Re: Apple TV Remote question

[Ari Moisio]

Hello

It will take three hours to fully charge it.



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 'Karen Poulakos' via VIPhone kirjoitti

Subject: Apple TV Remote question
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2024 20:44:13
From: 'Karen Poulakos' via VIPhone 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Can someone please tell me how to check the battery status on my Apple TV
Remote?

We recently purchased a new remote, and it is currently pluged in to charge
it.  Just not sure how to determine when it is fully charged.

Thanks.

Karen P




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RE: Apple TV Remote

[Carolyn]

You go to Settings, Accessibility, Voiceover, and then Speech. HTH. 

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You can increase the speech in the settings, under accessibility, and then 
voice over.
Shirley

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Johnson
Sent: 14 March 2023 21:39
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple TV Remote

The other day it gave me a low battery signal and the speech slowed way down.  
So I put it on a charge, and it seems okay today but the speech is still slow.  
Is there a way to increase the speech speed?It also seems to be very sensitive 
and I am not sure I like that but I'm dealing with it.


Patti


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RE: Apple TV Remote

[manyofus1...@outlook.com]

You can increase the speech in the settings, under accessibility, and then 
voice over.
Shirley

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Patti 
Johnson
Sent: 14 March 2023 21:39
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple TV Remote

The other day it gave me a low battery signal and the speech slowed way down.  
So I put it on a charge, and it seems okay today but the speech is still slow.  
Is there a way to increase the speech speed?It also seems to be very sensitive 
and I am not sure I like that but I'm dealing with it.


Patti


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RE: apple tv question

[M. Taylor]

Hello Jed,

I was just wondering what your solution was to your dilemma.  Are you able to 
access the Apple TV app on your new Smart TV? Or are you continuing to use your 
physical Apple TV?  If you are using the Apple TV app on your Smart TV, which 
model television are you using?

Just curious.

I hope you are well and are enjoying your new television.

Mark

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From: jedbar...@gmail.com  On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2022 12:00 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: apple tv question

Hey guys,
Hope all is well.  Hoping some of you can help.  I have a super old apple tv.
Now, I ahve a new smart tv.  Do I need a physical apple tv any more, or is 
there just an app I would install?
I'm so far out of the loop when it comes to apple tv.  1 of the things I have 
watched a lot os pluto tv.  Would I need the pluto tv app, or would I just 
access it all through the apple tv app?  If someone can help, that would be 
awesome.

Cheers,

Jed

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RE: apple tv question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Jed, unless you list the exact model of smart TV you have nobody can tell you 
what you need. The fact is that most smart TV's have apps for the major 
streaming services preinstalled, e.g. Netflix, Disney Plus, Apple TV, Prime 
Video etc. Furthermore most smart TV's have their own app store where you can 
download additional apps if they are available for the platform your TV uses. 
The most common ones would be Roku, Web OS (that is LG) and Google TV (Sony and 
many others). Also most new smart TV's have some sort of screenreader built in, 
but how well it works you would have to try and I would venture a claim which 
is that most likely the Apple TV box with Voiceover probably is still the best 
experience for a blind person.
We have one of the higher-end LG OLED TV's, the C-series although ours is from 
2 years ago and there are new ones this year, but we also still have just 
bought a new Applt TV 4K, also the one which was released this year. Partly we 
also do this because it acts as a hub for Apple Home Kit and if you buy the 128 
Gb version which I believe is $149.99 in the US you get a device which also has 
an ethernet port and is capable of thread networking which may or may not 
become important in the years to come. This is a protocol used by the new 
"Matter" smart home standard and Apple, Google and I believe Amazon have all 
signed on and said they will support it. Basically if you have a thread network 
capable device such as an Apple TV or a router (many of the new routers are 
also thread network enabled) then connected home devices can talk directly to 
each other without having to go out over WiFi.
This is of course just a simple explanation, if you want to know more you can 
Google it as there are many articles available about Matter and thread 
networking.
Also, if you, for example, have a Sonos Arc which can play Dolby Atmos and you 
want to take advantage of Apple Music songs which are encoded for Dolby Atmos 
(special audio) you have to play them on your Apple TV which is connected to 
the Sonos Arc soundbar via the TV. You can play Apple Music directly from the 
Sonos app, but at least at this point you don't get special audio that way.

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Sent: Friday, December 2, 2022 12:00 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: apple tv question

Hey guys,
Hope all is well.  Hoping some of you can help.  I have a super old apple tv.
Now, I ahve a new smart tv.  Do I need a physical apple tv any more, or is 
there just an app I would install?
I'm so far out of the loop when it comes to apple tv.  1 of the things I have 
watched a lot os pluto tv.  Would I need the pluto tv app, or would I just 
access it all through the apple tv app?  If someone can help, that would be 
awesome.

Cheers,

Jed

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Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

[Feliciano Godoy]

I don’t know the technicalities, but based on my research, maybe the arc input 
on the television does the conversion where it strips the video from the TV. I 
just started learning on this from this thread and research.

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On Dec 2, 2022, at 3:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


If ARC only wants audio then why does the Sonos app keeps telling me I have to 
plug my Apple TV into an ARC port on my TV?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2022 11:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

Yes,
That’s why the apple
Tv doesn’t work. ARC only wants audio hence audio return channel. That’s why I 
think the converter I recommended will work.
Feliciano
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On Dec 2, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I wonder if the fact that both the TV video and audio is coming through the 
HDMI cable; if having the video signal being sent to the Sonos Beam is causing 
some kind of conflict so instead of just passing through the audio, nothing 
gets through?
This is a working theory.

Has anyone called Sonos or Apple to inquire about this?

HTH,



Richard, USA.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 9:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

That is the interesting part, you say the Beam has an ARC input and that is 
exactly what you are supposed to connect your Apple TV to on  your TV.
I just posted a message where I explained the result I had when I hooked up my 
older Apple TV to my Sonos Amp and it is specifically requesting for the Apple 
TV to be connected to the ARC port on the TV.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since beam has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it.
avedio links 4K@60Hz HDMI 2.0b Audio Extractor with 7.1CH Atoms, HDMI to HDMI + 
HDMI 7.1CH + Optical Toslink SPDIF + 3.5mm Audio, HDMI Audio Embedder Converter 
Adapter for PS5, Xbox, Fire Stick https://a.co/d/52Q5ULw Hi,
I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since Been has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it
Feliciano
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On Dec 1, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Feliciano,

That would work fine if you had a speaker which accepts either optical or 
analogue inputs, but Gary stated he has a Sonos Beam soundbar which has only a 
single input and it is also HDMI.
I didn't check, but maybe there is an audio extractor which accepts HDMI input 
and also has an HDMI output and that said HDMI output is maybe an older HDMI 
standard which the soundbar recognizes. I am actually surprised hooking the 
Apple TV 4K directly up to the Sonos Beam does not work.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results


Gary,

In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company Cablematters.

RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If ARC only wants audio then why does the Sonos app keeps telling me I have to 
plug my Apple TV into an ARC port on my TV?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2022 11:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

Yes,
That’s why the apple
Tv doesn’t work. ARC only wants audio hence audio return channel. That’s why I 
think the converter I recommended will work.
Feliciano
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do. -Steve Jobs


On Dec 2, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I wonder if the fact that both the TV video and audio is coming through the 
HDMI cable; if having the video signal being sent to the Sonos Beam is causing 
some kind of conflict so instead of just passing through the audio, nothing 
gets through?
This is a working theory.

Has anyone called Sonos or Apple to inquire about this?

HTH,



Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 9:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

That is the interesting part, you say the Beam has an ARC input and that is 
exactly what you are supposed to connect your Apple TV to on  your TV.
I just posted a message where I explained the result I had when I hooked up my 
older Apple TV to my Sonos Amp and it is specifically requesting for the Apple 
TV to be connected to the ARC port on the TV.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since beam has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it.
avedio links 4K@60Hz HDMI 2.0b Audio Extractor with 7.1CH Atoms, HDMI to HDMI + 
HDMI 7.1CH + Optical Toslink SPDIF + 3.5mm Audio, HDMI Audio Embedder Converter 
Adapter for PS5, Xbox, Fire Stick https://a.co/d/52Q5ULw Hi,
I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since Been has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it
Feliciano
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On Dec 1, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Feliciano,

That would work fine if you had a speaker which accepts either optical or 
analogue inputs, but Gary stated he has a Sonos Beam soundbar which has only a 
single input and it is also HDMI.
I didn't check, but maybe there is an audio extractor which accepts HDMI input 
and also has an HDMI output and that said HDMI output is maybe an older HDMI 
standard which the soundbar recognizes. I am actually surprised hooking the 
Apple TV 4K directly up to the Sonos Beam does not work.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results


Gary,

In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company Cablematters. 
This device will allow you to utilize your apple tv headless (without a tv)



I bought it on Amazon, it was listed as Cablematters 4k HDMI to audio extractor 
at the time. This particular unit has HDMI input where you would connect the 
Apple TV and has optical and 3.5MM  output which can be connected to TV/ 
headphones/ Speakers for audio only.



Amazon basics also has a version, you just have to make sure it has the outputs 
you need.

Feliciano



>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 

Re: apple tv question

[Richard Turner]

There should be no reason why the smart TV cannot download the Apple TV plus 
app.
Since we got our smart TV, the physical Apple TV has been mostly collecting 
dust; though my wife used it on occasion in her sowing room. Though now she has 
a Roku stick on that not quite as smart of a smart tv...




Richard, USA.
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> On Dec 2, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Paul Henrichsen  wrote:
> 
> Your new TV will probably have the ability to download an Apple TV app. If 
> that app is accessible and you can find your way around it, you won’t need to 
> buy a new Apple TV. The Apple serve. Hope this helps.
> 
> Paul Henrichsen
> p...@pfhj.org
> pfhj2...@gmail.com
> 
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2022, at 12:00 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey guys,
>> Hope all is well.  Hoping some of you can help.  I have a super old apple tv.
>> Now, I ahve a new smart tv.  Do I need a physical apple tv any more,
>> or is there just an app I would install?
>> I'm so far out of the loop when it comes to apple tv.  1 of the things
>> I have watched a lot os pluto tv.  Would I need the pluto tv app, or
>> would I just access it all through the apple tv app?  If someone can
>> help, that would be awesome.
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Re: apple tv question

[Paul Henrichsen]

Your new TV will probably have the ability to download an Apple TV app. If that 
app is accessible and you can find your way around it, you won’t need to buy a 
new Apple TV. The Apple serve. Hope this helps.

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> On Dec 2, 2022, at 12:00 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys,
> Hope all is well.  Hoping some of you can help.  I have a super old apple tv.
> Now, I ahve a new smart tv.  Do I need a physical apple tv any more,
> or is there just an app I would install?
> I'm so far out of the loop when it comes to apple tv.  1 of the things
> I have watched a lot os pluto tv.  Would I need the pluto tv app, or
> would I just access it all through the apple tv app?  If someone can
> help, that would be awesome.
> 
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> 
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Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

[Feliciano Godoy]

Yes,
That’s why the apple

Tv doesn’t work. ARC only wants audio hence audio return channel. That’s why I 
think the converter I recommended will work.
Feliciano
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On Dec 2, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:


I wonder if the fact that both the TV video and audio is coming through the 
HDMI cable; if having the video signal being sent to the Sonos Beam is causing 
some kind of conflict so instead of just passing through the audio, nothing 
gets through?
This is a working theory.

Has anyone called Sonos or Apple to inquire about this?

HTH,



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 9:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

That is the interesting part, you say the Beam has an ARC input and that is 
exactly what you are supposed to connect your Apple TV to on  your TV.
I just posted a message where I explained the result I had when I hooked up my 
older Apple TV to my Sonos Amp and it is specifically requesting for the Apple 
TV to be connected to the ARC port on the TV.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since beam has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it.
avedio links 4K@60Hz HDMI 2.0b Audio Extractor with 7.1CH Atoms, HDMI to HDMI + 
HDMI 7.1CH + Optical Toslink SPDIF + 3.5mm Audio, HDMI Audio Embedder Converter 
Adapter for PS5, Xbox, Fire Stick https://a.co/d/52Q5ULw Hi,
I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since Been has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it
Feliciano
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On Dec 1, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Feliciano,

That would work fine if you had a speaker which accepts either optical or 
analogue inputs, but Gary stated he has a Sonos Beam soundbar which has only a 
single input and it is also HDMI.
I didn't check, but maybe there is an audio extractor which accepts HDMI input 
and also has an HDMI output and that said HDMI output is maybe an older HDMI 
standard which the soundbar recognizes. I am actually surprised hooking the 
Apple TV 4K directly up to the Sonos Beam does not work.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results


Gary,

In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company Cablematters. 
This device will allow you to utilize your apple tv headless (without a tv)



I bought it on Amazon, it was listed as Cablematters 4k HDMI to audio extractor 
at the time. This particular unit has HDMI input where you would connect the 
Apple TV and has optical and 3.5MM  output which can be connected to TV/ 
headphones/ Speakers for audio only.



Amazon basics also has a version, you just have to make sure it has the outputs 
you need.

Feliciano



>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

>>

>> Hello all,

>>

>> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
>> what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version 
>> which arrived last week.

>>

>> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and 
>> the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% 
>> faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a 
>> sound only system.

>

RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

[Richard Turner]

I wonder if the fact that both the TV video and audio is coming through the 
HDMI cable; if having the video signal being sent to the Sonos Beam is causing 
some kind of conflict so instead of just passing through the audio, nothing 
gets through?

This is a working theory.

 

Has anyone called Sonos or Apple to inquire about this?

 

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 9:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

 

That is the interesting part, you say the Beam has an ARC input and that is 
exactly what you are supposed to connect your Apple TV to on  your TV.

I just posted a message where I explained the result I had when I hooked up my 
older Apple TV to my Sonos Amp and it is specifically requesting for the Apple 
TV to be connected to the ARC port on the TV. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

 

I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since beam has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it.

avedio links 4K@60Hz HDMI 2.0b Audio Extractor with 7.1CH Atoms, HDMI to HDMI + 
HDMI 7.1CH + Optical Toslink SPDIF + 3.5mm Audio, HDMI Audio Embedder Converter 
Adapter for PS5, Xbox, Fire Stick https://a.co/d/52Q5ULw Hi, 

I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since Been has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it

Feliciano 

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On Dec 1, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Hi Feliciano,

 

That would work fine if you had a speaker which accepts either optical or 
analogue inputs, but Gary stated he has a Sonos Beam soundbar which has only a 
single input and it is also HDMI.

I didn't check, but maybe there is an audio extractor which accepts HDMI input 
and also has an HDMI output and that said HDMI output is maybe an older HDMI 
standard which the soundbar recognizes. I am actually surprised hooking the 
Apple TV 4K directly up to the Sonos Beam does not work.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

 

Gary,

In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company Cablematters. 
This device will allow you to utilize your apple tv headless (without a tv) 

 

I bought it on Amazon, it was listed as Cablematters 4k HDMI to audio extractor 
at the time. This particular unit has HDMI input where you would connect the 
Apple TV and has optical and 3.5MM  output which can be connected to TV/ 
headphones/ Speakers for audio only.

 

Amazon basics also has a version, you just have to make sure it has the outputs 
you need.

Feliciano 

 

>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

>> 

>> Hello all,

>> 

>> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
>> what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version 
>> which arrived last week.

>> 

>> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and 
>> the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% 
>> faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a 
>> sound only system.

>> 

>> I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
>> Friday and will report back on what happens.

>> 

>> 

>> Gary

>> 

>> 

>> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

>>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
>>> only

RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That is the interesting part, you say the Beam has an ARC input and that is 
exactly what you are supposed to connect your Apple TV to on  your TV.
I just posted a message where I explained the result I had when I hooked up my 
older Apple TV to my Sonos Amp and it is specifically requesting for the Apple 
TV to be connected to the ARC port on the TV.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since beam has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it.
avedio links 4K@60Hz HDMI 2.0b Audio Extractor with 7.1CH Atoms, HDMI to HDMI + 
HDMI 7.1CH + Optical Toslink SPDIF + 3.5mm Audio, HDMI Audio Embedder Converter 
Adapter for PS5, Xbox, Fire Stick https://a.co/d/52Q5ULw Hi,
I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since Been has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it
Feliciano
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On Dec 1, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Feliciano,

That would work fine if you had a speaker which accepts either optical or 
analogue inputs, but Gary stated he has a Sonos Beam soundbar which has only a 
single input and it is also HDMI.
I didn't check, but maybe there is an audio extractor which accepts HDMI input 
and also has an HDMI output and that said HDMI output is maybe an older HDMI 
standard which the soundbar recognizes. I am actually surprised hooking the 
Apple TV 4K directly up to the Sonos Beam does not work.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results


Gary,

In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company Cablematters. 
This device will allow you to utilize your apple tv headless (without a tv)



I bought it on Amazon, it was listed as Cablematters 4k HDMI to audio extractor 
at the time. This particular unit has HDMI input where you would connect the 
Apple TV and has optical and 3.5MM  output which can be connected to TV/ 
headphones/ Speakers for audio only.



Amazon basics also has a version, you just have to make sure it has the outputs 
you need.

Feliciano



>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

>>

>> Hello all,

>>

>> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
>> what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version 
>> which arrived last week.

>>

>> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and 
>> the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% 
>> faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a 
>> sound only system.

>>

>> I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
>> Friday and will report back on what happens.

>>

>>

>> Gary

>>

>>

>> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

>>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
>>> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
>>> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
>>> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these 
>>> gadgets I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, 
>>> hook it up to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has 
>>> and see if it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund 
>>> or look into whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it 
>>> work.

>>>

>>> -Original Message-

>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf

>>> Of Matthew Bullis

>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM

>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<ma

RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hello Gary,



I received the new Apple TV 4K today and while I didn't try to connect it yet 
directly to my Arc, I did try to connect my old Apple TV HD (4th generation) to 
my Sonos Amp. Here is what I got when I opened the Sonos app, selected Bedroom 
(where my Sonos Amp is located) and then I selected "TV":



We detected an issue with your HDMI connection. We'll help you fix it.

Fix it button

Close button

So I double tapped on "Fix It" and the following screen came up:

Let's get your Sonos Amp connected to your TV

Continue button

I tapped on Continue and the next screen came up:

Turn on your TV, then plug the HDMI cable into the ARC port. Then I had the 
following 3 options:

Connected to ARC button

Can't find ARC button

Close button

So I tapped on "Connected to ARC" and after it said "connecting" for a few 
seconds, the next message came up:

HDMI ARC not detected. Make sure the HDMI cable is connected to the ARC port 
and your TV is on.

Try Again button

Close button

No ARC port? You need to use an optical audio adapter.



So apparently connecting an Apple TV directly to a Sonos device via HDMI simply 
won't work. One could argue that this is silly, but then again let's remember 
how extremely specialized this is to the visually impaired/blind customer base 
since I just can't see any sighted person at all wanting to do this. If they 
did and it actually worked they would have to use Voiceover in order to 
navigate their Apple TV and I really can't imagine a sighted person wanting to 
do this. In any case, all the music services are pretty much available directly 
through the Sonos app and when it comes to "listening" to TV audio I don't have 
to point out how pointless that would seem to sighted people.



If you did have or buy a Sonos Amp then you would have an optical audio input 
available and I assume if you had an "optical audio converter" as the Sonos app 
suggests, you would probably be successful in getting audio from the Apple TV 
into your Sonos system. I don't want it bad enough to go out there and buy an 
optical audio adapter to try it, but in any case, since the Sonos Beam only has 
an HDMI input that really wouldn't be an option.
I may at some point unplug the new Apple TV from my LG OLED TV and plug it 
directly into the Arc to see if I get the same message. But I am pretty sure I 
would and I don't have a lot of time until at least the beginning of the new 
year so it won't be any time soon. I guess if you really wanted to listen to 
Netflix, Disney, Prime Video or other TV channels on your Sonos Beam then you 
could always splay the content on your iPhone and then send it to the Beam via 
Airplay.





Best regards and good luck,

Sieghard



-Original Message-
From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results



Well I  picked up a  SONOS Beam 2  last week and connected it to my APPLE TV 4K 
latest version.



I  set up the Beam and plugged it into the EARC port on my LG TV and it worked 
ok. I switched everything off and re-plugged the Beam into  the HDMI port on 
the APPLE TV using the SONOS cable which they confirmed supported EARC etc.



The results - nothing! I  couldn't get a sound out of the APPLE TV, needless to 
say as soon as I  re-plugged it into the back of my LG  TV it came alive with 
Voiceover etc so the APPLE TV was working fine.



I  have been doing some GOOGling around and found an APPLE support article 
which seemed to suggest that you could plug the APPLE TV into a sound bar to 
get DOLBY Audio sound.



When I had the APPLE TV plugged into the LG I had a look around the settings 
under video/sound but couldn't find any reference to immersive audio or DOLBY 
Audio.  The article suggested that if this was the case your surround equipment 
settings needed checking.  Presumably in this case this means the BEAM.



Any suggestions?





Thanks





Gary



On 20/11/2022 22:19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

> Yes, it would work because that is what receivers are made for just as HDMI 
> inputs on TV's are made for this.

> Anyways, I have a feeling with the secondor third generation Apple TV 4K you 
> will be able to plug it straight into a Sonos Beam or Arc, but hopefully Gary 
> will report back once he has picked up his Beam and tried it.

>

>

> -Original Message-

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of

> Kelly Ford

> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 1:43 PM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

>

> Hi,

>

> For what it is worth, I do have my Apple TV

Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

['Gary Robinson' via VIPhone]

Hi Feliciano,

I  already know that the APPLE TV does not need to be connected to a  TV 
as such since it works perfectly well plugged into my Meridian HDMI 
switch which fronts my surround processor regardless of whether the TV 
is on or off. I  think it just needs to be able to "see" a  device 
capable of handling a video signal at the other end.


I've ordered one  of the HDMI audio extractors and will give it a try 
with my NAIM  MUSO which supports analogue and optical digital inputs.


Thanks for your efforts as you say APPLE don't necessarily know all the 
answers especially when it comes to connecting to third party equipment.


I'll let you know when I get the converter this weekend what happens.


Gary

  when 01/12/2022 19:53, Feliciano Godoy wrote:


Hi,
Just because Apple does not  have  a solution does not mean that there 
isn’t one. People have achieved many solutions with hex like 
converters. You can try the one that I mentioned in the email prior to 
this.


Feliciano
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On Dec 1, 2022, at 10:49 AM, Joney Owen  wrote:


Hi all:
I spoke with people at Apple Accessibility yesterday. She was 
extremely kind. We went through all of the information they have, and 
everything, absolutely everything, is based on having the TV in line. 
Some of them have a TV which can sleep and just streams through it 
and others set ups Have the TV on picture now. They have no settings 
that allow you to go without the TV. :-( That doesn’t mean I won’t 
keep looking, but so far, everything requires a TV. :-(


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 1, 2022, at 12:04 PM, Feliciano Godoy 
 wrote:


 I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not 
supported with Sonos beam directly since beam has arc input. Maybe 
this device will work. You can always try it, and if it doesn’t work 
out, return it.
avedio links 4K@60Hz HDMI 2.0b Audio Extractor with 7.1CH Atoms, 
HDMI to HDMI + HDMI 7.1CH + Optical Toslink SPDIF + 3.5mm Audio, 
HDMI Audio Embedder Converter Adapter for PS5, Xbox, Fire Stick 
https://a.co/d/52Q5ULw Hi,
I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not 
supported with Sonos beam directly since Been has arc input. Maybe 
this device will work. You can always try it, and if it doesn’t work 
out, return it


Feliciano
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On Dec 1, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:



Hi Feliciano,

That would work fine if you had a speaker which accepts either 
optical or analogue inputs, but Gary stated he has a Sonos Beam 
soundbar which has only a single input and it is also HDMI.


I didn't check, but maybe there is an audio extractor which accepts 
HDMI input and also has an HDMI output and that said HDMI output is 
maybe an older HDMI standard which the soundbar recognizes. I am 
actually surprised hooking the Apple TV 4K directly up to the Sonos 
Beam does not work.


*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On 
Behalf Of *Feliciano Godoy

*Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

Gary,

In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company 
Cablematters. This device will allow you to utilize your apple tv 
headless (without a tv)


I bought it on Amazon, it was listed as Cablematters 4k HDMI to 
audio extractor at the time. This particular unit has HDMI input 
where you would connect the Apple TV and has optical and 3.5MM 
output which can be connected to TV/ headphones/ Speakers for audio 
only.


Amazon basics also has a version, you just have to make sure it has 
the outputs you need.


Feliciano

>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


>> 


>> Hello all,

>> 

>> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with 
its some what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very 
latest 4K version which arrived last week.


>> 

>> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out 
remote and the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in 
this unit is some 30% faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided 
to see if I could create a sound only system.


>> 

>> I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals 
this Black Friday and will report back on what happens.


>> 

>> 


>> Gary

>> 

>> 


>> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

>>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar 
which have only HDMI inpu

Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi,
Just because Apple does not  have  a solution does not mean that there isn’t 
one. People have achieved many solutions with hex like converters. You can try 
the one that I mentioned in the email prior to this.

Feliciano
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On Dec 1, 2022, at 10:49 AM, Joney Owen  wrote:


Hi all:
I spoke with people at Apple Accessibility yesterday. She was extremely kind. 
We went through all of the information they have, and everything, absolutely 
everything, is based on having the TV in line. Some of them have a TV which can 
sleep and just streams through it and others set ups Have the TV on picture 
now. They have no settings that allow you to go without the TV. :-( That 
doesn’t mean I won’t keep looking, but so far, everything requires a TV. :-(

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 1, 2022, at 12:04 PM, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:

 I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since beam has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it.
avedio links 4K@60Hz HDMI 2.0b Audio Extractor with 7.1CH Atoms, HDMI to HDMI + 
HDMI 7.1CH + Optical Toslink SPDIF + 3.5mm Audio, HDMI Audio Embedder Converter 
Adapter for PS5, Xbox, Fire Stick https://a.co/d/52Q5ULw Hi,
I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since Been has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it

Feliciano
For tech tips and updates:
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do. -Steve Jobs

On Dec 1, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


Hi Feliciano,

That would work fine if you had a speaker which accepts either optical or 
analogue inputs, but Gary stated he has a Sonos Beam soundbar which has only a 
single input and it is also HDMI.
I didn't check, but maybe there is an audio extractor which accepts HDMI input 
and also has an HDMI output and that said HDMI output is maybe an older HDMI 
standard which the soundbar recognizes. I am actually surprised hooking the 
Apple TV 4K directly up to the Sonos Beam does not work.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results


Gary,

In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company Cablematters. 
This device will allow you to utilize your apple tv headless (without a tv)



I bought it on Amazon, it was listed as Cablematters 4k HDMI to audio extractor 
at the time. This particular unit has HDMI input where you would connect the 
Apple TV and has optical and 3.5MM  output which can be connected to TV/ 
headphones/ Speakers for audio only.



Amazon basics also has a version, you just have to make sure it has the outputs 
you need.

Feliciano



>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

>>

>> Hello all,

>>

>> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
>> what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version 
>> which arrived last week.

>>

>> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and 
>> the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% 
>> faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a 
>> sound only system.

>>

>> I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
>> Friday and will report back on what happens.

>>

>>

>> Gary

>>

>>

>> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

>>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
>>> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
>>> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
>>> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these 
>>> gadgets I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, 
>>> hook it up to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has 
>>> and see if it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund 
>>> or look into whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it 
>>> work.

>>>

>>> -Original Message-

>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com

Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

[Joney Owen]

Hi all:I spoke with people at Apple Accessibility yesterday. She was extremely kind. We went through all of the information they have, and everything, absolutely everything, is based on having the TV in line. Some of them have a TV which can sleep and just streams through it and others set ups Have the TV on picture now. They have no settings that allow you to go without the TV. :-( That doesn’t mean I won’t keep looking, but so far, everything requires a TV. :-(Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 1, 2022, at 12:04 PM, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:




I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with Sonos beam directly since beam has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it.
avedio links 4K@60Hz HDMI 2.0b Audio Extractor with 7.1CH Atoms, HDMI to HDMI + HDMI 7.1CH + Optical Toslink SPDIF + 3.5mm Audio, HDMI Audio Embedder Converter Adapter for PS5, Xbox, Fire Stick https://a.co/d/52Q5ULw Hi,
I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with Sonos beam directly since Been has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it

Feliciano
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On Dec 1, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:






 

Hi Feliciano,
 
That would work fine if you had a speaker which accepts either optical or analogue inputs, but Gary stated he has a Sonos Beam soundbar which has only a single input and it is also HDMI.
I didn't check, but maybe there is an audio extractor which accepts HDMI input and also has an HDMI output and that said HDMI output is maybe an older HDMI standard which the soundbar
 recognizes. I am actually surprised hooking the Apple TV 4K directly up to the Sonos Beam does not work.
 
 
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results


 
Gary,
In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company Cablematters. This device will allow you to utilize your apple tv headless (without a tv)

 
I bought it on Amazon, it was listed as Cablematters 4k HDMI to audio extractor at the time. This particular unit has HDMI input where you would connect the Apple TV and has optical and 3.5MM  output which can be connected
 to TV/ headphones/ Speakers for audio only.
 
Amazon basics also has a version, you just have to make sure it has the outputs you need.
Feliciano 
 
>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version which arrived last week.
>> 
>> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could
 create a sound only system.
>> 
>> I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black Friday and will report back on what happens.
>> 
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
>> 
>> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is
 possible, but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these gadgets I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, hook it up to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has and see if it works. If not
 he can either return the Apple TV for a refund or look into whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it work.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf

>>> Of Matthew Bullis
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM
>>> To: 
viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>>> 
>>> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You connect an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your audio out through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs
 or gaming consoles don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have them for some external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:
>>> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +... 

>>> 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=p

Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

[Feliciano Godoy]

I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since beam has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it.
avedio links 4K@60Hz HDMI 2.0b Audio Extractor with 7.1CH Atoms, HDMI to HDMI + 
HDMI 7.1CH + Optical Toslink SPDIF + 3.5mm Audio, HDMI Audio Embedder Converter 
Adapter for PS5, Xbox, Fire Stick https://a.co/d/52Q5ULw Hi,
I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since Been has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it

Feliciano
For tech tips and updates:
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do. -Steve Jobs

On Dec 1, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


Hi Feliciano,

That would work fine if you had a speaker which accepts either optical or 
analogue inputs, but Gary stated he has a Sonos Beam soundbar which has only a 
single input and it is also HDMI.
I didn't check, but maybe there is an audio extractor which accepts HDMI input 
and also has an HDMI output and that said HDMI output is maybe an older HDMI 
standard which the soundbar recognizes. I am actually surprised hooking the 
Apple TV 4K directly up to the Sonos Beam does not work.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results


Gary,

In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company Cablematters. 
This device will allow you to utilize your apple tv headless (without a tv)



I bought it on Amazon, it was listed as Cablematters 4k HDMI to audio extractor 
at the time. This particular unit has HDMI input where you would connect the 
Apple TV and has optical and 3.5MM  output which can be connected to TV/ 
headphones/ Speakers for audio only.



Amazon basics also has a version, you just have to make sure it has the outputs 
you need.

Feliciano



>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

>>

>> Hello all,

>>

>> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
>> what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version 
>> which arrived last week.

>>

>> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and 
>> the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% 
>> faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a 
>> sound only system.

>>

>> I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
>> Friday and will report back on what happens.

>>

>>

>> Gary

>>

>>

>> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

>>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
>>> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
>>> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
>>> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these 
>>> gadgets I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, 
>>> hook it up to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has 
>>> and see if it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund 
>>> or look into whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it 
>>> work.

>>>

>>> -Original Message-

>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf

>>> Of Matthew Bullis

>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM

>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

>>> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

>>>

>>> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You 
>>> connect an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your 
>>> audio out through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or 
>>> gaming consoles don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have 
>>> them for some external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:

>>> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +...

>>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

>>> Matthew

>>>

>>>

>>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen 
>>> mailto:talk2o...@gmail.com>> wrote:

&

RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Feliciano,

That would work fine if you had a speaker which accepts either optical or 
analogue inputs, but Gary stated he has a Sonos Beam soundbar which has only a 
single input and it is also HDMI.
I didn't check, but maybe there is an audio extractor which accepts HDMI input 
and also has an HDMI output and that said HDMI output is maybe an older HDMI 
standard which the soundbar recognizes. I am actually surprised hooking the 
Apple TV 4K directly up to the Sonos Beam does not work.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results


Gary,

In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company Cablematters. 
This device will allow you to utilize your apple tv headless (without a tv)



I bought it on Amazon, it was listed as Cablematters 4k HDMI to audio extractor 
at the time. This particular unit has HDMI input where you would connect the 
Apple TV and has optical and 3.5MM  output which can be connected to TV/ 
headphones/ Speakers for audio only.



Amazon basics also has a version, you just have to make sure it has the outputs 
you need.

Feliciano



>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

>>

>> Hello all,

>>

>> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
>> what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version 
>> which arrived last week.

>>

>> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and 
>> the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% 
>> faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a 
>> sound only system.

>>

>> I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
>> Friday and will report back on what happens.

>>

>>

>> Gary

>>

>>

>> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

>>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
>>> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
>>> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
>>> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these 
>>> gadgets I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, 
>>> hook it up to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has 
>>> and see if it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund 
>>> or look into whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it 
>>> work.

>>>

>>> -Original Message-

>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf

>>> Of Matthew Bullis

>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM

>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

>>> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

>>>

>>> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You 
>>> connect an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your 
>>> audio out through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or 
>>> gaming consoles don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have 
>>> them for some external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:

>>> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +...

>>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

>>> Matthew

>>>

>>>

>>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen 
>>> mailto:talk2o...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>>>

>>> I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. 
>>> We scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not 
>>> wanted. However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out 
>>> differently, please let me know.

>>>

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>

>>>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner 
>>>> mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930

>>>>

>>>> I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just 
>>>> trying it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.

>>>>

>>>> I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our 
>>>> Smart TV in our living room...

RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

[Feliciano Godoy]

Gary,

In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company Cablematters. 
This device will allow you to utilize your apple tv headless (without a tv)



I bought it on Amazon, it was listed as Cablematters 4k HDMI to audio extractor 
at the time. This particular unit has HDMI input where you would connect the 
Apple TV and has optical and 3.5MM  output which can be connected to TV/ 
headphones/ Speakers for audio only.



Amazon basics also has a version, you just have to make sure it has the outputs 
you need.

Feliciano



>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

>>

>> Hello all,

>>

>> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
>> what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version 
>> which arrived last week.

>>

>> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and 
>> the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% 
>> faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a 
>> sound only system.

>>

>> I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
>> Friday and will report back on what happens.

>>

>>

>> Gary

>>

>>

>> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

>>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
>>> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
>>> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
>>> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these 
>>> gadgets I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, 
>>> hook it up to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has 
>>> and see if it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund 
>>> or look into whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it 
>>> work.

>>>

>>> -Original Message-

>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf

>>> Of Matthew Bullis

>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM

>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

>>> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

>>>

>>> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You 
>>> connect an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your 
>>> audio out through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or 
>>> gaming consoles don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have 
>>> them for some external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:

>>> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +...

>>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

>>> Matthew

>>>

>>>

>>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen 
>>> mailto:talk2o...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>>>

>>> I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. 
>>> We scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not 
>>> wanted. However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out 
>>> differently, please let me know.

>>>

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>

>>>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner 
>>>> mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930

>>>>

>>>> I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just 
>>>> trying it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.

>>>>

>>>> I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our 
>>>> Smart TV in our living room...

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Richard, USA.

>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch

>>>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in

>>>> the Universe

>>>>

>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com

>>>>

>>>> -Original Message-

>>>> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>

>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:58 AM

>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

>>

RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Both Beam and Arc have only an HDMI input, the older Sonos Playbar and I 
believe the Playbase connected to the TV with an optical cable and I believe 
the small Sonos Ray soundbar also has an optical input.

I should get my new Apple TV 4K this week so I'll also play around with it 
hooking it up directly to our Arc, but in our case it doesn't really matter 
since I practically never watch or listen to the TV unless it's with my sighted 
wife and then of course the TV is on as well.

If a direct connection between the Apple TV and the Sonos Beam really doesn't 
work without a TV in between then the only option might be to have some sort of 
splitter which extracts the audio but then you still have to have something you 
can direct this audio stream to and unless you have another splitter on the 
Beam which allows you to hook up an optical cable from the first splitter then 
you may have to have a Sonos Port. The Port has rCA analogue inputs and outputs 
as well as a Coax digital input and output, but as long as you could get the 
audio into the Port, you could then group it with your Beam and play the audio 
from the Apple TV that way.

But it would involve a significant amount of gadgets and fiddling around and to 
me it would not be worth it.

Alternatively one could try to find out if a Sonos Amp which has an HDMI input 
could receive audio from an Apple TV if it were directly connected. Then Gary 
could put a Sonos Amp with either bookshelf speakers or in-wall or in-ceiling 
speakers into the bedroom.

I can also test this since we have a Sonos Amp and in-wall speakers in our 
bedroom so before I put my new Apple TV in its final resting place inside my 
entertainment cabinet, I could certainly hook it up to the Sonos Amp and see 
what happens. Fort hat matter, I could try this also with our older first 
generation Apple TV HD, I believe they called it the fourth generation Apple TV 
and it came out in 2015 after the Apple TV third Gen was discontinued. I 
thought we already had the first generation Apple TV 4K, but when I checked the 
model number which is A1625 and I looked it up I realized we bought it in 2015 
and it's just the apple TV HD.

I now ordered the latest Apple TV 4K with 128 Gb of RAM simply because the 
price difference to the 64 Gb is not a lot and only the 128 Gb has support for 
thread networking which is the new standard necessary for Matter support. For 
those who don't know what Matter is they can read the below article from 
9to5MAAC:



Apple drops smart-home feature from base Apple 
TV<https://9to5mac.com/2022/10/18/apple-tv-4k-thread-support/>



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results



When we first got our Apple TV 3rd generation, I had to get an optical audio 
converter to get the sound to go through our then stereo receiver and not the 
TV speaker only.  This was before we got Sonos products and a Smart TV and 
stopped using the physical Apple TV.



I wonder if you need something like that to direct the audio through the 
soundbar?



Though, I don't know what inputs the Beam2 has, if it is just the HDMI port, 
then that idea may not work.



Best of luck,







Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe



My web site: https://www.turner42.com



-Original Message-

From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>

Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 10:28 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results



Well I  picked up a  SONOS Beam 2  last week and connected it to my APPLE TV 4K 
latest version.



I  set up the Beam and plugged it into the EARC port on my LG TV and it worked 
ok. I switched everything off and re-plugged the Beam into  the HDMI port on 
the APPLE TV using the SONOS cable which they confirmed supported EARC etc.



The results - nothing! I  couldn't get a sound out of the APPLE TV, needless to 
say as soon as I  re-plugged it into the back of my LG  TV it came alive with 
Voiceover etc so the APPLE TV was working fine.



I  have been doing some GOOGling around and found an APPLE support article 
which seemed to suggest that you could plug the APPLE TV into a sound bar to 
get DOLBY Audio sound.



When I had the APPLE TV plugged into the LG I had a look around the settings 
under video/sound but couldn't find any reference to immersive audio or DOLBY 
Audio.  The article suggested that if this was the case your surround equipment 
settings needed checking.  Presumably in this case this means the BEAM.



An

RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

[Richard Turner]

When we first got our Apple TV 3rd generation, I had to get an optical audio 
converter to get the sound to go through our then stereo receiver and not the 
TV speaker only.  This was before we got Sonos products and a Smart TV and 
stopped using the physical Apple TV.

I wonder if you need something like that to direct the audio through the 
soundbar?

Though, I don't know what inputs the Beam2 has, if it is just the HDMI port, 
then that idea may not work.

Best of luck,



Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

Well I  picked up a  SONOS Beam 2  last week and connected it to my APPLE TV 4K 
latest version.

I  set up the Beam and plugged it into the EARC port on my LG TV and it worked 
ok. I switched everything off and re-plugged the Beam into  the HDMI port on 
the APPLE TV using the SONOS cable which they confirmed supported EARC etc.

The results - nothing! I  couldn't get a sound out of the APPLE TV, needless to 
say as soon as I  re-plugged it into the back of my LG  TV it came alive with 
Voiceover etc so the APPLE TV was working fine.

I  have been doing some GOOGling around and found an APPLE support article 
which seemed to suggest that you could plug the APPLE TV into a sound bar to 
get DOLBY Audio sound.

When I had the APPLE TV plugged into the LG I had a look around the settings 
under video/sound but couldn't find any reference to immersive audio or DOLBY 
Audio.  The article suggested that if this was the case your surround equipment 
settings needed checking.  Presumably in this case this means the BEAM.

Any suggestions?


Thanks


Gary

On 20/11/2022 22:19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Yes, it would work because that is what receivers are made for just as HDMI 
> inputs on TV's are made for this.
> Anyways, I have a feeling with the secondor third generation Apple TV 4K you 
> will be able to plug it straight into a Sonos Beam or Arc, but hopefully Gary 
> will report back once he has picked up his Beam and tried it.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Ford
> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 1:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>
> Hi,
>
> For what it is worth, I do have my Apple TV plugged into the HDMI port of my 
> receiver.  This is a Marantz receiver.  This works fine with the Apple device 
> and does not require my TV to be connected or on for the Apple device to 
> work.  The Apple device is the newest 4K unit.
>
>
>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
>> what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version 
>> which arrived last week.
>>
>> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and 
>> the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% 
>> faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a 
>> sound only system.
>>
>> I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
>> Friday and will report back on what happens.
>>
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
>>> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
>>> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
>>> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these 
>>> gadgets I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, 
>>> hook it up to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has 
>>> and see if it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund 
>>> or look into whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it 
>>> work.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Matthew Bullis
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>>>
>>> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You 
>>> connect an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your 
>>&g

Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

['Gary Robinson' via VIPhone]

Well I  picked up a  SONOS Beam 2  last week and connected it to my 
APPLE TV 4K latest version.


I  set up the Beam and plugged it into the EARC port on my LG TV and it 
worked ok. I switched everything off and re-plugged the Beam into  the 
HDMI port on the APPLE TV using the SONOS cable which they confirmed 
supported EARC etc.


The results - nothing! I  couldn't get a sound out of the APPLE TV, 
needless to say as soon as I  re-plugged it into the back of my LG  TV 
it came alive with Voiceover etc so the APPLE TV was working fine.


I  have been doing some GOOGling around and found an APPLE support 
article which seemed to suggest that you could plug the APPLE TV into a  
sound bar to get DOLBY Audio sound.


When I had the APPLE TV plugged into the LG I had a look around the 
settings under video/sound but couldn't find any reference to immersive 
audio or DOLBY Audio.  The article suggested that if this was the case 
your surround equipment settings needed checking.  Presumably in this 
case this means the BEAM.


Any suggestions?


Thanks


Gary

On 20/11/2022 22:19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Yes, it would work because that is what receivers are made for just as HDMI 
inputs on TV's are made for this.
Anyways, I have a feeling with the secondor third generation Apple TV 4K you 
will be able to plug it straight into a Sonos Beam or Arc, but hopefully Gary 
will report back once he has picked up his Beam and tried it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Ford
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 1:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Hi,

For what it is worth, I do have my Apple TV plugged into the HDMI port of my 
receiver.  This is a Marantz receiver.  This works fine with the Apple device 
and does not require my TV to be connected or on for the Apple device to work.  
The Apple device is the newest 4K unit.



On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

Hello all,

Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version which 
arrived last week.

I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and the 
speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% faster 
than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a sound only 
system.

I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
Friday and will report back on what happens.


Gary


On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have only 
HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the audio 
coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, but 
whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these gadgets I 
would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, hook it up to 
my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has and see if it 
works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund or look into 
whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it work.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Matthew 
Bullis
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You connect 
an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your audio out 
through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or gaming consoles 
don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have them for some external 
speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:
ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +... 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Matthew


On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:

I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. We 
scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not wanted. 
However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out differently, 
please let me know.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930

I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just trying 
it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.

I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our Smart 
TV in our living room...



Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Hi all,

Does anyone know

Re: apple TV question

[Paul Henrichsen]

If your TV has an Apple TV app that you can install, you can use that without 
having to purchase an Apple TV, as long as the app is accessible.

Paul Henrichsen
pfhj2...@gmail.com
p...@pfhj.org

From: jedbar...@gmail.com  on behalf of Jed Barton 

Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 7:30:08 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: apple TV question

Hey guys,

Hope everyone is doing well. Question on an apple tv.  Do you need a
physical apple tv, or can you download the app on to a smart tv?  I
had an old apple tv, hooked up to 1 of my tvs.  Can anyone help?

Cheers,

Jed

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RE: apple TV question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Most new smart TV's have the Apple TV app, however while many smart TV's now 
have some sort of screenreader and accessibility, I still question if they can 
match an actual Apple TV with respect to accessibility.
As for downloading an Apple TV app I doubt that is possible, either your smart 
TV has Apple TV or it does not.
Keep in mind that The Apple TV 4K as in the physical device is m ore than the 
Apple TV service. You can access other things like Netflix, Disney Plus, Apple 
Music and so on via your Apple TV and you can also use the Netflix app, Disney 
Plus app and so on which are built in to your smart TV. For that matter you 
could get a Roku TV stick for $20 or $30 and you also get access to all of 
that. There is a lot of duplication so you just have to decide what you think 
you need in order to accomplish what you want to accomplish. The Apple TV 4K 
which was just recently released is not all that expensive, but if all you do 
is watch Netflix and Disney Plus and you find you can do this accessibly 
through your TV then you probably don't need it.

-Original Message-
From: jedbar...@gmail.com  On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 7:30 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: apple TV question

Hey guys,

Hope everyone is doing well. Question on an apple tv.  Do you need a physical 
apple tv, or can you download the app on to a smart tv?  I had an old apple tv, 
hooked up to 1 of my tvs.  Can anyone help?

Cheers,

Jed

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RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

[chrisjudge1967]

Oh I won't be replacing any of it for a while.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: November 22, 2022 1:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

I would wait to replace your Playbase until next year as there are rumours 
Sonos may release a new flag ship soundbar.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2022 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

I want to buy more Sonos gear but I can't justify it. Currently I have 2 play 
fives with a sub in the man cave, a sub, play base and two Sonos ones in the 
livingroom for our surround sound, a play 3 in the kitchen, another one of 
those bad boys in the basement, a Sonos connect in the master bedroom connected 
to my bose wave system, and an Sonos 1 in my girlfriends computer room, so I 
really don't have any room for more Sonos stuff. I'd love to by an arc but will 
need to sell my play base to make room for it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: November 20, 2022 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Yes, they do have good deals for those who are not yet invested in Sonos. I was 
hoping to get the 20% off the new Sub Mini, but no such luck, the only deal I 
saw here in Canada is a little over 10% off and then you have to buy it with a 
set of Sonos One or Sonos SL speakers and I don't need them. Oh well, I think I 
may have some older Sonos One first generation speakers and I could use the 15% 
upgrade credit Sonos offers to buy a Sub Mini and then sell them since I 
currently have more Sonos speakers than I really need or use.

-Original Message-
From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 1:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Hello all,

Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version which 
arrived last week.

I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and the 
speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% faster 
than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a sound only 
system.

I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
Friday and will report back on what happens.


Gary


On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these gadgets 
> I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, hook it up 
> to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has and see if 
> it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund or look into 
> whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it work.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Matthew Bullis
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>
> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You connect 
> an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your audio out 
> through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or gaming consoles 
> don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have them for some 
> external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:
> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +... 
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
> Matthew
>
>
> On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:
>
> I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. 
> We scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not 
> wanted. However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out 
> differently, please let me know.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930
>>
>> I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just 
>> trying it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.
>>
>> I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our 
>> Smart TV in our living room...
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 

RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I would wait to replace your Playbase until next year as there are rumours 
Sonos may release a new flag ship soundbar.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2022 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

I want to buy more Sonos gear but I can't justify it. Currently I have 2 play 
fives with a sub in the man cave, a sub, play base and two Sonos ones in the 
livingroom for our surround sound, a play 3 in the kitchen, another one of 
those bad boys in the basement, a Sonos connect in the master bedroom connected 
to my bose wave system, and an Sonos 1 in my girlfriends computer room, so I 
really don't have any room for more Sonos stuff. I'd love to by an arc but will 
need to sell my play base to make room for it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: November 20, 2022 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Yes, they do have good deals for those who are not yet invested in Sonos. I was 
hoping to get the 20% off the new Sub Mini, but no such luck, the only deal I 
saw here in Canada is a little over 10% off and then you have to buy it with a 
set of Sonos One or Sonos SL speakers and I don't need them. Oh well, I think I 
may have some older Sonos One first generation speakers and I could use the 15% 
upgrade credit Sonos offers to buy a Sub Mini and then sell them since I 
currently have more Sonos speakers than I really need or use.

-Original Message-
From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 1:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Hello all,

Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version which 
arrived last week.

I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and the 
speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% faster 
than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a sound only 
system.

I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
Friday and will report back on what happens.


Gary


On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these gadgets 
> I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, hook it up 
> to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has and see if 
> it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund or look into 
> whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it work.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Matthew Bullis
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>
> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You connect 
> an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your audio out 
> through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or gaming consoles 
> don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have them for some 
> external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:
> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +... 
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
> Matthew
>
>
> On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:
>
> I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. 
> We scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not 
> wanted. However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out 
> differently, please let me know.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930
>>
>> I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just 
>> trying it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.
>>
>> I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our 
>> Smart TV in our living room...
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: 

RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

[chrisjudge1967]

I want to buy more Sonos gear but I can't justify it. Currently I have 2 play 
fives with a sub in the man cave, a sub, play base and two Sonos ones in the 
livingroom for our surround sound, a play 3 in the kitchen, another one of 
those bad boys in the basement, a Sonos connect in the master bedroom connected 
to my bose wave system, and an Sonos 1 in my girlfriends computer room, so I 
really don't have any room for more Sonos stuff. I'd love to by an arc but will 
need to sell my play base to make room for it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: November 20, 2022 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Yes, they do have good deals for those who are not yet invested in Sonos. I was 
hoping to get the 20% off the new Sub Mini, but no such luck, the only deal I 
saw here in Canada is a little over 10% off and then you have to buy it with a 
set of Sonos One or Sonos SL speakers and I don't need them. Oh well, I think I 
may have some older Sonos One first generation speakers and I could use the 15% 
upgrade credit Sonos offers to buy a Sub Mini and then sell them since I 
currently have more Sonos speakers than I really need or use.

-Original Message-
From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 1:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Hello all,

Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version which 
arrived last week.

I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and the 
speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% faster 
than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a sound only 
system.

I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
Friday and will report back on what happens.


Gary


On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these gadgets 
> I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, hook it up 
> to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has and see if 
> it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund or look into 
> whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it work.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Matthew Bullis
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>
> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You connect 
> an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your audio out 
> through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or gaming consoles 
> don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have them for some 
> external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:
> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +... 
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
> Matthew
>
>
> On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:
>
> I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. 
> We scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not 
> wanted. However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out 
> differently, please let me know.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930
>>
>> I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just 
>> trying it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.
>>
>> I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our 
>> Smart TV in our living room...
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:58 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Does anyone know if the Apple TV will work if it is plugged directly into a  
>> soundbar such as one of the Sonos devices rather than into a  tv and thence 
&

RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You should be able to get an HDMI to Optical adapter. Which soundbar do you 
have, is it a Sonos? If so it must be the older Playbar or the Playbase, those 
were connected to the TV with an optical connection.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joney 
Owen
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 1:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Darn. That means that since I only have the optical cable connections on my 
sound bar, it won’t work. :-(

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 20, 2022, at 4:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these gadgets 
> I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, hook it up 
> to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has and see if 
> it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund or look into 
> whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it work.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Matthew Bullis
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?
> 
> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You connect 
> an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your audio out 
> through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or gaming consoles 
> don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have them for some 
> external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:
> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +... 
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
> Matthew
> 
> 
> On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:
> 
> I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. 
> We scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not 
> wanted. However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out 
> differently, please let me know.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930
>> 
>> I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just 
>> trying it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.
>> 
>> I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our 
>> Smart TV in our living room...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:58 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Does anyone know if the Apple TV will work if it is plugged directly into a  
>> soundbar such as one of the Sonos devices rather than into a  tv and thence 
>> to a soundbar?
>> 
>> I am trying to create a TV sound receiver for a small bedroom and don't want 
>> a  full sized TV screen as I can't see it anyway.
>> 
>> I am suspicious that the Apple TV box will complain because it can't see a 
>> display device..
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
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RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, it would work because that is what receivers are made for just as HDMI 
inputs on TV's are made for this. 
Anyways, I have a feeling with the secondor third generation Apple TV 4K you 
will be able to plug it straight into a Sonos Beam or Arc, but hopefully Gary 
will report back once he has picked up his Beam and tried it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Ford
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 1:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Hi,

For what it is worth, I do have my Apple TV plugged into the HDMI port of my 
receiver.  This is a Marantz receiver.  This works fine with the Apple device 
and does not require my TV to be connected or on for the Apple device to work.  
The Apple device is the newest 4K unit.


> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
> what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version which 
> arrived last week.
> 
> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and 
> the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% 
> faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a 
> sound only system.
> 
> I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
> Friday and will report back on what happens.
> 
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
>> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
>> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
>> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these gadgets 
>> I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, hook it 
>> up to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has and see 
>> if it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund or look 
>> into whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it work.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Matthew Bullis
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>> 
>> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You 
>> connect an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your 
>> audio out through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or 
>> gaming consoles don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have 
>> them for some external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:
>> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +... 
>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:
>> 
>> I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. 
>> We scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not 
>> wanted. However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out 
>> differently, please let me know.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930
>>> 
>>> I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just 
>>> trying it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.
>>> 
>>> I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our 
>>> Smart TV in our living room...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:58 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know if the Apple TV will work if it is plugged directly into a 
>>>  soundbar such as one of the Sonos devices rather than into a  tv and 
>>> thence to a soundbar?
>>> 
>>> I am trying to create a TV sound receiver for a small bedroom and don't 
>>> want a  full sized TV screen as I can't se

RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, they do have good deals for those who are not yet invested in Sonos. I was 
hoping to get the 20% off the new Sub Mini, but no such luck, the only deal I 
saw here in Canada is a little over 10% off and then you have to buy it with a 
set of Sonos One or Sonos SL speakers and I don't need them. Oh well, I think I 
may have some older Sonos One first generation speakers and I could use the 15% 
upgrade credit Sonos offers to buy a Sub Mini and then sell them since I 
currently have more Sonos speakers than I really need or use.

-Original Message-
From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 1:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Hello all,

Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version which 
arrived last week.

I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and the 
speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% faster 
than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a sound only 
system.

I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
Friday and will report back on what happens.


Gary


On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these gadgets 
> I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, hook it up 
> to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has and see if 
> it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund or look into 
> whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it work.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Matthew Bullis
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>
> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You connect 
> an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your audio out 
> through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or gaming consoles 
> don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have them for some 
> external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:
> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +... 
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
> Matthew
>
>
> On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:
>
> I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. 
> We scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not 
> wanted. However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out 
> differently, please let me know.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930
>>
>> I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just 
>> trying it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.
>>
>> I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our 
>> Smart TV in our living room...
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:58 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Does anyone know if the Apple TV will work if it is plugged directly into a  
>> soundbar such as one of the Sonos devices rather than into a  tv and thence 
>> to a soundbar?
>>
>> I am trying to create a TV sound receiver for a small bedroom and don't want 
>> a  full sized TV screen as I can't see it anyway.
>>
>> I am suspicious that the Apple TV box will complain because it can't see a 
>> display device..
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Gary
>>
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RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Given Apple has a 30-day return policy you could always try it if you don't get 
a definite answer. My guess is that it would work. The only Sonos soundbars 
with an HDMI input are the Arc and the Beam, the smaller/less expensive Ray 
does not have an HDMI input.
Do you already have another Apple TV with a TV connected and a Sonos setup 
elsewhere in the house? If so  you could always whatever you want to listen to 
there and group any Sonos speaker you want even if it were just a single Sonos 
SL which I believe would be the cheapest Sonos speaker you can buy.
If my TV wasn't mounted inside a cabinet with very little clearance which makes 
it more difficult to unplug things and plug them back in I'd try it because we 
have a Sonos Arc, but our Apple TV is connected by HDMI to the TV and then the 
Sonos Arc is connected also by HDMI to the eARC port of our LG Tv. I am most 
likely going to upgrade to the recently released Apple TV 4K as ours is if I 
remember correctly the first Generation Apple TV 4K which was released in 2017 
with the A10X processor, then they released the second Gen with the A12X 
processor just last year and this year the third generation with the A15X CPU 
which I understand is very noticeably faster and of course it comes with the 
new remote. If I do I can try to connect it directly to the Arc before I put it 
in place and hide all the cables behind our cabinet.


-Original Message-
From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Hi all,

Does anyone know if the Apple TV will work if it is plugged directly into a  
soundbar such as one of the Sonos devices rather than into a  tv and thence to 
a soundbar?

I am trying to create a TV sound receiver for a small bedroom and don't want a  
full sized TV screen as I can't see it anyway.

I am suspicious that the Apple TV box will complain because it can't see a 
display device..

Thanks

Gary

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Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

For what it is worth, I do have my Apple TV plugged into the HDMI port of my 
receiver.  This is a Marantz receiver.  This works fine with the Apple device 
and does not require my TV to be connected or on for the Apple device to work.  
The Apple device is the newest 4K unit.


> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
> what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version which 
> arrived last week.
> 
> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and 
> the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% 
> faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a 
> sound only system.
> 
> I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
> Friday and will report back on what happens.
> 
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
>> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
>> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
>> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these gadgets 
>> I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, hook it 
>> up to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has and see 
>> if it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund or look 
>> into whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it work.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Matthew Bullis
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>> 
>> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You 
>> connect an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your 
>> audio out through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or 
>> gaming consoles don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have 
>> them for some external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:
>> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +... 
>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:
>> 
>> I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. 
>> We scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not 
>> wanted. However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out 
>> differently, please let me know.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930
>>> 
>>> I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just 
>>> trying it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.
>>> 
>>> I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our 
>>> Smart TV in our living room...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:58 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know if the Apple TV will work if it is plugged directly into a 
>>>  soundbar such as one of the Sonos devices rather than into a  tv and 
>>> thence to a soundbar?
>>> 
>>> I am trying to create a TV sound receiver for a small bedroom and don't 
>>> want a  full sized TV screen as I can't see it anyway.
>>> 
>>> I am suspicious that the Apple TV box will complain because it can't see a 
>>> display device..
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Gary
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Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

[Joney Owen]

Darn. That means that since I only have the optical cable connections on my 
sound bar, it won’t work. :-(

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 20, 2022, at 4:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these gadgets 
> I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, hook it up 
> to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has and see if 
> it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund or look into 
> whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it work.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Matthew Bullis
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?
> 
> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You connect 
> an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your audio out 
> through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or gaming consoles 
> don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have them for some 
> external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:
> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +... 
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
> Matthew
> 
> 
> On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:
> 
> I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. 
> We scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not 
> wanted. However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out 
> differently, please let me know.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930
>> 
>> I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just 
>> trying it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.
>> 
>> I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our 
>> Smart TV in our living room...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:58 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Does anyone know if the Apple TV will work if it is plugged directly into a  
>> soundbar such as one of the Sonos devices rather than into a  tv and thence 
>> to a soundbar?
>> 
>> I am trying to create a TV sound receiver for a small bedroom and don't want 
>> a  full sized TV screen as I can't see it anyway.
>> 
>> I am suspicious that the Apple TV box will complain because it can't see a 
>> display device..
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
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Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

['Gary Robinson' via VIPhone]

Hello all,

Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its 
some what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K 
version which arrived last week.


I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote 
and the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is 
some 30% faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could 
create a sound only system.


I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this 
Black Friday and will report back on what happens.



Gary


On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have only 
HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the audio 
coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, but 
whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these gadgets I 
would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, hook it up to 
my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has and see if it 
works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund or look into 
whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it work.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Matthew 
Bullis
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You connect 
an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your audio out 
through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or gaming consoles 
don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have them for some external 
speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:
ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +... 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Matthew


On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:

I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. We 
scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not wanted. 
However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out differently, 
please let me know.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930

I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just trying 
it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.

I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our Smart 
TV in our living room...



Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Hi all,

Does anyone know if the Apple TV will work if it is plugged directly into a  
soundbar such as one of the Sonos devices rather than into a  tv and thence to 
a soundbar?

I am trying to create a TV sound receiver for a small bedroom and don't want a  
full sized TV screen as I can't see it anyway.

I am suspicious that the Apple TV box will complain because it can't see a 
display device..

Thanks

Gary

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RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have only 
HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the audio 
coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, but 
whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these gadgets I 
would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, hook it up to 
my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has and see if it 
works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund or look into 
whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it work.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Matthew 
Bullis
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You connect 
an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your audio out 
through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or gaming consoles 
don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have them for some external 
speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:
ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +... 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Matthew


On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:

I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. We 
scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not wanted. 
However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out differently, 
please let me know.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930
> 
> I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just 
> trying it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.
> 
> I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our 
> Smart TV in our living room...
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple TV without a physical screen?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Does anyone know if the Apple TV will work if it is plugged directly into a  
> soundbar such as one of the Sonos devices rather than into a  tv and thence 
> to a soundbar?
> 
> I am trying to create a TV sound receiver for a small bedroom and don't want 
> a  full sized TV screen as I can't see it anyway.
> 
> I am suspicious that the Apple TV box will complain because it can't see a 
> display device..
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Gary
> 
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RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi again,

So it would seem that you cannot plug an Apple TV directly into the HDMI port 
of a Sonos Beam or Arc. Here is part of an article I found on iMore:

Can you use Sonos Beam with Apple TV?
Best Answer: Yes! While the Sonos Beam doesn't work directly with the Apple TV, 
there is a workaround. Basically, you plug in the Apple TV to your TV via HDMI. 
Then, plug your Sonos Beam into your TV through the HDMI-ARC port, ensuring 
that HDMI-CEC is enabled (this allows devices to work better together).
If everything is working as it should, the audio from your Apple TV should go 
to the TV, relaying it through the Sonos Beam. If your TV is older than five 
years or doesn't have an HDMI-ARC connection, you need to use an optical audio 
adapter included with the Beam.

Question: So I can't just plug in my Beam to the Apple TV itself?
Unfortunately not. The Sonos Beam must get plugged in through an HDMI-ARC 
connection, which even the best Apple TV doesn't have, but most modern TVs do. 
HDMI-ARC (Audio Return Channel) is a special signal unique to TVs and therefore 
gets a different label than a typical HDMI port.

I forgot to check when this article was written, but another Google search 
indicates that the Apple TV 4K 2nd Generation which was released in 2021 as 
well as the newly released Apple TV 4K 3rd Gen do in fact have and support 
HDMI-ARC as well as e-ARC (enhanced audio return channel). If this is so a 2nd 
Gen or brand-new 3rd Gen Apple TV 4K may very well work if directly connected 
to a Sonos Beam, Arc or Sonos Amp. Just make sure you have an HDMI cable which 
is capable of this, the one which comes with your Sonos soundbar should be 
fine. 

Alternatively you can get these splitters/audio extractors where you connect 
your Apple TV to the audio extractor and it then has most likely even analogue 
outputs, but then you may need another adapter to go from the audio extractor 
to your Beam or you could of course get a Sonos Five which has a 3.5mm audio 
input or a Sonos Port which has both analogue RCA inputs (the old left and 
right, red/white) as well as Coax digital inputs. However, then you have to 
also connect powered speakers to the Sonos Port unless you in turn connect it 
to an existing receiver or amplifier which has speakers connected.
What I am saying is that almost everything is possible, but it may not always 
be practical.

-Original Message-
From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Hi all,

Does anyone know if the Apple TV will work if it is plugged directly into a  
soundbar such as one of the Sonos devices rather than into a  tv and thence to 
a soundbar?

I am trying to create a TV sound receiver for a small bedroom and don't want a  
full sized TV screen as I can't see it anyway.

I am suspicious that the Apple TV box will complain because it can't see a 
display device..

Thanks

Gary

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RE: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

[la...@comcast.net]

If I understand this,  you still need a TV? My cable company has something 
called Stream. I can get all the television I want using my iPhone. Since 
something has gone wrong between my router, my TV, and its remote, and since it 
takes from ten to fifteen seconds for the sound to come up for me to know if 
the TV is on, I like this choice, but would prefer something which could be 
used even if I leave Comcast. 

- Original Message -
From: Matthew Bullis 
Date: Saturday, November 19, 2022 03:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You connect 
an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your audio out 
through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or gaming consoles 
don't have their own audio outputs, and you need to have them for some external 
speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:
ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +... 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Matthew

On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:
I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. We 
scuffed at a bit, because they couldn't understand why the TV was not wanted. 
However, I don't believe it works without the TV. If you find out differently, 
please let me know.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930
> 
> I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just 
> trying it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.
> 
> I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our 
> Smart TV in our living room...
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple TV without a physical screen?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Does anyone know if the Apple TV will work if it is plugged directly into a  
> soundbar such as one of the Sonos devices rather than into a  tv and thence 
> to a soundbar?
> 
> I am trying to create a TV sound receiver for a small bedroom and don't want 
> a  full sized TV screen as I can't see it anyway.
> 
> I am suspicious that the Apple TV box will complain because it can't see a 
> display device..
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Gary
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Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

[Matthew Bullis]

Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You connect 
an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your audio out 
through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or gaming consoles 
don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have them for some external 
speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:
ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +... 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Matthew


On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:

I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. We 
scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not wanted. 
However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out differently, 
please let me know.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930
> 
> I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just 
> trying it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.
> 
> I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our 
> Smart TV in our living room...
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple TV without a physical screen?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Does anyone know if the Apple TV will work if it is plugged directly into a  
> soundbar such as one of the Sonos devices rather than into a  tv and thence 
> to a soundbar?
> 
> I am trying to create a TV sound receiver for a small bedroom and don't want 
> a  full sized TV screen as I can't see it anyway.
> 
> I am suspicious that the Apple TV box will complain because it can't see a 
> display device..
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Gary
> 
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Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

[Joney Owen]

I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. We 
scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not wanted. 
However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out differently, 
please let me know.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930
> 
> I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just 
> trying it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.
> 
> I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our 
> Smart TV in our living room...
> 
> 
> 
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> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Apple TV without a physical screen?
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> Hi all,
> 
> Does anyone know if the Apple TV will work if it is plugged directly into a  
> soundbar such as one of the Sonos devices rather than into a  tv and thence 
> to a soundbar?
> 
> I am trying to create a TV sound receiver for a small bedroom and don't want 
> a  full sized TV screen as I can't see it anyway.
> 
> I am suspicious that the Apple TV box will complain because it can't see a 
> display device..
> 
> Thanks
> 
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RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

[Richard Turner]

Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930

I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just trying 
it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.

I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our Smart 
TV in our living room...



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My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
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Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:58 AM
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Subject: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Hi all,

Does anyone know if the Apple TV will work if it is plugged directly into a  
soundbar such as one of the Sonos devices rather than into a  tv and thence to 
a soundbar?

I am trying to create a TV sound receiver for a small bedroom and don't want a  
full sized TV screen as I can't see it anyway.

I am suspicious that the Apple TV box will complain because it can't see a 
display device..

Thanks

Gary

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RE: Apple TV

[chrisjudge1967]

Looks like I'll be buying a couple. Thanks.

Chris Judge


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Sent: June 8, 2022 4:07 PM
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Subject: RE: Apple TV

Hi. Yes it can. I purchased one for a second 4k Apple TV that I have that had 
the older touch remote. I believe I paid around $50 or so for it. Just pair it 
up and it works great.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

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Subject: RE: Apple TV

Hey Rick. Do you know if these newer remotes can be purchased to work with 
apple TV devices that originally had the siri remote with the pad?

Thanks.

Chris Judge


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Sent: June 7, 2022 10:35 AM
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Subject: RE: Apple TV

Hi Patti.

The newer remote is much easier to use because it has directional buttons you 
can push instead of using swipes. It can actually be configured to use both 
methods if you desire.  





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

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Johnson
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple TV

I am thinking of getting hte latest Apple TV device.  I didn't care for the 
previous one, I did really like the 3rd generation of Apple tv though, the 
remote was easier to use, in my opinion.

I couldn't fit the usb thing in the end to charge it.  I hope the newer remote 
is easier to use.


Patti


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RE: Apple TV

[rick.alfaro]

Hi. Yes it can. I purchased one for a second 4k Apple TV that I have that had 
the older touch remote. I believe I paid around $50 or so for it. Just pair it 
up and it works great.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

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Subject: RE: Apple TV

Hey Rick. Do you know if these newer remotes can be purchased to work with 
apple TV devices that originally had the siri remote with the pad?

Thanks.

Chris Judge


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Sent: June 7, 2022 10:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV

Hi Patti.

The newer remote is much easier to use because it has directional buttons you 
can push instead of using swipes. It can actually be configured to use both 
methods if you desire.  





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
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Johnson
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 2:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple TV

I am thinking of getting hte latest Apple TV device.  I didn't care for the 
previous one, I did really like the 3rd generation of Apple tv though, the 
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I couldn't fit the usb thing in the end to charge it.  I hope the newer remote 
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RE: Apple TV

[chrisjudge1967]

Hey Rick. Do you know if these newer remotes can be purchased to work with 
apple TV devices that originally had the siri remote with the pad?

Thanks.

Chris Judge


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Subject: RE: Apple TV

Hi Patti.

The newer remote is much easier to use because it has directional buttons you 
can push instead of using swipes. It can actually be configured to use both 
methods if you desire.  





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
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Johnson
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 2:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple TV

I am thinking of getting hte latest Apple TV device.  I didn't care for the 
previous one, I did really like the 3rd generation of Apple tv though, the 
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I couldn't fit the usb thing in the end to charge it.  I hope the newer remote 
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RE: Apple TV

[rick.alfaro]

Hi Patti.

The newer remote is much easier to use because it has directional buttons you 
can push instead of using swipes. It can actually be configured to use both 
methods if you desire.  





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

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Subject: Apple TV

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RE: Apple TV

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The Apple Remote uses a Lightning cable to charge, same as  you r phone and 
since you can plug a Lightning cable  in either way it should really be quite 
easy. Of course if you try to plug in a Micro USB or USB-C cable you will not 
have much luck.


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Subject: Apple TV

I am thinking of getting hte latest Apple TV device.  I didn't care for the 
previous one, I did really like the 3rd generation of Apple tv though, the 
remote was easier to use, in my opinion.

I couldn't fit the usb thing in the end to charge it.  I hope the newer remote 
is easier to use.


Patti


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Re: apple tv issues

[regina alvarado]

I think what you have done is gotten into navigation mode triple tap with three 
fingers and see what happens it should go back to normal. I hope this helps. 
It’s very disconcerting the first time it happened, but I called Apple 
Accessibility when it happened to me and we figured it out. Write back if you 
need any further help on this, but I think that’s what’s going on just take 
three fingers and triple tap and the opposite is true you can put it back into 
the motor in by triple tapping again. When this is doing it, do you hear clicks 
when you flick to the right or to the left if so that’s the problem.  Let me 
know. 

Reggie Alvarado 

On Sep 22, 2021, at 8:56 PM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi All,
 
I have been having a weird issue. A week ago, my apple tv stopped moving around 
in direct touch mode.  Instead if have to swipe and such to move around, but 
this doesn’t foread right in like the you tube app etc.  and now when on the 
screen when using the rotter I get speech rate, read afer delay, landmarks, and 
vertical nivagation.  Before I never got those options when it worked 
correctly.  I know if I reset my apple tv to factory defaults, it will go back 
to normal, but I don’t know what I am doing to get it in this weird mode.  I 
hate to reset it every time this happens as that is such a pain.
 
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Best,
 
Juan
 
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RE: Apple TV Question

[Richard Turner]

Good to know.
So, one could use the app on the phone and airplay to the Apple TV



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 11:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV Question

I do not believe there is an app for Xfinity for Apple TV. I just looked, and 
Siri couldn’t find anything. There is one for the fire TV, but it’s kind of 
lousy in terms of accessibility. The streaming app for the phone is much better 
accessibility wise.


Sent from my iPhone

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> 
> I do not think that is possible, unless you can install the Stream app from 
> Comcast on the Apple TV.
> I believe their accessibility people may know the answer quickly.
> Comcast/Xfinity Accessibility: 855-270-0379
> 
> 
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> We just purchased the Apple TV device, and have it working.  This is the most 
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> 
> We don't seem to be able to access the Xfinity channels from the Apple TV 
> remote.  Is there a way to accomplish this?  
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> Karen P
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Re: Apple TV Question

[Mary Otten]

I do not believe there is an app for Xfinity for Apple TV. I just looked, and 
Siri couldn’t find anything. There is one for the fire TV, but it’s kind of 
lousy in terms of accessibility. The streaming app for the phone is much better 
accessibility wise.


Sent from my iPhone

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> I do not think that is possible, unless you can install the Stream app from 
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> I believe their accessibility people may know the answer quickly.
> Comcast/Xfinity Accessibility: 855-270-0379
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> We just purchased the Apple TV device, and have it working.  This is the most 
> recent model.
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> We don't seem to be able to access the Xfinity channels from the Apple TV 
> remote.  Is there a way to accomplish this?  
> 
> Karen P
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RE: Apple TV Question

[Richard Turner]

I do not think that is possible, unless you can install the Stream app from 
Comcast on the Apple TV.
I believe their accessibility people may know the answer quickly.
Comcast/Xfinity Accessibility: 855-270-0379



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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple TV Question

We just purchased the Apple TV device, and have it working.  This is the most 
recent model.

We don't seem to be able to access the Xfinity channels from the Apple TV 
remote.  Is there a way to accomplish this?  

Karen P

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RE: Apple TV

[Richard Turner]

We bought the Samsung TU 8000 43 inch in August of 2020.
We have Xfinity/Comcast for our internet and TV provider.
Using its remote control with its voice guidance enabled, you press the Home 
button which is the  middle of three buttons just above the channel up/down and 
volume up/down toggles.
Then, using the left/right arrows on the navigation circle, you can go to Apps, 
and find and download the apps you need.  I do not remember which ones were 
already there that just had to be signed into,  I think I had to add Apple TV, 
but that was something my sighted wife helped with so I am not clear.
But, right now, if I right arrow after hitting the home button, I have (not 
necessarily in this order), Netflix, Prime Video, Apple TV, Disney Plus, 
Youtube, Hulu, Paramont plus, VuDu, and probably a couple others I cannot 
remember.
I selected Netflix and the voice guidance works through all the options so I 
can independently pick something to watch.
I often just use Voice commands because that is easier.
We often watch things together, so I just go the lazy/efficient route and let 
my wife go through the selections.

We paid $329.99  for the TV at Video Only.

HTH,

Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV

Hi does your TV have voice in the apps part or it?
I have the 32 inch that came out in 2016 the model number ends in 32 and the 
only app support it has is net flex and there is no app support for that in 
that tv.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple TV

We have a Samsung TU 8000 Smart TV.
We can watch, Apple TV, Netflicks, Amazon Prime, Youtube, and no doubt Hulu if 
we had it on just the TV.
The voice is OK, your stock Samsung voice; but along with our Xfinity remote, I 
can access all of it with few exceptions.
Voice commands work very well.
Our 3rd gen Apple TV is sitting in my wife's office not really being used since 
we got the SamSung.


Richard
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On Jun 30, 2021, at 6:41 AM, 
rick.alf...@gmail.com<mailto:rick.alf...@gmail.com> wrote:
I totally agree with Mary here. The Roku speech is absolutely horrible. Just 
think MicroSoft Sam with a hangover. Really annoying.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 12:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple TV

I can’t speak to Roku and it’s absolute latest incarnation, but what I do know 
about it for my experience is that the voice they use is hideous. I had a Roku 
stick, and it was sluggish. And although I have been using synthetic speech 
since the DOS days, I found their speech is hard to understand is anything I’ve 
ever heard in the synthetic speech world. In other words, avoid it like the 
plague.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 29, 2021, at 8:35 PM, 
jimfettgat...@gmail.com<mailto:jimfettgat...@gmail.com> wrote:

May I suggest that especially with the new remote, Apple TV is wonderful, and 
the only part that is sometimes a bit tricky, are the third party apps, like 
Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney, HBO Max, and perhaps others, but it is so simple 
to turn on Audio Description for many of these apps that I would not use any 
other device.
Of course, if you have Apple TV Plus, all of their original programming is 
audio described,  as is just about all Netflix programming as well.


I do know, but not from firsthand experience, that the Roku  app with a Smart 
TV is supposed  to be accessible, but there are so many different Roku devices, 
that each one is different,  and you turn on accessibility options differently, 
depending on the Roku device that you are using.
Thanks.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
Anthony Vece
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 9:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple TV

Karen; I can say with certainty that the Apple TV is very accessible.
I’ve never used a Roku so I’m not sure. Take care Stay safe Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

On Jun 29, 2021, at 10:19 PM, Karen Poulakos 
mailto:ka...@poulakos.com>> wrote:

I know there have been lots of messages on t

RE: Apple TV

[Casey Wollner]

Hi does your TV have voice in the apps part or it?
I have the 32 inch that came out in 2016 the model number ends in 32 and the 
only app support it has is net flex and there is no app support for that in 
that tv.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV
 
We have a Samsung TU 8000 Smart TV. 
We can watch, Apple TV, Netflicks, Amazon Prime, Youtube, and no doubt Hulu if 
we had it on just the TV.
The voice is OK, your stock Samsung voice; but along with our Xfinity remote, I 
can access all of it with few exceptions.
Voice commands work very well.
Our 3rd gen Apple TV is sitting in my wife's office not really being used since 
we got the SamSung.
 
 
Richard 
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
 
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On Jun 30, 2021, at 6:41 AM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
I totally agree with Mary here. The Roku speech is absolutely horrible. Just 
think MicroSoft Sam with a hangover. Really annoying.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 12:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV

I can’t speak to Roku and it’s absolute latest incarnation, but what I do know 
about it for my experience is that the voice they use is hideous. I had a Roku 
stick, and it was sluggish. And although I have been using synthetic speech 
since the DOS days, I found their speech is hard to understand is anything I’ve 
ever heard in the synthetic speech world. In other words, avoid it like the 
plague.


Sent from my iPhone



On Jun 29, 2021, at 8:35 PM, jimfettgat...@gmail.com wrote:
 
May I suggest that especially with the new remote, Apple TV is wonderful, and 
the only part that is sometimes a bit tricky, are the third party apps, like 
Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney, HBO Max, and perhaps others, but it is so simple 
to turn on Audio Description for many of these apps that I would not use any 
other device.
Of course, if you have Apple TV Plus, all of their original programming is 
audio described,  as is just about all Netflix programming as well.
 
 
I do know, but not from firsthand experience, that the Roku  app with a Smart 
TV is supposed  to be accessible, but there are so many different Roku devices, 
that each one is different,  and you turn on accessibility options differently, 
depending on the Roku device that you are using.
Thanks.
 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Anthony Vece
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 9:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV
 
Karen; I can say with certainty that the Apple TV is very accessible.
I’ve never used a Roku so I’m not sure. Take care Stay safe Anthony
 
Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
 
On Jun 29, 2021, at 10:19 PM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
 
I know there have been lots of messages on this topic in the past.  
However, I didn't really pay attention to them because I wasn't 
needing the information.
 
We currently have a Roku, and are thinking about changing to Apple 
TV.  I have to admit that I never concerned myself with 
accessibility, and just let my husband control the remote, since we 
seemed to enjoy much of the same programing.
 
For those of you who have had experience with both; Which do you 
prefer, and why?
 
Would the Apple TV be as accessible as other Apple devices?
 
Thanks.
 
Karen P
 
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RE: Apple TV

[Larry Lumpkin]

I don't particularly like the roku speech either but it does work and roku is 
very accessible which is why I bought it in the first place.


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rick.alf...@gmail.com
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV

I totally agree with Mary here. The Roku speech is absolutely horrible. Just 
think MicroSoft Sam with a hangover. Really annoying.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 12:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV

I can’t speak to Roku and it’s absolute latest incarnation, but what I do know 
about it for my experience is that the voice they use is hideous. I had a Roku 
stick, and it was sluggish. And although I have been using synthetic speech 
since the DOS days, I found their speech is hard to understand is anything I’ve 
ever heard in the synthetic speech world. In other words, avoid it like the 
plague.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 29, 2021, at 8:35 PM, jimfettgat...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> May I suggest that especially with the new remote, Apple TV is wonderful, 
> and the only part that is sometimes a bit tricky, are the third party apps, 
> like Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney, HBO Max, and perhaps others, but it is so 
> simple to turn on Audio Description for many of these apps that I would not 
> use any other device.
> Of course, if you have Apple TV Plus, all of their original programming is 
> audio described,  as is just about all Netflix programming as well.
> 
> 
> I do know, but not from firsthand experience, that the Roku  app with a Smart 
> TV is supposed  to be accessible, but there are so many different Roku 
> devices, that each one is different,  and you turn on accessibility options 
> differently, depending on the Roku device that you are using.
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 9:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple TV
> 
> Karen; I can say with certainty that the Apple TV is very accessible.
> I’ve never used a Roku so I’m not sure. Take care Stay safe Anthony
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>> On Jun 29, 2021, at 10:19 PM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
>> 
>> I know there have been lots of messages on this topic in the past.  
>> However, I didn't really pay attention to them because I wasn't 
>> needing the information.
>> 
>> We currently have a Roku, and are thinking about changing to Apple 
>> TV.  I have to admit that I never concerned myself with 
>> accessibility, and just let my husband control the remote, since we 
>> seemed to enjoy much of the same programing.
>> 
>> For those of you who have had experience with both; Which do you 
>> prefer, and why?
>> 
>> Would the Apple TV be as accessible as other Apple devices?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Karen P
>> 
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Re: Apple TV

[Richard Turner]

We have a Samsung TU 8000 Smart TV.
We can watch, Apple TV, Netflicks, Amazon Prime, Youtube, and no doubt Hulu if 
we had it on just the TV.
The voice is OK, your stock Samsung voice; but along with our Xfinity remote, I 
can access all of it with few exceptions.
Voice commands work very well.
Our 3rd gen Apple TV is sitting in my wife's office not really being used since 
we got the SamSung.



Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

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On Jun 30, 2021, at 6:41 AM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:

I totally agree with Mary here. The Roku speech is absolutely horrible. Just 
think MicroSoft Sam with a hangover. Really annoying.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 12:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV

I can’t speak to Roku and it’s absolute latest incarnation, but what I do know 
about it for my experience is that the voice they use is hideous. I had a Roku 
stick, and it was sluggish. And although I have been using synthetic speech 
since the DOS days, I found their speech is hard to understand is anything I’ve 
ever heard in the synthetic speech world. In other words, avoid it like the 
plague.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 29, 2021, at 8:35 PM, jimfettgat...@gmail.com wrote:

May I suggest that especially with the new remote, Apple TV is wonderful, and 
the only part that is sometimes a bit tricky, are the third party apps, like 
Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney, HBO Max, and perhaps others, but it is so simple 
to turn on Audio Description for many of these apps that I would not use any 
other device.
Of course, if you have Apple TV Plus, all of their original programming is 
audio described,  as is just about all Netflix programming as well.


I do know, but not from firsthand experience, that the Roku  app with a Smart 
TV is supposed  to be accessible, but there are so many different Roku devices, 
that each one is different,  and you turn on accessibility options differently, 
depending on the Roku device that you are using.
Thanks.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Anthony Vece
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 9:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV

Karen; I can say with certainty that the Apple TV is very accessible.
I’ve never used a Roku so I’m not sure. Take care Stay safe Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

On Jun 29, 2021, at 10:19 PM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:

I know there have been lots of messages on this topic in the past.
However, I didn't really pay attention to them because I wasn't
needing the information.

We currently have a Roku, and are thinking about changing to Apple
TV.  I have to admit that I never concerned myself with
accessibility, and just let my husband control the remote, since we
seemed to enjoy much of the same programing.

For those of you who have had experience with both; Which do you
prefer, and why?

Would the Apple TV be as accessible as other Apple devices?

Thanks.

Karen P

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RE: Apple TV

[rick.alfaro]

I totally agree with Mary here. The Roku speech is absolutely horrible. Just 
think MicroSoft Sam with a hangover. Really annoying.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 12:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV

I can’t speak to Roku and it’s absolute latest incarnation, but what I do know 
about it for my experience is that the voice they use is hideous. I had a Roku 
stick, and it was sluggish. And although I have been using synthetic speech 
since the DOS days, I found their speech is hard to understand is anything I’ve 
ever heard in the synthetic speech world. In other words, avoid it like the 
plague.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 29, 2021, at 8:35 PM, jimfettgat...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> May I suggest that especially with the new remote, Apple TV is wonderful, 
> and the only part that is sometimes a bit tricky, are the third party apps, 
> like Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney, HBO Max, and perhaps others, but it is so 
> simple to turn on Audio Description for many of these apps that I would not 
> use any other device.
> Of course, if you have Apple TV Plus, all of their original programming is 
> audio described,  as is just about all Netflix programming as well.
> 
> 
> I do know, but not from firsthand experience, that the Roku  app with a Smart 
> TV is supposed  to be accessible, but there are so many different Roku 
> devices, that each one is different,  and you turn on accessibility options 
> differently, depending on the Roku device that you are using.
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 9:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple TV
> 
> Karen; I can say with certainty that the Apple TV is very accessible.
> I’ve never used a Roku so I’m not sure. Take care Stay safe Anthony
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>> On Jun 29, 2021, at 10:19 PM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
>> 
>> I know there have been lots of messages on this topic in the past.  
>> However, I didn't really pay attention to them because I wasn't 
>> needing the information.
>> 
>> We currently have a Roku, and are thinking about changing to Apple 
>> TV.  I have to admit that I never concerned myself with 
>> accessibility, and just let my husband control the remote, since we 
>> seemed to enjoy much of the same programing.
>> 
>> For those of you who have had experience with both; Which do you 
>> prefer, and why?
>> 
>> Would the Apple TV be as accessible as other Apple devices?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Karen P
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RE: Apple TV

[Simon A Fogarty]

I verry rarely touch the remote for my actual tv now,

Everything I do is with the apple tv remote,
The tv turns on and or off with this new remote 
And the accessibility is fantastic 
Infact the second gen siri remote is great I haven't touched the 1st gen remote 
in the time I've had the 2nd gen.

I highly recommend the apple tv 

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Vece
Sent: Wednesday, 30 June 2021 2:24 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV

Karen; I can say with certainty that the Apple TV is very accessible.
I’ve never used a Roku so I’m not sure. Take care Stay safe Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Jun 29, 2021, at 10:19 PM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
> 
> I know there have been lots of messages on this topic in the past.  
> However, I didn't really pay attention to them because I wasn't 
> needing the information.
> 
> We currently have a Roku, and are thinking about changing to Apple TV.  
> I have to admit that I never concerned myself with accessibility, and 
> just let my husband control the remote, since we seemed to enjoy much 
> of the same programing.
> 
> For those of you who have had experience with both; Which do you 
> prefer, and why?
> 
> Would the Apple TV be as accessible as other Apple devices?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Karen P
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Re: Apple TV

[Mary Otten]

I can’t speak to Roku and it’s absolute latest incarnation, but what I do know 
about it for my experience is that the voice they use is hideous. I had a Roku 
stick, and it was sluggish. And although I have been using synthetic speech 
since the DOS days, I found their speech is hard to understand is anything I’ve 
ever heard in the synthetic speech world. In other words, avoid it like the 
plague.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 29, 2021, at 8:35 PM, jimfettgat...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> May I suggest that especially with the new remote, Apple TV is wonderful, 
> and the only part that is sometimes a bit tricky, are the third party apps, 
> like Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney, HBO Max, and perhaps others, but it is so 
> simple to turn on Audio Description for many of these apps that I would not 
> use any other device.
> Of course, if you have Apple TV Plus, all of their original programming is 
> audio described,  as is just about all Netflix programming as well.
> 
> 
> I do know, but not from firsthand experience, that the Roku  app with a Smart 
> TV is supposed  to be accessible, but there are so many different Roku 
> devices, that each one is different,  and you turn on accessibility options 
> differently, depending on the Roku device that you are using.
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 9:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple TV
> 
> Karen; I can say with certainty that the Apple TV is very accessible.
> I’ve never used a Roku so I’m not sure. Take care
> Stay safe
> Anthony
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>> On Jun 29, 2021, at 10:19 PM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
>> 
>> I know there have been lots of messages on this topic in the past.  However,
>> I didn't really pay attention to them because I wasn't needing the
>> information.
>> 
>> We currently have a Roku, and are thinking about changing to Apple TV.  I
>> have to admit that I never concerned myself with accessibility, and just let
>> my husband control the remote, since we seemed to enjoy much of the same
>> programing.
>> 
>> For those of you who have had experience with both; Which do you prefer, and
>> why?
>> 
>> Would the Apple TV be as accessible as other Apple devices?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Karen P
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RE: Apple TV

[jimfettgather]

May I suggest that especially with the new remote, Apple TV is wonderful, and 
the only part that is sometimes a bit tricky, are the third party apps, like 
Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney, HBO Max, and perhaps others, but it is so simple 
to turn on Audio Description for many of these apps that I would not use any 
other device.
Of course, if you have Apple TV Plus, all of their original programming is 
audio described,  as is just about all Netflix programming as well.


I do know, but not from firsthand experience, that the Roku  app with a Smart 
TV is supposed  to be accessible, but there are so many different Roku devices, 
that each one is different,  and you turn on accessibility options differently, 
depending on the Roku device that you are using.
Thanks.

   

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Vece
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 9:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV

Karen; I can say with certainty that the Apple TV is very accessible.
I’ve never used a Roku so I’m not sure. Take care
Stay safe
Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

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> have to admit that I never concerned myself with accessibility, and just let
> my husband control the remote, since we seemed to enjoy much of the same
> programing.
> 
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> Would the Apple TV be as accessible as other Apple devices?
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Re: Apple TV

[Anthony Vece]

Karen; I can say with certainty that the Apple TV is very accessible.
I’ve never used a Roku so I’m not sure. Take care
Stay safe
Anthony

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> have to admit that I never concerned myself with accessibility, and just let
> my husband control the remote, since we seemed to enjoy much of the same
> programing.
> 
> For those of you who have had experience with both; Which do you prefer, and
> why?
> 
> Would the Apple TV be as accessible as other Apple devices?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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RE: Apple TV MLB app calendar

[Dennis Long]

I would absolutely make MLB aware of this.  Unfortunately I can't be any help 
other then that.

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Subject: Apple TV MLB app calendar

I’m posting this to a few lists, so I hope it’s not off-topic for these  lists 
and I’m sorry for those who may see this more than once. I have a new Apple TV 
4K. I have the MLB app on this Apple TV, and it’s fairly accessible. But 
there’s one problem, well actually more than one if you count the unlabeled 
buttons, all of which I have tried in order to see if they would solve my 
problem, and they don’t.

The problem is this. I cannot find a way, while in the calendar, to go back a 
month. So for instance, if I’m in the calendar, the first month that shows up 
is June. I can then advance through July and August etc. But I cannot go back 
to May or April for that matter, never mind the archive games from the last 
couple of years that you’re supposed to be able to access. Has anyone figured 
out a way to do this?
Mary


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RE: Apple TV

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Nancy,

Under the settings tab there should be a remotes options which should let you 
set it up as a second remote.

I've been using mine since I got the atv 4k 

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Simon,
We have a couple of those. How do you make it pair up?
Nancy

Nancy Badger

On Dec 12, 2020, at 11:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

Or if you can get one,
Get the older remote from the apple tv 3 or 2nd gen and use that, I still think 
it works better for me.

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Subject: RE: Apple TV

You can pair a Bluetooth keyboard with the apple tv 4. The apple tv 4k's remote 
is much the same. It is very accessible but takes some practice and patience

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Subject: Apple TV

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happy holidays!

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Re: Apple TV

[Rajiv Shah]

Hi,

I did not have the older Apple TV, however, I do have th 5th gen one. Have you 
tried using the Apple Remote app with your Apple TV via your IOS device? That 
seems to work better.

Rajiv
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Subject: Apple TV

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remote works. Does anyone know if the gnu Apple TV has the same remote or did 
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Re: Apple TV

[Marie N.]

Just move in front of the Apple TV and the old remote will pair 
automatically. You can buy the remote from Amazon if necessary. I bought a 
couple as backups, because I also think they are much easier to use.

Marie
.

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Simon,
We have a couple of those. How do you make it pair up?
Nancy

Nancy Badger

On Dec 12, 2020, at 11:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

Or if you can get one,
Get the older remote from the apple tv 3 or 2nd gen and use that,
I still think it works better for me.

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Lumpkin

Sent: Sunday, 13 December 2020 4:23 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV

You can pair a Bluetooth keyboard with the apple tv 4. The apple tv 4k's 
remote is much the same. It is very accessible but takes some practice and 
patience


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Subject: Apple TV

Hi everyone,
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remote works. Does anyone know if the gnu Apple TV has the same remote or 
did it get better? Also, does anyone know if there is a way to pair the 
older remotes from version one through three with  Apple TV 4? Thanks very 
much and happy holidays!


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Re: Apple TV

['Nancy Badger' via VIPhone]

Simon,
We have a couple of those. How do you make it pair up?
Nancy

Nancy Badger

On Dec 12, 2020, at 11:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

Or if you can get one,
Get the older remote from the apple tv 3 or 2nd gen and use that,
I still think it works better for me.

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Lumpkin
Sent: Sunday, 13 December 2020 4:23 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV

You can pair a Bluetooth keyboard with the apple tv 4. The apple tv 4k's remote 
is much the same. It is very accessible but takes some practice and patience

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RE: Apple TV

[Simon A Fogarty]

Or if you can get one,
Get the older remote from the apple tv 3 or 2nd gen and use that,
I still think it works better for me.

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Lumpkin
Sent: Sunday, 13 December 2020 4:23 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV

You can pair a Bluetooth keyboard with the apple tv 4. The apple tv 4k's remote 
is much the same. It is very accessible but takes some practice and patience

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Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 9:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple TV

Hi everyone,
We have an Apple TV fourth generation. We have never been happy with how the 
remote works. Does anyone know if the gnu Apple TV has the same remote or did 
it get better? Also, does anyone know if there is a way to pair the older 
remotes from version one through three with  Apple TV 4? Thanks very much and 
happy holidays!

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RE: Apple TV

[Larry Lumpkin]

You can pair a Bluetooth keyboard with the apple tv 4. The apple tv 4k's remote 
is much the same. It is very accessible but takes some practice and patience

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Subject: Apple TV

Hi everyone,
We have an Apple TV fourth generation. We have never been happy with how the 
remote works. Does anyone know if the gnu Apple TV has the same remote or did 
it get better? Also, does anyone know if there is a way to pair the older 
remotes from version one through three with  Apple TV 4? Thanks very much and 
happy holidays!

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RE: Apple TV and apps

[Richard Turner]

Along with what Sieghard said, you can airplay anything you want from your 
phone to the Apple TV.  You can also use Screen Mirroring to have the iPhone 
screen on your TV, handy for low-vision users wanting to see their photographs 
more clearly.
Depending on the TV, you can download lots of apps.
Here is a snipit from an Apple support page followed by the link:
Browse or search the App Store
Open the App Store App Store on Apple TV.

In the menu bar, swipe to any of the following categories:

Discover: Browse a great selection of apps chosen by the App Store.

Apps: Browse apps by category.

Games: Browse games in the App Store.

Arcade: Browse games available in Apple Arcade, an ad-free subscription-based 
gaming service. See Find games in Apple Arcade.

Purchased: See the apps you’ve purchased in the App Store—including any apps 
purchased on other iOS or iPadOS devices that have a custom Apple TV version of 
the app, as well as purchases by Family Sharing members.

Search button Search: Enter a search term to find apps by name.

Use Siri to find apps
You can use Siri to dictate while using Search or at any time to find apps on 
Apple TV.

Do one of the following:

In the Search screen of the App Store App Store, highlight the text entry 
field, press and hold the Siri button Siri button on the Siri Remote, and speak.

For more information, see Use Siri dictation on Apple TV.

>From anywhere else on Apple TV, press and hold the Siri button Siri button on 
>the Siri Remote, and speak.

You can search for apps by name, developer, or category.

Ask Siri. Say something like:

“Find Crossy Road”

“Find weather apps”

“What are some new sports apps?”

“Find apps by Apple”

Note: If you get movie and TV results instead of apps, try including “app” at 
the end of your Siri request: “Find Crossy Road app.” 

https://support.apple.com/guide/tv/find-apps-atvb5a7dd799/tvos
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 7:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV and apps

There is no browser for the Apple TV as far as I know and neither is there an 
email client and you can't text with it (not sure why you would want to).
You do of course have the YouTube app and for things like Facebook if there are 
concerts you want to listen to, then that is what Airplay would be for, just 
play the concert on your iPhone and Airplay it to your Apple TV, you will  find 
this in control centre.


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Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 5:20 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: Apple TV and apps

Hi there,
So now that I am playing with the Apple TV, I wonder about apps for it. For 
instance, am I able to do things like email, texting and other things like 
Facebook or Twitter?
I stream Facebook live concerts and it would be cool to have them coming 
through the Apple TV which is hooked up to my home entertainment system.
Tom

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RE: Apple TV and apps

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There is no browser for the Apple TV as far as I know and neither is there an 
email client and you can't text with it (not sure why you would want to).
You do of course have the YouTube app and for things like Facebook if there are 
concerts you want to listen to, then that is what Airplay would be for, just 
play the concert on your iPhone and Airplay it to your Apple TV, you will  find 
this in control centre.


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Cramer
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 5:20 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: Apple TV and apps

Hi there,
So now that I am playing with the Apple TV, I wonder about apps for it. For 
instance, am I able to do things like email, texting and other things like 
Facebook or Twitter?
I stream Facebook live concerts and it would be cool to have them coming 
through the Apple TV which is hooked up to my home entertainment system.
Tom

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RE: Apple TV and apps

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello, I do not believe that you can use Twitter or email through your Apple 
TV, but one thing that you can do, which I have done quite often is to  use 
Screen Mirroring in Control Center to Stream Facebook Live, Youtube, and any 
other apps that produce audio or video.
If you have the correct hardware, you can literally connect your phone via the 
lightning port to HDMI output to your entertainment system, this hardware is 
sometimes called an iPhone camera kit.
I have streamed to the apple tv both ways, and some apps even support airplay, 
which is also another third method for getting sound or video from your phone 
to your home theater system to Apple TV.

  

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Sorry priscilla your message is blank

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> On Nov 30, 2020, at 8:20 PM, Tom Cramer  wrote:
>
> Hi there,
> So now that I am playing with the Apple TV, I wonder about apps for
> it. For instance, am I able to do things like email, texting and other
> things like Facebook or Twitter?
> I stream Facebook live concerts and it would be cool to have them
> coming through the Apple TV which is hooked up to my home
> entertainment system.
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Re: Apple TV and apps

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Sorry priscilla your message is blank

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On Nov 30, 2020, at 8:20 PM, Tom Cramer  wrote:

Hi there,
So now that I am playing with the Apple TV, I wonder about apps for
it. For instance, am I able to do things like email, texting and other
things like Facebook or Twitter?
I stream Facebook live concerts and it would be cool to have them
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Re: Apple TV and apps

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> On Nov 30, 2020, at 8:20 PM, Tom Cramer  wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> So now that I am playing with the Apple TV, I wonder about apps for
> it. For instance, am I able to do things like email, texting and other
> things like Facebook or Twitter?
> I stream Facebook live concerts and it would be cool to have them
> coming through the Apple TV which is hooked up to my home
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RE: Apple TV and apps

[Simon A Fogarty]

Face book yes but email and or texting I've never tried to do that but can't 
see why not if the apps are there.

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Hi there,
So now that I am playing with the Apple TV, I wonder about apps for it. For 
instance, am I able to do things like email, texting and other things like 
Facebook or Twitter?
I stream Facebook live concerts and it would be cool to have them coming 
through the Apple TV which is hooked up to my home entertainment system.
Tom

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RE: Apple TV setup

[Simon A Fogarty]

Easy as falling over to setup yourself.



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Hello,
I was just given a new Apple TV 4k. I am wondering how easy it is to set up. Is 
this something I can do on my own or will I need sighted help?

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RE: Apple TV setup

[Larry Lumpkin]

You should be able to set it up unaided. Something very helpful would be the 
apple 4 tv tutorial sold by MMystic Access. I think it sells for $40 or so.


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Hello,
I was just given a new Apple TV 4k. I am wondering how easy it is to set up. Is 
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Re: Apple TV and direct touch

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello, It seems like direct touch has an effect on whether 3 different
areas are accessible or work properly.
What they are referring to as Top Shelf, then another area called
Watch Now, and finally, the typical rows and columns of the interface
containing all of your regular apps.
To add to the confusion, some third party apps, when launched, will
result in Voiceover saying, Direct Touch Area.
It sounds as if in cases such as these, there is no other choice than
to use Direct Touch.
It seems quite counter intuitive and no documentation that I have located.
Thanks.

On 10/27/20, Julian  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I believe that if you do a two finger triple tap on the touchpad of the
> Apple TV remote but it will toggle it back to the other rotor options. God
> only knows why Apple decided to do this, I see no practical use for taking
> direct touch out of the rotor and adding this extra step to the process.
>
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>> state. The only options I seem to have an a rotor are speech rate, read
>> after screen delay, and sometimes an actions rotor option, which I can
>> never really seem to get to work. As a result I have about nine apps that
>> I can’t close. Any way to turn the direct touch capabilities off so I can
>> actually navigate in a ot zooming speed around the screen?
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Re: Apple TV and direct touch

[Julian]

Hi,

I believe that if you do a two finger triple tap on the touchpad of the Apple 
TV remote but it will toggle it back to the other rotor options. God only knows 
why Apple decided to do this, I see no practical use for taking direct touch 
out of the rotor and adding this extra step to the process.

Sent from my iPhone

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> only options I seem to have an a rotor are speech rate, read after screen 
> delay, and sometimes an actions rotor option, which I can never really seem 
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> ot zooming speed around the screen?
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RE: Apple TV Plus, Tehran

[Peter Logan]

Yeah .. actually it is described .. I had to change it to “Hebrew AD” ..  there 
was no “English AD’ .. so, looks like they just have something messed up on 
that ..

 

 

 

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Fogarty
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 10:48 PM
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I haven’t watched that one,

But did watch the show “See” when it came out,

 

It had very good Audio description 

And I thought apple was putting AD into all their shows.

 

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Subject: Apple TV Plus, Tehran

 

Has anyone watched this new series from Apple, and if so did the Audio 
Description work?

 

I started watching this the other day and after several minutes gave up as 
there was no AD.  According to the details this is supposed to have AD.  All of 
the other Apple TV Plus shows that I have tried out have had it, and I double 
checked that I hadn’t set the AD to off accidently .. I hadn’t ..

 

 

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RE: Apple TV Plus, Tehran

[Simon A Fogarty]

I haven’t watched that one,
But did watch the show “See” when it came out,

It had very good Audio description
And I thought apple was putting AD into all their shows.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter 
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Sent: Tuesday, 29 September 2020 9:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple TV Plus, Tehran

Has anyone watched this new series from Apple, and if so did the Audio 
Description work?

I started watching this the other day and after several minutes gave up as 
there was no AD.  According to the details this is supposed to have AD.  All of 
the other Apple TV Plus shows that I have tried out have had it, and I double 
checked that I hadn’t set the AD to off accidently .. I hadn’t ..


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RE: Apple TV Plus, Tehran

[Peter Logan]

Thanks .. Yeah I see that .. and that did work ..

 

Interesting there isn’t an ‘english’ choice .. but the “hebrew’ choice is 
English .. they must have something messed up ..

 

Oh well .. now I can give it a listen and see if it’s worth watching …

 

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Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 10:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV Plus, Tehran

 

Hi Peter,

 

after doing some investigating, I looked in the audio and subtitle settings for 
the show and noticed that there is no English choice. By default, Hebrew is 
selected. Now there is a Hebrew AD choice. After selecting Hebrew AD, audio 
description worked like normal.

So AD is available, you just have to select that option for it to start working.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Chris

 





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Has anyone watched this new series from Apple, and if so did the Audio 
Description work?

 

I started watching this the other day and after several minutes gave up as 
there was no AD.  According to the details this is supposed to have AD.  All of 
the other Apple TV Plus shows that I have tried out have had it, and I double 
checked that I hadn’t set the AD to off accidently .. I hadn’t ..

 

 

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Re: Apple TV Plus, Tehran

[Chris Chaffin]

Hi Peter,

after doing some investigating, I looked in the audio and subtitle settings for 
the show and noticed that there is no English choice. By default, Hebrew is 
selected. Now there is a Hebrew AD choice. After selecting Hebrew AD, audio 
description worked like normal.
So AD is available, you just have to select that option for it to start working.

Hope this helps.

Chris


> On Sep 28, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Peter Logan  wrote:
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> Has anyone watched this new series from Apple, and if so did the Audio 
> Description work?
>  
> I started watching this the other day and after several minutes gave up as 
> there was no AD.  According to the details this is supposed to have AD.  All 
> of the other Apple TV Plus shows that I have tried out have had it, and I 
> double checked that I hadn’t set the AD to off accidently .. I hadn’t ..
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Re: Apple TV Plus, Tehran

[Mary Otten]

I don’t subscribe to Apple TV+, but if I did and I wanted to watch that show, I 
would certainly write to Accessibility at Apple and let them know that the 
audio description is not working. I imagine if you do that, they’ll fix it. I 
seem to remember hearing about another such case where it was fixed when 
somebody complained.


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>> there was no AD.  According to the details this is supposed to have AD.  All 
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Re: Apple TV Plus, Tehran

[Barry Abbott]

Hi Peter. I also could not get Audio Description so stopped watching Tehran.
Barry Abbott
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RE: Apple TV Plus

[Mich Verrier]

Hi yes I have a apple tv 4 and the remote is usible with voice over. What are 
you having problums with? Frm Mich.

 

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Just got Apple TV and am trying to master using this little Apple remote.  Are 
you all using the Apple TV remote successfully with voice over?

 

 

 




 

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For All Mankind is possibly the best drama with the best plot, dialog, and 
audio description that I have ever had the pleasure to watch.

It is amazing and fantastic.

 

 

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I liked The Morninig Show!

 

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I’m talking here about the streaming service, not the device. I’m looking for 
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it was excellent! The video description was as good as it could be! Now I’m 
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RE: Apple TV Plus

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Just got Apple TV and am trying to master using this little Apple remote.  Are 
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RE: Apple tv with voiceover

[Simon A Fogarty]

No siri doesn’t work in new Zealand on an apple tv 4k either,

It’s not an issue with the tv
It’s an issue with apples siri services and action between the shows on the tv



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Siri doesn't work in Israel on an Apple TV.

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי


‫ב-29 ביוני 2020, בשעה 17:36, ‏‏'Annelie Robledo' via VIPhone 
‏mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> כתב/ה:
What you could also do.  tell Siri to turn voiceover on you would press the 
second button on the left side
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On Jun 29, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Francisco Salvador Crespo 
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Hello.

It is quite simple. After you plug it to a power outlet and to the tv, the 
device will start. To turn Voiceover on, press the back button three times and 
it will start speaking. The back button is the first on the left side of the 
remote, right velow the trackpad.
To turn audio descriptions, you need to do it from the accessibility settings. 
This will only affect movies from Apple. to turn it on on other platforms, you 
will find it in the language settings of that particular app.

best.
Enviado desde mi iPhone


El 29 jun. 2020, a las 08:57, Afik Souffir 
mailto:afik.souf...@outlook.com>> escribió:



Hi,

I would like to purchase Apple tv. ;
How do I configure it with voiceover? How do I turn on the option for audio 
descriptions and subtitles?

Its my first time with Apple tv.


Afik




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Re: Apple tv with voiceover

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Siri doesn't work in Israel on an Apple TV.

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> ‫ב-29 ביוני 2020, בשעה 17:36, ‏‏'Annelie Robledo' via VIPhone 
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> What you could also do.  tell Siri to turn voiceover on you would press the 
> second button on the left side
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Jun 29, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Francisco Salvador Crespo 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>> Hello.
>> 
>> It is quite simple. After you plug it to a power outlet and to the tv, the 
>> device will start. To turn Voiceover on, press the back button three times 
>> and it will start speaking. The back button is the first on the left side of 
>> the remote, right velow the trackpad.
>> To turn audio descriptions, you need to do it from the accessibility 
>> settings. This will only affect movies from Apple. to turn it on on other 
>> platforms, you will find it in the language settings of that particular app.
>> 
>> best.
>> 
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone
>> 
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>>> How do I configure it with voiceover? How do I turn on the option for audio 
>>> descriptions and subtitles?
>>>  
>>> Its my first time with Apple tv.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Afik
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Cordialement,
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Re: Apple tv with voiceover

['Annelie Robledo' via VIPhone]

What you could also do.  tell Siri to turn voiceover on you would press the 
second button on the left side

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> On Jun 29, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Francisco Salvador Crespo 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> 
> It is quite simple. After you plug it to a power outlet and to the tv, the 
> device will start. To turn Voiceover on, press the back button three times 
> and it will start speaking. The back button is the first on the left side of 
> the remote, right velow the trackpad.
> To turn audio descriptions, you need to do it from the accessibility 
> settings. This will only affect movies from Apple. to turn it on on other 
> platforms, you will find it in the language settings of that particular app.
> 
> best.
> 
> Enviado desde mi iPhone
> 
>>> El 29 jun. 2020, a las 08:57, Afik Souffir  
>>> escribió:
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>> 
>>  
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I would like to purchase Apple tv. ;
>> How do I configure it with voiceover? How do I turn on the option for audio 
>> descriptions and subtitles?
>>  
>> Its my first time with Apple tv.
>>  
>>  
>> Afik
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Cordialement,
>>  
>> Afik Souffir
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Re: Apple tv with voiceover

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It isn’t the home button, it is the Menu button that you press three times.

From: ליאל בן סימון 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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Hi afick, when you plug your Apple TV to electric outllat the device turns on. 
In order to use the device you must to adjust the correct HDMI connection, you 
need assistentof a sited person to do this. After that press 3 times  on the 
"Home" button it's the first button from the right of the touch surface. Voice 
Over will be turn on. The setting up your Apple TV similar to setting up a new 
iPhone. Just folow the instraction on the screen.  


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  ‫ב-29 ביוני 2020, בשעה 14:57, ‏‏Afik Souffir ‏ 
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  Hi,

   

  I would like to purchase Apple tv. ;

  How do I configure it with voiceover? How do I turn on the option for audio 
descriptions and subtitles?

   

  Its my first time with Apple tv.

   

   

  Afik 

   

   

   

   

  Cordialement,

   

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  afik.souf...@outlook.com

   

   

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Re: Apple tv with voiceover

[Francisco Salvador Crespo]

Ok, thanks for the clarification. The button performs as the back button, and 
the home button to the right of it is the equivalent of the home button on an 
iPhone.
Enviado desde mi iPhone

> El 29 jun. 2020, a las 09:23, MamaPeach  escribió:
> 
> 
> This button is labelled the Menu button on the remote, not the back button.
>  
> From: Francisco Salvador Crespo
> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 8:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple tv with voiceover
>  
> Hello.
>  
> It is quite simple. After you plug it to a power outlet and to the tv, the 
> device will start. To turn Voiceover on, press the back button three times 
> and it will start speaking. The back button is the first on the left side of 
> the remote, right velow the trackpad.
> To turn audio descriptions, you need to do it from the accessibility 
> settings. This will only affect movies from Apple. to turn it on on other 
> platforms, you will find it in the language settings of that particular app.
>  
> best.
> 
> Enviado desde mi iPhone
> 
>> El 29 jun. 2020, a las 08:57, Afik Souffir  
>> escribió:
>> 
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I would like to purchase Apple tv. ;
>> How do I configure it with voiceover? How do I turn on the option for audio 
>> descriptions and subtitles?
>>  
>> Its my first time with Apple tv.
>>  
>>  
>> Afik
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Cordialement,
>>  
>> Afik Souffir
>>  
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Hi afick, when you plug your Apple TV to electric outllat the device turns on. 
In order to use the device you must to adjust the correct HDMI connection, you 
need assistentof a sited person to do this. After that press 3 times  on the 
"Home" button it's the first button from the right of the touch surface. Voice 
Over will be turn on. The setting up your Apple TV similar to setting up a new 
iPhone. Just folow the instraction on the screen.  

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> ‫ב-29 ביוני 2020, בשעה 14:57, ‏‏Afik Souffir ‏ 
> כתב/ה:‬
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> 
>  
>  
> Hi,
>  
> I would like to purchase Apple tv. ;
> How do I configure it with voiceover? How do I turn on the option for audio 
> descriptions and subtitles?
>  
> Its my first time with Apple tv.
>  
>  
> Afik
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Cordialement,
>  
> Afik Souffir
>  
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Re: Apple tv with voiceover

[Jen .]

Hi,
I got an Apple TV recently and I am wondering if there are any games that are 
accessible with voiceover to play.
Jen

On Jun 29, 2020, at 8:23 AM, MamaPeach  wrote:


This button is labelled the Menu button on the remote, not the back button.

From: Francisco Salvador Crespo<mailto:crespofranciscosalva...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 8:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple tv with voiceover

Hello.

It is quite simple. After you plug it to a power outlet and to the tv, the 
device will start. To turn Voiceover on, press the back button three times and 
it will start speaking. The back button is the first on the left side of the 
remote, right velow the trackpad.
To turn audio descriptions, you need to do it from the accessibility settings. 
This will only affect movies from Apple. to turn it on on other platforms, you 
will find it in the language settings of that particular app.

best.

Enviado desde mi iPhone

El 29 jun. 2020, a las 08:57, Afik Souffir  escribió:




Hi,

I would like to purchase Apple tv. ;
How do I configure it with voiceover? How do I turn on the option for audio 
descriptions and subtitles?

Its my first time with Apple tv.


Afik




Cordialement,

Afik Souffir

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Re: Apple tv with voiceover

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This button is labelled the Menu button on the remote, not the back button.

From: Francisco Salvador Crespo 
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Subject: Re: Apple tv with voiceover

Hello. 

It is quite simple. After you plug it to a power outlet and to the tv, the 
device will start. To turn Voiceover on, press the back button three times and 
it will start speaking. The back button is the first on the left side of the 
remote, right velow the trackpad.
To turn audio descriptions, you need to do it from the accessibility settings. 
This will only affect movies from Apple. to turn it on on other platforms, you 
will find it in the language settings of that particular app.

best.


Enviado desde mi iPhone


  El 29 jun. 2020, a las 08:57, Afik Souffir  
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  Hi,

   

  I would like to purchase Apple tv. ;

  How do I configure it with voiceover? How do I turn on the option for audio 
descriptions and subtitles?

   

  Its my first time with Apple tv.

   

   

  Afik 

   

   

   

   

  Cordialement,

   

  Afik Souffir 

   

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Re: Apple tv with voiceover

[Francisco Salvador Crespo]

Hello.

It is quite simple. After you plug it to a power outlet and to the tv, the 
device will start. To turn Voiceover on, press the back button three times and 
it will start speaking. The back button is the first on the left side of the 
remote, right velow the trackpad.
To turn audio descriptions, you need to do it from the accessibility settings. 
This will only affect movies from Apple. to turn it on on other platforms, you 
will find it in the language settings of that particular app.

best.

Enviado desde mi iPhone

> El 29 jun. 2020, a las 08:57, Afik Souffir  
> escribió:
> 
> 
>  
>  
> Hi,
>  
> I would like to purchase Apple tv. ;
> How do I configure it with voiceover? How do I turn on the option for audio 
> descriptions and subtitles?
>  
> Its my first time with Apple tv.
>  
>  
> Afik
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Cordialement,
>  
> Afik Souffir
>  
> Portable: 0505782208
> Addresse email
> afik.souf...@outlook.com
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RE: Apple TV Plus

[Simon A Fogarty]

Have you watched the show called “See” 8 eposodes
Very interesting concept
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RE: Apple TV Plus

[jimfettgather]

For All Mankind is possibly the best drama with the best plot, dialog, and 
audio description that I have ever had the pleasure to watch.

It is amazing and fantastic.

 

 

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I liked The Morninig Show!

 

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RE: Apple TV Plus

[Debbie Downey]

I liked The Morninig Show!

 

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RE: Apple TV Plus

[richring]

Thanks! I appreciate your ideas!

 

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I really enjoyed For All mankind. Also, the documentary shows Dear and Home. 
Also, the reboot of Amazing Stories was quite good in my humble opinion.  

 

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Re: Apple TV Plus

[Michael Feir]

I really enjoyed For All mankind. Also, the documentary shows Dear and
Home. Also, the reboot of Amazing Stories was quite good in my humble
opinion.

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RE: Apple TV Plus

[Sieghard Weitzel]

But unfortunately not Apple Watch, my wife and I spend $1,500 Canadian for 2 
series 5 Apple Watches, but if we bought a $249 Apple TV we'd get the 1 year of 
free Apple TV. I understand that it's supposed to be free with purchase of 
devices which support the TV app, but I think Apple could have given people who 
buy a new Apple watch the deal as well.


-Original Message-
From: 'christopher hallsworth' via VIPhone  
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Let me try and answer this.
Any device, new or old, bought on or after 10 September 2019, will qualify for 
a one year free trial of Apple Tv+. These devices include iPhone, iPad, iPod 
Touch, Mac and Apple Tv.
Hope this helps.


> On 1 Nov 2019, at 14:55, Robin  wrote:
> 
> Just Wonderin:
> Is this 1Year FREE of Apple's  Apple TV+ ONLY For Devices: Like the 
> iPhone11 & iPhone11PRO-iPhone11PRO MAX or Will "The Purchase" of older 
> iPhones Qualify: Like Apple's iPhone8-iPhone8+ & iPhoneXS etc etc At 
> 07:49 AM 11/1/2019, you wrote:
>> If you have purchased a new device this fall, including any 
>> current-ish phone, iPod Touch, Apple TV, or Mac, then you 
>> automatically get the first year free of Apple TV Plus. This was 
>> announced earlier this year. Not sure how this will be reflected in 
>> the payment area, but I'm sure Apple keeps track of newly activated 
>> devices.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>> On 11/1/19, Peter Logan  wrote:
>> > My understanding is after the trial, it would charge whatever you 
>> > have set as your CC for your applied …  like any other subscription 
>> >  ¦
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> > Of Devin Prater
>> > Sent: Friday, November 01, 2019 9:18 AM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: Apple TV Plus
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sorry, I don’t know the answer to that. I don’t think it would.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Nov 1, 2019, at 8:10 AM, Gerardo Corripio > > <mailto:gera1...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > But will it ask you to have funds as backup to participate in the 
>> > 7-day trial? because if so, I wouldn't have funds to covr my iCloud 
>> > subscription!
>> > You see here in Mexico I load money through iTunes cards.
>> >
>> > Gera
>> >
>> > Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > El 1 nov 2019, a la(s) 6:42 a. m., Devin Prater 
>> > mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> > escribió:
>> >
>> > It is available now. To get it, open the TV app, search for an 
>> > Apple TV + show, like “See† or “for all mankind†, and open 
>> > that show’s page. There, choose to try it free for seven days.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Oct 31, 2019, at 11:55 PM, Sieghard Weitzel > > <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > It’s a service like Apple Music and not an app. It’s available 
>> > tomorrow so I assume you will be able to sign up for it through the TV app 
>> > then.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
>> > Behalf Of Andy Baracco
>> > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 9:37 PM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> > Subject: Apple TV Plus
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I am interested in the Apple TV Plus streaming service.  How do I 
>> > get it?  I searched the app store but couldn't find an app by that name.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Andy
>> >
>> >
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Re: Apple TV Plus

[Lynn White]

In order to get a free one year subscription,  you must havebought a new iPhone 
iPad or Apple PTV BOX.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 1, 2019, at 11:27 AM, 'christopher hallsworth' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Let me try and answer this.
> Any device, new or old, bought on or after 10 September 2019, will qualify 
> for a one year free trial of Apple Tv+. These devices include iPhone, iPad, 
> iPod Touch, Mac and Apple Tv.
> Hope this helps.
> 
> 
>>> On 1 Nov 2019, at 14:55, Robin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just Wonderin:
>>> Is this 1Year FREE of Apple's  Apple TV+ ONLY For Devices: Like the 
>>> iPhone11 & iPhone11PRO-iPhone11PRO MAX
>>> or
>>> Will "The Purchase" of older iPhones Qualify: Like Apple's iPhone8-iPhone8+ 
>>> & iPhoneXS etc etc
>>> At 07:49 AM 11/1/2019, you wrote:
>>> If you have purchased a new device this fall, including any
>>> current-ish phone, iPod Touch, Apple TV, or Mac, then you
>>> automatically get the first year free of Apple TV Plus. This was
>>> announced earlier this year. Not sure how this will be reflected in
>>> the payment area, but I'm sure Apple keeps track of newly activated
>>> devices.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
>>> On 11/1/19, Peter Logan  wrote:
>>>> My understanding is after the trial, it would charge whatever you have set
>>>> as your CC for your applied …  like any other subscription  ¦
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Devin
>>>> Prater
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2019 9:18 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Apple TV Plus
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry, I don’t know the answer to that. I don’t think it would.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 1, 2019, at 8:10 AM, Gerardo Corripio >>> <mailto:gera1...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> But will it ask you to have funds as backup to participate in the 7-day
>>>> trial? because if so, I wouldn't have funds to covr my iCloud subscription!
>>>> You see here in Mexico I load money through iTunes cards.
>>>> 
>>>> Gera
>>>> 
>>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> El 1 nov 2019, a la(s) 6:42 a. m., Devin Prater >>> <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> > escribió:
>>>> 
>>>> It is available now. To get it, open the TV app, search for an Apple TV 
>>>> +
>>>> show, like “See† or “for all mankind†, and open that show’s 
>>>> page. There,
>>>> choose to try it free for seven days.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 31, 2019, at 11:55 PM, Sieghard Weitzel >>> <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> It’s a service like Apple Music and not an app. It’s available 
>>>> tomorrow so I
>>>> assume you will be able to sign up for it through the TV app then.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
>>>> Andy Baracco
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 9:37 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Apple TV Plus
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I am interested in the Apple TV Plus streaming service.  How do I get it?  
>>>> I
>>>> searched the app store but couldn't find an app by that name.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Andy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reach

Re: Apple TV Plus

['christopher hallsworth' via VIPhone]

Let me try and answer this.
Any device, new or old, bought on or after 10 September 2019, will qualify for 
a one year free trial of Apple Tv+. These devices include iPhone, iPad, iPod 
Touch, Mac and Apple Tv.
Hope this helps.


> On 1 Nov 2019, at 14:55, Robin  wrote:
> 
> Just Wonderin:
> Is this 1Year FREE of Apple's  Apple TV+ ONLY For Devices: Like the iPhone11 
> & iPhone11PRO-iPhone11PRO MAX
> or
> Will "The Purchase" of older iPhones Qualify: Like Apple's iPhone8-iPhone8+ & 
> iPhoneXS etc etc
> At 07:49 AM 11/1/2019, you wrote:
>> If you have purchased a new device this fall, including any
>> current-ish phone, iPod Touch, Apple TV, or Mac, then you
>> automatically get the first year free of Apple TV Plus. This was
>> announced earlier this year. Not sure how this will be reflected in
>> the payment area, but I'm sure Apple keeps track of newly activated
>> devices.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>> On 11/1/19, Peter Logan  wrote:
>> > My understanding is after the trial, it would charge whatever you have set
>> > as your CC for your applied …  like any other subscription  ¦
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> > Devin
>> > Prater
>> > Sent: Friday, November 01, 2019 9:18 AM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: Apple TV Plus
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sorry, I don’t know the answer to that. I don’t think it would.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Nov 1, 2019, at 8:10 AM, Gerardo Corripio > > <mailto:gera1...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > But will it ask you to have funds as backup to participate in the 7-day
>> > trial? because if so, I wouldn't have funds to covr my iCloud subscription!
>> > You see here in Mexico I load money through iTunes cards.
>> >
>> > Gera
>> >
>> > Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > El 1 nov 2019, a la(s) 6:42 a. m., Devin Prater > > <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> > escribió:
>> >
>> > It is available now. To get it, open the TV app, search for an Apple TV 
>> > +
>> > show, like “See† or “for all mankind†, and open that show’s 
>> > page. There,
>> > choose to try it free for seven days.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Oct 31, 2019, at 11:55 PM, Sieghard Weitzel > > <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > It’s a service like Apple Music and not an app. It’s available 
>> > tomorrow so I
>> > assume you will be able to sign up for it through the TV app then.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
>> > Andy Baracco
>> > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 9:37 PM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> > Subject: Apple TV Plus
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I am interested in the Apple TV Plus streaming service.  How do I get it?  
>> > I
>> > searched the app store but couldn't find an app by that name.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Andy
>> >
>> >
>> >
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