RE: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

[Carolyn Arnold]

I have found that to be the case too. Some have said start from the right side 
of the bottom. I just start from the bottom, usually the middle, but it works. 
I have never missed a Home Button. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 3:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

I would probably rather set up the action button to answer and hang up a phone 
call since the swipe up from the bottom is a very easy and reliable gesture.
If setting  up the action button for phone calls means you can press it also to 
switch to a different call when you are on the phone that would be a very 
useful feature.
It's too bad only on actiojn is possible right now, hopefully in time Apple 
will make it possible to assign multiple actions by pressing once, twice 
quickly or 3 times quickly just as a single, double or triple press of the side 
button do different things.

Lastly, just as an addition to Joshua'sexplanation about the swipe up to go to 
the homescreen, it is actually not necessary to do that swipe in the middle of 
the screen, you can do it on the left, in the middle or on the right, as long 
as you start correctly at the very bottom it will work.

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

Hello Richard and congratulations on your new iPhone 15 Pro.  May it bring you 
many years of accessible joy.

Also, thanks for the info about setting up the Action button to take you to the 
home screen.  That never would have occurred to me.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 6:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

All,

I just  set up my new iPhone Pro yesterday afternoon at the local Apple store.
• Apparently, as others have indicated, the overheating issue seems to have 
been resolved. The phone operates at normal temperature inside the Apple 
silicon case I purchased for the phone.
• One comment: my personal experience of the upgrade from an iPhone  8 to face 
recognition on the 15 Pro is a bit of a challenge. It’s quite different.
• By the way, later in the evening I had great telephone support from the Apple 
accessibility desk. I had a marathon session with one agent. Among other 
things, the agent arranged for one of the left-side activation buttons (the top 
button) to bring up the home screen. He did this by helping me create a 
shortcut and using the activation button to initiate the shortcut. This helps 
me maintain some semblance of long-established patterns of use. Great support 
from Apple.

Best to all,

Richard Petty
mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net




From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:34 PM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on 
iPhone 15 Series

I don't think the regular iPhone 15 and 15 Plus have Titanium frames, but of 
course I could be wrong.
Of course it's also beyond me why if  you have an iPhone 14 Pro Max you would 
buy a 15 Plus which has the exact same chip, it lacks the LiDAR sensor your 14 
Pro Max has and as far as I can tell all you get is an action button to which 
you can map one single function and you have a USB-C port instead of a 
Lightning port.
Of course if you decide you don't want it any more you can send it to me, it is 
starting to get cold up here in Northern British Columbia and this may make a 
nice hand warmer 藍

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:11 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on iPhone 
15 Series

Hello All,

Well, I have been working with a 15 Plus for over a week. I have truly been 
putting it through it proverbial paces and I can tell you that the device heats 
up far faster and far warmer than does my beloved 14 Pro Max.

It's really quite interesting as I understand that the 15 Plus is just a 14 
series inside that titanium case.  Is this true?

Regardless, with only a screen protector installed and using a cheap $10 case I 
purchased at the Apple store, using the device for any uninterrupted length of 
time when performing longer tasks such as performing system restores, lengthy 
GPS navigation, App updates (over 30 or so at a time) the phone really heats 
up.  I'm not saying it is heating to a dangerous level but I am saying that it 
is heating up so much and so fast that I have decided to not purchase a 15 Pro 
Max, this year.

Of course I am comparing the 15 

Re: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

[Joshua Hendrickson]

It will take a bit of time to learn how to use face ID  and also the
new home gesture.  But it is worth it in my opinion.  The biggest
thing for me to learn, was the distance I needed between my face and
the phone.  You don't hold the phone wright up to your face, but maybe
a foot away from your face.  What I do, is have the phone on my lap
with the top of the phone facing away from me and that usually does it
for me.  Good luck, and I hope you like your new phone.

On 10/24/23, Richard  wrote:
> Thanks for the nice message. I'm learning I need to work on making smooth
> transitions. It's a bumpy ride so far. Smile.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 11:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature
>
> Hello Richard and congratulations on your new iPhone 15 Pro.  May it bring
> you many years of accessible joy.
>
> Also, thanks for the info about setting up the Action button to take you to
> the home screen.  That never would have occurred to me.
>
> Mark
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 6:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature
>
> All,
>
> I just  set up my new iPhone Pro yesterday afternoon at the local Apple
> store.
> • Apparently, as others have indicated, the overheating issue seems to have
> been resolved. The phone operates at normal temperature inside the Apple
> silicon case I purchased for the phone.
> • One comment: my personal experience of the upgrade from an iPhone  8 to
> face recognition on the 15 Pro is a bit of a challenge. It’s quite
> different.
> • By the way, later in the evening I had great telephone support from the
> Apple accessibility desk. I had a marathon session with one agent. Among
> other things, the agent arranged for one of the left-side activation buttons
> (the top button) to bring up the home screen. He did this by helping me
> create a shortcut and using the activation button to initiate the shortcut.
> This helps me maintain some semblance of long-established patterns of use.
> Great support from Apple.
>
> Best to all,
>
> Richard Petty
> mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net
>
>
>
>
> From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:34 PM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on
> iPhone 15 Series
>
> I don't think the regular iPhone 15 and 15 Plus have Titanium frames, but of
> course I could be wrong.
> Of course it's also beyond me why if  you have an iPhone 14 Pro Max you
> would buy a 15 Plus which has the exact same chip, it lacks the LiDAR sensor
> your 14 Pro Max has and as far as I can tell all you get is an action button
> to which you can map one single function and you have a USB-C port instead
> of a Lightning port.
> Of course if you decide you don't want it any more you can send it to me, it
> is starting to get cold up here in Northern British Columbia and this may
> make a nice hand warmer 藍
>
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:11 AM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on
> iPhone 15 Series
>
> Hello All,
>
> Well, I have been working with a 15 Plus for over a week. I have truly been
> putting it through it proverbial paces and I can tell you that the device
> heats up far faster and far warmer than does my beloved 14 Pro Max.
>
> It's really quite interesting as I understand that the 15 Plus is just a 14
> series inside that titanium case.  Is this true?
>
> Regardless, with only a screen protector installed and using a cheap $10
> case I purchased at the Apple store, using the device for any uninterrupted
> length of time when performing longer tasks such as performing system
> restores, lengthy GPS navigation, App updates (over 30 or so at a time) the
> phone really heats up.  I'm not saying it is heating to a dangerous level
> but I am saying that it is heating up so much and so fast that I have
> decided to not purchase a 15 Pro Max, this year.
>
> Of course I am comparing the 15 Plus with my beloved 14 Pro Max with the
> same level of screen brightness.
>
> Okay, just thought I would pass this along.
>
> Keep in mind, this is just my experience:  Your milage may vary.
>
> I hope you are all doing well.
>
> Mark
>
>
> --
> The following information i

RE: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

[Richard]

Thanks for the nice message. I'm learning I need to work on making smooth 
transitions. It's a bumpy ride so far. Smile.

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 11:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

Hello Richard and congratulations on your new iPhone 15 Pro.  May it bring you 
many years of accessible joy.

Also, thanks for the info about setting up the Action button to take you to the 
home screen.  That never would have occurred to me.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 6:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

All,

I just  set up my new iPhone Pro yesterday afternoon at the local Apple store.
• Apparently, as others have indicated, the overheating issue seems to have 
been resolved. The phone operates at normal temperature inside the Apple 
silicon case I purchased for the phone.
• One comment: my personal experience of the upgrade from an iPhone  8 to face 
recognition on the 15 Pro is a bit of a challenge. It’s quite different.
• By the way, later in the evening I had great telephone support from the Apple 
accessibility desk. I had a marathon session with one agent. Among other 
things, the agent arranged for one of the left-side activation buttons (the top 
button) to bring up the home screen. He did this by helping me create a 
shortcut and using the activation button to initiate the shortcut. This helps 
me maintain some semblance of long-established patterns of use. Great support 
from Apple.

Best to all,

Richard Petty
mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net




From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:34 PM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on 
iPhone 15 Series

I don't think the regular iPhone 15 and 15 Plus have Titanium frames, but of 
course I could be wrong.
Of course it's also beyond me why if  you have an iPhone 14 Pro Max you would 
buy a 15 Plus which has the exact same chip, it lacks the LiDAR sensor your 14 
Pro Max has and as far as I can tell all you get is an action button to which 
you can map one single function and you have a USB-C port instead of a 
Lightning port.
Of course if you decide you don't want it any more you can send it to me, it is 
starting to get cold up here in Northern British Columbia and this may make a 
nice hand warmer 藍

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:11 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on iPhone 
15 Series

Hello All,

Well, I have been working with a 15 Plus for over a week. I have truly been 
putting it through it proverbial paces and I can tell you that the device heats 
up far faster and far warmer than does my beloved 14 Pro Max.

It's really quite interesting as I understand that the 15 Plus is just a 14 
series inside that titanium case.  Is this true?

Regardless, with only a screen protector installed and using a cheap $10 case I 
purchased at the Apple store, using the device for any uninterrupted length of 
time when performing longer tasks such as performing system restores, lengthy 
GPS navigation, App updates (over 30 or so at a time) the phone really heats 
up.  I'm not saying it is heating to a dangerous level but I am saying that it 
is heating up so much and so fast that I have decided to not purchase a 15 Pro 
Max, this year.

Of course I am comparing the 15 Plus with my beloved 14 Pro Max with the same 
level of screen brightness.

Okay, just thought I would pass this along.

Keep in mind, this is just my experience:  Your milage may vary.

I hope you are all doing well.

Mark


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RE: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

[Richard]

I have yet to gain much accuracy with the gesture. Wasted time. I'll take the 
alternative.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 1:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

Learn the swipe up from the bottom of the screen to access the home
screen.  It is easier.  If I had known how easy face ID is, I never
would have gotten an iPhone 8 as my first phone.  When doing the swipe
up from the bottom of the screen, I use the lightning port on my 13
pro max as a guide.  With the 15 phones, use your USBC port to center
your swipe up gesture.

On 10/23/23, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello Richard and congratulations on your new iPhone 15 Pro.  May it bring
> you many years of accessible joy.
>
> Also, thanks for the info about setting up the Action button to take you to
> the home screen.  That never would have occurred to me.
>
> Mark
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 6:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature
>
> All,
>
> I just  set up my new iPhone Pro yesterday afternoon at the local Apple
> store.
> • Apparently, as others have indicated, the overheating issue seems to have
> been resolved. The phone operates at normal temperature inside the Apple
> silicon case I purchased for the phone.
> • One comment: my personal experience of the upgrade from an iPhone  8 to
> face recognition on the 15 Pro is a bit of a challenge. It’s quite
> different.
> • By the way, later in the evening I had great telephone support from the
> Apple accessibility desk. I had a marathon session with one agent. Among
> other things, the agent arranged for one of the left-side activation buttons
> (the top button) to bring up the home screen. He did this by helping me
> create a shortcut and using the activation button to initiate the shortcut.
> This helps me maintain some semblance of long-established patterns of use.
> Great support from Apple.
>
> Best to all,
>
> Richard Petty
> mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net
>
>
>
>
> From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:34 PM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on
> iPhone 15 Series
>
> I don't think the regular iPhone 15 and 15 Plus have Titanium frames, but of
> course I could be wrong.
> Of course it's also beyond me why if  you have an iPhone 14 Pro Max you
> would buy a 15 Plus which has the exact same chip, it lacks the LiDAR sensor
> your 14 Pro Max has and as far as I can tell all you get is an action button
> to which you can map one single function and you have a USB-C port instead
> of a Lightning port.
> Of course if you decide you don't want it any more you can send it to me, it
> is starting to get cold up here in Northern British Columbia and this may
> make a nice hand warmer 藍
>
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:11 AM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on
> iPhone 15 Series
>
> Hello All,
>
> Well, I have been working with a 15 Plus for over a week. I have truly been
> putting it through it proverbial paces and I can tell you that the device
> heats up far faster and far warmer than does my beloved 14 Pro Max.
>
> It's really quite interesting as I understand that the 15 Plus is just a 14
> series inside that titanium case.  Is this true?
>
> Regardless, with only a screen protector installed and using a cheap $10
> case I purchased at the Apple store, using the device for any uninterrupted
> length of time when performing longer tasks such as performing system
> restores, lengthy GPS navigation, App updates (over 30 or so at a time) the
> phone really heats up.  I'm not saying it is heating to a dangerous level
> but I am saying that it is heating up so much and so fast that I have
> decided to not purchase a 15 Pro Max, this year.
>
> Of course I am comparing the 15 Plus with my beloved 14 Pro Max with the
> same level of screen brightness.
>
> Okay, just thought I would pass this along.
>
> Keep in mind, this is just my experience:  Your milage may vary.
>
> I hope you are all doing well.
>
> Mark
>
>
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> list.
>
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RE: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I would probably rather set up the action button to answer and hang up a phone 
call since the swipe up from the bottom is a very easy and reliable gesture.
If setting  up the action button for phone calls means you can press it also to 
switch to a different call when you are on the phone that would be a very 
useful feature.
It's too bad only on actiojn is possible right now, hopefully in time Apple 
will make it possible to assign multiple actions by pressing once, twice 
quickly or 3 times quickly just as a single, double or triple press of the side 
button do different things.

Lastly, just as an addition to Joshua'sexplanation about the swipe up to go to 
the homescreen, it is actually not necessary to do that swipe in the middle of 
the screen, you can do it on the left, in the middle or on the right, as long 
as you start correctly at the very bottom it will work.

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

Hello Richard and congratulations on your new iPhone 15 Pro.  May it bring you 
many years of accessible joy.

Also, thanks for the info about setting up the Action button to take you to the 
home screen.  That never would have occurred to me.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 6:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

All,

I just  set up my new iPhone Pro yesterday afternoon at the local Apple store.
• Apparently, as others have indicated, the overheating issue seems to have 
been resolved. The phone operates at normal temperature inside the Apple 
silicon case I purchased for the phone.
• One comment: my personal experience of the upgrade from an iPhone  8 to face 
recognition on the 15 Pro is a bit of a challenge. It’s quite different.
• By the way, later in the evening I had great telephone support from the Apple 
accessibility desk. I had a marathon session with one agent. Among other 
things, the agent arranged for one of the left-side activation buttons (the top 
button) to bring up the home screen. He did this by helping me create a 
shortcut and using the activation button to initiate the shortcut. This helps 
me maintain some semblance of long-established patterns of use. Great support 
from Apple.

Best to all,

Richard Petty
mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net




From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:34 PM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on 
iPhone 15 Series

I don't think the regular iPhone 15 and 15 Plus have Titanium frames, but of 
course I could be wrong.
Of course it's also beyond me why if  you have an iPhone 14 Pro Max you would 
buy a 15 Plus which has the exact same chip, it lacks the LiDAR sensor your 14 
Pro Max has and as far as I can tell all you get is an action button to which 
you can map one single function and you have a USB-C port instead of a 
Lightning port.
Of course if you decide you don't want it any more you can send it to me, it is 
starting to get cold up here in Northern British Columbia and this may make a 
nice hand warmer 藍

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:11 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on iPhone 
15 Series

Hello All,

Well, I have been working with a 15 Plus for over a week. I have truly been 
putting it through it proverbial paces and I can tell you that the device heats 
up far faster and far warmer than does my beloved 14 Pro Max.

It's really quite interesting as I understand that the 15 Plus is just a 14 
series inside that titanium case.  Is this true?

Regardless, with only a screen protector installed and using a cheap $10 case I 
purchased at the Apple store, using the device for any uninterrupted length of 
time when performing longer tasks such as performing system restores, lengthy 
GPS navigation, App updates (over 30 or so at a time) the phone really heats 
up.  I'm not saying it is heating to a dangerous level but I am saying that it 
is heating up so much and so fast that I have decided to not purchase a 15 Pro 
Max, this year.

Of course I am comparing the 15 Plus with my beloved 14 Pro Max with the same 
level of screen brightness.

Okay, just thought I would pass this along.

Keep in mind, this is just my experience:  Your milage may vary.

I hope you are all doing well.

Mark


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RE: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

[Carolyn Arnold]

You are so right, Joshua. I agree totally. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 2:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

Learn the swipe up from the bottom of the screen to access the home screen.  It 
is easier.  If I had known how easy face ID is, I never would have gotten an 
iPhone 8 as my first phone.  When doing the swipe up from the bottom of the 
screen, I use the lightning port on my 13 pro max as a guide.  With the 15 
phones, use your USBC port to center your swipe up gesture.

On 10/23/23, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello Richard and congratulations on your new iPhone 15 Pro.  May it 
> bring you many years of accessible joy.
>
> Also, thanks for the info about setting up the Action button to take 
> you to the home screen.  That never would have occurred to me.
>
> Mark
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 6:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature
>
> All,
>
> I just  set up my new iPhone Pro yesterday afternoon at the local 
> Apple store.
> • Apparently, as others have indicated, the overheating issue seems to 
> have been resolved. The phone operates at normal temperature inside 
> the Apple silicon case I purchased for the phone.
> • One comment: my personal experience of the upgrade from an iPhone  8 
> to face recognition on the 15 Pro is a bit of a challenge. It’s quite 
> different.
> • By the way, later in the evening I had great telephone support from 
> the Apple accessibility desk. I had a marathon session with one agent. 
> Among other things, the agent arranged for one of the left-side 
> activation buttons (the top button) to bring up the home screen. He 
> did this by helping me create a shortcut and using the activation button to 
> initiate the shortcut.
> This helps me maintain some semblance of long-established patterns of use.
> Great support from Apple.
>
> Best to all,
>
> Richard Petty
> mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net
>
>
>
>
> From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:34 PM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a 
> Pass on iPhone 15 Series
>
> I don't think the regular iPhone 15 and 15 Plus have Titanium frames, 
> but of course I could be wrong.
> Of course it's also beyond me why if  you have an iPhone 14 Pro Max 
> you would buy a 15 Plus which has the exact same chip, it lacks the 
> LiDAR sensor your 14 Pro Max has and as far as I can tell all you get 
> is an action button to which you can map one single function and you 
> have a USB-C port instead of a Lightning port.
> Of course if you decide you don't want it any more you can send it to 
> me, it is starting to get cold up here in Northern British Columbia 
> and this may make a nice hand warmer 藍
>
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:11 AM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass 
> on iPhone 15 Series
>
> Hello All,
>
> Well, I have been working with a 15 Plus for over a week. I have truly 
> been putting it through it proverbial paces and I can tell you that 
> the device heats up far faster and far warmer than does my beloved 14 Pro Max.
>
> It's really quite interesting as I understand that the 15 Plus is just 
> a 14 series inside that titanium case.  Is this true?
>
> Regardless, with only a screen protector installed and using a cheap 
> $10 case I purchased at the Apple store, using the device for any 
> uninterrupted length of time when performing longer tasks such as 
> performing system restores, lengthy GPS navigation, App updates (over 
> 30 or so at a time) the phone really heats up.  I'm not saying it is 
> heating to a dangerous level but I am saying that it is heating up so 
> much and so fast that I have decided to not purchase a 15 Pro Max, this year.
>
> Of course I am comparing the 15 Plus with my beloved 14 Pro Max with 
> the same level of screen brightness.
>
> Okay, just thought I would pass this along.
>
> Keep in mind, this is just my experience:  Your milage may vary.
>
> I hope you are all doing well.
>
> Mark
>
>
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RE: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

I personally use the assistive touch button for another way to jump to the home 
screen along with the app switcher and control center. I’m most likely going to 
upgrade from my XR to a 15 Pro/Pro Max, but will keep the assistive touch 
button for the same purposes and probably use the action button for something 
else.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

Hello Richard and congratulations on your new iPhone 15 Pro.  May it bring you 
many years of accessible joy.

Also, thanks for the info about setting up the Action button to take you to the 
home screen.  That never would have occurred to me.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 6:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

All,

I just  set up my new iPhone Pro yesterday afternoon at the local Apple store.
• Apparently, as others have indicated, the overheating issue seems to have 
been resolved. The phone operates at normal temperature inside the Apple 
silicon case I purchased for the phone.
• One comment: my personal experience of the upgrade from an iPhone  8 to face 
recognition on the 15 Pro is a bit of a challenge. It’s quite different.
• By the way, later in the evening I had great telephone support from the Apple 
accessibility desk. I had a marathon session with one agent. Among other 
things, the agent arranged for one of the left-side activation buttons (the top 
button) to bring up the home screen. He did this by helping me create a 
shortcut and using the activation button to initiate the shortcut. This helps 
me maintain some semblance of long-established patterns of use. Great support 
from Apple.

Best to all,

Richard Petty
mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net




From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:34 PM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on 
iPhone 15 Series

I don't think the regular iPhone 15 and 15 Plus have Titanium frames, but of 
course I could be wrong.
Of course it's also beyond me why if  you have an iPhone 14 Pro Max you would 
buy a 15 Plus which has the exact same chip, it lacks the LiDAR sensor your 14 
Pro Max has and as far as I can tell all you get is an action button to which 
you can map one single function and you have a USB-C port instead of a 
Lightning port.
Of course if you decide you don't want it any more you can send it to me, it is 
starting to get cold up here in Northern British Columbia and this may make a 
nice hand warmer 藍

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:11 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on iPhone 
15 Series

Hello All,

Well, I have been working with a 15 Plus for over a week. I have truly been 
putting it through it proverbial paces and I can tell you that the device heats 
up far faster and far warmer than does my beloved 14 Pro Max.

It's really quite interesting as I understand that the 15 Plus is just a 14 
series inside that titanium case.  Is this true?

Regardless, with only a screen protector installed and using a cheap $10 case I 
purchased at the Apple store, using the device for any uninterrupted length of 
time when performing longer tasks such as performing system restores, lengthy 
GPS navigation, App updates (over 30 or so at a time) the phone really heats 
up.  I'm not saying it is heating to a dangerous level but I am saying that it 
is heating up so much and so fast that I have decided to not purchase a 15 Pro 
Max, this year.

Of course I am comparing the 15 Plus with my beloved 14 Pro Max with the same 
level of screen brightness.

Okay, just thought I would pass this along.

Keep in mind, this is just my experience:  Your milage may vary.

I hope you are all doing well.

Mark


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Re: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Learn the swipe up from the bottom of the screen to access the home
screen.  It is easier.  If I had known how easy face ID is, I never
would have gotten an iPhone 8 as my first phone.  When doing the swipe
up from the bottom of the screen, I use the lightning port on my 13
pro max as a guide.  With the 15 phones, use your USBC port to center
your swipe up gesture.

On 10/23/23, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello Richard and congratulations on your new iPhone 15 Pro.  May it bring
> you many years of accessible joy.
>
> Also, thanks for the info about setting up the Action button to take you to
> the home screen.  That never would have occurred to me.
>
> Mark
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 6:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature
>
> All,
>
> I just  set up my new iPhone Pro yesterday afternoon at the local Apple
> store.
> • Apparently, as others have indicated, the overheating issue seems to have
> been resolved. The phone operates at normal temperature inside the Apple
> silicon case I purchased for the phone.
> • One comment: my personal experience of the upgrade from an iPhone  8 to
> face recognition on the 15 Pro is a bit of a challenge. It’s quite
> different.
> • By the way, later in the evening I had great telephone support from the
> Apple accessibility desk. I had a marathon session with one agent. Among
> other things, the agent arranged for one of the left-side activation buttons
> (the top button) to bring up the home screen. He did this by helping me
> create a shortcut and using the activation button to initiate the shortcut.
> This helps me maintain some semblance of long-established patterns of use.
> Great support from Apple.
>
> Best to all,
>
> Richard Petty
> mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net
>
>
>
>
> From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  On
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:34 PM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on
> iPhone 15 Series
>
> I don't think the regular iPhone 15 and 15 Plus have Titanium frames, but of
> course I could be wrong.
> Of course it's also beyond me why if  you have an iPhone 14 Pro Max you
> would buy a 15 Plus which has the exact same chip, it lacks the LiDAR sensor
> your 14 Pro Max has and as far as I can tell all you get is an action button
> to which you can map one single function and you have a USB-C port instead
> of a Lightning port.
> Of course if you decide you don't want it any more you can send it to me, it
> is starting to get cold up here in Northern British Columbia and this may
> make a nice hand warmer 藍
>
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:11 AM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on
> iPhone 15 Series
>
> Hello All,
>
> Well, I have been working with a 15 Plus for over a week. I have truly been
> putting it through it proverbial paces and I can tell you that the device
> heats up far faster and far warmer than does my beloved 14 Pro Max.
>
> It's really quite interesting as I understand that the 15 Plus is just a 14
> series inside that titanium case.  Is this true?
>
> Regardless, with only a screen protector installed and using a cheap $10
> case I purchased at the Apple store, using the device for any uninterrupted
> length of time when performing longer tasks such as performing system
> restores, lengthy GPS navigation, App updates (over 30 or so at a time) the
> phone really heats up.  I'm not saying it is heating to a dangerous level
> but I am saying that it is heating up so much and so fast that I have
> decided to not purchase a 15 Pro Max, this year.
>
> Of course I am comparing the 15 Plus with my beloved 14 Pro Max with the
> same level of screen brightness.
>
> Okay, just thought I would pass this along.
>
> Keep in mind, this is just my experience:  Your milage may vary.
>
> I hope you are all doing well.
>
> Mark
>
>
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RE: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

[M. Taylor]

Hello Richard and congratulations on your new iPhone 15 Pro.  May it bring you 
many years of accessible joy.

Also, thanks for the info about setting up the Action button to take you to the 
home screen.  That never would have occurred to me.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 6:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

All,

I just  set up my new iPhone Pro yesterday afternoon at the local Apple store.
• Apparently, as others have indicated, the overheating issue seems to have 
been resolved. The phone operates at normal temperature inside the Apple 
silicon case I purchased for the phone.
• One comment: my personal experience of the upgrade from an iPhone  8 to face 
recognition on the 15 Pro is a bit of a challenge. It’s quite different.
• By the way, later in the evening I had great telephone support from the Apple 
accessibility desk. I had a marathon session with one agent. Among other 
things, the agent arranged for one of the left-side activation buttons (the top 
button) to bring up the home screen. He did this by helping me create a 
shortcut and using the activation button to initiate the shortcut. This helps 
me maintain some semblance of long-established patterns of use. Great support 
from Apple.

Best to all,

Richard Petty
mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net




From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:34 PM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on 
iPhone 15 Series

I don't think the regular iPhone 15 and 15 Plus have Titanium frames, but of 
course I could be wrong.
Of course it's also beyond me why if  you have an iPhone 14 Pro Max you would 
buy a 15 Plus which has the exact same chip, it lacks the LiDAR sensor your 14 
Pro Max has and as far as I can tell all you get is an action button to which 
you can map one single function and you have a USB-C port instead of a 
Lightning port.
Of course if you decide you don't want it any more you can send it to me, it is 
starting to get cold up here in Northern British Columbia and this may make a 
nice hand warmer 藍

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:11 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on iPhone 
15 Series

Hello All,

Well, I have been working with a 15 Plus for over a week. I have truly been 
putting it through it proverbial paces and I can tell you that the device heats 
up far faster and far warmer than does my beloved 14 Pro Max.

It's really quite interesting as I understand that the 15 Plus is just a 14 
series inside that titanium case.  Is this true?

Regardless, with only a screen protector installed and using a cheap $10 case I 
purchased at the Apple store, using the device for any uninterrupted length of 
time when performing longer tasks such as performing system restores, lengthy 
GPS navigation, App updates (over 30 or so at a time) the phone really heats 
up.  I'm not saying it is heating to a dangerous level but I am saying that it 
is heating up so much and so fast that I have decided to not purchase a 15 Pro 
Max, this year.

Of course I am comparing the 15 Plus with my beloved 14 Pro Max with the same 
level of screen brightness.

Okay, just thought I would pass this along.

Keep in mind, this is just my experience:  Your milage may vary.

I hope you are all doing well.

Mark


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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Esther Levegnale]

oops I meant facial ID. Sorry about that. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Mar 12, 2022, at 1:35 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> When I get a new iPhone, I won't use face ID, but my passcode.
> 
>> On 3/11/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> I’m glad!
>> We are all here to help each other.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>> 
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello Alan, and every one else,
>>> Yes, the attention switch is off.
>>> The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have been
>>> able to open the iPhone in the dark!
>>> Thanks to every one for their advice,
>>> 
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>> 
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>> 
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck,
>>>> 
>>>> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to
>>>> require attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This should
>>>> have been off by default if you initially set up your iPhone 13 Mini with
>>>> Voiceover running. I haven’t heard that this setting affects face ID
>>>> recognition in the dark but it certainly makes face ID much easier for
>>>> the visually impaired.
>>>> 
>>>> Alan Lemly
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Chuck Dean
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>> 
>>>> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at
>>>> least three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I need
>>>> to rescan my face
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck;
>>>> 
>>>> That is absolutely not true.
>>>> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>>>> 
>>>> Anthony
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>>>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when
>>>> it’s dark in the room.
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>>>> 
>>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
>>>> mine.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Alan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Chuck
>>>> Dean
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>>> 
>>>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running
>>>> perfectly!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>> 
>>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>> 
>>>

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Esther Levegnale]

hey, Joshua, I don't know if I responded to your message, but I also use my ID 
to open my phone. I do not use facial recognition. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Mar 12, 2022, at 1:35 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> When I get a new iPhone, I won't use face ID, but my passcode.
> 
>> On 3/11/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> I’m glad!
>> We are all here to help each other.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>> 
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello Alan, and every one else,
>>> Yes, the attention switch is off.
>>> The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have been
>>> able to open the iPhone in the dark!
>>> Thanks to every one for their advice,
>>> 
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>> 
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>> 
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck,
>>>> 
>>>> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to
>>>> require attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This should
>>>> have been off by default if you initially set up your iPhone 13 Mini with
>>>> Voiceover running. I haven’t heard that this setting affects face ID
>>>> recognition in the dark but it certainly makes face ID much easier for
>>>> the visually impaired.
>>>> 
>>>> Alan Lemly
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Chuck Dean
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>> 
>>>> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at
>>>> least three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I need
>>>> to rescan my face
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck;
>>>> 
>>>> That is absolutely not true.
>>>> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>>>> 
>>>> Anthony
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>>>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when
>>>> it’s dark in the room.
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>>>> 
>>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
>>>> mine.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Alan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Chuck
>>>> Dean
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>>> 
>>>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running
>>>> perfectly!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>> 
>>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>&g

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I am not sure why Joshua seems to set against using Face Id which makes it so 
easy to unlock the pho ne. That would be the same as me saying that I decided 
to upgrade from my iPhone 11 to the newly released iPhone SE and to say that I 
won't use Touch Id. Joshua, I can safely say that you will get tired very 
quickly to type in a PIN each time you want to unlock your phone. I always feel 
that way when I have to unlock my iPhone 11 with the PIN when I am wearing a 
face mask. Usually I have my Apple Watch on my wrist and I set u p my iPhone to 
use my Apple Watch for authentication so it is not so bad, but my wife and I 
are currently in the Philippines and we decided not to bring our watches 
because walking around with those on the wrist here may not always be the 
safest thing and I'm always annoyed when I want to unlock the phone and it 
doesn't work, then I remember that I don't have my watch. Back home in British 
Columbia we now don't have to wear masks any more in most situations other than 
flying and so on, but here in the Philippines you have to wear a mask more or 
less everywhere even in public outdoor settings and of course people here do it 
because the government is not as wimpy about enforcing it as they are back 
home. And before somebody who didn't pay attention recommends that I can now 
set up for my phone to unlock with a mask on if I installed the 15.4 update 
which I did yesterday, that only works if you have an iPhone 12 or above so 
with my 11 and my wife's 11 Pro apparently the hardware is not able to support 
this.
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: March 12, 2022 12:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

You should give face id a chance.  Don't knock it before you try it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 1:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

When I get a new iPhone, I won't use face ID, but my passcode.

On 3/11/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> I’m glad!
> We are all here to help each other.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hello Alan, and every one else,
>> Yes, the attention switch is off.
>> The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have 
>> been able to open the iPhone in the dark!
>> Thanks to every one for their advice,
>>
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to 
>>> require attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This 
>>> should have been off by default if you initially set up your iPhone
>>> 13 Mini with Voiceover running. I haven’t heard that this setting 
>>> affects face ID recognition in the dark but it certainly makes face 
>>> ID much easier for the visually impaired.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at 
>>> least three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I 
>>> need to rescan my face
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck;
>>>
>>> That is absolutely not true.
>>> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>>>
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work 
>>> when it’s dark in the room.
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Joshua Hendrickson]

You can also use your Alexa to help find your iPhone as well.  If I
don't know where my iPhone is, I just say Elexa find my phone.  Then,
she will call  my iPhone, and I can hear my phone ring and locate it.

On 3/12/22, Paula Jordan  wrote:
> When I tried it I had blue tooth turned on in my hearing aids for phone
> calls. The beeping sound came from my phone, not in my ears. I’ll continue
> to play with it. I do tend to forget where I laid my phone, so I’ll have
> plenty of chances to see if this is really true.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Carolyn
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 6:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>
> Paula, I did not have Bluetooth turned on in my hearing aids at the time I
> mislocated my phone. I don't know how I would have gotten direction, had I
> had that turned on.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Paula Jordan
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 3:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>
> That is awesome.  I haven't been able to call my iphone from another phone
> in order to find it since the phone is connected to my hearing aids, so it
> just rings into my ears.  This is a great solution.  Thanks.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Carolyn
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 11:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>
> Speaking of Hay Siri, the other day I asked on Hay Siri, where is my phone.
> It took a minute or so, but then the phone started making a sound, so I
> could find it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Alan Lemly
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>
> You can also go into Settings, Siri and search and turn on Listen for hey
> Siri so you can invoke her by voice. The switch to turn on the side button
> to invoke her is also on this setting screen.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS
> 
>
> From: dudleym via VIPhone 
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 4:31:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>
> Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini myself but am confused as how to
> invoke siri. I think I read somewhere that the power button can be used, but
> I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.
>
> Martin
>
>
> Chuck Dean recently said:-
>
>>Thank you to all who have helped.
>>I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>>
>>Chuck  (mobile)
>>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>><http://www.cadean.com/>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>
>><http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>
>>>On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
>>>Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was
>>>dimmed. If he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he
>>>got it. I do not have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the
>>>phone, but was so uncertain about the message.
>>>I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>>Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>>
>>>Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>>
>>>
>>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> on behalf of Carolyn
>>><4carol...@windstream.net>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>>If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
>>>years, totall

RE: new iphone SE 3rd generation

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Mitch,

 

No LIDAR on the iPhone 13 Mini. Just the Pro models of the 12 and 13 series has 
it.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 4:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iphone SE 3rd generation

 

Is it on the 13 mini? From mich

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 12, 2022, at 5:02 PM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:



As Richard said under a different subject, no LIDAR on the SE third generation. 
I thought it was only available on the iPhone 13 Pro models but Richard says 
it’s also available on the 12 Pro models.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 1:53 PM
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Subject: new iphone SE 3rd generation

 

Hello. Does the new iphone SE support Lidr.

 

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RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Paula Jordan]

When I tried it I had blue tooth turned on in my hearing aids for phone calls. 
The beeping sound came from my phone, not in my ears. I’ll continue to play 
with it. I do tend to forget where I laid my phone, so I’ll have plenty of 
chances to see if this is really true.
God bless!
Paula and the pups


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Paula, I did not have Bluetooth turned on in my hearing aids at the time I 
mislocated my phone. I don't know how I would have gotten direction, had I had 
that turned on. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paula Jordan
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 3:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

That is awesome.  I haven't been able to call my iphone from another phone in 
order to find it since the phone is connected to my hearing aids, so it just 
rings into my ears.  This is a great solution.  Thanks.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Speaking of Hay Siri, the other day I asked on Hay Siri, where is my phone. It 
took a minute or so, but then the phone started making a sound, so I could find 
it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

You can also go into Settings, Siri and search and turn on Listen for hey Siri 
so you can invoke her by voice. The switch to turn on the side button to invoke 
her is also on this setting screen. 

Alan Lemly 


Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS 


From: dudleym via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 4:31:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button. 
 
Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini myself but am confused as how to 
invoke siri. I think I read somewhere that the power button can be used, but 
I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.

Martin


Chuck Dean recently said:-

>Thank you to all who have helped.
>I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>
>Chuck  (mobile)
>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
><http://www.cadean.com/>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>
><http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>Our 1961 Vespa 400
>
>>On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an 
>>Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was 
>>dimmed. If he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he 
>>got it. I do not have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the 
>>phone, but was so uncertain about the message.
>>I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>
>>Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 
>>____________
>>
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> on behalf of Carolyn 
>><4carol...@windstream.net>
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my 
>>years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Hi Chuck,
>>
>>I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch 
>>ID is not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used 
>>phones with both types of biometric identification, face ID works much 
>>better than touch ID.
>>Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working 
>>well on i

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Carolyn]

Paula, I did not have Bluetooth turned on in my hearing aids at the time I 
mislocated my phone. I don't know how I would have gotten direction, had I had 
that turned on. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paula Jordan
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 3:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

That is awesome.  I haven't been able to call my iphone from another phone in 
order to find it since the phone is connected to my hearing aids, so it just 
rings into my ears.  This is a great solution.  Thanks.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Speaking of Hay Siri, the other day I asked on Hay Siri, where is my phone. It 
took a minute or so, but then the phone started making a sound, so I could find 
it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

You can also go into Settings, Siri and search and turn on Listen for hey Siri 
so you can invoke her by voice. The switch to turn on the side button to invoke 
her is also on this setting screen. 

Alan Lemly 


Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS 


From: dudleym via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 4:31:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button. 
 
Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini myself but am confused as how to 
invoke siri. I think I read somewhere that the power button can be used, but 
I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.

Martin


Chuck Dean recently said:-

>Thank you to all who have helped.
>I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>
>Chuck  (mobile)
>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
><http://www.cadean.com/>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>
><http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>Our 1961 Vespa 400
>
>>On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an 
>>Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was 
>>dimmed. If he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he 
>>got it. I do not have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the 
>>phone, but was so uncertain about the message.
>>I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>
>>Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 
>>____________
>>
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> on behalf of Carolyn 
>><4carol...@windstream.net>
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my 
>>years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Hi Chuck,
>>
>>I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch 
>>ID is not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used 
>>phones with both types of biometric identification, face ID works much 
>>better than touch ID.
>>Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working 
>>well on it.
>>
>>Alan Lemly
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a 
>> newer iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place 
>> for scanning the fingerprint?
>>I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but 

RE: new iphone SE 3rd generation

[Alan Lemly]

Thanks for that confirmation, Alex.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 4:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iphone SE 3rd generation

 

Yes, my 12 pro max has LiDAR.

 

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Alan 
Lemly 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:02:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: new iphone SE 3rd generation 

 

As Richard said under a different subject, no LIDAR on the SE third generation. 
I thought it was only available on the iPhone 13 Pro models but Richard says 
it’s also available on the 12 Pro models.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: new iphone SE 3rd generation

 

Hello. Does the new iphone SE support Lidr.

 

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Re: new iphone SE 3rd generation

[Mich Verrier]

Is it on the 13 mini? From mich

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2022, at 5:02 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> As Richard said under a different subject, no LIDAR on the SE third 
> generation. I thought it was only available on the iPhone 13 Pro models but 
> Richard says it’s also available on the 12 Pro models.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> llump...@austin.rr.com
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 1:53 PM
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Re: new iphone SE 3rd generation

[Alex Stone]

Yes, my 12 pro max has LiDAR.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Alan 
Lemly 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:02:23 PM
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Subject: RE: new iphone SE 3rd generation


As Richard said under a different subject, no LIDAR on the SE third generation. 
I thought it was only available on the iPhone 13 Pro models but Richard says 
it’s also available on the 12 Pro models.



Alan Lemly



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Hello. Does the new iphone SE support Lidr.



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RE: new iphone SE 3rd generation

[Alan Lemly]

As Richard said under a different subject, no LIDAR on the SE third generation. 
I thought it was only available on the iPhone 13 Pro models but Richard says 
it’s also available on the 12 Pro models.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Hello. Does the new iphone SE support Lidr.

 

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Re: new iphone SE 3rd generation

[Richard Turner]

No, it doesn't.



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> On Mar 12, 2022, at 1:14 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> 
> I don’t believe it does support LiDAR. I have not seen that feature 
> referenced anywhere with regard to this new phone. I would like to be wrong 
> of course.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> Hello. Does the new iphone SE support Lidr.
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Re: new iphone SE 3rd generation

[Mary Otten]

I don’t believe it does support LiDAR. I have not seen that feature referenced 
anywhere with regard to this new phone. I would like to be wrong of course.


Sent from my iPhone

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RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Paula Jordan]

That is awesome.  I haven't been able to call my iphone from another phone in 
order to find it since the phone is connected to my hearing aids, so it just 
rings into my ears.  This is a great solution.  Thanks.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Speaking of Hay Siri, the other day I asked on Hay Siri, where is my phone. It 
took a minute or so, but then the phone started making a sound, so I could find 
it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

You can also go into Settings, Siri and search and turn on Listen for hey Siri 
so you can invoke her by voice. The switch to turn on the side button to invoke 
her is also on this setting screen. 

Alan Lemly 


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From: dudleym via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 4:31:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button. 
 
Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini myself but am confused as how to 
invoke siri. I think I read somewhere that the power button can be used, but 
I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.

Martin


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>Thank you to all who have helped.
>I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>
>Chuck  (mobile)
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>
><http://www.cadean.com/>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>
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>
>>On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an 
>>Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was 
>>dimmed. If he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he 
>>got it. I do not have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the 
>>phone, but was so uncertain about the message.
>>I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>
>>Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 
>>____________
>>
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> on behalf of Carolyn 
>><4carol...@windstream.net>
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my 
>>years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Hi Chuck,
>>
>>I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch 
>>ID is not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used 
>>phones with both types of biometric identification, face ID works much 
>>better than touch ID.
>>Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working 
>>well on it.
>>
>>Alan Lemly
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a 
>> newer iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place 
>> for scanning the fingerprint?
>>I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer 
>> to use a fingerprint, if possible.
>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Chuck  (mobile)
>>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>>
>>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/>
>>
>>
>>Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>
>>
>>
>>
>>   

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[ליאל בן סימון]

Yes, it's easey. You need to press and hold the power button.

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> ‫ב-12 במרץ 2022, בשעה 12:45, ‏‏dudleym via VIPhone 
> ‏ כתב/ה:‬
> 
> Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini myself but am confused as how to 
> invoke siri. I think I read somewhere that the power button can be used, but 
> I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
> Chuck Dean recently said:-
> 
>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>> 
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>> 
>> <http://www.cadean.com/>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>> 
>> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>Our 1961 Vespa 400
>> 
>>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an 
>>> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If 
>>> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not 
>>> have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so 
>>> uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes 
>>> to another iPhone?
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Alex Stone
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>> 
>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
>>> Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my 
>>> years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Alan Lemly
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> Hi Chuck,
>>> 
>>> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is 
>>> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with 
>>> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than 
>>> touch ID.
>>> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well 
>>> on it.
>>> 
>>> Alan Lemly
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>   On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   
>>>   New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>   Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer 
>>> iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for 
>>> scanning the fingerprint?
>>>   I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use 
>>> a fingerprint, if possible.
>>>   Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Chuck  (mobile)
>>>   Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Chuck Dean]

Cool Beans! 

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

Our 1961 Vespa 400

> On Mar 12, 2022, at 9:33 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Speaking of Hay Siri, the other day I asked on Hay Siri, where is my phone. 
> It took a minute or so, but then the phone started making a sound, so I could 
> find it. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
> 
> You can also go into Settings, Siri and search and turn on Listen for hey 
> Siri so you can invoke her by voice. The switch to turn on the side button to 
> invoke her is also on this setting screen. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS 
> 
> 
> From: dudleym via VIPhone 
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 4:31:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button. 
> 
> Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini myself but am confused as how to 
> invoke siri. I think I read somewhere that the power button can be used, but 
> I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
> Chuck Dean recently said:-
> 
>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>> 
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>> 
>> <http://www.cadean.com/>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>> 
>> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>Our 1961 Vespa 400
>> 
>>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an 
>>> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was 
>>> dimmed. If he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he 
>>> got it. I do not have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the 
>>> phone, but was so uncertain about the message.
>>> I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>> 
>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>  on behalf of Carolyn 
>>> <4carol...@windstream.net>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my 
>>> years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> Hi Chuck,
>>> 
>>> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch 
>>> ID is not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used 
>>> phones with both types of biometric identification, face ID works much 
>>> better than touch ID.
>>> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working 
>>> well on it.
>>> 
>>> Alan Lemly
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>   On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   
>>>   New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>   Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a 
>>> newer iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place 
>>> for scanning the fingerprint?
>>>   I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer 
>>> to use a fingerprint, if possible.
>>>   Thanks,
>>> 
>&

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Carolyn]

And, you have to use passcodes at times like after updates. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

And there's no reason you can't use both. Set up face ID and whenever it 
doesn't work, you can always enter your pass code.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

I really think that too. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 3:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

You should give face id a chance.  Don't knock it before you try it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 1:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

When I get a new iPhone, I won't use face ID, but my passcode.

On 3/11/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> I’m glad!
> We are all here to help each other.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hello Alan, and every one else,
>> Yes, the attention switch is off.
>> The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have 
>> been able to open the iPhone in the dark!
>> Thanks to every one for their advice,
>>
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to 
>>> require attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This 
>>> should have been off by default if you initially set up your iPhone
>>> 13 Mini with Voiceover running. I haven’t heard that this setting 
>>> affects face ID recognition in the dark but it certainly makes face 
>>> ID much easier for the visually impaired.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at 
>>> least three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I 
>>> need to rescan my face
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck;
>>>
>>> That is absolutely not true.
>>> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>>>
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work 
>>> when it’s dark in the room.
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>>>
>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve 
>>> enjoyed mine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Carolyn]

Speaking of Hay Siri, the other day I asked on Hay Siri, where is my phone. It 
took a minute or so, but then the phone started making a sound, so I could find 
it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

You can also go into Settings, Siri and search and turn on Listen for hey Siri 
so you can invoke her by voice. The switch to turn on the side button to invoke 
her is also on this setting screen. 

Alan Lemly 


Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS 


From: dudleym via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 4:31:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button. 
 
Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini myself but am confused as how to 
invoke siri. I think I read somewhere that the power button can be used, but 
I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.

Martin


Chuck Dean recently said:-

>Thank you to all who have helped.
>I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>
>Chuck  (mobile)
>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
><http://www.cadean.com/>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>
><http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>Our 1961 Vespa 400
>
>>On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an 
>>Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was 
>>dimmed. If he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he 
>>got it. I do not have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the 
>>phone, but was so uncertain about the message.
>>I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>
>>Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 
>>____________
>>
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> on behalf of Carolyn 
>><4carol...@windstream.net>
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my 
>>years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Hi Chuck,
>>
>>I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch 
>>ID is not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used 
>>phones with both types of biometric identification, face ID works much 
>>better than touch ID.
>>Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working 
>>well on it.
>>
>>Alan Lemly
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a 
>> newer iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place 
>> for scanning the fingerprint?
>>I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer 
>> to use a fingerprint, if possible.
>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Chuck  (mobile)
>>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>>
>>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/>
>>
>>
>>Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>The following information is important for all members of the 
>> V iPhone list.
>>
>>If you have any questions or concerns about the running of 
>> this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, 
>> please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting 
>> on the list itself.
>>
>>Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylo

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Christopher Chaltain]

And there's no reason you can't use both. Set up face ID and whenever it 
doesn't work, you can always enter your pass code.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

I really think that too. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 3:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

You should give face id a chance.  Don't knock it before you try it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 1:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

When I get a new iPhone, I won't use face ID, but my passcode.

On 3/11/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> I’m glad!
> We are all here to help each other.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hello Alan, and every one else,
>> Yes, the attention switch is off.
>> The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have 
>> been able to open the iPhone in the dark!
>> Thanks to every one for their advice,
>>
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to 
>>> require attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This 
>>> should have been off by default if you initially set up your iPhone
>>> 13 Mini with Voiceover running. I haven’t heard that this setting 
>>> affects face ID recognition in the dark but it certainly makes face 
>>> ID much easier for the visually impaired.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at 
>>> least three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I 
>>> need to rescan my face
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck;
>>>
>>> That is absolutely not true.
>>> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>>>
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work 
>>> when it’s dark in the room.
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>>>
>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve 
>>> enjoyed mine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>>
>>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running 
>>> perfectly!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>&g

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Alan Lemly]

You can also go into Settings, Siri and search and turn on Listen for hey Siri 
so you can invoke her by voice. The switch to turn on the side button to invoke 
her is also on this setting screen.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS

From: dudleym via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 4:31:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini
myself but am confused as how to invoke siri. I
think I read somewhere that the power button can
be used, but I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.

Martin


Chuck Dean recently said:-

>Thank you to all who have helped.
>I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>
>Chuck  (mobile)
>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
><http://www.cadean.com/>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>
><http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>Our 1961 Vespa 400
>
>>On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to
>>my pastor, who has an Android phone. I never
>>saw where it was delivered, and Sent was
>>dimmed. If he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd
>>have not bee sure he got it. I do not have an
>>attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the
>>phone, but was so uncertain about the message.
>>I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>
>>Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ____________
>>
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> on behalf of Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net>
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>If I can set up facial ID, I think most people
>>can. I am well up in my years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Hi Chuck,
>>
>>I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on
>>your new iPhone. Touch ID is not available on
>>iPhone swithout home buttons and having used
>>phones with both types of biometric
>>identification, face ID works much better than touch ID.
>>Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope
>>FlickType Classic is working well on it.
>>
>>Alan Lemly
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>Hello everyone, I am wondering about
>> using apple pay on a newer iPhone without a
>> tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the fingerprint?
>>I understand these iPhone's have face
>> recognition but I prefer to use a fingerprint, if possible.
>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Chuck  (mobile)
>>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>>
>>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/>
>>
>>
>>Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>The following information is important
>> for all members of the V iPhone list.
>>
>>If you have any questions or concerns
>> about the running of this list, or if you feel
>> that a member's post is inappropriate, please
>> contact the owners or moderators directly
>> rather than posting on the list itself.
>>
>>Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark
>> Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn
>> - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>
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RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Carolyn]

I really think that too. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 3:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

You should give face id a chance.  Don't knock it before you try it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 1:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

When I get a new iPhone, I won't use face ID, but my passcode.

On 3/11/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> I’m glad!
> We are all here to help each other.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hello Alan, and every one else,
>> Yes, the attention switch is off.
>> The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have 
>> been able to open the iPhone in the dark!
>> Thanks to every one for their advice,
>>
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to 
>>> require attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This 
>>> should have been off by default if you initially set up your iPhone
>>> 13 Mini with Voiceover running. I haven’t heard that this setting 
>>> affects face ID recognition in the dark but it certainly makes face 
>>> ID much easier for the visually impaired.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at 
>>> least three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I 
>>> need to rescan my face
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck;
>>>
>>> That is absolutely not true.
>>> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>>>
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work 
>>> when it’s dark in the room.
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>>>
>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve 
>>> enjoyed mine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>>
>>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running 
>>> perfectly!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Car

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[chrisjudge1967]

Hi. Yes, hold the side button to speak to siri.

Chris Judge


-Original Message-
From: dudleym via VIPhone  
Sent: March 12, 2022 6:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini myself but am confused as how to 
invoke siri. I think I read somewhere that the power button can be used, but 
I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.

Martin


Chuck Dean recently said:-

>Thank you to all who have helped.
>I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>
>Chuck  (mobile)
>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
><http://www.cadean.com/>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>
><http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>Our 1961 Vespa 400
>
>>On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an 
>>Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was 
>>dimmed. If he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he 
>>got it. I do not have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the 
>>phone, but was so uncertain about the message.
>>I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>
>>Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 
>>________
>>
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> on behalf of Carolyn 
>><4carol...@windstream.net>
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my 
>>years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Hi Chuck,
>>
>>I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch 
>>ID is not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used 
>>phones with both types of biometric identification, face ID works much 
>>better than touch ID.
>>Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working 
>>well on it.
>>
>>Alan Lemly
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a 
>> newer iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place 
>> for scanning the fingerprint?
>>I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer 
>> to use a fingerprint, if possible.
>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Chuck  (mobile)
>>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>>
>>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/>
>>
>>
>>Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Trea Abma]

Hi,

I’ve used my iPhone 11 for two years now, but  yesterday I bought the new SE. 
Face ID works for  me, but I like Touch ID better.

Trea 

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

> Op 12 mrt. 2022 om 07:35 heeft Joshua Hendrickson  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> When I get a new iPhone, I won't use face ID, but my passcode.
> 
> On 3/11/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> I’m glad!
>> We are all here to help each other.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Alan, and every one else,
>>> Yes, the attention switch is off.
>>> The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have been
>>> able to open the iPhone in the dark!
>>> Thanks to every one for their advice,
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck,
>>>> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to
>>>> require attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This should
>>>> have been off by default if you initially set up your iPhone 13 Mini with
>>>> Voiceover running. I haven’t heard that this setting affects face ID
>>>> recognition in the dark but it certainly makes face ID much easier for
>>>> the visually impaired.
>>>> Alan Lemly
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Chuck Dean
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at
>>>> least three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I need
>>>> to rescan my face
>>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>>> Chuck;
>>>> That is absolutely not true.
>>>> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>>>> Anthony
>>>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>>>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when
>>>> it’s dark in the room.
>>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>> Chuck,
>>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
>>>> mine.
>>>> Alan
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Chuck
>>>> Dean
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running
>>>> perfectly!
>>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>> <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
>>>> <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
>>>> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed.
>>>> If
>>>> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do
>>>> not
>>>> have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
>>>> uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes
>>>> to
>>>> another iPhone?
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> [mailto:vipho

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[dudleym via VIPhone]

Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini 
myself but am confused as how to invoke siri. I 
think I read somewhere that the power button can 
be used, but I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.


Martin


Chuck Dean recently said:-


Thank you to all who have helped.
I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

<http://www.cadean.com/>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

<http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>Our 1961 Vespa 400


On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

Thanks.

Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to 
my pastor, who has an Android phone. I never 
saw where it was delivered, and Sent was 
dimmed. If he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd 
have not bee sure he got it. I do not have an 
attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the 
phone, but was so uncertain about the message. 
I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 on behalf of Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net>

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

If I can set up facial ID, I think most people 
can. I am well up in my years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Hi Chuck,

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on 
your new iPhone. Touch ID is not available on 
iPhone swithout home buttons and having used 
phones with both types of biometric 
identification, face ID works much better than touch ID.
Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope 
FlickType Classic is working well on it.


Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone


   On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:



   
   New iPhone without tactile home button.
   Hello everyone, I am wondering about 
using apple pay on a newer iPhone without a 
tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the fingerprint?
   I understand these iPhone's have face 
recognition but I prefer to use a fingerprint, if possible.

   Thanks,


   Chuck  (mobile)
   Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


   Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/>


   Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>



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RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Dennis Long]

I agree.  I have also used it in a totally dark room.  It worked just fine.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

Chuck;

 

That is absolutely not true.

I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.

 

Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!





On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean mailto:cadean...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hello,

No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.

I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
dark in the room.

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.





 <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe





 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400





On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay mailto:mohibra...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?

On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Chuck,

 

 

 

That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed

mine.

 

 

 

Alan

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Chuck

Dean

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 

Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

 

 

Thank you to all who have helped.

 

I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!

 

 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

 

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 

 

 

 

 

<http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

 

 

 

 

 

<http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400

 

 

 

 

 

On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net

<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:

 

Thanks.

 

Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an

Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If

he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not

have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so

uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to

another iPhone?

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.

 

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>



 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%20%3cmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of

Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net  
<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net%20%3cmailto:4carol...@windstream.net> 
<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> >

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%20%3cmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >

Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my

years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

Hi Chuck,

 

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is

not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with

both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch

ID.

Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well

on it.

 

Alan Lemly

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

 

  On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean mailto:cadean...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

 

 

  

  New iPhone without tactile home button.

  Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer

iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning

the fingerprint?

  I understand these iPhone's have fac

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Dennis Long]

You should give face id a chance.  Don't knock it before you try it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 1:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

When I get a new iPhone, I won't use face ID, but my passcode.

On 3/11/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> I’m glad!
> We are all here to help each other.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hello Alan, and every one else,
>> Yes, the attention switch is off.
>> The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have 
>> been able to open the iPhone in the dark!
>> Thanks to every one for their advice,
>>
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to 
>>> require attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This 
>>> should have been off by default if you initially set up your iPhone 
>>> 13 Mini with Voiceover running. I haven’t heard that this setting 
>>> affects face ID recognition in the dark but it certainly makes face 
>>> ID much easier for the visually impaired.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at 
>>> least three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I 
>>> need to rescan my face
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck;
>>>
>>> That is absolutely not true.
>>> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>>>
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work 
>>> when it’s dark in the room.
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>>>
>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve 
>>> enjoyed mine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>>
>>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running 
>>> perfectly!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
>>> <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has 
>>> an Android phone. I never saw w

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Joshua Hendrickson]

When I get a new iPhone, I won't use face ID, but my passcode.

On 3/11/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> I’m glad!
> We are all here to help each other.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hello Alan, and every one else,
>> Yes, the attention switch is off.
>> The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have been
>> able to open the iPhone in the dark!
>> Thanks to every one for their advice,
>>
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to
>>> require attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This should
>>> have been off by default if you initially set up your iPhone 13 Mini with
>>> Voiceover running. I haven’t heard that this setting affects face ID
>>> recognition in the dark but it certainly makes face ID much easier for
>>> the visually impaired.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at
>>> least three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I need
>>> to rescan my face
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck;
>>>
>>> That is absolutely not true.
>>> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>>>
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when
>>> it’s dark in the room.
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>>>
>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
>>> mine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Chuck
>>> Dean
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>>
>>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running
>>> perfectly!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
>>> <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
>>> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed.
>>> If
>>> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do
>>> not
>>> have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
>>> uncertain about the message. I guess it onl

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Anthony Vece]

I’m glad!
We are all here to help each other.

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Alan, and every one else, 
> Yes, the attention switch is off. 
> The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have been 
> able to open the iPhone in the dark! 
> Thanks to every one for their advice, 
> 
> Chuck  (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
> 
> Our 1961 Vespa 400
> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Chuck,
>>  
>> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to require 
>> attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This should have been 
>> off by default if you initially set up your iPhone 13 Mini with Voiceover 
>> running. I haven’t heard that this setting affects face ID recognition in 
>> the dark but it certainly makes face ID much easier for the visually 
>> impaired.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck 
>> Dean
>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>  
>> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at least 
>> three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I need to 
>> rescan my face
>> 
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>> 
>> 
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>> 
>> 
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> 
>> Chuck;
>>  
>> That is absolutely not true.
>> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>>  
>> Anthony
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
>> dark in the room.
>>  
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>> 
>> 
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>> 
>> 
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
>> 
>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>> 
>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> Chuck,
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
>> mine.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Alan
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck
>> Dean
>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>  
>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>  
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
>> <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
>>  
>> Thanks.
>>  
>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
>> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If
>> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
>> have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
>> uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to
>> another iPhone?
>>  
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>  
>> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>  
>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>> ___

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Chuck Dean]

Hello Alan, and every one else, 
Yes, the attention switch is off. 
The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have been able 
to open the iPhone in the dark! 
Thanks to every one for their advice, 

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

Our 1961 Vespa 400

> On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Chuck,
>  
> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to require 
> attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This should have been 
> off by default if you initially set up your iPhone 13 Mini with Voiceover 
> running. I haven’t heard that this setting affects face ID recognition in the 
> dark but it certainly makes face ID much easier for the visually impaired.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck 
> Dean
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>  
> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at least 
> three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I need to rescan 
> my face
> 
> Chuck  (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
> 
> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
> 
> 
> Our 1961 Vespa 400
> 
> 
> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Chuck;
>  
> That is absolutely not true.
> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>  
> Anthony
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
> 
> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
> dark in the room.
>  
> Chuck  (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
> 
> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
> 
> 
> Our 1961 Vespa 400
> 
> 
> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
> 
> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
> 
> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Chuck,
>  
>  
>  
> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
> mine.
>  
>  
>  
> Alan
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck
> Dean
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>  
>  
>  
> Thank you to all who have helped.
>  
> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>  
>  
>  
> Chuck  (mobile)
>  
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
> <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If
> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
> have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
> uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to
> another iPhone?
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>  
> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>  
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of
> Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> >
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>  
> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
> years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
&g

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Alan Lemly]

Chuck,

 

Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to require 
attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This should have been off 
by default if you initially set up your iPhone 13 Mini with Voiceover running. 
I haven’t heard that this setting affects face ID recognition in the dark but 
it certainly makes face ID much easier for the visually impaired.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck 
Dean
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at least 
three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I need to rescan 
my face

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.





 <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe





 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400





On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece mailto:ajv...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Chuck;

 

That is absolutely not true.

I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.

 

Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!





On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean mailto:cadean...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hello,

No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.

I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
dark in the room.

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.





 <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe





 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400





On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay mailto:mohibra...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?

On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Chuck,

 

 

 

That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed

mine.

 

 

 

Alan

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Chuck

Dean

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 

Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

 

 

Thank you to all who have helped.

 

I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!

 

 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

 

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 

 

 

 

 

<http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

 

 

 

 

 

<http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400

 

 

 

 

 

On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net

<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:

 

Thanks.

 

Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an

Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If

he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not

have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so

uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to

another iPhone?

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.

 

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>



 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%20%3cmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of

Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net  
<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net%20%3cmailto:4carol...@windstream.net> 
<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> >

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%20%3cmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >

Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my

years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: New iPhon

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Carolyn]

Sieghard, if I leave an app open, when I turn my phone back on, I'm there, like 
Weather or Phone. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 12:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Hi Chuck,

 

You might want to ask somebody who knows how to use Face Id to help you for a 
bit until you get the hang of it.

Here is what I do:

1.  I wake up my phone by tapping the screen, but if you have tap to wake 
turned off which some people prefer then just press the side button
2.  I touch near the bottom of the screen in the middle until I hear the 
little two-tone and then as I look at the phone I swipe up
3.  Face Id recognizes my face and I am instantly placed on the home screen

 

I am actually trying to remember how I can unlock my phone with Face Id and not 
be put on the home screen, but so far I haven’t found a way to do this. Where 
exactly do you end up after Face Id recognizes your phone and unlocks it?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck 
Dean
Sent: March 11, 2022 8:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

I guess I'll have to keep trying. 

Another thing that bothers me is when I would open my iPhone 8 with touch ID 
the iPhone would go directly to the home screen. 

With my iPhone 13 once it recognise my face I have to slide up from the bottom 
to go to the home screen. 

Is there any way to go directly to the home screen? 

Thanks, 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.





Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/> 





Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> 





On Mar 11, 2022, at 9:09 AM, Alex Stone mailto:alexston...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

 Chuck, I know this isn’t what you want to hear, but it works for me 
in the dark too.

Sent from my iPhone





On 11 Mar 2022, at 3:12 pm, Chuck Dean mailto:cadean...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello,

No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.

I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not 
work when it’s dark in the room.

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.





Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/> 





Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> 





On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
mailto:mohibra...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?

On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Chuck,

 

 

 

That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini 
as much as I’ve enjoyed

mine.

 

 

 

Alan

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Chuck

Dean

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 

Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home 
button.

 

 

 

Thank you to all who have helped.

 

I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it 
is up and running perfectly!

 

 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

 

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 

 

 

 

 

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Carolyn]

With your iPhone 8, you already pushed the button for the Home Screen, when you 
entered your fingerprint; that is not the case with your face. It is so natural 
now for me to slide my finger that I went to my phone to check to see if it was 
necessary, and it seems that it must be. I never think about it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chuck Dean
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 11:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

I guess I'll have to keep trying. 
Another thing that bothers me is when I would open my iPhone 8 with touch ID 
the iPhone would go directly to the home screen. 
With my iPhone 13 once it recognise my face I have to slide up from the bottom 
to go to the home screen. 
Is there any way to go directly to the home screen? 
Thanks, 

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/> 


Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> 


On Mar 11, 2022, at 9:09 AM, Alex Stone  wrote:



 
Chuck, I know this isn’t what you want to hear, but it works for me in 
the dark too.


Sent from my iPhone


On 11 Mar 2022, at 3:12 pm, Chuck Dean  
wrote:



 
Hello,
No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not 
work when it’s dark in the room.

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/> 


Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> 


On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
 wrote:



Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?

On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:


Chuck,











That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini 
as much as I’ve enjoyed


mine.











Alan











From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Chuck


Dean


Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM


To: viphone@googlegroups.com


            Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home 
button.











Thank you to all who have helped.





I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it 
is up and running perfectly!











Chuck  (mobile)





Pleez x cuze enny tie

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Carolyn]

Oh man. Mine is an 11, and so far, works in the dark. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Laury, Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

I have a 12 and I am having issues with this when its dark 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Anthony 
Vece 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:46:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button. 
 

CAUTION: This is an External email. Please send suspicious emails to 
ab...@michigan.gov



Chuck; 

That is absolutely not true.
I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.

Anthony


Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!


On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:



 
Hello,
No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when 
it’s dark in the room.

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe 
<https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cadean.com%2F=04%7C01%7CLauryS%40michigan.gov%7C9935d506c2284288dd5508da03765196%7Cd5fb7087377742ad966a892ef47225d1%7C0%7C0%7C637826104879756799%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=2%2BYi6wolBqc83kxBIPWsI%2F6XcujeEfxE2G40%2B1qvzdk%3D=0>
 


Our 1961 Vespa 400 
<https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcadean.com%2FVespa.html=04%7C01%7CLauryS%40michigan.gov%7C9935d506c2284288dd5508da03765196%7Cd5fb7087377742ad966a892ef47225d1%7C0%7C0%7C637826104879756799%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=SEUXCYEK718l7xqwUZ9TPyLT1vNJGEiSlp0LgArRXb8%3D=0>
 


On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
 wrote:



Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?

On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:


Chuck,











That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much 
as I’ve enjoyed


mine.











Alan











From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Chuck


Dean


Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM


To: viphone@googlegroups.com


    Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.











Thank you to all who have helped.





I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and 
running perfectly!











Chuck  (mobile)





Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

















<http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

















<http://cadean.com/Vespa.htm

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Carolyn]

Mine works in a dark room in the middle of the night. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chuck Dean
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Hello,
No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
dark in the room.

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/> 


Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> 


On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  
wrote:



Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?

On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:


Chuck,











That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve 
enjoyed


mine.











Alan











From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Chuck


Dean


Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM


To: viphone@googlegroups.com


    Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.











Thank you to all who have helped.





I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running 
perfectly!











Chuck  (mobile)





Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

















<http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

















<http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400

















On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net


<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:





Thanks.





Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who 
has an


Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was 
dimmed. If


he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got 
it. I do not


have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, 
but was so


uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, 
when it goes to


another iPhone?





-Original Message-


From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>


[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone


Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM


To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
        

Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.





Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might 
think.





Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>








From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>


mailto:viphone@googlegroups.co

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Chuck Dean]

Hello,
I have no problems getting into the phone, when it’s daylight, it just seems 
like at night it doesn’t work, and I have to enter the passcode every time.
When I tap on my screen, or hit the side button, I hear a sound kind of like 
the sound of the screen opening, and it goes to my lock screen, then I need to 
slide up from the bottom until I hear two tones, and then it unlocks the home 
screen.
I suppose this is no worse than just pressing the home button, but it takes two 
hands for me to do this, with a home button I could use one. 

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

Our 1961 Vespa 400

> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Chuck,
>  
> You might want to ask somebody who knows how to use Face Id to help you for a 
> bit until you get the hang of it.
> Here is what I do:
> I wake up my phone by tapping the screen, but if you have tap to wake turned 
> off which some people prefer then just press the side button
> I touch near the bottom of the screen in the middle until I hear the little 
> two-tone and then as I look at the phone I swipe up
> Face Id recognizes my face and I am instantly placed on the home screen
>  
> I am actually trying to remember how I can unlock my phone with Face Id and 
> not be put on the home screen, but so far I haven’t found a way to do this. 
> Where exactly do you end up after Face Id recognizes your phone and unlocks 
> it?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck 
> Dean
> Sent: March 11, 2022 8:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>  
> I guess I'll have to keep trying. 
> Another thing that bothers me is when I would open my iPhone 8 with touch ID 
> the iPhone would go directly to the home screen. 
> With my iPhone 13 once it recognise my face I have to slide up from the 
> bottom to go to the home screen. 
> Is there any way to go directly to the home screen? 
> Thanks, 
>  
> Chuck  (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
> 
> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
> 
> 
> Our 1961 Vespa 400
> 
> 
> On Mar 11, 2022, at 9:09 AM, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
>  Chuck, I know this isn’t what you want to hear, but it works for me in the 
> dark too.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On 11 Mar 2022, at 3:12 pm, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
> dark in the room.
>  
> Chuck  (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
> 
> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
> 
> 
> Our 1961 Vespa 400
> 
> 
> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
> 
> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
> 
> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Chuck,
>  
>  
>  
> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
> mine.
>  
>  
>  
> Alan
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck
> Dean
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>  
>  
>  
> Thank you to all who have helped.
>  
> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>  
>  
>  
> Chuck  (mobile)
>  
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
> <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If
> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
> have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
> uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to
> another iPhone?
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>  
> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>  
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> ___

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Chuck,

You might want to ask somebody who knows how to use Face Id to help you for a 
bit until you get the hang of it.
Here is what I do:

  1.  I wake up my phone by tapping the screen, but if you have tap to wake 
turned off which some people prefer then just press the side button
  2.  I touch near the bottom of the screen in the middle until I hear the 
little two-tone and then as I look at the phone I swipe up
  3.  Face Id recognizes my face and I am instantly placed on the home screen

I am actually trying to remember how I can unlock my phone with Face Id and not 
be put on the home screen, but so far I haven’t found a way to do this. Where 
exactly do you end up after Face Id recognizes your phone and unlocks it?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck 
Dean
Sent: March 11, 2022 8:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

I guess I'll have to keep trying.
Another thing that bothers me is when I would open my iPhone 8 with touch ID 
the iPhone would go directly to the home screen.
With my iPhone 13 once it recognise my face I have to slide up from the bottom 
to go to the home screen.
Is there any way to go directly to the home screen?
Thanks,

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe<http://www.cadean.com/>


Our 1961 Vespa 400<http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>


On Mar 11, 2022, at 9:09 AM, Alex Stone 
mailto:alexston...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
 Chuck, I know this isn’t what you want to hear, but it works for me in the 
dark too.
Sent from my iPhone


On 11 Mar 2022, at 3:12 pm, Chuck Dean 
mailto:cadean...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello,
No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
dark in the room.

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe<http://www.cadean.com/>


Our 1961 Vespa 400<http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>


On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
mailto:mohibra...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?

On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Chuck,



That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
mine.



Alan



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Chuck
Dean
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.



Thank you to all who have helped.

I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!



Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.





<http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe





<http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400





On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:

Thanks.

Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If
he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to
another iPhone?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%20%3cmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 > on behalf of
Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net%20%3cmailto:4carol...@windstream.net>>
 >
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%20%3cmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 >
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphon

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Anthony is correct, if your Face Id is set up correctly and works well then it 
can be absolutely and utterly pitch black without even a shred of any light, 
e.g. you could be in a cave 100 feet underground with no artificial light and 
it would work. To set up Face Id normal light maybe not a bad idea although it 
is not necessary to do it outdoors and with sunlight as some suggest.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: March 11, 2022 7:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Chuck;

That is absolutely not true.
I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.

Anthony
Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!


On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:

Hello,
No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
dark in the room.

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe<http://www.cadean.com/>


Our 1961 Vespa 400<http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>


On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?

On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:

Chuck,



That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
mine.



Alan



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck
Dean
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.



Thank you to all who have helped.

I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!



Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.





<http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe





<http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400





On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:

Thanks.

Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If
he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to
another iPhone?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>


From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of
Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> >
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Hi Chuck,

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is
not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with
both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch
ID.
Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well
on it.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone


  On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean mailto:cadean...@gmail.com> > wrote:



  
  New iPhone without tactile home button.
  Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer
iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning
the fingerprint?
  I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use
a fingerprint, if possible.
  Thanks,


  Chuck  (mobile)
  Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


  Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/>


  Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>



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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Chuck Dean]

I guess I'll have to keep trying. 
Another thing that bothers me is when I would open my iPhone 8 with touch ID 
the iPhone would go directly to the home screen. 
With my iPhone 13 once it recognise my face I have to slide up from the bottom 
to go to the home screen. 
Is there any way to go directly to the home screen? 
Thanks, 

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

Our 1961 Vespa 400

> On Mar 11, 2022, at 9:09 AM, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
>  Chuck, I know this isn’t what you want to hear, but it works for me in the 
> dark too.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On 11 Mar 2022, at 3:12 pm, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
>> dark in the room.
>> 
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>> 
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>> 
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>>> 
>>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>> Chuck,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
>>>> mine.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Alan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Chuck
>>>> Dean
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>>> 
>>>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>> 
>>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
>>>> <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
>>>> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If
>>>> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
>>>> have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
>>>> uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes 
>>>> to
>>>> another iPhone?
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>> 
>>>> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>>> 
>>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of
>>>> Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> >
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
>>>> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>> 
>>>> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
>>>> years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Alex Stone]

Chuck, I know this isn’t what you want to hear, but it works for me in the dark 
too.

Sent from my iPhone

On 11 Mar 2022, at 3:12 pm, Chuck Dean  wrote:


Hello,
No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
dark in the room.

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe<http://www.cadean.com/>

Our 1961 Vespa 400<http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>

On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:

Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?

On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
Chuck,



That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
mine.



Alan



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck
Dean
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.



Thank you to all who have helped.

I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!



Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.





<http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe





<http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400





On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:

Thanks.

Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If
he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to
another iPhone?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>


From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of
Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> >
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Hi Chuck,

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is
not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with
both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch
ID.
Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well
on it.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone


  On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean mailto:cadean...@gmail.com> > wrote:



  
  New iPhone without tactile home button.
  Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer
iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning
the fingerprint?
  I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use
a fingerprint, if possible.
  Thanks,


  Chuck  (mobile)
  Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


  Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/>


  Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>



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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Laury, Shawnese (LEO)]

I have a 12 and I am having issues with this when its dark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Anthony 
Vece 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:46:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.


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Chuck;

That is absolutely not true.
I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.

Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:


Hello,
No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
dark in the room.

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 
Coupe<https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cadean.com%2F=04%7C01%7CLauryS%40michigan.gov%7C9935d506c2284288dd5508da03765196%7Cd5fb7087377742ad966a892ef47225d1%7C0%7C0%7C637826104879756799%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=2%2BYi6wolBqc83kxBIPWsI%2F6XcujeEfxE2G40%2B1qvzdk%3D=0>

Our 1961 Vespa 
400<https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcadean.com%2FVespa.html=04%7C01%7CLauryS%40michigan.gov%7C9935d506c2284288dd5508da03765196%7Cd5fb7087377742ad966a892ef47225d1%7C0%7C0%7C637826104879756799%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=SEUXCYEK718l7xqwUZ9TPyLT1vNJGEiSlp0LgArRXb8%3D=0>

On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:

Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?

On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
Chuck,



That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
mine.



Alan



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck
Dean
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.



Thank you to all who have helped.

I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!



Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.





<http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe





<http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400





On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:

Thanks.

Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If
he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to
another iPhone?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>


From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of
Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> >
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Hi Chuck,

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is
not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with
both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch
ID.
Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well
on it.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone


  On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean mailto:cadean...@gmail.com> > wrote:



  
  New iPhone without tactile home button.
  Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer
iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning
the fingerprint?
  I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use
a fingerprint, if possible.
  Thanks,


  Chuck  (mobile)
  Pleez x cuze enny t

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Chuck Dean]

Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at least 
three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I need to rescan 
my face

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

Our 1961 Vespa 400

> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Chuck;
> 
> That is absolutely not true.
> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
> 
> Anthony
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
>> dark in the room.
>> 
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>> 
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>> 
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>> 
>>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>>> 
>>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>> Chuck,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
>>>> mine.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Alan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Chuck
>>>> Dean
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>>> 
>>>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>> 
>>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
>>>> <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
>>>> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If
>>>> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
>>>> have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
>>>> uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes 
>>>> to
>>>> another iPhone?
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>> 
>>>> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>>> 
>>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of
>>>> Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> >
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
>>>> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>> 
>>>> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
>>>> years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>&g

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Anthony Vece]

Chuck;

That is absolutely not true.
I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.

Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
> dark in the room.
> 
> Chuck  (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
> 
> Our 1961 Vespa 400
> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>> 
>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> Chuck,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
>>> mine.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck
>>> Dean
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>> 
>>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> 
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
>>> <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
>>> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If
>>> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
>>> have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
>>> uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to
>>> another iPhone?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>> 
>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of
>>> Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> >
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
>>> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
>>> years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> Hi Chuck,
>>> 
>>> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is
>>> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with
>>> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch
>>> ID.
>>> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well
>>> on it.
>>> 
>>> Alan Lemly
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean >> <mailto:cadean...@gmail.com> > wr

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Chuck Dean]

Hello,
No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
dark in the room.

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

Our 1961 Vespa 400

> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
> 
> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
> 
>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> Chuck,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
>> mine.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck
>> Dean
>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>> 
>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> 
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
>> <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
>> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If
>> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
>> have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
>> uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to
>> another iPhone?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>> 
>> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>> 
>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of
>> Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> >
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
>> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>> 
>> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
>> years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>> 
>> Hi Chuck,
>> 
>> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is
>> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with
>> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch
>> ID.
>> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well
>> on it.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>>   On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean > <mailto:cadean...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   
>>   New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>   Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer
>> iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning
>> the fingerprint?
>>   I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use
>> a fingerprint, if possible.
>>   Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>>   Chuck  (mobile)
>>   Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>> 
>> 
>>   Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/>
>> 
>> 
>>   Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Joshua Hendrickson]

That issue should be fixed in the next IOS update.  I think that update is 15.4.

On 3/11/22, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>
> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> Chuck,
>>
>>
>>
>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
>> mine.
>>
>>
>>
>> Alan
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Chuck
>> Dean
>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>
>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running
>> perfectly!
>>
>>
>>
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
>> <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
>> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed.
>> If
>> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
>> have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
>> uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes
>> to
>> another iPhone?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>
>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>> 
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf
>> of
>> Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> >
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
>> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
>> years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>> Hi Chuck,
>>
>> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID
>> is
>> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with
>> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than
>> touch
>> ID.
>> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working
>> well
>> on it.
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean > <mailto:cadean...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer
>> iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for
>> scanning
>> the fingerprint?
>>I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to
>> use
>> a fingerprint, if possible.
>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Chuck  (mobile)
>>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>>
>>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/>
>>
>>
>>Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>The following information is important for all members of the V
>> iPhone list.
>>
>>  

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Mohib Anwar Rafay]

Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?

On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> Chuck,
>
>
>
> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
> mine.
>
>
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck
> Dean
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>
>
>
> Thank you to all who have helped.
>
> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>
>
>
> Chuck  (mobile)
>
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
>
>
>
>
>  <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>
>
>
>
>
>  <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
> <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
>
> Thanks.
>
> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If
> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
> have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
> uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to
> another iPhone?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>
> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> 
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of
> Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> >
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>
> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
> years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>
> Hi Chuck,
>
> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is
> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with
> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch
> ID.
> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well
> on it.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  <mailto:cadean...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>New iPhone without tactile home button.
>Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer
> iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning
> the fingerprint?
>I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use
> a fingerprint, if possible.
>Thanks,
>
>
>Chuck  (mobile)
>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
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RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Alan Lemly]

Chuck,

 

That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed mine.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck 
Dean
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

Thank you to all who have helped. 

I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly! 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.





 <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe





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On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:

Thanks. 

Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an Android 
phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If he hadn't 
responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not have an 
attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so uncertain about 
the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> >
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button. 

If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my years, 
totally blind, and not especially tech savvy. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Hi Chuck, 

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is not 
available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with both 
types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch ID. 
Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well on 
it. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone


   On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean mailto:cadean...@gmail.com> > wrote:



   
   New iPhone without tactile home button. 
   Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone 
without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the 
fingerprint? 
   I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a 
fingerprint, if possible. 
   Thanks, 


   Chuck  (mobile)
   Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


   Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/> 


   Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> 



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RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Carolyn]

Thanks for telling me that, wish everyone had one, Joseph. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
joseph hudson
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 3:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Yes you would be correct it only says delivered whenever it goes to another 
iPhone.

> On Mar 10, 2022, at 1:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an Android 
> phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If he hadn't 
> responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not have an 
> attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so uncertain 
> about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another 
> iPhone? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alex Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
> 
> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
> 
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
> Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button. 
> 
> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my years, 
> totally blind, and not especially tech savvy. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
> 
> Hi Chuck, 
> 
> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is 
> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with 
> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch 
> ID. 
> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well 
> on it. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>
>New iPhone without tactile home button. 
>Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone 
> without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the 
> fingerprint? 
>I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use 
> a fingerprint, if possible. 
>Thanks, 
> 
> 
>Chuck  (mobile)
>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
> 
>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/> 
> 
> 
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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Chuck Dean]

Thank you to all who have helped. 
I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly! 

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

Our 1961 Vespa 400

> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an Android 
> phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If he hadn't 
> responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not have an 
> attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so uncertain 
> about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another 
> iPhone? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alex Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
> 
> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
> 
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
> Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button. 
> 
> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my years, 
> totally blind, and not especially tech savvy. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
> 
> Hi Chuck, 
> 
> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is 
> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with 
> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch 
> ID. 
> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well 
> on it. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>
>New iPhone without tactile home button. 
>Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone 
> without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the 
> fingerprint? 
>I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use 
> a fingerprint, if possible. 
>Thanks, 
> 
> 
>Chuck  (mobile)
>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
> 
>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/> 
> 
> 
>Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> 
> 
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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[joseph hudson]

Yes you would be correct it only says delivered whenever it goes to another 
iPhone.

> On Mar 10, 2022, at 1:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an Android 
> phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If he hadn't 
> responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not have an 
> attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so uncertain 
> about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another 
> iPhone? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alex Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
> 
> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
> 
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
> Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button. 
> 
> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my years, 
> totally blind, and not especially tech savvy. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
> 
> Hi Chuck, 
> 
> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is 
> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with 
> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch 
> ID. 
> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well 
> on it. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>
>New iPhone without tactile home button. 
>Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone 
> without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the 
> fingerprint? 
>I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use 
> a fingerprint, if possible. 
>Thanks, 
> 
> 
>Chuck  (mobile)
>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
> 
>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/> 
> 
> 
>Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> 
> 
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RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Carolyn]

Thanks. 

Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an Android 
phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If he hadn't 
responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not have an 
attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so uncertain about 
the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alex Stone
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Carolyn 
<4carol...@windstream.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button. 
 
If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my years, 
totally blind, and not especially tech savvy. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Hi Chuck, 

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is not 
available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with both 
types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch ID. 
Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well on 
it. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:




New iPhone without tactile home button. 
Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone 
without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the 
fingerprint? 
I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a 
fingerprint, if possible. 
Thanks, 


Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/> 


Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> 



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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Joshua Hendrickson]

The new SE phone does sound interesting.

On 3/10/22, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com  wrote:
> I use facial id all the time. It works fine.
>
> Chris Judge
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Carolyn
> Sent: March 9, 2022 7:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>
> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
> years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Alan Lemly
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>
> Hi Chuck,
>
> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is
> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with
> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch
> ID.
> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well
> on it.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>   On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>   
>   
>
>   
>   New iPhone without tactile home button.
>   Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone
> without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the
> fingerprint?
>   I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a
> fingerprint, if possible.
>   Thanks,
>
>
>   Chuck  (mobile)
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RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[chrisjudge1967]

I use facial id all the time. It works fine.

Chris Judge


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: March 9, 2022 7:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my years, 
totally blind, and not especially tech savvy. 

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Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Hi Chuck, 

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is not 
available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with both 
types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch ID. 
Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well on 
it. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:




New iPhone without tactile home button. 
Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone 
without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the 
fingerprint? 
I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a 
fingerprint, if possible. 
Thanks, 


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[Alan Lemly]

I love my iPhone 13 Mini. I carry mine around in my front jeans pocket and its 
smaller size makes that very convenient.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck 
Dean
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 5:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

Cool Beans!

I am looking at the iPhone 13 mini. I like the smaller size, especially since I 
don’t do much viewing on my iPhone with my old tired eyes. 

 

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On Mar 9, 2022, at 4:04 PM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Chuck,

 

Your memory is much better than mine. FlickType Classic is working marvelously 
on my iPhone 13 Mini or you’d never be reading posts from me with Sent from my 
iPhone or Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS under my signature.

 

All the best with your new iPhone.

 

Alan

 

From: 'Chuck Dean' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 4:25 PM
To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

Hi Alan, 
If I remember correctly, you have a new iPhone 13 mini. 
How do you like it? 
Did FlickType classic load and work ok on the new iPhone? 
Thanks, 
Chuck

On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 1:19:47 PM UTC-7 Alan Lemly wrote:

Hi Chuck, 

 

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is not 
available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with both 
types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch ID. 

Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well on 
it. 

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone






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New iPhone without tactile home button. 
Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone without 
a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the fingerprint? 
I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a 
fingerprint, if possible. 
Thanks, 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

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[Joshua Hendrickson]

My next iPhone won't be a mini, but a pro model of some kind.  I'll
probably wait until the 15 comes out next year.  This is because
first, I've only had my iPhone 8 for around 3 years this June.  Next,
it will give me more time to save up the money to get a new iPhone.
Also, I want a phone with as much storage space as possible and the
best battery life.  The 13 pro has better battery life then the mini.
The 13 pro can get up to 22 hours of playtime, and the iPhone 8 that I
have can only get at most 13 hours of battery life.  Also, if you know
braille, then I highly recommend the bluetooth keyboard, the Hable
One.  It is a small perkins style keyboard and is totally awesome!
 I can do so much with it, including responding to and creating
emails.

On 3/9/22, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> Hello Carolyn,
> Thanks for that, I am also up in my ears, but I thought that the touch ID
> would be more secure than the face ID, but people have told me that my
> assumption was not true. I’m thinking about getting the new iPhone 13 mini.
> I like the small size!
>
> Chuck  (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>
> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>
>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 4:26 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
>> years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>> Hi Chuck,
>>
>> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is
>> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with
>> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than
>> touch ID.
>> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working
>> well on it.
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone
>> without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the
>> fingerprint?
>>I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a
>> fingerprint, if possible.
>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Chuck  (mobile)
>>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>>
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>>
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[Chuck Dean]

Hello Carolyn,
Thanks for that, I am also up in my ears, but I thought that the touch ID would 
be more secure than the face ID, but people have told me that my assumption was 
not true. I’m thinking about getting the new iPhone 13 mini. I like the small 
size!

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

Our 1961 Vespa 400

> On Mar 9, 2022, at 4:26 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my 
> years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
> 
> Hi Chuck, 
> 
> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is 
> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with 
> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch 
> ID. 
> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well 
> on it. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>
>
> 
>
>New iPhone without tactile home button.
>Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone 
> without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the 
> fingerprint? 
>I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a 
> fingerprint, if possible. 
>Thanks, 
> 
> 
>Chuck  (mobile)
>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
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[Alex Stone]

Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

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Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my years, 
totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.

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Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Hi Chuck,

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is not 
available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with both 
types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch ID.
Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well on 
it.

Alan Lemly

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New iPhone without tactile home button.
Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone 
without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the 
fingerprint?
I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a 
fingerprint, if possible.
Thanks,


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RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Carolyn]

If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my years, 
totally blind, and not especially tech savvy. 

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Hi Chuck, 

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is not 
available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with both 
types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch ID. 
Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well on 
it. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:




New iPhone without tactile home button. 
Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone 
without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the 
fingerprint? 
I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a 
fingerprint, if possible. 
Thanks, 


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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Chuck Dean]

Cool Beans!
I am looking at the iPhone 13 mini. I like the smaller size, especially since I 
don’t do much viewing on my iPhone with my old tired eyes. 


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> On Mar 9, 2022, at 4:04 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Chuck,
>  
> Your memory is much better than mine. FlickType Classic is working 
> marvelously on my iPhone 13 Mini or you’d never be reading posts from me with 
> Sent from my iPhone or Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS under my 
> signature.
>  
> All the best with your new iPhone.
>  
> Alan
>  
> From: 'Chuck Dean' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 4:25 PM
> To: VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>  
> Hi Alan, 
> If I remember correctly, you have a new iPhone 13 mini. 
> How do you like it? 
> Did FlickType classic load and work ok on the new iPhone? 
> Thanks, 
> Chuck
> On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 1:19:47 PM UTC-7 Alan Lemly wrote:
> Hi Chuck, 
>  
> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is 
> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with 
> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch 
> ID. 
> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well 
> on it. 
>  
> Alan Lemly 
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> 
> 
> New iPhone without tactile home button. 
> Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone 
> without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the 
> fingerprint? 
> I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a 
> fingerprint, if possible. 
> Thanks,
>  
> 
> Chuck  (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>  
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RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Alan Lemly]

Chuck,

 

Your memory is much better than mine. FlickType Classic is working marvelously 
on my iPhone 13 Mini or you’d never be reading posts from me with Sent from my 
iPhone or Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS under my signature.

 

All the best with your new iPhone.

 

Alan

 

From: 'Chuck Dean' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 4:25 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

Hi Alan, 
If I remember correctly, you have a new iPhone 13 mini. 
How do you like it? 
Did FlickType classic load and work ok on the new iPhone? 
Thanks, 
Chuck

On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 1:19:47 PM UTC-7 Alan Lemly wrote:

Hi Chuck, 

 

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is not 
available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with both 
types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch ID. 

Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well on 
it. 

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean mailto:cade...@gmail.com> > wrote:



New iPhone without tactile home button. 
Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone without 
a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the fingerprint? 
I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a 
fingerprint, if possible. 
Thanks, 

 

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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

['Chuck Dean' via VIPhone]

Hi Alan, 
If I remember correctly, you have a new iPhone 13 mini. 
How do you like it? 
Did FlickType classic load and work ok on the new iPhone? 
Thanks, 
Chuck
On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 1:19:47 PM UTC-7 Alan Lemly wrote:

> Hi Chuck, 
>
> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is 
> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with 
> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than 
> touch ID. 
> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working 
> well on it. 
>
> Alan Lemly 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>
> 
>
> New iPhone without tactile home button. 
> Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone 
> without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the 
> fingerprint? 
> I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a 
> fingerprint, if possible. 
> Thanks, 
>
>
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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Chuck, 

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is not 
available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with both 
types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch ID. 
Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well on 
it. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> 
> 
> New iPhone without tactile home button. 
> Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone 
> without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the 
> fingerprint? 
> I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a 
> fingerprint, if possible. 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Mary Otten]

Hi Chuck,
No. There is no place on a face ID phone to put your finger do use touch ID. 
Touch ID is not on any iPhone that has Face ID. So the only phone that you can 
use that is currently produced is the latest iPhone SE which will be coming out 
shortly. That was announced yesterday. The older iPhone SE two can also be 
used, but it has been discontinued by Apple. You might find it in stores. 
Otherwise, no deal. I’ve use my 10 r with Face ID and Apple Pay without a 
problem. When iOS 15. Four comes out of beta next week, you will be able to use 
Apple Pay and Face ID even if you’re wearing a mask.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 9, 2022, at 12:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
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> 
> New iPhone without tactile home button. 
> Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone 
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> fingerprint? 
> I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a 
> fingerprint, if possible. 
> Thanks,
> 
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RE: new iPhone

[Simon A Fogarty]

Ok, thanks allan,

Guess it’s not available down under.

Cheers.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2021 4:19 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iPhone

Hi Simon,

BARD is the download service of the National Library Service available to print 
impaired citizens of the USA.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Simon 
A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 12:12:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: new iPhone

So with this book service,
Do you have to purchase the books or is it a book like service where you can 
lone the books for a specific time?

 I'm not sure this is a service we can get in NZ

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Charles Spicer
Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2021 3:40 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: new iPhone

Not to mention BARD keeps track of your downloaded books!

On 11/15/21, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
mailto:pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com>> 
wrote:
> If I want to re-read a BARD book, I just download it again from BARD.
> Am I missing something here?  Just curious.
>
> Pam
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 5:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: new iPhone
>
> The minie's don't have good enough battery life for me.  That's the
> point when it comes to bard books.  You can either stream or download
> audible books, however, you can't do that with bard books.  The only
> place you can keep your bard mobile books is on your iPhone.  I really
> hope that will change.  I hate the thought of all my downloaded books
> only on one device not backed up.  Of course, I always make sure my
> bard book is backed up to my external hard drive.  However, I have to
> redownload that book again to my external hard drive if the only copy
> of the book is on my iPhone.  Of course, I have to make sure my
> external hard drive is also backed up in case something goes wrong
> with my drive.  It is very interesting about these new iPhones that
> will be coming in future.  You can just do so much cool stuff with
> them.
>
> On 11/15/21, Paula Jordan 
> mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com>> wrote:
>> I have a 13 mini and love it.
>> God bless!
>> Paula and the pups
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf
>> Of Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 11:46 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>> I have a friend, hwo loves her 12 Mini. I want to get a 13 after the
>> first of the year or maybe next spring.
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 9:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>> I heard the minis were going as the 12 mini didn't really take off
>>
>> I'm not sure about he 13 mini,
>>
>>
>>
>> But the SE I was under the impression it was going to stay
>>
>> And be renewed  every couple of years as an entry level lower cost
>> device.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 2:24 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> I didn't recall readin gthis. Most articles say that there won't be
>> an iPhone SE or Mini any more after next year.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On
>> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: November 14, 2021 2

RE: new iPhone

[Alan Lemly]

Hi James,

I expected your BARD books might already be unzipped since that was required 
for using them on a Victor Reader Stream. I agree that as long as NLS BARD is 
operating and available, re-downloading the book again is much faster than 
attempting to rezip and transfer them using an iPhone app.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 12:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iPhone

I'll save this post for future reference.  But, as far as Bard books, it sounds 
quicker to just download the books again.  All of my books on my external hard 
drive are unzipped.

Thank you for your responce.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 11:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iPhone

Hi James,

It is possible to transfer previously downloaded BARD books from a computer to 
BARD Mobile running on an iDevice. You have to decide whether the involved 
steps take less effort than just downloading the book again. You'll need a 
cloud service like Dropbox and the BARD book should be in its original zip 
format as downloaded from NLS. I have used Dropbox ever since getting my first 
iPhone because it was the service allowing access between files on my computer 
and the apps I used on my iPhone. So it only takes a short time to get zipped 
BARD books already in a Dropbox folder to the BARD Mobile app. From the Dropbox 
app, place focus on the zip file, select export, and then double tap on BARD 
Mobile. If BARD Mobile isn't presented as an option, you might have to execute 
a More button to choose it. You can also use the iOS native Files app to share 
a zipped BARD book with BARD Mobile provided the book is located in a cloud 
service available to Files. I just tested transfer of two separate BARD zip 
files I downloaded over a year ago using the Dropbox and the Files apps and the 
process only took a few seconds and each book played fine in BARD Mobile.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 9:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iPhone

Hello,

I have around two hundred Bard books saved to a hard drive in case I want to 
put them back on a thumb drive and play them on my NLS Digital player.

I suppose that it isn't possible to put these books on my iPhone S E 2020 
without just down loading them to the phone from Bard again?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Charles 
Spicer
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 8:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iPhone

Not to mention BARD keeps track of your downloaded books!

On 11/15/21, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND  wrote:
> If I want to re-read a BARD book, I just download it again from BARD.  
> Am I missing something here?  Just curious.
>
> Pam
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 5:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone
>
> The minie's don't have good enough battery life for me.  That's the 
> point when it comes to bard books.  You can either stream or download 
> audible books, however, you can't do that with bard books.  The only 
> place you can keep your bard mobile books is on your iPhone.  I really 
> hope that will change.  I hate the thought of all my downloaded books 
> only on one device not backed up.  Of course, I always make sure my 
> bard book is backed up to my external hard drive.  However, I have to 
> redownload that book again to my external hard drive if the only copy 
> of the book is on my iPhone.  Of course, I have to make sure my 
> external hard drive is also backed up in case something goes wrong 
> with my drive.  It is very interesting about these new iPhones that 
> will be coming in future.  You can just do so much cool stuff with 
> them.
>
> On 11/15/21, Paula Jordan  wrote:
>> I have a 13 mini and love it.
>> God bless!
>> Paula and the pups
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 11:46 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>> I have a friend, hwo loves her 12 Mini. I want to get a 13 after the 
>> first of the year or maybe next spring.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 9:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>> I heard the minis were going as th

RE: new iPhone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I thought you can access any of the BARD books at any time on their library?
Anyways, I found that while there are definitely some improvements especially 
in the last 2-3 years so many of these incredible features Apple announces are 
really just relatively minor things or things which benefit the sighted world a 
lot more which of course is to be expected. Just listen to the keynote for the 
iPhone 13 intro, most of it is about taking pictures, cool effects and all 
sorts of stuff I never do and I bet if I upgraded from my iPhone 11 to an 
iPhone 13 I would barely notice the difference.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: November 15, 2021 2:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iPhone

The minie's don't have good enough battery life for me.  That's the point when 
it comes to bard books.  You can either stream or download audible books, 
however, you can't do that with bard books.  The only place you can keep your 
bard mobile books is on your iPhone.  I really hope that will change.  I hate 
the thought of all my downloaded books only on one device not backed up.  Of 
course, I always make sure my bard book is backed up to my external hard drive. 
 However, I have to redownload that book again to my external hard drive if the 
only copy of the book is on my iPhone.  Of course, I have to make sure my 
external hard drive is also backed up in case something goes wrong with my 
drive.  It is very interesting about these new iPhones that will be coming in 
future.  You can just do so much cool stuff with them.

On 11/15/21, Paula Jordan  wrote:
> I have a 13 mini and love it.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 11:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>
> I have a friend, hwo loves her 12 Mini. I want to get a 13 after the 
> first of the year or maybe next spring.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 9:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>
> I heard the minis were going as the 12 mini didn’t really take off
>
> I’m not sure about he 13 mini,
>
>
>
> But the SE I was under the impression it was going to stay
>
> And be renewed  every couple of years as an entry level lower cost device.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 2:24 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>
>
>
> I didn't recall readin gthis. Most articles say that there won't be an 
> iPhone SE or Mini any more after next year.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: November 14, 2021 2:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Interesting article,
>
>
>
> I question though the comment that under screen touch id would appear 
> in a future SE before the iPhone flag ship,
>
>
>
> I would have thought that any new feature like this would go in to the 
> flag ship phones / devices before a lsecond rate device like the SE
>
>
>
> And that isn’t a down play on the SE,
>
>
>
> But they are not made to be the top of the line devices,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Richard Petty
> Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 9:38 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>
>
>
> Sieghard, thank you for sharing the full article. For those of us who 
> would hope for an under-display Touch ID, it seems some don’t think 
> this will happen. Below is a quote from the article:
>
>
>
> According to Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, Apple is working on iPhones 
> that will feature under-display Touch ID, but these devices are not 
> expected to launch until 2023. Other sources like Bloomberg have 
> disagreed that Apple is focused on under-display Touch ID, and it's 
> not clear if the feature would be included in Apple's flagship iPhones or 
> devices like a future iPhone SE.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 1:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mail

RE: new iPhone

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

That is a very cool feature that I didn't realize the Bard Mobile app had.  
Thanks for mentioning it.  




-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iPhone

The nice thing about bard, is that it is completely free.  It doesn't
cost you anything.  My previously downloaded bard books is now at
20176.  I have them all stored on my external hard drive.  Bard mobile
has a great feature that once on a book title of your bookshelf, you
can swipe down for additional options, like author, more info which
would tell you the summary of the book, an option to see all books by
that author that bard had, or all books in a specific category, or all
books in a specific series.  Very cool.

On 11/16/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> So with this book service,
> Do you have to purchase the books or is it a book like service where you can
> lone the books for a specific time?
>
>  I'm not sure this is a service we can get in NZ
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Charles Spicer
> Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2021 3:40 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone
>
> Not to mention BARD keeps track of your downloaded books!
>
> On 11/15/21, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
> wrote:
>> If I want to re-read a BARD book, I just download it again from BARD.
>> Am I missing something here?  Just curious.
>>
>> Pam
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 5:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new iPhone
>>
>> The minie's don't have good enough battery life for me.  That's the
>> point when it comes to bard books.  You can either stream or download
>> audible books, however, you can't do that with bard books.  The only
>> place you can keep your bard mobile books is on your iPhone.  I really
>> hope that will change.  I hate the thought of all my downloaded books
>> only on one device not backed up.  Of course, I always make sure my
>> bard book is backed up to my external hard drive.  However, I have to
>> redownload that book again to my external hard drive if the only copy
>> of the book is on my iPhone.  Of course, I have to make sure my
>> external hard drive is also backed up in case something goes wrong
>> with my drive.  It is very interesting about these new iPhones that
>> will be coming in future.  You can just do so much cool stuff with
>> them.
>>
>> On 11/15/21, Paula Jordan  wrote:
>>> I have a 13 mini and love it.
>>> God bless!
>>> Paula and the pups
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of Carolyn
>>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 11:46 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>>
>>> I have a friend, hwo loves her 12 Mini. I want to get a 13 after the
>>> first of the year or maybe next spring.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 9:11 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>>
>>> I heard the minis were going as the 12 mini didn't really take off
>>>
>>> I'm not sure about he 13 mini,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But the SE I was under the impression it was going to stay
>>>
>>> And be renewed  every couple of years as an entry level lower cost
>>> device.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 2:24 pm
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I didn't recall readin gthis. Most articles say that there won't be
>>> an iPhone SE or Mini any more after next year.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On
>>> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
>>> Sent: November 14, 2021 2:38 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Interesting article,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

Re: new iPhone

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Simon,

BARD is the download service of the National Library Service available to print 
impaired citizens of the USA.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon A 
Fogarty 
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 12:12:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: new iPhone

So with this book service,
Do you have to purchase the books or is it a book like service where you can 
lone the books for a specific time?

 I'm not sure this is a service we can get in NZ

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Charles 
Spicer
Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2021 3:40 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iPhone

Not to mention BARD keeps track of your downloaded books!

On 11/15/21, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND  wrote:
> If I want to re-read a BARD book, I just download it again from BARD.
> Am I missing something here?  Just curious.
>
> Pam
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 5:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone
>
> The minie's don't have good enough battery life for me.  That's the
> point when it comes to bard books.  You can either stream or download
> audible books, however, you can't do that with bard books.  The only
> place you can keep your bard mobile books is on your iPhone.  I really
> hope that will change.  I hate the thought of all my downloaded books
> only on one device not backed up.  Of course, I always make sure my
> bard book is backed up to my external hard drive.  However, I have to
> redownload that book again to my external hard drive if the only copy
> of the book is on my iPhone.  Of course, I have to make sure my
> external hard drive is also backed up in case something goes wrong
> with my drive.  It is very interesting about these new iPhones that
> will be coming in future.  You can just do so much cool stuff with
> them.
>
> On 11/15/21, Paula Jordan  wrote:
>> I have a 13 mini and love it.
>> God bless!
>> Paula and the pups
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 11:46 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>> I have a friend, hwo loves her 12 Mini. I want to get a 13 after the
>> first of the year or maybe next spring.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 9:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>> I heard the minis were going as the 12 mini didn't really take off
>>
>> I'm not sure about he 13 mini,
>>
>>
>>
>> But the SE I was under the impression it was going to stay
>>
>> And be renewed  every couple of years as an entry level lower cost
>> device.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 2:24 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> I didn't recall readin gthis. Most articles say that there won't be
>> an iPhone SE or Mini any more after next year.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On
>> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: November 14, 2021 2:38 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Interesting article,
>>
>>
>>
>> I question though the comment that under screen touch id would appear
>> in a future SE before the iPhone flag ship,
>>
>>
>>
>> I would have thought that any new feature like this would go in to
>> the flag ship phones / devices before a lsecond rate device like the
>> SE
>>
>>
>>
>> And that isn't a down play on the SE,
>>
>>
>>
>> But they are not made to be the top of the line devices,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On
>> Behalf Of Richard Petty
>> Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 9:38 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>

Re: new iPhone

[Joshua Hendrickson]

The nice thing about bard, is that it is completely free.  It doesn't
cost you anything.  My previously downloaded bard books is now at
20176.  I have them all stored on my external hard drive.  Bard mobile
has a great feature that once on a book title of your bookshelf, you
can swipe down for additional options, like author, more info which
would tell you the summary of the book, an option to see all books by
that author that bard had, or all books in a specific category, or all
books in a specific series.  Very cool.

On 11/16/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> So with this book service,
> Do you have to purchase the books or is it a book like service where you can
> lone the books for a specific time?
>
>  I'm not sure this is a service we can get in NZ
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Charles Spicer
> Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2021 3:40 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone
>
> Not to mention BARD keeps track of your downloaded books!
>
> On 11/15/21, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
> wrote:
>> If I want to re-read a BARD book, I just download it again from BARD.
>> Am I missing something here?  Just curious.
>>
>> Pam
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 5:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new iPhone
>>
>> The minie's don't have good enough battery life for me.  That's the
>> point when it comes to bard books.  You can either stream or download
>> audible books, however, you can't do that with bard books.  The only
>> place you can keep your bard mobile books is on your iPhone.  I really
>> hope that will change.  I hate the thought of all my downloaded books
>> only on one device not backed up.  Of course, I always make sure my
>> bard book is backed up to my external hard drive.  However, I have to
>> redownload that book again to my external hard drive if the only copy
>> of the book is on my iPhone.  Of course, I have to make sure my
>> external hard drive is also backed up in case something goes wrong
>> with my drive.  It is very interesting about these new iPhones that
>> will be coming in future.  You can just do so much cool stuff with
>> them.
>>
>> On 11/15/21, Paula Jordan  wrote:
>>> I have a 13 mini and love it.
>>> God bless!
>>> Paula and the pups
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of Carolyn
>>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 11:46 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>>
>>> I have a friend, hwo loves her 12 Mini. I want to get a 13 after the
>>> first of the year or maybe next spring.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 9:11 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>>
>>> I heard the minis were going as the 12 mini didn't really take off
>>>
>>> I'm not sure about he 13 mini,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But the SE I was under the impression it was going to stay
>>>
>>> And be renewed  every couple of years as an entry level lower cost
>>> device.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 2:24 pm
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I didn't recall readin gthis. Most articles say that there won't be
>>> an iPhone SE or Mini any more after next year.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On
>>> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
>>> Sent: November 14, 2021 2:38 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Interesting article,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I question though the comment that under screen touch id would appear
>>> in a future SE before the iPhone flag ship,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would have thought that any new feature like this would go in to
>>> the flag ship phones / devi

RE: new iPhone

[Simon A Fogarty]

So with this book service,
Do you have to purchase the books or is it a book like service where you can 
lone the books for a specific time?

 I'm not sure this is a service we can get in NZ 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Charles 
Spicer
Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2021 3:40 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iPhone

Not to mention BARD keeps track of your downloaded books!

On 11/15/21, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND  wrote:
> If I want to re-read a BARD book, I just download it again from BARD.  
> Am I missing something here?  Just curious.
>
> Pam
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 5:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone
>
> The minie's don't have good enough battery life for me.  That's the 
> point when it comes to bard books.  You can either stream or download 
> audible books, however, you can't do that with bard books.  The only 
> place you can keep your bard mobile books is on your iPhone.  I really 
> hope that will change.  I hate the thought of all my downloaded books 
> only on one device not backed up.  Of course, I always make sure my 
> bard book is backed up to my external hard drive.  However, I have to 
> redownload that book again to my external hard drive if the only copy 
> of the book is on my iPhone.  Of course, I have to make sure my 
> external hard drive is also backed up in case something goes wrong 
> with my drive.  It is very interesting about these new iPhones that 
> will be coming in future.  You can just do so much cool stuff with 
> them.
>
> On 11/15/21, Paula Jordan  wrote:
>> I have a 13 mini and love it.
>> God bless!
>> Paula and the pups
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 11:46 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>> I have a friend, hwo loves her 12 Mini. I want to get a 13 after the 
>> first of the year or maybe next spring.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 9:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>> I heard the minis were going as the 12 mini didn't really take off
>>
>> I'm not sure about he 13 mini,
>>
>>
>>
>> But the SE I was under the impression it was going to stay
>>
>> And be renewed  every couple of years as an entry level lower cost 
>> device.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 2:24 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> I didn't recall readin gthis. Most articles say that there won't be 
>> an iPhone SE or Mini any more after next year.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
>> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: November 14, 2021 2:38 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Interesting article,
>>
>>
>>
>> I question though the comment that under screen touch id would appear 
>> in a future SE before the iPhone flag ship,
>>
>>
>>
>> I would have thought that any new feature like this would go in to 
>> the flag ship phones / devices before a lsecond rate device like the 
>> SE
>>
>>
>>
>> And that isn't a down play on the SE,
>>
>>
>>
>> But they are not made to be the top of the line devices,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
>> Behalf Of Richard Petty
>> Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 9:38 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> Sieghard, thank you for sharing the full article. For those of us who 
>> would hope for an under-display Touch ID, it seems some don't think 
>> this will happen. Below is a quote from the article:
>>
>>
>>
>> According to Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, Apple is working on iPhones 
>> that will feature u

RE: new iPhone

[bentleyj1952]

I'll save this post for future reference.  But, as far as Bard books, it sounds 
quicker to just download the books again.  All of my books on my external hard 
drive are unzipped.

Thank you for your responce.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 11:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iPhone

Hi James,

It is possible to transfer previously downloaded BARD books from a computer to 
BARD Mobile running on an iDevice. You have to decide whether the involved 
steps take less effort than just downloading the book again. You'll need a 
cloud service like Dropbox and the BARD book should be in its original zip 
format as downloaded from NLS. I have used Dropbox ever since getting my first 
iPhone because it was the service allowing access between files on my computer 
and the apps I used on my iPhone. So it only takes a short time to get zipped 
BARD books already in a Dropbox folder to the BARD Mobile app. From the Dropbox 
app, place focus on the zip file, select export, and then double tap on BARD 
Mobile. If BARD Mobile isn't presented as an option, you might have to execute 
a More button to choose it. You can also use the iOS native Files app to share 
a zipped BARD book with BARD Mobile provided the book is located in a cloud 
service available to Files. I just tested transfer of two separate BARD zip 
files I downloaded over a year ago using the Dropbox and the Files apps and the 
process only took a few seconds and each book played fine in BARD Mobile.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 9:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iPhone

Hello,

I have around two hundred Bard books saved to a hard drive in case I want to 
put them back on a thumb drive and play them on my NLS Digital player.

I suppose that it isn't possible to put these books on my iPhone S E 2020 
without just down loading them to the phone from Bard again?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Charles 
Spicer
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 8:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iPhone

Not to mention BARD keeps track of your downloaded books!

On 11/15/21, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND  wrote:
> If I want to re-read a BARD book, I just download it again from BARD.  
> Am I missing something here?  Just curious.
>
> Pam
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 5:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone
>
> The minie's don't have good enough battery life for me.  That's the 
> point when it comes to bard books.  You can either stream or download 
> audible books, however, you can't do that with bard books.  The only 
> place you can keep your bard mobile books is on your iPhone.  I really 
> hope that will change.  I hate the thought of all my downloaded books 
> only on one device not backed up.  Of course, I always make sure my 
> bard book is backed up to my external hard drive.  However, I have to 
> redownload that book again to my external hard drive if the only copy 
> of the book is on my iPhone.  Of course, I have to make sure my 
> external hard drive is also backed up in case something goes wrong 
> with my drive.  It is very interesting about these new iPhones that 
> will be coming in future.  You can just do so much cool stuff with 
> them.
>
> On 11/15/21, Paula Jordan  wrote:
>> I have a 13 mini and love it.
>> God bless!
>> Paula and the pups
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 11:46 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>> I have a friend, hwo loves her 12 Mini. I want to get a 13 after the 
>> first of the year or maybe next spring.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 9:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>> I heard the minis were going as the 12 mini didn't really take off
>>
>> I'm not sure about he 13 mini,
>>
>>
>>
>> But the SE I was under the impression it was going to stay
>>
>> And be renewed  every couple of years as an entry level lower cost 
>> device.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 2:24 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone

RE: new iPhone

[Alan Lemly]

Hi James,

It is possible to transfer previously downloaded BARD books from a computer to 
BARD Mobile running on an iDevice. You have to decide whether the involved 
steps take less effort than just downloading the book again. You'll need a 
cloud service like Dropbox and the BARD book should be in its original zip 
format as downloaded from NLS. I have used Dropbox ever since getting my first 
iPhone because it was the service allowing access between files on my computer 
and the apps I used on my iPhone. So it only takes a short time to get zipped 
BARD books already in a Dropbox folder to the BARD Mobile app. From the Dropbox 
app, place focus on the zip file, select export, and then double tap on BARD 
Mobile. If BARD Mobile isn't presented as an option, you might have to execute 
a More button to choose it. You can also use the iOS native Files app to share 
a zipped BARD book with BARD Mobile provided the book is located in a cloud 
service available to Files. I just tested transfer of two separate BARD zip 
files I downloaded over a year ago using the Dropbox and the Files apps and the 
process only took a few seconds and each book played fine in BARD Mobile.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 9:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iPhone

Hello,

I have around two hundred Bard books saved to a hard drive in case I want to 
put them back on a thumb drive and play them on my NLS Digital player.

I suppose that it isn't possible to put these books on my iPhone S E 2020 
without just down loading them to the phone from Bard again?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Charles 
Spicer
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 8:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iPhone

Not to mention BARD keeps track of your downloaded books!

On 11/15/21, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND  wrote:
> If I want to re-read a BARD book, I just download it again from BARD.  
> Am I missing something here?  Just curious.
>
> Pam
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 5:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone
>
> The minie's don't have good enough battery life for me.  That's the 
> point when it comes to bard books.  You can either stream or download 
> audible books, however, you can't do that with bard books.  The only 
> place you can keep your bard mobile books is on your iPhone.  I really 
> hope that will change.  I hate the thought of all my downloaded books 
> only on one device not backed up.  Of course, I always make sure my 
> bard book is backed up to my external hard drive.  However, I have to 
> redownload that book again to my external hard drive if the only copy 
> of the book is on my iPhone.  Of course, I have to make sure my 
> external hard drive is also backed up in case something goes wrong 
> with my drive.  It is very interesting about these new iPhones that 
> will be coming in future.  You can just do so much cool stuff with 
> them.
>
> On 11/15/21, Paula Jordan  wrote:
>> I have a 13 mini and love it.
>> God bless!
>> Paula and the pups
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 11:46 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>> I have a friend, hwo loves her 12 Mini. I want to get a 13 after the 
>> first of the year or maybe next spring.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 9:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>> I heard the minis were going as the 12 mini didn't really take off
>>
>> I'm not sure about he 13 mini,
>>
>>
>>
>> But the SE I was under the impression it was going to stay
>>
>> And be renewed  every couple of years as an entry level lower cost 
>> device.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 2:24 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> I didn't recall readin gthis. Most articles say that there won't be 
>> an iPhone SE or Mini any more after next year.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
>> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: November 14, 2021 2:38 PM
&

RE: new iPhone

[bentleyj1952]

Hello,

I have around two hundred Bard books saved to a hard drive in case I want to 
put them back on a thumb drive and play them on my NLS Digital player.

I suppose that it isn't possible to put these books on my iPhone S E 2020 
without just down loading them to the phone from Bard again?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Charles 
Spicer
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 8:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iPhone

Not to mention BARD keeps track of your downloaded books!

On 11/15/21, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND  wrote:
> If I want to re-read a BARD book, I just download it again from BARD.  Am I
> missing something here?  Just curious.
>
> Pam
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 5:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone
>
> The minie's don't have good enough battery life for me.  That's the
> point when it comes to bard books.  You can either stream or download
> audible books, however, you can't do that with bard books.  The only
> place you can keep your bard mobile books is on your iPhone.  I really
> hope that will change.  I hate the thought of all my downloaded books
> only on one device not backed up.  Of course, I always make sure my
> bard book is backed up to my external hard drive.  However, I have to
> redownload that book again to my external hard drive if the only copy
> of the book is on my iPhone.  Of course, I have to make sure my
> external hard drive is also backed up in case something goes wrong
> with my drive.  It is very interesting about these new iPhones that
> will be coming in future.  You can just do so much cool stuff with
> them.
>
> On 11/15/21, Paula Jordan  wrote:
>> I have a 13 mini and love it.
>> God bless!
>> Paula and the pups
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 11:46 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>> I have a friend, hwo loves her 12 Mini. I want to get a 13 after the
>> first
>> of the year or maybe next spring.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 9:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>> I heard the minis were going as the 12 mini didn't really take off
>>
>> I'm not sure about he 13 mini,
>>
>>
>>
>> But the SE I was under the impression it was going to stay
>>
>> And be renewed  every couple of years as an entry level lower cost
>> device.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 2:24 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> I didn't recall readin gthis. Most articles say that there won't be an
>> iPhone SE or Mini any more after next year.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf
>> Of
>> Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: November 14, 2021 2:38 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Interesting article,
>>
>>
>>
>> I question though the comment that under screen touch id would appear in
>> a
>> future SE before the iPhone flag ship,
>>
>>
>>
>> I would have thought that any new feature like this would go in to the
>> flag
>> ship phones / devices before a lsecond rate device like the SE
>>
>>
>>
>> And that isn't a down play on the SE,
>>
>>
>>
>> But they are not made to be the top of the line devices,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf
>> Of
>> Richard Petty
>> Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 9:38 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> Sieghard, thank you for sharing the full article. For those of us who
>> would
>> hope for an under-display Touch ID, it seems some don't think this will
>> happen. Below is a quote from the ar

Re: new iPhone

[Charles Spicer]

Not to mention BARD keeps track of your downloaded books!

On 11/15/21, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND  wrote:
> If I want to re-read a BARD book, I just download it again from BARD.  Am I
> missing something here?  Just curious.
>
> Pam
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 5:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone
>
> The minie's don't have good enough battery life for me.  That's the
> point when it comes to bard books.  You can either stream or download
> audible books, however, you can't do that with bard books.  The only
> place you can keep your bard mobile books is on your iPhone.  I really
> hope that will change.  I hate the thought of all my downloaded books
> only on one device not backed up.  Of course, I always make sure my
> bard book is backed up to my external hard drive.  However, I have to
> redownload that book again to my external hard drive if the only copy
> of the book is on my iPhone.  Of course, I have to make sure my
> external hard drive is also backed up in case something goes wrong
> with my drive.  It is very interesting about these new iPhones that
> will be coming in future.  You can just do so much cool stuff with
> them.
>
> On 11/15/21, Paula Jordan  wrote:
>> I have a 13 mini and love it.
>> God bless!
>> Paula and the pups
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 11:46 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>> I have a friend, hwo loves her 12 Mini. I want to get a 13 after the
>> first
>> of the year or maybe next spring.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 9:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>> I heard the minis were going as the 12 mini didn't really take off
>>
>> I'm not sure about he 13 mini,
>>
>>
>>
>> But the SE I was under the impression it was going to stay
>>
>> And be renewed  every couple of years as an entry level lower cost
>> device.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 2:24 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> I didn't recall readin gthis. Most articles say that there won't be an
>> iPhone SE or Mini any more after next year.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf
>> Of
>> Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: November 14, 2021 2:38 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Interesting article,
>>
>>
>>
>> I question though the comment that under screen touch id would appear in
>> a
>> future SE before the iPhone flag ship,
>>
>>
>>
>> I would have thought that any new feature like this would go in to the
>> flag
>> ship phones / devices before a lsecond rate device like the SE
>>
>>
>>
>> And that isn't a down play on the SE,
>>
>>
>>
>> But they are not made to be the top of the line devices,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf
>> Of
>> Richard Petty
>> Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 9:38 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> Sieghard, thank you for sharing the full article. For those of us who
>> would
>> hope for an under-display Touch ID, it seems some don't think this will
>> happen. Below is a quote from the article:
>>
>>
>>
>> According to Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, Apple is working on iPhones that
>> will feature under-display Touch ID, but these devices are not expected
>> to
>> launch until 2023. Other sources like Bloomberg have disagreed that Apple
>> is
>> focused on under-display Touch ID, and it's not clear if the feature
>> would
>> be included in Apple's flagship iPhones or devices like a future iPhone
>> SE

RE: new iPhone

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

If I want to re-read a BARD book, I just download it again from BARD.  Am I 
missing something here?  Just curious.

Pam

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iPhone

The minie's don't have good enough battery life for me.  That's the
point when it comes to bard books.  You can either stream or download
audible books, however, you can't do that with bard books.  The only
place you can keep your bard mobile books is on your iPhone.  I really
hope that will change.  I hate the thought of all my downloaded books
only on one device not backed up.  Of course, I always make sure my
bard book is backed up to my external hard drive.  However, I have to
redownload that book again to my external hard drive if the only copy
of the book is on my iPhone.  Of course, I have to make sure my
external hard drive is also backed up in case something goes wrong
with my drive.  It is very interesting about these new iPhones that
will be coming in future.  You can just do so much cool stuff with
them.

On 11/15/21, Paula Jordan  wrote:
> I have a 13 mini and love it.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Carolyn
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 11:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>
> I have a friend, hwo loves her 12 Mini. I want to get a 13 after the first
> of the year or maybe next spring.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 9:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>
> I heard the minis were going as the 12 mini didn't really take off
>
> I'm not sure about he 13 mini,
>
>
>
> But the SE I was under the impression it was going to stay
>
> And be renewed  every couple of years as an entry level lower cost device.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 2:24 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>
>
>
> I didn't recall readin gthis. Most articles say that there won't be an
> iPhone SE or Mini any more after next year.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: November 14, 2021 2:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Interesting article,
>
>
>
> I question though the comment that under screen touch id would appear in a
> future SE before the iPhone flag ship,
>
>
>
> I would have thought that any new feature like this would go in to the flag
> ship phones / devices before a lsecond rate device like the SE
>
>
>
> And that isn't a down play on the SE,
>
>
>
> But they are not made to be the top of the line devices,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Richard Petty
> Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 9:38 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>
>
>
> Sieghard, thank you for sharing the full article. For those of us who would
> hope for an under-display Touch ID, it seems some don't think this will
> happen. Below is a quote from the article:
>
>
>
> According to Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, Apple is working on iPhones that
> will feature under-display Touch ID, but these devices are not expected to
> launch until 2023. Other sources like Bloomberg have disagreed that Apple is
> focused on under-display Touch ID, and it's not clear if the feature would
> be included in Apple's flagship iPhones or devices like a future iPhone SE.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 1:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>
>
>
> Dennis already answered your question, but depending on what you have now I
> would seriously consider to wait for the iPhone 14. I just read an article
> where it said that the 14 Pro models may very well still get under the
> screen Touch Id in addition to Face Id and depending on how bad this current
> chip shortage issue is next year, Apple may drastically increase the
> perfor

Re: new iPhone

[Joshua Hendrickson]

The minie's don't have good enough battery life for me.  That's the
point when it comes to bard books.  You can either stream or download
audible books, however, you can't do that with bard books.  The only
place you can keep your bard mobile books is on your iPhone.  I really
hope that will change.  I hate the thought of all my downloaded books
only on one device not backed up.  Of course, I always make sure my
bard book is backed up to my external hard drive.  However, I have to
redownload that book again to my external hard drive if the only copy
of the book is on my iPhone.  Of course, I have to make sure my
external hard drive is also backed up in case something goes wrong
with my drive.  It is very interesting about these new iPhones that
will be coming in future.  You can just do so much cool stuff with
them.

On 11/15/21, Paula Jordan  wrote:
> I have a 13 mini and love it.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Carolyn
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 11:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>
> I have a friend, hwo loves her 12 Mini. I want to get a 13 after the first
> of the year or maybe next spring.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 9:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>
> I heard the minis were going as the 12 mini didn’t really take off
>
> I’m not sure about he 13 mini,
>
>
>
> But the SE I was under the impression it was going to stay
>
> And be renewed  every couple of years as an entry level lower cost device.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 2:24 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>
>
>
> I didn't recall readin gthis. Most articles say that there won't be an
> iPhone SE or Mini any more after next year.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: November 14, 2021 2:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Interesting article,
>
>
>
> I question though the comment that under screen touch id would appear in a
> future SE before the iPhone flag ship,
>
>
>
> I would have thought that any new feature like this would go in to the flag
> ship phones / devices before a lsecond rate device like the SE
>
>
>
> And that isn’t a down play on the SE,
>
>
>
> But they are not made to be the top of the line devices,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Richard Petty
> Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 9:38 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>
>
>
> Sieghard, thank you for sharing the full article. For those of us who would
> hope for an under-display Touch ID, it seems some don’t think this will
> happen. Below is a quote from the article:
>
>
>
> According to Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, Apple is working on iPhones that
> will feature under-display Touch ID, but these devices are not expected to
> launch until 2023. Other sources like Bloomberg have disagreed that Apple is
> focused on under-display Touch ID, and it's not clear if the feature would
> be included in Apple's flagship iPhones or devices like a future iPhone SE.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 1:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>
>
>
> Dennis already answered your question, but depending on what you have now I
> would seriously consider to wait for the iPhone 14. I just read an article
> where it said that the 14 Pro models may very well still get under the
> screen Touch Id in addition to Face Id and depending on how bad this current
> chip shortage issue is next year, Apple may drastically increase the
> performance of the A16 chip (as well as the new chips they use in their Mac
> computers of course).
>
> In the below Mac Rumors article all of these rumors are nicely summarized
> and explained, but this article does not mention another one I saw recently
> where they expect that the iPhone 14 will use a chip base

RE: new iPhone

[Paula Jordan]

I have a 13 mini and love it.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 11:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iPhone

I have a friend, hwo loves her 12 Mini. I want to get a 13 after the first of 
the year or maybe next spring. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 9:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iPhone

I heard the minis were going as the 12 mini didn’t really take off 

I’m not sure about he 13 mini,

 

But the SE I was under the impression it was going to stay 

And be renewed  every couple of years as an entry level lower cost device.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 2:24 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iPhone

 

I didn't recall readin gthis. Most articles say that there won't be an iPhone 
SE or Mini any more after next year.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: November 14, 2021 2:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: new iPhone

 

Thanks,

Interesting article,

 

I question though the comment that under screen touch id would appear in a 
future SE before the iPhone flag ship,

 

I would have thought that any new feature like this would go in to the flag 
ship phones / devices before a lsecond rate device like the SE

 

And that isn’t a down play on the SE,

 

But they are not made to be the top of the line devices,

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Petty
Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 9:38 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: new iPhone

 

Sieghard, thank you for sharing the full article. For those of us who would 
hope for an under-display Touch ID, it seems some don’t think this will happen. 
Below is a quote from the article:

 

According to Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, Apple is working on iPhones that will 
feature under-display Touch ID, but these devices are not expected to launch 
until 2023. Other sources like Bloomberg have disagreed that Apple is focused 
on under-display Touch ID, and it's not clear if the feature would be included 
in Apple's flagship iPhones or devices like a future iPhone SE.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: new iPhone

 

Dennis already answered your question, but depending on what you have now I 
would seriously consider to wait for the iPhone 14. I just read an article 
where it said that the 14 Pro models may very well still get under the screen 
Touch Id in addition to Face Id and depending on how bad this current chip 
shortage issue is next year, Apple may drastically increase the performance of 
the A16 chip (as well as the new chips they use in their Mac computers of 
course).

In the below Mac Rumors article all of these rumors are nicely summarized and 
explained, but this article does not mention another one I saw recently where 
they expect that the iPhone 14 will use a chip based on 3 Nanometer 
architecture which could have up to 40 cores, I assume that if this won't be in 
the iPhone 14 it will be in the iPhone 15 in 2023.

Another rumored featured I look forward to is the ability to send emergency 
messages by satellite if no cellular connectivity is available. There are 
currently devices which can do this like the Garmin Inreach family of GPS's, 
the "Zoleo" satellite communicator and the Spot X Satellite Communicator. 
Inreach and Zoleo use the Iridium Satellite network, Spot uses Globalstar. The 
rumor is that the iPhone 14 will use a chip from Qualcomm which has satellite 
capabilities and this would be a pretty big deal for many who live in remote 
areas or who venture out for outdoor activities up here in Canada where often 
you have no cellular coverage. Actually, there are often emergency situations 
where people from Vancouver who are not at all equipped and capable go on hikes 
in the Northshore mountains just outside Vancouver because they see some nice 
picture on Instagram and want to experience the place and then they end up in 
some situation where Search and Rescue has to come get them and even there just 
a few miles outside Vancouver you often have valleys and areas in the mountains 
where cell coverage just doesn't exist.

Anyways, here is a link to the article:

 

iPhone 14: Everything We Know | MacRumors 
<https:/

RE: new iPhone

[Carolyn]

I have a friend, hwo loves her 12 Mini. I want to get a 13 after the first of 
the year or maybe next spring. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 9:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iPhone

I heard the minis were going as the 12 mini didn’t really take off 

I’m not sure about he 13 mini,

 

But the SE I was under the impression it was going to stay 

And be renewed  every couple of years as an entry level lower cost device.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 2:24 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iPhone

 

I didn't recall readin gthis. Most articles say that there won't be an iPhone 
SE or Mini any more after next year.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: November 14, 2021 2:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: new iPhone

 

Thanks,

Interesting article,

 

I question though the comment that under screen touch id would appear in a 
future SE before the iPhone flag ship,

 

I would have thought that any new feature like this would go in to the flag 
ship phones / devices before a lsecond rate device like the SE

 

And that isn’t a down play on the SE,

 

But they are not made to be the top of the line devices,

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Petty
Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 9:38 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: new iPhone

 

Sieghard, thank you for sharing the full article. For those of us who would 
hope for an under-display Touch ID, it seems some don’t think this will happen. 
Below is a quote from the article:

 

According to Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, Apple is working on iPhones that will 
feature under-display Touch ID, but these devices are not expected to launch 
until 2023. Other sources like Bloomberg have disagreed that Apple is focused 
on under-display Touch ID, and it's not clear if the feature would be included 
in Apple's flagship iPhones or devices like a future iPhone SE.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: new iPhone

 

Dennis already answered your question, but depending on what you have now I 
would seriously consider to wait for the iPhone 14. I just read an article 
where it said that the 14 Pro models may very well still get under the screen 
Touch Id in addition to Face Id and depending on how bad this current chip 
shortage issue is next year, Apple may drastically increase the performance of 
the A16 chip (as well as the new chips they use in their Mac computers of 
course).

In the below Mac Rumors article all of these rumors are nicely summarized and 
explained, but this article does not mention another one I saw recently where 
they expect that the iPhone 14 will use a chip based on 3 Nanometer 
architecture which could have up to 40 cores, I assume that if this won't be in 
the iPhone 14 it will be in the iPhone 15 in 2023.

Another rumored featured I look forward to is the ability to send emergency 
messages by satellite if no cellular connectivity is available. There are 
currently devices which can do this like the Garmin Inreach family of GPS's, 
the "Zoleo" satellite communicator and the Spot X Satellite Communicator. 
Inreach and Zoleo use the Iridium Satellite network, Spot uses Globalstar. The 
rumor is that the iPhone 14 will use a chip from Qualcomm which has satellite 
capabilities and this would be a pretty big deal for many who live in remote 
areas or who venture out for outdoor activities up here in Canada where often 
you have no cellular coverage. Actually, there are often emergency situations 
where people from Vancouver who are not at all equipped and capable go on hikes 
in the Northshore mountains just outside Vancouver because they see some nice 
picture on Instagram and want to experience the place and then they end up in 
some situation where Search and Rescue has to come get them and even there just 
a few miles outside Vancouver you often have valleys and areas in the mountains 
where cell coverage just doesn't exist.

Anyways, here is a link to the article:

 

iPhone 14: Everything We Know | MacRumors 
<https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/iphone-14/> 

 

 

Take care,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Mickey Quenzer
Sent: Novemb

RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

[sarai.bucciarelli]

Hi Alan:

I tried that and the web site said already activated. LOL. I have to work so 
someone is going to take my phone to an AT store. I do not have a landline, 
but I atleast have my watch.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 11:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

 

Hi Sarai,

 

I had some difficulty getting my Verizon prepaid phone service activated on my 
new iPhone 13 Mini but it wasn’t an eSIM issue. I tried using the do it 
yourself on the phone activation offered by Verizon which requires you to key 
in the IMEI and ICCID but when you have one cellular phone line that is moving 
to the device you’re activating, you can’t successfully do this using your old 
cellular phone. I got cut off in the middle of the process which if I’d been 
thinking, I should have realized this could happen. Fortunately, I had a 
landline I was able to use to get support from Verizon to finish the activation 
process. I had already gotten the physical SIM mailed to me from Verizon but it 
still had to be activated to move my service from the iPhone SE 2020 to the 13 
Mini.

 

Does AT have a website or phone app that will let you activate your 13 Pro? 
Hopefully, you won’t have to go into an AT store to get them to activate your 
phone.

 

Good luck with getting this resolved.

 

Alan Lemly 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com <mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 8:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

 

I tried putting my 8Plus standard sim in the tray of the 13 pro max.. but since 
the sim had been deactivated it didn’t work. Ugg.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 8:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

 

Hi Sieghard

 

That’s interesting that you scan a qr code to activate the e sim,

 

But does that then allow you to put a standard sim in to the tray and utilize 2 
services?

 

 

The e sim usage isn’t something we have available to us in NZ 

With 2 of our main providers,

 

Another one does use it but doesn’t’ advertise the fact. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 2:21 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

 

I am just in the process of switching to a new provider and I will be switching 
from a physical SIM to an eSim. I asked them how this would work and they told 
me that because I was switching to a different provider they would send me a 
new physical SIM and I would first insert that and then my cell number would be 
transferred to them. After that and he said I should give it a few days I can 
then activate the eSIM which he said will be done by scanning a QR code they 
also send me. I asked him what I would have to do if I wanted to get a new 
phone down the road and was told that at that point they would once again send 
me a QR code which I would scan on the new phone and that would activate the 
eSIM.

I did not know you can transfer an eSIM to a new phone the way you described. 
Not saying it can't be done, but that is different from what I was told by my 
carrier here in Canada..

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com <mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> 
Sent: November 14, 2021 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ; 
macvisionar...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: new iphone 13 pro max issues

 

Well… Only I would come up with this one.

I transferred my 8Plus to  my 13 pro max including e-sim. I had to do it via 
iCloud. Verified the cell service worked fine. Well the icloud restoration got 
hosed.. so I stopped the restoration. Signed out of icloud and reset phone back 
to factory default. I connected to Wifi and Bluetooth. Managed to transfer data 
from 1 phone to the other phone. Problem is no cell service on either device. 6 
AT tech support reps cannot figure it out. I have no phone at all. Ugg. 

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RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

[sarai.bucciarelli]

Oh it physically fit but was deactivated on initial setup.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 1:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

 

No put the sim card still fits the sim tray.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com <mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 3:57 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

 

I tried putting my 8Plus standard sim in the tray of the 13 pro max.. but since 
the sim had been deactivated it didn’t work. Ugg.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 8:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

 

Hi Sieghard

 

That’s interesting that you scan a qr code to activate the e sim,

 

But does that then allow you to put a standard sim in to the tray and utilize 2 
services?

 

 

The e sim usage isn’t something we have available to us in NZ 

With 2 of our main providers,

 

Another one does use it but doesn’t’ advertise the fact. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 2:21 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

 

I am just in the process of switching to a new provider and I will be switching 
from a physical SIM to an eSim. I asked them how this would work and they told 
me that because I was switching to a different provider they would send me a 
new physical SIM and I would first insert that and then my cell number would be 
transferred to them. After that and he said I should give it a few days I can 
then activate the eSIM which he said will be done by scanning a QR code they 
also send me. I asked him what I would have to do if I wanted to get a new 
phone down the road and was told that at that point they would once again send 
me a QR code which I would scan on the new phone and that would activate the 
eSIM.

I did not know you can transfer an eSIM to a new phone the way you described. 
Not saying it can't be done, but that is different from what I was told by my 
carrier here in Canada..

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com <mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> 
Sent: November 14, 2021 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ; 
macvisionar...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: new iphone 13 pro max issues

 

Well… Only I would come up with this one.

I transferred my 8Plus to  my 13 pro max including e-sim. I had to do it via 
iCloud. Verified the cell service worked fine. Well the icloud restoration got 
hosed.. so I stopped the restoration. Signed out of icloud and reset phone back 
to factory default. I connected to Wifi and Bluetooth. Managed to transfer data 
from 1 phone to the other phone. Problem is no cell service on either device. 6 
AT tech support reps cannot figure it out. I have no phone at all. Ugg. 

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RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

[Simon A Fogarty]

No put the sim card still fits the sim tray.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 3:57 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

I tried putting my 8Plus standard sim in the tray of the 13 pro max.. but since 
the sim had been deactivated it didn’t work. Ugg.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 8:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

Hi Sieghard

That’s interesting that you scan a qr code to activate the e sim,

But does that then allow you to put a standard sim in to the tray and utilize 2 
services?


The e sim usage isn’t something we have available to us in NZ
With 2 of our main providers,

Another one does use it but doesn’t’ advertise the fact.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 2:21 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

I am just in the process of switching to a new provider and I will be switching 
from a physical SIM to an eSim. I asked them how this would work and they told 
me that because I was switching to a different provider they would send me a 
new physical SIM and I would first insert that and then my cell number would be 
transferred to them. After that and he said I should give it a few days I can 
then activate the eSIM which he said will be done by scanning a QR code they 
also send me. I asked him what I would have to do if I wanted to get a new 
phone down the road and was told that at that point they would once again send 
me a QR code which I would scan on the new phone and that would activate the 
eSIM.
I did not know you can transfer an eSIM to a new phone the way you described. 
Not saying it can't be done, but that is different from what I was told by my 
carrier here in Canada..

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macvisionar...@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: new iphone 13 pro max issues

Well… Only I would come up with this one.
I transferred my 8Plus to  my 13 pro max including e-sim. I had to do it via 
iCloud. Verified the cell service worked fine. Well the icloud restoration got 
hosed.. so I stopped the restoration. Signed out of icloud and reset phone back 
to factory default. I connected to Wifi and Bluetooth. Managed to transfer data 
from 1 phone to the other phone. Problem is no cell service on either device. 6 
AT tech support reps cannot figure it out. I have no phone at all. Ugg.
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RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Sarai,

 

I had some difficulty getting my Verizon prepaid phone service activated on my 
new iPhone 13 Mini but it wasn’t an eSIM issue. I tried using the do it 
yourself on the phone activation offered by Verizon which requires you to key 
in the IMEI and ICCID but when you have one cellular phone line that is moving 
to the device you’re activating, you can’t successfully do this using your old 
cellular phone. I got cut off in the middle of the process which if I’d been 
thinking, I should have realized this could happen. Fortunately, I had a 
landline I was able to use to get support from Verizon to finish the activation 
process. I had already gotten the physical SIM mailed to me from Verizon but it 
still had to be activated to move my service from the iPhone SE 2020 to the 13 
Mini.

 

Does AT have a website or phone app that will let you activate your 13 Pro? 
Hopefully, you won’t have to go into an AT store to get them to activate your 
phone.

 

Good luck with getting this resolved.

 

Alan Lemly 

 

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sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 8:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

 

I tried putting my 8Plus standard sim in the tray of the 13 pro max.. but since 
the sim had been deactivated it didn’t work. Ugg.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 8:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

 

Hi Sieghard

 

That’s interesting that you scan a qr code to activate the e sim,

 

But does that then allow you to put a standard sim in to the tray and utilize 2 
services?

 

 

The e sim usage isn’t something we have available to us in NZ 

With 2 of our main providers,

 

Another one does use it but doesn’t’ advertise the fact. 

 

 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 2:21 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

 

I am just in the process of switching to a new provider and I will be switching 
from a physical SIM to an eSim. I asked them how this would work and they told 
me that because I was switching to a different provider they would send me a 
new physical SIM and I would first insert that and then my cell number would be 
transferred to them. After that and he said I should give it a few days I can 
then activate the eSIM which he said will be done by scanning a QR code they 
also send me. I asked him what I would have to do if I wanted to get a new 
phone down the road and was told that at that point they would once again send 
me a QR code which I would scan on the new phone and that would activate the 
eSIM.

I did not know you can transfer an eSIM to a new phone the way you described. 
Not saying it can't be done, but that is different from what I was told by my 
carrier here in Canada..

 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ; 
macvisionar...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: new iphone 13 pro max issues

 

Well… Only I would come up with this one.

I transferred my 8Plus to  my 13 pro max including e-sim. I had to do it via 
iCloud. Verified the cell service worked fine. Well the icloud restoration got 
hosed.. so I stopped the restoration. Signed out of icloud and reset phone back 
to factory default. I connected to Wifi and Bluetooth. Managed to transfer data 
from 1 phone to the other phone. Problem is no cell service on either device. 6 
AT tech support reps cannot figure it out. I have no phone at all. Ugg. 

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[sarai.bucciarelli]

I tried putting my 8Plus standard sim in the tray of the 13 pro max.. but since 
the sim had been deactivated it didn’t work. Ugg.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 8:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

 

Hi Sieghard

 

That’s interesting that you scan a qr code to activate the e sim,

 

But does that then allow you to put a standard sim in to the tray and utilize 2 
services?

 

 

The e sim usage isn’t something we have available to us in NZ 

With 2 of our main providers,

 

Another one does use it but doesn’t’ advertise the fact. 

 

 

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Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 2:21 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

 

I am just in the process of switching to a new provider and I will be switching 
from a physical SIM to an eSim. I asked them how this would work and they told 
me that because I was switching to a different provider they would send me a 
new physical SIM and I would first insert that and then my cell number would be 
transferred to them. After that and he said I should give it a few days I can 
then activate the eSIM which he said will be done by scanning a QR code they 
also send me. I asked him what I would have to do if I wanted to get a new 
phone down the road and was told that at that point they would once again send 
me a QR code which I would scan on the new phone and that would activate the 
eSIM.

I did not know you can transfer an eSIM to a new phone the way you described. 
Not saying it can't be done, but that is different from what I was told by my 
carrier here in Canada..

 

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Subject: new iphone 13 pro max issues

 

Well… Only I would come up with this one.

I transferred my 8Plus to  my 13 pro max including e-sim. I had to do it via 
iCloud. Verified the cell service worked fine. Well the icloud restoration got 
hosed.. so I stopped the restoration. Signed out of icloud and reset phone back 
to factory default. I connected to Wifi and Bluetooth. Managed to transfer data 
from 1 phone to the other phone. Problem is no cell service on either device. 6 
AT tech support reps cannot figure it out. I have no phone at all. Ugg. 

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[sarai.bucciarelli]

 

 

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Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 8:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

 

Exactly, now that I am switching back to Telus here in Canada which offers eSIM 
and where I can finally also add my cellular Apple Watch for an extra $10 so it 
can work more Apple told me all I’d have to do is accept the transfer when 
transferring data. Well it worked but left when I had to hard reset the phone. 
Ugg.independently I want to switch to eSIM so that when my wife and I go back 
to the Philippines where she is from it is way easier to just buy a prepaid 
physical SIM there and stick it into the empty tray. This way my Canadian 
number still works, but I can use the local service for most things.

I could, if I wanted to also get another physical SIM here, even just one 
without data and have a separate mobile business phone number, but I won't do 
that because now that I am using a VoIP phone system at work it is not required 
as I can get any calls made to my business number on my iPhone and I can choose 
to answer them after hours or not and I can call out via the app from my VoIP 
service which to the person I am calling appears like I am calling from my 
business number.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: November 14, 2021 6:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

 

Hi Sieghard

 

That’s interesting that you scan a qr code to activate the e sim,

 

But does that then allow you to put a standard sim in to the tray and utilize 2 
services?

 

 

The e sim usage isn’t something we have available to us in NZ 

With 2 of our main providers,

 

Another one does use it but doesn’t’ advertise the fact. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 2:21 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

 

I am just in the process of switching to a new provider and I will be switching 
from a physical SIM to an eSim. I asked them how this would work and they told 
me that because I was switching to a different provider they would send me a 
new physical SIM and I would first insert that and then my cell number would be 
transferred to them. After that and he said I should give it a few days I can 
then activate the eSIM which he said will be done by scanning a QR code they 
also send me. I asked him what I would have to do if I wanted to get a new 
phone down the road and was told that at that point they would once again send 
me a QR code which I would scan on the new phone and that would activate the 
eSIM.

I did not know you can transfer an eSIM to a new phone the way you described. 
Not saying it can't be done, but that is different from what I was told by my 
carrier here in Canada..

 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ; 
macvisionar...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: new iphone 13 pro max issues

 

Well… Only I would come up with this one.

I transferred my 8Plus to  my 13 pro max including e-sim. I had to do it via 
iCloud. Verified the cell service worked fine. Well the icloud restoration got 
hosed.. so I stopped the restoration. Signed out of icloud and reset phone back 
to factory default. I connected to Wifi and Bluetooth. Managed to transfer data 
from 1 phone to the other phone. Problem is no cell service on either device. 6 
AT tech support reps cannot figure it out. I have no phone at all. Ugg. 

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RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Exactly, now that I am switching back to Telus here in Canada which offers eSIM 
and where I can finally also add my cellular Apple Watch for an extra $10 so it 
can work more independently I want to switch to eSIM so that when my wife and I 
go back to the Philippines where she is from it is way easier to just buy a 
prepaid physical SIM there and stick it into the empty tray. This way my 
Canadian number still works, but I can use the local service for most things.
I could, if I wanted to also get another physical SIM here, even just one 
without data and have a separate mobile business phone number, but I won't do 
that because now that I am using a VoIP phone system at work it is not required 
as I can get any calls made to my business number on my iPhone and I can choose 
to answer them after hours or not and I can call out via the app from my VoIP 
service which to the person I am calling appears like I am calling from my 
business number.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: November 14, 2021 6:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

Hi Sieghard

That’s interesting that you scan a qr code to activate the e sim,

But does that then allow you to put a standard sim in to the tray and utilize 2 
services?


The e sim usage isn’t something we have available to us in NZ
With 2 of our main providers,

Another one does use it but doesn’t’ advertise the fact.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 2:21 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

I am just in the process of switching to a new provider and I will be switching 
from a physical SIM to an eSim. I asked them how this would work and they told 
me that because I was switching to a different provider they would send me a 
new physical SIM and I would first insert that and then my cell number would be 
transferred to them. After that and he said I should give it a few days I can 
then activate the eSIM which he said will be done by scanning a QR code they 
also send me. I asked him what I would have to do if I wanted to get a new 
phone down the road and was told that at that point they would once again send 
me a QR code which I would scan on the new phone and that would activate the 
eSIM.
I did not know you can transfer an eSIM to a new phone the way you described. 
Not saying it can't be done, but that is different from what I was told by my 
carrier here in Canada..

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macvisionar...@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: new iphone 13 pro max issues

Well… Only I would come up with this one.
I transferred my 8Plus to  my 13 pro max including e-sim. I had to do it via 
iCloud. Verified the cell service worked fine. Well the icloud restoration got 
hosed.. so I stopped the restoration. Signed out of icloud and reset phone back 
to factory default. I connected to Wifi and Bluetooth. Managed to transfer data 
from 1 phone to the other phone. Problem is no cell service on either device. 6 
AT tech support reps cannot figure it out. I have no phone at all. Ugg.
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RE: new iPhone

[Simon A Fogarty]

Sieghard

Yes true you are with that,

I have to stop thinking that others are like my self and don’t’ take a over 
burden of photos
Or keep videos on my phone.

It’s easier to streem them

SF

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 2:28 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iPhone

Simon, you have to remember that Apple caders to all sorts of people including 
those who take thousands of pictures or do major videos and editing. If the 
camera is upgraded to 48 Megapixel and video recording to 8K I bet it wouldn't 
take long to fill up many hundreds of Fgigabytes or a
Terrabyte. Phones with even 1 Tb storage are geared almost entirely towards 
those who are into photography and videography in a major way or those among 
the blind who love to just fill whatever space they have whether 500 Gb, 1 Tb, 
2 Tb or 5 Tb with books and downloaded music whether it makes sense to have it 
all storedd on the iPhone or not.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: November 14, 2021 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: new iPhone

Dude,

Going to a 2TB phone storage,
I can’t see why you would need that much on a phone / mobile device!

Especially with the likes of iCloud and it allowing us to save to the cloud…

And the camera bump

I think they are bigger on my 13pro max
Than it was on my 11 pro max,

And the 13pm is definitely thicker than the 11pm.

So would they not have to somewhat force the cameras back in to the body of the 
phone rather than making the phones thicker again.

But all good thoughts in these rumours.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 9:56 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: new iPhone

Yes, this article seems to indicate it's only possible for 2023, but in another 
one I read recently and I can't remember where that was the author seemed to 
think it's still possible, but if so it would only be in the Pro models.
In most articles there seems to be agreement as to the 48 Megapixel rear 
camera, a big improvement to the front camera, a very similar design yet 
slightly thicker which means no more camera bump and possibly with a stronger, 
tougher yet lighter Titanium frame and round volume buttons like they were on 
the iPhone 4/4S.
Maybe just as with fashion old designs come back eventually except it takes 
only 10 or so years instead of 30 or 40.
There also seems to be consensus that the Mini will go away and that there will 
be two iPhone 14 models and two iPhone 14 Pro models both with something like a 
6.1 and 6.7 inch screen and I also read a few times that the top storage option 
may go from 1 Tb to 2 Tb, maybe only on the Pro models which maybe necessary 
due to much larger image file sizes for both pictures and video with the 
improved camera.
I also read that one author feels there will be an increasing price difference 
between the regular and Pro models.
But, they are all just rumors, fun to read, but in the end they don't matter a 
bit or at least not until we get to May or June when reliable leakers really 
start nailing them down.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Petty
Sent: November 14, 2021 12:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: new iPhone

Sieghard, thank you for sharing the full article. For those of us who would 
hope for an under-display Touch ID, it seems some don’t think this will happen. 
Below is a quote from the article:

According to Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, Apple is working on iPhones that will 
feature under-display Touch ID, but these devices are not expected to launch 
until 2023. Other sources like Bloomberg have disagreed that Apple is focused 
on under-display Touch ID, and it's not clear if the feature would be included 
in Apple's flagship iPhones or devices like a future iPhone SE.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: new iPhone

Dennis already answered your question, but depending on what you have now I 
would seriously consider to wait for the iPhone 14. I just read an article 
where it said that the 14 Pro models may very well still get under the screen 
Touch Id in addition to Face Id and depending on how bad this current chip 
shortage issue is next year, Apple may drastically increase the performance of 
the A16 chip (as well as the new chips they use in their Mac co

RE: new iPhone

[Simon A Fogarty]

I heard the minis were going as the 12 mini didn’t really take off
I’m not sure about he 13 mini,

But the SE I was under the impression it was going to stay
And be renewed  every couple of years as an entry level lower cost device.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 2:24 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iPhone

I didn't recall readin gthis. Most articles say that there won't be an iPhone 
SE or Mini any more after next year.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: November 14, 2021 2:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: new iPhone

Thanks,
Interesting article,

I question though the comment that under screen touch id would appear in a 
future SE before the iPhone flag ship,

I would have thought that any new feature like this would go in to the flag 
ship phones / devices before a lsecond rate device like the SE

And that isn’t a down play on the SE,

But they are not made to be the top of the line devices,




From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Petty
Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 9:38 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: new iPhone

Sieghard, thank you for sharing the full article. For those of us who would 
hope for an under-display Touch ID, it seems some don’t think this will happen. 
Below is a quote from the article:

According to Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, Apple is working on iPhones that will 
feature under-display Touch ID, but these devices are not expected to launch 
until 2023. Other sources like Bloomberg have disagreed that Apple is focused 
on under-display Touch ID, and it's not clear if the feature would be included 
in Apple's flagship iPhones or devices like a future iPhone SE.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: new iPhone

Dennis already answered your question, but depending on what you have now I 
would seriously consider to wait for the iPhone 14. I just read an article 
where it said that the 14 Pro models may very well still get under the screen 
Touch Id in addition to Face Id and depending on how bad this current chip 
shortage issue is next year, Apple may drastically increase the performance of 
the A16 chip (as well as the new chips they use in their Mac computers of 
course).
In the below Mac Rumors article all of these rumors are nicely summarized and 
explained, but this article does not mention another one I saw recently where 
they expect that the iPhone 14 will use a chip based on 3 Nanometer 
architecture which could have up to 40 cores, I assume that if this won't be in 
the iPhone 14 it will be in the iPhone 15 in 2023.
Another rumored featured I look forward to is the ability to send emergency 
messages by satellite if no cellular connectivity is available. There are 
currently devices which can do this like the Garmin Inreach family of GPS's, 
the "Zoleo" satellite communicator and the Spot X Satellite Communicator. 
Inreach and Zoleo use the Iridium Satellite network, Spot uses Globalstar. The 
rumor is that the iPhone 14 will use a chip from Qualcomm which has satellite 
capabilities and this would be a pretty big deal for many who live in remote 
areas or who venture out for outdoor activities up here in Canada where often 
you have no cellular coverage. Actually, there are often emergency situations 
where people from Vancouver who are not at all equipped and capable go on hikes 
in the Northshore mountains just outside Vancouver because they see some nice 
picture on Instagram and want to experience the place and then they end up in 
some situation where Search and Rescue has to come get them and even there just 
a few miles outside Vancouver you often have valleys and areas in the mountains 
where cell coverage just doesn't exist.
Anyways, here is a link to the article:

iPhone 14: Everything We Know | 
MacRumors<https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/iphone-14/>


Take care,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mickey 
Quenzer
Sent: November 14, 2021 10:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: new iPhone



Does the 13 Pro Max have LiDAR? Also how is the battery life?
Thank you so much for any help you can be. On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 11:38 AM 
goshawk on horseback 
mailto:goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk>>
 wrote:
I know what you mean, as had the same issue with my old iPhone X and my new 
13pro. 

RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Sieghard

That’s interesting that you scan a qr code to activate the e sim,

But does that then allow you to put a standard sim in to the tray and utilize 2 
services?


The e sim usage isn’t something we have available to us in NZ
With 2 of our main providers,

Another one does use it but doesn’t’ advertise the fact.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 2:21 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

I am just in the process of switching to a new provider and I will be switching 
from a physical SIM to an eSim. I asked them how this would work and they told 
me that because I was switching to a different provider they would send me a 
new physical SIM and I would first insert that and then my cell number would be 
transferred to them. After that and he said I should give it a few days I can 
then activate the eSIM which he said will be done by scanning a QR code they 
also send me. I asked him what I would have to do if I wanted to get a new 
phone down the road and was told that at that point they would once again send 
me a QR code which I would scan on the new phone and that would activate the 
eSIM.
I did not know you can transfer an eSIM to a new phone the way you described. 
Not saying it can't be done, but that is different from what I was told by my 
carrier here in Canada..

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com<mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>
Sent: November 14, 2021 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>; 
macvisionar...@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: new iphone 13 pro max issues

Well… Only I would come up with this one.
I transferred my 8Plus to  my 13 pro max including e-sim. I had to do it via 
iCloud. Verified the cell service worked fine. Well the icloud restoration got 
hosed.. so I stopped the restoration. Signed out of icloud and reset phone back 
to factory default. I connected to Wifi and Bluetooth. Managed to transfer data 
from 1 phone to the other phone. Problem is no cell service on either device. 6 
AT tech support reps cannot figure it out. I have no phone at all. Ugg.
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RE: new iPhone

[Simon A Fogarty]

I guess that's a point,

But then how long would it take you to read all those audio books?

On an iPad I can see having 2TB might be useful if you couldn’t' back up to a 
server somewhere,

 But again what other than media or videos etc takes up that much space.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 1:38 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iPhone

I would want a 2 terabyte iPhone.  It would be for all the bard books I could 
put on it.  My current iPhone is only 256 gig.  I've almost reached the end of 
that amount of space.  I guess I shouldn't have put almost 1500 bard books on 
it.  I just didn't know how easy it would be to download items to my iPhone.  
However, things like apple music or Disney Plus are great on my iPhone 8.  I 
regret not getting the iPhone
11 pro  when I had the chance a couple years ago.  That iPhone was 512 gigs 
worth of space.  It is so frustrating that bard books can't move to another 
iPhone via iCloud like everything else.  I'll try and get in touch with NLS to 
see if I can make a few waves.  Great article.  I don't understand all the 
rumors, but it sounds like some very cool things are coming.

On 11/14/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> Dude,
>
> Going to a 2TB phone storage,
> I can’t see why you would need that much on a phone / mobile device!
>
> Especially with the likes of iCloud and it allowing us to save to the 
> cloud…
>
> And the camera bump
>
> I think they are bigger on my 13pro max Than it was on my 11 pro max,
>
> And the 13pm is definitely thicker than the 11pm.
>
> So would they not have to somewhat force the cameras back in to the 
> body of the phone rather than making the phones thicker again.
>
> But all good thoughts in these rumours.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 9:56 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>
> Yes, this article seems to indicate it's only possible for 2023, but 
> in another one I read recently and I can't remember where that was the 
> author seemed to think it's still possible, but if so it would only be 
> in the Pro models.
> In most articles there seems to be agreement as to the 48 Megapixel 
> rear camera, a big improvement to the front camera, a very similar 
> design yet slightly thicker which means no more camera bump and 
> possibly with a stronger, tougher yet lighter Titanium frame and round 
> volume buttons like they were on the iPhone 4/4S.
> Maybe just as with fashion old designs come back eventually except it 
> takes only 10 or so years instead of 30 or 40.
> There also seems to be consensus that the Mini will go away and that 
> there will be two iPhone 14 models and two iPhone 14 Pro models both 
> with something like a 6.1 and 6.7 inch screen and I also read a few 
> times that the top storage option may go from 1 Tb to 2 Tb, maybe only 
> on the Pro models which maybe necessary due to much larger image file 
> sizes for both pictures and video with the improved camera.
> I also read that one author feels there will be an increasing price 
> difference between the regular and Pro models.
> But, they are all just rumors, fun to read, but in the end they don't 
> matter a bit or at least not until we get to May or June when reliable 
> leakers really start nailing them down.
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Richard Petty
> Sent: November 14, 2021 12:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>
> Sieghard, thank you for sharing the full article. For those of us who 
> would hope for an under-display Touch ID, it seems some don’t think 
> this will happen. Below is a quote from the article:
>
> According to Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, Apple is working on iPhones 
> that will feature under-display Touch ID, but these devices are not 
> expected to launch until 2023. Other sources like Bloomberg have 
> disagreed that Apple is focused on under-display Touch ID, and it's 
> not clear if the feature would be included in Apple's flagship iPhones or 
> devices like a future iPhone SE.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 1:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>
> Dennis already answered your question, but depending on what you have 
> now I would seriously consider to wait for the iPhone 14. I just read 
> an article where it said that the 1

RE: new iPhone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

HI Joshua, I totally knew you would be the first who would want a 2 TB iPhone 
so you could fill it up with books 藍

Something I absolutely don't get, I have now just under 1000 books in my 
Audible library because audio books is all I listen to, but I'd never even 
dream of downloading anything to my phone which I don't currently want to read 
because even if I want to read a book again all I have to do is go to Library 
and tap on All Books instead of Downloaded and here they all are, I find one I 
want to re-read, double tap it and a few seconds later I can start listening 
or, for that matter, with Audible you don't even have to download them and I 
could just stream it.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: November 14, 2021 4:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: new iPhone



I would want a 2 terabyte iPhone.  It would be for all the bard books I could 
put on it.  My current iPhone is only 256 gig.  I've almost reached the end of 
that amount of space.  I guess I shouldn't have put almost 1500 bard books on 
it.  I just didn't know how easy it would be to download items to my iPhone.  
However, things like apple music or Disney Plus are great on my iPhone 8.  I 
regret not getting the iPhone

11 pro  when I had the chance a couple years ago.  That iPhone was 512 gigs 
worth of space.  It is so frustrating that bard books can't move to another 
iPhone via iCloud like everything else.  I'll try and get in touch with NLS to 
see if I can make a few waves.  Great article.  I don't understand all the 
rumors, but it sounds like some very cool things are coming.



On 11/14/21, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

> Dude,

>

> Going to a 2TB phone storage,

> I can’t see why you would need that much on a phone / mobile device!

>

> Especially with the likes of iCloud and it allowing us to save to the

> cloud…

>

> And the camera bump

>

> I think they are bigger on my 13pro max Than it was on my 11 pro max,

>

> And the 13pm is definitely thicker than the 11pm.

>

> So would they not have to somewhat force the cameras back in to the

> body of the phone rather than making the phones thicker again.

>

> But all good thoughts in these rumours.

>

>

>

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of

> Sieghard Weitzel

> Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 9:56 am

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

> Subject: RE: new iPhone

>

> Yes, this article seems to indicate it's only possible for 2023, but

> in another one I read recently and I can't remember where that was the

> author seemed to think it's still possible, but if so it would only be

> in the Pro models.

> In most articles there seems to be agreement as to the 48 Megapixel

> rear camera, a big improvement to the front camera, a very similar

> design yet slightly thicker which means no more camera bump and

> possibly with a stronger, tougher yet lighter Titanium frame and round

> volume buttons like they were on the iPhone 4/4S.

> Maybe just as with fashion old designs come back eventually except it

> takes only 10 or so years instead of 30 or 40.

> There also seems to be consensus that the Mini will go away and that

> there will be two iPhone 14 models and two iPhone 14 Pro models both

> with something like a 6.1 and 6.7 inch screen and I also read a few

> times that the top storage option may go from 1 Tb to 2 Tb, maybe only

> on the Pro models which maybe necessary due to much larger image file

> sizes for both pictures and video with the improved camera.

> I also read that one author feels there will be an increasing price

> difference between the regular and Pro models.

> But, they are all just rumors, fun to read, but in the end they don't

> matter a bit or at least not until we get to May or June when reliable

> leakers really start nailing them down.

> From: 
> viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%3cmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>

> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%3cmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>>
>  On Behalf

> Of Richard Petty

> Sent: November 14, 2021 12:38 PM

> To: 
> viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%3cmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>

> Subject: RE: new iPhone

>

> Sieghard, thank you for sharing the full article. For those of us who

> would hope for an under-display Touch ID, it seems some don’t think

>

RE: new iPhone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Simon, you have to remember that Apple caders to all sorts of people including 
those who take thousands of pictures or do major videos and editing. If the 
camera is upgraded to 48 Megapixel and video recording to 8K I bet it wouldn't 
take long to fill up many hundreds of Fgigabytes or a
Terrabyte. Phones with even 1 Tb storage are geared almost entirely towards 
those who are into photography and videography in a major way or those among 
the blind who love to just fill whatever space they have whether 500 Gb, 1 Tb, 
2 Tb or 5 Tb with books and downloaded music whether it makes sense to have it 
all storedd on the iPhone or not.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: November 14, 2021 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iPhone

Dude,

Going to a 2TB phone storage,
I can’t see why you would need that much on a phone / mobile device!

Especially with the likes of iCloud and it allowing us to save to the cloud…

And the camera bump

I think they are bigger on my 13pro max
Than it was on my 11 pro max,

And the 13pm is definitely thicker than the 11pm.

So would they not have to somewhat force the cameras back in to the body of the 
phone rather than making the phones thicker again.

But all good thoughts in these rumours.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 9:56 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iPhone

Yes, this article seems to indicate it's only possible for 2023, but in another 
one I read recently and I can't remember where that was the author seemed to 
think it's still possible, but if so it would only be in the Pro models.
In most articles there seems to be agreement as to the 48 Megapixel rear 
camera, a big improvement to the front camera, a very similar design yet 
slightly thicker which means no more camera bump and possibly with a stronger, 
tougher yet lighter Titanium frame and round volume buttons like they were on 
the iPhone 4/4S.
Maybe just as with fashion old designs come back eventually except it takes 
only 10 or so years instead of 30 or 40.
There also seems to be consensus that the Mini will go away and that there will 
be two iPhone 14 models and two iPhone 14 Pro models both with something like a 
6.1 and 6.7 inch screen and I also read a few times that the top storage option 
may go from 1 Tb to 2 Tb, maybe only on the Pro models which maybe necessary 
due to much larger image file sizes for both pictures and video with the 
improved camera.
I also read that one author feels there will be an increasing price difference 
between the regular and Pro models.
But, they are all just rumors, fun to read, but in the end they don't matter a 
bit or at least not until we get to May or June when reliable leakers really 
start nailing them down.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Petty
Sent: November 14, 2021 12:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: new iPhone

Sieghard, thank you for sharing the full article. For those of us who would 
hope for an under-display Touch ID, it seems some don’t think this will happen. 
Below is a quote from the article:

According to Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, Apple is working on iPhones that will 
feature under-display Touch ID, but these devices are not expected to launch 
until 2023. Other sources like Bloomberg have disagreed that Apple is focused 
on under-display Touch ID, and it's not clear if the feature would be included 
in Apple's flagship iPhones or devices like a future iPhone SE.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: new iPhone

Dennis already answered your question, but depending on what you have now I 
would seriously consider to wait for the iPhone 14. I just read an article 
where it said that the 14 Pro models may very well still get under the screen 
Touch Id in addition to Face Id and depending on how bad this current chip 
shortage issue is next year, Apple may drastically increase the performance of 
the A16 chip (as well as the new chips they use in their Mac computers of 
course).
In the below Mac Rumors article all of these rumors are nicely summarized and 
explained, but this article does not mention another one I saw recently where 
they expect that the iPhone 14 will use a chip based on 3 Nanometer 
architecture which could have up to 40 cores, I assume that if this won't be in 
the iPhone 14 it will be in the iPhone 15 in 2023.
Another rumored featured I look forward to is the ability to send emergency 
messages by satellite if no cellular connectivity is available. There are 
currently devices which can do this like the Garmin Inreach fam

RE: new iPhone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I didn't recall readin gthis. Most articles say that there won't be an iPhone 
SE or Mini any more after next year.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: November 14, 2021 2:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iPhone

Thanks,
Interesting article,

I question though the comment that under screen touch id would appear in a 
future SE before the iPhone flag ship,

I would have thought that any new feature like this would go in to the flag 
ship phones / devices before a lsecond rate device like the SE

And that isn’t a down play on the SE,

But they are not made to be the top of the line devices,




From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Petty
Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 9:38 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: new iPhone

Sieghard, thank you for sharing the full article. For those of us who would 
hope for an under-display Touch ID, it seems some don’t think this will happen. 
Below is a quote from the article:

According to Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, Apple is working on iPhones that will 
feature under-display Touch ID, but these devices are not expected to launch 
until 2023. Other sources like Bloomberg have disagreed that Apple is focused 
on under-display Touch ID, and it's not clear if the feature would be included 
in Apple's flagship iPhones or devices like a future iPhone SE.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: new iPhone

Dennis already answered your question, but depending on what you have now I 
would seriously consider to wait for the iPhone 14. I just read an article 
where it said that the 14 Pro models may very well still get under the screen 
Touch Id in addition to Face Id and depending on how bad this current chip 
shortage issue is next year, Apple may drastically increase the performance of 
the A16 chip (as well as the new chips they use in their Mac computers of 
course).
In the below Mac Rumors article all of these rumors are nicely summarized and 
explained, but this article does not mention another one I saw recently where 
they expect that the iPhone 14 will use a chip based on 3 Nanometer 
architecture which could have up to 40 cores, I assume that if this won't be in 
the iPhone 14 it will be in the iPhone 15 in 2023.
Another rumored featured I look forward to is the ability to send emergency 
messages by satellite if no cellular connectivity is available. There are 
currently devices which can do this like the Garmin Inreach family of GPS's, 
the "Zoleo" satellite communicator and the Spot X Satellite Communicator. 
Inreach and Zoleo use the Iridium Satellite network, Spot uses Globalstar. The 
rumor is that the iPhone 14 will use a chip from Qualcomm which has satellite 
capabilities and this would be a pretty big deal for many who live in remote 
areas or who venture out for outdoor activities up here in Canada where often 
you have no cellular coverage. Actually, there are often emergency situations 
where people from Vancouver who are not at all equipped and capable go on hikes 
in the Northshore mountains just outside Vancouver because they see some nice 
picture on Instagram and want to experience the place and then they end up in 
some situation where Search and Rescue has to come get them and even there just 
a few miles outside Vancouver you often have valleys and areas in the mountains 
where cell coverage just doesn't exist.
Anyways, here is a link to the article:

iPhone 14: Everything We Know | 
MacRumors<https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/iphone-14/>


Take care,
Sieghard

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mickey 
Quenzer
Sent: November 14, 2021 10:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: new iPhone



Does the 13 Pro Max have LiDAR? Also how is the battery life?
Thank you so much for any help you can be. On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 11:38 AM 
goshawk on horseback 
mailto:goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk>>
 wrote:
I know what you mean, as had the same issue with my old iPhone X and my new 
13pro. yes, there should be some sort of better audio and/or tactile feedback 
to help us with things like this, and the same when one gets a new apple watch, 
as one can often have the same problem then as well.

Simon


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