Re: someone looking for a Hable dealer

[Mickey Quenzer]

Sorry I didn’t see this message before. You can email me at
mickey.quen...@live.com
I am applying to become a dealer with Hable. I can help with contacting
able for you.

On Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 9:35 PM Ann Byrne  wrote:

> A member of the hable community list is looking for a Hable dealer in
> the U.S.  I know Mickey Quenzer is a dealer, but I don't have contact
> info for him.  Can someone give me his email, or the address of
> another dealer in the country so i can pass it along.
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Re: Does any one know how i can import my podcasts in to down cast from over cast?

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello:
If your podcasts are in Overcast, what do you want to do is go into settings, 
and and useExport OPML Body, Indentation level 0


And investigating this further, I don’t see how to import your podcasts into 
Downcast. There is an import media button, but that doesn’t seem to ask for an 
file.
So I’m not really sure. Sorry about that I wish I could have figured it out!


*** MQ ***
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Subject: Re: Does any one know how i can import my podcasts in to down cast 
from over cast?

Adrian, which app are they in at the m

> On 26 Jun 2023, at 12:32, 'adrian Leong' via VIPhone 
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> Does any one know how i can import my podcasts from overcast in to down cast?
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Re: Hable keyboard

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello:
My email address is mickey.quen...@live.com.
If you email me I’ll send you the link that you can order thet hable
Onefrom directly. Take care!

On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 8:09 PM Ann Byrne  wrote:

> Can someone plese give me Mickey Quenser's address?  I want to reach
> him while the Hable1 is stil on sale.
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Re: [tech-vi Announce List] How to Use Siri as an AI-Powered Chatbot with OpenAI's ChatGPT

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello:
I am trying to get this set up and can’t figure out which service to
register for I read the article but can’t quite understand where to start?
Thanks for any help.


On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 11:46 AM  wrote:

> I have set this up and it’s amazing!
>
>
>
> C
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Dennis Long
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 16, 2023 9:38 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* FW: [tech-vi Announce List] How to Use Siri as an AI-Powered
> Chatbot with OpenAI's ChatGPT
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* tech...@groups.io  *On Behalf Of *David
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> *Sent:* Thursday, March 16, 2023 12:37 AM
> *To:* List 
> *Subject:* [tech-vi Announce List] How to Use Siri as an AI-Powered
> Chatbot with OpenAI's ChatGPT
>
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>
> gHacks Technology News - Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:30 PM
> How to Use Siri as an AI-Powered Chatbot with OpenAI's ChatGPT
>
> Are you dissatisfied with the limitations of Siri when it comes to
> answering your questions? Good news: There’s a new solution available.
> Developer Yue Yang has developed a shortcut that enables you to convert
> Apple's voice assistant into an intelligent AI assistant that leverages the
> capabilities of OpenAI
> .
> To use this feature, all you need is a device that supports Siri and an
> active OpenAI account.
>
> A recent discovery by BGR shows that users can now use a shortcut to
> integrate Apple's Siri with OpenAI's ChatGPT. Instead of replacing Siri
> with ChatGPT, the shortcut allows Siri to transfer users' queries to
> ChatGPT and provide them with answers from the AI chatbot. Developer Yue
> Yang notes that since the shortcut links ChatGPT and Siri, it can be used
> on various devices equipped with Siri, such as iPhones, iPads, and Macs. To
> use this shortcut, you will need to have an OpenAI account, which you can
> create by visiting the official website. Once you have an account, you can
> access your API key by visiting a specific page or through your profile and
> clicking on the option to create a new secret key.
>
> API keys serve as a crucial tool for developers to connect various
> services for a particular user. In the case of using ChatGPT
> with
> Siri, these keys act as the identifiers required to grant Siri the
> authority to operate ChatGPT. If you have made it this far, it is apparent
> that this process is not as straightforward as downloading an app from the
> App Store. Nonetheless, it is not overly complicated either.
>
> After obtaining your API key, the next step is to download the latest
> version of the shortcut created by Yue Yang from their GitHub page using
> the Apple device you wish to use with ChatGPT. As of this writing, version
> 1.2 is the most recent. Once you open the shortcut on your device, it will
> prompt you for your API key information. After you enter it, you will need
> to select a specific phrase to activate your ChatGPT-enhanced Siri instead
> of the regular Siri. It's important to note that this shortcut only works
> with English language inputs. While this process may seem a bit
> complicated, it's not much more involved than downloading an app from the
> App Store.
>
> Once you have set up your ChatGPT
> -powered Siri,
> you can use it to communicate with the AI chatbot and even customize
> specific commands. Yue Yang has made it possible to access all of ChatGPT's
> features and personalize your new assistant by setting its personality. On
> GitHub, the developer suggests that you can configure your Siri to be a
> joker, a writer, a chef, or any other persona you choose. The possibilities
> for customization are limitless.
>
> The shortcut created by Yue Yang is an exciting way to breathe new life
> into Siri and enhance its capabilities by leveraging the power of ChatGPT.
> By following the steps outlined in this article, you can easily set up
> ChatGPT as a virtual assistant to help with a range of tasks and answer any
> questions you might have. While the setup process may seem daunting at
> first, it is a straightforward process that can be completed with a few
> simple steps. With ChatGPT, Siri has the potential to become a smarter and
> more versatile voice assistant, and users can enjoy a whole new level of
> interaction with their Apple devices.
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RE:Re: Facebook comments now fixed.

[Mickey Quenzer]

you have to be running iOS beta software the latest version in order to have 
comments work with facebook. my system reports iOS 16.4 but it is a beta

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Re: Commenting in Facebook

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello: I was able to comment with Facebook with my iPhone and I am running
iOS 16.3.1


On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 12:35 PM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Just to get this straight, can people who don't run the iOS 16.4 Public
> Beta still comment in Facebook?
>
> I thought I saw posts from people who are on 16.3 saying they also can't
> comment in Facebook currently, i.e. you tap on comment and the edit field
> comes up, but no keyboard comes up, a 2-finger double tap does not work to
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Re: Ciri Responding Oddly When Asked to Call Someone

[Mickey Quenzer]

Try make the screen brighter or make the screen dimmer.

On Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 11:52 AM Andy Baracco  wrote:

> My wife and I have iPhone SE 3rd gen. When she asks Siri to brighten the
> screen, she says she can't brighten lights because we don't have Home kit
> activated.
>
> Andy
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* sherrywells1...@gmail.com
> *To:* 'VIPhone' 
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> *Subject:* Ciri Responding Oddly When Asked to Call Someone
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> *Hello,*
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>
>
> *I have an IPhone 8 & am current on IOS.  Ever since updating IOS, I
> frequently get an odd response when I ask Ciri to call someone in my
> contacts list.  I will say call person X & she will say what do you want to
> know about person X.  This may happen several times before I give up & open
> the contact to tap on the phone # to call them.  Even funnier, I have a
> sister-in-law named Mickie who is on my VIP contact list & is my ICE
> contact.  Today when I asked Ciri to call her I got a web site telling me
> who Mickey Mouse was.  This happened a couple of times.  I obviously have
> tried speaking very clearly to no avail.  It is not the end of the world to
> have to open the contacts to make a call but I’d rather have the
> convenience of just saying call person.  Is anyone else having this
> problem?*
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RE:RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

[Mickey Quenzer]

hello: new line I love wireless devices especially earbuds. but I'm finding 
that I have   too many Bluetooth devices   and I'm finding that at times audio 
gets chopped upwhen using my iPhone. if I'm listening to something over 
bluetooth. so for this reason I'd like to get wired devices working again. hope 
this makes sense!

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Re: Convert M4A to TXT format?

[Mickey Quenzer]

I suggest that you look at the program called Just Press Record from planet
software.

Website openplanetsoftware.com
It is a very friendly voiceover program. I use it all the time and I get
pretty good results.

On Sat, Oct 29, 2022 at 9:27 AM Ann M Medlar  wrote:

> Anyone ever use any software to do conversion from m4a to txt format?
>
> I googled it but could use advice.
>
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> https://www.google.com/search?q=convert+.m4a+to+.txt=1C1GCEA_enUS746US74
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> 6=convert+.m4a+to+.txt=chrome..69i57.10585j0j7=chrome=UTF
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RE:tv app and audiodescription in IOS 16

[Mickey Quenzer]

what movie were you watching?

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Re: "a question about updating

[Mickey Quenzer]

On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 2:47 PM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> If the song is playing on your phone, I wouldn't think you would need Siri
> to identify it.
> The point of the feature is if you are listening, say to a car radio, and
> don't know a song, you can ask Siri to identify it.
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> -Original  now that I have the latest beta, I am not able to use the
> feature again. Luckily I haven’t got rid of the entry in Feedback so maybe
> they’ll fix it again!

However, it doesn’t look like they’ve seen it because it still shows update
> as open and no other issues like it so I’m disappointed and not sure how to
> fix the problem. Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 12:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>
> Yes.  I'm talking about on my phone.  I have no need to have my phone
> identify songs if they aren't playing on my phone.  Sorry this problem is
> happening though.
>
> On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> > Are you talking about music playing on your phone?
> > I think the rest of us are talking about music playing on another
> > source and your phone/Siri, is listening to the song off say a radio or
> computer, 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Richard, USA.
> > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
> it.”
> >  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> >
> > My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> > Joshua Hendrickson
> > Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 12:31 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: "a question about updating
> >
> > I have no such problems.  I tried this morning with both apple music,
> > and youtube music and Siri was able to identify what song was playing
> > with no issues.  I have a 13 pro max updated to the latest version of
> IOS.
> >
> > On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> >> Apple may use Shazam for their song identification, but opening
> >> Shazam on my
> >> 13 pro identifies the song immediately.
> >> Siri does not.
> >> So something on the Apple side is broken between Siri and Shazam, but
> >> you can get the results you want simply by asking Siri to open Shazam
> >> instead of asking it to identify the song.
> >> At least until Apple sorts out whatever they did.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Richard, USA.
> >> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
> >> with it.”
> >>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> >>
> >> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> >> Of Donna Casteen
> >> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:54 AM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
> >>
> >> Gera, Apple uses Shazam for song identification. A few days ago there
> >> was an update to Shazam. For me, strangely my Apple watch running IOS
> >> 9, Siri will immediately identify a song every time. But if I use my
> >> iPhone 11 running
> >> 16.02 & the most recent update to Shazam, Siri will not identify any
> >> song.
> >>
> >> Donna
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: is
> >>> Siri linked to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but to
> >>> Spotify, thus don’t know if this would make a difference.
> >>> Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within Control
> >>> Pannel?
> >>> And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the
> >>> lyrics, you’ve got to link it first), you get the chance to open the
> >>> song right in Spotify!
> >>>
> >>> Gera
> >>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
> >>>
>  El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:46 a.m., Donna Casteen
>  
>  escribió:
> 
>  Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try again
>  later. If I use my watch Se Siri will identify the same song as I
>  requested Siri on my phone to identify every time.
> 
>  Donna
> 
> >
> > That's what I’m getting as well.
> >
> >
> > Chris Judge
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
> > Behalf Of Richard Turner
> > Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: RE: "a question about updating
> >
> > All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
> > I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and
> > nothing.
> >
> > However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the song
> > quickly.  And, something I just noticed, there is a button to get
> > the 

How to set up an iPhone hotspot

[Mickey Quenzer]

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204023


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Re: Question Regarding Hot Spot

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Hello:
I’m not exactly sure I might be misunderstanding something. If he wants to
use his hotspot for his computer, he’s got to have Internet in order to use
the hotspot. The hotspot is for sharing the Internet with your computer.
Can you clarify if I’m misunderstanding something?

On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 9:28 AM Carla  wrote:

> Don Moore, who is on this list and was in the hurricane needs help with
> setting up hot spot with his iPhone.  He wants to know if you can use the
> phone hot spots to work on the computer and he needs to know how to set it
> up.  He does have his power back but no internet.
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Re: identifying music

[Mickey Quenzer]

> I am running iOS beta six. Whatever at this point. I have reported this 
> problem to Apple and the status is still open with no similar reports. So if 
> anybody could help me figure out how to get Apple to understand this problem, 
> I would very much appreciate it.
> The. Feedback item for this is:  FB11543485

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Re: Changing Speed of a Bookshare Audio Book

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello:
I know this basked, is an asked, I cannot find bar 2.0 in the App Store. It
hasn’t shown up yet is there a way to get the system to find it? If I
delete the program will I get 2.0 I doubt it. Any help would be
appreciated. Thanks!

On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 5:29 PM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> Near the top of the screen, find the audio settings button and flick up
> with one finger and or down, to adjust the speed by 20 words per minute,
> roughly.
> I think up is slower and down is faster.
> You can also open up the audio settings and change your default speed.
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
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>
> On Sep 20, 2022, at 3:21 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn <
> dulceandspa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, All,
>
>
>
> Is there a way to speed up the audio of a Bookshare audio book?
>
> Dulce
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> Subject: BARD 2.0 is in the app store
>
> I checked for app updates and was shocked to find BARD 2.0 is already in
> the app store.
>
> I think the new system works great.
>
> The search is at the top and searching for an author seems to get just
> that author and not any combination of the first and last name, etc.
>
>
>
> Here is what the update says:
>
> Version 2.0 includes a number of new features, including in-app search
> capabilities: -Search inputs are more intuitive. Author search supports
> First Name, Last Name format; Last Name, First Name; and Last Name only.
> Quotation marks are no longer required. For example, input “Mary Clark”
> (without quotations) to find all the Mary Higgins Clark titles. -Keyword
> search supports searching all indexed metadata and can help users looking
> for multiple criteria. For example, to find a Terri Pratchett book narrated
> by Nick DePinto, a user can simply input “dePinto Terri“ (without
> quotations). -After a user inputs a search, they can amend the search type,
> the inputted term itself, or the format (audio or braille), and sort
> results alphabetically by author, title, or latest publication date.
> -In-app search now includes NLS Music collection holdings, allowing users
> to access the variety of musical appreciation and biography books, scores,
> and music instructional titles.  -Users can switch between audio and
> braille searches. For example, input “learn guitar” (without quotation
> marks) with the search defaults to find audio instructional titles, then
> select the braille format and the search button again to find braille
> titles. Version 2.0 also includes enhancements to searching and sorting
> Bookshelf and Get Books listings. Bug fixes include: -Rewind controls
> skipping further than intended -Sideloading books  -Downloading and reading
> non-ASCII foreign 

Re: BARD on the Echo 10

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello: I haven’t heard about this can you get me more information so I can
help you?
On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 9:17 AM  wrote:

> Can someone tell me the best place to get info on how to read BARD Books
> using an Echo device?  It's not intuitive at all. I activated it on my Echo
> 10 but haven't succeededin getting abook  to load up, even if it has been
> downloaded on my phone.
>
>
>
>Deidre
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Re: (Attn: Mickey) Accessibility issue with the Alexa app:

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello Donna:
Thank you so much for this tip. I forgot that I had asked you for that so
thank you for sending that to me and I’m so happy that I found this today.
I saved it in the notes so that I can do this when I get a chance. Again
thanks a lot! These tips should be somewhere I don’t know where so that’s
why I’m trying to save all these in a note.

On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 5:09 PM Donna Casteen  wrote:

> Mickey,
>
> Here are the steps to fix the Amazon Alexa app...
> 1. Open the Amazon Alexa app.
> 2. Close the app & reopen the app from the app switcher.
> 3. Tap on the "More" tab at the bottom right corner.
> 4. Swipe down to "Settings" & tap to open.
> 5. Swipe down to "Alexa app settings" tap to open.
> 6. Swipe to "Hands free Alexa." This is  the first setting in the list of
> the Alexa app settings. Tap to turn the setting ON. Note: The setting is a
> toggle, tap again to turn Off, if in the future you want to turn the
> setting off. The next time you open the app you will be able to immediately
> hear voiceover speak. You can now use the Alexa app in the same way that
> you use your Alexa device, just say Hey Alexa ...?... to have Alexa preform
> your requested task.
>
> Donna
>
>
>
> 
> Hello Donna:
> Could you give me more information about this setting? I can’t find your
> original post. Thank you so much!
>
> On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 12:23 PM Donna Casteen 
> wrote:
>
>> Sighhh!I'll say it once AGAIN...There is NO accessibility problem with
>> the Amazon Alexa app. There is ONLY a setting within the app that needs
>> changing. Change the setting & problem solved! The step by step solution
>> provided has been shared here & in another group at least 5 times.sighhh, I
>> can share the how to get to the setting once again, I guess if needed.
>>
>> Donna
>>
>>
>> Flat out Amazon could care less about accessibility.  It is ridiculous.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 8, 2022 10:33 AM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Accessibility issue with the Alexa app:
>>
>>
>>
>> As far as I can remember, it’s been broke. It’s been reported multiple
>> times too.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2022, at 09:52, Dennis Long  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick I wonder the same thing.  When creating a routine the slider bar is
>> not accessible for example how bright you want something like lights or
>> what temperature you want something to turn on  or off at.  This has been
>> broke forever.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
>> Of *rick.alf...@gmail.com
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 7, 2022 11:21 AM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: Accessibility issue with the Alexa app:
>>
>>
>>
>> Don, I had the same problem a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, there is a
>> button  that you have to tap to get past this screen which is totally
>> inaccessible with VoiceOver. I had to have my sighted wife tap on it to get
>> past it. You can’t help but wonder if Amazon does any accessibility testing
>> when making changes.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Warmest regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick Alfaro
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
>> Of *Don Breda
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 7, 2022 8:01 AM
>> *To:* VIPhone google group 
>> *Subject:* Re: Accessibility issue with the Alexa app:
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks very much.
>>
>>
>>
>> Donna I have an iPhone 8 so screen recognition is not an option.
>>
>>
>>
>> James,
>>
>>
>>
>> I did try that once  and it didn't work but of course I probably didn't
>> tap the exact spot.
>>
>>
>>
>> I will give it another shot.
>>
>>
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/7/2022 6:34 AM, Don Breda wrote:
>>
>> Hi listers,
>>
>>
>>
>> I wanted to add a speaker to a group I previously created in the Alexa
>> app a long time ago.
>>
>>
>>
>> I found I was unable to do that.
>>
>>
>>
>> When going to the devices tab I now get a screen that says introducing
>> favorites and I can't find a way to get rid of it or do anying with it at
>> all.
>>
>>
>>
>> This prevents me from working with my devices and speaker groups.
>>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone found a way around this?
>>
>>
>>
>> I did try the pass through gesture with no luck and the amazon website
>> doesn't have the alexa control interface as it used to.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any suggestions appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Accessibility issue with the Alexa app:

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello Donna:
Could you give me more information about this setting? I can’t find your
original post. Thank you so much!

On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 12:23 PM Donna Casteen 
wrote:

> Sighhh!I'll say it once AGAIN...There is NO accessibility problem with the
> Amazon Alexa app. There is ONLY a setting within the app that needs
> changing. Change the setting & problem solved! The step by step solution
> provided has been shared here & in another group at least 5 times.sighhh, I
> can share the how to get to the setting once again, I guess if needed.
>
> Donna
>
>
> Flat out Amazon could care less about accessibility.  It is ridiculous.
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone 
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 8, 2022 10:33 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Accessibility issue with the Alexa app:
>
>
>
> As far as I can remember, it’s been broke. It’s been reported multiple
> times too.
>
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2022, at 09:52, Dennis Long  wrote:
>
>
>
> Rick I wonder the same thing.  When creating a routine the slider bar is
> not accessible for example how bright you want something like lights or
> what temperature you want something to turn on  or off at.  This has been
> broke forever.
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
> Of *rick.alf...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Friday, January 7, 2022 11:21 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Accessibility issue with the Alexa app:
>
>
>
> Don, I had the same problem a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, there is a
> button  that you have to tap to get past this screen which is totally
> inaccessible with VoiceOver. I had to have my sighted wife tap on it to get
> past it. You can’t help but wonder if Amazon does any accessibility testing
> when making changes.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Warmest regards
>
>
>
> Rick Alfaro
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
> Of *Don Breda
> *Sent:* Friday, January 7, 2022 8:01 AM
> *To:* VIPhone google group 
> *Subject:* Re: Accessibility issue with the Alexa app:
>
>
>
> Thanks very much.
>
>
>
> Donna I have an iPhone 8 so screen recognition is not an option.
>
>
>
> James,
>
>
>
> I did try that once  and it didn't work but of course I probably didn't
> tap the exact spot.
>
>
>
> I will give it another shot.
>
>
>
> Don
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1/7/2022 6:34 AM, Don Breda wrote:
>
> Hi listers,
>
>
>
> I wanted to add a speaker to a group I previously created in the Alexa app
> a long time ago.
>
>
>
> I found I was unable to do that.
>
>
>
> When going to the devices tab I now get a screen that says introducing
> favorites and I can't find a way to get rid of it or do anying with it at
> all.
>
>
>
> This prevents me from working with my devices and speaker groups.
>
>
>
> Has anyone found a way around this?
>
>
>
> I did try the pass through gesture with no luck and the amazon website
> doesn't have the alexa control interface as it used to.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions appreciated.
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Re: AirPods question

[Mickey Quenzer]

Kristeen
Go into settings andBluetooth


Find your AirPods and flip down Intel you hear it say more and double tap
when you get in there you’ll see different options what you want to do is
Double tap on Connect to This iPhone, Automatically
And double tap on When Last Connected to This iPhone hope this helps! Sorry
about the weird formatting and series mistakes.


On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 7:14 AM 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone <
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> If you do that, you delete them from the entire Apple account and all the
> devices.
>
> Kristeen
>
>
> > On Nov 16, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
> >
> > Have you tried going into Bluetooth settings on your phone and
> forgetting the airpods?
> >
> > I don't have this issue since I have a Windows computer.
> >
> >
> >
> > Richard
> > "Sunshine is delicious, rain is refreshing, wind braces us up, snow is
> exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only different
> kinds of good weather." ~ John Ruskin
> >
> > My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone 
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 4:13 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: AirPods question
> >
> > I realize that syncing across devices with AirPods can be a beautiful
> thing, but is there any way to make sure this doesn't happen. If I want to
> use the pods, for example on my Mac mini, I will get a message, or a phone
> call, or an alarm will go off on my iPhone, and the connection
> automatically goes to the iPhone. I have looked in settings on both phone
> and computer and I hope I'm missing something, because I would really like
> to prevent this from happening.
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Re: new iPhone

[Mickey Quenzer]

Does the 13 Pro Max have LiDAR? Also how is the battery life?
Thank you so much for any help you can be. On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 11:38 AM
goshawk on horseback  wrote:

> I know what you mean, as had the same issue with my old iPhone X and my
> new 13pro. yes, there should be some sort of better audio and/or tactile
> feedback to help us with things like this, and the same when one gets a new
> apple watch, as one can often have the same problem then as well.
>
> Simon
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
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> *Sent:* Sunday, November 14, 2021 3:52 PM
> *Subject:* new iPhone
>
> Hi all:
>
> Just purchased a 13 Pro Max. Let me tell you, transferring the data from
> my 8Plus is a pain. Took me forever to line up the pairing circles. Wish VO
> would give haptick feedback when you are lining them up. So far, I like the
> 13 pro max.
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Re: iPhone SE 2020 and IOS 15.1

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello,
Here’s a podcast from Applebee’s that describes Haptic   half dec and how to 
adjust it.

Quick Tip: How to Disable Haptic Feedback for “No Item Discovered,” and Why You 
Might Want To — AppleVis Podcast



***  MQ ***


> On Nov 9, 2021, at 3:43 PM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
> 
> 
> That worked, Thanks -Steve
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 4:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>  
> Steve,
>  
> Go to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Audio, Sounds and haptics, No item 
> discovered, and either turn off haptics or turn off both Sounds and Haptics 
> as I have. I prefer no feedback when no item is discovered and this setting 
> corrected it for me.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Steve 
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> Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 10:58:46 AM
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>  
> Hi All,
> After installing 15.1 on my SE I discovered an annoying problem.  Whenever I 
> touch the screen where there is no text the phone makes the clicking sound as 
> it always has but now it vibrates too.  Does anyone know how I can stop this 
> from happening?  I don’t need this on an SE.
> Thanks -Steve
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Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello Alen
:
When playing a Talking Book, My audio destination is set to  default.

I have installed iOS beta 15.2.
The problem still exists.
Also, You can use Apple Music to duplicate the  problem. You must be playing 
the audio to create the audio problem.
I am not changing the volume, the side button will increase and decrease the 
Bluetooth speaker.
The audio destination is default. 
vOiceover speech is coming out of the iPhone. I tried using screen recording to 
record the session, but it is recording the audio that comes over the bluetooth 
speaker.
Changing vOiceover router items doesn’t effect the  problem.

If you stop the audio you are playing with the  Bluetooth speaker, the audio  
problem stops and vOiceover speech when you are flicking around is normal.
 Start playing the audio again and the problem while flicking comes back.
***  MQ ***


> On Nov 5, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Mickey,
>  
> I’m unable to duplicate your issue. I’m running iOS 15.1 on an iPhone 13 Mini 
> and have a couple of Bluetooth speakers available to my iPhone. I have some 
> follow-up questions/comments:
>  
> When you’re playing a BARD Mobile item and adjust the volume, are you using 
> the volume buttons on your iDevice as opposed to the speaker itself? Your 
> original post wasn’t clear and I’m assuming you meant the iDevice’s volume 
> buttons.
> Is Voiceover coming through your connected Bluetooth speaker? When I was 
> unable to duplicate your issue, Voiceover was coming through the speaker 
> which is my preference.
> What is the setting of Audio destination in your rotor when you’re 
> experiencing this issue? I believe mine was set to Default audio but I had an 
> External audio choice as well. Does the issue continue if you cycle between 
> audio destination settings?
> Do you have Audio ducking turned on or off when experiencing the issue and 
> have you tried toggling it to the other option to see if it makes a 
> difference.?
> With your Bluetooth speaker connected, what is its device type setting? In 
> Settings, Bluetooth, place focus on the speaker name and single finger swipe 
> down to More info and double tap. A screen opens where you can double tap on 
> Device type and select between Car stereo, Headphone, Hearing aid, Speaker, 
> and Other. Neither of my Bluetooth speakers had anything selected on this 
> screen and I still was unable to duplicate your issue when I marked my device 
> type as a speaker. I did notice that the Voiceover clicks when swiping on the 
> screen seemed much louder after selecting Speaker here but Voiceover volume 
> for everything else was unchanged.
>  
> Post back after answering the above questions or trying any of the above 
> items to let us know if any difference occurred. If nothing changes, I’d 
> contact Apple Accessibility as has been suggested.
>  
> Alan Lemly
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mickey 
> Quenzer
> Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 7:39 AM
> To: Abridged Recipients 
> Subject: Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers
>  
> Hello All:
> My ability to play through Bluetooth speakers is still acting the same as it 
> did with previous iOS versions. I am now on iOS 15.1 with exactly the same 
> problem. However I did figure out that you can create the problem not only 
> with bard but with the regular music app also just follow the instructions 
> above an open music instead of barred.
> I’m hoping to find the case ID and report this to Apple today.
>  
>  
> ***  MQ ***
>  
> 
> 
> On Apr 27, 2021, at 5:34 PM, Mickey Quenzer  wrote:
> 
> 
>  
> Steps to reproduce the problem
> Add a speaker to Bluetooth settings.
> Go into bard and start playing a book
> Use the volume up and down button to set the volume of the speaker you’re 
> playing through.
> While in bard just use voiceover normally.
> You’ll find that there are two volumes with voiceover. One of them is the 
> volume that you set in the rotor and the other one is actually unknown to me 
> at this point that one is very loud and uncontrollable.
>  
> Questions:
> One which volume setting is that voice coming from? To how do you control 
> that volume?
> Notes
> If you want to change set your system up to be normal again just disconnect 
> the Bluetooth 
>  
>  
>  
> *** MQ ***
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Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers

[Mickey Quenzer]

Richard:
I have installed ios beta 5.2 on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
The feedback case is: FB9091046

***  MQ ***


> On Nov 5, 2021, at 8:08 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> If you are not on the beta, just report it through accessibil...@apple.com
> That is where reports for non beta devices go.
>  
> Clearly it is no longer a beta issue for you.
>  
> I honestly don’t remember which Bluetooth issue this was about.  If it is the 
> volume changes; yes, it still happens some.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mickey 
> Quenzer
> Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 5:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers
>  
> Hello Richard:
> It’s been a long time but the problem still exists with iOS 15.1.
> How do I find the case ID? I’d like to update the report but I don’t have the 
> beta software installed on my iPhone 12 pro max.
> Do I have to install the beta software first if so can you give me the URL to 
> sign up for it again.
> Thank you so much for all the help that you are to everybody on this list.
>  
>  
> ***  MQ ***
>  
> 
> 
> On Apr 28, 2021, at 2:53 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  You should report it through the beta feedback form as well if you haven't.
> I'll report it if you share the case number so the reports will all show up 
> under the same issue.
>  
> 
>  
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>  
> www.turner42.com
>  
> 
> 
> On Apr 28, 2021, at 10:52 AM, Mickey Quenzer  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Richard: just wanted to let you know that The problem can also be 
> created with Apple Music.
> Sieghard, I thought this problem existed earlier than that but yes I am on 
> the latest update of iOS and I also can create the problem with the beta 
> software for iOS. I have reported it to Apple Accessibility for the current  
> Version 14.5 iOS as they don’t track the beta software issues.
>  
>  
> *** MQ ***
> ***270-776-9871 ***
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
> Sieghard Weitzel 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 11:34:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers
>  
> Have  you updated to 14.5? This was not an issue prior to that update.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 8:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers
> 
> I use bluetooth speakers and headphones with bard and voice over all the 
> time.  I've never had a problem where voice over is louder then my bard book. 
>  I also have change with buttons off when it comes to volume.
> 
> On 4/28/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> > Which speaker do you have?
> >
> >
> >
> > Richard
> > "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
> > but what they become by it."
> > - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
> >
> > Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
> >
> >
> >
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> > Mickey Quenzer
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 7:31 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers
> >
> > Hello everybody:
> > I was able to get a hold of Apple accessibility and they log the 
> > problem with their Apple support tools. I was able to duplicate the 
> > problem for them.
> > And Arnold your fix didn’t change anything but I’ll play with it 
> > throughout the day. Thanks for your suggestion. I hope somebody else 
> > can cause the trouble to because it’s very consistent it happens on my 
> > iPhone X my iPhone
> > 12 so I’ll keep you posted.
> >
> >
> > *** MQ ***
> > ***270-776-9871 ***
> > 
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf 
> > of Arnold Schmidt mailto:als5...@gmail.com>>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 8:09:11 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> > Subject: Re: Voiceover p

Re: AirPods 3 review: A fantastic set of earbuds with a problematic price point | iMore

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello Esther:
I love my AirPods so far. I’ve had them for a little over a week and I’m 
finding them to be very useful and very comfortable. The one thing I will say 
is that it’s hard to use them when you’re asleep lol! The earbuds fall out of 
your ears. Maybe I need to create some kind of an ear sock or something. Other 
than that I love them!


***  MQ ***


> On Nov 8, 2021, at 4:47 PM, Esther Levegnale  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Everyone,
> 
> I just purchased the AirPods 3 and haven't received them yet.  I was 
> wondering how satisfied you folks who have them are with these Airpods.
> 
> Thanks so much.
> 
> Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2021, at 4:50 PM, Mickey Quenzer  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ***  MQ ***
>> 
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Kliph 
>>> Date: November 6, 2021 at 9:45:13 AM CDT
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: AirPods 3 review: A fantastic set of earbuds with a problematic 
>>> price point | iMore
>>> Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> Luke Filipowicz1 Nov 2021
>>>>> 
>>>>> Source: Luke Filipowicz / iMore
>>>>> When Apple first announced the AirPods years ago, they were an exciting 
>>>>> new product, and aside from Beats, Apple's first foray into wireless 
>>>>> headphones. Fast forward to today, and the AirPods lineup has grown to 
>>>>> include the ANC capable earbuds, AirPods Pro, and the luxurious 
>>>>> over-the-ear headphones AirPods Max. It's clear to see that AirPods 3 is 
>>>>> an impressive culmination of what Apple has learned in the headphone 
>>>>> market in just a few short years, and it's the best set of basic AirPods 
>>>>> they have ever made.
>>>>> 
>>>>> After using the AirPods 3 all week, I have completely fallen in love with 
>>>>> them. They have been a delight to use, from how easy they pair with all 
>>>>> my Apple devices to just how much improved the sound quality is over the 
>>>>> AirPods 2. However, the same issues the AirPods have always had are still 
>>>>> present on the AirPods 3, and that's mainly by design. Add in the 
>>>>> precarious price point, and you have a product that is simultaneously 
>>>>> very compelling to some people and an absolute non-starter to others.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> AirPods 3: Price and availability
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Source: Luke Filipowicz / iMore
>>>>> The AirPods 3 comes in a wireless charging case compatible with MagSafe 
>>>>> and has a new design that looks a lot more like the AirPods Pro than the 
>>>>> old AirPods 2, except for the silicone ear tips. While they don't have 
>>>>> ANC, they do have decent 6-hour battery life in the buds, work with 
>>>>> Spatial Audio and Dolby Atmos, and the new skin-detect sensor.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The AirPods (3rd generation) are available now from wherever you usually 
>>>>> buy your Apple devices. They cost $179 and, unfortunately for some, only 
>>>>> come in white.
>>>>> 
>>>>> AirPods 3: All the good things
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Source: Luke Filipowicz / iMore
>>>>> In my best efforts to not bury the lede, I'll start with this — the 
>>>>> AirPods 3 sound quite a bit better than the AirPods 2, and honestly, 
>>>>> pretty close to the quality of AirPods Pro. Of course, you don't have 
>>>>> silicone ear tips to get the excellent sound isolation that the AirPods 
>>>>> Pro can give you, but if you put ear tips on the AirPods 3, the sound 
>>>>> would likely be very similar without the ANC.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The bass performance on the AirPods 3 is probably where you'll notice the 
>>>>> most difference right out of the gate. It's much more present than in the 
>>>>> previous models and makes listening to heavy rock, EDM, and other 
>>>>> bass-heavy genres much more enjoyable. The mids and the highs always come 
>>>>> through clear and crisp, so I have not noticed any clipping, and since 
>>>>> Apple threw in its Adaptive EQ technology into the AirPods 3, the sound 
>>>>> should always be pretty consistent.
>>>>

Fwd: Apple AirPods Pro vs Beats Fit Pro - Reviewed

[Mickey Quenzer]

***  MQ ***


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Kliph 
> Date: November 6, 2021 at 9:44:19 AM CDT
> To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple AirPods Pro vs Beats Fit Pro - Reviewed
> Reply-To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
>>> Lee NeikirkUpdated November 5, 2021
>>> 
>>> Recommendations are independently chosen by Reviewed’s editors. Purchases 
>>> you make through our links may earn us a commission.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Beats recently launched what are arguably the company’s most exciting pair 
>>> of true wireless earbuds yet: the Beats Fit Pro. These buds present a 
>>> high-value package for the price, not least of all because they so handily 
>>> emulate the Apple AirPods Pro, generally regarded as the best earbuds for 
>>> pairing with an iPhone.
>>> 
>>> You might know where this is going: After careful evaluation, we’re 
>>> impressed enough with the Beats Fit Pro that we don’t just think these true 
>>> wireless buds successfully emulate the AirPods Pro—for many folks they 
>>> might just be the superior choice. So what else could we do but put these 
>>> two mighty true wireless options head-to-head to see which is best? Let’s 
>>> find out.
>>> 
>>> Get the Beats Fit Pro from Amazon
>>> 
>>> Get the Apple AirPods Pro from Amazon
>>> 
>>> Price
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Credit: Reviewed / Lee Neikirk
>>> Not sure which buds to give your dollars to?
>>> Price tends to be the easiest comparison to make, and while that’s still 
>>> generally true here, there are a few considerations to take into account. 
>>> For example, the AirPods Pro originally launched in 2019 at an MSRP of 
>>> $249, but you can often find them on sale well below the $200 mark.
>>> 
>>> ADVERTISEMENT
>>> The Beats Fit Pro launched on November 1st, 2021 at an MSRP of $199. 
>>> They’re certainly the cheaper of the two from an MSRP perspective, but it’s 
>>> also unlikely we’ll see similar price drops for the Fit Pro for a while 
>>> considering how much newer they are.
>>> 
>>> Without the advantage of sales during holiday season, however, the AirPods 
>>> Pro are often pricier than $200, and that's may be even more likely as they 
>>> transition to a newer version that tacks on MagSafe wireless charging. As 
>>> such, we’ve got to give this one to the Beats.
>>> 
>>> Our pick: Beats Fit Pro
>>> 
>>> Fit and design
>>> 
>>> The AirPods Pro went a long way to fixing some of the issues we took with 
>>> the original AirPods, not least of which was to drastically improve the 
>>> general level of comfort thanks to their magnetic ear tips.
>>> 
>>> Related content
>>> 
>>> Yet they also continue to use Apple’s “semi-open fit” design, which means 
>>> that despite replacing the plastic shell of the original AirPods with an 
>>> ear-tipped design that fits comfortably and snugly into most ear canals, 
>>> they still fit a bit loosely in the outer ear.
>>> 
>>> Some folks love this design—and swear by it—but to my ears, the AirPods Pro 
>>> always feel like they might jump ship unexpectedly, especially during a 
>>> workout or any kind of vigorous activity.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Credit: Reviewed / Lee Neikirk
>>> Design and fit are one major way these true wireless buds differ.
>>> The Beats Fit Pro take a different approach: They’re not just fitted with 
>>> traditional ear tips, they also have a stabilizing wing that fits snugly 
>>> into the outer ear. This is in place of the clunkier (but very stable) ear 
>>> hooks that defined previous Beats buds like the Powerbeats and Powerbeats 
>>> Pro. The wing design isn’t a new thing for true wireless earbuds, but if 
>>> most of your experience revolves around AirPods, it’s a notable change in 
>>> fit and feel to be sure.
>>> 
>>> ADVERTISEMENT
>>> In terms of waterproofing, the AirPods Pro and Beats Fit Pro are 
>>> essentially identical: both offer an IPX4 Ingress Protection rating, which 
>>> translates to “water splashes over 5-10 minutes have no harmful effect.” 
>>> That means you can work out with either pair of buds, but probably 
>>> shouldn’t rinse them off in the sink afterward.
>>> 
>>> Finally, what about weight? The AirPods Pro clock in at 5.4 grams per bud, 
>>> while the Beats Fit Pro are just a smidge heavier at 5.6 grams per bud. 
>>> However, there’s a larger difference in case size and case weight: the 
>>> AirPods Pro case is smaller and a little lighter at 45.6 grams, compared to 
>>> the Fit Pro’s 54.5 grams.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Credit: Reviewed / Lee Neikirk
>>> The Beats Fit Pro case is definitely the larger of the two.
>>> Unless you’re just really into the iconic (and admittedly useful) stem on 
>>> the AirPods Pro, the Beats Fit Pro offer a more stable and potentially more 
>>> comfortable fit while offering similar weight and the same waterproofing. 
>>> Their stabilizing wing makes them especially snug for workouts when 
>>> compared to the AirPods Pro.
>>> 
>>> ADVERTISEMENT
>>> Finally, while it's not a huge bonus, the Beats Fit Pro are also available 
>>> 

Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello All:
My ability to play through Bluetooth speakers is still acting the same as it 
did with previous iOS versions. I am now on iOS 15.1 with exactly the same 
problem. However I did figure out that you can create the problem not only with 
bard but with the regular music app also just follow the instructions above an 
open music instead of barred.
I’m hoping to find the case ID and report this to Apple today.


***  MQ ***


> On Apr 27, 2021, at 5:34 PM, Mickey Quenzer  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Steps to reproduce the problem
> Add a speaker to Bluetooth settings.
> Go into bard and start playing a book
> Use the volume up and down button to set the volume of the speaker you’re 
> playing through.
> While in bard just use voiceover normally.
> You’ll find that there are two volumes with voiceover. One of them is the 
> volume that you set in the rotor and the other one is actually unknown to me 
> at this point that one is very loud and uncontrollable.
> 
> Questions:
> One which volume setting is that voice coming from? To how do you control 
> that volume?
> Notes
> If you want to change set your system up to be normal again just disconnect 
> the Bluetooth 
> 
> 
> 
> *** MQ ***
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Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello Richard:
It’s been a long time but the problem still exists with iOS 15.1.
How do I find the case ID? I’d like to update the report but I don’t have the 
beta software installed on my iPhone 12 pro max.
Do I have to install the beta software first if so can you give me the URL to 
sign up for it again.
Thank you so much for all the help that you are to everybody on this list.


***  MQ ***


> On Apr 28, 2021, at 2:53 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  You should report it through the beta feedback form as well if you haven't.
> I'll report it if you share the case number so the reports will all show up 
> under the same issue.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2021, at 10:52 AM, Mickey Quenzer  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hello Richard: just wanted to let you know that The problem can also be 
>> created with Apple Music.
>> Sieghard, I thought this problem existed earlier than that but yes I am on 
>> the latest update of iOS and I also can create the problem with the beta 
>> software for iOS. I have reported it to Apple Accessibility for the current  
>> Version 14.5 iOS as they don’t track the beta software issues.
>> 
>> 
>> *** MQ ***
>> ***270-776-9871 ***
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel 
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 11:34:24 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers
>>  
>> Have  you updated to 14.5? This was not an issue prior to that update.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 8:08 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers
>> 
>> I use bluetooth speakers and headphones with bard and voice over all the 
>> time.  I've never had a problem where voice over is louder then my bard 
>> book.  I also have change with buttons off when it comes to volume.
>> 
>> On 4/28/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> > Which speaker do you have?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Richard
>> > "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
>> > but what they become by it."
>> > - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>> >
>> > Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> > Mickey Quenzer
>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 7:31 AM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers
>> >
>> > Hello everybody:
>> > I was able to get a hold of Apple accessibility and they log the 
>> > problem with their Apple support tools. I was able to duplicate the 
>> > problem for them.
>> > And Arnold your fix didn’t change anything but I’ll play with it 
>> > throughout the day. Thanks for your suggestion. I hope somebody else 
>> > can cause the trouble to because it’s very consistent it happens on my 
>> > iPhone X my iPhone
>> > 12 so I’ll keep you posted.
>> >
>> >
>> > *** MQ ***
>> > ***270-776-9871 ***
>> > 
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf 
>> > of Arnold Schmidt mailto:als5...@gmail.com>>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 8:09:11 AM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>> > Subject: Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers
>> >
>> > I wonder if this might help. When it happens, turn the volume on your 
>> > phone all the way down, until you don't hear anything. Now, turn the 
>> > volume on your speaker all the way down, hit it three or four times to 
>> > make sure it is all the way down. Now, start turning up the volume on 
>> > your phone until the volume is what you want. Or, sometimes, you have 
>> > to turn up the volume on your speaker, rather than the phone. 
>> > Sometimes one, sometimes the other. Lay around with it to see if you can 
>> > fix it.
>> >
>> > Arnold Schmidt
>> &

Re: Westminster Chimes Full updated for iOS15 compatibility.

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hey everyone today I talked about the chimes app. The strange thing is that all 
of a sudden the chimes started working. So just be patient for about an hour 
and see if that fixes the problem. Very weird but it worked.


*** MQ ***
***270-776-9871 ***

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Robin 
Frost 
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 5:00:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Westminster Chimes Full updated for iOS15 compatibility.

Hi,

I was so excited when a friend brought me this news this morning.  all
is working well on my 2 devices and I'm very pleased. As such I took the
time to email the app's developer at

supp...@luthersoft.com

and tweet to him


@luthersoft


to express my gratitude for its restoration. I also suggested that he
put a tip jar in its settings area or on his site if he didn't want to
give Apple a cut so people could contribute to its up keep should they
see fit to do so. I was one of the first to report its trouble while
iOS15 was still in beta so I also wanted to be one to express gratitude
for its restoration to its chiming glory. It makes my heart glad to be
an appreciative and grateful person. If anyone feels likewise do join me
in letting him know. I'm sure it can be quite meaningful to a developer
to not just hear when things break but also when things are going well
and are being enjoyed.

Take good care.

Robin


On 11/2/2021 12:57 PM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:
> Hello friends,
>
> For those interested Westminster Chimes Full has been updated for 
> compatibility with iOS15.
>
> I’ve updated but not tried it yet.
>
> Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Westminster Chimes Full updated for iOS15 compatibility.

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello:
I have the West Minster chimes light which had an update today. However I still 
can’t get this the chimes to work. I tried rebooting the iPhone and running the 
program again with the volume of chimes all the way up and when I select a time 
it doesn’t play. So I don’t know if it’s really fixed yet.


*** MQ ***
***270-776-9871 ***

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Larry 
Smith 
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 4:07:11 PM
To: 'Chuck Dean' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Westminster Chimes Full updated for iOS15 compatibility.

I updated west minster chime this afternoon. the time is announced in 24 hour 
format.. I can’t find any way to change this to 12 hour format. For example, 
4:30 is spoken as 16:30. Can anyone confirm this?

> On Nov 2, 2021, at 12:57 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
>
> Hello friends,
>
> For those interested Westminster Chimes Full has been updated for 
> compatibility with iOS15.
>
> I’ve updated but not tried it yet.
>
> Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Amazon

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello:
Yes I am having exactly the same problem and don’t know if it’s because of the 
latest update. I don’t know who to report it to either.
It’s most disturbing as I was trying to actually order some things and can’t do 
it. I can look for things I can find the list of things but when I click on a 
specific thing no information is shown that’s my scenario.



*** MQ ***
***270-776-9871 ***

From: 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 11:58:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Amazon

Hi all.
Is anyone else having trouble with the Amazon app? I don’t even know if I’ve 
done an update recently, it’s not in the list of recently updated apps. But 
when I search for something then pick a result I can’t read anything on the 
page apart from the search bar and bottom buttons. The whole middle bit is gone.
I have limited vision and I can see the page is there to start with but as soon 
as I tap on the screen the whole middle bit just goes blank. I’ve deleted and 
reinstalled the app but it has made no difference.
Does anyone have any advice?
Thanks
Richard

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Re: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello Richard:
Thanks for that information.
What I’ve learned from all of this is that in case you need it it’s a good idea 
to have your windows or Mac computer running the latest iTunes in case you need 
it. As far as the thing about having antivirus software turned off, I had to do 
this when I was doing installation of an iPhone 6 Plus a year and a half ago as 
it was not complete until I did this. So as a progression that’s what I’ve 
suggested people might want to do.

I wonder what kind of problems I’m going to have updating my wife’s iPhone if 
she decides to buy an iPhone 13?
She at this point has an iPhone 11. She’s looking at getting the iPhone Pro 13 
as it has a better camera any thought about that?


*** MQ ***
***270-776-9871 ***

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Richard 
Turner 
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 6:33:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be

The iOS was being installed wirelessly so no computers or computer viruses 
involved.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 10, 2021, at 4:25 PM, Mickey Quenzer  wrote:


Sometimes I anti-soft virus software causes the system to fail when you’re 
trying to update


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Thanks, Sieghard. I’ll remember that for future reference.



Alan



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 11:41 AM
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You don't have to keep the screen alive, it will update just fine with the 
screen locked.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: October 9, 2021 6:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be



Hi List,



I need some advice. I’m in process of setting up a new iPhone 13 Mini. I got it 
connected to my iPhone SE 2020 to do the device to device transfer. I got this 
started and got face ID set up and then I was prompted to update the new iPhone 
to iOS 15.01 which I began. This has been going on for about an hour and I’m 
losing patience. I’m also curious why in the world a new device is set by 
default to turn off after about 30 seconds. I’m having to touch the screen 
every 30 seconds to prevent the device from going to sleep which I believe will 
stop the iOS update. I’m hesitant to do a cold reset with the volume up, volume 
down, and power buttons but I’m losing patience.



I welcome your recommendations and thanks in advance.



Alan Lemly

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Re: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be

[Mickey Quenzer]

Sometimes I anti-soft virus software causes the system to fail when you’re 
trying to update


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Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 12:18:09 PM
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Subject: RE: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be


Thanks, Sieghard. I’ll remember that for future reference.



Alan



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 11:41 AM
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You don't have to keep the screen alive, it will update just fine with the 
screen locked.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: October 9, 2021 6:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be



Hi List,



I need some advice. I’m in process of setting up a new iPhone 13 Mini. I got it 
connected to my iPhone SE 2020 to do the device to device transfer. I got this 
started and got face ID set up and then I was prompted to update the new iPhone 
to iOS 15.01 which I began. This has been going on for about an hour and I’m 
losing patience. I’m also curious why in the world a new device is set by 
default to turn off after about 30 seconds. I’m having to touch the screen 
every 30 seconds to prevent the device from going to sleep which I believe will 
stop the iOS update. I’m hesitant to do a cold reset with the volume up, volume 
down, and power buttons but I’m losing patience.



I welcome your recommendations and thanks in advance.



Alan Lemly

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Re: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be

[Mickey Quenzer]

You also should temporary disable any antivirus software while using this 
method.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Alan 
Lemly 
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 12:49:30 AM
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Subject: RE: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be


I called AppleCare about the new iPhone still updating when the screen has gone 
to sleep and the rep said it should still update. I’m not sure I’m convinced. 
After waiting almost 3 hours for the iOS 15.01 upgrade, I rebooted the new 
iPhone and am now getting a screen that says reconnecting. There is a Cancel 
button in the upper left corner of that screen and when I double tap on it, I 
get a message asking me if I’m sure I want to stop transferring data which will 
cause the iPhone to be reset and erased. I’m assuming the transfer is the 
redownload of my 250+ apps from the App Store. When I get up in the morning, I 
will check the status and if it is still transferring data, I’m going to reset 
and start again. For one who has been using these devices as long as I have, I 
think Apple could do a far sight better at making the setup process easier and 
more intuitive.



Alan



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 11:28 PM
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When I got into a long delay, I called Apple Accessibility and ended up having 
to reboot both phones at the same time.

The update probably has to finish before it will let you do squat.

I've given feedback to Apple before about the 30 second (explitive) but it will 
take a lot more feedback to get them to change that I guess.

Perhaps we all need to put it to them as an accessibility issue and have new 
phones switch to never, or 5 minutes as sooon as VoiceOver is turned on.

Good luck.





Richard

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Jane Wagner











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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)



On Oct 9, 2021, at 7:50 PM, Pete Nalda 
mailto:lpna...@gmail.com>> wrote:

 What I would do is go to settings as soon as you get voiceover turned on, 
Then display and brightness and that’s where you can change the sleeptime and 
you can’t change it yesterday as a default to 30 but you can change it easy

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates

Louie P (Pete) Nalda

Facebook.com/lpnalda

Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda

Twitter: @lpnalda



On Oct 9, 2021, at 8:50 PM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:



Hi List,



I need some advice. I’m in process of setting up a new iPhone 13 Mini. I got it 
connected to my iPhone SE 2020 to do the device to device transfer. I got this 
started and got face ID set up and then I was prompted to update the new iPhone 
to iOS 15.01 which I began. This has been going on for about an hour and I’m 
losing patience. I’m also curious why in the world a new device is set by 
default to turn off after about 30 seconds. I’m having to touch the screen 
every 30 seconds to prevent the device from going to sleep which I believe will 
stop the iOS update. I’m hesitant to do a cold reset with the volume up, volume 
down, and power buttons but I’m losing patience.



I welcome your recommendations and thanks in advance.



Alan Lemly

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Re: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello Allen:
The best thing I would suggest you do if you’re still having trouble with the 
set up is to get iTunes running on either the Mac or a PC. Make sure you are 
running the latest iTunes software version. Another words check for updates 
before you connect your iPhone 13.
 then plug your iPhone 13 in.
Reboot using the volume up volume down side button hold the side button until 
you hear your iPhone connect.
Then you should be able to continue the update and it will work. What I found 
is the iPhone 15 software is too big and needs to be  using the iPhone iTunes 
program to do the old update method as we used to do a long time ago. This 
method is still used when you were having trouble with an over the Air app 
update.


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Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 12:49:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be


I called AppleCare about the new iPhone still updating when the screen has gone 
to sleep and the rep said it should still update. I’m not sure I’m convinced. 
After waiting almost 3 hours for the iOS 15.01 upgrade, I rebooted the new 
iPhone and am now getting a screen that says reconnecting. There is a Cancel 
button in the upper left corner of that screen and when I double tap on it, I 
get a message asking me if I’m sure I want to stop transferring data which will 
cause the iPhone to be reset and erased. I’m assuming the transfer is the 
redownload of my 250+ apps from the App Store. When I get up in the morning, I 
will check the status and if it is still transferring data, I’m going to reset 
and start again. For one who has been using these devices as long as I have, I 
think Apple could do a far sight better at making the setup process easier and 
more intuitive.



Alan



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 11:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be



When I got into a long delay, I called Apple Accessibility and ended up having 
to reboot both phones at the same time.

The update probably has to finish before it will let you do squat.

I've given feedback to Apple before about the 30 second (explitive) but it will 
take a lot more feedback to get them to change that I guess.

Perhaps we all need to put it to them as an accessibility issue and have new 
phones switch to never, or 5 minutes as sooon as VoiceOver is turned on.

Good luck.





Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner











website:  www.turner42.com



(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)



On Oct 9, 2021, at 7:50 PM, Pete Nalda 
mailto:lpna...@gmail.com>> wrote:

 What I would do is go to settings as soon as you get voiceover turned on, 
Then display and brightness and that’s where you can change the sleeptime and 
you can’t change it yesterday as a default to 30 but you can change it easy

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates

Louie P (Pete) Nalda

Facebook.com/lpnalda

Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda

Twitter: @lpnalda



On Oct 9, 2021, at 8:50 PM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:



Hi List,



I need some advice. I’m in process of setting up a new iPhone 13 Mini. I got it 
connected to my iPhone SE 2020 to do the device to device transfer. I got this 
started and got face ID set up and then I was prompted to update the new iPhone 
to iOS 15.01 which I began. This has been going on for about an hour and I’m 
losing patience. I’m also curious why in the world a new device is set by 
default to turn off after about 30 seconds. I’m having to touch the screen 
every 30 seconds to prevent the device from going to sleep which I believe will 
stop the iOS update. I’m hesitant to do a cold reset with the volume up, volume 
down, and power buttons but I’m losing patience.



I welcome your recommendations and thanks in advance.



Alan Lemly

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Re: Using Twitterific to follow someone.

[Mickey Quenzer]

Tell me the name of the TV station, and I will be able to help you  to do that.


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elliott 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2021 1:24:08 PM
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Subject: Using Twitterific to follow someone.

I’m trying to do a search to follow a tv station that I like.  How do I go 
about doing this Thanks.

Terri.

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Re: ios 14.7.1

[Mickey Quenzer]

Here is the information from the MacRumors website.
https://www.macrumors.com/2021/07/26/apple-releases-ios-and-ipados-14-7-1/amp/?__twitter_impression=true



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Subject: ios 14.7.1


Hi



I just updated to Ios 14.7.1, can somebody explain to me what  new things it 
has please?

Thanks in advance



Anthony

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Re: A Bluetooth Speaker question

[Mickey Quenzer]

Is the Sonos rome an airplay 2 speaker? If you have a Bose 500 speaker and a 
Sonos can you play both speakers at the same time like I can with my Apple TV?
With my Bose sound link which is a Bluetooth speaker, I can use the Bose 
connect app to put two of those speakers in party mode and stereo. Can the same 
thing be done with the Rome speaker?
I guess it is probablya  stereo speaker so that question is probably not 
appropriate.
I like the Bose sound link speaker as it is small and portable but I’m sure the 
Sonos speakers have better output.


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Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 4:11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: A Bluetooth Speaker question


Yeah I use to have my play one speakers mounted on the wall,



I did that myself but then it probably wasn’t fantastically right positioning  
but hey it worked fine and I never get people to do what I can do pretty much 
as well.







From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 19 July 2021 7:47 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Bluetooth Speaker question



Richard said it well, there really is no installation required unless you want 
the speakers wall mounted in which case you or somebody else would have to find 
a stud in your wall and screw the wall mount onto the wall. Apart from that you 
just find a shelf or whatever else to put the speaker on and your only 
requirement would be that you are near a wall outlet so you can plug it in, but 
of course you could use an extension cord if you are too far. Once the speaker 
is plugged in you open the app and it will recognize the new speaker and tell 
you what to do. Richard called the app "quite accessible", I am not sure what 
the "quite" part is because I think it is fully and entirely accessible and 
easy to use. I actually find it is so easy and well done that it's quite fun to 
set up a new speaker.

You can start with any speaker Sonos makes whether it's a Roam or a single 
Sonos SL and add anything else to it whenever you have the money or feel like 
it.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2021 6:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Bluetooth Speaker question



the Sonos App makes setting it up pretty easy and they have very good support 
if anything goes wrong.

It certainly can be a stand-alone item.

You will want to download the Sonos app for setting it up. The app is quite 
accessible with VoiceOver.

I was hesitant to get into Sonos because of the cost.

But, my wife and I had decided that in retirement we wanted a sound system that 
could go throughout the house.

A local high-end audio store came to do an assessment with recommendations.

It would have cost something like $1600 for them to hard-wire a system that 
would just cover the living room and kitchen.

We decided hard-wired was not the way to go.

When I brought up wireless, he said that Sonos would be the way to go.

To keep a long story, less long; they would have charged I think around $400 to 
install a Sonos system.

Thanks to Sieghard, I/we did it ourselves quite easily.

The app pretty well walks you through the process. Reading the instructions 
ahead on their web site helps.

I'll round off the numbers; but between January and May, we bought the Arc 
sound bar for our TV; $650, two Sonos 1 SL'S also for the living room for $170 
each; one Sonos 1 SL for my wife's office, $170, two Sonos 1 SL, $170 each, for 
my office; two Sonos 1's, $180 each, for the kitchen; and the Sonos Roam, $170, 
for the bedbroom or for taking outside.



We dealt with our local Video Only where we had bought our 43 inch Samsung TV 
last August. So he gave us some deals since we were buying several. We bought 3 
of the SL 1's and the two Sonos 1's the same day...

The arc, Sonos 1's, and the Roam all have the option of using Alexa or Google 
Assistant.

So, to get around to your question; it will be very easy to install whatever 
you want in an apartment.

Sorry for the long winded answer.





Richard

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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt



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On Jul 18, 2021, at 6:07 PM, Duane Steele 
mailto:duanestee...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I wish to thank everybody who has offered suggestions about my bluetooth 
speaker issue. I'll certainly consider the Sonos Roam. Can it work by itself 
without a whole home theater system, and, if, at some point, I wanted a 
complete Sonos outfit, is it difficult to install, in, say, an apartment? This 
question might belabor the issue and keep the subject going for another day or 
two, but since some of you have the products, you can answer on good 

Re: A Bluetooth Speaker question

[Mickey Quenzer]

Most airplay to compatible speakers are only available through Wi-Fi.
Bluetooth can always be used even without Wi-Fi. But I don’t quite understand 
your question. In general, I find that the airplay to devices work better than 
the Bluetooth devices. However, I’m not really sure if that’s what you’re 
asking about either. Give me some more information and I’ll try to help you 
figure it out it is confusing when to use what and what works with what.


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From: Mickey Quenzer 
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2021 11:40:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: A Bluetooth Speaker question

Tell me what Bose speakers you have? I might be able to help out with that 
question



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Duane 
Steele 
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2021 11:25:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: A Bluetooth Speaker question

Which brings up another question. What's the advantage of a speaker being able 
to connect with WiFi, and also be able to pair via bluetooth? If your device is 
already using WiFi, why should the speaker also have to use WiFi? Not sure I 
understand how this works.


>
> On Jul 18, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> Keep in mind that while the Sonos Roam can work as a Bluetooth speaker it is 
> meant to work on WiFi when you are at home and if you want to play something 
> that is playing on your iPhone you would use Airplay to send it to the 
> speaker.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A Bluetooth Speaker question
>
> Well, the Sonos Roam, which is both Wi-Fi and Buetooth, has aprox. 10 hours 
> of battery life on a full charge, has tone settings if you go through the 
> Sonos app.  You can turn on or off the Loudness feature that boosts the base 
> for everything; which I find will cause it to clip at anything but a very low 
> volume.
>
> But, it actually has settings to adjust the base and treble on a slider that 
> works.
> We have other Sonos speakers, so it made sense to get this one.
> $169.
>
> And has been pointed out, there are some very basic settings in the music app 
> on the iPhone.  And quite a few pre-set settings for different styles of 
> music in there as well.
>
> The Roam gives plenty of volume and has great sound.
>
>
>
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
> Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
> Steele
> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 10:47 AM
> To: IPhone List 
> Subject: A Bluetooth Speaker question
>
> Hello iPhone Listers,
>
> I have a Bluetooth question. I own several speakers including a couple of 
> Bose ones. Unfortunately, none of my speakers offers the option to control 
> the amount of bass and treble being put out. Sometimes, I think the Bose 
> units put out too much bass. Does anyone have any idea what kind of speakers 
> offers tone options? Thanks in advance.
>
>
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
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Re: A Bluetooth Speaker question

[Mickey Quenzer]

Tell me what Bose speakers you have? I might be able to help out with that 
question



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Duane 
Steele 
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2021 11:25:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: A Bluetooth Speaker question

Which brings up another question. What's the advantage of a speaker being able 
to connect with WiFi, and also be able to pair via bluetooth? If your device is 
already using WiFi, why should the speaker also have to use WiFi? Not sure I 
understand how this works.


>
> On Jul 18, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> Keep in mind that while the Sonos Roam can work as a Bluetooth speaker it is 
> meant to work on WiFi when you are at home and if you want to play something 
> that is playing on your iPhone you would use Airplay to send it to the 
> speaker.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A Bluetooth Speaker question
>
> Well, the Sonos Roam, which is both Wi-Fi and Buetooth, has aprox. 10 hours 
> of battery life on a full charge, has tone settings if you go through the 
> Sonos app.  You can turn on or off the Loudness feature that boosts the base 
> for everything; which I find will cause it to clip at anything but a very low 
> volume.
>
> But, it actually has settings to adjust the base and treble on a slider that 
> works.
> We have other Sonos speakers, so it made sense to get this one.
> $169.
>
> And has been pointed out, there are some very basic settings in the music app 
> on the iPhone.  And quite a few pre-set settings for different styles of 
> music in there as well.
>
> The Roam gives plenty of volume and has great sound.
>
>
>
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
> Steele
> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 10:47 AM
> To: IPhone List 
> Subject: A Bluetooth Speaker question
>
> Hello iPhone Listers,
>
> I have a Bluetooth question. I own several speakers including a couple of 
> Bose ones. Unfortunately, none of my speakers offers the option to control 
> the amount of bass and treble being put out. Sometimes, I think the Bose 
> units put out too much bass. Does anyone have any idea what kind of speakers 
> offers tone options? Thanks in advance.
>
>
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
>
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Re: Supersense Presents Live: a Free Virtual Concert

[Mickey Quenzer]

Yes I was interested in that concert but missed it because I didn’t have a way 
of putting it in the calendar. It would be nice if the chat work the same as 
the messages chat. Not sure how to influence that though!


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of William 
Outman 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 9:40:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Supersense Presents Live: a Free Virtual Concert

Hello, I enjoyed the concert last night,and hope to still tip the performers if 
I can find the correct method to do so. It would probably be by Paypal.
This was the first time taking a Youtube stream live for me, and the first time 
using their chat feature.
The VoiceOver accessibility was good, and I had to create a channel to use the 
chat apparently. Entering the text for my chat wasn’t as straigtforward as I 
anticipated it should be.  I had to double tap on the custom emoji button to 
get text to enter and allow the send button to be active, instead of merely 
double tapping on the text field button as would normally be the case.
I’ll check the web site for contact and tipping info.

Bill Outman


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 13, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Shane Lowe  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> This isn't specifically iOS related, but it is an event I'm really
> excited about, and wanted to send to you all since you've so kindly
> supported our work thus far. This will be a pretty significant
> promotion advocating for blind artists and mobile technology, and I
> thought you may be interested. :)
>
> As you may know, I work for the company that develops apps like
> Supersense and Super Lidar, but you probably don't know that we're
> putting on a free virtual concert! To be a concert promoter has been a
> dream of mine since I was really young, and now I am fully submerged
> in putting on an international live event designed to spread the power
> of blind artists. I am also submerged in sound checks, videography,
> and technical difficulties, but that's beside the point!
> The show features some of the world's best blind performers (like
> Precious Perez, Question, John Dowling Jr, and Tony Gebhard) , as well
> as internationally-acclaimed Rock and Jazz guitarist Andy Timmons. If
> I were to throw in a few incredible musicians from the Berklee College
> of Music as well, I think I could adequately sum up the show.
> Everything starts Thursday, July 15 at 7:00 PM Eastern time, and you
> can find more info at the Youtube link below.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdcMO7MdG-Q
> You can also join the preshow event on Clubhouse by searching for Supersense.
>
> See you there!
>
> All the best,
> --
> Shane Lowe.
> Community Operations Manager @ Mediate
> Mobile (call or text): +1 502-435-2671
> Learn more at http://supersense.app
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Re: Battery Is not Charging and I can't Type

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello:
First of all I would do a hard reset which is volume down volume up and side 
button and hold the side button until the phone gets to the power off mode make 
sure you flip the power off and shut it down then reboot. If that doesn’t work 
unplug it and plug it back in and if that doesn’t work I would take it to Apple 
if you still got the phone under warranty I don’t know how the battery can be 
under warranty in the phone not so that would probably work out. But you might 
want to call Apple first and make sure.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
CrazyEyez 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 9:50:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Battery Is not Charging and I can't Type

Hi,
Maybe its a dumb idea, but have  you tried backing up your phone and doing a 
restore?
If it doesn't help, i'd take it to apple.
See what they say, specially if your device still has warranty.
Good luck.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 28, 2021, at 10:21 PM, Fazil  wrote:



Hi, Group.

Vancouver is in the strong grip of a massive heatwave but I am not sure whether 
my problem has anything to do with heat.

Since yesterday, my iPhone8 with iOS14.6 is not charging beyond %80 and the 
phone has become least responsive or no response at all when I type.

My battery is still in warranty, should I take it to the AppleStore?

Thanks!

Thanks!



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Re: Accessible App for a Good Robot Vacuum Machine

[Mickey Quenzer]

I have a question about your vacuum that you got.
I copied down that it is thereShark Ninja,

Are there different models? Did you get yours on sale? What was the cost? I’m 
trying to think of something to get for my wife we have one Guide dog who is a 
black  lab golden retriever cross who has lots of hair and us yeah Papillion 
who has long hair. We have  wall-to-wall carpet in three rooms. we have a rug 
in the center of our living room. The rest of the house is laminated floors.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Ann 
Byrne 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:36:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Accessible App for a Good Robot Vacuum Machine

It's a Shark Ninja, carpet/floor cleaner that
wanders around the house eating dog hair and anything else it can find.
At 10:00 PM 6/27/2021, you wrote:
>Sorry I'm missing something here,
>
>I know sharks swim in the sea,
>
>But what is this shark you speak of re vacuuming
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
>Sent: Monday, 28 June 2021 2:14 pm
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: Accessible App for a Good Robot Vacuum Machine
>
>I have a Shark, and it cleans better than my
>roomba did.  We have three dogs, though, and it
>was hard for the Roomba to keep up.  The app works well with the iPhone.
>
>It's expensive, though.
>At 08:33 PM 6/27/2021, you wrote:
>
> >Hi Aleeha,
> >
> >
> >Thanks for sharing. I̢۪ll check it out!
>!
> >
> >
> >Cheering for you!
> >Danny
> >
> >
> >On 27 Jun 2021, at 12:12 PM, Aleeha Dudley
>  wrote:
> >
> >Hi,
> >Tha app for the Shark robot seems to be pretty good, although mine̢۪s
>
> >not set up yet. I just bought it on prime Day.
> >Hope that helps,
> >Aleeha
> >
> >>On Jun 27, 2021, at 10:45 AM, Danny Leung
> >><dlng321.mob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi listers,
> >>
> >>I am planning to purchase a wireless Robot vacuum machine. If you own
> >>one, may I know your pinion and recommendation? You can email me
> >>privately if needed.
> >>
> >>I am most interest to know about the
> >>accessibility of the app; the model that is worth the value. And
> >>everything̢۪s else.
>.
> >>
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> >>
> >>
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Re: Bose frames

[Mickey Quenzer]

If you want sound quality for music or television kind of stuff then the bus 
frames are better if you just want information about your surroundings in track 
loud noise areas then the aftershocks are probably a good option. I don’t know 
about either since I haven’t paid had them but that’s my understanding from 
talking to different people.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
Cristobal Muñoz 
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2021 12:22:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Bose frames

I wear tinted glasses when out and about sometimes to keep the wind and or dust 
out of my eyes and being blind, I and I'm guessing others may have the same 
experience where you get tired of keeping your eyes open and you're just more 
comfortable sometimes with your eyes closed depending on the situation or 
circumstance and don’t' want to be bothered with questions on whether you're 
awake or if something's wrong etc.
While I'm mildly intrigued with these Bose frames, I too prefer the Aftershokz 
concept and keeping my ears open and unobstructed. That and I've got a big 
noggin. So the frames would probably be a tight fit for me anyway.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2021 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

They are sunglasses which have speakers and microphones built into the arms or 
whatever you call these things which go from the frame around the lenses to 
your ear.
Personally I wouldn't be interested simply because I am completely blind and I 
don't see the need for wearing glasses, I'd much rather use the Aftershokz if I 
want audio which doesn't cover my ears.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ibraheem 
Fakir
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bose frames

How do these stack up  against the aftershocks product line?

Mistakes sent from my iPhone

> On May 29, 2021, at 8:43 PM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>
> Can you all say open ear surroundsound baby? Yeah! :-) LOL! You know one 
> time I was watching a audio description of a scene or a TV show rather, and 
> the audio describer sounded so close and it sounded really nearby and it kind 
> of freaked me out but it was good it left me on the edge of my seat because 
> well, It must have been a very intense scene! Those Bose frames tempos are 
> amazing I highly recommend them if I don’t recommend them enough already!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 29, 2021, at 5:35 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I agree with chella I have had mine now since February.
>> I use them with Aira to help me with my bowling practice. the thing I found 
>> awesome is how they sound while watching a movie.
>> - Original Message - From: "CHELA Robles"
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 4:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: Bose frames
>>
>>
>> Hello technically the tempos have what you specified that you were
>> looking for as far as the microphone microphones are really great and
>> I have to disagree on the sensor thing because the sensors are also
>> present here to the S they may not be mentioned in the specs but
>> that’s also there as well they’re heavily constructed I love my pair
>> and the battery lasts a whole lot longer I like the cable that it
>> came with it’s a regular USB see cable not the magnet type. The audio
>> is much clearer and you can totally hear your surroundings and I have
>> to agree I do love the polarized lenses as well. If you have any
>> questions feel free to email me off list my email is
>> cdrobles...@gmail.com Chela Robles
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
 On May 29, 2021, at 1:18 PM, Beverly Wieland  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am a month behind in reading mail from this list.  Hope you will forgive 
>>> me for asking questions on Bose Frames.
>>> I didn't know about them and am absolutely fascinated by the idea!  I want 
>>> headphones I can wear while walking outside that would allow me to listen 
>>> to GPS directions from my phone as well as sounds in the environment.  The 
>>> open ear technology sounds like it will do that.
>>>
>>> Since I have no vision, not even light perception, the lenses are not 
>>> important except that polarized do seem to be better than non-polarized.
>>> The Tempo seems to be highly recommended by list members.  However I 
>>> noticed that the older alto has two features not mentioned in any of the 
>>> newer models:
>>> Integrated microphone
>>> Multi-directional motion sensor
>>>
>>> Do the newer models have microphones for taking calls or giving commands to 
>>> the phone?
>>> What is the advantage of a multidirectional motion sensor, either in 
>>> general or for me as a blind user?
>>> I hope someone has tried the alto and knows what this does.
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance for your help, as well as for bearing with me on this 
>>> 

Question about sound used to identify the Home screen, Control center and App switcher

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello:
I have a perplexing problem.
I am working with a client who has turned off the sound that your iPhone makes 
when you slide up from the bottom or down from the top of the screen. Does 
anybody know what that sound is called and how do you turn it back on?
I’ve never had this problem before. Mine has always worked and I never wanted 
to turn it off!

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[Mickey Quenzer]

Personally, I bought the Bose sound link Bluetooth speakers. I bought two of 
them with protective cases.
You they are advertised as waterproof.
 you can have two of them for left and right channel stereo. I will send you 
the linkBose SoundLink Micro: Small... 
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Midnight Blue Protective Case for Bose SoundLink Micro Bluetooth Speaker, Best 
Color and Shape Matching, Featured Secure and Easy Pulling Out Strap Design, 
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Duncan 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 5:02:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Water resistant bluetooth speaker?

Hi, I'm in the market for a water resistant Bluetooth speaker. I'd like the 
kind where voiceover will stay on my device and not go to the speaker. It would 
be a bonus if the speaker was compatible with Alexa, but that’s not a must.

Any suggestions?

So far Sound Core speakers look pretty cool. Also I read about a magnetic, 
expandable one from POW.

Thanks for your input,
Traci

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Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello Richard: just wanted to let you know that The problem can also be created 
with Apple Music.
Sieghard, I thought this problem existed earlier than that but yes I am on the 
latest update of iOS and I also can create the problem with the beta software 
for iOS. I have reported it to Apple Accessibility for the current  Version 
14.5 iOS as they don’t track the beta software issues.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel 
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 11:34:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers

Have  you updated to 14.5? This was not an issue prior to that update.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 8:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers

I use bluetooth speakers and headphones with bard and voice over all the time.  
I've never had a problem where voice over is louder then my bard book.  I also 
have change with buttons off when it comes to volume.

On 4/28/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Which speaker do you have?
>
>
>
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it,
> but what they become by it."
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>
> Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Mickey Quenzer
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 7:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers
>
> Hello everybody:
> I was able to get a hold of Apple accessibility and they log the
> problem with their Apple support tools. I was able to duplicate the
> problem for them.
> And Arnold your fix didn’t change anything but I’ll play with it
> throughout the day. Thanks for your suggestion. I hope somebody else
> can cause the trouble to because it’s very consistent it happens on my
> iPhone X my iPhone
> 12 so I’ll keep you posted.
>
>
> *** MQ ***
> ***270-776-9871 ***
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf
> of Arnold Schmidt mailto:als5...@gmail.com>>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 8:09:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers
>
> I wonder if this might help. When it happens, turn the volume on your
> phone all the way down, until you don't hear anything. Now, turn the
> volume on your speaker all the way down, hit it three or four times to
> make sure it is all the way down. Now, start turning up the volume on
> your phone until the volume is what you want. Or, sometimes, you have
> to turn up the volume on your speaker, rather than the phone.
> Sometimes one, sometimes the other. Lay around with it to see if you can fix 
> it.
>
> Arnold Schmidt
>
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
>
> On Apr 28, 2021, at 8:18 AM, Mickey Quenzer
> mailto:mickey.quen...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hello Richard:
>
> Change with Buttons Is off.
>
>
>
> *** MQ ***
> ***270-776-9871 ***
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf
> of Richard Turner
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 6:10:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: RE: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers
>
>
> Check your settings, Sound, change with buttons.
>
> If that is not off, that’s your problem.
>
> I keep that setting off, so the volume buttons don’t mess with VoiceOver.
>
> I just connected a Bluetooth speaker, played a BARD book, playing with
> the volume buttons all over the place, and VoiceOver never got out of line.
> I.E. Its volume stayed normal.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it,
> but what they become by it."
>
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>
>
>
> Web site:
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Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello:
Hey Rich I think you’re correct in fact I’ve never had it happen with AirPlay 
speakers but with Bose speakers that are Bluetooth and also echo speakers that 
are Bluetooth I’ve had it happen so if you can stay away from Bluetooth 
speakers you’re OK.
But if you try to use Bluetooth speakers you should be able to reproduce the 
problem.



*** MQ ***
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Richard 
Turner 
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 10:21:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers


Well, since my speaker doesn’t have that behavior, maybe it is not speaker 
specific, but maybe a class of speakers.

Those are “smart” devices, Smart being a very iffy term, while mine is a dumb 
speaker with no frills.



I will try to connect my iPhone to our Echo Show and see if that happens, which 
should help figure out this crazy tech strangeness.







Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mickey 
Quenzer
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 8:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers



Hello Richard:

I have the Bose sound link speakers.

But it doesn’t really matter I also have an echo to and an echo plus and I can 
make the problem happen on them also. So to me it’s not speaker related.





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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 9:38:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers



Which speaker do you have?







Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mickey 
Quenzer
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 7:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers



Hello everybody:

I was able to get a hold of Apple accessibility and they log the problem with 
their Apple support tools. I was able to duplicate the problem for them.

And Arnold your fix didn’t change anything but I’ll play with it throughout the 
day. Thanks for your suggestion. I hope somebody else can cause the trouble to 
because it’s very consistent it happens on my iPhone X my iPhone 12 so I’ll 
keep you posted.





*** MQ ***

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Arnold 
Schmidt mailto:als5...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 8:09:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers



I wonder if this might help. When it happens, turn the volume on your phone all 
the way down, until you don't hear anything. Now, turn the volume on your 
speaker all the way down, hit it three or four times to make sure it is all the 
way down. Now, start turning up the volume on your phone until the

volume is what you want. Or, sometimes, you have to turn up the volume on your 
speaker, rather than the phone. Sometimes one, sometimes the other. Lay around 
with it to see if you can fix it.



Arnold Schmidt



Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Apr 28, 2021, at 8:18 AM, Mickey Quenzer 
mailto:mickey.quen...@gmail.com>> wrote:



Hello Richard:



Change with Buttons Is off.







*** MQ ***

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 6:10:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello Richard:
I have the Bose sound link speakers.
But it doesn’t really matter I also have an echo to and an echo plus and I can 
make the problem happen on them also. So to me it’s not speaker related.


*** MQ ***
***270-776-9871 ***

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Richard 
Turner 
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 9:38:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers


Which speaker do you have?







Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900



Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>







From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mickey 
Quenzer
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 7:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers



Hello everybody:

I was able to get a hold of Apple accessibility and they log the problem with 
their Apple support tools. I was able to duplicate the problem for them.

And Arnold your fix didn’t change anything but I’ll play with it throughout the 
day. Thanks for your suggestion. I hope somebody else can cause the trouble to 
because it’s very consistent it happens on my iPhone X my iPhone 12 so I’ll 
keep you posted.





*** MQ ***

***270-776-9871 ***



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Arnold 
Schmidt mailto:als5...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 8:09:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers



I wonder if this might help. When it happens, turn the volume on your phone all 
the way down, until you don't hear anything. Now, turn the volume on your 
speaker all the way down, hit it three or four times to make sure it is all the 
way down. Now, start turning up the volume on your phone until the

volume is what you want. Or, sometimes, you have to turn up the volume on your 
speaker, rather than the phone. Sometimes one, sometimes the other. Lay around 
with it to see if you can fix it.



Arnold Schmidt



Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Apr 28, 2021, at 8:18 AM, Mickey Quenzer 
mailto:mickey.quen...@gmail.com>> wrote:



Hello Richard:



Change with Buttons Is off.







*** MQ ***

***270-776-9871 ***



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 6:10:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers



Check your settings, Sound, change with buttons.

If that is not off, that’s your problem.

I keep that setting off, so the volume buttons don’t mess with VoiceOver.

I just connected a Bluetooth speaker, played a BARD book, playing with the 
volume buttons all over the place, and VoiceOver never got out of line.  I.E. 
Its volume stayed normal.









Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900



Web site: 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7Ca6b750118d5f46be158f08d90a52475c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637552170757323419%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=lno82Otv4M8zY5nhEL%2BePl3voTxcb9wok9kGxkecseE%3D=0>







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mickey 
Quenzer
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:34 PM
To: Abridged Recipients 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers





Steps to reproduce the problem

Add a speaker to Bluetooth settings.

Go into bard and start playing a book

Use the volume up and down button to set the volume of the speaker you’re 
playing through.

While in bard just use voiceover normally.

You’ll find that there are two volumes with voiceover. One of them is the 
volume that you set in the rotor and the other one is actually unknown to me at 
this point that one is very loud and uncontrollable.



Questions:

One which volume setting is that voice coming from? To how do you control that 
volume?

Notes

If you want to change set your system up to be normal again just disconnect the 
Bluetooth







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Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello everybody:
I was able to get a hold of Apple accessibility and they log the problem with 
their Apple support tools. I was able to duplicate the problem for them.
And Arnold your fix didn’t change anything but I’ll play with it throughout the 
day. Thanks for your suggestion. I hope somebody else can cause the trouble to 
because it’s very consistent it happens on my iPhone X my iPhone 12 so I’ll 
keep you posted.


*** MQ ***
***270-776-9871 ***

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Arnold 
Schmidt 
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 8:09:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers

I wonder if this might help. When it happens, turn the volume on your phone all 
the way down, until you don't hear anything. Now, turn the volume on your 
speaker all the way down, hit it three or four times to make sure it is all the 
way down. Now, start turning up the volume on your phone until the
volume is what you want. Or, sometimes, you have to turn up the volume on your 
speaker, rather than the phone. Sometimes one, sometimes the other. Lay around 
with it to see if you can fix it.

Arnold Schmidt


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Apr 28, 2021, at 8:18 AM, Mickey Quenzer  wrote:


Hello Richard:

Change with Buttons Is off.



*** MQ ***
***270-776-9871 ***

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Richard 
Turner 
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 6:10:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers


Check your settings, Sound, change with buttons.

If that is not off, that’s your problem.

I keep that setting off, so the volume buttons don’t mess with VoiceOver.

I just connected a Bluetooth speaker, played a BARD book, playing with the 
volume buttons all over the place, and VoiceOver never got out of line.  I.E. 
Its volume stayed normal.









Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900



Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>







From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mickey 
Quenzer
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:34 PM
To: Abridged Recipients 
Subject: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers





Steps to reproduce the problem

Add a speaker to Bluetooth settings.

Go into bard and start playing a book

Use the volume up and down button to set the volume of the speaker you’re 
playing through.

While in bard just use voiceover normally.

You’ll find that there are two volumes with voiceover. One of them is the 
volume that you set in the rotor and the other one is actually unknown to me at 
this point that one is very loud and uncontrollable.



Questions:

One which volume setting is that voice coming from? To how do you control that 
volume?

Notes

If you want to change set your system up to be normal again just disconnect the 
Bluetooth







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Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello Richard:

Change with Buttons Is off.



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Turner 
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 6:10:10 PM
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Subject: RE: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers


Check your settings, Sound, change with buttons.

If that is not off, that’s your problem.

I keep that setting off, so the volume buttons don’t mess with VoiceOver.

I just connected a Bluetooth speaker, played a BARD book, playing with the 
volume buttons all over the place, and VoiceOver never got out of line.  I.E. 
Its volume stayed normal.









Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mickey 
Quenzer
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:34 PM
To: Abridged Recipients 
Subject: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers





Steps to reproduce the problem

Add a speaker to Bluetooth settings.

Go into bard and start playing a book

Use the volume up and down button to set the volume of the speaker you’re 
playing through.

While in bard just use voiceover normally.

You’ll find that there are two volumes with voiceover. One of them is the 
volume that you set in the rotor and the other one is actually unknown to me at 
this point that one is very loud and uncontrollable.



Questions:

One which volume setting is that voice coming from? To how do you control that 
volume?

Notes

If you want to change set your system up to be normal again just disconnect the 
Bluetooth







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Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers

[Mickey Quenzer]

Steps to reproduce the problem

Add a speaker to Bluetooth settings.

Go into bard and start playing a book

Use the volume up and down button to set the volume of the speaker you’re 
playing through.

While in bard just use voiceover normally.

You’ll find that there are two volumes with voiceover. One of them is the 
volume that you set in the rotor and the other one is actually unknown to me at 
this point that one is very loud and uncontrollable.


Questions:

One which volume setting is that voice coming from? To how do you control that 
volume?

Notes

If you want to change set your system up to be normal again just disconnect the 
Bluetooth



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Re: tramendous voiceover bluetooth speaker bug

[Mickey Quenzer]

I’m going to start a new thread that shows a problem I’m trying to document so 
I can report it to Apple I’m pretty sure it’s still happening with iOS beta 
which I just installed. So look out for a new thread.
Take care and I hope we can narrow this down and get it fixed. I don’t think 
it’s related to a specific Bluetooth speaker.


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Turner 
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 12:47:41 PM
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Subject: RE: tramendous voiceover bluetooth speaker bug


There are no instructions.

If you can “airplay” to it, then VoiceOver should stay on the phone.

If it is Bluetooth, then it may or may not leave the voice on the phone, that 
seems to vary widely between speakers.



Try selecting Airplay fron the control center and see if that speaker is an 
option.





Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 10:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: tramendous voiceover bluetooth speaker bug



I’m trying to get voiceover to remain on my device too while the audio plays 
through my belcan speaker, and can’t, can somebody give me instructions?



Sent from 
Mail
 for Windows 10



From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 12:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: tramendous voiceover bluetooth speaker bug



I just turned on my Logitech Wanderboom 2 bluetooth speaker with nothing 
playing and after audio switched to the speaker Voiceover sounded entirely 
normal, not loud and certainly not fast. I then played a song using the Music 
app and again turned on the speaker. After the music came out of the speakerr I 
noticed for the first time that Voiceover remained on my device and now it was 
indeed louder and there were sort of times when I swiped where it sounded 
normal and then peaked, not normal, but still no change in Voiceover speech 
rate. I then used the rotor to get to Audio Destination and switched to 
"External Audio". At this point my music played on the bluetooth speaker and 
Voiceover also came through the speaker and here the volume was normal, audio 
ducking worked, but there were no fluctuations in volume.



I then tried the same with my new Sonos Roam except I selected it as an audio 
destination in the Music app which means I used Airplay to send the music. Here 
Voiceover remained on my device as expected and it sounded entirely normal, not 
louder, no volume fluctuations at all.





Best regards,

Sieghard



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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 8:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: tramendous voiceover bluetooth speaker bug



If I airplay to our Onkyo receiver, the speech rate of VoiceOver stays the 
same, but the volume does get rather loud on the phone.

The music plays through the receiver just fine and the voice stays on the 
phone, which is great, but the volume is a problem.

I’ll report it.





Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900



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davycupp...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 8:34 AM
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Subject: tramendous voiceover bluetooth speaker bug



Hi folks



When connecting a bluetooth speaker voiceover wil start talking on your phone 
at a rate of 100% very loud. This bug was already present but after 1 or 2 
seconds it came back to normal, now VO stays 100%. So please do report this to 
accessibil...@apple.com

Davy

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Re: Anyone Having Issues with BARD App?

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Hello:
Just a quick question what is the migration to the cloud all about? Thanks.


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Hi Joe,

The NS finished round 1 of migration to the cloud last week. The first time I 
used the BARD Mobile app to search the BARD website on my iPhone SE 2020, I was 
prompted to log in and my user ID and password were already filled in. I 
executed the log in and have not been prompted to do so since. You might 
suggest that your friend close the BARD Mobile app out of the App Switcher, 
restart her device, and try again. If she continues to have issues, suggest she 
write to nlsdownl...@loc.gov for assistance. They are very good about helping.

Alan Lemly

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Subject: Anyone Having Issues with BARD App?

Hi, is anyone having trouble logging into their BARD app? I can get in just 
fine on my own device, but a friend is having issues with hers.
It ll appear to log her in. When she goes to double tap on a book, however, the 
app prompts her to log in. She s getting some sort of a Failed error message.

Thanks for any tips,

Joe

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Re: An Apple Music Question

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello:
What I would suggest is that you document the songs that are missing in the 
library versus the songs that are there in your playlist and then send a 
message documenting that information to Apple Support.
I’ve seen strange things happening lately with Apple music. Sometimes you 
search for a song by saying what is the name of this song and it finds it but 
you double tap and don’t get the song in your library.
Also I’ve seen tracks for instance from Ray Stevens that are no longer available


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Steele 
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020 9:45:20 AM
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Subject: An Apple Music Question

Hello iPhone listers,

I have noticed sometimes when pulling up an album from my APPLE Music library 
that tracks that once were there are now missing. Yet if I pull up certain 
playlists containing those tracks, they're in the playlist. Thus, the album I 
wish to play in its entirity seems damaged because songs won't even appear in 
the tracklist. Has anyone else with an Apple Music subscription experienced 
this problem, and, if so, how have you solved it? Thanks.


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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Re: Restoring from backup

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I would suggest based on my experiences that you use iTunes and windows and 
make a encrypted backup.
Then when you install when you restore you Will end up with a message at on 
your iPhone that says swipe up to upgrade.


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I had to have my phone replaced last week due to a fault. I’ve restored from a 
backup, which as far as I can tell has completed successfully. However now I 
want to upgrade to the latest iOS. When I try to do this, I’m told the restore 
from backup hasn’t completed. Is there anything I can do about this, or do I 
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Re: Trouble with an edit field in the You Version Bible App

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello Robin:
are you talking about the Bible app from  youversion? I’m trying to find the 
exact location so I can look at the edit field on my 10 S max. So if you could 
give some specific guidelines like which tab it isin  I’m assuming it’s in one 
of the tabs where you communicate with people of course but it’s hard for me to 
find the exact spot you’re talking about.
Let me know and I’ll be glad to help.



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Baker 
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 10:21:12 AM
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Subject: Re: Trouble with an edit field in the You Version Bible App

I have this problem using the 6S plus phone. I’ve only been able to make the 
double tap and hold gesture work 1 or 2 times. It shouldn’t have to be that 
difficult to use, in my opinion.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 15, 2020, at 8:22 AM, Robin Frost  wrote:



Hi,

That used to work for me too but now that won’t even work on my 12 Pro Max.  I 
wish it did.

Now I have taken to finding the edit field’s approximate screen location hover 
over it, toggle VoiceOver off with the power button tap on the field and it 
activates then I can turn VoiceOver back on and type into it. I wish double tap 
and hold still worked for me as it used to once upon a time.

Take good care.

Robin





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Facer
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 8:50 AM
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Subject: Re: Trouble with an edit field in the You Version Bible App



Hi,



I have this same problem. How I get around it is do a double tap and hold on 
the edit field and then it will work. I don’t know hwy this happens, but that 
is how i fix it.



Jenn

Jenn and Kumi



On Dec 15, 2020, at 5:02 AM, Robin Frost 
mailto:robin...@outlook.com>> wrote:



Hi,

I hope this finds all happy and well.

I write today because I’m having the strangest issue with an edit field within 
this app.  Specifically in the bible plans area when one is in the talk it over 
area I am finding that the edit field for entering your thoughts activates just 
fine with a double tap on an iPhone 12 mini but simply won’t activate no matter 
what I do on an iPhone 12 Pro Max.  Both phones are running version 14.3 of the 
operating system and the same version of the You Version Bible app.

I am wondering if those who are smarter than I am or who are perhaps code 
writers might know what might make an edit field not responsive on a specific 
model of device as opposed to being universally broken. I’m trying to gather as 
much information as I can so that when I report that it is still broken perhaps 
if I give them something meaningful with which to work they might be less 
likely to swat me aside like an annoying fly. 

In all seriousness if anyone can add to my understanding of this issue or offer 
a work-around it’d make me ever so happy.

Thanks in advance.

Robin





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Re: Trouble with an edit field in the You Version Bible App

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hey Robin:
You might want to report this to you version so they can look at what’s going 
on.
I haven’t seen that situation where the edit field works for some models but 
not others. I don’t have other models to test with. You might also let 
accessibility from Apple know about it too. Sorry you’re having so much trouble!


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Robin 
Frost 
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 8:22:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Trouble with an edit field in the You Version Bible App


Hi,

That used to work for me too but now that won’t even work on my 12 Pro Max.  I 
wish it did.

Now I have taken to finding the edit field’s approximate screen location hover 
over it, toggle VoiceOver off with the power button tap on the field and it 
activates then I can turn VoiceOver back on and type into it. I wish double tap 
and hold still worked for me as it used to once upon a time.

Take good care.

Robin





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 8:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trouble with an edit field in the You Version Bible App



Hi,



I have this same problem. How I get around it is do a double tap and hold on 
the edit field and then it will work. I don’t know hwy this happens, but that 
is how i fix it.



Jenn

Jenn and Kumi



On Dec 15, 2020, at 5:02 AM, Robin Frost 
mailto:robin...@outlook.com>> wrote:



Hi,

I hope this finds all happy and well.

I write today because I’m having the strangest issue with an edit field within 
this app.  Specifically in the bible plans area when one is in the talk it over 
area I am finding that the edit field for entering your thoughts activates just 
fine with a double tap on an iPhone 12 mini but simply won’t activate no matter 
what I do on an iPhone 12 Pro Max.  Both phones are running version 14.3 of the 
operating system and the same version of the You Version Bible app.

I am wondering if those who are smarter than I am or who are perhaps code 
writers might know what might make an edit field not responsive on a specific 
model of device as opposed to being universally broken. I’m trying to gather as 
much information as I can so that when I report that it is still broken perhaps 
if I give them something meaningful with which to work they might be less 
likely to swat me aside like an annoying fly. 

In all seriousness if anyone can add to my understanding of this issue or offer 
a work-around it’d make me ever so happy.

Thanks in advance.

Robin





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Re: Astreos

[Mickey Quenzer]

OK you guys have peaked my curiosity.
Can you tell me a little bit more about what this is all about? New game on the 
horizon? Sounds cool! Let me know as I am always willing to beta test programs. 
Thanks much!


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Larry 
Wayland 
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 10:44:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Astreos

Yes, I would very much like to have the link.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Yuma Decaux
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 6:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Astreos

Hi Everyone,

AstreOS is going through an overhaul, as we are adding some AI features and 
sonification tools to analyse the objects in the skies.

the original project was simply to make things accessible in the augmented 
reality sense, but between adding the entire universe, uni, a ted talk, the 
Holman prize, covid and others, I don't have the deep pockets that some other 
companies have, so I am working on the new features with another developer who 
is supporting the code for the backend.

I will put the new version up tomorrow and link the public test flight through 
this thread if anyone is interested.

Have a great sunday

Yuma


> On 6 Dec 2020, at 3:50 am, Richard Turner  wrote:
>
> I just tried it again by pointing the camera at the sky and it is amazingly 
> nice with VoiceOver.
> Then, I discovered, it works indoors, even though the camera is only showing 
> stuff in the house, it is reporting the stars etc., you would be pointing at 
> if you were outside I guess.
> I saw until I was 12 and we spent lots and lots of time in the outdoors, 
> camping in the Sierra mountains, or on the beach around Big Sur,  and did 
> lots of star gazing at night, so I have always had a fascination with that 
> kind of information.
> Later,
>
>
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>
> *I’m not the card shark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 9:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Astreos
>
> I have no vision, but my wife is sighted.
> I took a quick browse through some information and it read quite well with 
> VoiceOver though in some of the planet descriptions it was reading the code 
> rather than some punctuation.  When I can have my wife looking at it, I'll 
> track down exactly what those are.
>
> I'm hoping it will help my wife find the spot in the sky where Jupiter and 
> Saturn are going to be aligned on December 21st.  The first time in 800 years.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
> Check out my web site at:
> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Pete Nalda
> Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 9:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Astreos
>
> Will be curious to see how you get along with SkyView lite. I’m a high 
> partial but noted everything was reading and tracking with voiceover. But if 
> you have any vision, the graphics on SkyView Lite are pretty nice.
>
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>> On Dec 5, 2020, at 7:10 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>>
>> 'I noticed that too. And I had received an email from Catherine from that 
>> project in August announcing that they were switching to the public 
>> Testflight link instead of the private test link, then it was removed.I just 
>> checked out Skyview Light and now wonder if you are right that its 
>> accessibility is vastly improved, so Astreos is maybe no more.
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to 

Re: iPad suddenly stopped working

[Mickey Quenzer]

First of all make sure your charger is plugged in to a wall outlet. make sure 
there isn’t a switch that turns The wall outlet off. then unplug your iPad and 
wait for about a minute. plug your iPad back in again and most likely that will 
turn The iPad on if it can be turned on. Wait for a couple of hours and see if 
voiceover comes on. This is my suggestion I hope it works.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon A 
Fogarty 
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 8:24:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: iPad suddenly stopped working

Do you use voiceover with the ipad and are you completely sure it has been 
charged up?

Can you see it if you connect it to a computer with the cable?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Saturday, 12 December 2020 6:26 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad suddenly stopped working

no I haven't used any wireless or bluetooth headphones.

On 11/12/2020 17:25, Diane Giannetti wrote:
> Janet, this may sound a little strange to you the question I’m going to ask 
> you. By any chance do you have a wireless headset that had been turned on and 
> it inadvertently never got turned off. I had have a set of AirPods that I 
> didn’t realize one of them got lost and was out of the case and could not 
> figure out why my iPad did not turn on and we worked on it and worked on it 
> and worked on it. Finally my brother found an AirPod on the floor underneath 
> the couch. So, that is why I’m asking you that question.
>
> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>
>> On Dec 11, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys please can someone tell me what to do.  My iPad won't come on it 
>> has been charged and nothing happens when I press the on button.  hope 
>> someone can make a suggestion, Janet
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Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

[Mickey Quenzer]

How does this software handle columnar text? Also is family sharing support on 
this app?


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Cris Ali 

Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 10:32:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

Hi Shane,
How can I test the document scan? This feature is not available in the free 
version, only the instant read is available.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 7, 2020, at 10:39 AM, Shane Lowe  wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Thanks so much for the kind words; I'm so glad you're enjoying the
> app. As always, please let us know how we can improve it to make
> Supersense more useful.
> Harry, to solve your problem, you can double-tap the stop button, and
> it will switch to a start button. Double-tap that again, and you
> should be going on a clean slate. I'm also reporting this to our
> developers so we can get it sorted. You shouldn't have to use my
> solution for long!
>
>> On 12/7/20, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
>> Hello, Shane! I have a lifetime subscription and I look forward to
>> developments!
>> One thing I cannot work out: when in instant reader mode, your app reads out
>> te first document it sees but if i want it to start reading a subsequent
>> document, it refuses to budge and insists on talking about te first
>> document. How do I start a new instant scan? And are there some tutorials I
>> have not located?
>> Thanks
>> Harry
>>
 On 7 Dec 2020, at 14:55, Shane Lowe  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi there,
>>> My name is Shane, and I work for Supersense. Thanks so much to all of
>>> you who have been looking into the app!
>>> Yes, our goal is to support as many languages as possible, and while
>>> the processing isn't perfect for each one yet, the app currently has
>>> the capability of scanning any written language with better results
>>> than I have seen in any other app. For clarification, I am a totally
>>> blind iPhone user.
>>> We're also working on the app regularly. For many of us, Supersense is
>>> our full-time employment, and we are really dedicated to the project.
>>> We tend to put out updates once every two weeks, and for the next
>>> little bit we're battening down the hatches and focusing on
>>> solidifying the features we already have to make for the best user
>>> experience. Of course, any new features we develop are included in the
>>> lifetime cost of the app, so you won't have to pay for Supersense more
>>> than once.
>>> Please let me know if you have any other questions, and thanks again
>>> for your interest! :) You are also welcome to request a call from the
>>> app, where you can get free technical support and training.
>>>
>>> On 12/7/20, TaraPrakash  wrote:
> Sure.

>  Try this link
>
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/translate-photo-scan-camera/id896187714
>


 Sent from my iPhone

>> On Dec 6, 2020, at 11:24 PM, Fazil  wrote:
>
> Can you send the link again, please as I deleted the earlier link by
> mistake?
> Thanks!
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> TaraPrakash
> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2020 4:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?
>
> TranslatePhoto is an app you may like to try. .   The main purpose of
> this
> app is to scan and OCR from a language and translate it to another  but
> you can definitely read the source language Text without translating it
> to
> another.  The app does have a free version. And it does support Arabic
> and many other eastern languages
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 5, 2020, at 5:54 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks,
>> supersense is now on sale until the end of the year, is it worth
>> buying?
>> I think one time life subscription is 49 US dollars,. I know that
>> there
>> are much less expensive scanning and OCR apps, but unfortunately they
>> do
>> not do non-latin-based languages like Arabic or Hebrew. what do you
>> think?
>>
>> cheers,
>> cris
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: pillow speaker

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello:
I have the headphones that we’re mentioned above.
Here is the link
Sleep Headphones Sleeping... 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088LR8C8P?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share Here is the link.
They’re pretty good I would say that I don’t sleep all night with them I 
managed to take them off pretty much every night but they are the best 
headphones that I found so far for sleeping with them.
However the one thing I hate is that when the volume is loud you get a very 
loud annoying beep to let you know that it’s loud LOL


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel 
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 10:53:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: pillow speaker


The one I have does not have earbuds, it is a double-layer fleecy headband with 
very low-profile speakers inside by both ears and a small square control pod on 
the forehead with 3 buttons for Play/Pause and volume up/down as well as 
forward and rewind.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 7:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: pillow speaker



I saw one of those but when it mentioned ear buds I kept on going,.

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From: Sieghard Weitzel

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 9:01 AM

Subject: RE: pillow speaker



I once bought a pillow speaker and did not find it comfortable. I use one of 
these sleep phones headbands and really like it, it's about as good as it gets 
for wearing something in bed for listening.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 6:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: pillow speaker



I found one on Amazon. It is by Pyle. They claim that it is a surround sound 
bluetooth speaker for $33

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From: R Van Lant

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 8:55 AM

Subject: RE: pillow speaker



The closest I have seen was a soft headband you wear that has the earbuds 
tucked into them.  I’m trying to recall where I saw them – some blindness 
related podcast or article…





From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 3:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: pillow speaker



has anyone run across a bluetooth pilow speaker?

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Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

[Mickey Quenzer]

It has been my experience with the new features trying to help us with images 
that we now have to work on finding the images that make no sense and try to 
weed them out.
There should be some kind of process to look at all image descriptions in 
theapps and make the text descriptions correct.
Unfortunately this technology is new and is going to have weird  consequences.
Just be patient sorry about the chatter LOL!


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Kimber 
Gardner 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 1:48:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

It's extra chatter that I prefer not to hear especially since the info
is of absolutely no practical use.

Kim

On 11/19/20, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> Ok, so a lot of people are seeing / hearing this spoken
>
> But does it really matter that it’s being spoken or are we just looking for
> an issue to talk about?
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty
> hevener
> Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 3:00 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>
> I am having the same problem.  Only, sometimes mine will say sky, and
> tonight, it said water.  I went in to voice over and made change suggested
> earlier in thread.  It did not make a difference.  It seems like sky, water,
> or god knows what else will come along, just  pop up.  Have not been able to
> pinpoint any patterns yet.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Robin Frost
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>
>
> HI,
>
> I have to agree with Arnold because all I have to do is unlock my phone and
> I encounter it so it seems to have nothing to do with the method of
> navigation or touch.
>
> Robin
>
>
> On 11/18/2020 9:12 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
> It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch.
> Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I
> encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really
> makes a difference.
>
> Arnold Schmidt
>
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20
>
> On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain
>  wrote:
> 
> For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described
> when exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a
> work around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the
> issue.
>
> --
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> Chaltain at Gmail
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>  On Behalf Of
> Robin Frost
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>
>
> Hi Deb and all,
>
> I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have
> been extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling
> works best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them
> aware of this people can also email them at:
>
> accessibil...@apple.com
>
> as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option.
>
> I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned
> on as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on
> an iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max  so at least by me it
> doesn't seem to be specific to one generation of phone.
>
> I do hope it gets fixed soon.
>
> Take good care.
>
> Robin
>
>
> On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:
> Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition
> mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2.
> Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll
> probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying.
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>  On Behalf Of
> Arnold Schmidt
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>
> I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it
> might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the
> screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was
> trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition
> gave a better description of the image, but turning it off,  as it were,
> didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it,
> being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will
> allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that 

Re: Face I.D

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello:
As far as using face ID, I find that holding the phone in front of me with the 
display facing my face as if I am reading a book seems to be the best way to 
get Face ID to work.It’s different when you’re laying down if you’re laying 
down then you have to put The phone above your forehead,and aimed towards the 
chin. Hope this helps!


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Les 
Kriegler 
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:23:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Face I.D

Hi Wayne,
I appreciate your response, as well as the many recommendations from others on 
this list. I think I finally figured it out! I was holding the phone the same 
way as I do when navigating the screen. My wife encouraged me to hold the phone 
vertically. I can best describe it as the phone being absolutely straight in my 
hand. Holding it in this manner and away from my face now results in Face I.D 
working every time. Now, I've had false positives before, but I really think 
I've cracked it! Again, I really appreciate everybody's suggestions. Simon, you 
mentioned an attention setting which I will look at. As of now, the difference 
is night and day!
Best Regards,

Les

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 2:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face I.D

Mine works about 90% of the time. I hold my phone like I'm on a Facetime or 
other video call. I do have issues with turning my head the right way when 
approving app downloads or purchases. I usually will rotate my face around 
until I hear the ding to approve the purchase/download. Perhaps an SE phone 
would work better for you. It sounds like you're still in the first 30 day 
period.

Best,
Wayne Merritt

On 11/11/20, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Mine works the majority of the time, but why I got to this level is
> that someone on this or another iPhone list said to hold the phone
> 12-14 inches away from the face.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Les Kriegler
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 4:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Face I.D
>
> Hi All,
>
> Okay, I have had my new iPhone for about 3 and a half weeks. More
> often than not, I cannot get Face I.D to work. Sometimes it works when
> I do not expect it to do so, other times, it’s just the opposite. I
> cannot consistently create situations where I can identify what my
> issue is with this feature. I have had a few discussions with Apple
> Accessibility. I have removed and reset up Face ID, I even removed my app 
> settings before setting up Face I.D.
> The problem persists. So my questions are these. For those of you
> using Face I.D, on a percentage basis, how often would you say that
> Face I.D works for you. Second question, if it works the majority of
> the time, what method did you use to bring this about? Thanks for the assist 
> on this one.
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> Les
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Re: Question About Reading Messages in Daily Digest Mode

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello Shirley:
Well it’s hard to say without being on that list and looking at the messages 
themselves how are you can get from one message to another.
Use your rotor and see if you can find messages if you messages is in the rotor 
flip down to go up between the messages.
Not sure if that’s gonna work because I don’t know how the digest mode formats 
the messages.
If there is an edit field you can do select all and copy and paste them to 
Microsoft word or notes so that you can browse them easily.
I hope this helps!


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Shirley 
Baker 
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2020 9:44:52 AM
To: Vip Home 
Subject: Question About Reading Messages in Daily Digest Mode

I get messages from a recipe list and have decided to get them in digest mode. 
How do I get say from say the second recipe in a group of seven or 8 recipes 
using my phone? I tried headings but that didn't seem to work. I don't want to 
get them individually because there are too many in one day.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Tribit MaxSound Plus Portable Bluetooth Speaker dimensions was RE: Speakers

[Mickey Quenzer]

I saw a newer model of that speaker on the Amazon page. It’s actually cheaper!
Does anybody know the differences in the models?


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Joshua 
Hendrickson 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 2:02:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Tribit MaxSound Plus Portable Bluetooth Speaker dimensions was RE: 
Speakers

I checked the amazon site and if you look at the page, the speaker
does have a 3.5 mm jack so you could use it with the second gen
stream.

On 10/26/20, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> Kitty,
>
>
>
> Thanks for confirming the presence of the 3.5mm jack. I'm perplexed why
> Amazon product descriptions do not include a bare minimum of words stating
> what jacks are included with their products and which USB charging
> connection they use. This sort of info seems critical to me and takes very
> few words.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of kitty hevener
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 11:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Tribit MaxSound Plus Portable Bluetooth Speaker dimensions was
> RE: Speakers
>
>
>
> The tribit sound max that I have does have the 3.5 aux jack.  The storm box
> does as well.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan
> Lemly
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 11:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Tribit MaxSound Plus Portable Bluetooth Speaker dimensions was
> RE: Speakers
>
>
>
> I don't have one of the Tribit MaxSound Plus Portable Bluetooth Speakers but
> I found no mention of it having a 3.5mm jack on the Amazon website. That
> doesn't mean it doesn't have such a jack because I find the worded product
> descriptions becoming less and less informative as pictures seem to be
> taking over this function. You might go to the Amazon website and review all
> the product questions and answers and reviews to see if they say anything
> about such a jack. Or you could try calling Amazon Accessibility and
> asking.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Johnna Simmons
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 10:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Tribit MaxSound Plus Portable Bluetooth Speaker dimensions was
> RE: Speakers
>
>
>
> H hi You said that this speaker could connect to the victor stream. I have a
> second generation victor stream. I did not know it had Bluetooth capability.
> So, does this mean that this speaker also can hook up to an 8.5 mm Jack.
> Please advise. John
>
> Johnna Simmons
>
>
>
> On Oct 25, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>
> 
>
> The dimensions of this speaker from the Amazon website are: 7.80 x 2.70 x
> 2.80 inches. I believe that is width by height by depth. The info came from
> this website:
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Tribit-MaxSound-Bluetooth-Exceptional-Waterproof/dp/B07MQWG3PR/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1
> 
> =tribit+bluetooth+speaker=1603655092=electronics=1-1-spons=1=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExMk1TNE9RRkxJRERKJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDc5ODY5MThHUUIyT1hEWEpUNSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNDA0MDUyMUw3UUgxOE9YU1BKMCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 2:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Speakers
>
>
>
> Andrew, I am not very good with dementions, however, the speaker can be used
> with the victor stream no problems.  I don't use mine with the victor
> stream, but this speaker and a lot of others I know about can be used with
> the victor stream.  I've got a lot of speakers I'm trying to sell that would
> be perfect with the victor stream.  I like to use a speaker with my stream
> and watch described movies it works very well.
>
> The tribet speaker is a great speaker and I'm sure you'd like it with your
> stream.
>
>
>
> On 10/25/20, Andrew J. LaPointe < 
> alapoint...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Is this the speaker that has a metal grill?  It is rubber?  Do you
>
>> know what the dimensions are?  One more question, can you use it with
>
>> the victor stream with a 3.5 plug?  Thanks so much.  I heard a sample
>
>> on youtube
>
>>
>
>> -Original Message-
>
>> From:   viphone@googlegroups.com <
>>  viphone@googlegroups.com> On 

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: when on a zoom call, can voiceover users use the chat within the zoom app?

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello:
The chat messages can be heard if you’ve got voiceover on. However, it’s very 
hard to listen to the chat and listen to the zoom call at the same time. I 
think that’s one of the main disadvantages of zoom that there is no way to 
change the output to something else like for instance a braille display.
The chat is very primitive and needs a lot of work.
Hope this helps I know it sounds disappointing!


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From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 11:52:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: when on a zoom call, can voiceover users use the 
chat within the zoom app?

hi Dave,
I know that when one is on a zoom call and the chat field is open, that you can 
mute the sounds coming from the chat field by turning off VoiceOver speech with 
a three finger double tap. Just remember to turn it back on when your zoom 
meeting is over.
Best, Keith

> On Oct 22, 2020, at 10:31 AM, 'Dave Sheridan' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
>
> I agree as one who is totally blind that this is impossible. If the chat 
> function is being used whilst voiceover is on hearing who is entering the 
> room or leaving it, hearing notes being passed between people within the room 
> all get in the way of me hearing the speaker and I've left meetings because 
> of this. So, in small meetings I've managed to get others to abandon the use 
> of the chat function because of the accessibility issue for me and 
> potentially others. I'd also be fascinated to learn how others are able to do 
> this. I can only presume those who can have very good hearing and can 
> distinguish between what's being said in the background as someone else is 
> speaking.
>
> Dave
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 22 Oct 2020, at 01:25, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> hi,
>> I am wondering if voiceover users can interact with the chat function when 
>> participating on a zoom call?
>> I am wondering because I have not yet been able to find a way to mute the 
>> voice is within the zoom call. I do not think I could possibly type and 
>> listen to chat with the presentation or discussion going.
>> If it is possible, can you please explain how this can be accomplished?
>> Thanks in advance, Keith
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Re: iCloud for Windows

[Mickey Quenzer]

Are they different programs? I don’t understand why you would download the 
Microsoft store app instead of the app that comes directly from Apple. can you 
give us information about why are you feel it’s better to download this app 
from the windows 10 App Store?


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 11:38:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: iCloud for Windows

Definitely download the Windows 10 app from the Microsoft Store, it is more 
accessible.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andrew 
Roberts
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 3:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iCloud for Windows

Hi all,

I would like to instal iCloud for Windows on my Windows 10 PC, even though I 
appreciate it isn't all that accessible.  I have 3 reasons for wanting to do 
this:-

First, I would like access to my iCloud inbox within Microsoft Outlook Second, 
I would like access to both my iCloud calendar and my iCloud contacts on my 
Windows PC And third, I would like access to my files on iCloud drive on my 
Windows PC.

Can anyone please advise me whether I am best to download the version of iCloud 
from the Apple website which is apparently for Windows 7 or Windows 8, or 
whether I should download the Windows 10 app from the Microsoft Store?  
Whichever I download, is anyone able to advise the best way of accessing the 
different options available in that programme?

Many thanks in advance for any help you can give.

Best wishes,

Andrew


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Re: Question about Lazarillo

[Mickey Quenzer]

Unless you’re logging in, nobody should be asking you for your password.
In other words you never give anybody your password in an email.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Rena 

Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 9:43:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Question about Lazarillo


Do you mean that I must enter the password of my email account? I understand 
they may want my email address to send me some info, but do they want my 
password? Do all gps apps do the same?



Rena





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 10:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about Lazarillo



Hi Rena,

I just installed it on a new device to duplicate your issues.

  1.  After entering your email, the spot on the screen where the return key 
would normally be, is now the word “Next” double tap that to go to the password 
screen.
  2.Enter your password and again double tap on the Next button in the 
bottom right.



You will be asked to allow it to use your location, etc.

When done, it will start talking a lot about everything around you.  At the top 
left of the screen is the “Stop Exploration” button.  I recommend stopping it 
so you can get familiar with the screen.



I have written the developer to ask that he change it so it begins with 
Exploration off.



HTH,





Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about Lazarillo



Hello,



I already found the app, but I’m confused and need some clarifications, please. 
When I open, it asks me to sign in, using email, or Face book, etc. I typed my 
email address, but I don’t find any button to sign in. First of all, do I have 
to sign in and provide email address in order to use the app? Otherwise, how 
can I skip over all that and start using the app?



Rena

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Adobe ExportPDF

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello List:
I need to take a PDF document and sign it and send it back to my rehab 
counselor. Does anybody have any suggestions as to what document program would 
allow me to add a signature to a PDF file? I have used the export PDF document 
program before but I don’t know if there might not be a cheaper way of doing 
things since it’s $23 a year.
So any help would be very much appreciated thank you so much.
Adobe ExportPDF (1 Year) $23.99



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Re: Orbit Writer Review

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Hello Richard:
What about if Key Echoes is set to anything other than characters?

On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 10:16 AM Richard Turner 
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Re: the echo show and show and tell

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello:
I don’t think you’re off topic in that you’re trying to work with devices that 
work with the iPhone, and Alexa. maybe there’s a better group to send your 
message to As far as I’m concerned until we figure that out I like your 
questions and keep it up. If you do figure out another place make sure we know 
where that is so we can help you there it could possibly be that you should go 
to a different group but will work that out. Thank you for your questions and I 
don’t have an answer otherwise I Would help you with.
Maybe we should create an echo devices group of some kind.



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Subject: the echo show and show and tell


If I’m off topic, I apologize. Please respond to me off list at



llump...@austin.rr.com<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>



I just got an echo show 8 and have been trying to use show and tell to identify 
household products. My initial trials have been somewhat disappointing so far. 
I may have the unit in a poor location so will move it tomorrow and try some 
more.



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Re: YouTube on an iPad.

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hi:
Try double tapping on the link and see what happens. We don’t know enough 
information about your problem. Where did the link come from? Is it a link 
design for the PC or is it a link design for smart phones?
Can you paste the link into this message?
Get back to us and give us more information and we may be able to give you 
better advice.
Thank you!



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Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 5:21:31 PM
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Hi all,
we have a link in an email to watch a church meeting. Do we just click on the 
link or  do we need an App?
Thanks as always for any advice.
Max.

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Re: Can’t see all my inboxes on the iPhone

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Hello Kim:

Can you tell me if that mailbox was is there at all when you’re in the message 
list or you just saying that it moved from the top to somewhere else?



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Hi,

I’m not sure what I did, but suddenly I can’t see one of my inboxes in the mail 
app. Let me explain.

You know how at the top of the mail app you have ‘all inboxes’ and the number 
of messages in all your inboxes for all your accounts? The under that you have 
“inbox A” and the number of messages, “inbox B” and the number of messages and 
“inbox C” and the number of messages. Well, in my case, inbox B has disappeared 
from the list. The account is still on the iPhone and can be accessed when all 
the folders are expanded. But I don’t know why that one inbox is no longer 
appearing at the top.

Can anyone help? I really appreciate it.

Thanks,
Kim

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Re: VoiceDream Where to Get Instructions?

[Mickey Quenzer]

I would be interested in this audio if you create it.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Richard 
Turner 
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 6:26:56 PM
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Subject: Re: VoiceDream Where to Get Instructions?

There is an old podcast on AppleVis, but enough has changed that I will find a 
walk-through that I had done when version 4 was in beta and see if I cannot 
update it, or at least do a basic audio overview.
The Voice Dream web site has lots of text information, but without the audio it 
would be hard to decide from the manual and the feature lists.
Stay tuned.




Richard
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-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Feb 5, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Michael Feir  wrote:


Hi Shirley. You can find all sorts of help and information at:
www.voicedream.com<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.voicedream.com=02%7C01%7C%7C097114660353482e782908d7aa9320c1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637165421190336576=5JxlP%2F0M5EQLkf%2BAeLAuj0OZ6L2AONK7h09SPTsa6Is%3D=0>
Once you have the app, the instructions will be found in the help button in the 
settings. The user manual and a quick start guide are available.


On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 5:19 PM Shirley Baker 
mailto:shirleyba...@comcast.net>> wrote:
I was thinking about purchasing VoiceDream reader but I want to get 
instructions on how to use it first. I went to 
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Keyless door locks that work with iPhone and android phones

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello:

The subject says it best, any ideas?
I am looking at two of them so far. 



August Smart Lock - Keyless Home Entry with Your Smartphone - Silver
And
 Kwikset 99160-021 SmartCode 916 Traditional Smart Touchscreen Deadbolt Door 
Lock...


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Re: A cool app for watching tv news everywhere

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 Hi Gordon:
Thanks for this app.
Looks very interesting. Trying to figure out what the buttons that are not
labeled do. Also do you know if there’s a way to send it back to default in
case you’ve done something you didn’t want to? Thanks for your help.

On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 5:17 PM Gordon  wrote:

> So we have tunein and iheart for radio stations, but now we have newson
> which is a directory for TV news that's available to watch on your
> phone. It will use your location to show you TV stations closest to you.
> If you keep going through the list it will move further away from where
> you are. There's also a tab at the bottom of the screen for all
> channels. There you can go by state and market. This will be a nice
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Re: Moving Apps in IOS 10 Question

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Ignore my last question, got the answers. Thanks exclamation

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> On Sep 24, 2016, at 12:00 PM, rajmund  wrote:
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> Hi, just for your information, the old method still works
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Re: Moving Apps in IOS 10 Question

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello lifters: I am puzzling over something.
How do you move an app from inside a folder I don't see a way to do it except 
to use the old way move the messages out of that folder then move it with the 
new method.
Any suggestions?

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> On Sep 24, 2016, at 6:26 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
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> 
> Is this wonderful, new way to move apps just for VoiceOver users, or can 
> sighted users use it, too? If so, briefly, how do they do it? I tell you, as 
> a VoiceOver user, it is worth upgrading just to get this feature. I could 
> move them the old way, but never quite ended up with everything where I 
> really wished it were. 
> 
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Re: The story continues... Long lost iPhone 6S has finally resurfaced after snow melt

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Hi:
Just curious did your phone have a case?
I'll be really interested to see if it works.
Good luck!

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> On Apr 19, 2016, at 7:38 PM, Joseph Hudson <jhud7...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hello, I'm glad to see that your old iPhone has finally resurfaced, however, 
> I will be interested to hear whether it actually still works once it is been 
> sitting in Rice for a week.
>> On Apr 16, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> just wanted to let everybody know that my brother finally found my iPhone 6S 
>> yesterday. I lost it during a walk on December 22. It was just off to the 
>> side a bit in a place where we spent probably a whole hour looking back 
>> then. My brother said now that the snow and ice is gone he saw it almost 
>> right away when he went back there.
>> From the outside the iPhone is in perfect condition, not a scratch on it. Of 
>> course after 4 months outside in the snow with temperatures as low as -30 
>> Celsius and going through the snow melt and a few rain showers since it is 
>> pretty unlikely that the phone is still working. I guess one good thing is 
>> that the battery should be deader than dead and there is definitely no 
>> electricity remaining. At this point I told my brother to just stick it in a 
>> ziplock bag filled with rice so that any moisture is absorbed. They live a 
>> long way from any town on a cattle ranch in northern British Columbia so it 
>> will not be until next Tuesday that somebody gets to a post office and at 
>> that point my Mom will send it back to me. By the time I receive it (most 
>> likely next Friday) it will have been in rice for a week and I guess I’ll 
>> just plug it in and see what happens. If it is completely dead I should 
>> still be able to get a new phone from Apple with my Apple Care Plus plan 
>> even if I have to pay whatever fee they now charge, I think it’s $130 or 
>> $160 or something like that here in Canada. Still worthwhile for getting 
>> another new iPhone 6S 64 Gb.
>>  
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>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
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Re: Send mail with voiceover bug still present

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Hello Richard:
Yes I can verify that the bug is still there and that it is random because I've 
sent many more messages that went through and then today the system just hung 
after I hit send and it just waited for 30 seconds or so and then finally you 
could hear this wish noise and voiceover started talking

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> On Mar 22, 2016, at 6:56 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
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> 
> In iOS 9.3, the VoiceOver hang after sending an email is still present.
> I have confirmed this by sending several messages on both my iPhone 5s and my 
> iPod Touch 6th generation.
> I am glad though that one other major VoiceOver bug has been fixed, that of 
> not being able to leave reviews in the app store. It is nice being able to 
> leave reviews again after so long.
> This message is going to both Apple Accessibility and the VIPhone users list.
> Richard
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> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
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Re: Trouble adding songs to a playlist in Apple Music

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Hi,
Did you look to see if the song that you added was in the playlist instead  of  
worrying about how many songs were in the playlist could be that the number was 
off for some odd reason!

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 On Aug 25, 2015, at 8:49 AM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello. I did this and then tried to add a song. I was told added or
 song added, but had the same result of no change in the number of
 songs. Any other ideas?
 
 Best,
 Wayne
 
 On 8/24/15, Terje Strømberg terjestrmb...@gmail.com wrote:
 It looks like you are doing it the right way. So the music app confirmes
 that the songs are added with something like «added to playlist»
 announcement. Just for trying something, hit power off and the menu button
 at the same time, hold it until the iPhone restarts. It is a soft reset of
 the iPhone. Nothing dangerous.
 
 Take care
 
 24. aug. 2015 kl. 18:34 skrev Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com:
 
 All,
 As the subject says I am having trouble adding songs to a playlist in
 Apple Music. The playlist is for songs on my phone. I have reported
 this to Apple Accessibility with no resolution. I created two
 playlists on my phone, 1 which has all of my downloaded music and one
 which is much smaller and has worship/praise songs. The worship
 playlist for a long time had 33 songs and I was not able to add any
 songs to it no matter how many times I tried. After iOS 8.4.1 was
 released, the worship playlist went up to around 70 songs but I
 haven't been able to add any more. I recently deleted a couple of
 songs from the list and tried to add one but no matter what I do
 nothing is added. All this time, I am told that the songs were added
 but then when I back out of the playlist and go back into it, I am
 still told that I have 70 songs. To add songs to my playlist, I am
 using both of the following methods: searching for the songs in my
 collection from the larger playlist, using the actions rodar item to
 find more, then selecting add to playlist and choosing the worship
 playlist. I am also hitting the edit button within the worship
 playlist and choosing the songs from there, and then swiping up/down
 in the actions rodar till I hear add songs to playlist and double
 tapping that.
 
 I am totally confused and frustrated as to why this is not working.
 Sometimes I have tried to add between 10 and 15 songs to the worship
 list, and even though I am told they were added, the total number
 still says 70. Anyone have any ideas? For perspective, my larger
 playlist with all of my music has around 1700 songs, so it can't be
 the number of songs in the smaller playlist. Using iOS 8.4.1 on an
 iPhone 6.
 
 Many thanks in advance,
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Re: Dice World!

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hi:
Make sure you're picking a game from the first list of games. The next list of 
games is for games that you have played in.
If you click on one of those games it will look like that so maybe that's 
what's going on just make sure that you pick the first list of games

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 On Aug 4, 2015, at 7:43 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 I did this twice now, and it doesn't seem to have made a difference. The 
 strange thing is I've just heard over the phone that Hannah can select and 
 deselect numbers, but no way can she roll. She is not getting any possible 
 moves announcements either whereas I am. We're trying Yatze excuse spelling 
 now to see if it's a bug with the app itself or just Farkle. It works however 
 if we play against other people not necessarily on Facebook.
 On 4 Aug 2015, at 15:40, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It may be as simple as removing the game and reinstalling it.
 
 
 On Aug 4, 2015, at 12:25 AM, Chris challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all Hannah and I  need a bit of help with Dice World! We are playing 
 Farkle against each other. The problem is when it's my turn I can't do 
 anything as all the numbers and the roll button are dimmed. The bank button 
 isn't, but double tapping on that doesn't do anything either. I tried 
 creating a new game with the same result. Please can you come up with 
 anything? This would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
 
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Re: Possible hidden bug in iOS 8.1.1, can you duplicate please? Thanks!

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello:
I had no problems here using an iPad air with iOS 8.1.1!

Sent from my iPad

 On Nov 22, 2014, at 12:25 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all
 Sorry for the long subject, friend and list member Hannah and myself may have 
 discovered a hidden bug under iOS 8.1.1 which we would like you to try and 
 duplicate please. Thanks! Step by step instructions below.
 1. Open the Phone or Contacts app.
 2. Double tap on a contact.
 3. Double tap on share contact button.
 4. Double tap on message button.
 5. Does your device lock up? Asking as at our end it does until we press the 
 home button.
 But the strange thing is I was able to share a contact about a week ago when 
 I was running a beta of iOS 8.1.1 so for now it's intermittent at my end, 
 however list member can reproduce this at all times.
 If you can duplicate this, please try it with VoiceOver off to see if this is 
 specifically a VoiceOver bug, then report to Apple Accessibility with your 
 findings.
 Thank you very much, any contributions greatly appreciated.
 
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Re: iOS 8.0.1 is out

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Hello allI found the following on Facebook.
Basically don't update to the latest iOS 8.1. Here's the link!
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10204496318545736id=1623042232

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 On Sep 24, 2014, at 2:31 PM, Yolanda ylt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It has been pulled now due to fp problems.
 
 On 9/24/2014 3:27 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
 Hi Neal, this update was being tested internally even before 8.0 was put in 
 the hands of the public. It also went out to carriers. But developers didn't 
 get it, which is standard practice. The next release developers are likely 
 to test will be 8.1, rather than an update to 8.0.
 Today's developments have ended what patience I had left with Apple. The 
 good thing about this mess is that I don't think there is now any question 
 about whether Apple's commitment to accessibility is waining. Clearly it's 
 as strong as ever. What we're dealing with instead is a crisis in Apple's 
 quality assurance that affects more than just blind people. Heads need to 
 roll. Apple has a very solid reputation, but iOS 8 is starting to turn into 
 a debacle.
 I am grateful, and thankful, for my Apple products, but I also paid decent 
 money for them as did all the professionals who have lost money today 
 because they updated in good faith and got no cell service at the end of the 
 process. We're entitled to expect the devices to work as advertised, that's 
 just a matter of consumer law and good faith.
 Apple is one of the world's wealthiest companies, with sufficient money to 
 throw at improving their testing process. It needs to be done, and we do 
 them no favours by giving them a free pass on what is a series of serious 
 errors. People in all kinds of professions rely on these devices. If the 
 narrative develops that the devices can't be relied on anymore, Apple are 
 sunk.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org
 
 On 25/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:
 
 Hi, I applaud Apple’s quick update release. What is bothersome is that they 
 put out an update not knowing about the issue that caused them to pull it. 
 I bring this up only to ask a question. For those who are on the beta team, 
 do you get to see these updates first, or is the testing of these done in 
 house. This also raises the question of updates released that may, in fact, 
 break things that already work. I guess we will have to wait and see, but I 
 am curious about who tests the updates they release.
  
 Neal
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Alex Hall
 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 1:21 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iOS 8.0.1 is out
  
 FYI, Apple has just pulled the update. You can no longer get it; I imagine 
 it will be re-released soon with a fix for the problems on the iPhone6.
 On Sep 24, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Trea Abma trea.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 I updated and didn’t have this problems. I called voicemail and was able to 
 delete messages without the dial tone bug, so maybe this is solved.
  
 From: Rich Ring
 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:00 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Cc: Rich Ring
 Subject: Re: iOS 8.0.1 is out
  
 However, I’ve heard that some users are losing cell service and that the 
 update also breaks touch ID. I think I’ll wait!
 
 You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of 
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 Yes, It sure is!  I just saw the announcement in my iTunes. I'm downloading 
 it now, as I write this. I was trying to send a message to the list, but 
 you beat me to it. LOL!
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 Checking the changelong, there’s no specific mention of accessibility 
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MP3 file editors

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Hello listers:
I'd like to know if anybody has reviewed sound editing programs.
Also while recording like to have the program allow you to stop and start 
recording's at the current time point.
Has anybody used any such editors?



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Re: BARD app

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Hello Marianne:
I have a suggestion for you that might help as far as making it easier to set 
the timer.
You can say to Siri set timer for 25 minutes.
This will start the timer and then turn off the audio after 25 minutes has gone 
by.
Let me know what you think.

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 On Jul 18, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com 
 wrote:
 
 I am thinking about switching totally to the BARD app instead of using
 a DAISY reader.  The thing I love about my Stream is that I can reach
 over and tap the sleep alarm but in the app I have to go into the
 timer and set it to shut off.  Is there an easier way to do this?  I
 listen to books when I am going to sleep.
 
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question about the Denon AVR-E300 5.1 Channel receiver as it has a remote in the app store

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 Hello Listers:
 
 I am interested in the Denon AVR-E300 5.1 Channel 3D Pass Through and
 Networking Home Theater AV Receiver with AirPlay:from
 Amazon:Electronics. The price is $249.00 which sounds good.  I'd like
 to know if anyone has this receiver and if the remote from the App
 Store is usable with VoiceOver?
 The link to this receiver is:
 http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00B7X2OV2/ref=aw_d_pd_electronics
 
 Any help with this would be appreciated.
 
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Re: IClean

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I am concerned that the app iDisk has not been updated since 2012 this concerns 
me! 

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 On Jun 3, 2014, at 4:32 PM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It deletes unnecessary files from the IPhone. I think they may have
 changed the name to iDisk+ Their are a few more features but it does
 the same as before as well and better.
 
 On 6/3/14, Sharonda Greenlaw sbgreen...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't think it's back in the App Store. I get notifications all the
 time to clean up my phone. Also, I just searched for it in the store
 and could not see it.
 
 Sharonda
 
 On 6/3/14, janet wright jan...@wrighthere.net wrote:
 can yu tell me what this ap does please?
 
 
 
 *** God has a plan for me. I may not see it right away but I'm willing to
 wait on the blessing he has in store for me!
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 It looks like IClean is back in the store. I say that because I just
 received an update for it.
 
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Re: Celular Data and personal hotspot?

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Hello Connie
Just wanted to let you know that cellular data is what you use when you're not 
connected to Wi-Fi but you're browsing the Internet.  A hotspot uses the 
cellular data and you connect to hotspot with other devices like a laptop.
Hope this helps!


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 On May 31, 2014, at 1:03 PM, connie mohney conniemoh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Good afternoon all,what is the difference between celular data and personal 
 hotspot?  I know what celular data is and that it is more cost effective to 
 use yFy when you can.  I just don't know what celular hotspot is.  Is it 
 better to have personal hotspot on or off?  Thank you
 Connie.
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Re: An Interesting iPad App

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Thanks very much for posting about this app!
This will be good for my parsley sighted clients.


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 On Mar 18, 2014, at 1:39 AM, Angelvoice angelvoi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello, All!
 
 If any of you have an iPad, you might find this app particularly interesting. 
 They say on the page that an iPhone version will be coming out soon.
 
 The app is free at the moment if you want to check it out. Here's the link:
 
 http://appshopper.com/utilities/smartmagnifier
 
 All the best!
 
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Re: iPhone contacts with Outlook 2003

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Hello Tom:
You shouldn't have any trouble.  Outlook 2010 and syncing contacts worked fine 
when I sunk with my iphone. Have a good day



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 I went from an XP computer to a computer with Windows 7.  Are there any 
 conflicts with outlook if I merge my contacts from my iPhone?
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Typing Tutor that is VoiceOver friendly

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Hello Listers:

I am looking for a typing tutor which is VoiceOver friendly.

I've looked at some of them in the appstore,and haven't found one which works.
The problem with most of them is that there is no feedback as you are typing.

Any help with this would be appreciatted.

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Re: Typing Tutor that is VoiceOver friendly

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Hi John the problem is that the client has an iPad and iPhone doesn't  have a 
Mac

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 27, 2013, at 8:56 AM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Did you look at xType?  The last time I used it under Mountain Lion, it was 
 accessible.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
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 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 
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 I am looking for a typing tutor which is VoiceOver friendly.
 
 I've looked at some of them in the appstore,and haven't found one which 
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 The problem with most of them is that there is no feedback as you are typing.
 
 Any help with this would be appreciatted.
 
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RE: Interesting dellema with the bard ap.

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Sounds to me to be that the web site is not really up.  Isn't the site shut
down because of the government fiasco?

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Subject: Re: Interesting dellema with the bard ap.

I've done, says connection has timed out after a few minutes.
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Subject: RE: Interesting dellema with the bard ap.


I did this this morning and it took some time for the newly added books to
 show in my wish list. It took maybe 2 minutes? Try opening the app and 
 going
 to the wish list and waiting for a bit.



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 Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 12:32 PM
 To: viphone
 Subject: Interesting dellema with the bard ap.

 Hi all.
 So, I added some books to my wishlist like I always do from the
 website on my computer.  Before when I'd do this I'd go to the ap on
 my phone, into my wishlist and download them.  But, now, when I go
 into the ap, they're not there.  I know they've been added, but
 they're not there.  I've closed the ap using the ap switcher...
 reopened it... but still nothing.  Any suggestions?
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iOS7 and email not reading the information specified in the Preview setting for mail

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello all:

 

I am having a problem with both my iPad and iPhone with mail not reading the
lines of messages specified in the preview settings.  I had it set to 2
lines and when I wasn't able to have the messages read to me, I increased
this setting to 3 lines.

I have 3 email accounts configured and all of them are acting the same on
both my iPhone and iPad. 

 

Anyone have any ideas how to fix this problem?

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Re: iOS7 and email not reading the information specified in the Preview setting for mail

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello David:
Thank you very much for that suggestion and it worked I would've never thought 
of turning on hints I thought I had it on the first place so thank you very 
much have a good day

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 10, 2013, at 1:10 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You need to have hints turned on.
 
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 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 11 Oct 2013, at 8:53, Mickey Quenzer mickey.quen...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello all:
  
 I am having a problem with both my iPad and iPhone with mail not reading the 
 lines of messages specified in the preview settings.  I had it set to 2 
 lines and when I wasn’t able to have the messages read to me, I increased 
 this setting to 3 lines.
 I have 3 email accounts configured and all of them are acting the same on 
 both my iPhone and iPad.
  
 Anyone have any ideas how to fix this problem?
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Re: Calendars not syncing between ipad II and computer

[Mickey Quenzer]

I think what might be going on here is that the outlook sync to iCloud isn't 
working I have that problem haven't figured out a make that work either!

 On Oct 4, 2013, at 2:37 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Are you syncing your calendar appointments and contacts in Outlook with 
 iCloud? If so, sync your iPhone with iCloud and this will sync your 
 appointments and contacts with your phone. Otherwise, sync everything through 
 iTunes on your computer.
 
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 Hi.  I have posted this several times and not received an answer.  I am 
 trying to sync my calendar and contacts between an ipad II running ios 7.02 
 and a windows 7 64-bit computer running MS outlook 2010 home and business.  
 I have the latest ICloud control panel installed and running and 
 appointments going to the iCloud calendar.  My mail service is a pop-3 
 account.  I would really like to have my appointments and contacts to sync 
 and would really appreciate help  in resolving this problem.  Thanks.
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Using the Keyboard with iOS7

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello all:

Can you tell me how to close apps with iOS7?
Thanks for any help!

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Re: Using the Keyboard with iOS7

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Thanks Chris for clarifying my message!
Yes, I am talking about doing  the three finger (a.) Swipe up to close an app 
or (b.) swipe down to open the control center, with the keyboard. 


 On Sep 20, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I thought of posting this answer as well, but since a keyboard was referred 
 to in the subject line, I was assuming they were looking for instructions on 
 how to close an app using a bluetooth keyboard. I just mention this in case 
 someone who knows how to do this from a keyboard might post those 
 instructions.
 
 On 09/20/2013 11:49 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:
 Hi Mickey.
 
 Bring up the App Switcher in the usual way.  Now swipe right once and find a 
 program you wish to close,  Do a three finger swipe up and you will hear 
 that the app is closing.  Repeat this process for any other apps you wish to 
 close.
 
 Les
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Hello all:
 
 Can you tell me how to close apps with iOS7?
 Thanks for any help!
 
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Re: Measuring tape

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hey Tom
Just wanted to let you know that I have not tried the measuring tape 
applications but GPS doesn't have a very good accuracy so I'm not sure how well 
it would work so good question

Sent from my iPhone

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 Has anyone tried the apps for measuring tape? There's an app that uses GPS to 
 measure small distances. Don't think it probably works good. Wondered if any 
 of you have tried something like that
 
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