Re: How To Play a Playlist, Apple Music Station, or the Result of Any Apple Music Query Directly from the iOS Home Screen and / or Apple Watch

2024-06-26 Thread VIPhone
Thank you so much for your very kind reply, Keith.  You really made my day 
(smile).

Sincerely,

Mark

On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 11:35:10 AM UTC-7 Keith Kramlinger wrote:

> Mark, wow!! This is a fantastic description of how to use the Shortcuts 
> app for this purpose. I have never found an equally thorough and clear 
> description of how to use the Shortcuts app. I will keep this message 
> forever and use it regularly.
> Thanks again. Keith
>
>
> On Jun 26, 2024, at 12:31 AM, VIPhone  wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
>
>
> The result of the following steps will allow you to immediately play any 
> playlist, Apple Music station, or the result of any Apple Music query, 
> directly from your iOS home screen and / or Apple Watch
>
> I am assuming that you are already familiar with the basic UI of the iOS 
> Shortcuts app in the latest version of iOS.
>
> Also, in order for this to work, as I describe, you must have an Apple 
> Music subscription.
>
> Here we go:
>
> 1.
> Ask Siri to play some kind of music that you know you will want to hear in 
> the future.  For example, 1970s love songs, 1980s R Workout music, happy 
> songs from the 1990s, top soft rock music from Rod Stuart, or KCBS news 
> radio, etc.  It doesn’t matter just as long as the result is what you want 
> to hear.  The reason for this is so that Apple music will place your 
> inquiry into the recently played area of the Apple Music app.
>
> 2.
> Open the Shortcuts app.
>
> 3.
> Select Create Shortcut.
>
> 4.
> From the Add Action menu, select Play Music and add it to your shortcut. 
>  This will be the only action in the shortcut.
>
> 5.
> Place Voice Over focus on the action and swipe up until you land on “Edit, 
> Play Music”, then single-finger, double-tap in order to activate this 
> option.
>
> 6.
> Select Home.  This will take you to the Home area of your Apple Music App 
> UI, which will launch inside the Shortcuts app.
>
> 7.
> In the Recently Played area, you will see your latest inquiry.  Select it. 
>  Doing this will close the Apple Music UI and return you to the Shortcuts 
> app.  This may take a few seconds so give it time.
>
> 8.
> If you place VO focus on the single action of the shortcut, you will now 
> hear VO announce the action with the name of the query you selected in the 
> above step such as, “Play, 1980s music for working out.” 
>
> Essentially, the shortcut is complete.  The next steps simply allow you to 
> rename the shortcut and save it to your home screen and/or Apple Watch. 
>  Understand that there are several ways to accomplish this but I’m only 
> going to list what I think is the least confusing for novice shortcut 
> creators.
>
> 9.
> Select Done.  This will close the shortcut and place you back in a list of 
> all of the shortcuts currently installed on your device.  Assuming that you 
> followed the steps above, your new shortcut defaults to the name, “Play 
> Music,” followed by the number of actions in the shortcut.
>
> 10.
> With VO focused on your new Shortcut in the Shortcuts list area, 
> single-finger swipe up until you hear, “Edit Shortcut,” and select the 
> option.  This will place you back in the Shortcuts editor with the 
> shortcut, in question, opened.
>
> 11.
> Single-finger swipe until VO focus lands on the Done button.  Do not 
> activate this button.  
>
> 12.
> Swipe to the left until VO lands on, “Play Music, Actions Menu, Button.”
>
> 13.
> Activate this button.  A menu will open with several useful options 
> including, Share, Rename, Choose Icon, Duplicate, Move, Add to Home Screen, 
> and Export File.
>
> 14.
> I suggest that you first choose to rename the shortcut to the name of the 
> station, playlist, etc., that describes the music the shortcut will play. 
>  Once this has been done, then select the option to add the Shortcut to the 
> Home screen and then you will be good to go.
>
> Now, whenever you want to listen to the station designated in the 
> shortcut, simply activate it from your IOS home screen and it will 
> immediately begin to play without launching the Apple Music app.
>
> Mark
>
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Re: How To Play a Playlist, Apple Music Station, or the Result of Any Apple Music Query Directly from the iOS Home Screen and / or Apple Watch

2024-06-26 Thread VIPhone
Hello Keith and thank you so much for your very kind reply.  You really 
made my day (smile).

Sincerely,

Mark

On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 11:35:10 AM UTC-7 Keith Kramlinger wrote:

> Mark, wow!! This is a fantastic description of how to use the Shortcuts 
> app for this purpose. I have never found an equally thorough and clear 
> description of how to use the Shortcuts app. I will keep this message 
> forever and use it regularly.
> Thanks again. Keith
>
>
> On Jun 26, 2024, at 12:31 AM, VIPhone  wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
>
>
> The result of the following steps will allow you to immediately play any 
> playlist, Apple Music station, or the result of any Apple Music query, 
> directly from your iOS home screen and / or Apple Watch
>
> I am assuming that you are already familiar with the basic UI of the iOS 
> Shortcuts app in the latest version of iOS.
>
> Also, in order for this to work, as I describe, you must have an Apple 
> Music subscription.
>
> Here we go:
>
> 1.
> Ask Siri to play some kind of music that you know you will want to hear in 
> the future.  For example, 1970s love songs, 1980s R Workout music, happy 
> songs from the 1990s, top soft rock music from Rod Stuart, or KCBS news 
> radio, etc.  It doesn’t matter just as long as the result is what you want 
> to hear.  The reason for this is so that Apple music will place your 
> inquiry into the recently played area of the Apple Music app.
>
> 2.
> Open the Shortcuts app.
>
> 3.
> Select Create Shortcut.
>
> 4.
> From the Add Action menu, select Play Music and add it to your shortcut. 
>  This will be the only action in the shortcut.
>
> 5.
> Place Voice Over focus on the action and swipe up until you land on “Edit, 
> Play Music”, then single-finger, double-tap in order to activate this 
> option.
>
> 6.
> Select Home.  This will take you to the Home area of your Apple Music App 
> UI, which will launch inside the Shortcuts app.
>
> 7.
> In the Recently Played area, you will see your latest inquiry.  Select it. 
>  Doing this will close the Apple Music UI and return you to the Shortcuts 
> app.  This may take a few seconds so give it time.
>
> 8.
> If you place VO focus on the single action of the shortcut, you will now 
> hear VO announce the action with the name of the query you selected in the 
> above step such as, “Play, 1980s music for working out.” 
>
> Essentially, the shortcut is complete.  The next steps simply allow you to 
> rename the shortcut and save it to your home screen and/or Apple Watch. 
>  Understand that there are several ways to accomplish this but I’m only 
> going to list what I think is the least confusing for novice shortcut 
> creators.
>
> 9.
> Select Done.  This will close the shortcut and place you back in a list of 
> all of the shortcuts currently installed on your device.  Assuming that you 
> followed the steps above, your new shortcut defaults to the name, “Play 
> Music,” followed by the number of actions in the shortcut.
>
> 10.
> With VO focused on your new Shortcut in the Shortcuts list area, 
> single-finger swipe up until you hear, “Edit Shortcut,” and select the 
> option.  This will place you back in the Shortcuts editor with the 
> shortcut, in question, opened.
>
> 11.
> Single-finger swipe until VO focus lands on the Done button.  Do not 
> activate this button.  
>
> 12.
> Swipe to the left until VO lands on, “Play Music, Actions Menu, Button.”
>
> 13.
> Activate this button.  A menu will open with several useful options 
> including, Share, Rename, Choose Icon, Duplicate, Move, Add to Home Screen, 
> and Export File.
>
> 14.
> I suggest that you first choose to rename the shortcut to the name of the 
> station, playlist, etc., that describes the music the shortcut will play. 
>  Once this has been done, then select the option to add the Shortcut to the 
> Home screen and then you will be good to go.
>
> Now, whenever you want to listen to the station designated in the 
> shortcut, simply activate it from your IOS home screen and it will 
> immediately begin to play without launching the Apple Music app.
>
> Mark
>
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Re: How To Play a Playlist, Apple Music Station, or the Result of Any Apple Music Query Directly from the iOS Home Screen and / or Apple Watch

2024-06-26 Thread Keith Kramlinger
Mark, wow!! This is a fantastic description of how to use the Shortcuts app for 
this purpose. I have never found an equally thorough and clear description of 
how to use the Shortcuts app. I will keep this message forever and use it 
regularly.
Thanks again. Keith


On Jun 26, 2024, at 12:31 AM, VIPhone  wrote:

Hello Everyone,

The result of the following steps will allow you to immediately play any 
playlist, Apple Music station, or the result of any Apple Music query, directly 
from your iOS home screen and / or Apple Watch

I am assuming that you are already familiar with the basic UI of the iOS 
Shortcuts app in the latest version of iOS.

Also, in order for this to work, as I describe, you must have an Apple Music 
subscription.

Here we go:

1.
Ask Siri to play some kind of music that you know you will want to hear in the 
future.  For example, 1970s love songs, 1980s R Workout music, happy songs 
from the 1990s, top soft rock music from Rod Stuart, or KCBS news radio, etc.  
It doesn’t matter just as long as the result is what you want to hear.  The 
reason for this is so that Apple music will place your inquiry into the 
recently played area of the Apple Music app.

2.
Open the Shortcuts app.

3.
Select Create Shortcut.

4.
>From the Add Action menu, select Play Music and add it to your shortcut.  This 
>will be the only action in the shortcut.

5.
Place Voice Over focus on the action and swipe up until you land on “Edit, Play 
Music”, then single-finger, double-tap in order to activate this option.

6.
Select Home.  This will take you to the Home area of your Apple Music App UI, 
which will launch inside the Shortcuts app.

7.
In the Recently Played area, you will see your latest inquiry.  Select it.  
Doing this will close the Apple Music UI and return you to the Shortcuts app.  
This may take a few seconds so give it time.

8.
If you place VO focus on the single action of the shortcut, you will now hear 
VO announce the action with the name of the query you selected in the above 
step such as, “Play, 1980s music for working out.”

Essentially, the shortcut is complete.  The next steps simply allow you to 
rename the shortcut and save it to your home screen and/or Apple Watch.  
Understand that there are several ways to accomplish this but I’m only going to 
list what I think is the least confusing for novice shortcut creators.

9.
Select Done.  This will close the shortcut and place you back in a list of all 
of the shortcuts currently installed on your device.  Assuming that you 
followed the steps above, your new shortcut defaults to the name, “Play Music,” 
followed by the number of actions in the shortcut.

10.
With VO focused on your new Shortcut in the Shortcuts list area, single-finger 
swipe up until you hear, “Edit Shortcut,” and select the option.  This will 
place you back in the Shortcuts editor with the shortcut, in question, opened.

11.
Single-finger swipe until VO focus lands on the Done button.  Do not activate 
this button.

12.
Swipe to the left until VO lands on, “Play Music, Actions Menu, Button.”

13.
Activate this button.  A menu will open with several useful options including, 
Share, Rename, Choose Icon, Duplicate, Move, Add to Home Screen, and Export 
File.

14.
I suggest that you first choose to rename the shortcut to the name of the 
station, playlist, etc., that describes the music the shortcut will play.  Once 
this has been done, then select the option to add the Shortcut to the Home 
screen and then you will be good to go.

Now, whenever you want to listen to the station designated in the shortcut, 
simply activate it from your IOS home screen and it will immediately begin to 
play without launching the Apple Music app.

Mark


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How To Play a Playlist, Apple Music Station, or the Result of Any Apple Music Query Directly from the iOS Home Screen and / or Apple Watch

2024-06-25 Thread VIPhone
Hello Everyone,

The result of the following steps will allow you to immediately play any 
playlist, Apple Music station, or the result of any Apple Music query, 
directly from your iOS home screen and / or Apple Watch

I am assuming that you are already familiar with the basic UI of the iOS 
Shortcuts app in the latest version of iOS.

Also, in order for this to work, as I describe, you must have an Apple 
Music subscription.

Here we go:

1.
Ask Siri to play some kind of music that you know you will want to hear in 
the future.  For example, 1970s love songs, 1980s R Workout music, happy 
songs from the 1990s, top soft rock music from Rod Stuart, or KCBS news 
radio, etc.  It doesn’t matter just as long as the result is what you want 
to hear.  The reason for this is so that Apple music will place your 
inquiry into the recently played area of the Apple Music app.

2.
Open the Shortcuts app.

3.
Select Create Shortcut.

4.
>From the Add Action menu, select Play Music and add it to your shortcut. 
 This will be the only action in the shortcut.

5.
Place Voice Over focus on the action and swipe up until you land on “Edit, 
Play Music”, then single-finger, double-tap in order to activate this 
option.

6.
Select Home.  This will take you to the Home area of your Apple Music App 
UI, which will launch inside the Shortcuts app.

7.
In the Recently Played area, you will see your latest inquiry.  Select it. 
 Doing this will close the Apple Music UI and return you to the Shortcuts 
app.  This may take a few seconds so give it time.

8.
If you place VO focus on the single action of the shortcut, you will now 
hear VO announce the action with the name of the query you selected in the 
above step such as, “Play, 1980s music for working out.” 

Essentially, the shortcut is complete.  The next steps simply allow you to 
rename the shortcut and save it to your home screen and/or Apple Watch. 
 Understand that there are several ways to accomplish this but I’m only 
going to list what I think is the least confusing for novice shortcut 
creators.

9.
Select Done.  This will close the shortcut and place you back in a list of 
all of the shortcuts currently installed on your device.  Assuming that you 
followed the steps above, your new shortcut defaults to the name, “Play 
Music,” followed by the number of actions in the shortcut.

10.
With VO focused on your new Shortcut in the Shortcuts list area, 
single-finger swipe up until you hear, “Edit Shortcut,” and select the 
option.  This will place you back in the Shortcuts editor with the 
shortcut, in question, opened.

11.
Single-finger swipe until VO focus lands on the Done button.  Do not 
activate this button.  

12.
Swipe to the left until VO lands on, “Play Music, Actions Menu, Button.”

13.
Activate this button.  A menu will open with several useful options 
including, Share, Rename, Choose Icon, Duplicate, Move, Add to Home Screen, 
and Export File.

14.
I suggest that you first choose to rename the shortcut to the name of the 
station, playlist, etc., that describes the music the shortcut will play. 
 Once this has been done, then select the option to add the Shortcut to the 
Home screen and then you will be good to go.

Now, whenever you want to listen to the station designated in the shortcut, 
simply activate it from your IOS home screen and it will immediately begin 
to play without launching the Apple Music app.

Mark

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Re: Apple Music V Amazon Unlimited?

2024-06-18 Thread Esther Levegnale
hi, I totally agree with you on this one. Esther.
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Jun 15, 2024, at 2:19 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> They are both good.
> I like both of them, but I think Apple Music may give you more higher quality 
>  music since it defaults to lossless but I suspect Amazon may be there now 
> too.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
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> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
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> I have Amazon Unlimited, and wondered what the differences are between that 
> and Apple Music?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
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Re: Apple Music V Amazon Unlimited?

2024-06-18 Thread Esther Levegnale
I love Apple Music as well. Esther.
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> On Jun 15, 2024, at 4:32 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> I prefer Apple Music because the PC interface is accessible, and it's usable 
> on all of the smart speakers.
> 
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> I have Amazon Unlimited, and wondered what the differences are between that 
> and Apple Music?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
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Re: Apple Music V Amazon Unlimited?

2024-06-15 Thread Kathy Brandt
Both are good, but Amazon I think has more  to offer in the way of offbeat 
stuff.

On Jun 15, 2024, at 4:32 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

I prefer Apple Music because the PC interface is accessible, and it's usable 
on all of the smart speakers.

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I have Amazon Unlimited, and wondered what the differences are between that and 
Apple Music?

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RE: Apple Music V Amazon Unlimited?

2024-06-15 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I prefer Apple Music because the PC interface is accessible, and it's usable on 
all of the smart speakers.

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RE: Apple Music V Amazon Unlimited?

2024-06-15 Thread Richard Turner
They are both good.
I like both of them, but I think Apple Music may give you more higher quality  
music since it defaults to lossless but I suspect Amazon may be there now too.



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RE: Apple Music V Amazon Unlimited?

2024-06-15 Thread carlarae5133
I don't like Apple Music.  I find it harder to use and it's probably a personal 
preference but give me Amazon Music.


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Apple Music V Amazon Unlimited?

2024-06-15 Thread donmoore48
I have Amazon Unlimited, and wondered what the differences are between that
and Apple Music?

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Re: Apple Music: Getting An Accurate Count

2024-06-15 Thread Esther Levegnale
hi, everyone, I also love Apple Music! Take care and have a super day. Esther.Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!On Jun 14, 2024, at 6:26 PM, lang...@gmail.com wrote:Hi all,I Love, love, Love Apple Music and have had it since it was introduced way back when. Over the years I’ve amassed a huge library of music of all styles, including classic rock, classical, country, jazz, bluegrass R and all kinds of stuff.  My old CD player died years ago, so I got rid of nearly all my CD’s and went online to replace my collection. I was talking to a buddy of mine the other day and introduced him to Apple Music and he’s really diggin’t it too. it occurred  to me that I couldn’t give him an accurate count of the potentially hundreds or even thousands of albums that I think that I’ve put into my library over the years. So I got into it recently, sorted by artists, then by albums and by Songs. In Artists, I showed 100 screens worth of stuff, and when I sorted by Albums, I got 1, 057 screens. When I sorted by Songs I got 4, 868 screens. This Is on my iPhone 12 Pro running the latest version of IOS. Is there a way that I can get an accurate count of artists, albums and songs? I didn’t see a way to do that, but I think it would be really nice to get those counts.  Is there a way to do that without endlessly scrolling through the lists, which doesn’t give me what I want? Thanks for all of your suggestions. I appreciate it.  Tom    



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Re: Apple Music: Getting An Accurate Count

2024-06-14 Thread Richard Turner
It seems to me, that you used to be able to scroll to the end of the list of artists, albums, or songs and get a number. Now, it shows the mini player instead of the total number. I had imported my 6 or 7 hundred CD recordings into iTunes about 10 years ago when I decided I didn't want to deal with the amount of space they took up. Since, I have purchased new stuff through Apple and only in the last couple of years dcided to subscribe to Apple music. Is I really do not have to buy anything more. But, I know Apple music subscriptions give you access to something like 70 or 80 million songs. Maybe more. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Jun 14, 2024, at 3:26 PM, lang...@gmail.com wrote:Hi all,I Love, love, Love Apple Music and have had it since it was introduced way back when. Over the years I’ve amassed a huge library of music of all styles, including classic rock, classical, country, jazz, bluegrass R and all kinds of stuff.  My old CD player died years ago, so I got rid of nearly all my CD’s and went online to replace my collection. I was talking to a buddy of mine the other day and introduced him to Apple Music and he’s really diggin’t it too. it occurred  to me that I couldn’t give him an accurate count of the potentially hundreds or even thousands of albums that I think that I’ve put into my library over the years. So I got into it recently, sorted by artists, then by albums and by Songs. In Artists, I showed 100 screens worth of stuff, and when I sorted by Albums, I got 1, 057 screens. When I sorted by Songs I got 4, 868 screens. This Is on my iPhone 12 Pro running the latest version of IOS. Is there a way that I can get an accurate count of artists, albums and songs? I didn’t see a way to do that, but I think it would be really nice to get those counts.  Is there a way to do that without endlessly scrolling through the lists, which doesn’t give me what I want? Thanks for all of your suggestions. I appreciate it.  Tom    



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Apple Music: Getting An Accurate Count

2024-06-14 Thread lange85
Hi all,

I Love, love, Love Apple Music and have had it since it was introduced way
back when. Over the years I've amassed a huge library of music of all
styles, including classic rock, classical, country, jazz, bluegrass R and
all kinds of stuff.  My old CD player died years ago, so I got rid of nearly
all my CD's and went online to replace my collection. I was talking to a
buddy of mine the other day and introduced him to Apple Music and he's
really diggin't it too. it occurred  to me that I couldn't give him an
accurate count of the potentially hundreds or even thousands of albums that
I think that I've put into my library over the years. So I got into it
recently, sorted by artists, then by albums and by Songs. In Artists, I
showed 100 screens worth of stuff, and when I sorted by Albums, I got 1, 057
screens. When I sorted by Songs I got 4, 868 screens. This Is on my iPhone
12 Pro running the latest version of IOS. Is there a way that I can get an
accurate count of artists, albums and songs? I didn't see a way to do that,
but I think it would be really nice to get those counts.  Is there a way to
do that without endlessly scrolling through the lists, which doesn't give me
what I want? Thanks for all of your suggestions. I appreciate it.  

Tom

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RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

2024-02-14 Thread Christopher Chaltain
It might have worked that way a while ago. I also seem to recall that you could 
only do the beta by installing it to your phone through iTunes on your 
computer. Previously, you had to install a profile to be on the beta and then 
when you left the beta, you had to remove the profile and then wait for the 
next update. A version of IOS or two ago they changed it so you don’t need to 
mess with a profile but just toggle it on and off in the software update page.

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Turner
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

Several years ago, when I had been on the beta, not sure which iOS, but then I 
was told by several Apple employees you had to wipe the phone to get out of the 
beta program.
I’ve turned betas off on my phone now and so when the next release comes out to 
the public, I will see what happens.
I trust you and Sieghard know what you are talking about.




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 10:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

No, you don’t have to wipe your phone to get rid of the beta. With both the 
current way betas work and the previous way they worked, you just have to leave 
the beta program and wait for the next release of IOS.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 7:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

Sieghard, I was told that to truly get rid of the beta, you had to wipe the 
phone. BUT, if just turning off the beta and waiting for the next release does 
the trick, I will try that and do a backup when the public release is on my 
phone, so if I need to do a restore, I have that backup available. My 
understanding has been that you cannot use a backup made with a beta to 
restore. But, I'm kind of vague on the details...
Off to turn off the beta and see what happens.


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On Feb 14, 2024, at 12:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Richard, you could just turn off Beta downloads and then wait the 3 or 4 weeks 
until iOS 17.4 is released to the public. At that point you will get the 
official iOS 17.4 version and you'll be out of the Beta program.
I decided for now to also stop using Betas as I am going to the Philippines for 
a few weeks fairly soon and I won't always have good internet connections and 
just don't want to deal with often weekly Beta updates so I did what I 
described above just before iOS 17.3 was officially released. When it did come 
out for the public I had the upddate just as everybody else, now I just had 
that small iOS 17.3.1 update Apple released, but otherwise I am off the beta 
program for now. It's a lot easier than completely resetting your phone.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

I did not realize what a headache I was in for when I installed the Apple Music 
app.
After that, iTunes only shows Podcasts and audio books.  I have neither.

Further more, WALTRPro couldn’t see my iTunes library even though it was in the 
same place as always.

I got realy frustrated and uninstalled the Apple Music app, and Apple Devices 
app.  I had not yet installed the Apple TV app.

I then uninstalled iTunes.
I tried installing iTunes from Microsoft, but when I then ran WALTRPro it said 
the version of iTunes I have is not compatible I need to download the one from 
Apple, after uninstalling the Microsoft Store version.

I got that uninstalled, and allowed WALTRPro to download the Apple version.

I installed that, and miracle of miracles, my library is back in iTunes, with 

RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

2024-02-14 Thread Richard Turner
Several years ago, when I had been on the beta, not sure which iOS, but then I 
was told by several Apple employees you had to wipe the phone to get out of the 
beta program.

I’ve turned betas off on my phone now and so when the next release comes out to 
the public, I will see what happens.

I trust you and Sieghard know what you are talking about.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 10:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

 

No, you don’t have to wipe your phone to get rid of the beta. With both the 
current way betas work and the previous way they worked, you just have to leave 
the beta program and wait for the next release of IOS.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 7:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

 

Sieghard, I was told that to truly get rid of the beta, you had to wipe the 
phone. BUT, if just turning off the beta and waiting for the next release does 
the trick, I will try that and do a backup when the public release is on my 
phone, so if I need to do a restore, I have that backup available. My 
understanding has been that you cannot use a backup made with a beta to 
restore. But, I'm kind of vague on the details... 

Off to turn off the beta and see what happens. 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

 

 

 

On Feb 14, 2024, at 12:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Richard, you could just turn off Beta downloads and then wait the 3 or 4 weeks 
until iOS 17.4 is released to the public. At that point you will get the 
official iOS 17.4 version and you'll be out of the Beta program.

I decided for now to also stop using Betas as I am going to the Philippines for 
a few weeks fairly soon and I won't always have good internet connections and 
just don't want to deal with often weekly Beta updates so I did what I 
described above just before iOS 17.3 was officially released. When it did come 
out for the public I had the upddate just as everybody else, now I just had 
that small iOS 17.3.1 update Apple released, but otherwise I am off the beta 
program for now. It's a lot easier than completely resetting your phone. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

 

I did not realize what a headache I was in for when I installed the Apple Music 
app.

After that, iTunes only shows Podcasts and audio books.  I have neither.

 

Further more, WALTRPro couldn’t see my iTunes library even though it was in the 
same place as always.

 

I got realy frustrated and uninstalled the Apple Music app, and Apple Devices 
app.  I had not yet installed the Apple TV app.

 

I then uninstalled iTunes.

I tried installing iTunes from Microsoft, but when I then ran WALTRPro it said 
the version of iTunes I have is not compatible I need to download the one from 
Apple, after uninstalling the Microsoft Store version.

 

I got that uninstalled, and allowed WALTRPro to download the Apple version.

 

I installed that, and miracle of miracles, my library is back in iTunes, with 
my music.  WALTRPro works again.  And until I am forced to change, this is the 
setup I am sticking with.  It is far, far easier to sync zip files of audio 
books to my iPhone or iPad to use with Voice Dream Reader using WALTRPro than 
with iTunes.  That is almost all I use WALTRPro for.  Sometimes to sync an 
eBook or another file to Voice Dream Reader.

 

Now that I have accomplished this, I’m tempted to wipe my phone to get rid of 
the iOS beta and start fresh and forget screwing with betas since that messes 
up doing backups, etc.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it

RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

2024-02-14 Thread Christopher Chaltain
No, you don’t have to wipe your phone to get rid of the beta. With both the 
current way betas work and the previous way they worked, you just have to leave 
the beta program and wait for the next release of IOS.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 7:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

Sieghard, I was told that to truly get rid of the beta, you had to wipe the 
phone. BUT, if just turning off the beta and waiting for the next release does 
the trick, I will try that and do a backup when the public release is on my 
phone, so if I need to do a restore, I have that backup available. My 
understanding has been that you cannot use a backup made with a beta to 
restore. But, I'm kind of vague on the details...
Off to turn off the beta and see what happens.


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/





On Feb 14, 2024, at 12:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Richard, you could just turn off Beta downloads and then wait the 3 or 4 weeks 
until iOS 17.4 is released to the public. At that point you will get the 
official iOS 17.4 version and you'll be out of the Beta program.
I decided for now to also stop using Betas as I am going to the Philippines for 
a few weeks fairly soon and I won't always have good internet connections and 
just don't want to deal with often weekly Beta updates so I did what I 
described above just before iOS 17.3 was officially released. When it did come 
out for the public I had the upddate just as everybody else, now I just had 
that small iOS 17.3.1 update Apple released, but otherwise I am off the beta 
program for now. It's a lot easier than completely resetting your phone.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

I did not realize what a headache I was in for when I installed the Apple Music 
app.
After that, iTunes only shows Podcasts and audio books.  I have neither.

Further more, WALTRPro couldn’t see my iTunes library even though it was in the 
same place as always.

I got realy frustrated and uninstalled the Apple Music app, and Apple Devices 
app.  I had not yet installed the Apple TV app.

I then uninstalled iTunes.
I tried installing iTunes from Microsoft, but when I then ran WALTRPro it said 
the version of iTunes I have is not compatible I need to download the one from 
Apple, after uninstalling the Microsoft Store version.

I got that uninstalled, and allowed WALTRPro to download the Apple version.

I installed that, and miracle of miracles, my library is back in iTunes, with 
my music.  WALTRPro works again.  And until I am forced to change, this is the 
setup I am sticking with.  It is far, far easier to sync zip files of audio 
books to my iPhone or iPad to use with Voice Dream Reader using WALTRPro than 
with iTunes.  That is almost all I use WALTRPro for.  Sometimes to sync an 
eBook or another file to Voice Dream Reader.

Now that I have accomplished this, I’m tempted to wipe my phone to get rid of 
the iOS beta and start fresh and forget screwing with betas since that messes 
up doing backups, etc.



Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

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Re: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

2024-02-14 Thread Richard Turner
Sieghard, I was told that to truly get rid of the beta, you had to wipe the phone. BUT, if just turning off the beta and waiting for the next release does the trick, I will try that and do a backup when the public release is on my phone, so if I need to do a restore, I have that backup available. My understanding has been that you cannot use a backup made with a beta to restore. But, I'm kind of vague on the details... Off to turn off the beta and see what happens. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Feb 14, 2024, at 12:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Richard, you could just turn off Beta downloads and then wait the 3 or 4 weeks until iOS 17.4 is released to the public. At that point you will get the official iOS 17.4 version and you'll
 be out of the Beta program.
I decided for now to also stop using Betas as I am going to the Philippines for a few weeks fairly soon and I won't always have good internet connections and just don't want to deal with often
 weekly Beta updates so I did what I described above just before iOS 17.3 was officially released. When it did come out for the public I had the upddate just as everybody else, now I just had that small iOS 17.3.1 update Apple released, but otherwise I am off
 the beta program for now. It's a lot easier than completely resetting your phone.

 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution


 
I did not realize what a headache I was in for when I installed the Apple Music app.
After that, iTunes only shows Podcasts and audio books.  I have neither.
 
Further more, WALTRPro couldn’t see my iTunes library even though it was in the same place as always.
 
I got realy frustrated and uninstalled the Apple Music app, and Apple Devices app.  I had not yet installed the Apple TV app.
 
I then uninstalled iTunes.
I tried installing iTunes from Microsoft, but when I then ran WALTRPro it said the version of iTunes I have is not compatible I need to download the one from Apple, after uninstalling the Microsoft Store version.
 
I got that uninstalled, and allowed WALTRPro to download the Apple version.
 
I installed that, and miracle of miracles, my library is back in iTunes, with my music.  WALTRPro works again.  And until I am forced to change, this is the setup I am sticking with.  It is far, far easier to sync zip files of audio books
 to my iPhone or iPad to use with Voice Dream Reader using WALTRPro than with iTunes.  That is almost all I use WALTRPro for.  Sometimes to sync an eBook or another file to Voice Dream Reader.
 
Now that I have accomplished this, I’m tempted to wipe my phone to get rid of the iOS beta and start fresh and forget screwing with betas since that messes up doing backups, etc.
 
 
 
Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
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Re: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

2024-02-14 Thread Richard Turner
Sieghard, you may have something there. Because you installed WALTRPro after those other apps, perhaps it works better that way. I don't want to risk uninstalling WALTRpro just yet because I'm not sure I'll not lose my ability to stick with this version. I frankly do not trust Softorino that much. Fi will revisit that when iTunes is done. But, it works fine right now. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Feb 13, 2024, at 11:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Richard, as I said in my earlier email, I had no issues with Waltr Pro and I had the 3 new apps installed to begin with. I should mention that I don't think I ever had iTunes installed on this
 laptop or maybe I did at some point and I had uninstalled it, but if you have issues with Waltr Pro I assume it has to do with some conflict between iTunes and the new apps. Also, did you install all 3, Apple Music, Apple TV and Apple Devices? Apple support
 clearly states you have to install all 3 apps and once you do iTunes is only good for Podcasts and Audio Books although I assume at some point Apple may release a fourth app for this purpose at which point iTunes will then be entirely discontinued at least
 for newer computers. I assume it will stay around for some time for older computers since there are still a lot of Windows 7 computers out there and you can't run these new apps on a Windows 7 computer, only Windows 10 and 11.
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 5:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution


 
Yes, the Apple Music interface is very accessible. It just screws things up if you are using something like WALTRPRO. 

And, at this point, there is nothing for syncing ringtones if you ever want to add a ringtone other than posibly using Garage Band and Ringtone Maker that Sieghard posted the other day. 




Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 












On Feb 13, 2024, at 4:20 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:




 

Just as an FYI, but Apple Music’s web interface is pretty accessible.
 

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution


 
Hi Richard, 
 
Wow, what a mess that must have been!  
I was seriously considering using the new Appel Music App.    
So, thank you for the heads up.  
 
Janet  


From:
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On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution


 
I did not realize what a headache I was in for when I installed the Apple Music app.
After that, iTunes only shows Podcasts and audio books.  I have neither.
 
Further more, WALTRPro couldn’t see my iTunes library even though it was in the same place as always.
 
I got realy frustrated and uninstalled the Apple Music app, and Apple Devices app.  I had not yet installed the Apple TV app.
 
I then uninstalled iTunes.
I tried installing iTunes from Microsoft, but when I then ran WALTRPro it said the version of iTunes I have is not compatible I need to download the one from Apple, after uninstalling the Microsoft Store version.
 
I got that uninstalled, and allowed WALTRPro to download the Apple version.
 
I installed that, and miracle of miracles, my library is back in iTunes, with my music.  WALTRPro works again.  And until I am forced to change, this is the setup I am sticking with.  It is far, far easier to sync zip files of audio books
 to my iPhone or iPad to use with Voice Dream Reader using WALTRPro than with iTunes.  That is almost all I use WALTRPro for.  Sometimes to sync an eBook or another file to Voice Dream Reader.
 
Now that I have accomplished this, I’m tempted to wipe my phone to get rid of the iOS beta and start fresh and forget screwing with betas since that messes up doing backups, etc.
 
 
 
Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 
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RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

2024-02-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Richard, you could just turn off Beta downloads and then wait the 3 or 4 weeks 
until iOS 17.4 is released to the public. At that point you will get the 
official iOS 17.4 version and you'll be out of the Beta program.
I decided for now to also stop using Betas as I am going to the Philippines for 
a few weeks fairly soon and I won't always have good internet connections and 
just don't want to deal with often weekly Beta updates so I did what I 
described above just before iOS 17.3 was officially released. When it did come 
out for the public I had the upddate just as everybody else, now I just had 
that small iOS 17.3.1 update Apple released, but otherwise I am off the beta 
program for now. It's a lot easier than completely resetting your phone.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

I did not realize what a headache I was in for when I installed the Apple Music 
app.
After that, iTunes only shows Podcasts and audio books.  I have neither.

Further more, WALTRPro couldn’t see my iTunes library even though it was in the 
same place as always.

I got realy frustrated and uninstalled the Apple Music app, and Apple Devices 
app.  I had not yet installed the Apple TV app.

I then uninstalled iTunes.
I tried installing iTunes from Microsoft, but when I then ran WALTRPro it said 
the version of iTunes I have is not compatible I need to download the one from 
Apple, after uninstalling the Microsoft Store version.

I got that uninstalled, and allowed WALTRPro to download the Apple version.

I installed that, and miracle of miracles, my library is back in iTunes, with 
my music.  WALTRPro works again.  And until I am forced to change, this is the 
setup I am sticking with.  It is far, far easier to sync zip files of audio 
books to my iPhone or iPad to use with Voice Dream Reader using WALTRPro than 
with iTunes.  That is almost all I use WALTRPro for.  Sometimes to sync an 
eBook or another file to Voice Dream Reader.

Now that I have accomplished this, I’m tempted to wipe my phone to get rid of 
the iOS beta and start fresh and forget screwing with betas since that messes 
up doing backups, etc.



Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

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RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

2024-02-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Richard, as I said in my earlier email, I had no issues with Waltr Pro and I 
had the 3 new apps installed to begin with. I should mention that I don't think 
I ever had iTunes installed on this laptop or maybe I did at some point and I 
had uninstalled it, but if you have issues with Waltr Pro I assume it has to do 
with some conflict between iTunes and the new apps. Also, did you install all 
3, Apple Music, Apple TV and Apple Devices? Apple support clearly states you 
have to install all 3 apps and once you do iTunes is only good for Podcasts and 
Audio Books although I assume at some point Apple may release a fourth app for 
this purpose at which point iTunes will then be entirely discontinued at least 
for newer computers. I assume it will stay around for some time for older 
computers since there are still a lot of Windows 7 computers out there and you 
can't run these new apps on a Windows 7 computer, only Windows 10 and 11.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 5:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

Yes, the Apple Music interface is very accessible. It just screws things up if 
you are using something like WALTRPRO.
And, at this point, there is nothing for syncing ringtones if you ever want to 
add a ringtone other than posibly using Garage Band and Ringtone Maker that 
Sieghard posted the other day.
Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/





On Feb 13, 2024, at 4:20 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

Just as an FYI, but Apple Music’s web interface is pretty accessible.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

Hi Richard,

Wow, what a mess that must have been!
I was seriously considering using the new Appel Music App.
So, thank you for the heads up.

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

I did not realize what a headache I was in for when I installed the Apple Music 
app.
After that, iTunes only shows Podcasts and audio books.  I have neither.

Further more, WALTRPro couldn’t see my iTunes library even though it was in the 
same place as always.

I got realy frustrated and uninstalled the Apple Music app, and Apple Devices 
app.  I had not yet installed the Apple TV app.

I then uninstalled iTunes.
I tried installing iTunes from Microsoft, but when I then ran WALTRPro it said 
the version of iTunes I have is not compatible I need to download the one from 
Apple, after uninstalling the Microsoft Store version.

I got that uninstalled, and allowed WALTRPro to download the Apple version.

I installed that, and miracle of miracles, my library is back in iTunes, with 
my music.  WALTRPro works again.  And until I am forced to change, this is the 
setup I am sticking with.  It is far, far easier to sync zip files of audio 
books to my iPhone or iPad to use with Voice Dream Reader using WALTRPro than 
with iTunes.  That is almost all I use WALTRPro for.  Sometimes to sync an 
eBook or another file to Voice Dream Reader.

Now that I have accomplished this, I’m tempted to wipe my phone to get rid of 
the iOS beta and start fresh and forget screwing with betas since that messes 
up doing backups, etc.



Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

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RE: Apple Music for Windows and WALTRPro, no joy

2024-02-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Richard, I have Apple Music, Apple TV and Apple Devices on my laptop and 
recently tried Waltr Pro and in fact I did subscribe for a month just so I 
could quickly get all my dozens of tones back on my phone after setting it up 
as a new device and it all worked fine. After I installed Waltr Pro I was 
prompted to install the Apple Mobile Device driver or drivers and I allowed 
this. I think maybe one thing which may be the issue is the fact you have 
iTunes on your computer as well as you installed Apple Music, I don't think 
those two can live together without a fight even though they are both Apple 
programs. I even seem to remember that when I installed Apple Music I was 
warned that if I wanted to use iTunes I had to uninstalle Apple Music again 
first.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I know WALTRPro has been discussed lately, and I’ve used it since it was in 
beta.
Now, I get a crash report whenever I launch it.
I’m guessing, and it is only a guess, that it may have something to do with the 
fact that iTunes now is not accessing my library; Apple Music is.

I may take a shot at uninstalling Apple Music and see what happens… but not 
immediately.  I sent in the crash report to WALTRPro, so we shall see if they 
respond in any way.


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Re: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

2024-02-13 Thread Richard Turner
Yes, the Apple Music interface is very accessible. It just screws things up if you are using something like WALTRPRO. And, at this point, there is nothing for syncing ringtones if you ever want to add a ringtone other than posibly using Garage Band and Ringtone Maker that Sieghard posted the other day. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Feb 13, 2024, at 4:20 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:







Just as an FYI, but Apple Music’s web interface is pretty accessible.
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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Subject: RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution


 
Hi Richard, 
 
Wow, what a mess that must have been!  
I was seriously considering using the new Appel Music App.    
So, thank you for the heads up.  
 
Janet  


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Subject: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution


 
I did not realize what a headache I was in for when I installed the Apple Music app.
After that, iTunes only shows Podcasts and audio books.  I have neither.
 
Further more, WALTRPro couldn’t see my iTunes library even though it was in the same place as always.
 
I got realy frustrated and uninstalled the Apple Music app, and Apple Devices app.  I had not yet installed the Apple TV app.
 
I then uninstalled iTunes.
I tried installing iTunes from Microsoft, but when I then ran WALTRPro it said the version of iTunes I have is not compatible I need to download the one from Apple, after uninstalling the Microsoft Store version.
 
I got that uninstalled, and allowed WALTRPro to download the Apple version.
 
I installed that, and miracle of miracles, my library is back in iTunes, with my music.  WALTRPro works again.  And until I am forced to change, this is the setup I am sticking with.  It is far, far easier to sync zip files of audio books
 to my iPhone or iPad to use with Voice Dream Reader using WALTRPro than with iTunes.  That is almost all I use WALTRPro for.  Sometimes to sync an eBook or another file to Voice Dream Reader.
 
Now that I have accomplished this, I’m tempted to wipe my phone to get rid of the iOS beta and start fresh and forget screwing with betas since that messes up doing backups, etc.
 
 
 
Richard, USA
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RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

2024-02-13 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Just as an FYI, but Apple Music's web interface is pretty accessible.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 5:52 PM
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Subject: RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

Hi Richard,

Wow, what a mess that must have been!
I was seriously considering using the new Appel Music App.
So, thank you for the heads up.

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

I did not realize what a headache I was in for when I installed the Apple Music 
app.
After that, iTunes only shows Podcasts and audio books.  I have neither.

Further more, WALTRPro couldn't see my iTunes library even though it was in the 
same place as always.

I got realy frustrated and uninstalled the Apple Music app, and Apple Devices 
app.  I had not yet installed the Apple TV app.

I then uninstalled iTunes.
I tried installing iTunes from Microsoft, but when I then ran WALTRPro it said 
the version of iTunes I have is not compatible I need to download the one from 
Apple, after uninstalling the Microsoft Store version.

I got that uninstalled, and allowed WALTRPro to download the Apple version.

I installed that, and miracle of miracles, my library is back in iTunes, with 
my music.  WALTRPro works again.  And until I am forced to change, this is the 
setup I am sticking with.  It is far, far easier to sync zip files of audio 
books to my iPhone or iPad to use with Voice Dream Reader using WALTRPro than 
with iTunes.  That is almost all I use WALTRPro for.  Sometimes to sync an 
eBook or another file to Voice Dream Reader.

Now that I have accomplished this, I'm tempted to wipe my phone to get rid of 
the iOS beta and start fresh and forget screwing with betas since that messes 
up doing backups, etc.



Richard, USA
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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it."
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RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

2024-02-13 Thread janet gross
Hi Richard,

Wow, what a mess that must have been!
I was seriously considering using the new Appel Music App.
So, thank you for the heads up.

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

I did not realize what a headache I was in for when I installed the Apple Music 
app.
After that, iTunes only shows Podcasts and audio books.  I have neither.

Further more, WALTRPro couldn't see my iTunes library even though it was in the 
same place as always.

I got realy frustrated and uninstalled the Apple Music app, and Apple Devices 
app.  I had not yet installed the Apple TV app.

I then uninstalled iTunes.
I tried installing iTunes from Microsoft, but when I then ran WALTRPro it said 
the version of iTunes I have is not compatible I need to download the one from 
Apple, after uninstalling the Microsoft Store version.

I got that uninstalled, and allowed WALTRPro to download the Apple version.

I installed that, and miracle of miracles, my library is back in iTunes, with 
my music.  WALTRPro works again.  And until I am forced to change, this is the 
setup I am sticking with.  It is far, far easier to sync zip files of audio 
books to my iPhone or iPad to use with Voice Dream Reader using WALTRPro than 
with iTunes.  That is almost all I use WALTRPro for.  Sometimes to sync an 
eBook or another file to Voice Dream Reader.

Now that I have accomplished this, I'm tempted to wipe my phone to get rid of 
the iOS beta and start fresh and forget screwing with betas since that messes 
up doing backups, etc.



Richard, USA
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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it."
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RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

2024-02-13 Thread Richard Turner
I’m glad my pain did some good !

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

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I cannot thank you enough for sharing your experience with us, I was 
contemplating doing exactly wat you have done, you have saved me a lot of 
trouble, like you I’ll leave well alone.

Malcolm Parfitt





On 13 Feb 2024, at 8:35 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



I did not realize what a headache I was in for when I installed the Apple Music 
app.

After that, iTunes only shows Podcasts and audio books.  I have neither.

 

Further more, WALTRPro couldn’t see my iTunes library even though it was in the 
same place as always.

 

I got realy frustrated and uninstalled the Apple Music app, and Apple Devices 
app.  I had not yet installed the Apple TV app.

 

I then uninstalled iTunes.

I tried installing iTunes from Microsoft, but when I then ran WALTRPro it said 
the version of iTunes I have is not compatible I need to download the one from 
Apple, after uninstalling the Microsoft Store version.

 

I got that uninstalled, and allowed WALTRPro to download the Apple version.

 

I installed that, and miracle of miracles, my library is back in iTunes, with 
my music.  WALTRPro works again.  And until I am forced to change, this is the 
setup I am sticking with.  It is far, far easier to sync zip files of audio 
books to my iPhone or iPad to use with Voice Dream Reader using WALTRPro than 
with iTunes.  That is almost all I use WALTRPro for.  Sometimes to sync an 
eBook or another file to Voice Dream Reader.

 

Now that I have accomplished this, I’m tempted to wipe my phone to get rid of 
the iOS beta and start fresh and forget screwing with betas since that messes 
up doing backups, etc.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

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Re: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

2024-02-13 Thread Malcolm Parfitt
I cannot thank you enough for sharing your experience with us, I was contemplating doing exactly wat you have done, you have saved me a lot of trouble, like you I’ll leave well alone.Malcolm ParfittOn 13 Feb 2024, at 8:35 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:I did not realize what a headache I was in for when I installed the Apple Music app.After that, iTunes only shows Podcasts and audio books.  I have neither. Further more, WALTRPro couldn’t see my iTunes library even though it was in the same place as always. I got realy frustrated and uninstalled the Apple Music app, and Apple Devices app.  I had not yet installed the Apple TV app. I then uninstalled iTunes.I tried installing iTunes from Microsoft, but when I then ran WALTRPro it said the version of iTunes I have is not compatible I need to download the one from Apple, after uninstalling the Microsoft Store version. I got that uninstalled, and allowed WALTRPro to download the Apple version. I installed that, and miracle of miracles, my library is back in iTunes, with my music.  WALTRPro works again.  And until I am forced to change, this is the setup I am sticking with.  It is far, far easier to sync zip files of audio books to my iPhone or iPad to use with Voice Dream Reader using WALTRPro than with iTunes.  That is almost all I use WALTRPro for.  Sometimes to sync an eBook or another file to Voice Dream Reader. Now that I have accomplished this, I’m tempted to wipe my phone to get rid of the iOS beta and start fresh and forget screwing with betas since that messes up doing backups, etc.   Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400  



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WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

2024-02-13 Thread Richard Turner
I did not realize what a headache I was in for when I installed the Apple
Music app.

After that, iTunes only shows Podcasts and audio books.  I have neither.

 

Further more, WALTRPro couldn't see my iTunes library even though it was in
the same place as always.

 

I got realy frustrated and uninstalled the Apple Music app, and Apple
Devices app.  I had not yet installed the Apple TV app.

 

I then uninstalled iTunes.

I tried installing iTunes from Microsoft, but when I then ran WALTRPro it
said the version of iTunes I have is not compatible I need to download the
one from Apple, after uninstalling the Microsoft Store version.

 

I got that uninstalled, and allowed WALTRPro to download the Apple version.

 

I installed that, and miracle of miracles, my library is back in iTunes,
with my music.  WALTRPro works again.  And until I am forced to change, this
is the setup I am sticking with.  It is far, far easier to sync zip files of
audio books to my iPhone or iPad to use with Voice Dream Reader using
WALTRPro than with iTunes.  That is almost all I use WALTRPro for.
Sometimes to sync an eBook or another file to Voice Dream Reader.

 

Now that I have accomplished this, I'm tempted to wipe my phone to get rid
of the iOS beta and start fresh and forget screwing with betas since that
messes up doing backups, etc.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

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RE: Apple Music for Windows and WALTRPro, no joy

2024-02-13 Thread Richard Turner
It is a program that allows you to put things like music, zip files, whatever 
you want on your Apple device with less hassle than iTunes, though iTunes needs 
to be installed.

So, I am just guessing here that since iTunes doesn’t see the library the same 
way, neither does WALTRPro.  I got a lifetime subscription when the app was in 
beta.  A year or so later, they turned it into a subscription to gain access to 
all their software, though I think they offer a one time subscription for life 
for something like $300 which frankly isn’t worth it in my opinion.  I 
personally don’t think the subscription is worth it, though someone on this or 
the BlindApples list has it through the subscription and finds it useful.

 

I mostly use it for zip files of audio books to get them into Voice Dream.  I 
can just go back to using Dropbox for that.  Though it is a bit slower.

 

That was more than you wanted to know, I’m sure, .

 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

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Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Timothy 
Emmons
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music for Windows and WALTRPro, no joy

 

Richard, what is WALTER Pro. Just curious.

Sent from my iPhone





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I know WALTRPro has been discussed lately, and I’ve used it since it was in 
beta.

Now, I get a crash report whenever I launch it.

I’m guessing, and it is only a guess, that it may have something to do with the 
fact that iTunes now is not accessing my library; Apple Music is.

 

I may take a shot at uninstalling Apple Music and see what happens… but not 
immediately.  I sent in the crash report to WALTRPro, so we shall see if they 
respond in any way.

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

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Re: Apple Music for Windows and WALTRPro, no joy

2024-02-13 Thread Timothy Emmons
Richard, what is WALTER Pro. Just curious.Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 13, 2024, at 11:26 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:  I know WALTRPro has been discussed lately, and I’ve used it since it was in beta.Now, I get a crash report whenever I launch it.I’m guessing, and it is only a guess, that it may have something to do with the fact that iTunes now is not accessing my library; Apple Music is. I may take a shot at uninstalling Apple Music and see what happens… but not immediately.  I sent in the crash report to WALTRPro, so we shall see if they respond in any way.  Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400  



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Apple Music for Windows and WALTRPro, no joy

2024-02-13 Thread Richard Turner
 

 

I know WALTRPro has been discussed lately, and I've used it since it was in
beta.

Now, I get a crash report whenever I launch it.

I'm guessing, and it is only a guess, that it may have something to do with
the fact that iTunes now is not accessing my library; Apple Music is.

 

I may take a shot at uninstalling Apple Music and see what happens. but not
immediately.  I sent in the crash report to WALTRPro, so we shall see if
they respond in any way.

 

 

Richard, USA

"Grandma always told us, "Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores
it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get
it."

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

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RE: Apple Music for Windows user guide from Apple

2024-02-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello Richard,

The magic word is “touch cursor”. Here is Jaws speech history from where I 
press Control + Comma (of course that is the punctuation symbol not the word, I 
tab to “Files” expand the “Media folder location“ and then switche to the touch 
cursor which allows me to hear my library’s location. As for the other 
categories or tabs, only the first one, General, automatically speaks the 
explanation, for the other ones you can also switch to the touch cursor and 
arrow left twice to hear the explanation, then I switch back to the PC cursor 
and tab on to the next one and repeat. Here it goes::

I press Control + Comma:
Settings, General, Library name, choose how to show lists, and more  Button 
(Jaws is automatically focused on that. I press tab:
Playback Button, I switch to touch cursor and arrow right twice: touch, How to 
fade songs in and out, change music sound quality during playback, and more. I 
switch back to PC and tab again
Restrictions Button, touch, Turn content & privacy restrictions on or off, 
Double tap to activate the PC cursor, PC
Files Button, touch, Organize your Media folder, Double tap to activate the PC 
cursor, PC
Advanced Button, touch, Automatically download album artwork, control 
MiniPlayer and video playback windows, and more, Double tap to activate the PC 
cursor, PC
Help Link

Now back to Files which I activate by pressing enter:
Files Settings, Media folder location, Media folder location collapsed
I press spacebar to expand this, then I switch to the touch cursor and arrow 
right:
Touch, Media folder location, Select the Media folder location, where songs and 
other files you import are located
C:\Users\siegh\OneDrive\Music\Apple Music\Media
I press tab and get the "Change button" which would let me change the location
You could also tab once first to the "Change" button, then turn on the touch 
cursor and arrow left once to hear the media folder location.
Tab again and you get "Reset button"
Tab again and you get "Keep Media folder organized, not checked", you can 
switch to touch here and arrow to read:
Places files into album and artist folders, and names the files based on the 
disc number, track number, and song title
Finally a last tab gets you to a "Back button" which takes you out of the Files 
category/tab and back into the main settings tab.

All Apple has to do is add the ability to copy/sync Tones through the Apple 
Devices app and come out with an app for Podcasts and Books and iTunes can go 
Bye-bye.

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Turner
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 11:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Music for Windows user guide from Apple

For anyone who downloads Apple Music for Windows, here is a link to the user 
guide.
So far, the only accessibility issue I have come across in the settings is on 
Settings, File, there is a box with the location of your library.  No screen 
reader will read the path.  So I thought it might be blank.  Fortunately, my 
sighted wife was around so I asked her to check.  Sure enough, my default 
library location was there, so I didn’t need to change it, or risk messing it 
up…

https://support.apple.com/guide/devices-windows/syncing-overview-mchl923c1147/1.4/windows/10

HTH,
Richard, USA
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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
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Apple Music for Windows user guide from Apple

2024-02-10 Thread Richard Turner
For anyone who downloads Apple Music for Windows, here is a link to the user
guide.

So far, the only accessibility issue I have come across in the settings is
on Settings, File, there is a box with the location of your library.  No
screen reader will read the path.  So I thought it might be blank.
Fortunately, my sighted wife was around so I asked her to check.  Sure
enough, my default library location was there, so I didn't need to change
it, or risk messing it up.

 

https://support.apple.com/guide/devices-windows/syncing-overview-mchl923c114
7/1.4/windows/10

 

HTH,

Richard, USA

"Grandma always told us, "Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores
it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get
it."

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

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Re: A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding Apple Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle Games

2023-11-01 Thread William James
You get two new puzzles every day.  One is a mini puzzle that usually has five or six clues across and same for down.  The number of squares range from three to five.  You also have a regular puzzle like you would find elsewhere online.  The puzzles stay, so you can come back and solve them at your leisure.  You can also switch from your phone to your iPad and pick up your puzzle where you left off.  You need to tell your device you want to sync your progress.Sent from my iPad Air 5On Nov 1, 2023, at 10:45 AM, paekstr...@gmail.com wrote:Thanks.  Does it come with a preset number of puzzles, or are new ones supplied weekly or something?   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of William JamesSent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 11:50 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding Apple Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle Games That is correct.  Apple News Plus is where you can find the accessible crossword puzzles.  I believe you can get a trial for a month.  I recently got this iPad Air 5 so I got three months free.  If you are with Verizon, I think they may have some offerings for Apple’s subscription services.  Check with them.Sent from my iPad Air 5On Oct 31, 2023, at 10:28 AM, Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> wrote:He mentioned News Plus, which is the Apple News S\paid subscription.I don't subscribe so am just basing that on the use of the name "News Plus."Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the UniverseMy web site: https://www.turner42.com-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of paekstr...@gmail.comSent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 7:08 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding Apple Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle GamesDo you have a link for the accessible crossword puzzles?  I can't seem to find it.Thanks,Pam-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of William JamesSent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 12:43 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding Apple Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle GamesHi Mark,I can answer your second question.VoiceOver works really well with the crossword puzzles.  At least in 17.1, they worked really good.  I have filed a bug report with iOS 17.2 already so hopefully it will get fixed.I recommend choosing list view.  This way you can get at the clues easier than you can in grid view.  VoiceOver will let you go from one space to another by swiping to the right.  For example, if you have a clue that has four letters, you will actually see five spaces instead of four.  The first one lets you solve the word by typing it in.  If you need to correct a letter, You can swipe to that letter you want to correct and double tap on it and replace it with the letter you meant to type in.You have crossword mini and a full crossword.  The New York Times is cheaper than Apple News Plus, but last I checked, it was not accessible.Hope this helps.Sent from my iPad Air 5On Oct 29, 2023, at 7:33 PM, M. Taylor <markthew...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello Everyone, So, to those of you who have updated to 17.1: 1.Does VoiceOver now automatically read the lyrics to a song as the song is played? 2.Has anyone played the new News Plus crossword puzzle and, if so, were you able to make any sense of how the puzzle is solved? This is the first time, in many years, that I want to update to the latest iOS but am holding off do so because of the continuing issues that have been reported.  At some point, I will just have to take the plunge but for now ... Perhaps 17.2 will fix some VO bugs. All replies greatly appreciated. Mark  --The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/003c01da0ac0%2460796ce0%24216c46a0%24%40gmail.com.--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have

RE: A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding Apple Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle Games

2023-11-01 Thread paekstrand
Thanks.  Does it come with a preset number of puzzles, or are new ones supplied 
weekly or something?  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of William 
James
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 11:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding Apple 
Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle Games

 

That is correct.  Apple News Plus is where you can find the accessible 
crossword puzzles.  I believe you can get a trial for a month.  I recently got 
this iPad Air 5 so I got three months free.  If you are with Verizon, I think 
they may have some offerings for Apple’s subscription services.  Check with 
them.





Sent from my iPad Air 5





On Oct 31, 2023, at 10:28 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

He mentioned News Plus, which is the Apple News S\paid subscription.
I don't subscribe so am just basing that on the use of the name "News Plus."




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

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Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 7:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding Apple 
Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle Games

Do you have a link for the accessible crossword puzzles?  I can't seem to find 
it.

Thanks,
Pam

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William James
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 12:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding Apple 
Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle Games

Hi Mark,

I can answer your second question.

VoiceOver works really well with the crossword puzzles.  At least in 17.1, they 
worked really good.  I have filed a bug report with iOS 17.2 already so 
hopefully it will get fixed.

I recommend choosing list view.  This way you can get at the clues easier than 
you can in grid view.  VoiceOver will let you go from one space to another by 
swiping to the right.  For example, if you have a clue that has four letters, 
you will actually see five spaces instead of four.  The first one lets you 
solve the word by typing it in.  If you need to correct a letter, You can swipe 
to that letter you want to correct and double tap on it and replace it with the 
letter you meant to type in.

You have crossword mini and a full crossword.  The New York Times is cheaper 
than Apple News Plus, but last I checked, it was not accessible.

Hope this helps.
Sent from my iPad Air 5




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Hello Everyone,

 

So, to those of you who have updated to 17.1:

 

1.

Does VoiceOver now automatically read the lyrics to a song as the song 

is played?

 

2.

Has anyone played the new News Plus crossword puzzle and, if so, were 

you able to make any sense of how the puzzle is solved?

 

This is the first time, in many years, that I want to update to the 

latest iOS but am holding off do so because of the continuing issues 

that have been reported.  At some point, I will just have to take the 

plunge but for now ...

 

Perhaps 17.2 will fix some VO bugs.

 

All replies greatly appreciated.

 

Mark

 

 

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RE: A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding Apple Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle Games

2023-10-31 Thread M. Taylor
Thank you for this information, William.

I will file it away for when I, hopefully, someday soon, update to iOS 17.x.

Mark

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James
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2023 9:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding Apple 
Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle Games

Hi Mark,

I can answer your second question.

VoiceOver works really well with the crossword puzzles.  At least in 17.1, they 
worked really good.  I have filed a bug report with iOS 17.2 already so 
hopefully it will get fixed.

I recommend choosing list view.  This way you can get at the clues easier than 
you can in grid view.  VoiceOver will let you go from one space to another by 
swiping to the right.  For example, if you have a clue that has four letters, 
you will actually see five spaces instead of four.  The first one lets you 
solve the word by typing it in.  If you need to correct a letter, You can swipe 
to that letter you want to correct and double tap on it and replace it with the 
letter you meant to type in.

You have crossword mini and a full crossword.  The New York Times is cheaper 
than Apple News Plus, but last I checked, it was not accessible.

Hope this helps.
Sent from my iPad Air 5

> On Oct 29, 2023, at 7:33 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> So, to those of you who have updated to 17.1:
> 
> 1.
> Does VoiceOver now automatically read the lyrics to a song as the song 
> is played?
> 
> 2.
> Has anyone played the new News Plus crossword puzzle and, if so, were 
> you able to make any sense of how the puzzle is solved?
> 
> This is the first time, in many years, that I want to update to the 
> latest iOS but am holding off do so because of the continuing issues 
> that have been reported.  At some point, I will just have to take the 
> plunge but for now ...
> 
> Perhaps 17.2 will fix some VO bugs.
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding Apple Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle Games

2023-10-31 Thread William James
That is correct.  Apple News Plus is where you can find the accessible 
crossword puzzles.  I believe you can get a trial for a month.  I recently got 
this iPad Air 5 so I got three months free.  If you are with Verizon, I think 
they may have some offerings for Apple’s subscription services.  Check with 
them.

Sent from my iPad Air 5

> On Oct 31, 2023, at 10:28 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> He mentioned News Plus, which is the Apple News S\paid subscription.
> I don't subscribe so am just basing that on the use of the name "News Plus."
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> paekstr...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 7:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding 
> Apple Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle Games
> 
> Do you have a link for the accessible crossword puzzles?  I can't seem to 
> find it.
> 
> Thanks,
> Pam
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> William James
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 12:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding 
> Apple Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle Games
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> I can answer your second question.
> 
> VoiceOver works really well with the crossword puzzles.  At least in 17.1, 
> they worked really good.  I have filed a bug report with iOS 17.2 already so 
> hopefully it will get fixed.
> 
> I recommend choosing list view.  This way you can get at the clues easier 
> than you can in grid view.  VoiceOver will let you go from one space to 
> another by swiping to the right.  For example, if you have a clue that has 
> four letters, you will actually see five spaces instead of four.  The first 
> one lets you solve the word by typing it in.  If you need to correct a 
> letter, You can swipe to that letter you want to correct and double tap on it 
> and replace it with the letter you meant to type in.
> 
> You have crossword mini and a full crossword.  The New York Times is cheaper 
> than Apple News Plus, but last I checked, it was not accessible.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> Sent from my iPad Air 5
> 
>> On Oct 29, 2023, at 7:33 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> So, to those of you who have updated to 17.1:
>> 
>> 1.
>> Does VoiceOver now automatically read the lyrics to a song as the song
>> is played?
>> 
>> 2.
>> Has anyone played the new News Plus crossword puzzle and, if so, were
>> you able to make any sense of how the puzzle is solved?
>> 
>> This is the first time, in many years, that I want to update to the
>> latest iOS but am holding off do so because of the continuing issues
>> that have been reported.  At some point, I will just have to take the
>> plunge but for now ...
>> 
>> Perhaps 17.2 will fix some VO bugs.
>> 
>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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RE: A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding Apple Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle Games

2023-10-31 Thread Richard Turner
He mentioned News Plus, which is the Apple News S\paid subscription.
I don't subscribe so am just basing that on the use of the name "News Plus."




Richard, USA.
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paekstr...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 7:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding Apple 
Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle Games

Do you have a link for the accessible crossword puzzles?  I can't seem to find 
it.

Thanks,
Pam

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of William 
James
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 12:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding Apple 
Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle Games

Hi Mark,

I can answer your second question.

VoiceOver works really well with the crossword puzzles.  At least in 17.1, they 
worked really good.  I have filed a bug report with iOS 17.2 already so 
hopefully it will get fixed.

I recommend choosing list view.  This way you can get at the clues easier than 
you can in grid view.  VoiceOver will let you go from one space to another by 
swiping to the right.  For example, if you have a clue that has four letters, 
you will actually see five spaces instead of four.  The first one lets you 
solve the word by typing it in.  If you need to correct a letter, You can swipe 
to that letter you want to correct and double tap on it and replace it with the 
letter you meant to type in.

You have crossword mini and a full crossword.  The New York Times is cheaper 
than Apple News Plus, but last I checked, it was not accessible.

Hope this helps.
Sent from my iPad Air 5

> On Oct 29, 2023, at 7:33 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> So, to those of you who have updated to 17.1:
> 
> 1.
> Does VoiceOver now automatically read the lyrics to a song as the song 
> is played?
> 
> 2.
> Has anyone played the new News Plus crossword puzzle and, if so, were 
> you able to make any sense of how the puzzle is solved?
> 
> This is the first time, in many years, that I want to update to the 
> latest iOS but am holding off do so because of the continuing issues 
> that have been reported.  At some point, I will just have to take the 
> plunge but for now ...
> 
> Perhaps 17.2 will fix some VO bugs.
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
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RE: A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding Apple Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle Games

2023-10-31 Thread paekstrand
Do you have a link for the accessible crossword puzzles?  I can't seem to find 
it.

Thanks,
Pam

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of William 
James
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 12:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding Apple 
Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle Games

Hi Mark,

I can answer your second question.

VoiceOver works really well with the crossword puzzles.  At least in 17.1, they 
worked really good.  I have filed a bug report with iOS 17.2 already so 
hopefully it will get fixed.

I recommend choosing list view.  This way you can get at the clues easier than 
you can in grid view.  VoiceOver will let you go from one space to another by 
swiping to the right.  For example, if you have a clue that has four letters, 
you will actually see five spaces instead of four.  The first one lets you 
solve the word by typing it in.  If you need to correct a letter, You can swipe 
to that letter you want to correct and double tap on it and replace it with the 
letter you meant to type in.

You have crossword mini and a full crossword.  The New York Times is cheaper 
than Apple News Plus, but last I checked, it was not accessible.

Hope this helps.
Sent from my iPad Air 5

> On Oct 29, 2023, at 7:33 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> So, to those of you who have updated to 17.1:
> 
> 1.
> Does VoiceOver now automatically read the lyrics to a song as the song 
> is played?
> 
> 2.
> Has anyone played the new News Plus crossword puzzle and, if so, were 
> you able to make any sense of how the puzzle is solved?
> 
> This is the first time, in many years, that I want to update to the 
> latest iOS but am holding off do so because of the continuing issues 
> that have been reported.  At some point, I will just have to take the 
> plunge but for now ...
> 
> Perhaps 17.2 will fix some VO bugs.
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding Apple Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle Games

2023-10-30 Thread William James
Hi Mark,

I can answer your second question.

VoiceOver works really well with the crossword puzzles.  At least in 17.1, they 
worked really good.  I have filed a bug report with iOS 17.2 already so 
hopefully it will get fixed.

I recommend choosing list view.  This way you can get at the clues easier than 
you can in grid view.  VoiceOver will let you go from one space to another by 
swiping to the right.  For example, if you have a clue that has four letters, 
you will actually see five spaces instead of four.  The first one lets you 
solve the word by typing it in.  If you need to correct a letter, 
You can swipe to that letter you want to correct and double tap on it and 
replace it with the letter you meant to type in.

You have crossword mini and a full crossword.  The New York Times is cheaper 
than Apple News Plus, but last I checked, it was not accessible.

Hope this helps.
Sent from my iPad Air 5

> On Oct 29, 2023, at 7:33 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> So, to those of you who have updated to 17.1:
> 
> 1.
> Does VoiceOver now automatically read the lyrics to a song as the song is
> played?
> 
> 2.
> Has anyone played the new News Plus crossword puzzle and, if so, were you
> able to make any sense of how the puzzle is solved?
> 
> This is the first time, in many years, that I want to update to the latest
> iOS but am holding off do so because of the continuing issues that have been
> reported.  At some point, I will just have to take the plunge but for now
> ...
> 
> Perhaps 17.2 will fix some VO bugs.
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
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A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding Apple Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle Games

2023-10-29 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

So, to those of you who have updated to 17.1:

1.
Does VoiceOver now automatically read the lyrics to a song as the song is
played?

2.
Has anyone played the new News Plus crossword puzzle and, if so, were you
able to make any sense of how the puzzle is solved?

This is the first time, in many years, that I want to update to the latest
iOS but am holding off do so because of the continuing issues that have been
reported.  At some point, I will just have to take the plunge but for now
...

Perhaps 17.2 will fix some VO bugs.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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Apple Music quietly added one of Spotify’s best features but made it better

2023-08-08 Thread Mary Otten

Apple Music quietly added one of Spotify’s best features but made it better
TechRadar - All the latest technology news


It hasn't officially been announced yet, but Apple Music has a cool new feature 
that's designed to help you discover more music that you'll love. The new 
Discovery Station is live now, which means you can access it through your 
iPhone, iPad and in the web app on your Mac for most Apple Music subscribers.

The new personalized playlist is very similar to the Discovery Weekly feature 
in Spotify, making Apple even more competitive in the best music streaming 
service space. It sits next to 'Your name's' Station, but instead of playing 
music that's already in your library it plays music that it thinks you'll want 
to add to your library.

To access the Discovery Station playlist, go into the Apple Music app, select 
the Listen Now tab and then scroll down till you see the Stations for You 
section, which is where you'll find the new playlist tailored to your listening 
history.

What does the Discovery Station in Apple Music do?

The Discovery Station is an auto-generated playlist that analyzes your 
listening history to suggest new music. For me, that means moving from Lana Del 
Rey remixes I hadn't heard before to Maggie Rogers, Limp Bizkit – I'm blaming 
my eldest for that one – Self Esteem and Miley Cyrus before heading down a 
stadium rock direction.

It does appear to be picking up some songs that are in my library already, and 
I suspect that's because it considers special editions as separate albums. For 
example, it played me U2's The Miracle of Joey Ramone from Songs Of Innocence, 
but from a different version of the album U2 that Apple stuck on my iPod back 
in 2014. Ironically enough, I didn't like the song back then and I don't like 
it any more now.

It's still early days for the Discovery Station and I suspect like most 
algorithmic things it'll improve over time by remembering what you play on 
repeat or skip. At the moment, it appears to be assuming that everything in my 
library is equally good and equally desirable, and as I've had that library for 
decades now that really isn't the case. 

There are bands and artists in there I haven't listened to in years because my 
musical tastes have moved on. And if, like me, you listen to quite a lot of 
genres of music, the jumps between songs can be a bit jarring, such as the 
aforementioned jump from sad girl bangers to nu-metal. But I think it's a good 
station to have on while you do something else, and it's already introduced me 
to a bunch of new favorites.



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Re: A Question for Veteran iOS, iPAD OS Apple Music App VoiceOver Users

2023-08-08 Thread Tom Rash
Also on the Echo device you can say, “play my station on Apple Music.  It will 
play the music you added to tor similar music. 

> On Aug 7, 2023, at 4:59 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> After you have added a few songs to your love list, you can ask Siri to play 
> your personal radio station, and she will begin to play music on and around 
> your love list. I call it a love list, but it is probably more like a “Like” 
> list. It is a little different from Amazon you are right, and I haven’t tried 
> to create smart play lists on my devices, because I just use the personal 
> radio station thing.
> 
> Hope this gives a little feedback,
> 
> Jenn
> Jenn and Kumi 
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2023, at 2:21 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I have been an Amazon Music subscriber for about 2 years, now.  When a song
>> is playing on any Alexa enabled device, I can say, "Alexa, I like this."
>> Alexa will reply with something like, "OK, Mark, got it."  
>> 
>> Later, when I open the Amazon Music app on any device, there is an
>> automatically generated play list called something like "Mark's Favorites."
>> 
>> 
>> I have come to use this feature a great deal and, apparently, have begun
>> taking it for granted.
>> 
>> Now, as part of my Apple One subscription, I have started using my Apple
>> Music app on both my iPhone and iPad.
>> 
>> For the past few days, when various songs were playing, I said, "Siri, I
>> like this."  Just like Alexa, Siri responds with, "got it."  Upon hearing
>> this, I foolishly assumed that, like Alexa, some kind of playlist or station
>> would be populated with a list of the songs I specifically liked, during
>> playback.  Wrong, wrong, wrong
>> 
>> Wow!
>> 
>> After conducting some extremely unsatisfying searches on the net, from what
>> I can tell, no automatically generated playlist is created by Siri.  Then, I
>> read that one can tell Siri to add the currently playing song to a specific
>> playlist.
>> 
>> Then, I read that one can create smart playlists that, in effect, mimic the
>> functionality of Alexa.
>> 
>> Imagine my surprise when I discovered that one cannot create smart playlists
>> via the Apple Music app on iPhone or iPad?  Question: is this true???  If
>> so, it is crazy!!!
>> 
>> So, I am posting this in hopes that someone will correct the info I have
>> obtained or confirming it.  And no, I do not want to create a shortcut in
>> order to create / manipulate playlists.
>> 
>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: A Question for Veteran iOS, iPAD OS Apple Music App VoiceOver Users

2023-08-07 Thread Jennie Facer
Hi Mark,

After you have added a few songs to your love list, you can ask Siri to play 
your personal radio station, and she will begin to play music on and around 
your love list. I call it a love list, but it is probably more like a “Like” 
list. It is a little different from Amazon you are right, and I haven’t tried 
to create smart play lists on my devices, because I just use the personal radio 
station thing.

Hope this gives a little feedback,

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi   

> On Aug 6, 2023, at 2:21 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I have been an Amazon Music subscriber for about 2 years, now.  When a song
> is playing on any Alexa enabled device, I can say, "Alexa, I like this."
> Alexa will reply with something like, "OK, Mark, got it."  
> 
> Later, when I open the Amazon Music app on any device, there is an
> automatically generated play list called something like "Mark's Favorites."
> 
> 
> I have come to use this feature a great deal and, apparently, have begun
> taking it for granted.
> 
> Now, as part of my Apple One subscription, I have started using my Apple
> Music app on both my iPhone and iPad.
> 
> For the past few days, when various songs were playing, I said, "Siri, I
> like this."  Just like Alexa, Siri responds with, "got it."  Upon hearing
> this, I foolishly assumed that, like Alexa, some kind of playlist or station
> would be populated with a list of the songs I specifically liked, during
> playback.  Wrong, wrong, wrong
> 
> Wow!
> 
> After conducting some extremely unsatisfying searches on the net, from what
> I can tell, no automatically generated playlist is created by Siri.  Then, I
> read that one can tell Siri to add the currently playing song to a specific
> playlist.
> 
> Then, I read that one can create smart playlists that, in effect, mimic the
> functionality of Alexa.
> 
> Imagine my surprise when I discovered that one cannot create smart playlists
> via the Apple Music app on iPhone or iPad?  Question: is this true???  If
> so, it is crazy!!!
> 
> So, I am posting this in hopes that someone will correct the info I have
> obtained or confirming it.  And no, I do not want to create a shortcut in
> order to create / manipulate playlists.
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
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A Question for Veteran iOS, iPAD OS Apple Music App VoiceOver Users

2023-08-06 Thread M. Taylor
Hello All,

I have been an Amazon Music subscriber for about 2 years, now.  When a song
is playing on any Alexa enabled device, I can say, "Alexa, I like this."
Alexa will reply with something like, "OK, Mark, got it."  

Later, when I open the Amazon Music app on any device, there is an
automatically generated play list called something like "Mark's Favorites."


I have come to use this feature a great deal and, apparently, have begun
taking it for granted.

Now, as part of my Apple One subscription, I have started using my Apple
Music app on both my iPhone and iPad.

For the past few days, when various songs were playing, I said, "Siri, I
like this."  Just like Alexa, Siri responds with, "got it."  Upon hearing
this, I foolishly assumed that, like Alexa, some kind of playlist or station
would be populated with a list of the songs I specifically liked, during
playback.  Wrong, wrong, wrong

Wow!

After conducting some extremely unsatisfying searches on the net, from what
I can tell, no automatically generated playlist is created by Siri.  Then, I
read that one can tell Siri to add the currently playing song to a specific
playlist.

Then, I read that one can create smart playlists that, in effect, mimic the
functionality of Alexa.

Imagine my surprise when I discovered that one cannot create smart playlists
via the Apple Music app on iPhone or iPad?  Question: is this true???  If
so, it is crazy!!!

So, I am posting this in hopes that someone will correct the info I have
obtained or confirming it.  And no, I do not want to create a shortcut in
order to create / manipulate playlists.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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Re: apple music question

2023-06-17 Thread Robert Doc Wright
I wish I could open music settings. Everytime i try it kicks me back to the 
home screen.
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  Good morning:

   

  I’ve been using apple music for years. Unfortunately, now when I go to 
library, I can’t find  the artist’ list, it goes from Play lists, Albums, 
songs, and skips artists. 

   

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Re: apple music question

2023-06-17 Thread Mary Otten
You need to link your Apple Music account to your Ayy Ladies. That’s done through the app on your phone. I can’t remember the exact steps, but I’m sure if you Google it, you will find it. Once you have it linked, when you ask to play something, you don’t have to specify Apple Music, because you will have set that as your preferred music stores.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 17, 2023, at 10:19 AM, Lelia Struve  wrote:Good morning, this actually goes along with the subject. I have an Alexa, and I am wondering what I need to say to her to have her play the music in my Apple library. Thanks for any help.Lelia Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 17, 2023, at 8:28 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:There should be an edit button in the top right. Double tap that. You can serct and deselect as well as rearrange those categories. It could be Artists was accidently unselected.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 17, 2023, at 7:15 AM, John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  wrote:Please disregard, I figured it out.  From: John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2023 09:53 AMTo: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' Subject: apple music question Good morning: I’ve been using apple music for years. Unfortunately, now when I go to library, I can’t find  the artist’ list, it goes from Play lists, Albums, songs, and skips artists.  Any suggestions? 



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Re: apple music question

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Good morning, this actually goes along with the subject. I have an Alexa, and I am wondering what I need to say to her to have her play the music in my Apple library. Thanks for any help.Lelia Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 17, 2023, at 8:28 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:There should be an edit button in the top right. Double tap that. You can serct and deselect as well as rearrange those categories. It could be Artists was accidently unselected.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 17, 2023, at 7:15 AM, John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  wrote:Please disregard, I figured it out.  From: John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2023 09:53 AMTo: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' Subject: apple music question Good morning: I’ve been using apple music for years. Unfortunately, now when I go to library, I can’t find  the artist’ list, it goes from Play lists, Albums, songs, and skips artists.  Any suggestions? 



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Re: apple music question

2023-06-17 Thread Richard Turner
There should be an edit button in the top right. Double tap that. You can serct and deselect as well as rearrange those categories. It could be Artists was accidently unselected.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 17, 2023, at 7:15 AM, John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  wrote:Please disregard, I figured it out.  From: John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2023 09:53 AMTo: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' Subject: apple music question Good morning: I’ve been using apple music for years. Unfortunately, now when I go to library, I can’t find  the artist’ list, it goes from Play lists, Albums, songs, and skips artists.  Any suggestions? 



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FW: apple music question

2023-06-17 Thread John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Please disregard, I figured it out.

 

 

From: John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2023 09:53 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: apple music question

 

Good morning:

 

I’ve been using apple music for years. Unfortunately, now when I go to library, 
I can’t find  the artist’ list, it goes from Play lists, Albums, songs, and 
skips artists. 

 

Any suggestions? 

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apple music question

2023-06-17 Thread John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Good morning:

 

I’ve been using apple music for years. Unfortunately, now when I go to library, 
I can’t find  the artist’ list, it goes from Play lists, Albums, songs, and 
skips artists. 

 

Any suggestions? 

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RE: apple music?

2023-05-29 Thread Peter Logan
You should be able to go into the app store .. and under subscriptions cancel 
the trial ..


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I asked my new SE 2022 yesterday to open Radio northwest for me and instead 
Ciri opened apple music and played some goofy song I did not want. then I was 
informed that she had signed me up for the 7 day free trial with apple music. I 
do not want apple music, so how do I get away from that supposed free trial of 
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RE: apple music?

2023-05-29 Thread Richard Turner
Open Settings on your iPhone.
At the top, or very near the top, double tap on your name, which is your Apple 
account.
Flick right to subscriptions.
IN there you can cancel any and all subscriptionts.
Note, usually when you cancel a trial, you can still access it for the duration 
of the trial period that is left.

HTH,



Richard, USA.
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My web site: https://www.turner42.com

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Subject: apple music?

I asked my new SE 2022 yesterday to open Radio northwest for me and instead 
Ciri opened apple music and played some goofy song I did not want. then I was 
informed that she had signed me up for the 7 day free trial with apple music. I 
do not want apple music, so how do I get away from that supposed free trial of 
it?

thanks for any assistance in advance,

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apple music?

2023-05-29 Thread 'Dave Mitchel' via VIPhone
I asked my new SE 2022 yesterday to open Radio northwest for me and 
instead Ciri opened apple music and played some goofy song I did not 
want. then I was informed that she had signed me up for the 7 day free 
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Re: Apple Music Classical

2023-04-04 Thread Robin Frost

Hi,

I wasn't indicating it was right or wrong I was merely asking to gain a 
better understanding in case I'd missed something.


In my former set up with a pair of speakers oriented as you described I 
never had any issues with both speakers being connected with the voice 
assistant. It actually did remarkably well responding from the speaker 
to which I was closest or happened to be facing towards.



One can't learn if one doesn't ask.

As for the Hey sonos assistant I had gotten it to start radio stations 
in the past on a Sonos roam hence my surprise when it suddenly seemed 
less able to execute such functionality.


I hope that clarifies.

Robin


On 4/4/2023 12:27 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


I never read anything from Sonos as to what their goal for the Sonos 
voice assistant is, but as far as I am concerned it does a very good 
job with actual Sonos functionality like grouping and ungrouping 
speakers, changing volume and so on and that is fine.


As for picking a speaker in a stereo set I think that is fine and when 
I recently did a new setup of a pair of Sonos One speakers which I 
moved from one room to another, I was also asked to pick a speaker for 
the voice assistant as well as for Alexa. I think it might really be a 
better way to go as it might be confusing if both microphones listen 
and if the speakers are only 6 or 8 feet apart which is pretty 
standard for a stereo pair then it is entirely enough if one speaker 
listens.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Robin Frost

*Sent:* Monday, April 3, 2023 3:06 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Apple Music Classical

Hi,

I haven't looked to see if it's on Apple TV yet but am now intrigued 
so will investigate. I have to agree with sieghard the Hey Sonos voice 
assistant is woefully lacking. Alexa seems to be much more responsive 
to requests in that regard.


I just got some new era300 speakers and noticed the process of adding 
voice assistants differed slightly. It now asks you to decide which 
speaker you want to put the assistant onto. What i can't figure out 
after searching and reading documentation is if you run the setup 
wizard as it were a second time and pick a second speaker in a pair 
does it merely move the assistant from the first to the second speaker 
or can you have it on both as used to be the case with Sonos Ones?


I know this strays from the original topic and I apologize but if 
anyone figures this out I'd love to know.


I'll report back about Apple TV as soon as I discover whether or not 
Apple Classical is on there.


Take good care,

Robin

On 4/3/2023 12:44 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

For what exactly do you use Sonos voice control? I found so far
that it does not seem to work very well for asking it to play a
certain song, artist or album. The only think I really use it for
is to group or ungroup speakers because that works beautifully and
also changing volume and play/pause or skip/rewind is fine.

As for requesting a certain song or artist, Alexa seems to work
better. I have Apple Music set up as my default music service in
the Alexa app so that seems to be a better option when it come sto
requesting specific music.

*From:* 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Monday, April 3, 2023 9:36 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Apple Music Classical

Yes, the airplay work around does work. Although, I have been
spoiled by the air foil and air. Pollo satellite on the Mac. And
of course the voice control on Sonos. I do not have an Apple TV
but I know someone who does use the AppleTV and Sonos throughout
her home and she is very happy with the results.




On Apr 3, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel
 wrote:



Actually I would consider using Airplay to send Apple Music
Classical to Sonos as a perfectly acceptable solution at least
for now.

Given how many music services Sonos supports and the fact that
an Android version of Apple Music Classical is apparently in
the works, I am pretty sure it is just a matter of time until
it will be available natively from Sonos.

Alternatively, hopefully Apple will also release an Apple
    Music Classic app for the Apple TV and if so and if you have a
Sonos surround setup, you could then play it to Sonos from 
your Apple TV.

I just read a post on a Sonos Facebook Group that even though
spacial music/Atmos is now supported by the Sonos app, playing
it from the latest version of the Apple TV 4K apparently is a
big difference in terms of audio quality. Therefore I would
imagine that this might be the same with Apple Music Classical
if it were available both on the Apple TV and natively via the
Sonos app.

*From:* viphone@googlegrou

RE: Apple Music Classical

2023-04-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I never read anything from Sonos as to what their goal for the Sonos voice 
assistant is, but as far as I am concerned it does a very good job with actual 
Sonos functionality like grouping and ungrouping speakers, changing volume and 
so on and that is fine.
As for picking a speaker in a stereo set I think that is fine and when I 
recently did a new setup of a pair of Sonos One speakers which I moved from one 
room to another, I was also asked to pick a speaker for the voice assistant as 
well as for Alexa. I think it might really be a better way to go as it might be 
confusing if both microphones listen and if the speakers are only 6 or 8 feet 
apart which is pretty standard for a stereo pair then it is entirely enough if 
one speaker listens.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 3:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Classical


Hi,

I haven't looked to see if it's on Apple TV yet but am now intrigued so will 
investigate. I have to agree with sieghard the Hey Sonos voice assistant is 
woefully lacking. Alexa seems to be much more responsive to requests in that 
regard.

I just got some new era300 speakers and noticed the process of adding voice 
assistants differed slightly. It now asks you to decide which speaker you want 
to put the assistant onto. What i can't figure out after searching and reading 
documentation is if you run the setup wizard as it were a second time and pick 
a second speaker in a pair does it merely move the assistant from the first to 
the second speaker or can you have it on both as used to be the case with Sonos 
Ones?

I know this strays from the original topic and I apologize but if anyone 
figures this out I'd love to know.

I'll report back about Apple TV as soon as I discover whether or not Apple 
Classical is on there.

Take good care,

Robin


On 4/3/2023 12:44 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
For what exactly do you use Sonos voice control? I found so far that it does 
not seem to work very well for asking it to play a certain song, artist or 
album. The only think I really use it for is to group or ungroup speakers 
because that works beautifully and also changing volume and play/pause or 
skip/rewind is fine.
As for requesting a certain song or artist, Alexa seems to work better. I have 
Apple Music set up as my default music service in the Alexa app so that seems 
to be a better option when it come sto requesting specific music.

From: 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Music Classical

Yes, the airplay work around does work. Although, I have been spoiled by the 
air foil and air. Pollo satellite on the Mac. And of course the voice control 
on Sonos. I do not have an Apple TV but I know someone who does use the AppleTV 
and Sonos throughout her home and she is very happy with the results.



On Apr 3, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Actually I would consider using Airplay to send Apple Music Classical to Sonos 
as a perfectly acceptable solution at least for now.
Given how many music services Sonos supports and the fact that an Android 
version of Apple Music Classical is apparently in the works, I am pretty sure 
it is just a matter of time until it will be available natively from Sonos.
Alternatively, hopefully Apple will also release an Apple Music Classic app for 
the Apple TV and if so and if you have a Sonos surround setup, you could then 
play it to Sonos from  your Apple TV.
I just read a post on a Sonos Facebook Group that even though spacial 
music/Atmos is now supported by the Sonos app, playing it from the latest 
version of the Apple TV 4K apparently is a big difference in terms of audio 
quality. Therefore I would imagine that this might be the same with Apple Music 
Classical if it were available both on the Apple TV and natively via the Sonos 
app.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 9:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Music Classical

Are you able to start music from the app and then use airplay to play it 
throughout your residence? I know that’s not the best workaround and you should 
be able to ask Sonos directly to play from the app.
Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com<mailto:tai.toma...@gmail.com>
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.




On Apr 3, 2023, at 8:07 AM, 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
I am happy with the new classical music app for the most part. It is very 
accessible and searching is easy. The quality is high as you would expect with 
classical music for maximum enjo

Re: Apple Music Classical

2023-04-03 Thread Robin Frost

Hi,

I haven't looked to see if it's on Apple TV yet but am now intrigued so 
will investigate. I have to agree with sieghard the Hey Sonos voice 
assistant is woefully lacking. Alexa seems to be much more responsive to 
requests in that regard.


I just got some new era300 speakers and noticed the process of adding 
voice assistants differed slightly. It now asks you to decide which 
speaker you want to put the assistant onto. What i can't figure out 
after searching and reading documentation is if you run the setup wizard 
as it were a second time and pick a second speaker in a pair does it 
merely move the assistant from the first to the second speaker or can 
you have it on both as used to be the case with Sonos Ones?


I know this strays from the original topic and I apologize but if anyone 
figures this out I'd love to know.


I'll report back about Apple TV as soon as I discover whether or not 
Apple Classical is on there.


Take good care,

Robin


On 4/3/2023 12:44 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


For what exactly do you use Sonos voice control? I found so far that 
it does not seem to work very well for asking it to play a certain 
song, artist or album. The only think I really use it for is to group 
or ungroup speakers because that works beautifully and also changing 
volume and play/pause or skip/rewind is fine.


As for requesting a certain song or artist, Alexa seems to work 
better. I have Apple Music set up as my default music service in the 
Alexa app so that seems to be a better option when it come sto 
requesting specific music.


*From:* 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone 
*Sent:* Monday, April 3, 2023 9:36 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Apple Music Classical

Yes, the airplay work around does work. Although, I have been spoiled 
by the air foil and air. Pollo satellite on the Mac. And of course the 
voice control on Sonos. I do not have an Apple TV but I know someone 
who does use the AppleTV and Sonos throughout her home and she is very 
happy with the results.




On Apr 3, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
wrote:



Actually I would consider using Airplay to send Apple Music
Classical to Sonos as a perfectly acceptable solution at least for
now.

Given how many music services Sonos supports and the fact that an
Android version of Apple Music Classical is apparently in the
works, I am pretty sure it is just a matter of time until it will
be available natively from Sonos.

Alternatively, hopefully Apple will also release an Apple Music
Classic app for the Apple TV and if so and if you have a Sonos
surround setup, you could then play it to Sonos from  your Apple TV.

I just read a post on a Sonos Facebook Group that even though
spacial music/Atmos is now supported by the Sonos app, playing it
from the latest version of the Apple TV 4K apparently is a big
difference in terms of audio quality. Therefore I would imagine
that this might be the same with Apple Music Classical if it were
available both on the Apple TV and natively via the Sonos app.

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On
Behalf Of *Tai Tomasi
*Sent:* Monday, April 3, 2023 9:11 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Apple Music Classical

Are you able to start music from the app and then use airplay to
play it throughout your residence? I know that’s not the best
workaround and you should be able to ask Sonos directly to play
from the app.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com

Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical
errors.




On Apr 3, 2023, at 8:07 AM, 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone
 wrote:

I am happy with the new classical music app for the most
part. It is very accessible and searching is easy. The quality
is high as you would expect with classical music for maximum
enjoyment. The ability to browse by composer, genre, or even
instrument as well as period made for hours of fun over the
weekend.

There are two small hitches that sort of take the shine off
the Apple. And I’m hoping they eventually correct this. I did
call both Apple and Sonos and speak to them in this regard.

First, the app is not currently a supported service of the
Sonos system. While Apple music is easily accessed all over my
residence, the Apple Classical music App needs a workaround to
be channeled through the whole house Sonos system.

Second, while the app is available for the iPhone and iPad
free to anyone who subscribes to Apple Music, Apple has no
plans to put this app in the Mac App Store.

I have an M1 MacBook Pro so had expected to just load it as I
do several iPad apps and use Airfoil as a workaround. That is
a Rogue Amoeba app and works very well with Sonos. However, so

RE: Apple Music Classical

2023-04-03 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
For what exactly do you use Sonos voice control? I found so far that it does 
not seem to work very well for asking it to play a certain song, artist or 
album. The only think I really use it for is to group or ungroup speakers 
because that works beautifully and also changing volume and play/pause or 
skip/rewind is fine.
As for requesting a certain song or artist, Alexa seems to work better. I have 
Apple Music set up as my default music service in the Alexa app so that seems 
to be a better option when it come sto requesting specific music.

From: 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Classical

Yes, the airplay work around does work. Although, I have been spoiled by the 
air foil and air. Pollo satellite on the Mac. And of course the voice control 
on Sonos. I do not have an Apple TV but I know someone who does use the AppleTV 
and Sonos throughout her home and she is very happy with the results.


On Apr 3, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Actually I would consider using Airplay to send Apple Music Classical to Sonos 
as a perfectly acceptable solution at least for now.
Given how many music services Sonos supports and the fact that an Android 
version of Apple Music Classical is apparently in the works, I am pretty sure 
it is just a matter of time until it will be available natively from Sonos.
Alternatively, hopefully Apple will also release an Apple Music Classic app for 
the Apple TV and if so and if you have a Sonos surround setup, you could then 
play it to Sonos from  your Apple TV.
I just read a post on a Sonos Facebook Group that even though spacial 
music/Atmos is now supported by the Sonos app, playing it from the latest 
version of the Apple TV 4K apparently is a big difference in terms of audio 
quality. Therefore I would imagine that this might be the same with Apple Music 
Classical if it were available both on the Apple TV and natively via the Sonos 
app.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 9:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Music Classical

Are you able to start music from the app and then use airplay to play it 
throughout your residence? I know that’s not the best workaround and you should 
be able to ask Sonos directly to play from the app.
Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com<mailto:tai.toma...@gmail.com>
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.



On Apr 3, 2023, at 8:07 AM, 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
I am happy with the new classical music app for the most part. It is very 
accessible and searching is easy. The quality is high as you would expect with 
classical music for maximum enjoyment. The ability to browse by composer, 
genre, or even instrument as well as period made for hours of fun over the 
weekend.
There are two small hitches that sort of take the shine off the Apple. And I’m 
hoping they eventually correct this. I did call both Apple and Sonos and speak 
to them in this regard.
First, the app is not currently a supported service of the Sonos system. While 
Apple music is easily accessed all over my residence, the Apple Classical music 
App needs a workaround to be channeled through the whole house Sonos system.
Second, while the app is available for the iPhone and iPad free to anyone who 
subscribes to Apple Music, Apple has no plans to put this app in the Mac App 
Store.
I have an M1 MacBook Pro so had expected to just load it as I do several iPad 
apps and use Airfoil as a workaround. That is a Rogue Amoeba app and works very 
well with Sonos. However, so far I have not been able to enjoy the Apple 
Classical App through the whole house system. And I am hoping they correct that 
with a future update either from Sonos or from Apple. Because I absolutely love 
the app.
Merv




On Apr 3, 2023, at 1:46 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Just curious what some of the classical music fans on this list have to say 
about the new app now that it's been out publically for a week. I remember a 
few years ago there was a discussion how bad the regular Apple Music app is 
when it comes to the somewhat different and more complex meta data associated 
with classical music and I just read an article which was extremely positive 
regarding the new app.

Best regards,
Sieghard


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Re: Apple Music Classical

2023-04-03 Thread 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone
Yes, the airplay work around does work. Although, I have been spoiled by the air foil and air. Pollo satellite on the Mac. And of course the voice control on Sonos. I do not have an Apple TV but I know someone who does use the AppleTV and Sonos throughout her home and she is very happy with the results.On Apr 3, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Actually I would consider using Airplay to send Apple Music Classical to Sonos as a perfectly acceptable solution at least for now.
Given how many music services Sonos supports and the fact that an Android version of Apple Music Classical is apparently in the works, I am pretty sure it is just a matter of time until it will be available natively from Sonos.
Alternatively, hopefully Apple will also release an Apple Music Classic app for the Apple TV and if so and if you have a Sonos surround setup, you could then play it to Sonos from  your Apple TV.
I just read a post on a Sonos Facebook Group that even though spacial music/Atmos is now supported by the Sonos app, playing it from the latest version of the Apple TV 4K apparently is a big difference in terms of audio quality. Therefore
 I would imagine that this might be the same with Apple Music Classical if it were available both on the Apple TV and natively via the Sonos app.

 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 9:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Are you able to start music from the app and then use airplay to play it throughout your residence? I know that’s not the best workaround and you should be able to ask Sonos directly to play from the app.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com


Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.







On Apr 3, 2023, at 8:07 AM, 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone  wrote:




I am happy with the new classical music app for the most part. It is very accessible and searching is easy. The quality is high as you would expect with classical music for maximum enjoyment. The ability to browse by composer, genre, or
 even instrument as well as period made for hours of fun over the weekend. 

There are two small hitches that sort of take the shine off the Apple. And I’m hoping they eventually correct this. I did call both Apple and Sonos and speak to them in this regard.


First, the app is not currently a supported service of the Sonos system. While Apple music is easily accessed all over my residence, the Apple Classical music App needs a workaround to be channeled through the whole house Sonos system.


Second, while the app is available for the iPhone and iPad free to anyone who subscribes to Apple Music, Apple has no plans to put this app in the Mac App Store.


I have an M1 MacBook Pro so had expected to just load it as I do several iPad apps and use Airfoil as a workaround. That is a Rogue Amoeba app and works very well with Sonos. However, so far I have not been able to enjoy the Apple Classical
 App through the whole house system. And I am hoping they correct that with a future update either from Sonos or from Apple. Because I absolutely love the app.


Merv


 






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Just curious what some of the classical music fans on this list have to say about the new app now that it's been out publically for a week. I remember a few years ago there was a discussion how bad the regular Apple Music app is when it
 comes to the somewhat different and more complex meta data associated with classical music and I just read an article which was extremely positive regarding the new app.
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 


 

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RE: Apple Music Classical

2023-04-03 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Actually I would consider using Airplay to send Apple Music Classical to Sonos 
as a perfectly acceptable solution at least for now.
Given how many music services Sonos supports and the fact that an Android 
version of Apple Music Classical is apparently in the works, I am pretty sure 
it is just a matter of time until it will be available natively from Sonos.
Alternatively, hopefully Apple will also release an Apple Music Classic app for 
the Apple TV and if so and if you have a Sonos surround setup, you could then 
play it to Sonos from  your Apple TV.
I just read a post on a Sonos Facebook Group that even though spacial 
music/Atmos is now supported by the Sonos app, playing it from the latest 
version of the Apple TV 4K apparently is a big difference in terms of audio 
quality. Therefore I would imagine that this might be the same with Apple Music 
Classical if it were available both on the Apple TV and natively via the Sonos 
app.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 9:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Classical

Are you able to start music from the app and then use airplay to play it 
throughout your residence? I know that’s not the best workaround and you should 
be able to ask Sonos directly to play from the app.
Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.


On Apr 3, 2023, at 8:07 AM, 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone 
 wrote:
I am happy with the new classical music app for the most part. It is very 
accessible and searching is easy. The quality is high as you would expect with 
classical music for maximum enjoyment. The ability to browse by composer, 
genre, or even instrument as well as period made for hours of fun over the 
weekend.
There are two small hitches that sort of take the shine off the Apple. And I’m 
hoping they eventually correct this. I did call both Apple and Sonos and speak 
to them in this regard.
First, the app is not currently a supported service of the Sonos system. While 
Apple music is easily accessed all over my residence, the Apple Classical music 
App needs a workaround to be channeled through the whole house Sonos system.
Second, while the app is available for the iPhone and iPad free to anyone who 
subscribes to Apple Music, Apple has no plans to put this app in the Mac App 
Store.
I have an M1 MacBook Pro so had expected to just load it as I do several iPad 
apps and use Airfoil as a workaround. That is a Rogue Amoeba app and works very 
well with Sonos. However, so far I have not been able to enjoy the Apple 
Classical App through the whole house system. And I am hoping they correct that 
with a future update either from Sonos or from Apple. Because I absolutely love 
the app.
Merv



On Apr 3, 2023, at 1:46 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Just curious what some of the classical music fans on this list have to say 
about the new app now that it's been out publically for a week. I remember a 
few years ago there was a discussion how bad the regular Apple Music app is 
when it comes to the somewhat different and more complex meta data associated 
with classical music and I just read an article which was extremely positive 
regarding the new app.

Best regards,
Sieghard


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2023-04-03 Thread Tai Tomasi
Are you able to start music from the app and then use airplay to play it throughout your residence? I know that’s not the best workaround and you should be able to ask Sonos directly to play from the app.Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.Email: tai.toma...@gmail.comSent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.On Apr 3, 2023, at 8:07 AM, 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone  wrote:I am happy with the new classical music app for the most part. It is very accessible and searching is easy. The quality is high as you would expect with classical music for maximum enjoyment. The ability to browse by composer, genre, or even instrument as well as period made for hours of fun over the weekend. There are two small hitches that sort of take the shine off the Apple. And I’m hoping they eventually correct this. I did call both Apple and Sonos and speak to them in this regard.First, the app is not currently a supported service of the Sonos system. While Apple music is easily accessed all over my residence, the Apple Classical music App needs a workaround to be channeled through the whole house Sonos system.Second, while the app is available for the iPhone and iPad free to anyone who subscribes to Apple Music, Apple has no plans to put this app in the Mac App Store.I have an M1 MacBook Pro so had expected to just load it as I do several iPad apps and use Airfoil as a workaround. That is a Rogue Amoeba app and works very well with Sonos. However, so far I have not been able to enjoy the Apple Classical App through the whole house system. And I am hoping they correct that with a future update either from Sonos or from Apple. Because I absolutely love the app.MervOn Apr 3, 2023, at 1:46 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:






Just curious what some of the classical music fans on this list have to say about the new app now that it's been out publically for a week. I remember a few years ago there was a discussion how bad the regular Apple Music app is when it
 comes to the somewhat different and more complex meta data associated with classical music and I just read an article which was extremely positive regarding the new app. Best regards,Sieghard 



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Re: Apple Music Classical

2023-04-03 Thread 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone
I am happy with the new classical music app for the most part. It is very 
accessible and searching is easy. The quality is high as you would expect with 
classical music for maximum enjoyment. The ability to browse by composer, 
genre, or even instrument as well as period made for hours of fun over the 
weekend. 
There are two small hitches that sort of take the shine off the Apple. And I’m 
hoping they eventually correct this. I did call both Apple and Sonos and speak 
to them in this regard.
First, the app is not currently a supported service of the Sonos system. While 
Apple music is easily accessed all over my residence, the Apple Classical music 
App needs a workaround to be channeled through the whole house Sonos system.
Second, while the app is available for the iPhone and iPad free to anyone who 
subscribes to Apple Music, Apple has no plans to put this app in the Mac App 
Store.
I have an M1 MacBook Pro so had expected to just load it as I do several iPad 
apps and use Airfoil as a workaround. That is a Rogue Amoeba app and works very 
well with Sonos. However, so far I have not been able to enjoy the Apple 
Classical App through the whole house system. And I am hoping they correct that 
with a future update either from Sonos or from Apple. Because I absolutely love 
the app.
Merv


> On Apr 3, 2023, at 1:46 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Just curious what some of the classical music fans on this list have to say 
> about the new app now that it's been out publically for a week. I remember a 
> few years ago there was a discussion how bad the regular Apple Music app is 
> when it comes to the somewhat different and more complex meta data associated 
> with classical music and I just read an article which was extremely positive 
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Re: Apple Music Classical

2023-04-03 Thread Malcolm Parfitt
Hello,I have been using the new Apple Classical app for around a week now.From an accessibility point of view it is perfectly usable just like the regular Music App.  I expected no less from Apple.The search algorithm is vastly improved and copes well with the demands of classical music.  It does come up with spurious results at times, for example I did a search for the tenor Hosé Carreras and it returned a result for another tenor Tito Schipa.  These gentlemen have nothing in common appart from their both renounced tenors.Generally it is an excellent service although from the searches are better handled I have not found the catalogue has been expanded just that it is far easier to find and listen to music of your choice.Malcolm ParfittOn 3 Apr 2023, at 06:46, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Just curious what some of the classical music fans on this list have to say about the new app now that it's been out publically for a week. I remember a few years ago there was a discussion how bad the regular Apple Music app is when it
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Apple Music Classical

2023-04-02 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Just curious what some of the classical music fans on this list have to say 
about the new app now that it's been out publically for a week. I remember a 
few years ago there was a discussion how bad the regular Apple Music app is 
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Re: Apple Music Classical will make its debut soon

2023-03-12 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
I wonder how the app will cope with the very varied ways people pronounce composers' names? Tarrega? Mompou?  Anouar Brahem? HarryOn 12 Mar 2023, at 19:22, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:I pre-ordered the app last week.It’ll be interesting to see whether tracks can be added to a library and if so if they will be added to iTunes library as tracks are now.Malcolm ParfittOn 12 Mar 2023, at 18:58, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







I know a few people on the list seem to like their classical music so hopefully they will be happy with what is coming in a few weeks:
 
Apple Music Classical will give your smartphone some culture on March 28 | Ars Technica
 
 
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Re: Apple Music Classical will make its debut soon

2023-03-12 Thread Malcolm Parfitt
I pre-ordered the app last week.It’ll be interesting to see whether tracks can be added to a library and if so if they will be added to iTunes library as tracks are now.Malcolm ParfittOn 12 Mar 2023, at 18:58, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







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Apple Music Classical will give your smartphone some culture on March 28 | Ars Technica
 
 
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Apple Music Classical will make its debut soon

2023-03-12 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I know a few people on the list seem to like their classical music so hopefully 
they will be happy with what is coming in a few weeks:

Apple Music Classical will give your smartphone some culture on March 28 | Ars 
Technica<https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/03/apple-will-launch-a-new-app-exclusively-for-classical-music-later-this-month/>


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Re: Apple Music

2023-03-05 Thread Alex Stone
Yes she has!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel 
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I believe when you add somebody to Family Sharing they have to accept the 
invitation, has she done this?

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My wife has just created an new Apple ID I added her to family sharing but she 
cannot access my Apple Music on her 12 pro max could someone help me please Alex

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RE: Apple Music

2023-03-05 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
And with Apple Music there is also the difference in subscription, do you have 
a personal Apple Music account or do you have the slightly more expensive Apple 
Music Family account? You need the family version to share.

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My wife has just created an new Apple ID I added her to family sharing but she 
cannot access my Apple Music on her 12 pro max could someone help me please 
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RE: Apple Music

2023-03-05 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I believe when you add somebody to Family Sharing they have to accept the 
invitation, has she done this?

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Stone
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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My wife has just created an new Apple ID I added her to family sharing but she 
cannot access my Apple Music on her 12 pro max could someone help me please 
Alex 

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Re: Apple Music

2023-03-05 Thread Chris Chaffin
Hi,

First question, is your Apple Music a single subscription or family 
subscription?  Your wife would only be able to access it if you have a family 
subscription.
You could check settings under your name, you will find subscriptions, or if 
you know what you pay, single subscription is $10.99, family subscription is 
$16.99.

Chris


> On Mar 4, 2023, at 2:25 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
> My wife has just created an new Apple ID I added her to family sharing but 
> she cannot access my Apple Music on her 12 pro max could someone help me 
> please 
> Alex 
> 
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Apple Music

2023-03-04 Thread Alex Stone
My wife has just created an new Apple ID I added her to family sharing but she 
cannot access my Apple Music on her 12 pro max could someone help me please 
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Re: Apple has released a Windows alternative to iTunes, with new Apple Music, TV, and Devices apps available to preview.

2023-01-19 Thread Richard Turner
You may also want to check with Microsoft accessibility: 800-936-5900
Thanks for jumping in on this.




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> On Jan 19, 2023, at 8:42 PM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> 
> Well, call me the blind daredevil as in the actual daredevil of that actual 
> Marvel comic TV show or I think it was Netflix that had it but anyway, I took 
> a chance and downloaded the three apps for Windows 11, and took them for a 
> little spin and parts of it are accessible, but not enough to make the apps 
> usable. When I tab around past a certain part of each app, nothing speaks, 
> whether I use narrator, jaws, or even NVDA in each app. I will contact Apple 
> accessibility to see who works on the windows, side of things regarding these 
> apps, and see about possibly being a beta tester. If I could, for these apps 
> to make them screen reader, friendly with such input, I mean brain as of 
> right now I cannot get past the Side bar, which is kind of like a collapsible 
> accordion type deal in which you have to arrow down define what you’re 
> looking for and even that doesn’t work and when you enter on say the settings 
> option, nothing happens. so I would like to get in touch with the windows 
> side of things, creator of these apps, and see about providing my feedback 
> there, so I will if by permission keep you guys updated if something were to 
> come out of this if not well at least I could at least give my feedback in 
> general, but it would be a shame for them not to have any screen reader users 
> on board in my opinion, but that’s just my opinion and probably mine alone. 
> Just thought I’d let you all know what’s going on.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2023, at 8:04 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you for posting this, Sieghard.
>> 
>> I saw this and was very intrigued until I learned that the first iterations 
>> do not include clients for audiobooks and a couple of other media types.
>> 
>> Still, I think it is a definite step in the right direction.
>> 
>> Thank you again.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 10:03 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple has released a Windows alternative to iTunes, with new Apple 
>> Music, TV, and Devices apps available to preview.
>> 
>> It looks like the days of iTunes maybe numbered although you need to 
>> remember that for now these are app previews so count maybe on various bugs 
>> and since I have not yet tested any of them I can't speak to their 
>> accessibility. Furthermore the catch they mentioned is that a very recent 
>> version of Windows 11 is required to install and run these apps and for now 
>> apparently you can also only get them in the United States. So before you 
>> order a new Windows 11 computer maybe wait and see what Applevis and other 
>> people report as to the accessibility of these apps. Here is the article:
>> 
>> https://www.imore.com/apple/after-20-years-of-itunes-apple-music-is-finally-on-windows-with-one-major-catch
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
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Re: Apple has released a Windows alternative to iTunes, with new Apple Music, TV, and Devices apps available to preview.

2023-01-19 Thread CHELA Robles
Well, call me the blind daredevil as in the actual daredevil of that actual 
Marvel comic TV show or I think it was Netflix that had it but anyway, I took a 
chance and downloaded the three apps for Windows 11, and took them for a little 
spin and parts of it are accessible, but not enough to make the apps usable. 
When I tab around past a certain part of each app, nothing speaks, whether I 
use narrator, jaws, or even NVDA in each app. I will contact Apple 
accessibility to see who works on the windows, side of things regarding these 
apps, and see about possibly being a beta tester. If I could, for these apps to 
make them screen reader, friendly with such input, I mean brain as of right now 
I cannot get past the Side bar, which is kind of like a collapsible accordion 
type deal in which you have to arrow down define what you’re looking for and 
even that doesn’t work and when you enter on say the settings option, nothing 
happens. so I would like to get in touch with the windows side of things, 
creator of these apps, and see about providing my feedback there, so I will if 
by permission keep you guys updated if something were to come out of this if 
not well at least I could at least give my feedback in general, but it would be 
a shame for them not to have any screen reader users on board in my opinion, 
but that’s just my opinion and probably mine alone. Just thought I’d let you 
all know what’s going on.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 12, 2023, at 8:04 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Thank you for posting this, Sieghard.
> 
> I saw this and was very intrigued until I learned that the first iterations 
> do not include clients for audiobooks and a couple of other media types.
> 
> Still, I think it is a definite step in the right direction.
> 
> Thank you again.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 10:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple has released a Windows alternative to iTunes, with new Apple 
> Music, TV, and Devices apps available to preview.
> 
> It looks like the days of iTunes maybe numbered although you need to remember 
> that for now these are app previews so count maybe on various bugs and since 
> I have not yet tested any of them I can't speak to their accessibility. 
> Furthermore the catch they mentioned is that a very recent version of Windows 
> 11 is required to install and run these apps and for now apparently you can 
> also only get them in the United States. So before you order a new Windows 11 
> computer maybe wait and see what Applevis and other people report as to the 
> accessibility of these apps. Here is the article:
> 
> https://www.imore.com/apple/after-20-years-of-itunes-apple-music-is-finally-on-windows-with-one-major-catch
> 
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
> 
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RE: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad mini

2023-01-15 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Janet, maybe your volume for that tone somehow is turned down way low. I 
understand how people with hearing loss may have problems hearing it since it 
is a relatively low frequency tone, but if somebody has normal or as you say 
excellent hearing then I don't understand how you can miss it unless somehow 
the tone is not working or the volume is  extremely low.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 4:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad 
mini

Hi Mary, 
Amen to that!  I also have an iPhone XR, and I am experiencing the exact same 
problems you are too.  

Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 11:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad 
mini

Hi Mark,
Well, I have been trying to do that, wait and wait some more and then make my 
request. Sometimes it seems to help. Other times it’s crazy. Siri is just not 
very reliable. In terms of launching apps. It will tell me that I don’t have a 
certain nap, maybe twice in a row before finally launching the app. I don’t 
know what they’ve done. Maybe it’s processing the request on the device instead 
of in the cloud. That would certainly make up for some thing maybe, because 
this phone is a 10 R, which is not exactly new. Whatever it is, it’s annoying.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 13, 2023, at 10:15 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> As I do not have an Apple Music subscription, I cannot assist you in 
> resolving your Play List problem.
> 
> However, as far as Siri's seemingly random responses to your spoken requests, 
> I suggest that, after pressing the Siri button on your device, you wait a 
> full second after you hear the audio prompt, before speaking.  If you can get 
> in the habit of doing this, I think you will find that Siri is as consistent 
> as it was in previous versions of the OS.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 9:02 PM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad mini
> 
> The subject line pretty much says it all. I have recently created a couple of 
> playlists on my iPhone XR. They show up there. They show up on my old iPhone 
> 7 Plus. And they play just fine on my Amazon eight devices because they’re 
> linked to Apple Music and I can say play my playlist, XYZ and it works. On my 
> iPad mini six, these playlists are not there. Why the heck not? I just don’t 
> understand what the heck is going on with Apple.
> Between the totally erratic behavior of Siri, half of the time, claiming it 
> doesn’t have an app I want to launch, which I actually have, and the fact 
> that when I say something like launch music, it starts playing some thing I 
> don’t want rather than launching the Music app, I really think iOS 16 is 
> loaded with bugs that need to be stumped and I don’t get it. Come on Apple. 
> We pay big bucks for these phones and iPads. Clean it up!
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad mini

2023-01-14 Thread Mary Otten
Thank you. I knew it would be somewhere, but I hadn’t found it yet. Turned it 
off. Yay!


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 14, 2023, at 6:56 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> There is a setting by the name of auto punctuation for dictation. You can 
> disable it by going to your iPhone settings, general, and keyboard.
> 
> Feliciano
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>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 6:13 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> My problems have not been as serious as yours, Janet. And Siri seems to be 
>> doing so much better on the iPad than on my phone. Although I just now asked 
>> it to launch music, and instead of doing that, it started playing the book I 
>> was reading last night with voice dream reader. I understand how the double 
>> magic tap thing can get confused and play the wrong thing sometimes. But why 
>> Siri thought I wanted to hear a book when I told it to launch the music app 
>> is quite beyond me. Quality control not.  The other annoying thing is the 
>> unwanted an inappropriate insertion of punctuation when you’re dictating. 
>> For instance, in this message, it decided to insert a comma between voice 
>> and dream for voice dream reader. I did not pause. It had no reason to do 
>> that. There must be a setting somewhere that I need to find to shut that 
>> stupid thing off. maybe this will help some people, but I’ve been doing 
>> dictation for a long time, and I know how to pause. So, I hope there’s a 
>> toggle that I just need to find.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 5:40 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary, 
>>> I've never had this problem with either of my phones, until I upgraded to 
>>> this 16.2.  I regret ever upgrading to 16.2!  I've never had so many 
>>> problems with either of my phones until I upgraded to 16.2.  I have a very 
>>> serious problem with my Apple Play lists as well, I disconnected all my 
>>> Bluetooth devices from the phone, and had to reconnect them again.  I can't 
>>> even get Siri to set my alarm clock.  This is nuts!  I upgraded to 16.2, 
>>> and I had to erase my entire phone, I had to rename the phone, I lost all 
>>> my phone calls in my recent folder in the phone app.  I don't know what 
>>> else to do.  I was seriously considering buying the new iPhone 14, but I 
>>> quickly changed my mine.  I can't raise or lower the volume on the phone, 
>>> so when I am talking on the phone, people keep saying they can't hear me, 
>>> and there isn't anything I can do about that either!  
>>> 
>>> Janet 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>>> Otten
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 7:18 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my 
>>> iPad mini
>>> 
>>> Hi Janet,
>>> It’s very interesting about that tone. It seems to me that because I can 
>>> hear it sometimes and not other times, there might be something going on 
>>> with audio ducking. It seems to me like voice over having been speaking, 
>>> just as I pressed the side button to invoke Siri is somehow responsible for 
>>> not hearing the tone. Therefore, I am wondering about that audio ducking. 
>>> The problem does not ever occur with iOS 15 on my old phone and did not 
>>> occur on iOS 15 with this 10 R phone. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 4:29 PM, janet gross  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Sieghard, 
>>>> I have excellent hearing, and this Siri I can not hear the musical tone 
>>>> like I did before I upgraded to 16.2!  I don't know when to ask her a 
>>>> question or not.  As far as I am concerned Siri was broke with 16.2!  
>>>> Janet 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 2:18 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my 
>>>> iPad mini
>>>> 
>>>> I find the main cause right now when Siri misunderstands me is

Re: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad mini

2023-01-14 Thread Feliciano Godoy
Hi,
There is a setting by the name of auto punctuation for dictation. You can 
disable it by going to your iPhone settings, general, and keyboard.

Feliciano
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> On Jan 14, 2023, at 6:13 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> My problems have not been as serious as yours, Janet. And Siri seems to be 
> doing so much better on the iPad than on my phone. Although I just now asked 
> it to launch music, and instead of doing that, it started playing the book I 
> was reading last night with voice dream reader. I understand how the double 
> magic tap thing can get confused and play the wrong thing sometimes. But why 
> Siri thought I wanted to hear a book when I told it to launch the music app 
> is quite beyond me. Quality control not.  The other annoying thing is the 
> unwanted an inappropriate insertion of punctuation when you’re dictating. For 
> instance, in this message, it decided to insert a comma between voice and 
> dream for voice dream reader. I did not pause. It had no reason to do that. 
> There must be a setting somewhere that I need to find to shut that stupid 
> thing off. maybe this will help some people, but I’ve been doing dictation 
> for a long time, and I know how to pause. So, I hope there’s a toggle that I 
> just need to find.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 5:40 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary, 
>> I've never had this problem with either of my phones, until I upgraded to 
>> this 16.2.  I regret ever upgrading to 16.2!  I've never had so many 
>> problems with either of my phones until I upgraded to 16.2.  I have a very 
>> serious problem with my Apple Play lists as well, I disconnected all my 
>> Bluetooth devices from the phone, and had to reconnect them again.  I can't 
>> even get Siri to set my alarm clock.  This is nuts!  I upgraded to 16.2, and 
>> I had to erase my entire phone, I had to rename the phone, I lost all my 
>> phone calls in my recent folder in the phone app.  I don't know what else to 
>> do.  I was seriously considering buying the new iPhone 14, but I quickly 
>> changed my mine.  I can't raise or lower the volume on the phone, so when I 
>> am talking on the phone, people keep saying they can't hear me, and there 
>> isn't anything I can do about that either!  
>> 
>> Janet 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 7:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my 
>> iPad mini
>> 
>> Hi Janet,
>> It’s very interesting about that tone. It seems to me that because I can 
>> hear it sometimes and not other times, there might be something going on 
>> with audio ducking. It seems to me like voice over having been speaking, 
>> just as I pressed the side button to invoke Siri is somehow responsible for 
>> not hearing the tone. Therefore, I am wondering about that audio ducking. 
>> The problem does not ever occur with iOS 15 on my old phone and did not 
>> occur on iOS 15 with this 10 R phone. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 4:29 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Sieghard, 
>>> I have excellent hearing, and this Siri I can not hear the musical tone 
>>> like I did before I upgraded to 16.2!  I don't know when to ask her a 
>>> question or not.  As far as I am concerned Siri was broke with 16.2!  
>>> Janet 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 2:18 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my 
>>> iPad mini
>>> 
>>> I find the main cause right now when Siri misunderstands me is when I speak 
>>> to quickly. I know the current Siri tone is harder to hear for people with 
>>> hearing loss so hopefully Apple will hear these people and change it again 
>>> or even introduce haptic feedback like when you press and hold the digital 
>>> crown on the Apple watch, but it definitely works much better if you give 
>>> it that 1 1000 count after the tone.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>>> Otten
>>&

Re: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad mini

2023-01-14 Thread Mary Otten
My problems have not been as serious as yours, Janet. And Siri seems to be 
doing so much better on the iPad than on my phone. Although I just now asked it 
to launch music, and instead of doing that, it started playing the book I was 
reading last night with voice dream reader. I understand how the double magic 
tap thing can get confused and play the wrong thing sometimes. But why Siri 
thought I wanted to hear a book when I told it to launch the music app is quite 
beyond me. Quality control not.  The other annoying thing is the unwanted an 
inappropriate insertion of punctuation when you’re dictating. For instance, in 
this message, it decided to insert a comma between voice and dream for voice 
dream reader. I did not pause. It had no reason to do that. There must be a 
setting somewhere that I need to find to shut that stupid thing off. maybe this 
will help some people, but I’ve been doing dictation for a long time, and I 
know how to pause. So, I hope there’s a toggle that I just need to find.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 14, 2023, at 5:40 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Mary, 
> I've never had this problem with either of my phones, until I upgraded to 
> this 16.2.  I regret ever upgrading to 16.2!  I've never had so many problems 
> with either of my phones until I upgraded to 16.2.  I have a very serious 
> problem with my Apple Play lists as well, I disconnected all my Bluetooth 
> devices from the phone, and had to reconnect them again.  I can't even get 
> Siri to set my alarm clock.  This is nuts!  I upgraded to 16.2, and I had to 
> erase my entire phone, I had to rename the phone, I lost all my phone calls 
> in my recent folder in the phone app.  I don't know what else to do.  I was 
> seriously considering buying the new iPhone 14, but I quickly changed my 
> mine.  I can't raise or lower the volume on the phone, so when I am talking 
> on the phone, people keep saying they can't hear me, and there isn't anything 
> I can do about that either!  
> 
> Janet 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 7:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad 
> mini
> 
> Hi Janet,
> It’s very interesting about that tone. It seems to me that because I can hear 
> it sometimes and not other times, there might be something going on with 
> audio ducking. It seems to me like voice over having been speaking, just as I 
> pressed the side button to invoke Siri is somehow responsible for not hearing 
> the tone. Therefore, I am wondering about that audio ducking. The problem 
> does not ever occur with iOS 15 on my old phone and did not occur on iOS 15 
> with this 10 R phone. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 4:29 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Sieghard, 
>> I have excellent hearing, and this Siri I can not hear the musical tone like 
>> I did before I upgraded to 16.2!  I don't know when to ask her a question or 
>> not.  As far as I am concerned Siri was broke with 16.2!  
>> Janet 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 2:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my 
>> iPad mini
>> 
>> I find the main cause right now when Siri misunderstands me is when I speak 
>> to quickly. I know the current Siri tone is harder to hear for people with 
>> hearing loss so hopefully Apple will hear these people and change it again 
>> or even introduce haptic feedback like when you press and hold the digital 
>> crown on the Apple watch, but it definitely works much better if you give it 
>> that 1 1000 count after the tone.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 9:41 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my 
>> iPad mini
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> Well, I have been trying to do that, wait and wait some more and then make 
>> my request. Sometimes it seems to help. Other times it’s crazy. Siri is just 
>> not very reliable. In terms of launching apps. It will tell me that I don’t 
>> have a certain nap, maybe twice in a row before finally launching the app. I 
>> don’t know what they’ve done. Maybe it’s processing the request on the 
>> device instead of in the cloud. That would certainly make up for some thing 
>> maybe, because this phone is a 10 R, which is not exactly n

Re: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad mini

2023-01-14 Thread Mary Otten
Wi-Fi is certainly on. Sync library was not on the iPad, it is on my phone. So 
I turned it on on the iPad. And I am using iCloud as a back up. So I’m not sure 
how long it should take for that playlist to sync. I checked my iPad mini after 
turning on sync library and so far it hasn’t done anything. Maybe it takes a 
while.Wi-Fi is certainly on. Sync library was not on the iPad, it is on my 
phone. So I turned it on on the iPad. And I am using iCloud as a back up. So 
I’m not sure how long it should take for that playlist to sink. I checked my 
iPad mini after turning on sync library and so far it hasn’t done anything. 
Maybe it takes a while.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 13, 2023, at 11:26 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> On the device that doesn’t pickup the playlists make sure that wifi/ cellular 
> data is on. Then make sure icloud is on in youre settings and make sure Sync 
> Library is on via on via music in your settints.
> 
> 
> Feliciano
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> 
>> On Jan 13, 2023, at 9:01 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> The subject line pretty much says it all. I have recently created a couple 
>> of playlists on my iPhone XR. They show up there. They show up on my old 
>> iPhone 7 Plus. And they play just fine on my Amazon eight devices because 
>> they’re linked to Apple Music and I can say play my playlist, XYZ and it 
>> works. On my iPad mini six, these playlists are not there. Why the heck not? 
>> I just don’t understand what the heck is going on with Apple.
>> Between the totally erratic behavior of Siri, half of the time, claiming it 
>> doesn’t have an app I want to launch, which I actually have, and the fact 
>> that when I say something like launch music, it starts playing some thing I 
>> don’t want rather than launching the Music app, I really think iOS 16 is 
>> loaded with bugs that need to be stumped and I don’t get it. Come on Apple. 
>> We pay big bucks for these phones and iPads. Clean it up!
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad mini

2023-01-14 Thread janet gross
Mary, 
I've never had this problem with either of my phones, until I upgraded to this 
16.2.  I regret ever upgrading to 16.2!  I've never had so many problems with 
either of my phones until I upgraded to 16.2.  I have a very serious problem 
with my Apple Play lists as well, I disconnected all my Bluetooth devices from 
the phone, and had to reconnect them again.  I can't even get Siri to set my 
alarm clock.  This is nuts!  I upgraded to 16.2, and I had to erase my entire 
phone, I had to rename the phone, I lost all my phone calls in my recent folder 
in the phone app.  I don't know what else to do.  I was seriously considering 
buying the new iPhone 14, but I quickly changed my mine.  I can't raise or 
lower the volume on the phone, so when I am talking on the phone, people keep 
saying they can't hear me, and there isn't anything I can do about that either! 
 

Janet 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 7:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad 
mini

Hi Janet,
It’s very interesting about that tone. It seems to me that because I can hear 
it sometimes and not other times, there might be something going on with audio 
ducking. It seems to me like voice over having been speaking, just as I pressed 
the side button to invoke Siri is somehow responsible for not hearing the tone. 
Therefore, I am wondering about that audio ducking. The problem does not ever 
occur with iOS 15 on my old phone and did not occur on iOS 15 with this 10 R 
phone. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 14, 2023, at 4:29 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hello Sieghard, 
> I have excellent hearing, and this Siri I can not hear the musical tone like 
> I did before I upgraded to 16.2!  I don't know when to ask her a question or 
> not.  As far as I am concerned Siri was broke with 16.2!  
> Janet 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 2:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad 
> mini
> 
> I find the main cause right now when Siri misunderstands me is when I speak 
> to quickly. I know the current Siri tone is harder to hear for people with 
> hearing loss so hopefully Apple will hear these people and change it again or 
> even introduce haptic feedback like when you press and hold the digital crown 
> on the Apple watch, but it definitely works much better if you give it that 1 
> 1000 count after the tone.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 9:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad 
> mini
> 
> Hi Mark,
> Well, I have been trying to do that, wait and wait some more and then make my 
> request. Sometimes it seems to help. Other times it’s crazy. Siri is just not 
> very reliable. In terms of launching apps. It will tell me that I don’t have 
> a certain nap, maybe twice in a row before finally launching the app. I don’t 
> know what they’ve done. Maybe it’s processing the request on the device 
> instead of in the cloud. That would certainly make up for some thing maybe, 
> because this phone is a 10 R, which is not exactly new. Whatever it is, it’s 
> annoying.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2023, at 10:15 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Mary,
>> 
>> As I do not have an Apple Music subscription, I cannot assist you in 
>> resolving your Play List problem.
>> 
>> However, as far as Siri's seemingly random responses to your spoken 
>> requests, I suggest that, after pressing the Siri button on your device, you 
>> wait a full second after you hear the audio prompt, before speaking.  If you 
>> can get in the habit of doing this, I think you will find that Siri is as 
>> consistent as it was in previous versions of the OS.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 9:02 PM
>> To: via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad 
>> mini
>> 
>> The subject line pretty much says it all. I have recently created a couple 
>> of playlists on my iPhone XR. They show up there. They show up on my old 
>> iPhone 7 Plus. And they play just fine on my Amazon eight devices because 
>> they’re linked to Apple Music and I can say play my playlist, XYZ and it 
>> works. On my iPad mini six, these playlists are

Re: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad mini

2023-01-14 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Janet,
It’s very interesting about that tone. It seems to me that because I can hear 
it sometimes and not other times, there might be something going on with audio 
ducking. It seems to me like voice over having been speaking, just as I pressed 
the side button to invoke Siri is somehow responsible for not hearing the tone. 
Therefore, I am wondering about that audio ducking. The problem does not ever 
occur with iOS 15 on my old phone and did not occur on iOS 15 with this 10 R 
phone. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 14, 2023, at 4:29 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hello Sieghard, 
> I have excellent hearing, and this Siri I can not hear the musical tone like 
> I did before I upgraded to 16.2!  I don't know when to ask her a question or 
> not.  As far as I am concerned Siri was broke with 16.2!  
> Janet 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 2:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad 
> mini
> 
> I find the main cause right now when Siri misunderstands me is when I speak 
> to quickly. I know the current Siri tone is harder to hear for people with 
> hearing loss so hopefully Apple will hear these people and change it again or 
> even introduce haptic feedback like when you press and hold the digital crown 
> on the Apple watch, but it definitely works much better if you give it that 1 
> 1000 count after the tone.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 9:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad 
> mini
> 
> Hi Mark,
> Well, I have been trying to do that, wait and wait some more and then make my 
> request. Sometimes it seems to help. Other times it’s crazy. Siri is just not 
> very reliable. In terms of launching apps. It will tell me that I don’t have 
> a certain nap, maybe twice in a row before finally launching the app. I don’t 
> know what they’ve done. Maybe it’s processing the request on the device 
> instead of in the cloud. That would certainly make up for some thing maybe, 
> because this phone is a 10 R, which is not exactly new. Whatever it is, it’s 
> annoying.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2023, at 10:15 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Mary,
>> 
>> As I do not have an Apple Music subscription, I cannot assist you in 
>> resolving your Play List problem.
>> 
>> However, as far as Siri's seemingly random responses to your spoken 
>> requests, I suggest that, after pressing the Siri button on your device, you 
>> wait a full second after you hear the audio prompt, before speaking.  If you 
>> can get in the habit of doing this, I think you will find that Siri is as 
>> consistent as it was in previous versions of the OS.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 9:02 PM
>> To: via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad 
>> mini
>> 
>> The subject line pretty much says it all. I have recently created a couple 
>> of playlists on my iPhone XR. They show up there. They show up on my old 
>> iPhone 7 Plus. And they play just fine on my Amazon eight devices because 
>> they’re linked to Apple Music and I can say play my playlist, XYZ and it 
>> works. On my iPad mini six, these playlists are not there. Why the heck not? 
>> I just don’t understand what the heck is going on with Apple.
>> Between the totally erratic behavior of Siri, half of the time, claiming it 
>> doesn’t have an app I want to launch, which I actually have, and the fact 
>> that when I say something like launch music, it starts playing some thing I 
>> don’t want rather than launching the Music app, I really think iOS 16 is 
>> loaded with bugs that need to be stumped and I don’t get it. Come on Apple. 
>> We pay big bucks for these phones and iPads. Clean it up!
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad mini

2023-01-14 Thread janet gross
Hi Mary, 
Amen to that!  I also have an iPhone XR, and I am experiencing the exact same 
problems you are too.  

Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 11:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad 
mini

Hi Mark,
Well, I have been trying to do that, wait and wait some more and then make my 
request. Sometimes it seems to help. Other times it’s crazy. Siri is just not 
very reliable. In terms of launching apps. It will tell me that I don’t have a 
certain nap, maybe twice in a row before finally launching the app. I don’t 
know what they’ve done. Maybe it’s processing the request on the device instead 
of in the cloud. That would certainly make up for some thing maybe, because 
this phone is a 10 R, which is not exactly new. Whatever it is, it’s annoying.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 13, 2023, at 10:15 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> As I do not have an Apple Music subscription, I cannot assist you in 
> resolving your Play List problem.
> 
> However, as far as Siri's seemingly random responses to your spoken requests, 
> I suggest that, after pressing the Siri button on your device, you wait a 
> full second after you hear the audio prompt, before speaking.  If you can get 
> in the habit of doing this, I think you will find that Siri is as consistent 
> as it was in previous versions of the OS.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 9:02 PM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad mini
> 
> The subject line pretty much says it all. I have recently created a couple of 
> playlists on my iPhone XR. They show up there. They show up on my old iPhone 
> 7 Plus. And they play just fine on my Amazon eight devices because they’re 
> linked to Apple Music and I can say play my playlist, XYZ and it works. On my 
> iPad mini six, these playlists are not there. Why the heck not? I just don’t 
> understand what the heck is going on with Apple.
> Between the totally erratic behavior of Siri, half of the time, claiming it 
> doesn’t have an app I want to launch, which I actually have, and the fact 
> that when I say something like launch music, it starts playing some thing I 
> don’t want rather than launching the Music app, I really think iOS 16 is 
> loaded with bugs that need to be stumped and I don’t get it. Come on Apple. 
> We pay big bucks for these phones and iPads. Clean it up!
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad mini

2023-01-14 Thread janet gross
Hello Sieghard, 
I have excellent hearing, and this Siri I can not hear the musical tone like I 
did before I upgraded to 16.2!  I don't know when to ask her a question or not. 
 As far as I am concerned Siri was broke with 16.2!  
Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad 
mini

I find the main cause right now when Siri misunderstands me is when I speak to 
quickly. I know the current Siri tone is harder to hear for people with hearing 
loss so hopefully Apple will hear these people and change it again or even 
introduce haptic feedback like when you press and hold the digital crown on the 
Apple watch, but it definitely works much better if you give it that 1 1000 
count after the tone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad 
mini

Hi Mark,
Well, I have been trying to do that, wait and wait some more and then make my 
request. Sometimes it seems to help. Other times it’s crazy. Siri is just not 
very reliable. In terms of launching apps. It will tell me that I don’t have a 
certain nap, maybe twice in a row before finally launching the app. I don’t 
know what they’ve done. Maybe it’s processing the request on the device instead 
of in the cloud. That would certainly make up for some thing maybe, because 
this phone is a 10 R, which is not exactly new. Whatever it is, it’s annoying.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 13, 2023, at 10:15 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> As I do not have an Apple Music subscription, I cannot assist you in 
> resolving your Play List problem.
> 
> However, as far as Siri's seemingly random responses to your spoken requests, 
> I suggest that, after pressing the Siri button on your device, you wait a 
> full second after you hear the audio prompt, before speaking.  If you can get 
> in the habit of doing this, I think you will find that Siri is as consistent 
> as it was in previous versions of the OS.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 9:02 PM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad mini
> 
> The subject line pretty much says it all. I have recently created a couple of 
> playlists on my iPhone XR. They show up there. They show up on my old iPhone 
> 7 Plus. And they play just fine on my Amazon eight devices because they’re 
> linked to Apple Music and I can say play my playlist, XYZ and it works. On my 
> iPad mini six, these playlists are not there. Why the heck not? I just don’t 
> understand what the heck is going on with Apple.
> Between the totally erratic behavior of Siri, half of the time, claiming it 
> doesn’t have an app I want to launch, which I actually have, and the fact 
> that when I say something like launch music, it starts playing some thing I 
> don’t want rather than launching the Music app, I really think iOS 16 is 
> loaded with bugs that need to be stumped and I don’t get it. Come on Apple. 
> We pay big bucks for these phones and iPads. Clean it up!
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad mini

2023-01-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I hope you send this too Apple as well since I doubt Apple is monitoring the 
Viphone list to see what they have to fix.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 9:02 PM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad mini

The subject line pretty much says it all. I have recently created a couple of 
playlists on my iPhone XR. They show up there. They show up on my old iPhone 7 
Plus. And they play just fine on my Amazon eight devices because they’re linked 
to Apple Music and I can say play my playlist, XYZ and it works. On my iPad 
mini six, these playlists are not there. Why the heck not? I just don’t 
understand what the heck is going on with Apple.
Between the totally erratic behavior of Siri, half of the time, claiming it 
doesn’t have an app I want to launch, which I actually have, and the fact that 
when I say something like launch music, it starts playing some thing I don’t 
want rather than launching the Music app, I really think iOS 16 is loaded with 
bugs that need to be stumped and I don’t get it. Come on Apple. We pay big 
bucks for these phones and iPads. Clean it up!


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RE: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad mini

2023-01-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I find the main cause right now when Siri misunderstands me is when I speak to 
quickly. I know the current Siri tone is harder to hear for people with hearing 
loss so hopefully Apple will hear these people and change it again or even 
introduce haptic feedback like when you press and hold the digital crown on the 
Apple watch, but it definitely works much better if you give it that 1 1000 
count after the tone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad 
mini

Hi Mark,
Well, I have been trying to do that, wait and wait some more and then make my 
request. Sometimes it seems to help. Other times it’s crazy. Siri is just not 
very reliable. In terms of launching apps. It will tell me that I don’t have a 
certain nap, maybe twice in a row before finally launching the app. I don’t 
know what they’ve done. Maybe it’s processing the request on the device instead 
of in the cloud. That would certainly make up for some thing maybe, because 
this phone is a 10 R, which is not exactly new. Whatever it is, it’s annoying.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 13, 2023, at 10:15 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> As I do not have an Apple Music subscription, I cannot assist you in 
> resolving your Play List problem.
> 
> However, as far as Siri's seemingly random responses to your spoken requests, 
> I suggest that, after pressing the Siri button on your device, you wait a 
> full second after you hear the audio prompt, before speaking.  If you can get 
> in the habit of doing this, I think you will find that Siri is as consistent 
> as it was in previous versions of the OS.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 9:02 PM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad mini
> 
> The subject line pretty much says it all. I have recently created a couple of 
> playlists on my iPhone XR. They show up there. They show up on my old iPhone 
> 7 Plus. And they play just fine on my Amazon eight devices because they’re 
> linked to Apple Music and I can say play my playlist, XYZ and it works. On my 
> iPad mini six, these playlists are not there. Why the heck not? I just don’t 
> understand what the heck is going on with Apple.
> Between the totally erratic behavior of Siri, half of the time, claiming it 
> doesn’t have an app I want to launch, which I actually have, and the fact 
> that when I say something like launch music, it starts playing some thing I 
> don’t want rather than launching the Music app, I really think iOS 16 is 
> loaded with bugs that need to be stumped and I don’t get it. Come on Apple. 
> We pay big bucks for these phones and iPads. Clean it up!
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad mini

2023-01-14 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Mark,
Well, I have been trying to do that, wait and wait some more and then make my 
request. Sometimes it seems to help. Other times it’s crazy. Siri is just not 
very reliable. In terms of launching apps. It will tell me that I don’t have a 
certain nap, maybe twice in a row before finally launching the app. I don’t 
know what they’ve done. Maybe it’s processing the request on the device instead 
of in the cloud. That would certainly make up for some thing maybe, because 
this phone is a 10 R, which is not exactly new. Whatever it is, it’s annoying.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 13, 2023, at 10:15 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> As I do not have an Apple Music subscription, I cannot assist you in 
> resolving your Play List problem.
> 
> However, as far as Siri's seemingly random responses to your spoken requests, 
> I suggest that, after pressing the Siri button on your device, you wait a 
> full second after you hear the audio prompt, before speaking.  If you can get 
> in the habit of doing this, I think you will find that Siri is as consistent 
> as it was in previous versions of the OS.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 9:02 PM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad mini
> 
> The subject line pretty much says it all. I have recently created a couple of 
> playlists on my iPhone XR. They show up there. They show up on my old iPhone 
> 7 Plus. And they play just fine on my Amazon eight devices because they’re 
> linked to Apple Music and I can say play my playlist, XYZ and it works. On my 
> iPad mini six, these playlists are not there. Why the heck not? I just don’t 
> understand what the heck is going on with Apple.
> Between the totally erratic behavior of Siri, half of the time, claiming it 
> doesn’t have an app I want to launch, which I actually have, and the fact 
> that when I say something like launch music, it starts playing some thing I 
> don’t want rather than launching the Music app, I really think iOS 16 is 
> loaded with bugs that need to be stumped and I don’t get it. Come on Apple. 
> We pay big bucks for these phones and iPads. Clean it up!
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad mini

2023-01-13 Thread Feliciano Godoy
Hi,
On the device that doesn’t pickup the playlists make sure that wifi/ cellular 
data is on. Then make sure icloud is on in youre settings and make sure Sync 
Library is on via on via music in your settints.
  

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> On Jan 13, 2023, at 9:01 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> The subject line pretty much says it all. I have recently created a couple 
> of playlists on my iPhone XR. They show up there. They show up on my old 
> iPhone 7 Plus. And they play just fine on my Amazon eight devices because 
> they’re linked to Apple Music and I can say play my playlist, XYZ and it 
> works. On my iPad mini six, these playlists are not there. Why the heck not? 
> I just don’t understand what the heck is going on with Apple.
> Between the totally erratic behavior of Siri, half of the time, claiming it 
> doesn’t have an app I want to launch, which I actually have, and the fact 
> that when I say something like launch music, it starts playing some thing I 
> don’t want rather than launching the Music app, I really think iOS 16 is 
> loaded with bugs that need to be stumped and I don’t get it. Come on Apple. 
> We pay big bucks for these phones and iPads. Clean it up!
> 
> 
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RE: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad mini

2023-01-13 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Mary,

As I do not have an Apple Music subscription, I cannot assist you in resolving 
your Play List problem.

However, as far as Siri's seemingly random responses to your spoken requests, I 
suggest that, after pressing the Siri button on your device, you wait a full 
second after you hear the audio prompt, before speaking.  If you can get in the 
habit of doing this, I think you will find that Siri is as consistent as it was 
in previous versions of the OS.

Mark

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Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 9:02 PM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad mini

The subject line pretty much says it all. I have recently created a couple of 
playlists on my iPhone XR. They show up there. They show up on my old iPhone 7 
Plus. And they play just fine on my Amazon eight devices because they’re linked 
to Apple Music and I can say play my playlist, XYZ and it works. On my iPad 
mini six, these playlists are not there. Why the heck not? I just don’t 
understand what the heck is going on with Apple.
Between the totally erratic behavior of Siri, half of the time, claiming it 
doesn’t have an app I want to launch, which I actually have, and the fact that 
when I say something like launch music, it starts playing some thing I don’t 
want rather than launching the Music app, I really think iOS 16 is loaded with 
bugs that need to be stumped and I don’t get it. Come on Apple. We pay big 
bucks for these phones and iPads. Clean it up!


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Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad mini

2023-01-13 Thread Mary Otten
The subject line pretty much says it all. I have recently created a couple of 
playlists on my iPhone XR. They show up there. They show up on my old iPhone 7 
Plus. And they play just fine on my Amazon eight devices because they’re linked 
to Apple Music and I can say play my playlist, XYZ and it works. On my iPad 
mini six, these playlists are not there. Why the heck not? I just don’t 
understand what the heck is going on with Apple.
Between the totally erratic behavior of Siri, half of the time, claiming it 
doesn’t have an app I want to launch, which I actually have, and the fact that 
when I say something like launch music, it starts playing some thing I don’t 
want rather than launching the Music app, I really think iOS 16 is loaded with 
bugs that need to be stumped and I don’t get it. Come on Apple. We pay big 
bucks for these phones and iPads. Clean it up!


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RE: Apple has released a Windows alternative to iTunes, with new Apple Music, TV, and Devices apps available to preview.

2023-01-12 Thread M. Taylor
Thank you for posting this, Sieghard.

I saw this and was very intrigued until I learned that the first iterations do 
not include clients for audiobooks and a couple of other media types.

Still, I think it is a definite step in the right direction.

Thank you again.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple has released a Windows alternative to iTunes, with new Apple 
Music, TV, and Devices apps available to preview.

It looks like the days of iTunes maybe numbered although you need to remember 
that for now these are app previews so count maybe on various bugs and since I 
have not yet tested any of them I can't speak to their accessibility. 
Furthermore the catch they mentioned is that a very recent version of Windows 
11 is required to install and run these apps and for now apparently you can 
also only get them in the United States. So before you order a new Windows 11 
computer maybe wait and see what Applevis and other people report as to the 
accessibility of these apps. Here is the article:

https://www.imore.com/apple/after-20-years-of-itunes-apple-music-is-finally-on-windows-with-one-major-catch

Best regards,
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Apple has released a Windows alternative to iTunes, with new Apple Music, TV, and Devices apps available to preview.

2023-01-12 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
It looks like the days of iTunes maybe numbered although you need to remember 
that for now these are app previews so count maybe on various bugs and since I 
have not yet tested any of them I can't speak to their accessibility. 
Furthermore the catch they mentioned is that a very recent version of Windows 
11 is required to install and run these apps and for now apparently you can 
also only get them in the United States. So before you order a new Windows 11 
computer maybe wait and see what Applevis and other people report as to the 
accessibility of these apps. Here is the article:

After 20 years of iTunes, Apple Music is finally on Windows - with one major 
catch
<https://www.imore.com/apple/after-20-years-of-itunes-apple-music-is-finally-on-windows-with-one-major-catch>

Best regards,
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RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth.

2023-01-10 Thread M. Taylor
Hi Sieghard,

Excellent troubleshooting  advice.  I completely agree.

When I first began using my 14, try as I may, I could not adjust the ringer 
volume on the device.  Nor could I change the volume of a call until I toggled 
the Attention Aware Features to off.  I learned of this setting via Google.  
Like you, I always start with the device's built-in mikes and speakers, before 
testing on Apple wired Ear Pods.

The funny thing is that when updating to 16.2 on iPhone 11, this feature was 
automatically set to off, however, as many on the web have reported, this 
feature is automatically enabled on the iPhone 14 models.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 11:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth.

Mark, I just checked this setting on my iPhone 13 Pro and it is turned on yet I 
have no issues changing the call volume with the volume up and down button when 
a call is active.
I just tried this with my wired Earpods connected and while I have not tried it 
for example with my Aftershokz Open Com Bluetooth headset, I am pretty sure I 
have used it previously and was able to adjust the volume as well.
I am wondering if Janet says people can't hear her well if she is using one of 
her Bluetooth headsets or if it is using just the iPhone held to her ear or if 
she is using a wired headset like the Earpods.
Once again my advice is to rule out as many things which can have influence 
here which means if she has tried this with Bluetooth, just make a phone call 
and try it with  your iPhone either held to your ear or on speaker. I just 
called my bank which gave me their interactive voice response system so I used 
this and was definitely able to confirm that turning up the volume made it 
louder and turning down the volume made it less loud.
Of course this does not factor in how others can hear Janet, but at least it is 
a way to see if the volume buttons work without using a Bluetooth headset.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 11:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth.

Hello,

I don't  have Janet's previous reply to this thread so am responding here.

While I cannot address the Apple Music issue, I have a suggestion about the 
inability to change call volume, during a call:

I first referred to this in a different thread but it may be worth trying, in 
this instance.

If you're running  iOS 16.2, do the following:
1.
 From the Settings menu, select Face ID and Passcode.  Enter your credentials.

2.
Find the "Attention Aware Features" button and toggle it to, "OFF."  This 
option is located just below the "Require Attention for Face ID," option.  
These are two separate settings.  

Reboot the phone and see if you can now change the call volume when on a call 
or during incoming calls.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Corey 
Cook
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 8:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music and Bluetooth.

question, is the music issue happening over cellular data or your home wifi?

On 1/10/23, janet gross  wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> Well, I sent a message to this list just yesterday saying I feel like 
> an idiot, but I take that back.  I am still now having the same 
> problem with Apple Music and my Bluetooth Speaker, and it is not only 
> with my Bose Sound Color speaker, but as well with my Sony Ear Pods, 
> Power Beats, as well as still with my Bose.  The music just stops 
> playing, and some times I can tap to play again, and some times that 
> just doesn't work, and I pay $10-99 a month for Apple Music!  I guess 
> I will have to spend more time with Apple Support tomorrow again! This 
> is on Apple, and not my speakers!  So, I'm right back where I started, 
> just because I updated to this iOS 16.2 in which I once again hate!  I 
> also have problems  with the volume, for the simple fact, I can't 
> raise the volume, so when I am on a important call, the other end 
> can't hear  me, and I can't hardly hear them!  I keep raising the up 
> volume, but it does no good!  I can't hear any musical tone from Siri, 
> so I don't know when I can ask him a question.  I ask him to set my alarm, 
> and he says I have no clock app, and I can go to the App store to download 
> one!
> This is getting to be just way to much.  It's sad to have all this 
> happen just because Apple let this get by them.  It just goes to show 
> just how much Apple pays attention before sending out the updates!
>
> Janet
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RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth.

2023-01-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Mark, I just checked this setting on my iPhone 13 Pro and it is turned on yet I 
have no issues changing the call volume with the volume up and down button when 
a call is active.
I just tried this with my wired Earpods connected and while I have not tried it 
for example with my Aftershokz Open Com Bluetooth headset, I am pretty sure I 
have used it previously and was able to adjust the volume as well.
I am wondering if Janet says people can't hear her well if she is using one of 
her Bluetooth headsets or if it is using just the iPhone held to her ear or if 
she is using a wired headset like the Earpods.
Once again my advice is to rule out as many things which can have influence 
here which means if she has tried this with Bluetooth, just make a phone call 
and try it with  your iPhone either held to your ear or on speaker. I just 
called my bank which gave me their interactive voice response system so I used 
this and was definitely able to confirm that turning up the volume made it 
louder and turning down the volume made it less loud.
Of course this does not factor in how others can hear Janet, but at least it is 
a way to see if the volume buttons work without using a Bluetooth headset.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 11:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth.

Hello,

I don't  have Janet's previous reply to this thread so am responding here.

While I cannot address the Apple Music issue, I have a suggestion about the 
inability to change call volume, during a call:

I first referred to this in a different thread but it may be worth trying, in 
this instance.

If you're running  iOS 16.2, do the following:
1.
 From the Settings menu, select Face ID and Passcode.  Enter your credentials.

2.
Find the "Attention Aware Features" button and toggle it to, "OFF."  This 
option is located just below the "Require Attention for Face ID," option.  
These are two separate settings.  

Reboot the phone and see if you can now change the call volume when on a call 
or during incoming calls.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Corey 
Cook
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 8:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music and Bluetooth.

question, is the music issue happening over cellular data or your home wifi?

On 1/10/23, janet gross  wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> Well, I sent a message to this list just yesterday saying I feel like 
> an idiot, but I take that back.  I am still now having the same 
> problem with Apple Music and my Bluetooth Speaker, and it is not only 
> with my Bose Sound Color speaker, but as well with my Sony Ear Pods, 
> Power Beats, as well as still with my Bose.  The music just stops 
> playing, and some times I can tap to play again, and some times that 
> just doesn't work, and I pay $10-99 a month for Apple Music!  I guess 
> I will have to spend more time with Apple Support tomorrow again! This 
> is on Apple, and not my speakers!  So, I'm right back where I started, 
> just because I updated to this iOS 16.2 in which I once again hate!  I 
> also have problems  with the volume, for the simple fact, I can't 
> raise the volume, so when I am on a important call, the other end 
> can't hear  me, and I can't hardly hear them!  I keep raising the up 
> volume, but it does no good!  I can't hear any musical tone from Siri, 
> so I don't know when I can ask him a question.  I ask him to set my alarm, 
> and he says I have no clock app, and I can go to the App store to download 
> one!
> This is getting to be just way to much.  It's sad to have all this 
> happen just because Apple let this get by them.  It just goes to show 
> just how much Apple pays attention before sending out the updates!
>
> Janet
>
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RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth.

2023-01-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello Janet,

I really hate to ssay this, but I have a feeling this is not an issue with iOS 
16.2 but with your particular device/installation where I assume something may 
have gone wrong. I have heard from a lot of people that Siri was misbehaving 
only for them to get the advice to give it about a second or even half a second 
after the tome to start speaking and this seems to solve the issue for 
everybody I have heard about.
As far as your volume issue I unfortunately don't really have an answer, but 
the fact that earlier you said your Bose speaker worked after raising the 
volume shows that that was the problem.
Regarding music stopping, you really should do one test before you blame Apple 
and iOS 16.2 and that is to play music just on your iPhone through the internal 
speakers or with wired Earpods connected rather than via a Bluetooth 
connection. If you have the same issue then obviously something is wrong with 
Apple Music, but if that works fine then there is some issue with your 
Bluetooth connection/devices. You may have said which iPhone you have in the 
beginning, but if so I forgot, is it an older model? There is always a chance 
of a hardware defect of some sort, but while I believe you said you did a 
complete restore, I nonetheless would do a Reset Network Settings which is also 
done in Settings > General > Reset or whatever it's called now (second from the 
bottom just before Shutdown).
Doing this will reset all your radios and while you have to re-enter your Wi-Fi 
password, it is a worthwhile step which can often fix strange issues.
Another thing I would do to make sure it's not a connectivity issue is to 
reboot your router.
Lastly, in order to rule out more potential problems, do you have another 
device you can use with the same Bose speaker or Sony headset or do you have a 
family member or friend with an iPhone who has also upgraded to 16.2 who could 
connect to your speaker and see if they are having the same issues?
I know this sort of thing is frustrating, but it's really important to 
iliminate as many items which may have an effect on this and things like 
connectivity to your Wi-Fi network, your modem's or router's connectivity to 
the internet, your Bluetooth connectivity all factor into this.
In fact, it might even be good to know what type of connectivity you have, is 
it fiber, cable, ADSL? Do you have your own router or do you use a modem/router 
from your provider? Have  you asked if your provider can check to see if the 
modem needs a firmware update? If you have your own router, have you updated it 
to the latest firmware?


Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 7:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth.

Hi Everyone,
Well, I sent a message to this list just yesterday saying I feel like an idiot, 
but I take that back.  I am still now having the same problem with Apple Music 
and my Bluetooth Speaker, and it is not only with my Bose Sound Color speaker, 
but as well with my Sony Ear Pods, Power Beats, as well as still with my Bose.  
The music just stops playing, and some times I can tap to play again, and some 
times that just doesn’t work, and I pay $10-99 a month for Apple Music!  I 
guess I will have to spend more time with Apple Support tomorrow again! This is 
on Apple, and not my speakers!  So, I’m right back where I started, just 
because I updated to this iOS 16.2 in which I once again hate!  I also have 
problems  with the volume, for the simple fact, I can’t raise the volume, so 
when I am on a important call, the other end can’t hear  me, and I can’t hardly 
hear them!  I keep raising the up volume, but it does no good!  I can’t hear 
any musical tone from Siri, so I don’t know when I can ask him a question.  I 
ask him to set my alarm, and he says I have no clock app, and I can go to the 
App store to download one!  This is getting to be just way to much.  It’s sad 
to have all this happen just because Apple let this get by them.  It just goes 
to show just how much Apple pays attention before sending out the updates!

Janet
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RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth.

2023-01-10 Thread M. Taylor
Hello,

I don't  have Janet's previous reply to this thread so am responding here.

While I cannot address the Apple Music issue, I have a suggestion about the 
inability to change call volume, during a call:

I first referred to this in a different thread but it may be worth trying, in 
this instance.

If you're running  iOS 16.2, do the following:
1.
 From the Settings menu, select Face ID and Passcode.  Enter your credentials.

2.
Find the "Attention Aware Features" button and toggle it to, "OFF."  This 
option is located just below the "Require Attention for Face ID," option.  
These are two separate settings.  

Reboot the phone and see if you can now change the call volume when on a call 
or during incoming calls.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Corey 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 8:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music and Bluetooth.

question, is the music issue happening over cellular data or your home wifi?

On 1/10/23, janet gross  wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> Well, I sent a message to this list just yesterday saying I feel like 
> an idiot, but I take that back.  I am still now having the same 
> problem with Apple Music and my Bluetooth Speaker, and it is not only 
> with my Bose Sound Color speaker, but as well with my Sony Ear Pods, 
> Power Beats, as well as still with my Bose.  The music just stops 
> playing, and some times I can tap to play again, and some times that 
> just doesn't work, and I pay $10-99 a month for Apple Music!  I guess 
> I will have to spend more time with Apple Support tomorrow again! This 
> is on Apple, and not my speakers!  So, I'm right back where I started, 
> just because I updated to this iOS 16.2 in which I once again hate!  I 
> also have problems  with the volume, for the simple fact, I can't 
> raise the volume, so when I am on a important call, the other end 
> can't hear  me, and I can't hardly hear them!  I keep raising the up 
> volume, but it does no good!  I can't hear any musical tone from Siri, 
> so I don't know when I can ask him a question.  I ask him to set my alarm, 
> and he says I have no clock app, and I can go to the App store to download 
> one!
> This is getting to be just way to much.  It's sad to have all this 
> happen just because Apple let this get by them.  It just goes to show 
> just how much Apple pays attention before sending out the updates!
>
> Janet
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Re: Apple Music and Bluetooth.

2023-01-10 Thread Feliciano Godoy
Hi,
If you’re only experiencing this with Apple Music, it may be the Apple Music 
quality being too high, causing your Internet to buffer. You can go to your 
Apple settings, followed by music and change the music quality there and lower 
it and see if that helps. You won’t notice much of a difference with your 
speaker and most headphones anyway.

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On Jan 10, 2023, at 7:42 PM, janet gross  wrote:


Hi Everyone,
Well, I sent a message to this list just yesterday saying I feel like an idiot, 
but I take that back.  I am still now having the same problem with Apple Music 
and my Bluetooth Speaker, and it is not only with my Bose Sound Color speaker, 
but as well with my Sony Ear Pods, Power Beats, as well as still with my Bose.  
The music just stops playing, and some times I can tap to play again, and some 
times that just doesn’t work, and I pay $10-99 a month for Apple Music!  I 
guess I will have to spend more time with Apple Support tomorrow again! This is 
on Apple, and not my speakers!  So, I’m right back where I started, just 
because I updated to this iOS 16.2 in which I once again hate!  I also have 
problems  with the volume, for the simple fact, I can’t raise the volume, so 
when I am on a important call, the other end can’t hear  me, and I can’t hardly 
hear them!  I keep raising the up volume, but it does no good!  I can’t hear 
any musical tone from Siri, so I don’t know when I can ask him a question.  I 
ask him to set my alarm, and he says I have no clock app, and I can go to the 
App store to download one!  This is getting to be just way to much.  It’s sad 
to have all this happen just because Apple let this get by them.  It just goes 
to show just how much Apple pays attention before sending out the updates!

Janet

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Re: Apple Music and Bluetooth.

2023-01-10 Thread Corey Cook
question, is the music issue happening over cellular data or your home wifi?

On 1/10/23, janet gross  wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> Well, I sent a message to this list just yesterday saying I feel like an
> idiot, but I take that back.  I am still now having the same problem with
> Apple Music and my Bluetooth Speaker, and it is not only with my Bose Sound
> Color speaker, but as well with my Sony Ear Pods, Power Beats, as well as
> still with my Bose.  The music just stops playing, and some times I can tap
> to play again, and some times that just doesn't work, and I pay $10-99 a
> month for Apple Music!  I guess I will have to spend more time with Apple
> Support tomorrow again! This is on Apple, and not my speakers!  So, I'm
> right back where I started, just because I updated to this iOS 16.2 in which
> I once again hate!  I also have problems  with the volume, for the simple
> fact, I can't raise the volume, so when I am on a important call, the other
> end can't hear  me, and I can't hardly hear them!  I keep raising the up
> volume, but it does no good!  I can't hear any musical tone from Siri, so I
> don't know when I can ask him a question.  I ask him to set my alarm, and he
> says I have no clock app, and I can go to the App store to download one!
> This is getting to be just way to much.  It's sad to have all this happen
> just because Apple let this get by them.  It just goes to show just how much
> Apple pays attention before sending out the updates!
>
> Janet
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Apple Music and Bluetooth.

2023-01-10 Thread janet gross
Hi Everyone,
Well, I sent a message to this list just yesterday saying I feel like an idiot, 
but I take that back.  I am still now having the same problem with Apple Music 
and my Bluetooth Speaker, and it is not only with my Bose Sound Color speaker, 
but as well with my Sony Ear Pods, Power Beats, as well as still with my Bose.  
The music just stops playing, and some times I can tap to play again, and some 
times that just doesn't work, and I pay $10-99 a month for Apple Music!  I 
guess I will have to spend more time with Apple Support tomorrow again! This is 
on Apple, and not my speakers!  So, I'm right back where I started, just 
because I updated to this iOS 16.2 in which I once again hate!  I also have 
problems  with the volume, for the simple fact, I can't raise the volume, so 
when I am on a important call, the other end can't hear  me, and I can't hardly 
hear them!  I keep raising the up volume, but it does no good!  I can't hear 
any musical tone from Siri, so I don't know when I can ask him a question.  I 
ask him to set my alarm, and he says I have no clock app, and I can go to the 
App store to download one!  This is getting to be just way to much.  It's sad 
to have all this happen just because Apple let this get by them.  It just goes 
to show just how much Apple pays attention before sending out the updates!

Janet

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RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

2023-01-09 Thread janet gross
Hi Joshua , 
Thank you for your thoughts!  

Janet  

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Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 3:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Janet.  I have no idea why you are having so many problems with IOS 16.2.

On 1/9/23, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:
> Hi Janet,
> Another thing
>
> To consider is checking if there’s new firmware update for your 
> speaker. I know you can do this for compatible Bose devices via Bose 
> connect app on iPhone. Other than that I imagine you removed the 
> device from your bluetooth settings and repaired it already.
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> On Jan 8, 2023, at 10:23 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Feliciano,
> I’ve checked all those Bluetooth settings, and all is well.  I’ve used 
> this Bose Speaker with Apple Music for at least 5 years with no 
> problem, until I updated to 16.2, in which I  regret!  I’ve signed out 
> of the Apple Music App, and signed back in with no different results.  
> I completely understand minor bugs, minor changes, but when it gets to 
> the point of having to erase your entire phone, and still the phone 
> doesn’t work like it should, there is something seriously wrong!
>
> Janet
> Janet
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Feliciano Godoy
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 11:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.
>
> Hi Janet,
> I understand your frustration as I too have experienced this problem. 
> First, I would check the setting that your speaker is set as via 
> Bluetooth settings and more info for your speaker. Set that device to 
> speaker as voiceover can behave differently if it’s set to another setting.
> Secondly, I would recommend that you add audio destination to your 
> rotor as your voiceover speech can be sent to the speaker when many 
> prefer voiceover speech to be on the iPhone and audio via speaker. You 
> can add audio destination via your settings- Settings, accessibility, 
> voiceover followed by rotor.
>
> Hope that helps.
> Feliciano
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 8:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.
>
> Hi Everyone,
> I’m sorry, but my last email regarding Apple Music, just seemed to 
> slip away before I got to ask my question.  Does anyone have any ideas 
> to rectify my Apple Music and Bose Speaker?
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Janet
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.
>
> Hi Everyone,
> Well now, because I updated I have another problem with Apple Music as 
> well as with my Bluetooth Bose Color Sound Link.  Sometimes Apple 
> Music will play on the phone, and if I play one of my play lists, it 
> takes forever to play one song after the other, and I’ve done this for 
> many years.  I had Apple music playing yesterday from one of my play 
> list with

RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

2023-01-09 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Janet, keep in mind that this could have just been some glitch which happened 
to you and while it's frustrating and unfortunate, there will always be stuff 
like that happening.
You may also want to check if your Bose speaker is able to take firmware 
updates as updating devices if it can be done is also very important.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Arnold,
I was thinking I just might have to do that.  I can’t imagine how Apple let 
this one go through, but they did!

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 12:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Also, if everything works as it should except through your speaker, perhaps you 
need to tell your phone to forget this device, then pair it again.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3

On Jan 9, 2023, at 12:31 AM, Feliciano Godoy 
mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Janet,
I understand your frustration as I too have experienced this problem. First, I 
would check the setting that your speaker is set as via Bluetooth settings and 
more info for your speaker. Set that device to speaker as voiceover can behave 
differently if it’s set to another setting.
Secondly, I would recommend that you add audio destination to your rotor as 
your voiceover speech can be sent to the speaker when many prefer voiceover 
speech to be on the iPhone and audio via speaker. You can add audio destination 
via your settings- Settings, accessibility, voiceover followed by rotor.

Hope that helps.
Feliciano

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Everyone,
I’m sorry, but my last email regarding Apple Music, just seemed to slip away 
before I got to ask my question.  Does anyone have any ideas to rectify my 
Apple Music and Bose Speaker?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Janet


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Everyone,
Well now, because I updated I have another problem with Apple Music as well as 
with my Bluetooth Bose Color Sound Link.  Sometimes Apple Music will play on 
the phone, and if I play one of my play lists, it takes forever to play one 
song after the other, and I’ve done this for many years.  I had Apple music 
playing yesterday from one of my play list with my Bose Speaker, and while it 
didn’t work all that well, it did finally work, and I had Apple Music playing a 
few hours ago, but now my Bose Speaker says it is connected, but nothing comes 
through the speaker.  One problem after the other with this phone.
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