it to apple if it is 
new... position. I have not had this problem using Apple and Amazon Basics 
cables.If the phone is in a case, try

Regards,

Feliciano

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On Nov 11, 2015, at 8:17 PM, Jan Kleinhans <jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

  Hi all

   

  My wife has obtained a new iphone 5s, and so we wanted to charge the 
phone for the very first time.  My understanding was that the connector could 
be plugged into the phone, no matter what side was up, meaning that it would go 
into the fitting of the phone regardless of which way around you connected it.  
Well, it indeed does fit no matter which way you turn the plug, but my problem: 
does it only charge going in a certain way, as when my sighted child got to the 
phone, he informed me that the phone was not charged.  I was astonished about 
this, so he turned the connector the other way, and sure enough, the phone is 
now charging.  Is this indeed the way it has to work, as one would have to mark 
the connector then, especially should you not get any voiceover speech for some 
reason when charging the phone?  I thought I read somewhere that it did not 
matter which way the connector was connected to the phone with the lightning 
cables provided, so is this understanding of mine wrong then?

   

  Any help greatly appreciated

   

      Jan Kleinhans

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Re: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

I certainly will try that, have found that to happen when using other equipment 
as well.  I sometimes have a way of forcing a thing to fit, and I am careful 
not to do that with the phone, as it is a delicate piece of equipment.  Will 
certainly give that a go.

Jan

  - Original Message - 
  From: Carol Pearson 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 3:44 PM
  Subject: Re: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector


  hi,

  For what it's worth, I had problems with mine. I don't know what the problems 
were, but think it was probably that you had to put the plug into the phone 
rather more definite later than I was doing. I do not see the problem now, so I 
think it must be a case of getting it bedded in. Worth a try! I went to the 
Apple Store with mine and, of course, they got it working straightaway. I had 
tried a number of times! Anyway now it is fine, so I suggest you have another 
go and make sure that plug is properly in


  I hope this might help! If it doesn't, of course, take the phone back!On 12 
Nov 2015, at 4:34 a.m., Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:


  Hi,
  this is not normal behavior. Are you using the Apple charging cable, if so it 
should charge no matter the position. Is this with the wall charger, I would 
try a hard reset and see if that gets it working A hard reset will not 
erase content or settings, simply refreshes the operating system. Hold the wake 
sleep button and home button for about 7 seconds to do a hard reset. Try 
another cable if you have a space, or better yet take it to apple if it is 
new... position. I have not had this problem using Apple and Amazon Basics 
cables.If the phone is in a case, try

  Regards,
  Feliciano
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  On Nov 11, 2015, at 8:17 PM, Jan Kleinhans <jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net> wrote:


Hi all

My wife has obtained a new iphone 5s, and so we wanted to charge the phone 
for the very first time.  My understanding was that the connector could be 
plugged into the phone, no matter what side was up, meaning that it would go 
into the fitting of the phone regardless of which way around you connected it.  
Well, it indeed does fit no matter which way you turn the plug, but my problem: 
does it only charge going in a certain way, as when my sighted child got to the 
phone, he informed me that the phone was not charged.  I was astonished about 
this, so he turned the connector the other way, and sure enough, the phone is 
now charging.  Is this indeed the way it has to work, as one would have to mark 
the connector then, especially should you not get any voiceover speech for some 
reason when charging the phone?  I thought I read somewhere that it did not 
matter which way the connector was connected to the phone with the lightning 
cables provided, so is this understanding of mine wrong then?

Any help greatly appreciated

Jan Kleinhans
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Re: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thanks for the suggestion.  No, it is indeed a brand new phone, so I would hope 
that the latter won't be true.  Will see what the phone does after updating it 
this weekend.  Here where I live in South Africa, East London being the city, 
we don't even have an apple store, so the phone goes back to the network 
carier, and I truely hope that won't be necessary.

Thanks all the same for the advice on the port.

Jan

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan Lemly 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 5:25 PM
  Subject: Re: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector


  The original post talking about the iPhone 5S only charging with the 
lightning connector turned one way said the phone was new. Was the phone a 
brand new device or was it only new to your household? If the latter and the 
phone was previously used by another, it is possible that some lint or other 
detritus has gotten into the lightning port on the phone and is affecting its 
charging. I've had this happen with both my previous iPhone 5 and my current 
iPhone 6 and when the port gets stuff in it, the results when plugging in a 
lightning cable are unpredictable. I've gotten unauthorized cable messages, 
charging only working when the cable is plugged a certain way, and the cable 
not staying connected until taking my phones to the apple store to have the 
port cleaned out. 


  I wanted to mention this in case it might be a possibility. 


  Good luck. 


  Alan Lemly 

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Nov 12, 2015, at 8:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:


Hi Jan,



What version of iOS is on this phone? If it is an older version, you could 
upgrade to iOS 9.1 and see if this makes a difference. If not I’d try both a 
different charger and a different cable, the problem could be with any of the 
involved products, the wall adapter, the cable or the phone. O f course it’s 
always best to first illuminate the easy stuff especially since a lot of people 
have iPhones one can usually find somebody who can lend an adapter or cable.





Regards,

Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Jan Kleinhans
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector



Hi Sieghard

Thanks for answering this.  It was indeed the wall charger, and I will see 
what will happen now after setting the phone up.  It makes no sense to me 
having the connector fit both ways, but the phone only wanting to charge one 
way.  The connector is not marked, so one would not have known that, and then I 
would have expected it to work like my older iphone 4s, where the cable only 
fits one way.  Thank you for clarifying this.



Regards



Jan



  - Original Message - 

  From: Sieghard Weitzel 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 7:15 AM

  Subject: RE: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector



  I agree you should try a different cable and, if you were charging with 
the cable plugged into a laptop try a different USB port or, as Feliciano 
suggested, try the wall adapter.

  I have, however, heard from a friend in Germany that his 5S charges with 
the cable plugged in either way, but he can only sync if he plugs it in a 
certain way. If I had been him and if this was consistant across cables, I 
would have returned the phone since to me this is a defect.





  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Feliciano Godoy
  Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 8:35 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector



  Hi,

  this is not normal behavior. Are you using the Apple charging cable, if 
so it should charge no matter the position. Is this with the wall charger, I 
would try a hard reset and see if that gets it working A hard reset will 
not erase content or settings, simply refreshes the operating system. Hold the 
wake sleep button and home button for about 7 seconds to do a hard reset. Try 
another cable if you have a space, or better yet take it to apple if it is 
new... position. I have not had this problem using Apple and Amazon Basics 
cables.If the phone is in a case, try

  Regards,

  Feliciano

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  On Nov 11, 2015, at 8:17 PM, Jan Kleinhans <jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net> 
wrote:

Hi all



My wife has obtained a new iphone 5s, and so we wanted to charge the 
phone for the very first time.  My understanding was that the connector could 
be plugged into the phone, no matter what side was up, meaning that it would go 
into the fitting of the phone regardless of which way around you connected it.  
Well, it indeed does fit no 

Re: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi Sieghard
Thanks for answering this.  It was indeed the wall charger, and I will see what 
will happen now after setting the phone up.  It makes no sense to me having the 
connector fit both ways, but the phone only wanting to charge one way.  The 
connector is not marked, so one would not have known that, and then I would 
have expected it to work like my older iphone 4s, where the cable only fits one 
way.  Thank you for clarifying this.

Regards

Jan

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 7:15 AM
  Subject: RE: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector


  I agree you should try a different cable and, if you were charging with the 
cable plugged into a laptop try a different USB port or, as Feliciano 
suggested, try the wall adapter.

  I have, however, heard from a friend in Germany that his 5S charges with the 
cable plugged in either way, but he can only sync if he plugs it in a certain 
way. If I had been him and if this was consistant across cables, I would have 
returned the phone since to me this is a defect.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
  Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 8:35 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector

   

  Hi,

  this is not normal behavior. Are you using the Apple charging cable, if so it 
should charge no matter the position. Is this with the wall charger, I would 
try a hard reset and see if that gets it working A hard reset will not 
erase content or settings, simply refreshes the operating system. Hold the wake 
sleep button and home button for about 7 seconds to do a hard reset. Try 
another cable if you have a space, or better yet take it to apple if it is 
new... position. I have not had this problem using Apple and Amazon Basics 
cables.If the phone is in a case, try

  Regards,

  Feliciano

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  On Nov 11, 2015, at 8:17 PM, Jan Kleinhans <jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

Hi all

 

My wife has obtained a new iphone 5s, and so we wanted to charge the phone 
for the very first time.  My understanding was that the connector could be 
plugged into the phone, no matter what side was up, meaning that it would go 
into the fitting of the phone regardless of which way around you connected it.  
Well, it indeed does fit no matter which way you turn the plug, but my problem: 
does it only charge going in a certain way, as when my sighted child got to the 
phone, he informed me that the phone was not charged.  I was astonished about 
this, so he turned the connector the other way, and sure enough, the phone is 
now charging.  Is this indeed the way it has to work, as one would have to mark 
the connector then, especially should you not get any voiceover speech for some 
reason when charging the phone?  I thought I read somewhere that it did not 
matter which way the connector was connected to the phone with the lightning 
cables provided, so is this understanding of mine wrong then?

 

Any help greatly appreciated

 

    Jan Kleinhans

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Re: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

It is indeed with the wall charger and the cable that comes with this.  The 
phone is not even set up as yet, this still has to happen.  I just charged it, 
so we could use it, and this is when it happened having to turn the connector 
around.  Thanks for answering this, as I did think that it should not matter 
which way the connector goes into the phone.

Regards

Jan

  - Original Message - 
  From: Feliciano Godoy 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 6:34 AM
  Subject: Re: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector


  Hi,
  this is not normal behavior. Are you using the Apple charging cable, if so it 
should charge no matter the position. Is this with the wall charger, I would 
try a hard reset and see if that gets it working A hard reset will not 
erase content or settings, simply refreshes the operating system. Hold the wake 
sleep button and home button for about 7 seconds to do a hard reset. Try 
another cable if you have a space, or better yet take it to apple if it is 
new... position. I have not had this problem using Apple and Amazon Basics 
cables.If the phone is in a case, try

  Regards,
  Feliciano
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  On Nov 11, 2015, at 8:17 PM, Jan Kleinhans <jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net> wrote:


Hi all

My wife has obtained a new iphone 5s, and so we wanted to charge the phone 
for the very first time.  My understanding was that the connector could be 
plugged into the phone, no matter what side was up, meaning that it would go 
into the fitting of the phone regardless of which way around you connected it.  
Well, it indeed does fit no matter which way you turn the plug, but my problem: 
does it only charge going in a certain way, as when my sighted child got to the 
phone, he informed me that the phone was not charged.  I was astonished about 
this, so he turned the connector the other way, and sure enough, the phone is 
now charging.  Is this indeed the way it has to work, as one would have to mark 
the connector then, especially should you not get any voiceover speech for some 
reason when charging the phone?  I thought I read somewhere that it did not 
matter which way the connector was connected to the phone with the lightning 
cables provided, so is this understanding of mine wrong then?

Any help greatly appreciated

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Iphone 5s and the lightning connector

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi all

My wife has obtained a new iphone 5s, and so we wanted to charge the phone for 
the very first time.  My understanding was that the connector could be plugged 
into the phone, no matter what side was up, meaning that it would go into the 
fitting of the phone regardless of which way around you connected it.  Well, it 
indeed does fit no matter which way you turn the plug, but my problem: does it 
only charge going in a certain way, as when my sighted child got to the phone, 
he informed me that the phone was not charged.  I was astonished about this, so 
he turned the connector the other way, and sure enough, the phone is now 
charging.  Is this indeed the way it has to work, as one would have to mark the 
connector then, especially should you not get any voiceover speech for some 
reason when charging the phone?  I thought I read somewhere that it did not 
matter which way the connector was connected to the phone with the lightning 
cables provided, so is this understanding of mine wrong then?

Any help greatly appreciated

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Re: Another Small Bug that May Be Related to the Loss of Automatic Time Announcement in iOS 9.1

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

I found a work around for the lick sound, at least it works for me on a 4S:
I went to settings, sounds, and then to the lock screen sound.  It was 
turned on, so I turned it off and back on again, went out of settings, and 
sure enough, the sound was back as before.  It might just work for others?


Jan Kleinhans
- Original Message - 
From: "Lois Butterfield" <lbutterfield...@gmail.com>

To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: Another Small Bug that May Be Related to the Loss of Automatic 
Time Announcement in iOS 9.1



There is no lock or unlock sound on my 6S.  I didn't even notice until you 
mentioned it.


Thanks,
Lois


-Original Message- 
From: joseph hudson

Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:26 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Subject: Re: Another Small Bug that May Be Related to the Loss of 
Automatic Time Announcement in iOS 9.1


Hello Mark, if any sound is gone at all from the unlock or lock sounds, 
it's the unlock sound the lock sound is still there on an iPhone 5S.

On Oct 22, 2015, at 10:17 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:

Hello All,

In addition to the fact that waking the phone up no longer causes the
current time to be automatically announced, by VoiceOver, there is now 
also

the loss of sound effect feedback when either locking or unlocking the
device.

I strongly suspect that the two issues are directly related.

Mark

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Re: Another Small Bug that May Be Related to the Loss of Automatic Time Announcement in iOS 9.1

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

I can indeed confirm this, using a 4S with ios 9.1.  That sound feedback 
often helped me if, for some reason, speech was not coming from the phone. 
I hope this will be fixed, even if it is a small thing.


Jan Kleinhans
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Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 5:17 AM
Subject: Another Small Bug that May Be Related to the Loss of Automatic Time 
Announcement in iOS 9.1




Hello All,

In addition to the fact that waking the phone up no longer causes the
current time to be automatically announced, by VoiceOver, there is now 
also

the loss of sound effect feedback when either locking or unlocking the
device.

I strongly suspect that the two issues are directly related.

Mark

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Re: Info under the battery setting on iphone 4s

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thanks for this.  I just seem to think I could see that before ios 9, and now 
it's
   gone.  Thanks for replying on this.

  Jan
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  From: Jeffrey Shockley 
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  Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 1:26 PM
  Subject: Re: Info under the battery setting on iphone 4s


  Hi,
  I’m seeing this too. I even see this under 9.0.2. Thought it was only me. 
LOL. :)
  Hope this helps,
  Jeffrey

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After updating my 4S to ios 9.0.1 I don't seem to see how much battery apps 
are using when looking under the battery section in settings.  Would this only 
be my 4S or are there others using the 4s that can tell me if it is the same 
for them?  Might I be missing something here?  I can see the other things like 
standby time and so on, but nothing about the list of apps and how much battery 
each app used.  Any info appreciated.

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Re: Info under the battery setting on iphone 4s

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Then we must have some sort of problem, as I can only see stand by and talk 
time, but no apps with their respective usage, and yet I could see this 
earlier.  How do you then select the period of time for the respective apps?  I 
am using 9.0.1 still, but have nothing of that on my screen.  I have restarted 
the phone and all that sort of thing but nothing has changed there.  So, it 
then seems like it might be a device spesific problem then?

Regards

Jan

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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 4:51 AM
  Subject: RE: Info under the battery setting on iphone 4s


  Hello,

  I use the 4S and I can see the battery usage and percentages used by various 
apps.  I can select either for the last 24 hours or for the last seven days.  I 
have noticed this nice feature only in iOS 9.x.  Was it available in earlier 
versions?  If it was, I never paid attention to it.

   

  Cheers,

  Cris

   

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Jeffrey Shockley
  Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 7:26 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Info under the battery setting on iphone 4s

   

  Hi,

  I’m seeing this too. I even see this under 9.0.2. Thought it was only me. 
LOL. :)

  Hope this helps,

  Jeffrey

On Sep 30, 2015, at 7:57 AM, Jan Kleinhans <jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

 

Hi all

After updating my 4S to ios 9.0.1 I don't seem to see how much battery apps 
are using when looking under the battery section in settings.  Would this only 
be my 4S or are there others using the 4s that can tell me if it is the same 
for them?  Might I be missing something here?  I can see the other things like 
standby time and so on, but nothing about the list of apps and how much battery 
each app used.  Any info appreciated.

 

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Re: New bug in 9.02 update typing echo seems to be broken

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thank you, I would have to be careful of this one then, and might hold off 
until such time it's sorted.  I still use an 4S, which might make the matter 
worse.


Thanks all the same.

Jan

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Subject: Re: New bug in 9.02 update typing echo seems to be broken


This is on the on screen keyboard.  It happens in multile apps.  I have an 
iphone 5c and use touch typing mode.


Sent from my iPhone

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Hi

If you talk about echo on the keyboard, is this the software keyboard or 
a hardware bluetooth keyboard?


Thanks

Jan Kleinhans
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Subject: New bug in 9.02 update typing echo seems to be broken


I would caution users from updating to the 9.02 update. It seems that 
the typing echo feature in voiceover is broken. I know longer get back 
when I am typing or reviewing text. This makes it very difficult to do 
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Re: New bug in 9.02 update typing echo seems to be broken

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Hi

If you talk about echo on the keyboard, is this the software keyboard or a 
hardware bluetooth keyboard?


Thanks

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Subject: New bug in 9.02 update typing echo seems to be broken


I would caution users from updating to the 9.02 update. It seems that the 
typing echo feature in voiceover is broken. I know longer get back when I 
am typing or reviewing text. This makes it very difficult to do anything 
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Blocking undisclosed numbers on a 4S

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

I guess the subject line asks the lot?  Is there a way to block this kind of 
numbers, where no number is shown?  I've tried this phoning my 4S from a number 
which did not show, and although I could see that it was undisclosed, I could 
find no way to block it, going into "info" did not work either, or does this 
only work where a number is actually present?

Thanks for any suggestions or help with this.

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Info under the battery setting on iphone 4s

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi all
After updating my 4S to ios 9.0.1 I don't seem to see how much battery apps are 
using when looking under the battery section in settings.  Would this only be 
my 4S or are there others using the 4s that can tell me if it is the same for 
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Re: Problem downloading u.k. english voice on a 4S

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thanks much.  I actually did eventually reset the phone, and it came right, so 
I am happy.  Thanks for all the help with this.

Jan

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  Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 8:07 PM
  Subject: Re: Problem downloading u.k. english voice on a 4S


  Also if that doesn't work, maybe a reset of network settings might do the 
trick. You'll need your wifi password but resetting network settings often 
fixes these kinds of things.


  Shawn
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Hi

Thank you very much for the suggestion, I did not think I could just delete 
the voice somehow, but will certainly try that then.

Thanks for helping out with this.

Jan 
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  Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 4:11 PM
  Subject: Re: Problem downloading u.k. english voice on a 4S


  Hi if you want to remove the enhanced quality voice and reinstall it try 
this.  
  First go to settings.  
  Then go to general. 
  Then go to accessibility.  
  Then go to voiceover. 
  Then go to speech. 
  Then go to default dialect. 
  Then swipe to the voice you want to delete and then swipe to the enhanced 
quality button and then swipe down to delete and then double tap. 
  Then from that point it should say enhanced quality download. 
  You should then be able to redownload the enhanced quality voice.  
  Try that and see if that works.  

  Sent from my iPhone

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Hi

Yes, indeed, wifi is running.  Thanks.

Jan

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  Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:47 PM
  Subject: Re: Problem downloading u.k. english voice on a 4S


  Hi. I don't know if you said this but are you connected to wifi when 
you try to download the voice? The voice won't continue downloading unless 
you're connected to wifi. 


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Hi

I had to restore my 4S and updated the software to 8.4.1, then 
restoring from a prior backup.  Now, I like to use the u.k. enhanced voice, but 
after the restore I have some problems with this.  The voice does not sound the 
same, and when I look at the settings, I hear that 68 mb of 156 mb has been 
downloaded.  No matter what I do, I can not get the download to continue, and I 
have no idea if there is a way one could remove the voice and somehow restart 
the download again.  It seems as if the phone is now stuck in this mode.  I 
really need to get a new phone, as this one is old, but finance is a problem 
right now.  To make it even more difficult, my lock/sleep button does not 
function properly, it seems the little spring has gone, so I can not really 
switch the phone off and on, to try and reset it in that way, and the only way 
to reset it now seems to be via itunes and a restore option.  Any help on what 
I could do would be appreciated.  Where I live there is no apple store, and in 
the end the phone will have to be sent somewhere to have the button repaired at 
least.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Problem downloading u.k. english voice on a 4S

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thank you very much for the suggestion, I did not think I could just delete the 
voice somehow, but will certainly try that then.

Thanks for helping out with this.

Jan 
  - Original Message - 
  From: hebertisaa...@gmail.com 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 4:11 PM
  Subject: Re: Problem downloading u.k. english voice on a 4S


  Hi if you want to remove the enhanced quality voice and reinstall it try 
this.  
  First go to settings.  
  Then go to general. 
  Then go to accessibility.  
  Then go to voiceover. 
  Then go to speech. 
  Then go to default dialect. 
  Then swipe to the voice you want to delete and then swipe to the enhanced 
quality button and then swipe down to delete and then double tap. 
  Then from that point it should say enhanced quality download. 
  You should then be able to redownload the enhanced quality voice.  
  Try that and see if that works.  

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Aug 18, 2015, at 11:08 PM, Jan Kleinhans jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net wrote:


Hi

Yes, indeed, wifi is running.  Thanks.

Jan

  - Original Message - 
  From: Shawn Krasniuk 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:47 PM
  Subject: Re: Problem downloading u.k. english voice on a 4S


  Hi. I don't know if you said this but are you connected to wifi when you 
try to download the voice? The voice won't continue downloading unless you're 
connected to wifi. 


  Shawn
  Sent From My White MacBook
  Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
  Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
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On Aug 18, 2015, at 10:30 AM, Jan Kleinhans jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net 
wrote:


Hi

I had to restore my 4S and updated the software to 8.4.1, then 
restoring from a prior backup.  Now, I like to use the u.k. enhanced voice, but 
after the restore I have some problems with this.  The voice does not sound the 
same, and when I look at the settings, I hear that 68 mb of 156 mb has been 
downloaded.  No matter what I do, I can not get the download to continue, and I 
have no idea if there is a way one could remove the voice and somehow restart 
the download again.  It seems as if the phone is now stuck in this mode.  I 
really need to get a new phone, as this one is old, but finance is a problem 
right now.  To make it even more difficult, my lock/sleep button does not 
function properly, it seems the little spring has gone, so I can not really 
switch the phone off and on, to try and reset it in that way, and the only way 
to reset it now seems to be via itunes and a restore option.  Any help on what 
I could do would be appreciated.  Where I live there is no apple store, and in 
the end the phone will have to be sent somewhere to have the button repaired at 
least.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Problem downloading u.k. english voice on a 4S

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Yes, indeed, wifi is running.  Thanks.

Jan

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  From: Shawn Krasniuk 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:47 PM
  Subject: Re: Problem downloading u.k. english voice on a 4S


  Hi. I don't know if you said this but are you connected to wifi when you try 
to download the voice? The voice won't continue downloading unless you're 
connected to wifi.


  Shawn
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On Aug 18, 2015, at 10:30 AM, Jan Kleinhans jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net 
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Hi

I had to restore my 4S and updated the software to 8.4.1, then restoring 
from a prior backup.  Now, I like to use the u.k. enhanced voice, but after the 
restore I have some problems with this.  The voice does not sound the same, and 
when I look at the settings, I hear that 68 mb of 156 mb has been downloaded.  
No matter what I do, I can not get the download to continue, and I have no idea 
if there is a way one could remove the voice and somehow restart the download 
again.  It seems as if the phone is now stuck in this mode.  I really need to 
get a new phone, as this one is old, but finance is a problem right now.  To 
make it even more difficult, my lock/sleep button does not function properly, 
it seems the little spring has gone, so I can not really switch the phone off 
and on, to try and reset it in that way, and the only way to reset it now seems 
to be via itunes and a restore option.  Any help on what I could do would be 
appreciated.  Where I live there is no apple store, and in the end the phone 
will have to be sent somewhere to have the button repaired at least.

Thanks in advance.

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Problem downloading u.k. english voice on a 4S

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

I had to restore my 4S and updated the software to 8.4.1, then restoring from a 
prior backup.  Now, I like to use the u.k. enhanced voice, but after the 
restore I have some problems with this.  The voice does not sound the same, and 
when I look at the settings, I hear that 68 mb of 156 mb has been downloaded.  
No matter what I do, I can not get the download to continue, and I have no idea 
if there is a way one could remove the voice and somehow restart the download 
again.  It seems as if the phone is now stuck in this mode.  I really need to 
get a new phone, as this one is old, but finance is a problem right now.  To 
make it even more difficult, my lock/sleep button does not function properly, 
it seems the little spring has gone, so I can not really switch the phone off 
and on, to try and reset it in that way, and the only way to reset it now seems 
to be via itunes and a restore option.  Any help on what I could do would be 
appreciated.  Where I live there is no apple store, and in the end the phone 
will have to be sent somewhere to have the button repaired at least.

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Re: Sharing contacts

[Jan Kleinhans]

Thanks for that.  Hmmm, so I wonder what's up with my 4S then, as those 
messages keep on failing?  Thanks all the same.

Jan

  - Original Message - 
  From: Woody Anna Dresner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 5:29 PM
  Subject: Re: Sharing contacts


  Hi Jan,


  I have sent my husband a contact successfully, and he has an Android phone, 
so the other phone doesn't have to be an iPhone.


  Best,
  Anna






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Hi all

Is it indeed possible to share a contact from my iPhone 4S via messaging to 
phones on a different platform?  I can find the options to share via email, 
messaging and so on.  So, I choose to share a relevant contact via text 
message, and my wife has an older nokia phone.  When I send the message, I 
receive a message failure notifications in the text messaging app, and then the 
contact is not shared at all.  Is this normal, and does this mean that you can 
only share via messaging to another apple device then?  Any help appreciated.

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Whatsapp 12.2.5 on a 4s with some problems

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi
Is anybody out there using whatsapp, and if so, I am looking for some help.  I 
have updated to the newest version of the app, after the what's new section 
even boasted with voice over improvements.  Now, if I am within a chat and 
should there be more than 1 message, I always use to double tap the edit 
button, then double tapped a particular message within the chat, and could then 
either forward or delete it and so on.  The edit button within the chat seems 
to be removed, and nothing I try will select a particular message within the 
chat so one can forward or delete and so on.  I have tried tapping and holding 
the message, and various sorts of things to be able to interact with the 
message, but nothing is working.  One can delete the chat from the main chat 
screen, and you can forward the whole chat via email and also archive, but 
individual message inside the chat can not be deleted or shared in any way.  Am 
I missing something here that might have changed, or might it now be that they 
actually broke the app?  Prior versions were working quite well.  I have 
written to their support about this, and still am waiting for an answer.  Any 
help greatly appreciated.

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Sharing contacts

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi all

Is it indeed possible to share a contact from my iPhone 4S via messaging to 
phones on a different platform?  I can find the options to share via email, 
messaging and so on.  So, I choose to share a relevant contact via text 
message, and my wife has an older nokia phone.  When I send the message, I 
receive a message failure notifications in the text messaging app, and then the 
contact is not shared at all.  Is this normal, and does this mean that you can 
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Re: Using navigon with Siri

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Hi

Thanks for the suggestion.  I've been playing around a bit.  Firstly, I went to 
that edit box, then I pressed the home button to speak to Siri.  It will then 
find the info, but not via navigon.  Next, I tried the dictation feature, being 
in the edit field, and then activating dictation and speak the address.  Now, 
the info would be entered into the field, and could then tap on search, and 
navigate to that address.  I guess I did not think of the normal dictation 
function on the keyboard as being part of Siri's work.  That seems for me the 
only way it works, unless I am missing something.  Thanks for helping.

Regards

Jan

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  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 7:19 AM
  Subject: Re: Using navigon with Siri


  What the Navigon what's new section said was: Just type in POI names, 
addresses or - even better - use SIRI for speech input..
  I think in that context, they meant you have to be in the search box and 
instead of typing in the one line search, you would dictate it with Siri.
  HTH,
  Richard







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Hi all

There was a update to the navigon gps app, and under the what's new 
section it stated that this app could now be used with Siri to find an address. 
 Well, I don't seem to know how to achieve this.  I can ask Siri to open 
Navigon, which will happen.  If I then ask Siri for an address, apple maps will 
come up with the necessary information, like it used to happen before.  What am 
I missing here?  Any help appreciated.

Regards

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Using navigon with Siri

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Hi all

There was a update to the navigon gps app, and under the what's new section 
it stated that this app could now be used with Siri to find an address.  Well, 
I don't seem to know how to achieve this.  I can ask Siri to open Navigon, 
which will happen.  If I then ask Siri for an address, apple maps will come up 
with the necessary information, like it used to happen before.  What am I 
missing here?  Any help appreciated.

Regards

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Opting out of apple music after end of trial question?

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

The subject says it all really.  When I activated the trial period, it informed 
me that, and this is the part I missed somehow, if automatic update is not 
turned off in your music account, you will go on and of course pay the 
subscription.  I could not find any way in my account where you could choose to 
opt out should you want to do so after the trial period.  What should I be 
looking for when the time comes for that?  It was rather strange that you had 
to choose a plan in any event, even after activating the free trial button, and 
that confused me some what.  Any help appreciated with this.

Jan Kleinhans

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Re: Opting out of apple music after end of trial question?

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thank you for that, I will have a look out for that mail then.

Jan

  - Original Message - 
  From: Donna 
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  Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 7:12 PM
  Subject: Re: Opting out of apple music after end of trial question?


  Apple sent me a confirmation email, like the receipts that are sent app 
purchases. At the bottom of the email is a link to opt after the 3 month trial. 


  Donna

  On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:49 PM, Jan Kleinhans jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net wrote:


Hi

The subject says it all really.  When I activated the trial period, it 
informed me that, and this is the part I missed somehow, if automatic update is 
not turned off in your music account, you will go on and of course pay the 
subscription.  I could not find any way in my account where you could choose to 
opt out should you want to do so after the trial period.  What should I be 
looking for when the time comes for that?  It was rather strange that you had 
to choose a plan in any event, even after activating the free trial button, and 
that confused me some what.  Any help appreciated with this.

Jan Kleinhans

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Re: Opting out of apple music after end of trial question?

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thank you for clarifying this.  It does bring some peace of mind should I want 
to end this.

Regards

Jan Kleinhans
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  From: Grant 
  To: Viphone List 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 7:17 PM
  Subject: Re: Opting out of apple music after end of trial question?


  It is in the iTunes and App Store section in the settings app. Double-tap on 
your Apple ID, and select “view account”. Confirm your password, then on the 
page that appears, find and double-tap on “subscriptions”. You will now be in a 
screen that lists all recurring subscriptions charged by the iTunes Store. One 
of those will be Apple Music. If you double-tap on that subscription, you will 
be on a page that has a checkbox controlling auto-renewal. If you uncheck that 
box and save your changes (I think you select a “done” button), you should be 
good to go.


  Grant 


  On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Jan Kleinhans jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net wrote:


  Hi

  The subject says it all really.  When I activated the trial period, it 
informed me that, and this is the part I missed somehow, if automatic update is 
not turned off in your music account, you will go on and of course pay the 
subscription.  I could not find any way in my account where you could choose to 
opt out should you want to do so after the trial period.  What should I be 
looking for when the time comes for that?  It was rather strange that you had 
to choose a plan in any event, even after activating the free trial button, and 
that confused me some what.  Any help appreciated with this.

  Jan Kleinhans


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On the subject of Zello

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi all

I am curious to know who might be using Zello with success on their idevices.  
I have started to use it, and for the most I can do the basic things.  I am 
wondering about one particular function though.  There is suppose to be a 
solo mode, which you use when you have multiple channels connected in Zello.  
If one use the solo mode, you won't hear any conversations happening on your 
other connected channels.  I don't seem to find that particular solo slider, 
and to achieve the same result, I have to disconnect all the other channels 
first before using a channel of my own with no interfering speech happening.  
Does anybody know you one gets access to that solo slider, or is it not 
accessible using voiceover?  Any help would be appreciated.

Regards

Jan Kleinhans

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Re: Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thank you very much, lots of logic in this reply.  I will certainly pass 
this on, and my friend can now try this.  It is certainly better to be safe 
than sorry later on.


Regards

Jan

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From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 5:38 AM
Subject: RE: Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3


Hi Jan,

Force quitting all apps and either restarting your phone or doing a Reset 
Network Settings which will also restart your phone in the process are 
preliminary steps to upgrading to a new version of iOS. Many people say that 
is not necessary to even close all apps let alone restart the phone or do a 
Reset all network settings, but while it may not be necessary in many cases, 
things can go wrong during an upgrade and many experienced iPhone people 
have found that it is less likely something will go wrong if you do these 
few simple preparations.


Keep in mind that if you reset network settings you will have to reconnect 
to your WiFi and most likely be asked for your WiFi password after you 
reboot the phone. This of course is necessary for an over the air update 
since usually the files are too large to go over 3G or LTE.


Like I said, if you want to run the least risk when doing an over the air 
upgrade, then do a backup either to iCloud or via iTunes, then orce quit all 
apps and restart your phone or to be totally safe, go to Settings, General, 
Reset and Reset All Network Settings. Let the phone reboot, reconnect to 
your WiFi, then to the update.



Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Jan Kleinhans

Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 8:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3

Hi

But, if you restart the phone, by shutting it down, all data connections
will be terminated?

Thanks

Jan

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From: Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3


Sieghard,

In addition to force quitting all the aps, the friend should also
re-set the network settings in the event the phone is stuck on a data
connection.

Kelly




On 5/27/15, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Yes, upgrading via iTunes is always a good option and one I often prefer
as
I get more feedback as to where the upgrade process is at.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jan Kleinhans
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 8:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3



Hi



Thank you for this.  He has 8.2, (if I remember correctly), but can
certainly try that.  I suggested further that itunes might be his friend
also.  Thanks for all the help in this regard, we can try this.



Regards



Jan



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From: Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca

To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 5:05 PM

Subject: RE: Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3



Hi Jan,



This may be a focus issue, in older versions of iOS sometimes buttons
which
Voiceover read were not visually on the screen because they were on page 2
or further. In order to fix this, make sure you do a 3-finger swipe up
until
you get to whatever is the last page of the information, in this case the
terms and conditions or whatever. Then find the Agree button again and
double tap it. I believe you may also be able to do a 4-finger tap to move
to the very end of the information which may land you on the Disagree
button, try to swipe left once and double tap.





Regards,

Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jan Kleinhans
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 1:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3



Hi



I wanted to help a friend of mine to upgrade his 5s to ios 8.3.  The
update
showed up in the normal way, and all the agree and disagree buttons came
along, but at the very last button you have to agree or disagree to, the
phone will not respond to those buttons.  I double tapped on both the
buttons, nothing happening.  We restarted the phone, closed all apps out
of
the app switcher, and every time the results are the same.  I did not
connect it to itunes on my machine, wanted to do it over the air.  Any
ideas
as to why the phone might not want to respond to those buttons?  Result of
all that is that the upgrade can not be performed.  Any help will be
greatly
appreciated.



Regards



Jan Kleinhans

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Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

I wanted to help a friend of mine to upgrade his 5s to ios 8.3.  The update 
showed up in the normal way, and all the agree and disagree buttons came along, 
but at the very last button you have to agree or disagree to, the phone will 
not respond to those buttons.  I double tapped on both the buttons, nothing 
happening.  We restarted the phone, closed all apps out of the app switcher, 
and every time the results are the same.  I did not connect it to itunes on my 
machine, wanted to do it over the air.  Any ideas as to why the phone might not 
want to respond to those buttons?  Result of all that is that the upgrade can 
not be performed.  Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Jan Kleinhans

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Re: Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thanks for suggestion.  I do have wifi, was connected and connected to charger 
as well, with no difference.

Regards

Jan

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  From: Alexander Masic/Surgubben 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 11:00 AM
  Subject: Re: Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3


  Maybe your mobile carrier don't allow that bigg files.. some have 
restrictions. so make shure that you are conected by wifi and the battery are 
charged. that is the ideas i have for you.  



  Jan Kleinhans skrev den 15-05-27 10:45:

Hi

I wanted to help a friend of mine to upgrade his 5s to ios 8.3.  The update 
showed up in the normal way, and all the agree and disagree buttons came along, 
but at the very last button you have to agree or disagree to, the phone will 
not respond to those buttons.  I double tapped on both the buttons, nothing 
happening.  We restarted the phone, closed all apps out of the app switcher, 
and every time the results are the same.  I did not connect it to itunes on my 
machine, wanted to do it over the air.  Any ideas as to why the phone might not 
want to respond to those buttons?  Result of all that is that the upgrade can 
not be performed.  Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Jan Kleinhans
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Re: Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Will tell him to do that, thank you.

Jan

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  From: Alan J Paganelli 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 4:24 PM
  Subject: Re: Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3


  Try resetting the iPhone first by holding down the home and power buttons for 
10 seconds.  Then try it again it should then work as advertised.


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  From: Jan Kleinhans 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 1:45 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3

  Hi

  I wanted to help a friend of mine to upgrade his 5s to ios 8.3.  The update 
showed up in the normal way, and all the agree and disagree buttons came along, 
but at the very last button you have to agree or disagree to, the phone will 
not respond to those buttons.  I double tapped on both the buttons, nothing 
happening.  We restarted the phone, closed all apps out of the app switcher, 
and every time the results are the same.  I did not connect it to itunes on my 
machine, wanted to do it over the air.  Any ideas as to why the phone might not 
want to respond to those buttons?  Result of all that is that the upgrade can 
not be performed.  Any help will be greatly appreciated.

  Regards

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Re: Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thank you.  No, no restrictions, I was able to update my own device with no 
problems.  He has  a 64 gig phone, only 2 home pages with apps, so space 
there's enough.  I will tell him to reset to factory defaults, hoping to solve 
the problem.

Thank you for helping.

Jan

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alexander Masic/Surgubben 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 12:30 PM
  Subject: Re: Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3


  And you are shure that there is not have been sett restrictions in your 
wifi-router?
  The if that is ok. the last advice i can give you, reset the device to 
factory default, make the upgrade and restore the backup you hopefully have 
done.
  Just to be shure, the upgrade have never been downloaded to that device or? 
It is a quite large file, maybe the problem is that there is short of memoryso 
try to uninstall a few apps wich maybe is to large and se what happends. Thats 
the suggest i have.   



  Jan Kleinhans skrev den 15-05-27 12:10:

Hi

Thanks for suggestion.  I do have wifi, was connected and connected to 
charger as well, with no difference.

Regards

Jan

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  From: Alexander Masic/Surgubben 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 11:00 AM
  Subject: Re: Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3


  Maybe your mobile carrier don't allow that bigg files.. some have 
restrictions. so make shure that you are conected by wifi and the battery are 
charged. that is the ideas i have for you.  



  Jan Kleinhans skrev den 15-05-27 10:45:

Hi

I wanted to help a friend of mine to upgrade his 5s to ios 8.3.  The 
update showed up in the normal way, and all the agree and disagree buttons came 
along, but at the very last button you have to agree or disagree to, the phone 
will not respond to those buttons.  I double tapped on both the buttons, 
nothing happening.  We restarted the phone, closed all apps out of the app 
switcher, and every time the results are the same.  I did not connect it to 
itunes on my machine, wanted to do it over the air.  Any ideas as to why the 
phone might not want to respond to those buttons?  Result of all that is that 
the upgrade can not be performed.  Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Jan Kleinhans
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Re: Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thank you for this.  He has 8.2, (if I remember correctly), but can certainly 
try that.  I suggested further that itunes might be his friend also.  Thanks 
for all the help in this regard, we can try this.

Regards

Jan

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  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 5:05 PM
  Subject: RE: Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3


  Hi Jan,

   

  This may be a focus issue, in older versions of iOS sometimes buttons which 
Voiceover read were not visually on the screen because they were on page 2 or 
further. In order to fix this, make sure you do a 3-finger swipe up until you 
get to whatever is the last page of the information, in this case the terms and 
conditions or whatever. Then find the Agree button again and double tap it. I 
believe you may also be able to do a 4-finger tap to move to the very end of 
the information which may land you on the Disagree button, try to swipe left 
once and double tap.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jan Kleinhans
  Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 1:46 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3

   

  Hi

   

  I wanted to help a friend of mine to upgrade his 5s to ios 8.3.  The update 
showed up in the normal way, and all the agree and disagree buttons came along, 
but at the very last button you have to agree or disagree to, the phone will 
not respond to those buttons.  I double tapped on both the buttons, nothing 
happening.  We restarted the phone, closed all apps out of the app switcher, 
and every time the results are the same.  I did not connect it to itunes on my 
machine, wanted to do it over the air.  Any ideas as to why the phone might not 
want to respond to those buttons?  Result of all that is that the upgrade can 
not be performed.  Any help will be greatly appreciated.

   

  Regards

   

  Jan Kleinhans

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Re: Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thank you very much.  Yes, ideed, at least the last 2 things I did do, that's 
to say, we restarted the phone, and also closed all apps out from the app 
switcher.  I will certainly try swiping through all the pages and trying, and 
yes, fortunately there is some sighted help around, so that option can be 
indeed utilised.  

Regards and thanks for all the help.

Jan

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  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 5:12 PM
  Subject: RE: Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3


  Guys, don’t be so fast suggesting such drastic measures like a total reset of 
the phone. If this is a problem with Voiceover focus then this would cause a 
lot of work and have no result. Jan, I replied in another message that often 
such static information on the screen is across multiple pages visually and a 
sighted person has to scroll down through that text to the last page before the 
Agree and Disagree buttons become visible and available to tap. Voiceover may 
read the entire text and get to the buttons but visually still the first screen 
of text is on the screen. As I said before, try a 3-finger swipe up on the 
screen to go from page 1 to page 2 and repeat until you get to the last page, 
then try the Agree button again. If that doesn’t work I would probably simply 
ask a sighted person to do this before I’d go through the trouble of wiping my 
device.

   

  Also, it is a good idea to make sure all apps are closed from the app 
switcher and to at least do a reboot of the phone, i.e. turn it off completely, 
wait 30 seconds or so and then turn it back on.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jan Kleinhans
  Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 7:52 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3

   

  Hi

   

  Will tell him to do that, thank you.

   

  Jan

   

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 4:24 PM

Subject: Re: Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3

 

Try resetting the iPhone first by holding down the home and power buttons 
for 10 seconds.  Then try it again it should then work as advertised.

 


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From: Jan Kleinhans 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3

 

Hi

 

I wanted to help a friend of mine to upgrade his 5s to ios 8.3.  The update 
showed up in the normal way, and all the agree and disagree buttons came along, 
but at the very last button you have to agree or disagree to, the phone will 
not respond to those buttons.  I double tapped on both the buttons, nothing 
happening.  We restarted the phone, closed all apps out of the app switcher, 
and every time the results are the same.  I did not connect it to itunes on my 
machine, wanted to do it over the air.  Any ideas as to why the phone might not 
want to respond to those buttons?  Result of all that is that the upgrade can 
not be performed.  Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 

Regards

 

Jan Kleinhans

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Re: Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

But, if you restart the phone, by shutting it down, all data connections 
will be terminated?


Thanks

Jan

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3


Sieghard,

In addition to force quitting all the aps, the friend should also
re-set the network settings in the event the phone is stuck on a data
connection.

Kelly




On 5/27/15, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
Yes, upgrading via iTunes is always a good option and one I often prefer 
as

I get more feedback as to where the upgrade process is at.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jan Kleinhans
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 8:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hi



Thank you for this.  He has 8.2, (if I remember correctly), but can
certainly try that.  I suggested further that itunes might be his friend
also.  Thanks for all the help in this regard, we can try this.



Regards



Jan



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From: Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca

To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 5:05 PM

Subject: RE: Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3



Hi Jan,



This may be a focus issue, in older versions of iOS sometimes buttons 
which

Voiceover read were not visually on the screen because they were on page 2
or further. In order to fix this, make sure you do a 3-finger swipe up 
until

you get to whatever is the last page of the information, in this case the
terms and conditions or whatever. Then find the Agree button again and
double tap it. I believe you may also be able to do a 4-finger tap to move
to the very end of the information which may land you on the Disagree
button, try to swipe left once and double tap.





Regards,

Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jan Kleinhans
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 1:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Problem upgrading iPhone 5s to Ios 8.3



Hi



I wanted to help a friend of mine to upgrade his 5s to ios 8.3.  The 
update

showed up in the normal way, and all the agree and disagree buttons came
along, but at the very last button you have to agree or disagree to, the
phone will not respond to those buttons.  I double tapped on both the
buttons, nothing happening.  We restarted the phone, closed all apps out 
of

the app switcher, and every time the results are the same.  I did not
connect it to itunes on my machine, wanted to do it over the air.  Any 
ideas

as to why the phone might not want to respond to those buttons?  Result of
all that is that the upgrade can not be performed.  Any help will be 
greatly

appreciated.



Regards



Jan Kleinhans

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Re: A link for the new Voice Take a Picture app.

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Hi

I also found that I could go through the intro pages, and after tapping on the 
continue button, my 4S is completely dead, I don't even get that unlabeled 
button to talk.  My phone freezes completely after that.  Pressing the home 
button brings the phone back to life, after some time.

Regards

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  Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 4:31 PM
  Subject: RE: A link for the new Voice Take a Picture app.


  Did you go through the six intro screens and hit the Continue button on the 
last screen?

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mich Verrier
  Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 8:53 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: A link for the new Voice Take a Picture app.

   

  hi all i just downloaded this app on my i phone 4s and can'ts eem to get it 
to work. there seems to be one un labled butten and when i hit it nothing seems 
to happen. from Mich.

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From: Feliciano Godoy 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:40 AM

Subject: Re: A link for the new Voice Take a Picture app.

 

Voice by shalin shah

  Regards, 

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  I can't find this in the iphone's app store. What should I search for? 
Thx.
  Penny

  On 5/21/15, Jan Kleinhans jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net wrote:



Hi

 

Thanks for providing the link.  I have a 4s, with 8.3 on it, but

unfortunately it seems that the app won't work on my particular phone.

After getting through the 6 pages thing, and allowing the app to use the

cammera, voiceover dies completely on my phone, and all other sounds.  
This

 

happens while inside the app.  If pressing the home button, everything

returns to normal.  I have closed everything in app switcher, restarted 
the

 

phone by shutting down completely, uninstalled the app and re-installed

again, and nothing changed.  My conclusion is that it won't run on the 
4s,

at least my old 4s, which is due to retire sooner than later.

 

Thanks for sharing.

 

Jan Kleinhans

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Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 10:45 AM

Subject: A link for the new Voice Take a Picture app.

 

 

Voice - Take A Picture And Have It Spoken by Shalin Shah

https://appsto.re/ie/SMN31.i

 

 

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Re: A link for the new Voice Take a Picture app.

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thanks for providing the link.  I have a 4s, with 8.3 on it, but 
unfortunately it seems that the app won't work on my particular phone. 
After getting through the 6 pages thing, and allowing the app to use the 
cammera, voiceover dies completely on my phone, and all other sounds.  This 
happens while inside the app.  If pressing the home button, everything 
returns to normal.  I have closed everything in app switcher, restarted the 
phone by shutting down completely, uninstalled the app and re-installed 
again, and nothing changed.  My conclusion is that it won't run on the 4s, 
at least my old 4s, which is due to retire sooner than later.


Thanks for sharing.

Jan Kleinhans
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Subject: A link for the new Voice Take a Picture app.


Voice - Take A Picture And Have It Spoken by Shalin Shah
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Re: APPLE MAPS OR GOOGLE MAPS

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

I haven't tried too much of this myself as yet, but the latest version of 
google maps has simular functionality.  There is a voice search where you 
say directions to xxx where xxx is the address you wish to find, and it 
will bring up that information.


Regards

Jan Kleinhans
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Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: APPLE MAPS OR GOOGLE MAPS


Thanks. That's of some use then if I want directions immediately.

Carol P


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Date: Friday, 3 April 2015 3.48 pm
Subject: Re: APPLE MAPS OR GOOGLE MAPS




Some times apple maps does the job other times google maps.
Over though I think apple maps tops google maps because when you need 
directions right away  you can get the directions by telling siri for 
example directions to store name wheir store name is the name of the store 
you need directions to get to.

For example directions to walmart.


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If you want to use Seri for directions you are going to have to get used 
to using Apple maps. So I generally stick with it all the way.


Eric


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Google maps all the way. ?his

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Re: Problem with skype notifications

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Hi

Well, thanks for that, I really hope some stability will come at some stage 
then, as there is no way one can keep the app in the foreground all the time, 
but it does cause one to miss calls though.  Thanks all the same for replying.

Jan Kleinhans
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  Subject: Re: Problem with skype notifications


  No, you're not missing anything. Skype is just weird like that, occasionally 
I'll get notification of calls and sometimes I won't it just depends on what 
kind of day Skype is having I think.

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On Mar 2, 2015, at 9:32 PM, Jan Kleinhans jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net wrote:


Hi

Using iPhone 4s with the latest firmware, I am having a problem with 
notifications in skype.  Now, I have not been using skype that long, so I am 
hoping that I am missing something here that might cause the problem.  I have 
notifications on in settings and the skype settings, sounds are on as well.  
So, when I am done using skype, without logging out, I go back to the home 
screen to use other apps.  No notifications of calls coming in, nor of missed 
calls gets to me.  My understanding is that the calls should ring and one can 
see them even on the lock screen.  If I am inside of the skype app I can then 
see that there were missed calls and whatever event took place.  What am I 
missing here, or might this be a problem with my old 4S phone?  A friend of 
mine is having a similar thing, but he uses a 5S.  Any help would be greatly 
appreciated.

Jan Kleinhans


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Problem with skype notifications

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Using iPhone 4s with the latest firmware, I am having a problem with 
notifications in skype.  Now, I have not been using skype that long, so I am 
hoping that I am missing something here that might cause the problem.  I have 
notifications on in settings and the skype settings, sounds are on as well.  
So, when I am done using skype, without logging out, I go back to the home 
screen to use other apps.  No notifications of calls coming in, nor of missed 
calls gets to me.  My understanding is that the calls should ring and one can 
see them even on the lock screen.  If I am inside of the skype app I can then 
see that there were missed calls and whatever event took place.  What am I 
missing here, or might this be a problem with my old 4S phone?  A friend of 
mine is having a similar thing, but he uses a 5S.  Any help would be greatly 
appreciated.

Jan Kleinhans

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Re: A recording of Siri using iOS 8.1.3

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

I must agree with you, to me she sounds like always, and she hasn't really lost 
any of her wit which sometimes comes out either.  I also would like to know 
what is meant by expressiveness, may be also an audio example to compare the 
current with the past might be interesting, thanks Neal for making the 
recording.

Regards

Jan Kleinhans

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Re: Wireless Doorbell

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

I've read something on a device called sky bell, the device itself is not 
wireless, but it has a camera and microphone for you to see and hear who is 
at the door, and it connects via an app to the phone, so wherever you are 
you can know if someone is at your door, whether you are at home or 
somewhere else, and you can then talk to that person, or, if you are at 
home, let them in.  When at home, the bell uses the wifi to communicate with 
the phone app.


Jan Kleinhans
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Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: Wireless Doorbell


I wondered about a bluetooth doorbell, but can't see why anyone would want
to  connect to a doorbell.
But I could imagine one with an app to send you notifications when it was
pressed, being useful.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 3:07 PM
Subject: Wireless Doorbell


Wondering if anyone on the list has ever used a WIFI enabled doorbell that
can be accessed via the IPhone? Any information would be greatly
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Re: Writer and voices

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Hi

Does one have to have voice dream reader installed to use voice dream writer, 
or is it stand alone software?  I don't currently use the reader, but the 
writing tool sounds great, that's the reason for the question.

Thanks for any help

Jan Kleinhans
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  Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:59 PM
  Subject: Re: Writer and voices


  first read my message entitled writer review and description.
  The good news is the developer has found the issue with not being able to 
access voice dream voices and should have an update in the App Store within a 
week.
  Hope that helps.
  Richard


Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.

Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe




Sent from my iPhone 5S




  On Jan 21, 2015, at 9:50 AM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi Richard,


I haven't purchased Voice Dream Writer yet. I thought I read that there was 
a particular sequence that Voice Reader needed to be opened first. I have 
updated reader and installed my purchased voices and had a little problem 
getting James to work. With some Perserverence, I got it. WHAT makes this app 
so great? Just asking out of curiosity. 


Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

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  Hi all,

  Well, it looks like the ability to use voices from Voice Dream Reader in 
voice Dream Writer isn’t working.

  It isn’t working for me in the release version and unfortunately, it 
wasn’t available to test in the beta cycle.

  In spite of that, it is a great app.

  But, some of you may want to wait to purchase it if having other voices 
is super important to you.  

  Richard




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Re: Writer and voices

[Jan Kleinhans]

Thanks for that.  I will see if it's available in our country, as it sounds to 
be a great tool to use.

Regards

Jan Kleinhans
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  Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 10:57 PM
  Subject: Re: Writer and voices


  Writer is a standalone app. I only have Writer on my iPhone 4s but have both 
Reader and Writer on my iPad Mini 2.

On 22 Jan 2015, at 08:55, Jan Kleinhans jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net wrote:


Hi

Does one have to have voice dream reader installed to use voice dream 
writer, or is it stand alone software?  I don't currently use the reader, but 
the writing tool sounds great, that's the reason for the question.

Thanks for any help

Jan Kleinhans
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  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:59 PM
  Subject: Re: Writer and voices


  first read my message entitled writer review and description.
  The good news is the developer has found the issue with not being able to 
access voice dream voices and should have an update in the App Store within a 
week.
  Hope that helps.
  Richard


Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it.
Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe


Sent from my iPhone 5S



  On Jan 21, 2015, at 9:50 AM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Hi Richard,


I haven't purchased Voice Dream Writer yet. I thought I read that there 
was a particular sequence that Voice Reader needed to be opened first. I have 
updated reader and installed my purchased voices and had a little problem 
getting James to work. With some Perserverence, I got it. WHAT makes this app 
so great? Just asking out of curiosity. 


Eileen

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  Hi all,
  Well, it looks like the ability to use voices from Voice Dream Reader 
in voice Dream Writer isn’t working.
  It isn’t working for me in the release version and unfortunately, it 
wasn’t available to test in the beta cycle.
  In spite of that, it is a great app.
  But, some of you may want to wait to purchase it if having other 
voices is super important to you.  
  Richard


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Re: Setting up an apple id on iPhone 5S

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Hi

Thanks for the advice.  Here in South Africa we don't really have access to 
that particular resource, may be a few apple stores, but I am sure we are 
going to manage with some advice obtained from a list member previously 
given.  Thanks all the same.


Jan Kleinhans
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Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: Setting up an apple id on iPhone 5S


Phone Apple Support and they'll transfer you to account security.

At 07:01 AM 1/10/2015, you wrote:

Hi

A friend of mine got a new iPhone 5s, and someone helped him to set the 
phone up.  It now seems as if the apple id was not set up completely, as 
they don't know the passowrd for the apple id.  My question: is there a way 
to set up the apple id from scratch, or getting a new one using the iPhone 
itself?  At this time he has no access to a computer with an internet 
connection.  Will it help if the settings were reset then starting the 
phone as a new phone, so he gets a chance to choose a new apple id and 
password?


Any help with this greatly appreciated.

Regards

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Setting up an apple id on iPhone 5S

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

A friend of mine got a new iPhone 5s, and someone helped him to set the phone 
up.  It now seems as if the apple id was not set up completely, as they don't 
know the passowrd for the apple id.  My question: is there a way to set up the 
apple id from scratch, or getting a new one using the iPhone itself?  At this 
time he has no access to a computer with an internet connection.  Will it help 
if the settings were reset then starting the phone as a new phone, so he gets a 
chance to choose a new apple id and password?

Any help with this greatly appreciated.

Regards

Jan Kleinhans

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Re: Setting up an apple id on iPhone 5S

[Jan Kleinhans]

Thank you very much for that.  I just wonder if the logout link will be 
available if there is no proper apple id, but I will tell him to try that.  
About the modification of the apple id I have a question.  I still have a 
machine with xp on it, and when I go to
http://appleid.apple.com 
it tells me to download safari to be able to access the site.  I am not so 
clued up about all the tech things, but did not think that safari was going to 
work on a windows computer.  Am I missing something here, or what do I need to 
do on the older machine to access that particular site?

Thank you for any help here.

Regards

Jan Kleinhans   
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  From: Alex Hall 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 3:21 PM
  Subject: Re: Setting up an apple id on iPhone 5S


  Definitely. Just go to Settings  iTunes and App Store (or Settings  
iCloud). From there, choose Log Out, then Create an Apple ID. To modify the 
existing one, you'll need to go to http://appleid.apple.com and hit the Forgot 
Password link.

On Jan 10, 2015, at 7:01 AM, Jan Kleinhans jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net wrote:


Hi

A friend of mine got a new iPhone 5s, and someone helped him to set the 
phone up.  It now seems as if the apple id was not set up completely, as they 
don't know the passowrd for the apple id.  My question: is there a way to set 
up the apple id from scratch, or getting a new one using the iPhone itself?  At 
this time he has no access to a computer with an internet connection.  Will it 
help if the settings were reset then starting the phone as a new phone, so he 
gets a chance to choose a new apple id and password?

Any help with this greatly appreciated.

Regards

Jan Kleinhans


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Re: old version of ITunes for XP

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Well, I have a 4S, and a old xp computer, and I did not need Itunes 12 to 
install 8.1.2 on the phone.


Regards

Jan Kleinhans
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: old version of ITunes for XP


I think the end goal here is to install IOS 8.1.2. Will you need iTunes
12 to do that on a 4S?

On 12/22/2014 11:07 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:
The version of iTunes you run is more about what works with your iDevice 
and
its version of iOS. Also, older computers running 32-bit versions of 
Windows

must use the appropriate iTunes and not a 64-bit version.

You might not want to install iTunes 12.x if you enjoy the sidebar window
since that was removed from iTunes 12. I find that iTunes 11.1.6 runs very
well on my Windows XP system.

Here is a link to an Apple download page that has some older versions of
iTunes as well as the latest version. Depending on your iDevice, you might
consider iTunes 11.1.5 for Windows 32-bit:

http://support.apple.com/downloads/#itunes

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ben Mustill-Rose
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 7:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: old version of ITunes for XP

Hi,

Click this https://ninite.com/itunes/ link then click the download
installer link if the download doesn't start automatically. Once the
Ninite program opens it will download  install iTunes for you without
you having to do anything.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 12/22/14, Deidre Muccio deim...@verizon.net wrote:

I'm confused. I don't know how to find the right link for what version of
ITunes that will be supported with me using XP and Microsoft Office 2007.
Here is the page I got to which then led me to another   page which 
didn't
make it clear what my options were. Can anyone clue me in? See link 
below.


http://www.oldapps.com/itunes.php

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Re: Kuckucksuhr

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

A question on this one: does it strike the real hour on the hour, like 12 for 
12 oclock, or only once or twice, like some of the other apps do?

Regards

Jan Kleinhans
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  From: Alan J Paganelli 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:10 PM
  Subject: Re: Kuckucksuhr


  I am something of a chime clock fan so this is welcome.  Thanks for sharing 
it.


  Regards,
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  From: Jennie Facer 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:23 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Kuckucksuhr

  No mine will go off every half hour now.

  Jenn

  TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

  On Dec 17, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:


According to the app description it works when the phone ios locked, but 
somebody posted that it only goes off every hour that way.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Kuckucksuhr

 

It has great sound, but, Kuckucksuhr, only works in the foreground. 

Richard

 

 

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On Dec 17, 2014, at 7:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

  That is the german word for a cuckoo clock. If you check the app 
description this becomes pretty clear:

  A must-have for every fan of the black forest of Germany!

  Features:
  -Cuckoo sings every hour and half an hour
  -realistic clockwork with weights and chains
  -clock changes design during daytime

  The app is free, but it hasn't been updated in just over 2 years now.


  Regards,
  Sieghard

  Regards,
  Sieghard

  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Jennie Facer
  Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 12:38 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Kuckucksuhr

  Has anyone used this app? What are you supposed to do with it? It has a 
text field that comes up, but what are you supposed to do with it?

  Thank you so much!

  Jenn

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Location tracking, some clarification needed

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

I am using Ios 8.1.1 on a 4S, and am trying to understand the location services 
and tracking.  There are 2 options, always on, meaning it can run even in the 
background, and then the never option.  Now my question: if you choose the 
never option, and you use an app that needs to use the location services, 
will it ask for permission to use location services, or will one be presented 
with the dialog where you need to go into settings, privacy, and so on, to 
enable location services for the particular app.  I would have thought that 
there might be an third option, saying something like when needed making it 
possible for the app to get the necessary permission to use location services.  
Am I missing something here, or will apps ask for permission and then, when you 
close the app, will location services be switched off again for that app?

Any help appreciated

Jan Kleinhans

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Re: Location tracking, some clarification needed

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thanks for that.  Yes, I've seen this with maps.  But, google maps for 
instance, won't work unless you switch location services on in settings, and 
sometimes location tracking will then remain on even if the app is not working. 
 It is a pity that apps just can't ask to use it when necessary, and that would 
then make sure that location tracking is switched off again when the app is not 
running.  

Thanks all the same for the answer.

Jan Kleinhans
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  Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 6:30 AM
  Subject: Re: Location tracking, some clarification needed


  Hi,
  I've seen plenty of cases where the app in question asks you to turn on 
location services by going into Settings, Privacy and Location Services, and 
location services will thereafter be set to Always even when the app isn't 
being used. And there are other apps, like some native Apple apps, which will 
request location services and you'll notice that the setting for the app is 
while using. Examples of the latter include Maps, Compass and Passbook. 
Perhaps there's some special code under the hood which allows the while using 
setting, but since I know nothing about app programming I can only speculate. 
Seems to me that the while using setting would be the ideal. 

  I bet there's someone out there who can elaborate on this much better than I 
can.

  Tom

  
- Original Message - 
From: Jan Kleinhans 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 7:38 PM
Subject: Location tracking, some clarification needed


Hi

I am using Ios 8.1.1 on a 4S, and am trying to understand the location 
services and tracking.  There are 2 options, always on, meaning it can run even 
in the background, and then the never option.  Now my question: if you choose 
the never option, and you use an app that needs to use the location services, 
will it ask for permission to use location services, or will one be presented 
with the dialog where you need to go into settings, privacy, and so on, to 
enable location services for the particular app.  I would have thought that 
there might be an third option, saying something like when needed making it 
possible for the app to get the necessary permission to use location services.  
Am I missing something here, or will apps ask for permission and then, when you 
close the app, will location services be switched off again for that app?

Any help appreciated

Jan Kleinhans

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Re: Problem sharing a contact

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thanks, no, I did not try that, but did restart the device though.  May be it 
is just my 4S, would like to know if others with 4s phones have the same 
problem?  Thanks all the same.

Jan Kleinhans
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  From: Feliciano G 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 4:54 PM
  Subject: Re: Problem sharing a contact


  I have no problem sharing  a contact on ios 8.1.1 on a iphone5. Have you 
tried doing a hard reset by holding the sleep and home buttons in the same time 
for about 7 seconds? Id try that then attempt to share. 

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  On Dec 4, 2014, at 1:59 AM, Jan Kleinhans jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net wrote:


Hi

I don't know if it is a device specific thing again, hopint though that 
someone can help.  I thin I have read in the past that there was some problems 
with sharing details.  I have an iPhone 4S with Ios 8.1.1 on it.  If I go to a 
contact, wanting to share it with someone, I double tap on the share option, I 
am then hearing the choices of mail or message.  When I 
then double tap on message my phone freezes up completely, no speech and 
no sounds.  Is this a known problem with either the Ios version, 4s phones, or 
may be just my particular phone?  Any help appreciated.

Regards

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Problem sharing a contact

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

I don't know if it is a device specific thing again, hopint though that someone 
can help.  I thin I have read in the past that there was some problems with 
sharing details.  I have an iPhone 4S with Ios 8.1.1 on it.  If I go to a 
contact, wanting to share it with someone, I double tap on the share option, I 
am then hearing the choices of mail or message.  When I 
then double tap on message my phone freezes up completely, no speech and no 
sounds.  Is this a known problem with either the Ios version, 4s phones, or may 
be just my particular phone?  Any help appreciated.

Regards

Jan Kleinhans

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Re: Audio Demonstration: Siri versus Google Voice Search

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

This is a very interesting subject.  I certainly would like Siri to be able to 
work more world wide.  Here in South Africa I can not ask Siri any info on 
restaurants, movies and the like.  So, it rather does very basic things here, 
which I find to be a great pity.  In that way Google can do better, in our 
country at least.  I can ask for a kfc (chicken restaurant), and google will 
list the closest one to me, which is really the kind of thing one wants to do.

Regards
Jan Kleinhans
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  From: Jonathan Mosen 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 8:57 AM
  Subject: Re: Audio Demonstration: Siri versus Google Voice Search


  Hi kelly. This demonstrates that the vision of Siri has yet to be truly 
fulfilled. The idea with such services as announced in 2011 was that you could 
talk to your phone in natural language style, much like you would ask your 
personal assistant a question. Indeed, Siri has been described as a personal 
assistant. One shouldn't have to get a syntax just so in order to get the 
answer you want. Natural language queries will improve over time, and it is 
good to know that at least if you ask a question in just the right way, you may 
get the answer you're looking for. Who knows what things will be like a year 
from now, but at this point it seems Google can parse queries a little more 
intelligently, at least in some cases.
  Apple seem to know it has some catch-up to do. Word is they are devoting some 
serious new resources to improving what Siri can do. I suspect we will see big 
things relating to Siri in iOS 9.

  Jonathan Mosen
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On 27/11/2014, at 1:59 pm, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:


Jonathan,

I was able to successfully convert $19.95 in American currency to New
Zealand dollars.  first in converting currencies in SIRI, it is always
important to say the name of the country using dollars, as multiple
countries call their currency dollars.  I told both SIRI and Google
quote convert 19 point 95 United States dollars into New Zealand
dollars end quote.  I received the exact value from both SIRI and
Google.  In your instance, it was an unfair comparison, disadvantaging
Apple.  As discussed previously on this list, SIRI requires people to
use the word convert at the beginning of a currency conversion.  SIRI
taps into yahoo finance, which uses the command structure country
followed by currency name of originating currency followed by the
country name and currency name of destination currency.  when this
syntax is used, SIRI can be used easily for currency conversion.

What was interesting was that SIRI and Google reported a penny
difference in your example.

Kelly



On 11/26/14, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:

  Hi Charles. That link takes you to the Audioboom website, which is a 
popular
  way of creating and distributing audio. But here is the direct link to the
  MP3.
  
https://audioboom.com/boos/2684908-audio-comparison-siri-versus-google-voice-search.mp3
  Jonathan Mosen
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On 27/11/2014, at 8:46 am, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:

How do I get this audio recording into a folder of audio recordings that
is on my PC?  The link you supplied takes me to your web site, but what
would be the next step or steps?  Thanks.

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  From: Jonathan Mosen mailto:jmo...@mosen.org
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 8:41 AM
  Subject: Audio Demonstration: Siri versus Google Voice Search

  Hi everyone. I've put together a half-hour comparison of Siri and 
Google
  Voice Search, performing a range of tasks.
  Hope some of you find it useful.
  
https://audioboom.com/boos/2684908-audio-comparison-siri-versus-google-voice-search
  
https://audioboom.com/boos/2684908-audio-comparison-siri-versus-google-voice-search
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Re: Audio messaging in i-message with the iPhone 4s

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Okay, now I understand, the old mind is turning over rather slowly here, sorry. 
 I will give that a try.  Raise to speak I see is on in the settings for 
messages, so if it is going to work on my phone, I could try it then.  I might 
be having device-specific problems for sure, as I also often seem to struggle 
to answer a call now on the lock screen with the well-known 2-finger double 
tap, which worked like a charm before now, so just may be my phone is nearing 
the end of its life span.

Thanks for helping.

Regards

Jan

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 7:17 PM
  Subject: RE: Audio messaging in i-message with the iPhone 4s


  Hi Jan,

   

  OK, I’ll try this one more time: when raise to speak is turned on you do not 
have to tap the record button at all. The whole point for raise to speak is 
more or less hands free operation, of course it’s not really hands free as you 
are holding your phone, but all you do is start a new message, enter the 
contact or phone number where you want to send it to and if the Record button 
is there which means the other person has iMessage, then all you have to do is 
raise the phone to your ear and it should make the little beep indicating you 
can now speak. You then speak/record your message and take the phone away from 
your ear. This will stop the recording and you will have the buttons on the 
screen to play, send or cancel the message. Once again, don’t tap, double tap 
or double tap and hold on any buttons, just raise the phone to your ear.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jan Kleinhans
  Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 5:20 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Audio messaging in i-message with the iPhone 4s

   

  Hi

   

  Thanks for the info.  Let me see if I understand this, if raise to speak is 
on, how do I activate the record button, or does that still need to be double 
tapped?  If not, I am not too sure how this works, or do you tap and then hold 
the phone and raise it to your ear?  I agree on the audio quality being poor.  
A friend sent me an audio message, and it really does not sound too great.  
Thanks all the same for the suggestions.

   

  Regards

   

  Jan

   

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 10:06 AM

Subject: RE: Audio messaging in i-message with the iPhone 4s

 

Hi Jan,

 

No, you don’t touch the screen at all. If you enable raise to speak the 
sensors in the phone will notice when you raise the phone to your ear and 
engage the microphone, all you do is put the phone to your ear and speak then 
take it away when you are done and the recording will stop. You still have to 
tap the Send button,, however, it’s not like Whats App where the message is 
sent as soon as you release the record button. With audio messages you have the 
option to send the message or play it first if you want to hear how it sounds.

The quality of audio messages in iOS is quite poor compared to Whats App, 
the native iOS audio messages sound like the recording on an answering machine. 
I’m actually a bit surprised by this and hope Apple will improve the sound 
quality in future updates.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Jan Kleinhans
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 11:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Audio messaging in i-message with the iPhone 4s

 

Hi

 

I'll try that, and yes, a restart has been done.  Does it mean that you 
press and hold the button, then quickly raise it to your ear to record and then 
take it away?  The time space for doing so is extremely short.  Thanks for the 
suggestion, will try that.

 

Regards

 

Jan

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Sieghard Weitzel 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 7:36 AM

  Subject: RE: Audio messaging in i-message with the iPhone 4s

   

  This should work on a 4S. Have you shut down your phone and restarted it 
since the update? If not give that a try. If not you can try to just raise the 
phone to your ear as a work-around. On my 5S once I do this I hear the beep and 
I can just speak and record my message, once I take the phone away from my ear 
it stops.

  Oops, almost forgot, I can’t remember if “Raise to speak” is turned on by 
default, it is something you can turn on or off. Just go to Settings and 
Messages, it’s right towards the very bottom.

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Jan Kleinhans
  Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 7:31 PM