Re: List recorder on ipad mini

[Eric Caron]

Hi Denise,

I recently spoke to the developer of List Recorder and the fix 
submitted just before the holidays has been approved by Apple.  We now need to 
wait for the App Store to do it's thing and the update will appear.  It should 
be available soon.  Once there update your device and List Recorder will work 
normally and even have a few improvements. 

Eric Caron 
On Jan 1, 2013, at 2:37 PM, denise avant  wrote:

> I am not seeing an indication that one exist
> Pactually i get a message saying all apps are up to date
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 1, 2013, at 1:09 PM, "Richard Turner"  
> wrote:
> 
>> You must have upgraded from the original List Recorder.
>> That was a bug in version 2.42.
>> Have you checked for an update to version 2.43?
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of denise avant
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 9:58 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: List recorder on ipad mini
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> When using list recorder on my ipad mini, the screen appears upside down in
>> portrait mode. Has anyone had this problem?
>> 
>> 
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Re: Recording, Or Taking Notes On, A Phone Call?

[Eric Caron]

Hi folks,

Currently I am able to use List Recorder to record a phone 
conversation. It only works in speaker phone mode but the quality is pretty 
good.  Here is what I do.

the phone call must be started first.
I then press the home key and go to List Recorder.
I then start a new recording.
Now the other person's voice is recorded as it comes out of the speaker and 
mine is recorded normally.  I find this useful when I need to remember 
information being given to me over the phone.

Eric Caron 




On Jan 2, 2013, at 3:48 AM, William Windels  wrote:

> Hi Recardo and others,
> 
> First of all, my best wishes for 2013.
> 
> What about the question below:
> 
> I think that making records of a phone call should be possible and the use of 
> one microphone for 2 programs = sondstreams , should not be a problem.
> 
> I think this because Some years ago, I had a nokia where you could press on a 
> button while calling and both conversations on each side of the line where 
> recorded. Both parties could here then a little sound every (30) seconds 
> while the call was recorded.
> It would be so nice if it should become true also for the iphone
> kind regards,
> William Windels
> Op 1-jan.-2013, om 12:35 heeft Ricardo Walker  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I doubt it.  I don't see how it could work.  Both apps are trying to use the 
>> microphone at the same time.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Jan 1, 2013, at 5:00 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>> 
>>> Are either of these possible while on a call on my IPhone 5?  I thought I 
>>> could do it with voice memos, but when I double tapped the call button, 
>>> while voice memos was recording, it shut voice memos  off.  I then was 
>>> going to try making the call, while voice memos was running, but not 
>>> recording yet, but when I pressed the home button to go back to voice 
>>> memos, while the phone call was in progress, (luckily, it was one of those 
>>> recordings playing, not a real person), it locked the whole thing up and it 
>>> took holding down the power button two or three times to get it unlocked.  
>>> So I am scared to try that again.I have not tried it, while notes is 
>>> running. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any information.
>>> 
>>> Arnold Schmidt
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Re: Fleksy Question

[Eric Caron]

Bill and others,

I would like to do the in app purchase for Fleksy but cant figure out 
where it is.  When I first got Fleksy it started with a screen with a few 
options including instructions.  After playing with the app a little it no 
longer opened to that screen but now just starts and says tap once to start or 
something like that.  I checked Fleksy settings in the settings area of the 
phone and there is nothing I can do there.  In my current app I can't figure 
out how to get out of the typing mode. 

Sorry for such a strange question but I'm stumped.

Eric Caron 

On Jan 16, 2013, at 6:00 PM, Bill Rappos  wrote:

> Hi all!
> 
> Thanks for checking out Fleksy!
> 
> In standard Fleksy typing mode, a swipe left will always delete the last word 
> entered, or the word currently being typed. 
> 
> It is possible, however, to delete by character, when in accutyping mode. 
> This is the typing mode that enables entering custom words: Tap and hold on 
> the keyboard and drag to your desired letter. Release. Every letter you input 
> this way, you can delete with a swipe left. 
> 
> You can at any time dive into the extensive instructions by visiting this 
> link: http://manual.fleksy.com
> 
> And feel free to contact the Fleksy team any time at support @ fleksy.com
> 
> Happy Typing!
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 2:36:50 PM UTC-8, Elizabeth Ulrich wrote:
> Hi Tina!  if you type in a wrong letter, flick your finger to the left, and 
> that should delete one letter.  I am trying to learn how to use Fleksy as 
> well, and I need to sit down and play with it for a good length of time. 
> 
> Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie 
> Westwood Church of God Internet Prayer Chain Coordinator 
> and Avon Representative 
> HTTP://WWW.YOURAVON.COM/ELIZABETHULRICH 
> 
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Re: List recorder recording volume

[Eric Caron]

The iPhone volume will not effect the recording.  

Glad you are enjoying List Recorder.  It is one of my most used and most useful 
apps.

Eric Caron 


On Jan 16, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Fanus  wrote:

> Hello list
> Does the iPhone volume effect the recording volume?
> Regards
> Fanus
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Re: Fleksy Question

[Eric Caron]

Thanks Tom and Jennie,

That did the trick!  I'm all set now.  I just need to read more of the 
instructions and listen to tutorials.

Eric  
On Jan 17, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:

> Hi Eric,
>  
> If you tap and hold at the top of the screen, the menu should come up.
>  
> Jenn
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Eileen Misrahi
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Fleksy Question
>  
> Hi Eric, 
> 
> 
> A while ago when I upgraded to the new version, I had lots of problems in 
> purchasing the full version of Fleksy. The developers stated that there was a 
> bug when upgrading for some of us. I wrote to support and they were awesome 
> in fixing the issue and even gave me more then what I purchased the app for 
> in a gift card for my troubles. I recommend you contacting them. They were 
> most helpful. HTH. 
> 
> 
> Eileen 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 16, 2013, at 8:09 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
> Bill and others,
>  
> I would like to do the in app purchase for Fleksy but cant figure 
> out where it is.  When I first got Fleksy it started with a screen with a few 
> options including instructions.  After playing with the app a little it no 
> longer opened to that screen but now just starts and says tap once to start 
> or something like that.  I checked Fleksy settings in the settings area of 
> the phone and there is nothing I can do there.  In my current app I can't 
> figure out how to get out of the typing mode. 
>  
> Sorry for such a strange question but I'm stumped.
>  
> Eric Caron 
>  
> On Jan 16, 2013, at 6:00 PM, Bill Rappos  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all!
>  
> Thanks for checking out Fleksy!
>  
> In standard Fleksy typing mode, a swipe left will always delete the last word 
> entered, or the word currently being typed. 
>  
> It is possible, however, to delete by character, when in accutyping mode. 
> This is the typing mode that enables entering custom words: Tap and hold on 
> the keyboard and drag to your desired letter. Release. Every letter you input 
> this way, you can delete with a swipe left. 
>  
> You can at any time dive into the extensive instructions by visiting this 
> link: http://manual.fleksy.com
>  
> And feel free to contact the Fleksy team any time at support @ fleksy.com
>  
> Happy Typing!
>  
> Bill
>  
> 
> On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 2:36:50 PM UTC-8, Elizabeth Ulrich wrote:
> Hi Tina!  if you type in a wrong letter, flick your finger to the left, and 
> that should delete one letter.  I am trying to learn how to use Fleksy as 
> well, and I need to sit down and play with it for a good length of time. 
> 
> Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie 
> Westwood Church of God Internet Prayer Chain Coordinator 
> and Avon Representative 
> HTTP://WWW.YOURAVON.COM/ELIZABETHULRICH 
> 
> HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1 
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Re: Fleksy Question

[Eric Caron]

Hi Jenny and Tom,

Yes, That worked! Double tap and hold at the top of the screen brought up the 
update option and the instructions.  I'll be busy reading and listening to 
tutorials soon.  Thanks much.

Eric Caron 
On Jan 17, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:

> Hi Eric,
>  
> If you tap and hold at the top of the screen, the menu should come up.
>  
> Jenn
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Eileen Misrahi
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Fleksy Question
>  
> Hi Eric, 
> 
> 
> A while ago when I upgraded to the new version, I had lots of problems in 
> purchasing the full version of Fleksy. The developers stated that there was a 
> bug when upgrading for some of us. I wrote to support and they were awesome 
> in fixing the issue and even gave me more then what I purchased the app for 
> in a gift card for my troubles. I recommend you contacting them. They were 
> most helpful. HTH. 
> 
> 
> Eileen 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 16, 2013, at 8:09 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
> Bill and others,
>  
> I would like to do the in app purchase for Fleksy but cant figure 
> out where it is.  When I first got Fleksy it started with a screen with a few 
> options including instructions.  After playing with the app a little it no 
> longer opened to that screen but now just starts and says tap once to start 
> or something like that.  I checked Fleksy settings in the settings area of 
> the phone and there is nothing I can do there.  In my current app I can't 
> figure out how to get out of the typing mode. 
>  
> Sorry for such a strange question but I'm stumped.
>  
> Eric Caron 
>  
> On Jan 16, 2013, at 6:00 PM, Bill Rappos  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all!
>  
> Thanks for checking out Fleksy!
>  
> In standard Fleksy typing mode, a swipe left will always delete the last word 
> entered, or the word currently being typed. 
>  
> It is possible, however, to delete by character, when in accutyping mode. 
> This is the typing mode that enables entering custom words: Tap and hold on 
> the keyboard and drag to your desired letter. Release. Every letter you input 
> this way, you can delete with a swipe left. 
>  
> You can at any time dive into the extensive instructions by visiting this 
> link: http://manual.fleksy.com
>  
> And feel free to contact the Fleksy team any time at support @ fleksy.com
>  
> Happy Typing!
>  
> Bill
>  
> 
> On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 2:36:50 PM UTC-8, Elizabeth Ulrich wrote:
> Hi Tina!  if you type in a wrong letter, flick your finger to the left, and 
> that should delete one letter.  I am trying to learn how to use Fleksy as 
> well, and I need to sit down and play with it for a good length of time. 
> 
> Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie 
> Westwood Church of God Internet Prayer Chain Coordinator 
> and Avon Representative 
> HTTP://WWW.YOURAVON.COM/ELIZABETHULRICH 
> 
> HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1 
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Re: List recorder recording volume

[Eric Caron]

Hi Fanus,

No You can't increase the volume but you can increase the recording 
quality.  I think the default is 22 KHZ  you can up it to CD quality in the 
settings area.  That may give you the higher recording level you are asking 
about.  

Hope that helps.
 Eric Caron 


On Jan 17, 2013, at 2:25 AM, Fanus  wrote:

> Hi Eric
> Maybe I should have asked the question the other way round. 
> Can one increase the recording volume in List Recorder?
> Regards
> Fanus
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Eric Caron" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:19 AM
> Subject: Re: List recorder recording volume
> 
> 
> 
> The iPhone volume will not effect the recording.
> 
> Glad you are enjoying List Recorder.  It is one of my most 
> used and most useful apps.
> 
> Eric Caron
> 
> 
> On Jan 16, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Fanus  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello list
>> Does the iPhone volume effect the recording volume?
>> Regards
>> Fanus
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Re: List recorder recording volume

[Eric Caron]

Hi Sherrie,

  You can use the tilt forward gesture to go to the tool bar and the first 
button to b read is "Record New Item"  lift the phone back up  and a new 
recording will start.  So yes, the gesture can start the recording without any 
tapping.  You can also tilt the phone right and when you hear add item double 
tap and you will be in a new item and on the record button.

my preferred method to record quickly is to keep list recorder in my doc on the 
far left.  I open the app and then tap Record new item , which is also on the 
bottom left.  I'm then immediately making a recording. 

Hope this info helps. 

Eric Caron   

On Jan 17, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Sherrie  wrote:

> When I record without Blue Tooth or headphones attached the volume is fine. 
> If I am using my Blue Tooth or my Apple earphones the volume is so low it is 
> almost not there.  The volume on the headphones is set at a normal level if 
> that makes any difference.
> By the way, I bought the full version and use it mainly as a quick recorder 
> for notes so far but I like it and plan to learn to utilize it more.
> Another question for the expert---Is there a tilt gesture to go straight to a 
> new recording?   I guess I will have to listen to the podcasts again but it 
> is really tedious trying to find a specific fact in a podcast.
> Thanks in advance,
> Sherrie
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Eric Caron
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 11:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: List recorder recording volume
> 
> 
> The iPhone volume will not effect the recording.
> 
> Glad you are enjoying List Recorder.  It is one of my most used and most 
> useful apps.
> 
> Eric Caron
> 
> 
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>> Hello list
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>> Regards
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Re: List recorder recording volume

[Eric Caron]

Hi Negoslav, 

In more recent versions of List Recorder the Tilt Gestures are off by 
default.  you will need to turn them on in settings to use them.

Eric Caron 
On Jan 18, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Negoslav Sabev  wrote:

> Sorry but English is not my first language and I need some clerification. 
> What exactly is the tilt gesture? How to perform it right? I bought list 
> recorder some time ago and am still wondering.
> 
> Negoslav
> - Original Message - From: "Eric Caron" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 4:43 AM
> Subject: Re: List recorder recording volume
> 
> 
> Hi Sherrie,
> 
> You can use the tilt forward gesture to go to the tool bar and the first 
> button to b read is "Record New Item"  lift the phone back up  and a new 
> recording will start.  So yes, the gesture can start the recording without 
> any tapping.  You can also tilt the phone right and when you hear add item 
> double tap and you will be in a new item and on the record button.
> 
> my preferred method to record quickly is to keep list recorder in my doc on 
> the far left.  I open the app and then tap Record new item , which is also on 
> the bottom left.  I'm then immediately making a recording.
> 
> Hope this info helps.
> 
> Eric Caron
> 
> On Jan 17, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Sherrie  wrote:
> 
>> When I record without Blue Tooth or headphones attached the volume is fine. 
>> If I am using my Blue Tooth or my Apple earphones the volume is so low it is 
>> almost not there.  The volume on the headphones is set at a normal level if 
>> that makes any difference.
>> By the way, I bought the full version and use it mainly as a quick recorder 
>> for notes so far but I like it and plan to learn to utilize it more.
>> Another question for the expert---Is there a tilt gesture to go straight to 
>> a new recording?   I guess I will have to listen to the podcasts again but 
>> it is really tedious trying to find a specific fact in a podcast.
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Sherrie
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Eric Caron
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 11:19 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: List recorder recording volume
>> 
>> 
>> The iPhone volume will not effect the recording.
>> 
>> Glad you are enjoying List Recorder.  It is one of my most used and most 
>> useful apps.
>> 
>> Eric Caron
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 16, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Fanus  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello list
>>> Does the iPhone volume effect the recording volume?
>>> Regards
>>> Fanus
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Re: Volume of keyboard while on a call

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Hi Anthony,

Can you explain how you raise voice Over volume wit the router?  this 
keypad issue still has me stumped.

Eric Caron 
On Apr 15, 2012, at 8:28 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:

> Hi Shirley;
> 
> It's a matter of lowering the volume of the call with the volume
> buttons on the side of the phone and, raising the volume of Voiceover
> with the roter.
> 
> Anthony
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone!
> 
> On Apr 15, 2012, at 7:54 PM, Shirley Chesson  wrote:
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>> When I am on a call  and I need to use numbers the numbers are spoken so 
>> softly that i can't hear them over the call itself
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Volume of keyboard while on a call

[Eric Caron]

Hi Anthony,

Can you explain how you raise the volume of Voice Over with the router? 
 This keypad issue still has me stumped.

Eric Caron 

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> 
> It's a matter of lowering the volume of the call with the volume
> buttons on the side of the phone and, raising the volume of Voiceover
> with the roter.
> 
> Anthony
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone!
> 
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>> When I am on a call  and I need to use numbers the numbers are spoken so 
>> softly that i can't hear them over the call itself
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: jawbone bluetooth

[Eric Caron]

Does this earpiece work with Siri as well?  Do you users have any drawbacks to 
mention?  

Eric Caron 

On Apr 16, 2012, at 2:25 PM, Jon Pierson wrote:

> Hi Shelley,
> I have this one and I love it.
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Of Shelley Corcoran
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> 
> Amazon has this on sale today.  Anyone have this?
> 
> Gold Box Deal of the Day: Over 45% Off the Jawbone ERA Bluetooth Headset The
> Jawbone ERA Bluetooth headset is equipped with military-grade NoiseAssassin
> 3.0, the latest version of Jawbone's industry-first noise and wind canceling
> technology. Originally developed for use by tank commanders and helicopter
> pilots, NoiseAssassin 3.0 eliminates background noise and auto-adjusts
> inbound call volume and intelligibility to your environment. Whether you're
> at a noisy ball game or on the road, you'll always hear and be heard. Today
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Re: List Recorder and recursive lists

[Eric Caron]

Hi Thomas,

I'm not sure what you are asking List Recorder to do?  Perhaps you 
could explain again what you want it to do another way?  I think the word 
recursively is confusing me in this context. 

>From what I understood so far you wanted to make a grocery list and then in 
>that list make sub lists by category say Dairy, then inside that list would be 
>the dairy items, like milk Eggs, cream, and butter. 
You would sort the grocery list manually in the order you want perhaps the 
order you travel through the store and the items in the sub list 
alphabetically.  All this is possible using List Recorder's title text area and 
sort options. 
YOu can then check and uncheck items to indicate if you purchased them 
or not. 

Can you explain the rest of your question again.  sorry about not following 
your question. 

Eric Caron 

On Apr 15, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Thomas Stivers wrote:

> Hi All,
>  
> I just started using list recorder, and for my first practice list I wanted 
> to put together a grocery list system. My idea is to put all of the items I 
> get on a regular basis into sublists named with their category I.E. location 
> in the store. The list of categories is sorted manually and all the sublists 
> are sorted alphabetically. I was hoping I could check all the items in the 
> sublists and then from within the parent list group all the checked items 
> into a single flat list recursively. I can’t see how to make this work. Is it 
> possible? If not I’d love to see a perform on checked items recursively 
> toggle in the settings to make it work the way I want.
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Re: List Recorder and recursive lists

[Eric Caron]

Hi Thomas, Paul, and others,

I think I understand what you are asking for now.  Lets double check. .

What you are looking for is a way to have List Recorder know what items are 
checked not only in the current list but in the sub lists inside  that list.  
Then You would like List Recorder to have the option to perform   actions   on 
all these checked items from the parent list and sub lists.  specifically you 
would like to copy these items to a new list while leaving the original items 
unmoved from their current lists.
I suppose you might want additional options such as deleting, or unchecking all 
items, or moving all items from the parent and sub lists.

Is this the new feature you are looking for ?

Currently action preformed on checked items is limited to the parent list only. 
 Also, items can be moved but there is not a option to copy checked items while 
leaving the original in place.  
So in addition to recursively taking action on checked items in the 
parent and child or sub lists, a new option  to copy checked items rather then 
move them would be needed.

Am I understanding your request completely now?

I have a list of user requested features that I regularly review with 
the developer and I would be glad to include this, as long as I have it right!

eric Caron  
 



On Apr 17, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Thomas Stivers wrote:

> This concept would also come in handy for ordering supplies or managing an 
> inventory.
> 
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:54 AM, Paul Erkens  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Eric,
>> 
>> Well it seems like a good idea to me as well. Before I go into the 
>> supermarket, I go over a list of things that I might need. I call it my 
>> ideas list. From all separate grocery lists in the past, that I usually keep 
>> over time, I once went over all the short lists, and created one large ideas 
>> list for shopping. For example, all meat kinds that I ever tried and that I 
>> remember I like, are on the list of ideas now. So from now on, when I think 
>> of what we will eat this week, I go over the list to pick up ideas. It's got 
>> 20 or so different kinds of meat, 10 dairy things like milk, eggs, yoghurt, 
>> cheese, for vegetables I have cauliflower cucumber etc etc, drinks like 
>> orange juice, coke and so on.
>> 
>> When compiling the grocery list for today, I go over the ideas and pick what 
>> I want.
>> The list says milk. Need it now? Yup, so I record milk in this week's small 
>> grocery list. Meat balls? No, not this time, so I skip it on the ideas list. 
>> Hamburger then? Yeah good idea for tomorrow. I put hamburgers on my list for 
>> this week.
>> 
>> If Thomas and I, are hoping for the same thing, then it is just that. Once 
>> you have a number of lists created with things you might want, and you go 
>> shopping, you want to check all items from all those lists, and I would like 
>> them, but only the items that I checked, in my current list of groceries. 
>> Hope this helps clarify the idea.
>> Paul.
>> On Apr 16, 2012, at 11:58 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Thomas,
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure what you are asking List Recorder to do?  Perhaps you 
>>> could explain again what you want it to do another way?  I think the word 
>>> recursively is confusing me in this context. 
>>> 
>>> From what I understood so far you wanted to make a grocery list and then in 
>>> that list make sub lists by category say Dairy, then inside that list would 
>>> be the dairy items, like milk Eggs, cream, and butter. 
>>> You would sort the grocery list manually in the order you want perhaps the 
>>> order you travel through the store and the items in the sub list 
>>> alphabetically.  All this is possible using List Recorder's title text area 
>>> and sort options. 
>>> YOu can then check and uncheck items to indicate if you purchased them 
>>> or not. 
>>> 
>>> Can you explain the rest of your question again.  sorry about not following 
>>> your question. 
>>> 
>>> Eric Caron 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 15, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Thomas Stivers wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>  
>>>> I just started using list recorder, and for my first practice list I 
>>>> wanted to put together a grocery list system. My idea is to put all of the 
>>>> items I get on a regular basis into sublists named with their category 
>>>> I.E. location in the store. The list of categories is sorted manually and 
>>>> all the sublists are sorted alphabetically. I was hoping I could check all 
>>>> the items in the sublists an

Re: List Recorder and recursive lists

[Eric Caron]

Hi Tom and others,

It's interesting but no one has actually asked for a copy item or list 
function.  Most people must be either moving them or placing them where they 
want.  

Also, Tom, I can picture a way to do what you want with the current 
feature set in List Recorder but it would involve use of some extra steps and 
some advanced features.  Still if you want to do it now I could explain.

I did some advanced feature podcasts at applevis.com.  The podcast on 
exporting and importing would teach you the steps you would need. 

You could export your parent list then import it back.  This would give you a 
copy.  You could then check the items you want to keep or the ones you want to 
delete in the copied list structure.  You then delete the unwanted items and 
you are all set.  It really wouldn't be that hard.  

Here are some podcast links that include the export and import function.
Recording and Item detail 
http://www.applevis.com/podcasts/episodes/exploring-advanced-features-list-recorder-part-1-recording-items


Exporting and importing 
http://www.applevis.com/podcasts/episodes/exploring-advanced-features-list-recorder-part-2-exporting-and-importing-lists-and


Tilt Gestures 
http://www.applevis.com/podcasts/episodes/exploring-advanced-features-list-recorder-part-3-using-tilt-gestures-operate-app


Eric Caron 
On Apr 17, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Thomas Stivers wrote:

> That sounds exactly like what I am looking for. I hadn't realized there was 
> not already a way to copy checked items.
> 
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Thomas, Paul, and others,
>> 
>> I think I understand what you are asking for now.  Lets double check. .
>> 
>> What you are looking for is a way to have List Recorder know what items are 
>> checked not only in the current list but in the sub lists inside  that list. 
>>  Then You would like List Recorder to have the option to perform   actions   
>> on all these checked items from the parent list and sub lists.  specifically 
>> you would like to copy these items to a new list while leaving the original 
>> items unmoved from their current lists.
>> I suppose you might want additional options such as deleting, or unchecking 
>> all items, or moving all items from the parent and sub lists.
>> 
>> Is this the new feature you are looking for ?
>> 
>> Currently action preformed on checked items is limited to the parent list 
>> only.  Also, items can be moved but there is not a option to copy checked 
>> items while leaving the original in place.  
>>  So in addition to recursively taking action on checked items in the 
>> parent and child or sub lists, a new option  to copy checked items rather 
>> then move them would be needed.
>> 
>> Am I understanding your request completely now?
>> 
>>  I have a list of user requested features that I regularly review with 
>> the developer and I would be glad to include this, as long as I have it 
>> right!
>> 
>> eric Caron  
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Thomas Stivers wrote:
>> 
>>> This concept would also come in handy for ordering supplies or managing an 
>>> inventory.
>>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:54 AM, Paul Erkens  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Eric,
>>>> 
>>>> Well it seems like a good idea to me as well. Before I go into the 
>>>> supermarket, I go over a list of things that I might need. I call it my 
>>>> ideas list. From all separate grocery lists in the past, that I usually 
>>>> keep over time, I once went over all the short lists, and created one 
>>>> large ideas list for shopping. For example, all meat kinds that I ever 
>>>> tried and that I remember I like, are on the list of ideas now. So from 
>>>> now on, when I think of what we will eat this week, I go over the list to 
>>>> pick up ideas. It's got 20 or so different kinds of meat, 10 dairy things 
>>>> like milk, eggs, yoghurt, cheese, for vegetables I have cauliflower 
>>>> cucumber etc etc, drinks like orange juice, coke and so on.
>>>> 
>>>> When compiling the grocery list for today, I go over the ideas and pick 
>>>> what I want.
>>>> The list says milk. Need it now? Yup, so I record milk in this week's 
>>>> small grocery list. Meat balls? No, not this time, so I skip it on the 
>>>> ideas list. Hamburger then? Yeah good idea for tomorrow. I put hamburgers 
>>>> on my list for this week.
>>>> 
>>>> If Thomas and I, are hoping for the same thing, then it is j

List Recorder and using Tilt Gestures

[Eric Caron]

Hi Listers,

I recently did another podcast showing how to use the tilt gestures in List 
Recorder.  It is available at applevis.com.  I also placed the link below. 

This will show how to use tilt gestures such as tilting the phone to 
the right to start and stop play back or recording.  And how to delete a item 
quickly with a back tilt.

I originally found the gestures confusing but now find them very helpful and 
actually wish other apps used them. 

Hope this podcast is helpful to List Recorder users.

Eric Caron 

http://www.applevis.com/podcasts/episodes/exploring-advanced-features-list-recorder-part-3-using-tilt-gestures-operate-app

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typetophone tip

[Eric Caron]

Hello Listers,

I just listened to another excellent podcast from David Goodbridge at 
visionaustralia.com web site.  He discussed typetophone.  this mac app cost 
$4.99 US and allows your mac keyboard to input directly to your iPhone.  I have 
a dedicated bluetooth keyboard for this so was skeptical at first.  But, I was 
intrigued by the fact that text could be copied from the mac to the iPhone.  
this seemed to open up all kinds of possibilities.  
During his podcast David mentioned that the keys when pressed together 
do not always work the first time.  I noticed this right away when playing with 
the app.  My bluetooth keyboard was much more consistent and responsive.  Then 
I discovered that if I pressed a two key combination slightly differently I got 
consistent results that made using the typetophone app more responsive.  For 
example, if I press the up and down arrow together I might have to do this many 
times to get the phone to react.  but if I press the up arrow and then quickly 
the down aero it works every time.  It does not work the other way around, down 
arrow followed by quick up arrow.  Also quick nab seemed to toggle better if I 
pressed left and right slightly after each other and not the usual simultaneous 
push. 
I think this app will be very nice as it is easier to use one keyboard 
to control my devices rather then changing to a different keyboard.  It looks 
like it will be easy to change between iOS devices for those who have several 
devices. 
Also, my dedicated bluetooth keyboard and the mac seem happy to both work on 
the iPhone at the same time.

Hope this tip is useful.  

If others find ways to make this app work better please share.

Definitely listen to David's podcast before trying it out. 

Eric Caron 

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Re: List Recorder and recursive lists

[Eric Caron]

Hi Thomas,

Wow! and you say you only just bought List Recorder?  Though it turns 
out that is a convenient and easy way to make many titled items quickly, I have 
not tried it in about two years of List Recorder use.  Your comment caused me 
to give it a try and it worked really well.  I was hoping to combine this with 
my new use of typetophone.  I was hoping to be able to copy text from the Mac 
directly to the iPhone.  So far I can not duplicate what David Woodbridge 
recently demonstrated on visionaustralia.org.  With that working I would be 
able to organize all kinds of text easily to List Recorder and any app that 
uses text. 

I'm really impressed with your use of advanced List Recorder features. It took 
me a lot longer to explore and use such features. 
Please keep us posted on your discoveries and feature requests and ideas.


Eric Caron 

On Apr 17, 2012, at 8:31 PM, Thomas Stivers wrote:

> I hadn't considered doing it that way. Thanks for the tip. Another trick I 
> worked out is to create a bunch of items in a list at once jusg go anywhere 
> you have a text edit box, type or dictate all the list items saying newline 
> or pressing return between them, copy the text to the clipboard, and finally 
> back in list recorder  choose list commands, insert, titles from clipboard.
> 
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Tom and others,
>> 
>>  It's interesting but no one has actually asked for a copy item or list 
>> function.  Most people must be either moving them or placing them where they 
>> want.  
>> 
>>  Also, Tom, I can picture a way to do what you want with the current 
>> feature set in List Recorder but it would involve use of some extra steps 
>> and some advanced features.  Still if you want to do it now I could explain.
>> 
>>  I did some advanced feature podcasts at applevis.com.  The podcast on 
>> exporting and importing would teach you the steps you would need.  
>> 
>> You could export your parent list then import it back.  This would give you 
>> a copy.  You could then check the items you want to keep or the ones you 
>> want to delete in the copied list structure.  You then delete the unwanted 
>> items and you are all set.  It really wouldn't be that hard.  
>> 
>> Here are some podcast links that include the export and import function.
>> Recording and Item detail 
>> http://www.applevis.com/podcasts/episodes/exploring-advanced-features-list-recorder-part-1-recording-items
>> 
>> 
>> Exporting and importing 
>> http://www.applevis.com/podcasts/episodes/exploring-advanced-features-list-recorder-part-2-exporting-and-importing-lists-and
>> 
>> 
>> Tilt Gestures 
>> http://www.applevis.com/podcasts/episodes/exploring-advanced-features-list-recorder-part-3-using-tilt-gestures-operate-app
>> 
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Thomas Stivers wrote:
>> 
>>> That sounds exactly like what I am looking for. I hadn't realized there was 
>>> not already a way to copy checked items.
>>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Thomas, Paul, and others,
>>>> 
>>>> I think I understand what you are asking for now.  Lets double check. .
>>>> 
>>>> What you are looking for is a way to have List Recorder know what items 
>>>> are checked not only in the current list but in the sub lists inside  that 
>>>> list.  Then You would like List Recorder to have the option to perform   
>>>> actions   on all these checked items from the parent list and sub lists.  
>>>> specifically you would like to copy these items to a new list while 
>>>> leaving the original items unmoved from their current lists.
>>>> I suppose you might want additional options such as deleting, or 
>>>> unchecking all items, or moving all items from the parent and sub lists.
>>>> 
>>>> Is this the new feature you are looking for ?
>>>> 
>>>> Currently action preformed on checked items is limited to the parent list 
>>>> only.  Also, items can be moved but there is not a option to copy checked 
>>>> items while leaving the original in place.  
>>>>So in addition to recursively taking action on checked items in the 
>>>> parent and child or sub lists, a new option  to copy checked items rather 
>>>> then move them would be needed.
>>>> 
>>>> Am I understanding your request completely now?
>>>> 
>>>>I have a list of user requested features that I 

Re: voiceover anouncing clock time every minute

[Eric Caron]

Hi Dave,

This happens if you leave the Voice Over focus on the clock.  Voice 
Over will then keep announcing the time each minute as it changes.  Just be 
sure the focus is somewhere else and this will not happen.  Or if you are in a 
situation where you want to keep track of the time then you have the option to 
do so.  This is probably also what is happening to you with the phone when you 
keep hearing elapsed time.  This is helpful for those needing to keep careful 
time of the usage but if not helpful just change the position of the focus  of 
Voice Over.

Hope this helps.

Eric Caron 
On Apr 18, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Dave Bahr wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I've noticed that if I leave voiceover unattended, like if the phone is in my 
> pocket and i've just used it, vo will keep saying the time, the clock time, 
> nearly every minute. Sometimes the screen will have been locked and it still 
> does this. One time I had left it on my desk, and it was still announcing the 
> time when I returned half an hour or so later. Does anyone else have this 
> problem? I'm hoping I'm explaining it right. n
> 
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Trouble pasting in typetophone

[Eric Caron]

Hello Listers,

After using typetophone, a Mac App recently reviewed on 
visionaustralia.org by David Woodbridge, I have found I can not copy text to my 
iPhone.  that is when I follow the directions I only get part of the text.  I 
suspect this may have happened to David in his podcast as well as there was a 
typing error.  In fact, he probably typed the sample correctly and typetophone 
probably made the error.
Has anyone found a way to consistently paste text to to the iPhone 
using this app?

You are supposed to be able to select and copy text on the mac as usual then in 
the typetophone app press " Command Shift V"  When I do this only part of the 
text shows up in the phone text area.  This would be very handy if it actually 
worked. 

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Re: Trouble pasting in typetophone

[Eric Caron]

Hi Esther,

I spent some more time trying to trouble shoot with typetophone.  I was 
not successful. either with command V or with Command shift V.  In both cases I 
got some text but it was not the complete three lines of text I had selected.  
Further it seemed different each time I tried to paste it in.  When I tried 
command Option shift v nothing was entered.

The app seems to be working well for me as a way to enter text and 
navigate on the iPhone but sadly that paste option I was looking for isn't 
working for me.  I'm hopeful now that you have said that there have been 
updates that perhaps this will be fixed in the future.  I appreciate the tips 
and background. 

If your updated version is working that would be great to know.

Eric Caron

On Apr 18, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Eric,
> 
> I'll have to check this out with the latest version of Type2Phone, but my 
> experience was that the app behaved more stably in the version that I used in 
> December.  You can check the Mac-Access list discussion archives about this 
> for December and February.  Both posts used (different) earlier versions of 
> the Type2Phone app than the latest update (which is from March).  I think 
> that Daniela has also been using this app since February, so she may have 
> some comments.  What happens if you use Command-V to paste instead of 
> Command-Shift-V?Incidentally, I think that the two commands are usually 
> either Command-V to paste, or Command-Option-Shift-V to paste matching the 
> text style of the document you're editing and pasting into.
> 
> HTH. Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:05 AM, Eric Caron wrote:
> 
>> Hello Listers,
>> 
>>  After using typetophone, a Mac App recently reviewed on 
>> visionaustralia.org by David Woodbridge, I have found I can not copy text to 
>> my iPhone.  that is when I follow the directions I only get part of the 
>> text.  I suspect this may have happened to David in his podcast as well as 
>> there was a typing error.  In fact, he probably typed the sample correctly 
>> and typetophone probably made the error.
>>  Has anyone found a way to consistently paste text to to the iPhone 
>> using this app?
>> 
>> You are supposed to be able to select and copy text on the mac as usual then 
>> in the typetophone app press " Command Shift V"  When I do this only part of 
>> the text shows up in the phone text area.  This would be very handy if it 
>> actually worked. 
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
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Digit-Eyes and Canon MP620 printer

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hello listers,

If anyone out there is using a Canon MP 620 printer with Digit-Eyes I'd 
love to find out if you had any difficulty getting this printer to print labels 
 correctly.  I'll be checking in with Cannon and trying a different package of 
labels soon, but in the meantime I can't seem to get the Avery 8160 labels to 
work with this printer.  they print just a bit too high.  As this seems to be a 
pretty common printer I'm wondering if anyone has all ready solved this 
problem.  Also if it is working well for you perhaps you could let me know 
which labels you are using successfully with this printer?

I've been very impressed with the Digit-Eyes web site and the available 
support.  But, I have this one last step to conquer, before exploring all the 
possibilities of this app. 

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Re: Digit-Eyes and Canon MP620 printer

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Hi Christina,

Thank you for this suggestion.  Can you tell me how to open the PDF in 
Preview?  I only know how to follow the steps on the Digit-Eyes site and open 
the PDF when I press the link.  I'm entering unknown territory here.

  I never thought to question the browser or the PDF area.  I just assumed it 
was the printer or something in my printer settings.

Once I have sighted help I could try other browsers on the mac or my 
virtual machine.  However opening in Preview sounds like it would be the 
easiest solution.

So, how do I have the page open in Preview?

Eric Caron  
On Apr 22, 2012, at 8:58 PM, Christina wrote:

> I had a similar problem.  I was using safari browser on my mac.  For some 
> reason if I printed from the Adobe safari plug-in the labels did not print in 
> the correct spot.  However, if I opened the pdf with preview instead of the 
> browser plug-in, it printed wonderfully.
> 
> Good luck,
> Christina
> On Apr 22, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
> 
>> hello listers,
>> 
>>  If anyone out there is using a Canon MP 620 printer with Digit-Eyes I'd 
>> love to find out if you had any difficulty getting this printer to print 
>> labels  correctly.  I'll be checking in with Cannon and trying a different 
>> package of labels soon, but in the meantime I can't seem to get the Avery 
>> 8160 labels to work with this printer.  they print just a bit too high.  As 
>> this seems to be a pretty common printer I'm wondering if anyone has all 
>> ready solved this problem.  Also if it is working well for you perhaps you 
>> could let me know which labels you are using successfully with this printer?
>> 
>>  I've been very impressed with the Digit-Eyes web site and the available 
>> support.  But, I have this one last step to conquer, before exploring all 
>> the possibilities of this app. 
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
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Notes and cloud

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Hi listers,

I've been experimenting more with iCloud in general and having some 
success.  Recently I tried to use the Apple Notes app to quickly sink info to 
and from my iPhone and my computer.  I've had almost complete success.  I'm 
hoping someone can help with the last step.
I set up my phone to sink with iCloud and made sure that my computer was also 
set up with notes and mail set to sink in iCloud.  

Now when I make a note on my phone it shows up immediately in my in box in 
mail.  I would like the opposite to also happen but am having trouble.


I press command Control N, when in mail and make a new note.  It doesn't sink 
over iCloud.  When I sink my phone with iTunes it does sink and the note shows 
up on my phone.

I would like to use this as a way of pasting text into a note on my  computer, 
then having it show up on my iPhone in Notes.  I could then copy and paste it 
into List recorder or other iPhone app.

On the other direction it is sometimes nice to make a note and then find it 
waiting for me in my mailbox.

So, I'm able to sink using iCloud from my iPhone to my Mac but not the other 
way around.  yet, If I sink using iTunes it works.

I am not using iCloud backup but didn't think this was the problem as iCloud is 
working one direction from the phone to computer.  I just need the other 
direction to work.

Perhaps when I create a new note it is not considered to be from iCloud, as 
there is also a notes folder under on My Mac.  How could I be sure the note is 
under iCloud?

Assistance is greatly appreciated.

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Game Center success and quesiton

[Eric Caron]

Hello Listers,

I found Game Center a challenge in itself.  I am now able to use Game 
Center to play roll it with friends.  I'm wondering if others have found games 
that they can play agains sighted or blind friends over game Center.  I'm not 
understanding the Game Center well enough to do a tutorial podcast so I'm 
hoping someone else will. 

So any Game Center Games like Roll it that work well with Voiceover?


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Re: Problems with staples labels that affect iPhone scanning?

[Eric Caron]

Hi List and others 

Using Avery labels 5160 3 across 10 down on my HP Laser jet they worked well.

Using Avery Label 8160 3 across 10 down on My Canon mp620 Ink jet printer I 
can't get the code to be centered.

I've ordered Avery 6570 labels which are square and a bit bigger.  I'm looking 
forward to trying and testing them  and reporting back.

If I ever get the Canon Printer working I'll certainly let Nancy and the list 
know.

I did not try Staple brand labels.  

Eric Caron 


On Apr 28, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Nancy M wrote:

> I've heard from three members of this board in the past week with issues that 
> involve printing Digit-Eyes labels on label stock that is three labels across 
> and 10 down.
> 
> This is a label where the geometry is very precise and where the code has to 
> be placed exactly, so it is the label that is most likely to have printing 
> problems, but this is unusual.
> 
>  We have at least one person who is printing the labels perfectly, but was 
> having problems reading them with her iPhone.  When she switched from Staples 
> "equivalent" labels to Avery ones, the problem went away.
> 
> I'll be getting samples from another of our customers, but I'd realy like to 
> know if there is anyone else who reads this board who has had issues?  
> 
> If there is a fundamental problem with the Staples labels, I'd like to put 
> the information on the site and warn people not to buy them.
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Re: Digit-Eyes and Canon MP620 printer

[Eric Caron]

Hi Christina,

Thank you for your help.  Your directions worked just fine, as far as 
saving the PDF.  I then tried printing from Preview but again my labels are off 
by a quarter of a inch.  I'm probably just going to give up and instead use 
different labels at work on my HP Laser printer.  I just preferred being able 
to use my home printer, the canon MP620 Ink jet.  this way I could print what I 
need and when I need them.  I also hope other users of Digit-Eyes using  this 
printer are not having this problem. 

warmly.

ERic Caron 

On Apr 24, 2012, at 6:20 PM, Christina wrote:

> I think there are a couple of ways to do this.  When on the link, you can 
> press the control plus a mouse click to bring up the context menu.  This only 
> works if your mouse pointer is following the VO cursor.  Then choose the 
> option you feel most comfortable with like download link.  Another option is 
> to go ahead and open the pdf as you usually would in Safari, then go to the 
> File menu and choose save as.  Then save the pdf where ever you like.  Then 
> you can open up preview then open the document in preview.  I apologize, it's 
> been a long time since I've done this.  I hope this all makes sense.   
> 
> Let me know if you get stuck,
> Christina  
> On Apr 24, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
> 
>> Hi Christina,
>> 
>>  Thank you for this suggestion.  Can you tell me how to open the PDF in 
>> Preview?  I only know how to follow the steps on the Digit-Eyes site and 
>> open the PDF when I press the link.  I'm entering unknown territory here.
>> 
>> I never thought to question the browser or the PDF area.  I just assumed it 
>> was the printer or something in my printer settings.
>> 
>>  Once I have sighted help I could try other browsers on the mac or my 
>> virtual machine.  However opening in Preview sounds like it would be the 
>> easiest solution.
>> 
>> So, how do I have the page open in Preview?
>> 
>> Eric Caron  
>> On Apr 22, 2012, at 8:58 PM, Christina wrote:
>> 
>>> I had a similar problem.  I was using safari browser on my mac.  For some 
>>> reason if I printed from the Adobe safari plug-in the labels did not print 
>>> in the correct spot.  However, if I opened the pdf with preview instead of 
>>> the browser plug-in, it printed wonderfully.
>>> 
>>> Good luck,
>>> Christina
>>> On Apr 22, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
>>> 
>>>> hello listers,
>>>> 
>>>>If anyone out there is using a Canon MP 620 printer with Digit-Eyes I'd 
>>>> love to find out if you had any difficulty getting this printer to print 
>>>> labels  correctly.  I'll be checking in with Cannon and trying a different 
>>>> package of labels soon, but in the meantime I can't seem to get the Avery 
>>>> 8160 labels to work with this printer.  they print just a bit too high.  
>>>> As this seems to be a pretty common printer I'm wondering if anyone has 
>>>> all ready solved this problem.  Also if it is working well for you perhaps 
>>>> you could let me know which labels you are using successfully with this 
>>>> printer?
>>>> 
>>>>I've been very impressed with the Digit-Eyes web site and the available 
>>>> support.  But, I have this one last step to conquer, before exploring all 
>>>> the possibilities of this app. 
>>>> 
>>>> Eric Caron 
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Re: Digit-Eyes and Canon MP620 printer

[Eric Caron]

Hello list,

For anyone following this small thread, I am still unsuccessful 
printing Digit-Eyes labels using my Canon MP620 printer.  I tried Christina's 
suggestion of printing from preview and the results were the same.  Using the 
labels that are 30 per page they print about 1 quarter of a Inch too high.  
Using my work HP laser printer with different Avery labels, but also 30 per 
page, they print fine.

I ordered more labels that are a better shape for Digit-Eyes and though I meant 
to get labels I could use on both Ink Jet and Laser printers, the receipt shows 
they are Laser labels.  Thus, I'm going to use my work printer.

One big tip for new users like me.  Once you get the labels printed they are 
much easier to use if the label is almost completely clear of extra white 
space.  My secretary used a paper cutter to cut my labels into strips of square 
Digit-Eyes labels, rather then the long rectangular shape.  This made all the 
difference for me concerning recognition time with Digit-Eyes.  I went from 
beginners frustration to efficient fast user just with that change.  The long 
labels left too much guess work for me to center the camera.  Though I thought 
I was centered I rarely was.  Once I had a square label things worked much  
better!

I am looking forward to trying the close to square, slightly larger,  1 and 1/4 
by 1 and 3/4 quarter inch labels I ordered.  I'll certainly send a message with 
a update.

Best.

Eric Caron 


 
On Apr 24, 2012, at 4:28 PM, Eric Caron wrote:

> Hi Christina,
> 
>   Thank you for this suggestion.  Can you tell me how to open the PDF in 
> Preview?  I only know how to follow the steps on the Digit-Eyes site and open 
> the PDF when I press the link.  I'm entering unknown territory here.
> 
>  I never thought to question the browser or the PDF area.  I just assumed it 
> was the printer or something in my printer settings.
> 
>   Once I have sighted help I could try other browsers on the mac or my 
> virtual machine.  However opening in Preview sounds like it would be the 
> easiest solution.
> 
> So, how do I have the page open in Preview?
> 
> Eric Caron  
> On Apr 22, 2012, at 8:58 PM, Christina wrote:
> 
>> I had a similar problem.  I was using safari browser on my mac.  For some 
>> reason if I printed from the Adobe safari plug-in the labels did not print 
>> in the correct spot.  However, if I opened the pdf with preview instead of 
>> the browser plug-in, it printed wonderfully.
>> 
>> Good luck,
>> Christina
>> On Apr 22, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
>> 
>>> hello listers,
>>> 
>>> If anyone out there is using a Canon MP 620 printer with Digit-Eyes I'd 
>>> love to find out if you had any difficulty getting this printer to print 
>>> labels  correctly.  I'll be checking in with Cannon and trying a different 
>>> package of labels soon, but in the meantime I can't seem to get the Avery 
>>> 8160 labels to work with this printer.  they print just a bit too high.  As 
>>> this seems to be a pretty common printer I'm wondering if anyone has all 
>>> ready solved this problem.  Also if it is working well for you perhaps you 
>>> could let me know which labels you are using successfully with this printer?
>>> 
>>> I've been very impressed with the Digit-Eyes web site and the available 
>>> support.  But, I have this one last step to conquer, before exploring all 
>>> the possibilities of this app. 
>>> 
>>> Eric Caron 
>>> 
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Re: Digit-Eyes and Canon MP620 printer

[Eric Caron]

Hi Rick,
Yes, AVery 6570 are the labels I ordered.  On the site it didn't say laser or 
ink jet, but on the order receipt it says laser.  Hopefully the package will 
clearly state if it can be used in both styles of printer.  I was beginning to 
wonder if maybe the number like 6570 only applied to size and we had to specify 
laser or Ink jet. 

Thanksf for your note.  I'll remain optimistic. 

Eric Caron 




On Apr 29, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:

> Eric,
> 
> Not sure if you ordered the same labels I did.  I ordered them from amazon
> since I have Amazon Prime.  They are the Avery 6570 labels and it states
> that they are for both laser and inkjet printers.  Just FYI.
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Eric Caron
> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 12:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Digit-Eyes and Canon MP620 printer
> 
> Hello list,
> 
>   For anyone following this small thread, I am still unsuccessful
> printing Digit-Eyes labels using my Canon MP620 printer.  I tried
> Christina's suggestion of printing from preview and the results were the
> same.  Using the labels that are 30 per page they print about 1 quarter of a
> Inch too high.  Using my work HP laser printer with different Avery labels,
> but also 30 per page, they print fine.
> 
> I ordered more labels that are a better shape for Digit-Eyes and though I
> meant to get labels I could use on both Ink Jet and Laser printers, the
> receipt shows they are Laser labels.  Thus, I'm going to use my work
> printer.
> 
> One big tip for new users like me.  Once you get the labels printed they are
> much easier to use if the label is almost completely clear of extra white
> space.  My secretary used a paper cutter to cut my labels into strips of
> square Digit-Eyes labels, rather then the long rectangular shape.  This made
> all the difference for me concerning recognition time with Digit-Eyes.  I
> went from beginners frustration to efficient fast user just with that
> change.  The long labels left too much guess work for me to center the
> camera.  Though I thought I was centered I rarely was.  Once I had a square
> label things worked much  better!
> 
> I am looking forward to trying the close to square, slightly larger,  1 and
> 1/4 by 1 and 3/4 quarter inch labels I ordered.  I'll certainly send a
> message with a update.
> 
> Best.
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 24, 2012, at 4:28 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
> 
>> Hi Christina,
>> 
>>  Thank you for this suggestion.  Can you tell me how to open the PDF
> in Preview?  I only know how to follow the steps on the Digit-Eyes site and
> open the PDF when I press the link.  I'm entering unknown territory here.
>> 
>> I never thought to question the browser or the PDF area.  I just assumed
> it was the printer or something in my printer settings.
>> 
>>  Once I have sighted help I could try other browsers on the mac or my
> virtual machine.  However opening in Preview sounds like it would be the
> easiest solution.
>> 
>> So, how do I have the page open in Preview?
>> 
>> Eric Caron  
>> On Apr 22, 2012, at 8:58 PM, Christina wrote:
>> 
>>> I had a similar problem.  I was using safari browser on my mac.  For some
> reason if I printed from the Adobe safari plug-in the labels did not print
> in the correct spot.  However, if I opened the pdf with preview instead of
> the browser plug-in, it printed wonderfully.
>>> 
>>> Good luck,
>>> Christina
>>> On Apr 22, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
>>> 
>>>> hello listers,
>>>> 
>>>>If anyone out there is using a Canon MP 620 printer with Digit-Eyes
> I'd love to find out if you had any difficulty getting this printer to print
> labels  correctly.  I'll be checking in with Cannon and trying a different
> package of labels soon, but in the meantime I can't seem to get the Avery
> 8160 labels to work with this printer.  they print just a bit too high.  As
> this seems to be a pretty common printer I'm wondering if anyone has all
> ready solved this problem.  Also if it is working well for you perhaps you
> could let me know which labels you are using successfully with this printer?
>>>> 
>>>>I've been very impressed with the Digit-Eyes web site and the
> available support.  But, I have this one last step to conquer, before
> exploring all the possibilities of this app. 
>>>> 
>>>> Eric Caron 
>>>> 
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Re: Game Center success and quesiton

[Eric Caron]

Hi Scott,

I'm no expert and I find both Game Center and Roll it a bit quirky, but 
I'm able to play over the internet fairly consistently with friends.

At one time sighted friends also sad said they had trouble finding the 
accept button.  I suggested changing in game Center notifications under 
settings the option from banners to alertss. This seemed to help as the request 
would remain available to select but with Banners it would disappear. 

It took me a long time to figure out the series of steps needed to 
select a friend, select the game, send a invitation, start the game and then 
finally play! 

sometimes you need to wait a chunk of time for a connection to happen.  
sometimes for no reason a game quits telling you your partner left even though 
they did not.

If the tip on alerts doesn't do it perhaps you would like to contact me off 
list and we could set up a Skype contact and we could work through the steps 
together. 

The game is not perfect and has Somme  accessibility issues and some scoring 
flaws, but over all it is good fun.

eRic Caron  
On Apr 28, 2012, at 2:08 PM, Scott Rumery wrote:

> Hi Eric, you said that you are able to use Game Center to play Roll It with 
> your friends.  How do you do this?  I have several blind friends that I have 
> tried to play with, but we can never seem to find the accept invitation 
> within Game Center.  Can you help?
> 
> Scott
> On Apr 28, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
> 
>> Hello Listers,
>> 
>>  I found Game Center a challenge in itself.  I am now able to use Game 
>> Center to play roll it with friends.  I'm wondering if others have found 
>> games that they can play agains sighted or blind friends over game Center.  
>> I'm not understanding the Game Center well enough to do a tutorial podcast 
>> so I'm hoping someone else will. 
>> 
>> So any Game Center Games like Roll it that work well with Voiceover?
>> 
>> 
>> eric Caron 
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Re: Notes and cloud

[Eric Caron]

Hi John André,

I could have looked for a long time and never found that button!  Thank 
you very much!  It now works just as I hoped.  Now Notes is a convenient way 
for me to move text to my iPhone.  Also, even though my note is initially 
showing up in my in box I can easily move it to the iCloud Notes folder and it 
is then saved for future use but not cluttering up that all important in box 
space.

Thanks again for helping to get this useful tool working for me.

Eric Caron 

 
On Apr 29, 2012, at 7:39 PM, John André Netland wrote:

> Eric,
> 
> In the Mail preferences on your Mac, under Composing, there is a pop-up to 
> select where your Notes should be saved. Also, when you have created your 
> Note, press command-S to update and save it. This way, you will obtain the 
> flexibility you want in both directions.
> 
> HOpe this helps.
> 
> Thanks,
> John André
> 
> 
> ***
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> 
> On 28. apr. 2012, at 18:25, Eric Caron wrote:
> 
>> Hi listers,
>> 
>>  I've been experimenting more with iCloud in general and having some 
>> success.  Recently I tried to use the Apple Notes app to quickly sink info 
>> to and from my iPhone and my computer.  I've had almost complete success.  
>> I'm hoping someone can help with the last step.
>> I set up my phone to sink with iCloud and made sure that my computer was 
>> also set up with notes and mail set to sink in iCloud.  
>> 
>> Now when I make a note on my phone it shows up immediately in my in box in 
>> mail.  I would like the opposite to also happen but am having trouble.
>> 
>> 
>> I press command Control N, when in mail and make a new note.  It doesn't 
>> sink over iCloud.  When I sink my phone with iTunes it does sink and the 
>> note shows up on my phone.
>> 
>> I would like to use this as a way of pasting text into a note on my  
>> computer, then having it show up on my iPhone in Notes.  I could then copy 
>> and paste it into List recorder or other iPhone app.
>> 
>> On the other direction it is sometimes nice to make a note and then find it 
>> waiting for me in my mailbox.
>> 
>> So, I'm able to sink using iCloud from my iPhone to my Mac but not the other 
>> way around.  yet, If I sink using iTunes it works.
>> 
>> I am not using iCloud backup but didn't think this was the problem as iCloud 
>> is working one direction from the phone to computer.  I just need the other 
>> direction to work.
>> 
>> Perhaps when I create a new note it is not considered to be from iCloud, as 
>> there is also a notes folder under on My Mac.  How could I be sure the note 
>> is under iCloud?
>> 
>> Assistance is greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> eRic Caron  
>> 
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Re: Notes and cloud

[Eric Caron]

Hi John André,

I could have looked for a long time and never found that button!  Thank 
you very much!  It now works just as I hoped.  Now Notes is a convenient way 
for me to move text to my iPhone.  Also, even though my note is initially 
showing up in my in box I can easily move it to the iCloud Notes folder and it 
is then saved for future use but not cluttering up that all important in box 
space.

Thanks again for helping to get this useful tool working for me.

Eric Caron 

On Apr 29, 2012, at 7:39 PM, John André Netland wrote:

> Eric,
> 
> In the Mail preferences on your Mac, under Composing, there is a pop-up to 
> select where your Notes should be saved. Also, when you have created your 
> Note, press command-S to update and save it. This way, you will obtain the 
> flexibility you want in both directions.
> 
> HOpe this helps.
> 
> Thanks,
> John André
> 
> 
> ***
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> Visit online at www.a-pro-studio.no
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> 
> On 28. apr. 2012, at 18:25, Eric Caron wrote:
> 
>> Hi listers,
>> 
>>  I've been experimenting more with iCloud in general and having some 
>> success.  Recently I tried to use the Apple Notes app to quickly sink info 
>> to and from my iPhone and my computer.  I've had almost complete success.  
>> I'm hoping someone can help with the last step.
>> I set up my phone to sink with iCloud and made sure that my computer was 
>> also set up with notes and mail set to sink in iCloud.  
>> 
>> Now when I make a note on my phone it shows up immediately in my in box in 
>> mail.  I would like the opposite to also happen but am having trouble.
>> 
>> 
>> I press command Control N, when in mail and make a new note.  It doesn't 
>> sink over iCloud.  When I sink my phone with iTunes it does sink and the 
>> note shows up on my phone.
>> 
>> I would like to use this as a way of pasting text into a note on my  
>> computer, then having it show up on my iPhone in Notes.  I could then copy 
>> and paste it into List recorder or other iPhone app.
>> 
>> On the other direction it is sometimes nice to make a note and then find it 
>> waiting for me in my mailbox.
>> 
>> So, I'm able to sink using iCloud from my iPhone to my Mac but not the other 
>> way around.  yet, If I sink using iTunes it works.
>> 
>> I am not using iCloud backup but didn't think this was the problem as iCloud 
>> is working one direction from the phone to computer.  I just need the other 
>> direction to work.
>> 
>> Perhaps when I create a new note it is not considered to be from iCloud, as 
>> there is also a notes folder under on My Mac.  How could I be sure the note 
>> is under iCloud?
>> 
>> Assistance is greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> eRic Caron  
>> 
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Re: Notes and cloud

[Eric Caron]

John or others,

I've looked and must be missing a setting.  I'd like to be able to keep 
my notes in the note folder but they keep popping up in my in box even after I 
move them.  They seem to go there when I reed them in the Notes appp. 

Does anyone remember how to tell mail to keep the notes in the Notes 
folder?  I used to have this setting back in Snow Leopard.  I'm using the new 
Mail view so that could be part of my problem finding the setting.

Eric Caron 

On Apr 29, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Eric Caron wrote:

> Hi John André,
> 
>   I could have looked for a long time and never found that button!  Thank 
> you very much!  It now works just as I hoped.  Now Notes is a convenient way 
> for me to move text to my iPhone.  Also, even though my note is initially 
> showing up in my in box I can easily move it to the iCloud Notes folder and 
> it is then saved for future use but not cluttering up that all important in 
> box space.
> 
> Thanks again for helping to get this useful tool working for me.
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
> On Apr 29, 2012, at 7:39 PM, John André Netland wrote:
> 
>> Eric,
>> 
>> In the Mail preferences on your Mac, under Composing, there is a pop-up to 
>> select where your Notes should be saved. Also, when you have created your 
>> Note, press command-S to update and save it. This way, you will obtain the 
>> flexibility you want in both directions.
>> 
>> HOpe this helps.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> John André
>> 
>> 
>> ***
>> John André Netland - Voice/SMS/MMS (+47) 971 68 794
>> Visit online at www.a-pro-studio.no
>> ***
>> 
>> On 28. apr. 2012, at 18:25, Eric Caron wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi listers,
>>> 
>>> I've been experimenting more with iCloud in general and having some 
>>> success.  Recently I tried to use the Apple Notes app to quickly sink info 
>>> to and from my iPhone and my computer.  I've had almost complete success.  
>>> I'm hoping someone can help with the last step.
>>> I set up my phone to sink with iCloud and made sure that my computer was 
>>> also set up with notes and mail set to sink in iCloud.  
>>> 
>>> Now when I make a note on my phone it shows up immediately in my in box in 
>>> mail.  I would like the opposite to also happen but am having trouble.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I press command Control N, when in mail and make a new note.  It doesn't 
>>> sink over iCloud.  When I sink my phone with iTunes it does sink and the 
>>> note shows up on my phone.
>>> 
>>> I would like to use this as a way of pasting text into a note on my  
>>> computer, then having it show up on my iPhone in Notes.  I could then copy 
>>> and paste it into List recorder or other iPhone app.
>>> 
>>> On the other direction it is sometimes nice to make a note and then find it 
>>> waiting for me in my mailbox.
>>> 
>>> So, I'm able to sink using iCloud from my iPhone to my Mac but not the 
>>> other way around.  yet, If I sink using iTunes it works.
>>> 
>>> I am not using iCloud backup but didn't think this was the problem as 
>>> iCloud is working one direction from the phone to computer.  I just need 
>>> the other direction to work.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps when I create a new note it is not considered to be from iCloud, as 
>>> there is also a notes folder under on My Mac.  How could I be sure the note 
>>> is under iCloud?
>>> 
>>> Assistance is greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> eRic Caron  
>>> 
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Re: Notes and cloud

[Eric Caron]

Hello John André and listers,

Your directions,John André,  were great.  I can now use notes to 
communicate between my computer and my iPhone.  I looked around mail for the 
setting for quite some time.  Without this tip I would not have found out how 
to control the in box setting for my Nottes.  I am finding this very helpful.  
I am considering doing a small podcast to show how this app can come in handy.  
That is now that   John André and this list have provided me the needed  tips I 
needed to get everything set up!

Sometimes things seem buried in funny places in the preferences.  In the future 
I will explore every tab I can find.  Still I don't think I would have looked 
under accounts to find how to control my notes, especially when I had found a 
related setting under composing.  It is strange that they are in different 
locations.


gratefully,

Eric Caron 

On May 1, 2012, at 5:09 PM, John André Netland wrote:

> John André

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Re: Blind vendors

[Eric Caron]

Hi VaShaun Jones

I'm a blind professional working in a Public School system.  I also have 
background working in career planning for the visually impaired.  Recently, I 
have been dramatically increasing my use of the iPhone at work.  Below are apps 
I would recommend for professional and personal use.

These are my most used apps that could be purchased and are either designed for 
the blind or especially helpful:

List Recorder
Vis Wiz, Free 
Recognizer 
Money Reader
Digit-Eyes
Prizmo 

Many standard apps like Calendar, Reminders, Safari, and so on are very helpful.

There are so many more depending on the needs to be filled and the person's 
vision There are the apps for Learning Ally, Bookshare, and ZoomReader

I look forward to seeing what apps others recommend.
Eric Caron 
On May 1, 2012, at 7:16 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:

> VaShaun Jones

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Re: Digit-Eyes and Canon MP620 printer

[Eric Caron]

Hello everyone,

So I received my 6570 labels.  I did a test print with my Canon MP620 
printer.  Results are ok but not amazing.  The code prints completely on the 
label so it is usable.  It still is not centered so I still have some work to 
do to figure out my printer.  
I need to practice a bit more with these labels before I can report 
back.

Thank you Nancy for the tip about the Avery numbering system.  I was given some 
labels that start with the number 5 so now I know those should be used on a 
laser printer.  Meanwhile my 6570 labels can be used on either Ink or laser.

It is hard to improve my printer set up skills as I cannot  see the results and 
my sighted helpers have limited patience when it comes to printer issues.

Still it is working well over all.

eric Caron 



On May 1, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Nancy M wrote:

> Those are my very favorite labels and I use them in my HP Inkjet printer 
> where they work great!
> 
> N
> 
> 
> 
> On Sunday, April 29, 2012 10:37:14 PM UTC-5, Rick Alfaro wrote:
> Eric 
> 
> Did you order them from Amazon?  I ask because here is what it says on 
> Amazon's site.  I also hope to be able to use them on my inkjet printer as 
> well as my laser. 
> 
> Avery Permanent ID Labels for Laser and Inkjet Printers, 1.25 x 1.75 Inch, 
> White, 
> 480 Labels (06570) 
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> &index=0 
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> Avery Permanent ID Labels for Laser and Inkjet Printers, 1.25 x 1.75 Inch, 
> White, 
> 480 Labels (06570) 
> by 
> Avery 
> ( 
> 6 customer reviews 
> ) | 
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> Price: 
> $10.99 & eligible for free shipping with Amazon Prime 
> In Stock. 
> Ships from and sold by Amazon.com. Gift-wrap available. 
> Want it delivered Tuesday, May 1? Order it in the next 
> 19 hours and 58 minutes 
> , and choose One-Day Shipping at checkout. 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Eric Caron 
> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 6:37 PM 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Digit-Eyes and Canon MP620 printer 
> 
> 
> Hi Rick, 
> Yes, AVery 6570 are the labels I ordered.  On the site it didn't say laser 
> or ink jet, but on the order receipt it says laser.  Hopefully the package 
> will clearly state if it can be used in both styles of printer.  I was 
> beginning to wonder if maybe the number like 6570 only applied to size and 
> we had to specify laser or Ink jet. 
> 
> Thanksf for your note.  I'll remain optimistic. 
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 29, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote: 
> 
> > Eric, 
> > 
> > Not sure if you ordered the same labels I did.  I ordered them from 
> > amazon since I have Amazon Prime.  They are the Avery 6570 labels and 
> > it states that they are for both laser and inkjet printers.  Just FYI. 
> > 
> > Rick 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> > Behalf Of Eric Caron 
> > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 12:10 PM 
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> > Subject: Re: Digit-Eyes and Canon MP620 printer 
> > 
> > Hello list, 
> > 
> > For anyone following this small thread, I am still unsuccessful 
> > printing Digit-Eyes labels using my Canon MP620 printer.  I tried 
> > Christina's suggestion of printing from preview and the results were 
> > the same.  Using the labels that are 30 per page they print about 1 
> > quarter of a Inch too high.  Using my work HP laser printer with 
> > different Avery labels, but also 30 per page, they print fine. 
> > 
> > I ordered more labels that are a better shape for Digit-Eyes and 
> > though I meant to get labels I could use on both Ink Jet and Laser 
> > printers, the receipt shows they are Laser labels.  Thus, I'm going to 
> > use my work printer. 
> > 
> > One big tip for new users like me.  Once you get the labels printed 
> > they are much easier to use if the label is almost completely clear of 
> > extra white space.  My secretary used a paper cutter to cut my labels 
> > into strips of square Digit-Eyes labels, rather then the long 
> > rectangular shape.  This made all the difference for me concerning 
> > recognition time with Digit-Eyes.  I went from beginners frustration 
> > to efficient fast user just with that change.  The l

Re: Recording lectures on iPhone

[Eric Caron]

Hello Hendrik,

There are several apps that will record well for you.  However, if you 
want one that was designed for voice Over users and has additional features for 
organization and easy exchange of the recordings with your computer than I 
would recommend List Recorder.  You will find several tutorials I have done on 
this app at applevis.com or at the List Recorder web site at sixthmode.com.  
This app has a lite version and then a in app purchase for the full version.  
You need the full version to record lectures.  The lite version is to try it 
out and has a 10 second recording limit. 

This is the app I use the most on my iPhone.  It will do much more then 
recording your lectures.

You will also find tutorials on how to use all the features of List Recorder 
both on the app and at the above web site.

Best.

Eric Caron 

On May 4, 2012, at 3:37 AM, Hendrik Steyn wrote:

> Good Morning everybody
>  
> I am looking for an ap that I can use to record my lectures. I’ve tried 
> Quickvoice, but VO dies as soon as I start recording. Even when I use 
> headphones this still happens. Is there an app that doesn’t kill VO when 
> recording? I am not sure, but I think the voice memmos app allows only for 
> fifteen minutes or so and that’s too short. Any help would really be 
> appreciated.
>  
> Kindly
> Hendrik
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Re: Notes and cloud

[Eric Caron]

Dear John André, and other listers,

I combined John André's tips and my use of the Notes app into a 15 
minute podcast.  It lives at applevis.com.  if your interested the link is 
below.

The podcast is a walk through of the native Notes app, shows how to set up 
preferences in mail to use iCloud, and demonstrates moving text from the mac to 
the iPhone and moving it to another app. 
I also use selecting of text and pasting so if you have not tried that 
yet on the iPhone this might also be a helpful part of the podcast.
 

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On May 1, 2012, at 5:09 PM, John André Netland wrote:

> Eric,
> 
> First, go to the Mail preferences, under the Compose settings, and set new 
> Notes to be created in iCloud. Then, go to the Account settings in the Mail 
> preferences, and select your iCloud account. If you then switch to the 
> Mailbox Behavior settings, you'll find a checkbox. This will make your Notes 
> show up in the inbox if selected. You'll find a similar checkbox for your 
> other accounts, in case you have created Notes in other accounts. Remember, 
> only the Notes you create and store in your iCloud account, will sync the way 
> you want. 
> 
> Hope this helps,
> John André
>  
> 
> ***
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> Visit online at www.a-pro-studio.no
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> 
> On 1. mai 2012, at 02:26, Eric Caron wrote:
> 
>> John or others,
>> 
>>  I've looked and must be missing a setting.  I'd like to be able to keep 
>> my notes in the note folder but they keep popping up in my in box even after 
>> I move them.  They seem to go there when I reed them in the Notes appp. 
>> 
>>  Does anyone remember how to tell mail to keep the notes in the Notes 
>> folder?  I used to have this setting back in Snow Leopard.  I'm using the 
>> new Mail view so that could be part of my problem finding the setting.
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
>> On Apr 29, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi John André,
>>> 
>>> I could have looked for a long time and never found that button!  Thank 
>>> you very much!  It now works just as I hoped.  Now Notes is a convenient 
>>> way for me to move text to my iPhone.  Also, even though my note is 
>>> initially showing up in my in box I can easily move it to the iCloud Notes 
>>> folder and it is then saved for future use but not cluttering up that all 
>>> important in box space.
>>> 
>>> Thanks again for helping to get this useful tool working for me.
>>> 
>>> Eric Caron 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 29, 2012, at 7:39 PM, John André Netland wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Eric,
>>>> 
>>>> In the Mail preferences on your Mac, under Composing, there is a pop-up to 
>>>> select where your Notes should be saved. Also, when you have created your 
>>>> Note, press command-S to update and save it. This way, you will obtain the 
>>>> flexibility you want in both directions.
>>>> 
>>>> HOpe this helps.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> John André
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ***
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>>>> Visit online at www.a-pro-studio.no
>>>> ***
>>>> 
>>>> On 28. apr. 2012, at 18:25, Eric Caron wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi listers,
>>>>> 
>>>>>   I've been experimenting more with iCloud in general and having some 
>>>>> success.  Recently I tried to use the Apple Notes app to quickly sink 
>>>>> info to and from my iPhone and my computer.  I've had almost complete 
>>>>> success.  I'm hoping someone can help with the last step.
>>>>> I set up my phone to sink with iCloud and made sure that my computer was 
>>>>> also set up with notes and mail set to sink in iCloud.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now when I make a note on my phone it shows up immediately in my in box 
>>>>> in mail.  I would like the opposite to also happen but am having trouble.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I press command Control N, when in mail and make a new note.  It doesn't 
>>>>> sink over iCloud.  When I sink my phone with iTunes it does sink and the 
>>>>> note shows up on my phone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would like to use this as a way of pasting text into a note on my  

Digit-Eyes update in the App Store

[Eric Caron]

Hi listers,

I'm a recent new user of Digit-Eyes.  I noticed last night that there 
was a update in the app Store.  I tried it out this morning and was very 
pleased with the results.  I can now leave the app and return to it as often as 
needed and each time the scan button is working correctly and ready to go.  In 
the earlier release I had to often quit the app in the App Switcher to get the 
scan button to work again.
This app is rapidly becoming one of my most used appps.  I'm very 
impressed with the quick response to technical and individual needs.

This is the app that among other things lets you scan bar codes to hear what a 
product is, and also print your own labels to mark items with recorded or text 
information.

I noticed there is a new podcast about Digit-Eyes at Applevis.com.


I would recommend updating this App.

eRic Caron 

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Re: Digit-Eyes update in the App Store

[Eric Caron]

Hi VaShaun,

Being able to print the labels as we need them and the size we want for 
the cost of the label is a big advantage.  However, it is true that doing this 
the first time alone as a blind user is difficult.  The nice thing is once it 
is set up and you find the labels you like, you are good to go.

Some things I learned as a new user that have been helpful are:

Use Avery labels, others might work but it is another variable I'd rather not 
introduce.

Use labels that start with a 6 like 6570.  This way if you are having trouble 
with your printer you can use another one say a friend or at work.  By starting 
with the number 6 it will not matter if you use a Laser or Ink jet.

As a new user it was easier to start with a label that is as close to square as 
possible.  this es easier to line up the camera.  The 6570 are great for this.

If you do use the long narrow labels consider having a sited person use a paper 
cutter and cut them into strips with the extra white part cut  
 away.  Not only was this easier for me to scan but they fit nicely on smaller 
objects such as tops of medicine bottles.  

This app is working very nicely right now, and from comments from Nancy on this 
list, it is clear it will not only be well supported but continue to develop.
I do enjoy reading how others are using this app and I learn from both your 
successes and difficulties.

eRic Caron 


On May 5, 2012, at 10:37  M, VaShaun Jones wrote:

> Yup, I love the option for the clothes but picking out proper labels from 
> Avery and printing them is my new concern. I guess we do need some eyes 
> around for something.
> On May 5, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Nancy M  wrote:
> 
>> Hi VaShaun and Eric, 
>> 
>> I'm so happy you noticed the new update.  It was released by Apple about 7 
>> pm last evening.   We are sorry there was the problem with the ticking noise 
>> and happy that the fix is satisfactory.
>> 
>> VaShaun, you may also want to use the Digit-Eyes website for making your 
>> codes.Just create and account and log in.   You'll find that the 
>> label-making software is carefully designed to be accessible with Jaws, 
>> WindowEyes and (of course!) VoiceOver if you have a mac.  the direct link is 
>> here:
>> http://www.digit-eyes.com/cgi-bin/digiteyes.fcgi?action=requestTextLabelForm
>> 
>> To get to it, just go to www.digit-eyes.com, log in and select the option 
>> 'Make Text Labels'.   There is also an option for making the recordable 
>> audio labels there.
>> 
>> And label creation is all fre.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Saturday, May 5, 2012 2:23:29 PM UTC-5, VaShaun Jones wrote:
>> I know I'm even ordering the washable labels to label my clothes and I even 
>> created my own QR codes from qrstuff.com and it worked beautifully. 
>> On May 5, 2012, at 12:44 PM, Eric Caron  wrote: 
>> 
>> > Hi listers, 
>> > 
>> > I'm a recent new user of Digit-Eyes.  I noticed last night that 
>> > there was a update in the app Store.  I tried it out this morning and was 
>> > very pleased with the results.  I can now leave the app and return to it 
>> > as often as needed and each time the scan button is working correctly and 
>> > ready to go.  In the earlier release I had to often quit the app in the 
>> > App Switcher to get the scan button to work again. 
>> > This app is rapidly becoming one of my most used appps.  I'm very 
>> > impressed with the quick response to technical and individual needs. 
>> > 
>> > This is the app that among other things lets you scan bar codes to hear 
>> > what a product is, and also print your own labels to mark items with 
>> > recorded or text information. 
>> > 
>> > I noticed there is a new podcast about Digit-Eyes at Applevis.com. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > I would recommend updating this App. 
>> > 
>> > eRic Caron 
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Share home made Ring Tones anyone?

[Eric Caron]

Hi fellow listers,

Some time ago I started to create my own ring tones.  Sometimes using 
audio from old LP recordings or parts of CDs.  Other times I used sounds from 
objects around my home usually using a Olympus recorder.  Most of these are 
nothing special.  A few came out very nice.  I put together a folder and zipped 
it up and placed it in dropbox.  I'll put the link below in case anyone wants 
to try them out.

If you have created ring tones why not share them? 

I did do a podcast a long time ago that showed how to create reign tones with 
Amadeus Pro.  It is still at blindcooltech.com.  Of course others can share how 
to make tones in other ways including directly on iTunes.

I'm pretty sure you can simply add these to iTunes with the add to iTunes 
command.  that is "command o"  I'm not positive as I always add them to iTunes 
from Amadeus Pro as I make them.

Again these are home made but I thought I'd share. Please share your ring tone 
ideas and examples.  Remember not to share anything copyrighted!

ERic Caron 
  
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5620907/Tones.zip

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Re: Digit-Eyes update in the App Store

[Eric Caron]

Hi Nancy and others,

One thing I noticed about the Torch is that in some apps such as Recognizer the 
torch coming on and off can happen during recording.  I read some posts here 
about listers frustrated that the app would interrupt recording.

Perhaps it would be better to have a button that is pressed that lets you know 
if the torch is on.  Or, just the new setting that allows you to do it manually 
could also indicate the torch status.  this way everyone wins.  You can see the 
torch status, you can turn it off and on, and it is not interrupting your 
recordings.

Once I realized Digit-Eyes was using the torch automatically I was not 
that concerned.  If I wanted the torch to come on I would just cover the camera 
for a moment.  For me that would turn on the Torch automatically.  It stayed on 
if the light conditions required it. 

It is great to see such a solid app get even better.
Eric Caron 


On May 6, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Nancy M wrote:

> Good idea!   We are working on our next release where one of the features is 
> enhanced audio and haptic feedback and I'll pass that request on to the folks 
> who are doing the design and implementation.
> 
> On Sunday, May 6, 2012 1:03:56 PM UTC-5, Rick Alfaro wrote:
> I think one thing that would be helpful is to be notified by the app if the 
> flash has been turned on or off, even if it is automatic. 
> 
>  
> Rick
> 
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Scott Howell
> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 5:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Digit-Eyes update in the App Store
> 
>  
> Hi Nancy,
> 
>  
> I'm not sure how interesting this is to the list; however, I wil post this 
> much for the record. I just launched Digit-Eyes in a totally dark room and 
> the flash did activate. I did not realize this would occur. I suspect the 
> situation I was dealing with may have just been at the level in which the 
> flash is not activated. So, I will try a few tests to see at what level of 
> lighting does the flash activate.
> 
> There may even be an instance where I created a shadow, so I'm not sure. I 
> will say again that Digit-Eyes is performing very nicely indeed. I'm sure the 
> improved camera of the 4 and 4S as well as having the flash does help.
> 
>  
> On May 5, 2012, at 9:07 PM, Nancy M wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Scott, that is an interesting point.
> 
> We have some automatic detection logic where the software determines when it 
> thinks there is a problem and turns the flash on (provided, of course, that 
> it is on a device with a flash), but we don't give an option for the user of 
> the software to make that determination and to override the logic in the 
> program.
> 
> I guess this brings up a couple of issues:
> a)   have you had scans fail for insufficient light on a device where there 
> is a flash?
> b)  can you tell us a bit more about the experience and how the software 
> could have handled it better?
> 
> I'm not positive this is a topic of interest to everyone on the board; if you 
> think it is not, I'm the person reading support this weekend, so you can send 
> commentary to supp...@digit-eyes.com or me personally (nmiracle at the same 
> address)
> 
> I'd love to hear more about this!
> 
> 
> 
> On Saturday, May 5, 2012 3:21:29 PM UTC-5, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
> I have to say that I am very impressed with DigitEyes now. I just installed 
> the update and I certainly was one who had issues with some of the earlier 
> versions. I can now with confidence recommend this app. In fact I find it 
> nearly as fast as Red Laser and the information returned is great. THe only 
> thing I would add is the ability to toggle the flash which does help when 
> lighting conditions are not optimal. 
> 
> On May 5, 2012, at 3:23 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote: 
> 
> > I know I'm even ordering the washable labels to label my clothes and I even 
> > created my own QR codes from qrstuff.com and it worked beautifully. 
> > On May 5, 2012, at 12:44 PM, Eric Caron  wrote: 
> > 
> >> Hi listers, 
> >> 
> >> I'm a recent new user of Digit-Eyes.  I noticed last night that 
> >> there was a update in the app Store.  I tried it out this morning and was 
> >> very pleased with the results.  I can now leave the app and return to it 
> >> as often as needed and each time the scan button is working correctly and 
> >> ready to go.  In the earlier release I had to often quit the app in the 
> >> App Switcher to get the scan button to work again. 
> >> This app is rapidly becoming one of my most used appps.  I&#

Headphone remote control reminder needed

[Eric Caron]

Hello listers,

For a app I'm helping to beta test I need to understand all the uses of 
the remote that comes on the iPhone headphones.  Here is what I can do with 
them so far.  I'm using the Music app as my practice for now.


I can start and stop play with the middle button.
I can also stop and start play with this button when outside the app.
I can turn the volume up with the upper part of the remote and pressing the 
lower part lowers the volume.

It seems to me I've read somewhere that you can also move back and forth to the 
next song in a list using the remote.  Is this possible?  I know I can shake 
the phone to move to the next song but can the remote go forward and back in 
the play list?  I tried a few things but I could not find the way to do it, if 
it can even be done.

Thanks for any info,  knowing it is not possible is just as helpful as knowing  
if and how it can be done.

thanks.

Eric Caron 

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Re: AirPods and status bar

[Eric Caron]

Hi,

I also recently purchased air pods and I often check the battery life 
of the air pods and the case by opening the case near the iPhone.  The 
information pops up when the case is open near the phone and goes away when you 
close the case.

Eric Caron 




On Nov 26, 2017, at 22:11, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

On the Today screen (the screen you get to when you swipe left to right with 3 
fingers when you are on the first home screen. You can also get to it if you 
place focus on the picker control between the dock and the last row of home 
screen icons, where it says "2 of 4" or however many home screens you have. 
Your main home screen is "2" because the Today screen is "1", flick down with 
one finger and it goes to your Today screen.
There is an "Edit" button at the very bottom where you can control which items 
are displayed and in what order.

Regards,
Sieghard

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regina alvarado
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To: Viphone 
Subject: AirPods and status bar

I bit the bullet and bought AirPods from Apple. I see the AirPods connected 
icon in my status bar. However, they only show as connected. Is there a place 
where I can check the battery status on them? I was caught off guard and one 
pod went dead after 2 hours talk. Thank you for anyone who can shed some light 
on this for me.



Reggie and Lex

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Re: Big Seeing AI update

[Eric Caron]

Hi Donna,

How is that app spelled?  I looked for eyenote, eye note,  and then inote in 
the app store  with no success.

Eric Caron 


On Dec 13, 2017, at 21:39, Donna  wrote:

Hi

I just looked in the Help section & the currency reader is only available on 
devices running IOS 11.x I'll continue to use eyenote. It was updated a couple 
days ago & will run on devices running IOS 11.x

Donna

>  I can't find the currency reader either. I have an iPhone 7. This is weird. 
> I was really looking forward to trying out the currency reader. 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:14 PM Marie N.  <mailto:magpie...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I got it on my 6S.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kay Malmquist
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 5:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Big Seeing AI update
> 
> I have a 6 s.  That thought crossed my mind as well.  It will be interesting
> to see what others find.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
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> 
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> give it to you.
> 
> - Louise Hay
> 
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> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 7:26 PM
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> 
> 
> One other person has came to me saying they don't have the currency
> reader either. I wonder if it's only available on certain phones? I have
> the iPhone 7. What phone do you have? On my phone it's in the list of
> channels.
> 
> 
> On 12/13/2017 7:16 PM, Kay Malmquist wrote:
> > Where is the currency reader?  I found everything but that.
> > Kay Malmquist
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> >
> > Ask for what you want. Believe that you deserve it, and then allow Life to
> > give it to you.
> >
> > - Louise Hay
> >
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> > To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 12:45 PM
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Re: DELETING ALL NOTIFICATIONS!!!

[Eric Caron]

Hi,

Be sure you don’t press on a button such as Delete notifications in 
section.  Simply open the notification area be on a item such as that button 
then flick up until you here delete all notification. 

I’m so grateful this question was answered on this list.  this saves so 
much time.

Eric Caron 


On Jan 15, 2018, at 10:33, Lelia  wrote:

Interesting, I can’t find that, I swipe up and it just lets me clear 
notifications from earlier.  Or from yesterday. But I can’t clear them all at 
once.  
 
Lelia 
 
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This is why I love this list.  I’ve been looking for a solution to this 
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Perform a single finger flick after locating the clear button. One of the 
options will allow you to clear all notifications.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone
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> How do I delete all of my notifications on my iPhone at once?
> 
> Thanks
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Re: a talking timer for ios?

[Eric Caron]

Hi list,

Also when I have the focus on the clock app VO speakes the minute each 
time it changes.

Eric Caron 


On Jan 15, 2018, at 16:18, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
 wrote:

Hi,

Well, if you want an announcement every minute, I put the focus on the time in 
the status bar, and VO speaks every time a new minute comes along. So, if it 
would work for you to figure out when you start your workout at 10:15, and you 
want to go for 35 minutes, if you do this, you know you're done at 10:50, but 
you'll get an announcement every minute.

Keith

-Original Message-
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Subject: a talking timer for ios?

Hi everyone, Apple timer works fine but i would like a timer that tells me 
every minute how many minutes there are left to go (i use the timer for rowing 
excercise).
There used to be an app called talking timer but that does not seem to work 
anymore with ios 11. Has anyome got any recommendations for other apps?
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Re: a talking timer for ios?

[Eric Caron]

Hi Rob and others,

I have my iphone set to never auto lock.  I do that as needed.  But, 
that does mean one of the apps suggested would be a good way to go.  
I enjoy learning about these apps and tols people find work as I never 
know when a need might arise.

Eric Caron 

On Jan 15, 2018, at 17:02, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  wrote:

I find the phone goes to sleep quite soon even doing this, so I never get to 
follow the time at all.

- Original Message - 
From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 9:18 PM
Subject: RE: a talking timer for ios?


Hi,

Well, if you want an announcement every minute, I put the focus on the time in 
the status bar, and VO speaks every time a new minute 
comes along. So, if it would work for you to figure out when you start your 
workout at 10:15, and you want to go for 35 minutes, if 
you do this, you know you're done at 10:50, but you'll get an announcement 
every minute.

Keith

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Anouk Radix
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: a talking timer for ios?

Hi everyone, Apple timer works fine but i would like a timer that tells me 
every minute how many minutes there are left to go (i use 
the timer for rowing excercise).
There used to be an app called talking timer but that does not seem to work 
anymore with ios 11. Has anyome got any recommendations 
for other apps?
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Re: a talking timer for ios?

[Eric Caron]

Hi Rob and others,

I have my iphone set to never auto lock.  I do that as needed.  But, 
that does mean one of the apps suggested would be a good way to go.  
I enjoy learning about these apps and tols people find work as I never 
know when a need might arise.

Eric Caron 

On Jan 15, 2018, at 17:02, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  wrote:

I find the phone goes to sleep quite soon even doing this, so I never get to 
follow the time at all.

- Original Message - 
From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 9:18 PM
Subject: RE: a talking timer for ios?


Hi,

Well, if you want an announcement every minute, I put the focus on the time in 
the status bar, and VO speaks every time a new minute 
comes along. So, if it would work for you to figure out when you start your 
workout at 10:15, and you want to go for 35 minutes, if 
you do this, you know you're done at 10:50, but you'll get an announcement 
every minute.

Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anouk Radix
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: a talking timer for ios?

Hi everyone, Apple timer works fine but i would like a timer that tells me 
every minute how many minutes there are left to go (i use 
the timer for rowing excercise).
There used to be an app called talking timer but that does not seem to work 
anymore with ios 11. Has anyome got any recommendations 
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Re: be my eyes

[Eric Caron]

Hi folks,

I’m actually very much looking forward to this app.  I really liked viz 
wiz when it came out because you could ask a question.  i never used tap tap 
see because without the question i rarely got the info I needed.  this model 
sounds great.  there will be challenges for them but  hope to help.  I plan to 
share the info so hopefully others will sign up as sighted helpers.  

It will be interesting to see how this develops. I’m very much looking forward 
to being able to ask a question and in this model ask a follow up question.  no 
more taking a picture of a tire and learning it is a tire.  Now I can actually 
learn the max tire pressure listed on the side wall!  

Eric Caron 
looking forward to this app 




> On Jan 14, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> I just read the Frequently Asked Questions on the Be My Eyes web site. It is 
> the result of a proposal at a StartUp weekend. StartUp weekends are a program 
> that provides an  entrepreneur a chance to pitch ideas to a group of people 
> willing to provide startup funding. This one was in Denmark and is launching 
> world wide tomorrow.
> The last question on the page is about cost, here is the answer:
> We are nonprofit, but there are cost related to keeping Be My Eyes up and 
> running. By September 2015 our initial funding comes to an end, and we will 
> have to come up with a sustainable business model. We consider a subscription 
> model and/or donations.
> 
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.
> 
> Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 5S
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 13, 2015, at 10:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
> 
>> Kerri,
>> 
>> You can read this at the URL Julia provided, www.BeMyEyes.org 
>> <http://www.bemyeyes.org/>. Anyhow, here is what it says:
>> 
>> How it works
>> First a blind person requests assistance in the Be My Eyes app. The 
>> challenge that he/she needs help with can be anything from knowing the 
>> expiry date on the milk to getting help crossing the street.
>> The volunteer helper receives a notification for help and a live video 
>> connection is established. From the live video the volunteer can help the 
>> blind answering the question the blind needs answered.
>> 
>> Non-profit - all for love
>> Be My Eyes is a non-profit, put in this world to make the biggest difference 
>> possible for blind people.
>> 
>> It basically would be like asking a family member or friend for help via 
>> Facebook or Skype except that this would mean you have access to somebody 
>> around the clock. Probably a good idea not to ask what that ichi spot is on 
>> your belly after coming out of the shower *smile*. I guess anything that is 
>> very personal is better left to somebody who really is a family nmember or 
>> close friend, but nonetheless there are many situations where a service like 
>> this could be vastly more useful than the limited information you can get 
>> from Tap Tap See. This is even better than sending a picture with a question 
>> like one was able to do in that other app which I forgot what it was called 
>> just now, but it's been defunct for some time. It will be interesting to see 
>> how quickly and reliably one can get assistance with this one and if they 
>> are able to continue to offer the service at no charge.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On 
>> Behalf Of Kerri G
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:51 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: be my eyes
>> 
>> Hi, Julia. How does this differ from tp tap see etc etc? Just curious.
>>> On Jan 13, 2015, at 8:52 PM, Julia >> <mailto:julia.ku...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone.
>>>   I'm very excited to announce that an app called be my eyes, which 
>>> connects blind people who need assistance with sighted volunteers through 
>>> their iPhone's back facing camera, is due for release on the 15th of 
>>> January. You can find out more about it by visiting the website
>>> www.bemyeyes.org <http://www.bemyeyes.org/>
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Pear note questions

[Eric Caron]

Hi folks,

I have Pear Note on my phone and iPad.  It seems Voice Over friendly 
but I’m finding it challenging to figure out how to take notes while recording 
and later have it play back the audio when I’m in the text.

Are there any other folks using Pear note and meeting success?

tips appreciated. 

this would be a useful app in my work.


If someone is really feeling generous I’d love a lesson over Skype or i can 
call in the Us.   

Eric Caron 


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Re: List Recorder Full

[Eric Caron]

Hi Richard and others,

I would also like to see List recorder continue to evolve.  I’d like to 
see it use iCloud and have the option to sink to multiple devices.

List recorder is still working fine for me and  is one of my most often used 
apps.. but, if people sent feature requests and any fixes they have noticed to 
the developer we might see some nice improvements.  I think Richard is right, 
getting that feedback out there through emails is important.

Eric Caron 


> On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> List Recorder Full has not been updated since November 2013.
> Are users writing to the developer requesting improvements, like sharing 
> directly with DropBox?
> Their Email is:
> l...@sixthmode.com <mailto:l...@sixthmode.com>
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Re: [Bulk] Be my eyes?

[Eric Caron]

Hi Andrew and others,

Another thing to keep in mind is that the app does not activate the 
flash so there needs to be lots of light for the person to see with the camera. 
 I had a person tell me they could not see even though a over head light was 
on.  When I turned on another brighter light they could see and answer my 
questions.

One other tip.  during a call the person said several times, wait a moment the 
image is going to be clearer in a moment.  and sure enough if we waited they 
could then see clearer and read the information I needed.

 the app has worked great for me though i am using a iPhone 6.

Eric Caron 

> On Feb 12, 2015, at 3:22 PM, Lizand Sammie  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, I don’t know if this makes a difference, but the Be my Eyes App is 
> optimized for the iPhone 5 on up.  I hope this helps.  
>  
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> Grace Harbor Church Prayer chain coordinator 
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Re: Microsoft office on iPad, iPhone or iPod Touch

[Eric Caron]

Hi Richard,

If you find out who to contact about accessibility with the Office app 
please share.  I'd like to add my voice as that would be a very useful 
productivity app for me and I'm sure many of us.
Eric Caron 

On Apr 5, 2014, at 1:07 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

> Also,
> I just read the end of the information in the app description, and it says:
> "* Sign in with a free Microsoft account to create, edit and save documents 
> for home."
> So, a free Microsoft account is all that is needed for home use.  If you have 
> a business, then Office 365 subscription is required.
> Here is what it says about that:
>  
> "use. A qualifying Office 365 subscription is required to create, edit and 
> save documents
> for business use. Qualifying plans include:
> *Office 365 Small Business Premium
> *Office 365 Midsize Business
> *Office 365 Enterprise E3 and E4 (Enterprise and Government)
> *Office 365 Education A3 and A4
> *Office 365 ProPlus"
>  
> I think I will call Microsoft Accessibility tomorrow and ask them who to 
> contact about accessibility for their app.
>  
> If you read the entire description of the editing features in the app, this 
> looks great if they will only include voiceOver support.
>  
> Richard
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Re: Audio Recording Apps

[Eric Caron]

Hi Ric and others,

Sorry I am so late returning to this thread.  List Recorder is 
definitely still being developed and supported.  for the app to continue to 
improve I think we simply need to let the developer know what the most 
important features we want are.  I know that she was looking into both Dropbox 
and iCloud as possible areas of improvement or additions.

She can be contacted through the app for support or ideas.  Her 
commitment to the app and the population it is designed for is rock solid. The 
app continues to improve due to user input and support.
I support the app as a volunteer because I rely on it for my work and 
personal productivity. It is available in many languages thanks to volunteer 
translators.  It is a quality professional recording and note taking app that 
is truly driven by user feedback and a respectful drive to make a  valuable app 
for the visually impaired.
  

I have summarized and shared the feedback from this thread.  Don't hesitate to 
email the developer with feedback and feature requests.  The fact that people 
are relying on this app matters to this developer and the team of volunteers.

Eric Caron 
  


On Mar 29, 2014, at 1:16 AM, Rick Alfaro  wrote:

> Hi Eric.
> 
> Any chance the developer of List Recorder will continue development? I would 
> purchase it for sure if it had full DropBox support. As it stands now and 
> please correct me if I'm wrong, you have to use save as to get each note onto 
> Dropbox. I know you worked closely with the dev so thought you might be able 
> to convince him/her to pick it up again. It's such a great app and full db 
> support seems to be the only thing missing IMHO.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Rick alfaro
> 
> On 3/27/2014 6:28 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
>> 
>> I'll second Richards recommendation.  List recorder is one of my most useful 
>> apps on my iPhone for making and organizing recordings for both my  work and 
>> personal uses.
>> 
>> It is completely accessible, built with the Voice Over user in mind.
>> 
>> Eric Caron
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 27, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> List Recorder Full is my personal favorite for recording apps.
>>> There are podcasts about it on their web site, www.sixthmode.com  and I
>>> think on applevis.com
>>> It is $7.99 but worth it.
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Bill Gallik
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 5:55 AM
>>> To: E-Mail Group, viPhone
>>> Subject: Audio Recording Apps
>>> 
>>> I just installed the Dictaphone app from the app store only to discover that
>>> 
>>> once I begin a recording I can't get feedback from VoiceOver.  Can anybody
>>> offer a suggestion as to how I might be able to end a recording or is this
>>> an irresolvable issue with Dictaphone?
>>> 
>>> Are there other audio recording apps available that are more VoiceOver
>>> accessible?
>>> 
>>> Holland's Boy, Bill
>>> - "A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin."
>>> - US Editor and Satirist, H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
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Translator app broken in iOS 7.1.1 and a work around

[Eric Caron]

Hi Listers,

If like me you are a language learner you might be using the translator 
app by Green Lake Technology.  There are many Translation apps but this one is 
my favorite.  I was sad to find it no longer working after I updated to iOS 
7.1.1.  I wrote to the developer and got a quick response with both a temporary 
work around and a promise that they were working on a permanent fix.

Here is how the app works and how to work around the problem.

In this app you can select two languages.  There are many to pick from 
and you can change then when you need to.  In my case I am using French and 
English.  There are two buttons labeled voice.  the first one is your Left 
language and your second is the right language.  These are set up in settings.  
Normally I would double tap the button and speak a word or sentence.  The app 
would then speak the same word or sentence back in my selected language.  I 
would then often go to the other button and practice my pronunciation until the 
app could give me back the correct words in English.

Once you speak a phrase you can press a button to repeat it  so that you can 
keep listening until you hear it clearly.  the text will also appear on the 
phone in both languages so you can review it with Voice Over commands.
After the update pressing the "Voice button and then talking would only result 
in the app saying "I don't understand what you said."  The solution is to 
quickly tapp the button a second time just as you finish talking.  Doing this 
will cause the app to work normally.  In the past the app  knew you were done 
talking and gave you a verbal and written translation.

I hope this helps other folks using this app for language learning, travel, or 
other uses. 

Eric Caron 

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Translator App broken in iOS 7.1.1 and a work around

[Eric Caron]

Hi Listers,

If like me you are a language learner you might be using the translator 
app by Green Lake Technology.  There are many Translation apps but this one is 
my favorite.  I was sad to find it no longer working after I updated to iOS 
7.1.1.  I wrote to the developer and got a quick response with both a temporary 
work around and a promise that they were working on a permanent fix.

Here is how the app works and how to work around the problem.

In this app you can select two languages.  There are many to pick from 
and you can change then when you need to.  In my case I am using French and 
English.  There are two buttons labeled voice.  the first one is your Left 
language and your second is the right language.  These are set up in settings.  
Normally I would double tap the button and speak a word or sentence.  The app 
would then speak the same word or sentence back in my selected language.  I 
would then often go to the other button and practice my pronunciation until the 
app could give me back the correct words in English.

Once you speak a phrase you can press a button to repeat it  so that you can 
keep listening until you hear it clearly.  the text will also appear on the 
phone in both languages so you can review it with Voice Over commands.
After the update pressing the "Voice button and then talking would only result 
in the app saying "I don't understand what you said."  The solution is to 
quickly tap the button a second time just as you finish talking.  Doing this 
will cause the app to work normally.  In the past the app  knew you were done 
talking and gave you a verbal and written translation.

I hope this helps other folks using this app for language learning, travel, or 
other uses. 

Eric Caron 

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Re: USB FM transmitter that plugs into a car radio

[Eric Caron]

I need to second Richard's comments.  The FM receiver sounds like a great idea 
but I found it very hard to listen to.  I tried two and returned them both. 

I also have a older vehicle and would like a solution but other then replacing 
the radio or carrying a separate speaker I'm out of ideas.

Eric Caron 
With a 1985 VW Camper with need of sound improvement 


On Apr 29, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

> I had one years ago and the amount of static made it not very useful.
> Do you have a cassette deck in that car?
> If so, you may still be able to find a cassette adapter that has a 3.5 m plug 
> for the earphone jack on your device that plays through the cassette deck.
> I'd be very surprised if anyone is still making the FM transmitter.
> Good luck.
> Richard
> 
> 
> "There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be
> nothing." - Aristotle
> 
> On Apr 29, 2014, at 9:31 AM, "Neal Ewers"  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, I was told that one could purchase an FM transmitter that plugs into 
>> one's car radio cigarette lighter for playing either music from the output 
>> of one's iDevice or from a USB thumb drive. This would be for a radio that 
>> is too old to have the capability of playing from either device. Can anyone 
>> point me in the direction of a place that I might purchase one of these? I 
>> can find places that no longer sell them, but I have not found a place that 
>> currently has them available. This would sure beat finding my speakers to 
>> connect to my iPhone  each time I want to travel.
>>  
>> Thanks much for any information on this.
>>  
>> Neal
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Re: seeking recommendations for accessible in-home mesh network system

[Eric Caron]

Yes,

I get software updates on a regular basis. 

I’ve had the Eero system for about 3 months and love it. 
 But, back to the original poster.  I think you would be better off with a 
separate modem and router.  I suspect that if your existing modem is a router 
and modem in one then it is overdue for replacement   Separate units give you 
more flexibility going forward. 

Another note, I was using a time capsule for my router and though old it was 
doing pretty well.  I have however added a lot of wifi devices and it was 
starting to fail.  The new Eero Mesh system was easy to set up and when working 
is rock solid.  Everything works more responsibly and more reliably and covers 
a much larger space.  The three unit system is the one I purchased.  It is 
working well with a two year old Netgear modem.

Eric Caron 


> On Jan 8, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Agent086b  <mailto:agent0...@internode.on.net>> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> do they update there software on a regular basis?
> Max.
> 
>> On 8 Jan 2021, at 11:12 pm, Brian Moore > <mailto:bmo...@screenreview.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.  I too have a Eero mesh system and am pretty happy with it.  The app has 
>> issues when you start playing with advanced settings and want to do things 
>> like look at your traffic reports, set up routing rules and add and remove 
>> devices from profiles.  However, if you are happy with a basic setup, the 
>> actual equipment works very well and my wifi is rock solid and I never have 
>> to touch it. it just keeps working.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Contact me on skype: brian.moore
>> follow me on twitter:
>> http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123 <http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123>
>> On 2021-01-08 6:36 a.m., Vicki W. wrote:
>>> Do you need Bluetooth running all of the time to keep the router working or 
>>> only when you want to access the settings for some reason?
>>>  
>>> Vicki
>>>  
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: 'Stur It Up Productions' via VIPhone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2021 7:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: seeking recommendations for accessible in-home mesh network 
>>> system
>>> 
>>> I will echo this!  I have been using Eero products for almost 2 years now, 
>>> and it is the most accessible system I have ever used.  No scanning of 
>>> codes, just plug and play, give bluetooth permission, and you ready to go.
>>> My groups
>>> User of just apple products, like to ask and answer without other topics?  
>>> That’s how it goes down in the “only Apple talk and support group”. 
>>> Subscribe here
>>> only-apple-tns+subscr...@groups.io 
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>>> Beta tester for apple products?  come help squash the bugs
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>>> don’t join the group.
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 7, 2021, at 5:11 PM, Chris Chaffin >>> <mailto:chaffin102...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I just updated to the Eero 6 mesh system. The app on my phone is totally 
>>>> accessible, and actually I used the app to totally set the system up 
>>>> without sighted assistance.
>>>> Here is a link on Amazon of the system I got.
>>>> 
>>>> Introducing Amazon eero 6... 
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085WSCTS4?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share 
>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085WSCTS4?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share>
>>>> 
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 7, 2021, at 4:50 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
>>>>>  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have discovered the inadequacy of our Wi-Fi network at home. We have 
>>>>> excellent reception in the room where the modem and router are located, 
>>>>> but abysmal reception elsewhere. 
>>>>> 
>>>>&

Re: iphone 8 or XR?

[Eric Caron]

Hi Sieghard

I was so happy to get a face recognition iPhone for exactly those 
reasons.  Though my Vermont weather isn’t as bad, the wood working and hard use 
of my hands in projects caused my finger print reader to rarely work.  I was 
often redoing it so it would work for a little while. 

I have found that I can be subtle when opening my iPhone.  As all it 
has to do is sort of see my face and it clicks on.  I have it on the setting 
that doesn’t require eye contact. 

Now if only my talking tape measure and audible level could be controlled by my 
voice that would be great!

Is there a email list for blind wood workers out there!
 Or, maybe those working on vintage cars? 

One more related thing.  I did struggle a little to learn the gestures that 
replace the home key.  I was trying to do them from a podcast description.  It 
took me some practice and I did have some frustration.  But, now I prefer the 
gestures and miss them when using older iPhones. 


Eric Caron 

> On Mar 17, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Yes, Touch Id may let you unlock the phone while it's in your pocket or in a 
> belt holster, but it's different strokes for different folks. I live in 
> northern Canada and I'd love to have Facetime since then I wouldn't have to 
> take off my gloves every time I'm outside and want to unlock my phone and for 
> us up here that is probably about 5 months out of the year. Then there are 
> the times when I spend more time in my woodworking shop and when Touch Id 
> simply won't work because either my fingers have too many cut and cracks in 
> them or they are full of glue which even when properly removed usually messes 
> up Touch Id for a few days.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Øyvind 
> Lode
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 8:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iphone 8 or XR?
> 
> I recently went from iPhone 7 to XR.
> Getting used to the large screen and no home button took about 2 minutes.
> I really loved Touch ID and I was a bit skeptic.
> However, Face ID is simply brilliant.
> 
> On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 at 14:37, brian albriton  wrote:
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I cannot put my face in the pocket, and unlock the phone!  I 
>> prefer the discretion of the touch ID
>> 
>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 10:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I would say they are hugely different since the XR has no home button and 
>> uses Facetime for authentication and the iPhone 8 still uses the virtual 
>> home button with Touch Id.
>> 
>> This means you have to learn and get used to the gestures which replace 
>> single and double pressing the home button.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
>> A Fogarty
>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 12:33 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: iphone 8 or XR?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> For long life coverage,
>> 
>> Go the XR
>> 
>> They are a very similar phone in most ways although the processor in the XR 
>> is the year later I believe.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> But either way both the 8 and the xr should be around / supported for 
>> another couple of years yet,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> And ask your Verizon sales person why you should get the latest when the 8 
>> or the XR would be very suitable for a person with a visual impairment
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
>> Lant
>> Sent: Monday, 16 March 2020 5:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iphone 8 or XR?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I am currently on an iphone 6S and want to upgrade my phone, as I have 
>> noticed performance issues since moving to IOS 13 and I want to be able to 
>> start using the Way Around tags.   With an $80 trade-in value, I’m debating 
>> between the iphoen which I can get new for $369 from Apple or the iPhone XR 
>> for $519.  Is the iphone XR a good model?  The main reason I was thinking of 
>> spending a bit more is to stave off any planned obsolescence of the 8, but 
>> my budget would prefer the iphone 8.  I can also see that the screen size is 
>> a bit bigger on the XR at 6.1 inches.   I really rely mainly on VoiceOver, 
>> so the screen clarity isn’t that important, nor is the fancy camera, other 
>> than OCR  capability.  Yeah, battery life is nice, but I’ve managed fine 
>> with my 6S and a portable battery pack for the rare occasion I need extra 
>> power on the go.  Yes, I prefer finger print reader to the idea of face ID, 
>> but I’m sure I’d ad

Aira free to college students for the remainder of the semester.

[Eric Caron]

Hi listers,

It is good to be back on list after being away for a few years.  I was 
recently approved and have been enjoying the helpful information.

I’m sure Aira has been discussed in the past.  I wanted to post the below as it 
would be very helpful to current blind college students.  

I just wish they would also offer it to blind teachers as they are also 
learning fast how to run on line teaching. 

Also, if you are planning to join Aira for more than the free 5 minute calls be 
sure to go through a current user so that you both get additional minutes.

Here is the part of the post for college students.

Aira is the popular app that connects a trained sighted person to assist a 
blind person with tasks. 

I am posting part of a email message below that offers free service to 
blind college students for the rest of the semester. 

If you know a student please share as this could be a big help when learning 
new on line distance learning software.  Now if only they offered it to blind 
teachers as well! 

One other note.  If you are thinking about joining Aira go through a current 
blind user and both of you will get free minutes to use.

Eric Caron 

Free Offer - College Students in Need of Aira

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inaccessible so we will be offering free Aira for any college student for the 
remainder of the spring semester ending in May 2020.  If you know of a student 
who could benefit from Aira for their distance learning, please email 
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Re: iphone 8 or XR?

[Eric Caron]

Yes, 

I set up my thumb, a finger on my right hand and one on my left.  But 
results were very poor.  But than again  When I needed a background check for 
my last job I could not get usable fingerprints.  I went back 5 times.  Finally 
they gave me special status as I had no usable fingerprints.  This was from 
many months of hands on construction on my home restoration.

I liked the idea of the finger print but Face ID is working much better for me. 

I’m now having similar finger print problems on my Mac.  I got it working again 
but then once I started some outdoor projects my hands got rough and it sopped 
working.

Here is hoping for Face ID for my Mac!  Or for using my iPhone to confirm 
identity on my Mac!

Best,

Eric Caron 


> On Mar 18, 2020, at 4:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> When I had fingerprint ID, I used my thumb. I figured it was the least likely 
> to get a nick or something causing a problem. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Eric Caron
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 8:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iphone 8 or XR?
> 
> Hi Sieghard
> 
>   I was so happy to get a face recognition iPhone for exactly those 
> reasons.  Though my Vermont weather isn’t as bad, the wood working and hard 
> use of my hands in projects caused my finger print reader to rarely work.  I 
> was often redoing it so it would work for a little while. 
> 
>   I have found that I can be subtle when opening my iPhone.  As all it 
> has to do is sort of see my face and it clicks on.  I have it on the setting 
> that doesn’t require eye contact. 
> 
> Now if only my talking tape measure and audible level could be controlled by 
> my voice that would be great!
> 
> Is there a email list for blind wood workers out there!
> Or, maybe those working on vintage cars? 
> 
> One more related thing.  I did struggle a little to learn the gestures that 
> replace the home key.  I was trying to do them from a podcast description.  
> It took me some practice and I did have some frustration.  But, now I prefer 
> the gestures and miss them when using older iPhones. 
> 
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
>> On Mar 17, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, Touch Id may let you unlock the phone while it's in your pocket or in a 
>> belt holster, but it's different strokes for different folks. I live in 
>> northern Canada and I'd love to have Facetime since then I wouldn't have to 
>> take off my gloves every time I'm outside and want to unlock my phone and 
>> for us up here that is probably about 5 months out of the year. Then there 
>> are the times when I spend more time in my woodworking shop and when Touch 
>> Id simply won't work because either my fingers have too many cut and cracks 
>> in them or they are full of glue which even when properly removed usually 
>> messes up Touch Id for a few days.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Øyvind Lode
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 8:45 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iphone 8 or XR?
>> 
>> I recently went from iPhone 7 to XR.
>> Getting used to the large screen and no home button took about 2 minutes.
>> I really loved Touch ID and I was a bit skeptic.
>> However, Face ID is simply brilliant.
>> 
>> On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 at 14:37, brian albriton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, I cannot put my face in the pocket, and unlock the phone!  I 
>>> prefer the discretion of the touch ID
>>> 
>>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 10:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would say they are hugely different since the XR has no home button and 
>>> uses Facetime for authentication and the iPhone 8 still uses the virtual 
>>> home button with Touch Id.
>>> 
>>> This means you have to learn and get used to the gestures which replace 
>>> single and double pressing the home button.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Simon A Fogarty
>>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 12:33 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: iphone 8 or XR?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For long life coverage,
>>> 
>>> Go the XR
>>> 
>>> They are a very similar phone in most ways although the processor in the XR 
>>> is the year later I believe.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> But either way both the 8 and the xr should 

Mail in Catalina

[Eric Caron]

Hi listers,

One thing I have noticed after updating to Catalina is that moving 
messages to a mail box is slow with mail stating busy and then after a pause 
finally opening up the context menu and eventually the list to move to a 
mailbox. 

Does this improve with time?  It has been about a week.  

Have others noticed this behavior?

I do have a lot of accounts and a lot of mailboxes where I organize 
information.  I expect I have a lot more mail than the average user.

Eric Caron 

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Mail in Catalina

[Eric Caron]

Hi listers,

One thing I have noticed after updating to Catalina is that moving 
messages to a mail box is slow with mail stating busy and then after a pause 
finally opening up the context menu and eventually the list to move to a 
mailbox. 

Does this improve with time?  It has been about a week.  

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I do have a lot of accounts and a lot of mailboxes where I organize 
information.  I expect I have a lot more mail than the average user.

Eric Caron 

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Re: Hygrometer, Talking Unit Found, Info Inside

[Eric Caron]

Hi Sieghard,

I’m very interested in this Netatmo device.  Any tips for me as I start 
shopping for it?  I would want the wind and rain gauge and probably two or 
three additional sensors.
Tips appreciated.

Eric Caron 

> On Mar 22, 2020, at 10:50 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
> 
> However, the flexibility and additional features you get from a connected 
> weather station like Netatmo which you would check via you r iPhone or Amazon 
> Echo are worth the extra cost to me. I have had my Netatmo for I think 7 
> years now and apart from changing batteries it’s performed reliably and I can 
> check the indoor and outdoor temperature at my house whether I’m at home or 
> travelling around the world (OK, not an option right now, I know).
> In addition to temperature I of course also get indoor and outdoor humidity, 
> CO2 level and noise level on the main indoor module.
> Since I have also purchased the rain and wind gauge I also get information 
> about that and the additional two indoor modules allow me to get temperature, 
> humidity and CO2 level in 4 rooms as the main module provides this 
> information as well as the 1 indoor module you get when you buy the station 
> (it’s in our bedroom) and then there are the two additional indoor modules 
> (one downstairs in my woodworking shop and one downstairs in our guest room).
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Re: Hygrometer, Talking Unit Found, Info Inside

[Eric Caron]

> On Mar 22, 2020, at 12:22 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sieghard,
> 
>   I’m very interested in this Netatmo device.  Any tips for me as I start 
> shopping for it?  I would want the wind and rain gauge and probably two or 
> three additional sensors.
> Tips appreciated.
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
>> On Mar 22, 2020, at 10:50 AM, Sieghard Weitzel > <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>> 
>> However, the flexibility and additional features you get from a connected 
>> weather station like Netatmo which you would check via you r iPhone or 
>> Amazon Echo are worth the extra cost to me. I have had my Netatmo for I 
>> think 7 years now and apart from changing batteries it’s performed reliably 
>> and I can check the indoor and outdoor temperature at my house whether I’m 
>> at home or travelling around the world (OK, not an option right now, I know).
>> In addition to temperature I of course also get indoor and outdoor humidity, 
>> CO2 level and noise level on the main indoor module.
>> Since I have also purchased the rain and wind gauge I also get information 
>> about that and the additional two indoor modules allow me to get 
>> temperature, humidity and CO2 level in 4 rooms as the main module provides 
>> this information as well as the 1 indoor module you get when you buy the 
>> station (it’s in our bedroom) and then there are the two additional indoor 
>> modules (one downstairs in my woodworking shop and one downstairs in our 
>> guest room).
>> 
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Re: Mail in Catalina

[Eric Caron]

Apologies,  I’m having some list difficulty and this was meant for another list.

I’m discussing Mac mail not iOS.

Eric Caron 



> On Mar 22, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
> Hi listers,
> 
>   One thing I have noticed after updating to Catalina is that moving 
> messages to a mail box is slow with mail stating busy and then after a pause 
> finally opening up the context menu and eventually the list to move to a 
> mailbox. 
> 
>   Does this improve with time?  It has been about a week.  
> 
> Have others noticed this behavior?
> 
>   I do have a lot of accounts and a lot of mailboxes where I organize 
> information.  I expect I have a lot more mail than the average user.
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
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Re: Hygrometer, Talking Unit Found, Info Inside

[Eric Caron]

Hi Sieghard,

This is great info.  And, this reminds me of how much I’ve missed by 
being off this list for a extended time.

I’m interested in the full set up but plan to download the app to check it out 
first.  Also, waiting for a sale seems like a very good idea. 

I appreciate the heads up on the mounting issues.  I can prepare in 
advance for locations and materials. 

I look forward to any other user input, but this seems like a great 
addition to my home. 

I do have a Nest thermostat and it gives me inside humidity on the app 
but not through Echo devices.  And outside info is from the web and not very 
consistent to my real situation.

Best,

Eric Caron 



> On Mar 22, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Just check it out at www.netatmo.com <http://www.netatmo.com/>, there would 
> also be a number of older posts about it in the archives.
> The app is accessible although you have to swipe for Voiceover to read the 
> information, touching and exploring the screen does not work very well.
> You can access all the basic info like indoor/outdoor temperature, humidity, 
> indoor CO2 levels and, for the main module, the noise level.
> Unfortunately at this point you can’t go back and see the information from 
> yesterday or other days in the past.
> The system consists of the initial package which is the main indoor module 
> and the outdoor module. The indoor module gets connected to power via Micro 
> USB and it’s about the size of one of the round Anker or other brand external 
> batteries, a cylinder made from aluminum maybe 2 inches thick and 4 or 5 
> inches long. Actually all modules have this form factor, could be that the 
> other modules are just a bit shorter.
> The outdoor and other indoor modules take 4 Triple A batteries and you can 
> simply use a coin to unscrew the plastic lid on one end to put them in.
> It’s been super long since I connected mine to WiFi and maybe the process has 
> changed, but basically you start out by downloading the app and you then do 
> whatever the wizard tells you to connect the indoor module to your WiFi. The 
> outdoor module which comes in the package is already paired to the indoor 
> module and you can easily have it 20 or 30 feet away unless maybe you live in 
> a house with concrete or stone walls, this may reduce the range a bit.
> You can add up to 3 more indoor modules as well as 1 rain gauge and 1 wind 
> gauge.
> The rain gauge is made from plastic, it has a funnel-like top and the water 
> it catches then falls through a small opening onto a tiny shovel which I 
> assume holds 1 Ml, when it’s full the weight of the water tips that shovel 
> down and spills the water out and another shovel on the other side is filled, 
> sort of like a tiny really well-balanced Seesaw.
> On the bottom is a standard threated tripod mount and I think it comes with a 
> mounting bracket.
> The wind gauge is also a thick plastic cylinder, maybe 4 inches thick with an 
> opening all the way around near the top, this is where the wind goes through 
> and it is measured. The app gives you wind speed, but I don’t think I saw 
> wind direction which I assume is there visually, but maybe Voiceover doesn’t 
> read it. I don’t have mine properly installed yet.
> Rain Gauge and Wind Gauge do need to be mounted correctly, the rain gauge 
> should best be about 3 feet above ground on a pole and of course you have to 
> make sure it is perfectly level since it would not measure totally correct if 
> it were tilted one way or another.
> The recommendation for the wind gauge is to have it mounted on the highest 
> part of your house’s roof and then on a pole which I believe should be 5 feet 
> tall. This means you probably have to get something made, I asked a guy to 
> weld together two steel plates in a V-shape so they fit perfectly across the 
> ridge of my house’s roof, then he will weld the 5-foot pole onto this and 
> I’ll mount the wind gauge on that. Of course you also have to use lots of 
> silicon or roof pitch to make sure you don’t get water coming through where 
> you screw this to the roof. The wind gauge has an arrow on it and it has to 
> be mounted so that the arrow points North, I still have to read or figure out 
> where this is supposed to be magnetic North or true North. This little detail 
> tells me that it does indicate wind direction as well as wind speed.
> The new stations now are I think also Home Kit compatible, mine is too old 
> for this since I purchased my main unit back in 2013. At that point the app 
> was barely useable, but when I contacted Netatmo I received a relatively 
> quick reply from their head developer, a Spaniard who was living in Paris, 
> France where the company is located. He was quite interested in access

Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

[Eric Caron]

Actually,  With all the stressors going on I have greatly enjoyed this thread 
and seeing how my phone is reacting the same or differently.  And, you never 
know, When Apple solves this it might help in preventing or solving other 
things.

On my 10S running 13.4 I hear the T in Yesterday with the Maile Siri voice and 
not with Alex.  I didn’t look beyond that.  I just enjoyed the curiosity of it.

Please, despite some peoples frustrations keep posting your observations.  

A little light hearted tech conversation is welcome.

Eric Caron 


> On Mar 26, 2020, at 2:27 PM, richr...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> With all the problems we are facing these days, some of you really need to 
> get a life!
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
> upgrade?
>  
> Actually, I'm the person who started the thread and I have an iPhone 8. I 
> thought it was an iOS 13.4 issue since I noticed it after upgrading to 13.4 
> but apparently others who have not yet upgraded are also noticing it. I've 
> reported it to Apple Accessibility and will not comment further on the issue 
> since I realize it's minuscule in the scheme of things. However, I personally 
> don't want Voiceover to start mispronouncing words it previously pronounced 
> correctly which seems to be happening with more frequency.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
> upgrade?
>  
> The person who started this topic is using an XR and someone else with the 
> issue had an 8 plus, I have an SE and the only voice that has this issue, 
> minor though it may be, is the Siri Female American voice.
> No other voices, in VoiceOver, or Siri have this pronunciation qwerk.
> And if folks running 13.3 are experiencing it with Samantha, then it most 
> certainly is a gremlin that should no longer be fed.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> sherrywells1...@gmail.com <mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
> upgrade?
>  
> I hate to prolong this thread but I’m wondering if this problem only occurs 
> on certain IPhone models.  I’ve seen several posts saying their 8 has this 
> issue & several that mention they have a newer model & do not have the issue. 
>  Maybe I missed some emails on this topic.  I don’t think everyone who has an 
> 8 needs to chime in but I’d like to hear from anyone who has a newer model & 
> has this pronunciation issue with yesterday.  It would go a long way to 
> solving it if the problem only occurred on certain models.
>  
> Sherry Wells
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
> upgrade?
>  
> Richard,
>  
> I had tried modifying my Voiceover pronunciations to customize yesterday to 
> correct this issue without success until I was successful now by spelling the 
> substitution word as yesterday spelling the second syllable as t u r instead 
> of t e r. For some strange reason, this corrects the pronunciation. Spelling 
> the substitution word with an upper case D for day did not change my iPhone's 
> pronunciation of the last syllable as if it began with a t.
>  
> Thanks for all the responses on this issue which I still find a bit 
> perplexing considering our varying results. But I'll put it to bed now.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
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> 

Re: Native Mail App Question

[Eric Caron]

Hi Danney,

What exactly are you hoping to have happen?  And, do you have access to 
your mail through a computer as well as your iPhone? 

If you want to have messages from a group such as this go to a specific mailbox 
that can be done with mail rules in the mail app on a Mac computer. Thats how I 
sort out several mailing lists. 

I  have done this also in google in the past so I expect most mail 
applications, at least on the computer can do that. 

My iPhone in box seems to be following the rules I set up on my computer.  I 
must admit however that I read most list emails on my computer by going to the 
mail box.  I don’t usually do that on my iPhone.

Still the messages are getting filtered correctly when I check my mail on my 
iPhone.

Eric Caron 



> On Mar 31, 2020, at 6:54 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Not that I'm aware of.
> I've asked for this for several years.
> Keep asking Apple to include this feature and maybe one day it will show up.
> I'd write Apple accessibility, but maybe more importantly add the feedback 
> through www.apple.com/feedback <http://www.apple.com/feedback>
> since this is not strictly an accessibility issue, their accessibility people 
> may not have much to say about this, but I figure the more people that hear 
> that this is a desired feature, the better.
> 
> 
> Richard
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Re: Native Mail App Question

[Eric Caron]

Yes, 

I think there is a way to get to rules in mail.  I don’t remember how I 
did it but I think it is through iCloud on the web.  If one can do that using 
safari through a iOS device then you might be able to set up the mail boxes and 
rules that way.  Certainly not an easy process. 

 I really appreciate the problem solving and info on this list.

Eric Caron 



> On Mar 31, 2020, at 11:33 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:
> 
> I wonder if you could log into the web mail version of  your email account 
> and set up rules there.  I rarely use webmail, but some providers might allow 
> this in their online interface through Safari. 
>  
> k
>  
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Wifi Assist , a tip that might be helpful

[Eric Caron]

Hi fellow listers,

I thought I’d share this.  While ordering an iPhone for a family member 
the Xfinity person mentioned to me that I might want to turn off Wifi Assist.  
Here is what I learned.

In the setting under cellular is a wifi assist option. 
When on the phone will select the strongest signal wifi or cell.

This means if you have a data plan your phone will use data even when wifi is 
available if the cell signal is stronger. 

In my case my phone would change to Cell and stay there for extended times.  I 
didn’t know wy and it was frustrating.  Once I changed the setting my phone 
stayed on wifi consistently. 

If you have unlimited data all good and use the option but, I’m on a shared 
data plan and I was the data hog without meaning to be. 

I hope this tip is helpful to others.

Eric Caron 

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GPS Apps for hiking?

[Eric Caron]

Hi foks,

Is there a good GPS  app for hiking?  I have apps for on the road but as I’m 
doing more off road hiking they are not helpful.

What are people using for hiking navigation and GPS info?

Thank you,

Eric Caron 

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Re: GPS Apps for hiking?

[Eric Caron]

Thanks folks, 

Keep the suggestions coming. 

I’ll try the near by explorer.  I had the app but never played with it.  I have 
good coverage so I’ll see if the paid version is worth it if it actually is 
useful when hiking. 

I’ve got a lot to learn to see if it is helpful.

If other apps might be more useful send the tips my way. 

Eric Caron 


> On May 7, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I think you will find the full program is still $79.99 on the App store.
> However, the free version has had some upgrades recently.
> 
> But, you will need GPS coverage and Data coverage since the free version 
> doesn't download the maps.
> 
> 
> Richard
> Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
> just stops you from enjoying the good."
> 
> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
> www.turner42.com
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> 
>> On May 7, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Robin  wrote:
>> 
>> Are you,MissKitty Referrin'To  APH's NearByExplorer or APH's 
>> NearByExplorerOnline?
>> I  know APH's NearByExplorerOnline is Free  on Both Apple's iOS as well as 
>> Google'sAndroid
>> But
>> I didn't know that APH's NearByExplorer was Also Free, is that  "what" you 
>> are sayin'?
>> At 05:49 PM 5/7/2020, you wrote:
>>> Have you tried nearby explorer?  You can now download it free from either 
>>> apple or google play.  I am not a hiker, but I find that it does give a 
>>> fair amount of info.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Eric Caron
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 6:46 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: GPS Apps for hiking?
>>> 
>>> Hi foks,
>>> 
>>> Is there a good GPS  app for hiking?  I have apps for on the road but as 
>>> I’m doing more off road hiking they are not helpful.
>>> 
>>>What are people using for hiking navigation and GPS info?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Eric Caron
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Re: GPS Apps for hiking?

[Eric Caron]

Can you tell me why you like it?  I just heard about the app from an old 2010 
book about a blind man that used it to help hike the Appalachian trail..


> On May 8, 2020, at 4:08 AM, Gradimir Kragić  wrote:
> 
> 
>Good GPS app is Loadstone for blind. More information on: 
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com
> 
>   ‚Best, Gradimir
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Eric Caron" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 11:46 PM
> Subject: GPS Apps for hiking?
> 
> 
> Hi foks,
> 
> Is there a good GPS  app for hiking?  I have apps for on the road but as I’m 
> doing more off road hiking they are not helpful.
> 
> What are people using for hiking navigation and GPS info?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Eric Caron
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Re: GPS Apps for hiking?

[Eric Caron]

I’m looking for info on both established trails but also less established ones. 
 And if a iPhone is not as strong as a designated receiver I’m ok with looking 
into that.

Those with experience hiking with GPS, I’m hoping have some good advice to 
share.

Eric 



> On May 9, 2020, at 11:33 AM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> Google Maps includes bike and hiking trails so it can offer turn by
> turn directions on these. Would you be on designated trails or hiking
> in areas off trail?
> 
> Kelly
> 
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> On 5/8/20, Eric Caron  wrote:
>> Can you tell me why you like it?  I just heard about the app from an old
>> 2010 book about a blind man that used it to help hike the Appalachian
>> trail..
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 8, 2020, at 4:08 AM, Gradimir Kragić  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Good GPS app is Loadstone for blind. More information on:
>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com
>>> 
>>> ‚Best, Gradimir
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: "Eric Caron" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 11:46 PM
>>> Subject: GPS Apps for hiking?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi foks,
>>> 
>>> Is there a good GPS  app for hiking?  I have apps for on the road but as
>>> I’m
>>> doing more off road hiking they are not helpful.
>>> 
>>> What are people using for hiking navigation and GPS info?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Eric Caron
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Re: GPS Apps for hiking?

[Eric Caron]

I’m looking for something that would be useful on say a 100 or 200 mile hike in 
the woods, say At trail.  Either something GPS locations can be added to or if 
possible even have it follow us on a map to indicate if we are on the trail. 

I’m new at this so not sure what is the most helpful.

Eric 


> On May 9, 2020, at 5:54 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> For non-established trails, are you looking for bread crumb navigation?
> 
> Prominent survival bloggers have evaluated iPhones and $500 Garman
> navigation devices in places without cell signals and found both offer
> the same level of accuracy. Realize though, calling the iPhone’s
> navigation capability GPS is inaccurate.  While it does use the Geo
> positioning System from the United States Government, the iPhone also
> uses the Global Navigation Satellite System or GLONAS from the Russian
> government, cell towers, Wi-Fi locations, and starting with the 2017
> iPhones, Galileo, the European satellite navigation system.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
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> On 5/9/20, Eric Caron  wrote:
>> I’m looking for info on both established trails but also less established
>> ones.  And if a iPhone is not as strong as a designated receiver I’m ok with
>> looking into that.
>> 
>> Those with experience hiking with GPS, I’m hoping have some good advice to
>> share.
>> 
>> Eric
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 9, 2020, at 11:33 AM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Google Maps includes bike and hiking trails so it can offer turn by
>>> turn directions on these. Would you be on designated trails or hiking
>>> in areas off trail?
>>> 
>>> Kelly
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> On 5/8/20, Eric Caron  wrote:
>>>> Can you tell me why you like it?  I just heard about the app from an old
>>>> 2010 book about a blind man that used it to help hike the Appalachian
>>>> trail..
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 8, 2020, at 4:08 AM, Gradimir Kragić  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good GPS app is Loadstone for blind. More information on:
>>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com
>>>>> 
>>>>>‚Best, Gradimir
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: "Eric Caron" 
>>>>> To: 
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 11:46 PM
>>>>> Subject: GPS Apps for hiking?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi foks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is there a good GPS  app for hiking?  I have apps for on the road but
>>>>> as
>>>>> I’m
>>>>> doing more off road hiking they are not helpful.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What are people using for hiking navigation and GPS info?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Eric Caron
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Re: Need Help with Generating / Finding Audio Labels for Moving Boxes

[Eric Caron]

Hi Mark, 

I totally feel your pain.  I really like the Digit-Eyes app but have 
not used it for years because I can’t get the audio labels to work reliably and 
easily. 

I have not found Way Around to be a good solution because the tags need 
to be ordered and they can be expensive when trying to label many items. 
More then that, at least, last time I checked, they were not a audio labeler, 
they only allowed for you to enter text.  I find this very limiting. 

I’m hoping for a better labeling iPhone solution in the future. 

One interesting app you can look at that is free is Navilense.  I hope I 
spelled that correctly.  It was recommended to me as a free audio labeling 
solution.  You print the labels yourself.  You can use the sheets you purchased 
for Digit-Eyes.  They are a unique system designed to work for the visually 
impaired.  I must admit they worked very well for me.  They are designed for 
the phone to pick up the label by the camera and do it easily, quickly and even 
from long distances. 

they just came out with a second pack of free labels.  So perhaps this 
might be a good solution.

I’d love a NFC solution like Way Around to have an audio labeling option and 
maybe an option for use of less expensive third party NFC tags. 

I hope this helps.  Try the Navilense app and let us know how it goes.

Eric Caron 


> On May 10, 2020, at 7:48 PM, Dave Clement  wrote:
> 
> Hello, 
> 
> I would recommend using WayAround tags for this. You can record the contents 
> of each box with a tag then duct tape or packing tape the tag to the box. You 
> record and read the tags using an iPhone or Android phone. Note that the tags 
> are completely reusable so you will have them after you unpack all the boxes 
> for any other tagging jobs. 
> 
> To learn more about WayAround tags, check their web site at:
> wayaround.com
> 
> WayAroundare currently hosting Zoom weekly sessions to introduce the tags and 
> provide tipson usage by others. The web site will lead you to these. 
> 
> WayAround is currently offering a discount, 15% I think,  on their tags. I 
> believe their dealers are also offering the discount. You can order from 
> WayAround or ATGuys in the U.S. In Canada, only Canadian Assistive Technology 
> sells the WayARound products. 
> 
> ATGuys.com
> canasstech.com
> 
> i hope this helps,
> 
> Dave Clement
> Winnipeg MB
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 10, 2020, at 3:29 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I need to find a way to generate some barcode labels or, perhaps, purchase
> some barcode labels that I can slap on moving boxes.
> 
> My first solution was to use the Digit Eyes app but, after trying for over
> 2-hours, with three different computers, Including Windows 7, Windows 10,
> and Mac OS Catalina, and 2 different laser printers, and, after purchasing
> the blank Avery labels the developer said I should get, I cannot get the
> printed barcodes to line up correctly on the actual labels.  I am extremely
> disappointed in this aspect of the digit Eyes app for iOS.  The funny thing
> is that the test print pages for Digit Eyes line up perfectly.  It is the
> generated PDF document that, even on screen, are not centered correctly.  I
> was told by the developer that they now generate their barcodes via Google.
> Whatever!  I have wasted enough time with Digit Eyes with regard to
> generating audio labels.  
> 
> Does anyone know of another off-the-shelf solution?  
> 
> Can one buy pre-printed barcodes that one could use with Digit Eyes? Or some
> other way I can reliably label boxes in order to have my phone tell me the
> contents of the box?
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: Need Help with Generating / Finding Audio Labels for Moving Boxes

[Eric Caron]

Hi Tracey, 

Thank you for posting the link.

As the topic has been brought up.  What I’m hoping for is a NFC audio 
tag recorder and reader.  Basically it could use the iPhone to do what the Pen 
friend does without needing a extra device. 

NFC is built into the phone and perfect for this application.  It is the tech 
apple uses for Apple Pay in stores and developers have access to it.

It is what Wayaround uses only they do text only and also use proprietary tags 
instead of mainstream tags.  They also seem to not be interested in adding 
audio recording only text.

I contacted Digit-eyes about this before COVID19 and I thought they 
were considering using it but over two monthss have gone by and I have not 
heard any updates.

I also wrote to Way around twice about 6 months apart asking if they would be 
adding Audio recording.  I didn’t get a response.


NFC Near Field Communication, I believe has the best solution for audio and 
text labeling on the iPhone.  Navilens has the potential to use the camera to 
identify it’s tags at a distance.  This might be also useful but I think more 
so for other applications.  Still, it works quickly and affordably
.

Eric Caron 

> On May 11, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Here’s a link to that app.
> 
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/navilens/id1273704914 
> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/navilens/id1273704914>
> 
> Also, I was wondering as a potential solution, could you create your own bar 
> codes for seeing AI? Alternatively, could you create qr codes for the 
> built-in qr code reader in the iPhone? 
> 
> Curious, 
> Traci 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 11, 2020, at 1:22 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> Not answering your question but where you heading to?
>> 
>> Anywhere exciting?
>> 
>> Simon F
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
>> Taylor
>> Sent: Monday, 11 May 2020 8:29 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Need Help with Generating / Finding Audio Labels for Moving Boxes
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I need to find a way to generate some barcode labels or, perhaps, purchase 
>> some barcode labels that I can slap on moving boxes.
>> 
>> My first solution was to use the Digit Eyes app but, after trying for over 
>> 2-hours, with three different computers, Including Windows 7, Windows 10, 
>> and Mac OS Catalina, and 2 different laser printers, and, after purchasing 
>> the blank Avery labels the developer said I should get, I cannot get the 
>> printed barcodes to line up correctly on the actual labels.  I am extremely 
>> disappointed in this aspect of the digit Eyes app for iOS.  The funny thing 
>> is that the test print pages for Digit Eyes line up perfectly.  It is the 
>> generated PDF document that, even on screen, are not centered correctly.  I 
>> was told by the developer that they now generate their barcodes via Google.
>> Whatever!  I have wasted enough time with Digit Eyes with regard to 
>> generating audio labels.  
>> 
>> Does anyone know of another off-the-shelf solution?  
>> 
>> Can one buy pre-printed barcodes that one could use with Digit Eyes? Or some 
>> other way I can reliably label boxes in order to have my phone tell me the 
>> contents of the box?
>> 
>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: from BlindSquare: COVID-19 Keeping us indoors, with unique opportunities supported by BlindSquare and NaviLens.

[Eric Caron]

Hi Richard,

Is Blind Squaire Event basically the same app as Blind Square just free 
until November?  A trial for those that don’t have the app? 

I was wondering if it was different as I have not mastered using it for 
following routes for exploration or for hiking purposes.

Also wondering if it is integrating Navilens or they are still separate apps.

Eric Caron 


> On May 13, 2020, at 2:13 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> COVID-19 Keeping us indoors, with unique opportunities supported by 
> BlindSquare and NaviLens.
> by Caleigh Nevin 
> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.blindsquare.com%2Fauthor%2Fcaleighnevin%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4ba5c4dbf5f740a72bcf08d7f768c570%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637249901679251307&sdata=34GXju6UIDMxyQMMPUeBbod22JGdsnMYheq4fDoJLbI%3D&reserved=0>
> 
> 
> May 21st is Global Accessibility Awareness Day, focusing on digital access 
> and inclusion for the more than one billion people with disabilities. 
> 
> Across our globe, the impact of the pandemic is found. Some impacts are led 
> by common sense (avoid exposures, battle all exposures with “be clean” 
> responses), and some by country/local laws restricting travel entirely or by 
> degree.
> 
> BlindSquare 
> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fblindsquare.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4ba5c4dbf5f740a72bcf08d7f768c570%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637249901679251307&sdata=e5JS397x0GsrmzyGQdF8em4zYNKQrfvN%2Foz4PwxSTdk%3D&reserved=0>
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>  join to serve on the frontline.
> 
> Being stuck indoors.
> Has the pandemic created a greater impact for persons who are blind, 
> deafblind, or partially sighted?  Absolutely. These persons now have a 
> heightened need to “be aware” of current locations and planned destinations. 
> They need to know where they are and limit their exposures.
> 
> A new opportunity to experience your environment. 
> BlindSquare 
> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fblindsquare.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4ba5c4dbf5f740a72bcf08d7f768c570%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637249901679261303&sdata=PKIIPYVwvLLDhbzyzdzFxTC3UB6nfhrgbnf8Px8emUY%3D&reserved=0>
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>  leaders in improving the lives for those who are blind/deafblind or 
> partially sighted, bring you an opportunity to discover abilities and equip 
> yourself in anticipation of a return to a new normal, and to provide you 
> greater independence, comfort, and location awareness with immediate and long 
> term rewards.
> 
> BlindSquare is the world’s most widely used accessible GPS iOS app developed 
> for persons who are blind, deafblind or partially sighted. With the help of 
> third-party navigation apps, BlindSquare’s self-voicing app delivers detailed 
> points of interest and intersections for safe, reliable travel. Paired with 
> NaviLens, the app that scans proprietary codes to deliver situational 
> information instantly, this duo offers an unmatched experience for users to 
> navigate independently and more importantly in today’s environment, safely.
> 
> While our products have been helpful for our current users, we pondered, why 
> it can’t be great for all during this stress-filled time? We looked for a way 
> to solve this, without cost.
> 
> BlindSquare’s reputation, across its 8 years of service, is replete with 
> personal success stories such as those that extoll the value of travel 
> information for making informed choices and the ability to “simulate” future 
> destinations for adventure.  When using simulation, BlindSquare behaves just 
> as if you’re there! And with NaviLens 
> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.navilens.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4ba5c4dbf5f740a72bcf08d7f768c570%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637249901679271294&sdata=fgwTWVhwwYtxWfa%2BypW5sXRyuF%2F8UBBVh2s81vWtUuE%3D&reserved=0>
>  on board  your device, you have access to their award-winning technology to 
> create personal tags that can be used to “label your world” for such things 
> as cupboard 

Needed, an app to tell you quickly how fast you are walking

[Eric Caron]

Hi Listers,

I need to know if there is an app that tracks your walking speed and 
can tell you how fast you are walking and adjust as you speed up and slow down. 
 It needs to work more quickly than say  Blind square.  

I’m told an app called motion X did this but is no longer available. 

Tips and ideas are greatly appreciated.

Eric Caron 

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Re: Navigation App Recommendation

[Eric Caron]

Try Voice Vista and set up markers and beacons.

Eric 


> On Feb 11, 2024, at 10:31 AM, MMMAT  wrote:
> 
> I have a friend that lives in a very rural area.  His problem is that it is 
> quite a long walk from his trailer home to the mailbox and there are no paved 
> roads where he is walking. The distance from his home to the mailbox is 
> approximately 200 yards of unpaved roads.
>  
> Sometimes, he gets disoriented and is looking for an iPhone App that he can 
> use to find the way to and from his home to the mailbox and back.  What are 
> your recommendations based on your experiences using a navigation app for 
> these purposes.  Something easy to set up and use is a priority.
>  
> Regards,
> Mario 
>  
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Re: iPhone, and Bluetooth issues

[Eric Caron]

Hi folks,

I’ve noticed this issue for some time and thought it was just me.  I’ve 
tried all the same steps turning off the phone, turning off bluetooth, emptying 
the app switcher. 
I tried it with different devices connected and disconnected to the 
phone.  I mostly notice the problem when on phone calls.  I miss sections of 
speech.  I also have hearing aids and they are loosing the connection in 
different ears at different times.  Same issues with aftershocks and Bose 
glasses.

I think it also happens when phone is in speaker mode but it is less 
noticeable.  I could turn off bluetooth for calls but I have a medical device 
connected so prefer not to do that. 
 Anyone come up with a solution?
I’m running a iPhone 10S with 16.5.1. 

Eric Caron 



> On May 24, 2023, at 8:15 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
> 
> I have a similar problem.  What works for me is to turn blue tooth off and on 
> again.  That clears it up.  
> 
>> On May 23, 2023, at 6:02 PM, Loreal Lavigna  wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t have any problem with VoiceOver, and it only seems to occur when I 
>> am connected to Bluetooth for a speaker or for AirPods. I can cast some 
>> thing to my TV without there being an issue, but it’s weird whenever it’s 
>> connected to Bluetooth for audio. Only, it seems to be an issue. It was 
>> happening before the release of iOS 16.5, so I don’t think it’s a version 
>> issue at least not with the latest version anyway. I’ve never had any issue 
>> with voice over at all, so I can’t say there’s anything there either. 
>> 
>> Loreal
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2023, at 7:06 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi there,
>>> 
>>> If you are running 16.5, I am having the same issue on my phone. And, when 
>>> I don’t have airPods in, my VoiceOver gets snappy and it cracks through my 
>>> speakers. I thought it was my phone.
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> Jennie Facer
>>> 
>>>> On May 23, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Loreal Lavigna  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have tried all of the above, and have still not seen any resolution.
>>>> 
>>>> Loreal
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 23, 2023, at 4:26 PM, Barbara Stahl  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Have you tried turning the bluetooth off and then back on again?  Or try 
>>>>> turning off the phone and then turning it back on again.  Those things 
>>>>> can sometimes fix weird issues that pop up.  
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 23, 2023, at 11:31 AM, Loreal Lavigna  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just curious. I’ve noticed very recently I’m having an issue with any 
>>>>>> Bluetooth speakers/earbuds/AirPods. Makes no difference what is 
>>>>>> connected to my phone, but after a bit of time, there is a sound like 
>>>>>> breaking up in the speaker or in the AirPods. I would compare it to if 
>>>>>> you were driving, and you’re going through a dead zone where you have 
>>>>>> sound, then you don’t, then it kind of bounces between having it and not 
>>>>>> having it, but it’s very choppy. I’ve tried the same thing on my iPad 
>>>>>> and everything works as it should. But I cannot figure out what I might 
>>>>>> be having an issue with. I’ve even gone so far as to reset all settings, 
>>>>>> but ultimately not reset my device to factory defaults and have to 
>>>>>> reinstall and re-sync data. I’m trying to avoid that at all costs if it 
>>>>>> all possible. Like I said, the issue does not appear to be on my iPad, 
>>>>>> but does appear instead to be on my iPhone. I am using an iPhone 13 
>>>>>> promax, 256 GB,  And on my iPad where I don’t have any issues it is an 
>>>>>> iPad mini latest generation also running 16.41A. I am actually in the 
>>>>>> process of upgrading to 16.5 to see if perhaps this might rectify the 
>>>>>> issue. I would be interested to find out if anyone else has run into 
>>>>>> this issue and if so, what may have been done to correct it short of if 
>>>>>> it all possible, resetting the device to factory defaults and erasing 
>>>>>> all data and contacts. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Loreal
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Restore iPhone via iCloud Backup

[Eric Caron]

I’ve had this happen before. 

Sometimes fixed by asking Siri to turn VO off and on again.

Also sometimes fixed by turning up volume after doing something like a double 
finger swipe down to activate the VO voice so it is talking while I increase 
volume. 

Best of luck 

Eric Caron 



> On Sep 2, 2024, at 8:46 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have a serious problem with my iPhone SE 3, VoiceOver is not speaking.
> 
> Here are some pertinent items:
> - 128 MB memory
> - most recent 17* iOS.
> - current voice is Alex
> - running DEXCOM G7
> - VoiceOver sounds (clicks, etc.) are clearly audible
> - have executed 3-finger double-tap to no effect.
> - have rebooted several times to no effect
> - triple press on physical home button clearly toggles VoiceOver
> 
> Can anyone advise as how to restore iOS via a Mac/iCloud backup?
> 
> 
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Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple

[Eric Caron]

Hi Barbra,

You may want to double check the head sets.  The latest Bard mobil app is 
broken for many headsets.  My Pose and my aftershocks no longer will start and 
stop play.

Eric Caron 


> On Sep 2, 2024, at 11:34 AM, Barbara Stahl  
> wrote:
> 
> I have several from different brands that work.  They are Pioneer, boes,  
> something like lux or something like that and J Lab studios.  All of these 
> allow me to start and stop playing bard books using the buttons on the 
> headphones.  However, what they won't do is allow me to rewind or fast 
> forward through the book, instead, pressing these buttons skips back or 
> forward by sections.  
> 
>> On Sep 2, 2024, at 11:16 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> I’ve written NLS again about how some bluetooth headphones won’t pause 
>> BARDMobile books, like my Shokz OpenRun and OpenComm headphones.
>> The Apple brand Bluetooth headphones do work, but they also think there are 
>> a few non Apple brand Bluetooth headphones that work but they are not sure 
>> of the brands.  
>> Does anyone use a non Apple Bluetooth headphone that works for pausing a 
>> BARD audio book?  If so, which brand and model?
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard, USA
>> "INTROVERTS UNITE ... 
>> SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
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Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple

[Eric Caron]

Personally I have a huge problem with this bug.  I know that many users are not 
as lucky as Josh and report that they can’t use their headsets.  I don’t think 
this app with the bug should have replaced the Bard mobil app until it was 
fixed.

It has been found that it relates to the speed setting on the app.  
Make the speed normal and many head sets work.  But, many of us read books at 
speeds far beyond the normal, setting. 

This is a costly bug as I expect many folks are looking for headsets to 
purchase that work, when we really don’t need another expensive headset.

Eric Caron 



> On Sep 5, 2024, at 4:47 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t see a new update when ios 18 comes out. I 
> don’t have a big problem with this issue. Most of my headphones do when I hit 
> a button. Sometimes I can hit the button twice quickly and my book will stop.
> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
> 
>> On Sep 3, 2024, at 6:42 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Good thought, but no.
>> I’ve tried the slight pause between presses and nothing.  It will start it 
>> playing if it is stopped, but it won’t stop it if it is playing.
>> If I press twice too quickly, it jumps to the next chapter or part and three 
>> quick presses goes backward the same chapter or part, depending on the 
>> setting.
>> We’ll see whenever they get around to releasing a new update.
>>  
>>  
>> Richard, USA
>> "INTROVERTS UNITE ... 
>> SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
>> -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
>>  
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com/>
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2024 4:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by 
>> Apple
>>  
>> Id have a nonApple pair of headphones that  start and stop with only one 
>> press of the button. They are my Perytong headphones that are sold on Amazon 
>> as a sleep band, but that I wear as much or more when I am up and about, 
>> being that I easily can hear outside noise and can talk to people while 
>> wearing them. None of my other nonApple headphones work with just one press 
>> of the button, including my Beats Flex headphones, which are sort of Apple. 
>> but in all cases, two presses of the button will stop it. i press and 
>> release, wait a quarter to half a second or so, then press and release again 
>> and it stops.  Until they get it straightened out, Iwonder if this method 
>> would work with your after shocks? 
>>  
>> Arnold Schmidt 
>>  
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3
>> 
>> On Sep 2, 2024, at 11:16 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> I’ve written NLS again about how some bluetooth headphones won’t pause 
>> BARDMobile books, like my Shokz OpenRun and OpenComm headphones.
>> The Apple brand Bluetooth headphones do work, but they also think there are 
>> a few non Apple brand Bluetooth headphones that work but they are not sure 
>> of the brands.  
>> Does anyone use a non Apple Bluetooth headphone that works for pausing a 
>> BARD audio book?  If so, which brand and model?
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard, USA
>> "INTROVERTS UNITE ... 
>> SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
>> -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
>>  
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com/>
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Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple

[Eric Caron]

Hi Richard,

The bug was well reported to NLS during the Beta process.  I was on the 
Beta test group.  I was surprised Bard put in the app with the known bug.  I 
personally think they should have waited until it was fixed.

Just after that I think one of the beta testers realized that, at least in most 
cases, the head sets would work if the speed was set to 100 percent, or normal. 
 I never use normal unless it is a language or music lesson.  Apparently this 
was true of the other Beta testers as none of us caught it for some time. 

I would hope with the early knowledge of the bug, and now this additional info 
it can be resolved. 

In the meantime does anyone know if the latest Metta Ray Bands work with Bard 
when in faster speeds?

Eric Caron 
 




> On Sep 8, 2024, at 12:12 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> And I have been corresponding with the NLS folks and they are working on it.
> This is the kind of bug that would be very hard to catch before release as 
> many people have headsets that work fine no matter the speed.
> I hope this gets fixed soon.  Now that they have it narrowed down to the 
> speed issue, let’s hope they can get a fix out soon.
> Absolutely no need to buy a different headset, as you can still use the 
> screen to stop the book.
> Richard, USA
> "INTROVERTS UNITE ... 
> SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
> -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
>  
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com/>
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Eric Caron
> Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2024 5:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by 
> Apple
>  
> Personally I have a huge problem with this bug.  I know that many users are 
> not as lucky as Josh and report that they can’t use their headsets.  I don’t 
> think this app with the bug should have replaced the Bard mobil app until it 
> was fixed.
>  
>It has been found that it relates to the speed setting on the 
> app.  Make the speed normal and many head sets work.  But, many of us read 
> books at speeds far beyond the normal, setting. 
>  
>This is a costly bug as I expect many folks are looking for 
> headsets to purchase that work, when we really don’t need another expensive 
> headset.
>  
> Eric Caron 
>  
>  
> 
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 4:47 AM, Joshua Hendrickson > <mailto:louv...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t see a new update when ios 18 comes out. 
>> I don’t have a big problem with this issue. Most of my headphones do when I 
>> hit a button. Sometimes I can hit the button twice quickly and my book will 
>> stop.
>> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2024, at 6:42 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Good thought, but no.
>>> I’ve tried the slight pause between presses and nothing.  It will start it 
>>> playing if it is stopped, but it won’t stop it if it is playing.
>>> If I press twice too quickly, it jumps to the next chapter or part and 
>>> three quick presses goes backward the same chapter or part, depending on 
>>> the setting.
>>> We’ll see whenever they get around to releasing a new update.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Richard, USA
>>> "INTROVERTS UNITE ... 
>>> SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
>>> -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
>>>  
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com/>
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2024 4:05 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by 
>>> Apple
>>>  
>>> Id have a nonApple pair of headphones that  start and stop with only one 
>>> press of the button. They are my Perytong headphones that are sold on 
>>> Amazon as a sleep band, but that I wear as much or more when I am up and 
>>> about, being that I easily can hear outside noise and can talk to people 
>>> while wearing them. None of my other nonApple headphones work with just one 
>>> press of th

Re: Ray-Ban Meta glasses

[Eric Caron]

I would be interested in joining.

Eric Caron 


> On Sep 9, 2024, at 1:35 PM, Kerry Macdonald  wrote:
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> I would love to join your group as I am planning to get these glasses very 
> soon.
> 
> 
> Kerry
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 9, 2024, at 10:42 AM, Dana Leet  wrote:
>> 
>> If any of you are getting or have the Ray-Ban meta-glasses. I created a 
>> WhatsApp group so that we can discuss and support each other with this. I 
>> felt it was appropriate to post here because the glasses utilize an app on 
>> our phones for the ability to use them. If anyone’s interested, I will post 
>> the link below and we would love to have you in our group, especially if 
>> you’re using the glasses so you can help others and also give us the 
>> experiences that you’ve been having using them. Thanks and have a great day.
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Re: ring doorbell

[Eric Caron]

I just received a email from ring that a new version of the battery Doorbell is 
now available.  That would be a good place to start.  But if you have wiring 
for an old doorbell you can use a wired version and that would be nice as well.

Eric Caron 


> On Sep 10, 2024, at 5:39 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
> 
> This is the one I purchased from Amazon. You will need some sighted hehlp 
> initially but the majority you can do yourself.
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08N5NQ869/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
> - Original Message - 
> From: "'Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2024 10:57 AM
> Subject: ring doorbell
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> 
> having had a couple of unwanted callers at my door thought it was maybe
> time I got the ring doorbell. Is there just one ring doorbell or
> several to choose from. If there are several which one do people think
> would be best for someone with no sight and far from very techy.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Linda
> 
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Re: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

[Eric Caron]

This may not be your hearing aids.

Using different bluetooth devices I’m told now and then I can’t be 
heard on a call.  Turning off bluetooth and talking on the phone directly fixes 
it.  The problem is not consistent on the bluetooth devices.  It happens often 
with my aftershocks. 

Usually my hearing aids do work with bluetooth on as long as other headsets are 
not connected.

Eric Caron 




> On Sep 24, 2024, at 8:39 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> Hey Carolyn, I think you might wanna make an audiology appointment and have 
> them look at this. Because the only thing I can think of, is that the 
> microphones are clogged up. This could be why they're breaking in and out.
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 7:13 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So much of the time, when I'm on the phone, people tell me
>> I'm breaking up, even to the point that I changed from AT&T
>> to Verizon to try to get better coverage. It probably is a
>> little better, but still, people continue to say I'm
>> breaking up. 
>> 
>> Somehow, it dawned on me, that maybe Bluetooth to my hearing
>> aids was the problem, so today when on a call, I told the
>> caller to let me switch it off, and it did give a clearer
>> connection to her. 
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>> on. 
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Re: Walmart f...

[Eric Caron]

Please, can we have some basic language respect on the list?

I use talking software and do not like this unexpected language 
blasting out of my computer or phone. 

I first thought the subject was a spam message and was sad to see this is now 
where our list has degraded to.

I hope we can agree to use respectful language going forward. 

If one needs to express that a app is broken that can be done creatively, and 
helpfully with other words.

Best.

Eric 


> On Oct 1, 2024, at 2:49 PM,   
> wrote:
> 
> Can we keep our language clean please.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
> Chaffin
> Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2024 1:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Walmart fucks.
>  
>  
> I just started using the web browser, so I have not tried checking out with a 
> browser yet.  I will give this a try and report back.
>  
> Chris Chaffin
>  
> 
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2024, at 2:20 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi are you able to check out using the web brozer? Since when I tried to 
>> check out using google crome it wouldn’t allow me to check out but on the 
>> phone it was fine. It was like the websight had the check out button dimmed 
>> out. From Mich Verrier from NewLiskeard Ontario Canada.  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
>> Chaffin
>> Sent: October 1, 2024 2:14 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Walmart fucks.
>>  
>>  
>> Its not you or your phone.  I have been having the same problems for a while 
>> now.  And its not an iOS 18 issue.  For me, it started before I updated my 
>> phone.
>>  
>> I have stopped using the app and started accessing it through a web browser. 
>>  It works fine for me in a web browser.  On my phone I use Safari, and on my 
>> laptop I use Google Chrome.
>>  
>> Chris Chaffin
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2024, at 11:44 AM, Jenny Bomareto 
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sorry I can't help it!!  I updated the app today, and it's still doing the 
>>> same crap, in my items.  Also I turned off my phone.  Then turned it back 
>>> on again, and still the same thing occured once I opened the app.
>>> Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
>>> Jenny Bomareto
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 15
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