[wdvltalk] more test

2004-06-28 Thread Smile-Poet
yes, more test

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[wdvltalk] Test

2004-06-27 Thread Smile-Poet
Yes, it's a test

Leave the poor thing alone

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[wdvltalk] Re: [OT] disappearing drive letter

2004-06-18 Thread Smile-Poet

 On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 17:21, Smile-Poet wrote:
  I have set a new partition formatted for Linux which is shown to be in
line
  for drive letter 'G'.   With Partition Manager I hve several times set
this
  by the 'mount' option.
 
  However, when I restart the letter has gone.   Is this because Wndows
hates
  Linux, or should I look in another direction?
 
 Is this partition a FAT/NTFS one or a Linux (ext2/3 ReiserFS or XFS
 like)?

 I think Windows does not recognize any linux partitions.

 HTH
 R'twick

R'twick,

That makes sense;   I see I didn't note that I also keep getting asked if I
want to format the partition, which is already done, of course!

Thanks,

Joseph


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[wdvltalk] Re: [OT] iso to software discs - linux

2004-06-18 Thread Smile-Poet
 On Sun, 2004-06-13 at 21:21, Smile-Poet wrote:
  Mandrake 10 comes to me as 3 iso discs to transfer to the hard disc and
then
  burn three CDs to install the program.   I have set up a partition for
linux
  (though each time I assign a letter it disappears again!).
 
  My old machine cut two of the discs and I eventually realised the third
disc
  was over the 650mb (at 695) that is the limit of the old CD-Writer.
The
  new machine does not have an iso to disc facility.   I am hoping ISO
Buster
  does have though it is unlikely.
 
  Is there a free program that will do the job, or is there another way of
  getting round this?

 I think Roxio as well as Nero has a free version of their cd burning
 software which can burn iso images.

 R'twick


R'twick,

I have a free Nero version which*doesn't* have the needed facility, but then
it is quite old!   I'll try Cheryl's recommendation first, and if it doesn't
do the job I'll have a look at Roxio and then, if needed, Nero.

It took me a long time to realise that the third iso disc to burn for
mandrake was over the size manageable on my old system.   Hope I'll be more
alert!   Still have to get more discs...

Joseph


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[wdvltalk] RE: [OT] disappearing drive letter

2004-06-18 Thread Smile-Poet

From: Jon Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi Joseph,

  However, when I restart the letter has gone.   Is this because
  Wndows hates Linux, or should I look in another direction?

 I don't think you can assign it a drive letter unless it's FAT or NTFS. If
 it's a Linux partition and you didn't choose any outrageous setup options,
 it's probably ext2 or ext3.

 If you haven't already, take a look in Disk Management (right-click My
 Computer and select Manage) - I imagine the partition will be displayed
as
 unformatted or unrecognised, or possibly damaged if Microsoft are
 feeling competitive about this.

 If you boot into Linux and run cfdisk, you should be able to see all your
 partitions laid out correctly.

 You may find dual-booting is a lot easier with a second hard drive, as you
 can do whatever you want to either OS without the worry of screwing up the
 other one. If you've got a spare 10Gb drive from an old PC lying around
then
 now's the time to get out the screwdriver :-)

 Cheers
 Jon


Jon,

So I'm lucky that Windows keeps the partition letter until the end of the
session?

I haven't got any Linux OS installed yet, so presumably the fun of getting
it all to be happy together has yet to come.   If Linux proves a real boon
for my needs I will be looking at a second drive.

It might all be helped anyway by the new drive that actually has a program
in it to grab information logically instead of sequentially;   apparently
negates the advantage of spin speed.   Although it is stall a way from
production it seems.

Joseph


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[wdvltalk] [OT] disappearing drive letter

2004-06-17 Thread Smile-Poet
I have set a new partition formatted for Linux which is shown to be in line
for drive letter 'G'.   With Partition Manager I hve several times set this
by the 'mount' option.

However, when I restart the letter has gone.   Is this because Wndows hates
Linux, or should I look in another direction?

(Drives are:
HDD -C, D, E, G
CD/DVD - F).

Joseph

PS  I have also tried setting the letter as 'H' - same nothing. (Dell PIV,
Xp, 512 RAM, only (only?) 80G HD)


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[wdvltalk] RE: [OT] iso to software discs - linux

2004-06-14 Thread Smile-Poet
Thanks Cheryl, that looks good.   I had always felt a little suspicious of
Power Toys, but clearly it is I that am at fault!   Now I just have to get
some more discs.  :-/

Joseph

 There is an ISO Recorder Power Toy available at
 http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm

 Make sure that you read the notes on the 10/11/02 updates. A man for the
 offtopic list.


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 -Original Message-
 From: Smile-Poet

 My old machine cut two of the discs and I eventually realised the third
disc
 was over the 650mb (at 695) that is the limit of the old CD-Writer.   The
 new machine does not have an iso to disc facility.   I am hoping ISO
Buster
 does have though it is unlikely.

 Is there a free program that will do the job, or is there another way of
 getting round this?


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[wdvltalk] what links to avoid -- freezing in MySQL?

2004-06-08 Thread Smile-Poet
Following on from Drew's helpful comments:

To avoid the difficulty of bloated and therefore inefficient and
problem-causing tables it seems obvious to use links and a folder of files.
Exisiting blog scripts are not set up for this, of course (or are there ones
that are?).And there is a puzzle in how the urls should be written.   So
two questions.

Is there a relatively simple way to adapt a script to take the text from
files?

Secondly, since the Db is presumably at the same level as the root directory
on a regular host server what would be the way to get the script to search
there?(I am thinking /... and ../... might not point outside 'root')

Joseph



 Long text does seem to cause all kinds of problems in many places. We've
had
 some horrific driver issues with blog text in Cold Fusion apps. So you
 aren't alone.

 drew


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[wdvltalk] RE: [OT] freezing in MySQL

2004-06-07 Thread Smile-Poet
Drew,

I have uninstalled everything that has been recently added but there is no
change in the problem.   However I see that a 'hotfix' was installed by M$
on 15 May.I wonder if uninstalling that might be my answer?Is it
likely to be affecting any part of a local server, since it seems to be
related to the risk of remote code execution?

The Security bulletin is:

Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-015 Vulnerability in Help and
Support Center Could Allow emote Code Execution (840374)

And the part that may be relevant says:

  Workarounds for Help and   support Center Vulnerability -
CAN-2004-0199:
Microsoft has tested the following workarounds. While  these workarounds
will not correct the underlying  vulnerability, they help block known attack
vectors. When a workaround reduces functionality, it is identified below.

  . Unregister the HCP Protocol.
  To help prevent an attack, unregister the HCP Protocol by deleting the
following key from the registry: HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\HCP. To do so, follow
these steps:
   1.  Click Start, and then click Run.
2.   Type regedit, and then click OK.
The registry editor program launches.
3. Expand HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT, and then highlight the HCP key.
4.   Right-click the HCP key, and then click
Delete.

What do you think??

Joseph


 Not so  'Aha...'

 Still freezing.I have removed all the tables except the controlling
 'mysql'.Do I need to reinstall the whole bundle of progams (Easyphp
with
 Apache, MySQL and PHP)?Or just MySQL.   Or is there another answer?

 If, with phpMyAdmin, I open a database I can, variably, open none, one,
two,
 or three tables;  but the next table starts to show a limping attempt and
 then freezes.   I can only get back into the databases by restarting the
 machine.

 Programs outside the local server do not appear to be affected   The local
 website, Blog and ghostshop all appear to be running (though now moaning
 about the lack of databases).

 Joseph

 ++

 Take the blog program off not just the tables. If you've done that and I
 simple am misunderstanding, then you van put it all back  and take off the
 Via Voice. One piece at a time so there is no question about where the
 problems lies when it is found.

 drew


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[wdvltalk] RE: [OT] freezing in MySQL

2004-06-03 Thread Smile-Poet
drew,

At least you're not suggesting a complete reinstallation...
...
...
...yet...

Joseph

PS Thanks for the advice;   I'll let you know how it goes.



 This may have happened since I loaded Weblog and put its tables in one of
 the databases.   ...   The other main thing I have
 installed is Via Voice.


 Joseph

 +++

 Joe, seems you haven't gotten much response to your request. So here's the
 one bit of troubleshooting advice you didn't want to hear: undo the last
 thing you did and see if that fixes it. Take out Weblog tables first see
if
 it solves the problem. Then the entire weblog app. If not then try Via
 Voice.

 drew


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[wdvltalk] [OT] freezing in MySQL

2004-06-02 Thread Smile-Poet
Does anyone have any idea why MySQL is freezing on local server.   And it
then progessively freezes everything.

This may have happened since I loaded Weblog and put its tables in one of
the databases.   I have not been doing much for a couple of weeks, which is
why I am not sure what may have caused it.   The other main thing I have
installed is Via Voice.

It had all been working without trouble.

Joseph


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[wdvltalk] Re: Compressed files

2004-05-23 Thread Smile-Poet
Jan,

I use PowerDesk 4, which is s a free program;   here are some leads:

Powerdesk 4 product information

Company: Ontrack Data International

Home page: www.ontrack.co.uk

Download page: www.www.ontrack.com/freesoftware

Download size: 1.1Mbytes

Joseph

 Hi list,
 I have a file with .tgz extension. I have tried to open it using 
 win.zip, which has the extension listed in its options, and it won't 
 work. Does anyone else know how I can get this file decompressed? I 
 have downloaded several other unzip programs, including .tar and gzip 
 but can't seem to get them to work.
 
 Help will be gratefully appreciated.
 
 Jan


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[wdvltalk] slip between cup of cookie and lip of cart_id

2004-05-19 Thread Smile-Poet
Just returned to puzzling away at this failing script.   The cookie is set
in the cookies folder, but no entry in the table appears to create a cart
id.   This is the start of the class file (any advice on how to proceed):


class ShoppingCart {
 //Get the cart id
 //If one is not available, make one
 function get_cart_id(){
  if(!isset($_COOKIE['cid'])){
   $cart_id = FALSE;
  }else{
   $cart_id = $_COOKIE['cid'];
   $_SESSION['cid'] = $_COOKIE['cid'];
  }
  if($_SESSION['cid']){
   $cart_id = $_SESSION['cid'];
   if($_SESSION['login']){
@mysql_query(UPDATE members SET
 cart_id='$cart_id'
 WHERE id=' .$_SESSION['userid']. ' );
   }
  }else{
   $cart_id = FALSE;
  }
  if(!$cart_id){
   return FALSE;
  }else{
   return $cart_id;
  }
 }

Joseph




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[wdvltalk] RE: [OT] Xp read only

2004-05-06 Thread Smile-Poet
Cheryl,

Ain't no such chicken in my shed.   Ummm.That is to say it is not on my
list;   this is Xp Home - does that make a difference?   And the list is the
same from Control Panel.

What is this third option for, anyway?   Read only and write to are obvious
alternatives, but the middle option looks like one of those Einsteinian
theories!

Joseph

 Open my Computer and from the Tools menu select Folder Options. On the
 View tab scroll down and remove the check from Use simple file sharing
 (Recommended)

 You will still have its read only checked but it won't make any real
 difference. It the problem is with not being able to write to your
database
 the solution is to add the IUSER_machine name to the security tot and give
 that account write privileges.

 Cheryl D. Wise
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 MS-MVP-FrontPage
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 -Original Message-
 From: Smile-Poet

 Weird is the alternate name for M$ I know.   But I am finding that I
cannot
 alter the read-only settings (which I think have changed without my doing
 anything that I know of).   Practically all the folders show up with the
 greyed tick.   I click to remove the tick and 'apply' and 'OK'.   I open
up
 and the grey tick is back.

 I have worked from the highest folder with a 'read-only' box, and then
down
 the line.   All to no avail.   As usual the help is of no help for a
 problem.

 Anyone know what it might be and how to solve it?
 Help


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[wdvltalk] Re: [OT] Xp read only

2004-05-06 Thread Smile-Poet
Yes Bj, I'm the boss.I just checked in case I had been overtaken by a
cyberflu.   And I have run at least one full virus check (yesterday) since I
noticed this problem.

I'll have to dive into the MS site, I suppose, though it's a bit like the
Borneo jungle in there.

Joseph

 Are you logged-in as 'Administrator' when trying this?  In NT/2000/XP, not
all users have equal rights to change things
 
  From: Smile-Poet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2004/05/06 Thu AM 02:17:02 GMT
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [wdvltalk] [OT] Xp read only
 
  Weird is the alternate name for M$ I know.   But I am finding that I
cannot
  alter the read-only settings (which I think have changed without my
doing
  anything that I know of).   Practically all the folders show up with the
  greyed tick.   I click to remove the tick and 'apply' and 'OK'.   I open
up
  and the grey tick is back.
 
  I have worked from the highest folder with a 'read-only' box, and then
down
  the line.   All to no avail.   As usual the help is of no help for a
  problem.
 
  Anyone know what it might be and how to solve it?
  Help
 
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[wdvltalk] [OT] where is the web

2004-05-06 Thread Smile-Poet
Although I appear able to write to and receive from this list, I do not
appear to be able to browse.   I take it there is either a lot of traffic or
a major fault.

Anyone else with problems?

Joseph

(all browse attempts produce Cannot Find Server)


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[wdvltalk] Re: [OT] Xp read only

2004-05-06 Thread Smile-Poet

Here's an MS forum reply:

'''You can't remove the read only attribute from XP folders but you can
remove the attribute from the files within.  Change the attribute on the
files and then upload the files.
-- Michael Solomon MS-MVP   Windows Shell/User'''

Which puzzles me, but then this is MS.

Joseph

(btw  I have just caught up with IE updates and browsing is OK)



 Yes Bj, I'm the boss.I just checked in case I had been overtaken by a
 cyberflu.   And I have run at least one full virus check (yesterday) since
I
 noticed this problem.

 I'll have to dive into the MS site, I suppose, though it's a bit like the
 Borneo jungle in there.

 Joseph

  Are you logged-in as 'Administrator' when trying this?  In NT/2000/XP,
not
 all users have equal rights to change things
  
   From: Smile-Poet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: 2004/05/06 Thu AM 02:17:02 GMT
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [wdvltalk] [OT] Xp read only
  
   Weird is the alternate name for M$ I know.   But I am finding that I
 cannot
   alter the read-only settings (which I think have changed without my
 doing
   anything that I know of).   Practically all the folders show up with
the
   greyed tick.   I click to remove the tick and 'apply' and 'OK'.   I
open
 up
   and the grey tick is back.
  
   I have worked from the highest folder with a 'read-only' box, and then
 down
   the line.   All to no avail.   As usual the help is of no help for a
   problem.
  
   Anyone know what it might be and how to solve it?
   Help
  
   Joseph


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[wdvltalk] Re: [OT] Xp read only

2004-05-06 Thread Smile-Poet
I got to this article
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
which describes everything except what to do if you don't have the check
boxes.   The only thing I can think of is that I have not set passwords or
anything;  but that should leave everything open, surely, rather than make
access and control difficult??

Joseph

 Yes Bj, I'm the boss.I just checked in case I had been overtaken by a
 cyberflu.   And I have run at least one full virus check (yesterday) since
I
 noticed this problem.

 I'll have to dive into the MS site, I suppose, though it's a bit like the
 Borneo jungle in there.

 Joseph

  Are you logged-in as 'Administrator' when trying this?  In NT/2000/XP,
not
 all users have equal rights to change things
  
   From: Smile-Poet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: 2004/05/06 Thu AM 02:17:02 GMT
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [wdvltalk] [OT] Xp read only
  
   Weird is the alternate name for M$ I know.   But I am finding that I
 cannot
   alter the read-only settings (which I think have changed without my
 doing
   anything that I know of).   Practically all the folders show up with
the
   greyed tick.   I click to remove the tick and 'apply' and 'OK'.   I
open
 up
   and the grey tick is back.
  
   I have worked from the highest folder with a 'read-only' box, and then
 down
   the line.   All to no avail.   As usual the help is of no help for a
   problem.
  
   Anyone know what it might be and how to solve it?
   Help
  
   Joseph


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[wdvltalk] RE: [OT] Xp read only

2004-05-06 Thread Smile-Poet
Cheryl,


 Now things are getting really weird. I had a nice longish post in here
about
 XP Home and the read only setting that is so worrying Joseph and I am not
 even in table mode but using the keyboard so I don't know how it could
have
 gotten wiped.


Summer is icummen in and the gremlins are on the march!

 With XP Home as long as you are logged in with an account that has
 sufficient privileges for what you are trying to do it really doesn't
matter
 if the read only attribute is checked in the folder/file permissions. The
 knowledge base article you referred to is the first time I've seen an even
 remotely logical explanation.

I have two problems - one that does and one that may - relate to this.   I
sometimes get an otherwise unaccountable refusal to change a file, and that
keeps going through a progam session.   Simple enough to deal with, but
intesely iritating.

The other may be preventing writing to databases on the local server.   It
occurs to me that this may be the latest problem I have with the script I am
working on.   Though the table files all have 'read-only' clear, the folder
does not.

In that 'read-only' box I get clear, black tick or grey tick.   I have never
seen the grey tick in these boxes before, and still have no idea what it
means, unless it has to do with permissions.As I have access to the
'administrator' area I should not be getting any limitations on what to do,
surely.

And I don't have 'use simple file sharing', but that may be because the OS
has not been told of any sharing going on.

Joseph


 I'd pretty much not worry about it if you aren't giving remote access to
 your files. Since I don't think you are on a home network sharing with
 others it is pretty much immaterial whether or not it is checked.

 The only time having removing check from use simple file sharing was
 necessary had to do with database write permissions for the IIS (web
server)
 user to do updates through web forms. Since you are using XP Home and
don't
 have IIS that shouldn't effect you at all.


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 Certified Professional Web Developer
 MS-MVP-FrontPage
 www.wiserways.com
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[wdvltalk] Re: [OT] where is the web

2004-05-06 Thread Smile-Poet
David,

It was all very strange.   But I had been naughty about updating M$'s creaky
new whizz-bang collaXpe OS.   And after putting all that on and restarting
it was all hunky-dorey.

I am holding on to your advice for the day when I am not at fault (may that
day come, and soon)!

Joseph

On Thursday 06 May 2004 12:11, Smile-Poet wrote:
 Although I appear able to write to and receive from this list, I do
 not appear to be able to browse. I take it there is either a lot of
 traffic or a major fault.

 Anyone else with problems?

No problems here.  Might be your browser playing up, or more likely your
DNS.

Drop to a command line (for Windoze, click Start, click Run, then type
'command' (or 'cmd' for 2000/XP), then press enter.

Type:
ping www.google.com
(try a couple of others if you want).

If it says something similar to 'PING www.google.akadns.net
(66.102.11.99)', then shows packets being received, your DNS is
working.

Try going directly to:

http://212.13.209.76/

Also, being Windoze, have you tried rebooting?


Cheers

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[wdvltalk] Re: Graphic problem

2004-04-29 Thread Smile-Poet
Riva,

I don't do much graphics these days, but it may depend on what program your
friend is using.   Gifs have been around a long time but jpgs, as I recall,
were less widely used (and pngs are even more select!).   The base standard
for almost any graphics program is, I think, bmp.

It is also possible that your friend has some setting that blocks jpgs.
Or even, though that would be rare these days, that the file is too large
for the program.

HTH

Joseph

 Hi all,

 I have a problem with a graphic.  A friend of mine got a photograph of
 someone as an .eps file.  She couldn't open it so she sent it to me and I
 opened it in Photoshop and saved it as a .jpg.  I sent it back to her and
 she can't open it.  She keeps getting a blank with a red X in the
 corner.  Any idea why this is happening and what to do about it?

 TIA,
 Riva


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[wdvltalk] Re: Graphic problem

2004-04-29 Thread Smile-Poet

Her best bet, then, is to get the free Irfan
http://www.irfanview.com/
which does eps as well!

Joseph

 Hi Joseph,

 Thank you for the reply.  She told me that she is using Freelance
 Graphics.  She also said something about Adobe Illustrator.  Any other
 ideas?

 :-)
 Riva

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  Riva,
 
  I don't do much graphics these days, but it may depend on what program
 your friend is using.   Gifs have been around a long time but jpgs, as I
  recall, were less widely used (and pngs are even more select!).   The
 base standard for almost any graphics program is, I think, bmp.
  It is also possible that your friend has some setting that blocks jpgs.
 Or even, though that would be rare these days, that the file is too
  large for the program.
 
  HTH
 
  Joseph


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[wdvltalk] Re: SCR: http://www.losbarreiro.com.ar

2004-04-27 Thread Smile-Poet
Gabriel,

I like the look;  very suited to its purpose.   You have good advice from
others.   Your target market probably goes for a more involved look.

The only problem otherwise is that is was a bit slow downloading on my 56k
modem.   As you describe it most Argentinians will be using them - or even
something slower!

Joseph

 Hi Gabriel,

 Festive and spanish looking =) I would like to see the entire design
 centered, however.  At 1024x768 it's all left aligned and you have a large
 empty space on the right side.

 Deb


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 Here's the URL: http://www.losbarreiro.com.ar
 
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[wdvltalk] Re: errors setting

2004-04-26 Thread Smile-Poet
Mark,

Thanks very much.   It is interesting that most of the complaints in the
forum on this are that errors are not showing!

Anyhow, to further my embarrassment, in following your advice I discovered I
had set errors_reporting to 8 in the index.php file - and I can't remember
when or
why

But the thing I now wonder is why the page - with table set in percentages -
has decided to stretch to need scrolling both horizontally and vertically

Joseph

  In php.ini in the Apache folder I have set
 
  - display_errors = Off
  - log_errors = On
  - error_reporting = Off
 
  but I am still getting 'notice' errors which distort the layout and
 don't
  say anything very useful (now!).

 If it's PHP errors, just add this snippet at the top of your code:

 error_reporting(0);

 That will turn them off per script, there's more here:

 http://ca.php.net/manual/en/function.error-reporting.php

 cheers,

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[wdvltalk] session_start()

2004-04-26 Thread Smile-Poet
Why is this

? php
session_start();

at the beginning go my sessions.php file (which sets access functions),
being given this thumbs down

 parse error, unexpected T_STRING

These are cut and paste, and I have been having this turn up for a while
now.   I can't think where to start the search for this problem.

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[wdvltalk] Re: session_start() - solved

2004-04-26 Thread Smile-Poet
Finally it dawned - there was a space between ? and php.

If you noticed my problem in another mail about overwide page causing
scrolling;  that was a width set at 1650 instead of 165.Pity my first
correction turned out to be 1505!!!

I need a holiday.

Joseph

 Why is this

 ? php
 session_start();

 at the beginning go my sessions.php file (which sets access functions),
 being given this thumbs down

  parse error, unexpected T_STRING

 These are cut and paste, and I have been having this turn up for a while
 now.   I can't think where to start the search for this problem.

 Joseph


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[wdvltalk] nice colours

2004-04-25 Thread Smile-Poet
I came across this while searching for something or other, and I though t it
a nice combination of greens

http://www.oppl.ru/kw/1080429300.shtml

Joseph


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[wdvltalk] Re: nice colours

2004-04-25 Thread Smile-Poet
Well Rudy, its' very clean and green  --  and the greens work well together;
the links green is a good idea.   But I think you should warn surfers that
if they click for your articles you're sending them off to another site -
amd one that needs a membershiip at that!!

What did strike me on the other site was that the whole screen is green,
which normally would be unlikely to work.

Well, back to the chaos of this php script..

Joseph


  ... a nice combination of greens

 *my* greens are a lot nicer, eh

 http://r937.com/

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[wdvltalk] Re: nice colours

2004-04-25 Thread Smile-Poet



  I came across this while searching for something or other

 and what a fine collection of cookies it has on offer, 


Critics, critics, the world is full of critics.   :-(   I did realise that
the site linked to undesireable areas, but I have nothing that alerts me to
cookies.   Time to go to bed, I think.

Joseph


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[wdvltalk] Re: css not acting

2004-04-23 Thread Smile-Poet

Then here is  a conundrum for you (in the plural).   The css would not work
correctly in td, but does so in font.   Since I do this only now and
again I am probably missing something, and I will learn more.   But is there
perhaps an imediate reason for this problem?

Also. alas, in triumphing I set updisaster!:-/  ;~(   I changed
something without saving a copy first, and I have a fresh, major, undefined,
and blanks instead of content!!!.

It must wait a couple of days.   In fact I might put what I have in another
folder, and start right from the beginning again to see if I now understand
enought to get it right as I go.   Is that a good idea?

Joseph

Cheryl wrote:
When I first started reading your post I was thinking my husband had
been too generous with the scotch. A font tag in a post from you,
fortunately I continued to read and as the rest of the message scrolled
up my faith was restored. ;-}

Tim:
I gotta admit, I was thinking the same thing.  [rudy?!? Using font???
LOL]  It got better.

FWIW, putting the style in the TD tag works well in Netcape 4 browsers
(one of the few things that does work for tables).  It's a clean way of
using the same CSS for NN4 and most other browsers rather than having to
specify an NN4-only stylesheet.

Tim



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[wdvltalk] Re: SCR - www.foulston.com

2004-04-23 Thread Smile-Poet
Tim,

That's a nice clean look and downloaded fast enough at the start, and at
least kept adding bits as time went on;  56k, Xp, IE6.   I am surprised that
the blues seem to work as I would normally think the left column colour too
deep.

I like the 3D effect on the top line.   And - I have a crowded browser -
there was minimal scrolling on just one page (I think history), otherwise
none..

The one thing that doesn't work for me is the Home graphic.   It looks like
something that would make a good decoration on a large wall, but at this
size is a jumble.   I have no suggestion since it depends what is wanted,
but I don't know what it is saying.

HTH

Joseph
It's been awhile since I've asked for a review, and I just finished
putting out a somewhat new look (dropped the top red banner), so I
thought I'd have you guys hit it in various browsers and give me your
critiques.  They wanted news and recent publications moved to the
front page, so I've dropped the old splash page (used to be a big map of
Kansas) and incorporated their wants, along with cleaning up the left
nav a bit and optimizing images.  Total download for the front page is
now 70k versus the old 207k, so I feel like some progress has been made.

All pages validate to HTML 4.01 Transitional.  Unfortunately I am
required to support Netscape 4 (I test with NN4.07 and NN4.73), so table
layout is pretty much required (please, no flames about that...).  At
this point I'm testing NN4 - NN7, IE5 - IE6, FireFox, Mozilla 1.4, and
Opera 5 - Opera 7.12 on a Windows platform.  If any of you are running
other browsers and notice broken stuff I'd appreciate a screenshot and
guesses at what's wrong...the word mac is anathema around here for
some reason (we don't have a single one in about 250 computers).
Usability suggestions also happily accepted.

The left nav is done with mouseover images (the only way I can do it for
NN4, and yes, they want mouseovers), so the first page load takes a hard
hit but afterwards the menu images are cached and subsequent pages
should be faster.  I've tried to do everything else with CSS but have
yet to move towards semantic markup (I work on a lot of internal stuff
too, so everything gets improved slowly).

TIA,

Tim



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[wdvltalk] Re: css not acting

2004-04-23 Thread Smile-Poet
OK Andrew, here it is - I think.   This is sessions.php.   Errors on other
files complain on an undefined _SESSION.With this the content in the
main area does not come up.   It was messing with this file that caused the
problem.

Previous errors were about login and admin_access, but the script more or
less worked, and it was a matter either of seeing if the variables should be
set, or just changing error reporting (which I thought I had already done!).

There's a lot of gubbins with things I have tried.   Note -- one or two
lines have turned and look as though they're not commented, but all that
should be are.

? php
/* set the session name to WebsiteID */

//$previous_name = session_name(WebsiteID);

//echo The previous session name was $previous_namep;

session_start();
session_name('MyPHPSite');
header(Cache-control: private); //fix for IE
// Use $HTTP_SESSION_VARS with PHP 4.0.6 or less

function login_check(){
 if($_SESSION['login'] != TRUE){
  myheader(Login Required);
 include $_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'].
'/html/forms/login_form.html';
//  include_once($_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'].
   //   '/html/forms/login_form.html');
   footer();
   exit();
 }
}

//  function admin_check(){
  // if($_SESSION['admin_access']){
  //myheader(Access Denied!);
   //  echo CENTERThis area is restricted .
//to website administrators!;
 // }
 function admin_check() {
 //  if (isset($_SESSION['admin_access']))
  if ($_SESSION['admin_access'] == '1')
   return true;
 return false;

  footer();
  exit();


}
 ?





 Css behaves slightly differently in tables. Special set of sub rules.

 Post your code for the disaster. It's very possible you've forgotten to
 close a } or a  somewhere that causes the blank. A url even to a blank
page
 would do it since we could look at the source.

 drew

 -Original Message-
 From: Smile-Poet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 1:27 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: css not acting


 Then here is  a conundrum for you (in the plural).   The css would not
work
 correctly in td, but does so in font.   Since I do this only now and
 again I am probably missing something, and I will learn more.   But is
there
 perhaps an imediate reason for this problem?

 Also. alas, in triumphing I set updisaster!:-/  ;~(   I changed
 something without saving a copy first, and I have a fresh, major,
undefined,
 and blanks instead of content!!!.

 It must wait a couple of days.   In fact I might put what I have in
another
 folder, and start right from the beginning again to see if I now
understand
 enought to get it right as I go.   Is that a good idea?

 Joseph

 Cheryl wrote:
 When I first started reading your post I was thinking my husband had
 been too generous with the scotch. A font tag in a post from you,
 fortunately I continued to read and as the rest of the message scrolled
 up my faith was restored. ;-}

 Tim:
 I gotta admit, I was thinking the same thing.  [rudy?!? Using font???
 LOL]  It got better.

 FWIW, putting the style in the TD tag works well in Netcape 4 browsers
 (one of the few things that does work for tables).  It's a clean way of
 using the same CSS for NN4 and most other browsers rather than having to
 specify an NN4-only stylesheet.

 Tim




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[wdvltalk] Re: css not acting

2004-04-23 Thread Smile-Poet
Cheryl,

It's a local machine activity, so I can't, unfortunately.   Now that I am
well on the way to producing a look that I like I am trying to make sure the
script (those parts I will use as the basis of the site) work well, and that
I understand enough to develop it.   Then I will go on the host server and
build it bit by bit.

I am looking at three, maybe four, main sections with memberships to at
least two, plus fora of some sort.   I have a very ambitious idea to offer a
'build your own book' from a database of poems, jokes and so on, and the
idea gets more persistent.   The other areas will be of matters I know
something of which relate vaguely.   My puzzzle at the moment is to find the
central theme!

I am also keen to develop Directories;   I have had a family friendly humour
one for a long time, and with this machine have the power to work on them.

Pity there are only 30 hours in the day.

Joseph

 When you can send a url so we can see what else might be affecting the
 display.


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 -Original Message-
 From: Smile-Poet


 Then here is  a conundrum for you (in the plural).   The css would not
work
 correctly in td, but does so in font.   Since I do this only now and
 again I am probably missing something, and I will learn more.   But is
there
 perhaps an imediate reason for this problem?

 Also. alas, in triumphing I set updisaster!:-/  ;~(   I changed
 something without saving a copy first, and I have a fresh, major,
undefined,
 and blanks instead of content!!!.

 It must wait a couple of days.   In fact I might put what I have in
another
 folder, and start right from the beginning again to see if I now
understand
 enought to get it right as I go.   Is that a good idea?



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[wdvltalk] Re: SCR: http://www.turtle.ie/test/index.htm

2004-04-22 Thread Smile-Poet
Jac,

Overall an attractive and clear look, fast initial load.   But a bit of a
broken look because of the boxes down both sides.   This may be because the
blue bg doesn't work (and that is even if it is the same as the lighter part
of the top links).   Proabably too much blue area at the sides;   somehow it
fights.

The bottom is nice and clean and bright, but may need a closing line (thin
blue ;-)).  The turtle thumbs are amazingly clear and good pics;  might they
be better higher up?

As I'm looking I am wondering if the blue boxes at the side should be
reversed - the top bit in blue bg and the larger part of each link in white?

And. 'NEWS  EVENTS' catches the eye, but looks wrong;  why not do
it a bit larger and in the 'IRISH SEA colour? Body type is a bit small,
but readable because of the leading (alright, alright, so it's a print
term!).

Joseph

 Hi Guys,
 Need some opinions please... http://www.turtle.ie/test/index.htm
 Not too sure about all the blue :o)

 Only the homepage is available  there is still some work to be done to
 that.

 TIA
 jac.


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[wdvltalk] testing a site

2004-04-22 Thread Smile-Poet
The step to building the site I am planning is not exactly around the
corner!   But it is time for me to think about the best way to test the new
ideas out.

Is it best to do this through a sub folder on the existing site?   Is it
possible to hire space on a host before having the domain available?   Is
there some free way to go through the build and test stage?

Or am I best off to buy a new domain and hire space?   If I do the last what
would be the best way to keep the traffic that the old domain has?

Joseph


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[wdvltalk] Re: SCR: http://www.stewartandcompany.net

2004-04-20 Thread Smile-Poet
Will,

It looks nice, but for me - and I may not be representative of your market -
it has problems.Plenty of links and easy to understand.

For me it scrolls a little.   But the thing that hits me strongly is the
tiny type AND as it is in a rather subtle colour it is difficult to read..
You do allow the viewer to alter it so that is good, but now the scrolling
is about half page.

And now a word from your sub-editor(who has had to go and do other things.
Hope this helps):

home page:
-Who is Stewart and Company this hits the singular/plural trap.
better 'Who we are'   or 'About Stewart and Company'

-You name it, we have designed it. Our business graphic design expertise
includes first sentence is too colloquial and claims an awful lot, and
the start to the second is very wordy.   Why not something like 'Among our
wide range of successful designs are...'

-The West Virginia Family Foundation is a active  'an active'

aboutsandc.php

--Stewart and Company is a Christian owned, professional design studio
that specializes in  awkward and  hits that singular/plural problem
again.   Why not something like 'Our emphasis is Christian and we specialize
in...'

We have never had an unsatisfied customer walk away with a poor design.
  Not a good way of saying it!   How about something like: 'We work till we
achieve (or: 'Our aim is...') your complete satisfaction.'

printdesign page:
-From little business cards to huge highway road signs, we have faced
many scenarios and many print dimensions.   semi-colon or dash would be
better than comma.

--However, we are more than happy to recommend a few companies that have
stood out over the years as we have used them.change to:  We are
more than happy to recommend companies that we have used successfully.

-Here is a short list of what we have designed in the past: leave
out 'in the past' (unless you have designed some in the future ;-))

Writing us in no way obligates you to use our services. It doesn't hurt
to ask. reverse sentences;  add 'to' after 'writing'
Joseph


 Hello everyone,

 I would appreciate it if you would take the time to check out my new
 site design:

 http://www.stewartandcompany.net

 I have put a lot of energy into making it as user-friendly as possible
 with redundant links and putting things exactly where they should be.
 I welcome your comments.

 The text is 98% finished...I'm still tweaking it.  If you english gurus
 feel like correcting any part, please feel free.

 Fire away!

 Thanks so much,

 Will Stewart


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[wdvltalk] mysql_fetch_array

2004-04-20 Thread Smile-Poet
I have this line

while($row = mysql_fetch_array($sql)){

which gets the error

Warning: mysql_fetch_array(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result
resource

And the manual  has examples    like this mysql_fetch_array($result,
MYSQL_ASSOC)

As it is a 'warning' I assume it needs solving.   Is my line wrongly
written, is the mysql version unable to cope with it or might the php (4)
not be full.   Or will it come out in the wash when the whole cart script is
fully tested?

Joseph

Or, I suppose, any of the above?


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[wdvltalk] Re: SCR: http://www.stewartandcompany.net

2004-04-20 Thread Smile-Poet
Scott,

You are right, and what you suggest is an improvement (just repeating to
myself 'How did you miss the lack of verb?  Huh?')

But now Will 'scenarios' and 'dimensions' look awkward.   How about From
business cards to Highway (here it would be 'road') signs we know print and
design;  and we have many examples to show you.

The urgency of the present tense verb works well, though you probably need
to tweak the suggestion above to get exactly what you want.

Joseph

  printdesign page:
  -From little business cards to huge highway road signs, we have
faced
  many scenarios and many print dimensions.   semi-colon or dash would be
  better than comma.

 Disagree. From little business cards to huge highway road signs is not
an
 independent clause (where's the verb?), therefore a semi-colon is
 inappropriate. In fact, the comma used is perfectly correct. I think that
I
 would reverse the structure, though, to have

  We have faced many scenarios and many print dimensions, from little
 business cards to huge highway road signs.

 Personally, I think I would prefer experience with or experience in
over
 faced, thus

  We have experience in many scenarios and many print dimensions, from
 little business cards to huge highway road signs.

 Cheers,
 Scott

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[wdvltalk] Re: mysql_fetch_array

2004-04-20 Thread Smile-Poet
Howard,

I am indebted to you.   In fact your description fits the code as is, but
that led me to look closer and I found a full stop causing a full stop
-)  -  which led to the remaining error - a letter missing from a file
name!!

Joseph

 This warning means you have an error in your result set, which is
 usually caused by an error in your SQL statement.

  From the names of your variables, it looks like you are trying to get
 an array out of your SQL statement and not the result set.

 You should be doing something like this:

 $result = mysql_query($sql, $db);
 if (!$result) echo mysql_error();
 else
 {
  while ($row = mysql_fetch_array($result))
  {
  // stuff
  }
 }

 Smile-Poet wrote:

  I have this line
 
  while($row = mysql_fetch_array($sql)){
 
  which gets the error
 
  Warning: mysql_fetch_array(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL
result
  resource

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[wdvltalk] RE: php include oddity in foreach statement

2004-04-19 Thread Smile-Poet
Jon,

120 apostrophes and deletions later I can confirm that that wasn't it!

Would you believe it moved on when I took the quotes away from DOCUMENT ROOT
?And wants double quotes round 'echo' strings

And I have had to take more quotes away!   But now I am getting this, and I
can't remember how I solved this on other files.

unexpected $end in c:\easyphp1-7\www\books.php on line 118

the closing '?' is line 117

Joseph

 Joseph,

  This is the foreach:
   foreach ($xml_tree[PRODUCTINFO][0][DETAILS] AS $product) {
 
  Followed by a set of lines which are variations on this cut and paste
  $product_manufacturer = $product[MANUFACTURER][0][VALUE];

 Try sticking quotes round the array indices (the bits in square brackets):

 foreach ($xml_tree['PRODUCTINFO'][0]['DETAILS'] as $product) {

 You may not need then on the middle one if it's only ever numeric.

 It's also worth checking your array is being filled correctly before the
 foreach() - a good test is to use print_r, like this:

 echo pre;
 print_r ($xml_tree);
 echo /pre;

 HTH,
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[wdvltalk] RE: php include oddity in foreach statement

2004-04-19 Thread Smile-Poet
Jon,

That is really helpful;  some of it I had picked up, and it confirms it and
makes it orderly.   Funny, I was nervous about removing quotes from DOCUMENT
ROOT and its brethren, but increasingly I am thinking this is a code full of
little gremlins having fun!

I can't see a missing quote a first glance, but now I have to go out so I'll
come back to it later, and maybe spot straight away.   I wonder if all the
errors in this script mean it wasn't tested properly, of if it means that
each environment for php/mysql has its own little tricks?

Joseph

 Joseph,

  And I have had to take more quotes away!

 PHP's quote handling is a bit strange and can take some getting to grips
 with :-)

 Strings inside double quotes are parsed, meaning you can do this sort of
 thing:

   // my pet is a cat
   $pet = cat;
   echo my pet is a $pet.;

 Strings inside single quotes aren't parsed, so you can do this:

   // my pet is a $pet
   $pet = cat;
   echo 'my pet is a $pet.';

 If you want to show the variable, you have to concatenate it:

   // my pet is a cat
   $pet = cat;
   echo 'my pet is a '. $pet;

 This extends to pretty much everything:

   // new
   // line
   echo new\nline;

   // new\nline
   echo 'new\nline';

 Single quotes are a *tiny* bit faster, but the big advantage of using them
 is that you don't end up with messy escape characters. For example:

   echo table width=\100%\ cellpadding=\0\ border=\0\;

 To stop the PHP interpreter thinking your echo statement ends at any of
the
 quotes in the HTML, you have to escape them with the backslash.

 If you use single quotes you sidestep this neatly:

   echo 'table width=100% cellpadding=0 border=0';

 When you're accessing arrays you can use either, but again single quotes
 will be slightly faster:

   // either of these will work
   $foo = $bar[baz];
   $foo = $bar['baz'];

 Just to through a spanner in the works, there are some constants that will
 work in arrays without any quotes - they're easy to spot though, as
they're
 usually in capitals (like DOCUMENT_ROOT).

  unexpected $end in c:\easyphp1-7\www\books.php on line 118
  the closing '?' is line 117

 You're probably missing a semicolon somewhere :-)

 Cheers
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[wdvltalk] RE: php include oddity in foreach statement

2004-04-19 Thread Smile-Poet
Jon,

Just to update.   It was a missing single quote at the end of an echo line.
Now I get the error appropriate to the fact that the script can't access
Amazon, which is as it should be.

Cleary there is some difference, too, inside a foreach;  until these
variants are clear it makes fro a very furrowed brow.   Still, I am at least
getting close to the point I wanted to be at two months ago...

Thanks for the help.

Joseph


 Jon,

 That is really helpful;  some of it I had picked up, and it confirms it
and
 makes it orderly.   Funny, I was nervous about removing quotes from
DOCUMENT
 ROOT and its brethren, but increasingly I am thinking this is a code full
of
 little gremlins having fun!

 I can't see a missing quote a first glance, but now I have to go out so
I'll
 come back to it later, and maybe spot straight away.   I wonder if all the
 errors in this script mean it wasn't tested properly, of if it means that
 each environment for php/mysql has its own little tricks?

 Joseph

  Joseph,
 
   And I have had to take more quotes away!
 
  PHP's quote handling is a bit strange and can take some getting to grips
  with :-)
 
  Strings inside double quotes are parsed, meaning you can do this sort of
  thing:
 
// my pet is a cat
$pet = cat;
echo my pet is a $pet.;
 
  Strings inside single quotes aren't parsed, so you can do this:
 
// my pet is a $pet
$pet = cat;
echo 'my pet is a $pet.';
 
  If you want to show the variable, you have to concatenate it:
 
// my pet is a cat
$pet = cat;
echo 'my pet is a '. $pet;
 
  This extends to pretty much everything:
 
// new
// line
echo new\nline;
 
// new\nline
echo 'new\nline';
 
  Single quotes are a *tiny* bit faster, but the big advantage of using
them
  is that you don't end up with messy escape characters. For example:
 
echo table width=\100%\ cellpadding=\0\ border=\0\;
 
  To stop the PHP interpreter thinking your echo statement ends at any of
 the
  quotes in the HTML, you have to escape them with the backslash.
 
  If you use single quotes you sidestep this neatly:
 
echo 'table width=100% cellpadding=0 border=0';
 
  When you're accessing arrays you can use either, but again single quotes
  will be slightly faster:
 
// either of these will work
$foo = $bar[baz];
$foo = $bar['baz'];
 
  Just to through a spanner in the works, there are some constants that
will
  work in arrays without any quotes - they're easy to spot though, as
 they're
  usually in capitals (like DOCUMENT_ROOT).
 
   unexpected $end in c:\easyphp1-7\www\books.php on line 118
   the closing '?' is line 117
 
  You're probably missing a semicolon somewhere :-)
 
  Cheers
  Jon


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[wdvltalk] RE: php include oddity in foreach statement

2004-04-19 Thread Smile-Poet
Stephen,

I'm using html-kit which is probably similar, using colour and bold to show
what is happening.   Of course it needs me to know what it is signifying,
which is beginning to happen!   But the quotes do not stand out, though
sometimes the part affected is visible by being the wrong colour.

But it is the old problem of when it is not there one needs to know it
should be!   I do seriously need to visit the optician;  there is just that
slight loss of definition, and I was set up with reading, monitor and other
glasses, but my eyes seem to change with some regularity - sometimes the
change is improvement!

Code, of course, needs a high definition.   ---   And that has made me
search to make the face larger;12pt is quite good.   Perhaps I'll spot
the typos more easily - and work out the script author's errors with less
aggro!

Code completion sound good, so I'll have a look.   Off to Google..

Joseph

--- Smile-Poet wrote: --- 

: Jon,
:
: That is really helpful;  some of it I had picked up, and it
: confirms it and makes it orderly.   Funny, I was nervous about
: removing quotes from DOCUMENT ROOT and its brethren, but
: increasingly I am thinking this is a code full of little gremlins
: having fun!
:
: I can't see a missing quote a first glance, but now I have to go
: out so I'll come back to it later, and maybe spot straight away.
: I wonder if all the errors in this script mean it wasn't tested
: properly, of if it means that each environment for php/mysql has
: its own little tricks?
:
: Joseph


Joe,
  re:

I can't see a missing quote a first glance

a good editor should pick up things like this with syntax
highlighting.  If you're looking for a good, free PHP editor for
windows, which does support syntax highlighting and code completion
just to name a couple, you might try phpEdit[1].  I've been using it
for a couple of months now and like it quite a lot and after spending
a few days getting it configured and tweaked, it does pretty much
everything I could ask for, all in a neat, free little package :)

My only gripe is that development doesn't seem to be incredibly
active. Not inactive, just not overly so.

hth,
Stephen
http://www.mechavox.com/

[1] http://phpedit.net/products/PHPEdit/

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[wdvltalk] Re: php classes trip

2004-04-16 Thread Smile-Poet
Dave,

Thanks for the answer.

I see the point and the manual is (fairly) clear.
But this is where I am at the moment
 include_once($_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'].'/classes/clsMetaContent.php' );

(Now I guessed I might not have converted $_SERVER correctly, but I am lost
!)

and it produces this:

 parse error, unexpected T_ENCAPSED_AND_WHITESPACE, expecting T_STRING or
T_VARIABLE or T_NUM_STRING

I have put it in the comon.php file, which is where clsMetaContent.php  is
called from, and that from layout.php.   I would have thought the repetition
problem was the same for the other pages that do work.   The include_once(),
as I have done it, gives all pages the parse error.

Joseph



On Thursday 15 April 2004 23:10, Smile-Poet wrote:
 Three appear to work as intended; so why should the fourth bring up
 this:

 Fatal error: Cannot redeclare class meta in
 c:\easyphp1-7\www\classes\clsMetaContent.php on line 5

 line 5 is merely '{' following line 4: Class meta.

 Where might the hitch be?

It sounds as though you're include()ing clsMetaContent.php twice.

You might want to try include_once() or require_once() instead of
include() or require().

Cheers

David P



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[wdvltalk] Re: php classes trip

2004-04-16 Thread Smile-Poet
Bj wroteSheesh.  What's the world coming to, when absolute
beginners with no
programming background are supposed to be figuring out classes.

I think it's called 'The Deep End Philosophy'.

This is the only one that is happy:
include_once($_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'] . '/classes/clsMetaContent.php');

but now it has switched tack to:
Fatal error: Cannot redeclare class email in
c:\easyphp1-7\www\classes\clsEmail.php on line 3

which isn't part of this operation at all!But, I have done
include_once() for that.   So that moves us to:

Fatal error: Cannot redeclare login_check() (previously declared in
c:\easyphp1-7\www\includes\session.php:14) in
c:\easyphp1-7\www\includes\session.php on line 13


and line 13 is the first line of this:

function login_check(){
   if($_SESSION['login'] != TRUE){
  myheader(Login Required);
include $_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'].
  '/html/forms/login_form.html';

changing the include to
  include_once($_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'].
  '/html/forms/login_form.html');

doesn't seem to clear it!
I would be pleased if there is an answer to this.

If there is none, or if the answer doesn't clear it up, it looks as though
the fault must lie in or near to the file(a form) called by this link.As
I am inching towards the intended outcome of this script (though there seem
a number of login and security issues to resolve) I get some confidence.

I can at least understand the headings in the manual!

Joseph

 I have found, also, that IE clutches its internet files like a crab holding
its prey;   I have to clear them continually.   Until I discovered it, it
was the cause of more than a few of the headaches!!!


  But this is where I am at the moment
   include_once($_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'].'/classes/clsMetaContent.php'
);

 Try either of:

 include_once($_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT']/classes/clsMetaContent.php);

 or

 include_once($_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'] . '/classes/clsMetaContent.php');

 In other words - either a string containing a var, $var/other text, or a
 string created by concatenating a var and a string value $var . '/other
 text' - but you've got quotes inside other quotes, the way you have it
now,
 which is some unexpected T_ENCAPSED_AND_WHITESPACE  instead of a T_STRING
or
 a T_VARIABLE  :o)

 Sheesh.  What's the world coming to, when absolute beginners with no
 programming background are supposed to be figuring out classes.

 Bj


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[wdvltalk] php classes trip

2004-04-15 Thread Smile-Poet
No, not a school outing..

A database is controlled through four links which enable entering,
modifying, deleting categories and articles.   Each of the four scripts call
the class 'meta' which writes the title and so on.

Three appear to work as intended;  so why should the fourth bring up this:

Fatal error: Cannot redeclare class meta in
c:\easyphp1-7\www\classes\clsMetaContent.php on line 5

line 5 is merely '{' following line 4:  Class meta.

Where might the hitch be?

Joseph


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[wdvltalk] Re: PHP book update

2004-04-12 Thread Smile-Poet
 Joseph, so how does this help you? We've all had years of experience
 fixing our own code and the code of others, and we are still learning. I
 wonder if it would have been best for you to have searched the various
 code respositories for an application, for example hotscripts.com. If I
 understand correctly, you don't really need to learn PHP, you just need
 an application that works for your particular project. The scripts
 online, versus those from a book, have the advantage of being tested
 online. If you limit yourself to recent releases there are fewer problems.

 Sheila

Sheila,

The answer is this is very interesting to me too.Your (all of you)
years of experience shine through, as I have been trying to say.   What you
are not seeing from my angle is the quality of the teaching that  this list
offers, and the depth of knowledge which is here.   Though there is some
truth in the idea that a script from a good source would probably meet my
needs, there are two caveats.

Or three.   First how would I recognise such a script?

Second, if I took such a script and used it would I have the faintest idea
how to deal with anything that went wrong?   And by that I mean even
understanding what the problem was.

Third, without any understanding of the code I would have no concept of its
possibilities, or the possibilities it opened up.   Nor of its limitations.

The web is changing in many ways all the time.   As with most digitally
based matters there is a rapid 'democratising' as it becomes easier and
easier to achieve various tasks.   Gates and Windows, for all the possible
criticisms, show this quite dramatically. The development of one more
accessible code after another underlines this too.   PHP makes for an easy
entry to coding - at least in comparison to the Cs and a few others that
strike me dumb.

While it has taken me much longer than I hoped, I have now a basic awareness
(I hesitate to say understanding) of how PHP is written and what kind of
thing it can do.   It is possible that fighting this book has made me do
this quicker than might have been the case!   I have just been looking at
another 'sign-up' code and see that it approaches it with different
variables as in '5 ways of doing anything in php'.

While I don't really want to write my own code, I do want to fit codes
together to achieve a plan or two that I have for my site;  and I have to
get the site going along those (hopefully, paying) lines before I will be in
a position to employ those who really know how to do all the expert things
so I can write poetry!

Meanwhile, if you don't mind me tagging along and tugging at your coat tails
from time to time, I am pleased to find myself in such sompany.   And I
still think there is a case for a joint book and site written by members of
this list (you didn't think I'd miss a chance to mention it, did you?).

Had I been allowed to do radar when I did National Service in the RAF (that
dates me!) I might well have diverted into electronics and be sporting a
list like the one Bj revealed.   But they put me in statistics and I never
looked forward.  ;-)

Joseph


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[wdvltalk] Re: PHP book update

2004-04-11 Thread Smile-Poet
I realise that  I am not going to convince those on the list who really do
know their MySQL/PHP from their 'embonpoint' to get to gether for a book
(apart from rudy).   But all the, very useful, pieces of information, like
Don's, really underlines my point.

'Kinda pricey' for example;  and the suggestions are of many different
offerings - all of which are very good, I am sure.   But O'Reilly is said to
be out of adate, and at the speed of php development, it very difficult to
keep hard copy up to date.   That is why I suggested something for web code
that is very web oriented.

That is a book, and a site for updating.   Please tell me that, even thought
I can't interest you, you think it an idea that could have mileage.

Joseph



 Sheila--
  If anyone knows of good PHP book, for beginners, please speak up. I get
  asked this question all the time. The O'Reilly book might be OK but it's
 [snip]

 The blokes at Sitepoint.com have a two-book set titled THE PHP ANTHOLOGY.
 Volume 1 is Foundations. Volume 2 is Applications.  Kinda pricey but good
 info.  The Visual Quickstart series has a couple of good ones on PHP but
 they're suffering from being based on older data like the O'Reilly book.
 That, and some of the forums on Internet.com, w3schools, and a few other
 places are moving me down the PHP road.

 Best regards,
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[wdvltalk] Re: PHP book update

2004-04-11 Thread Smile-Poet
I feel myself rolling like the easter egg - or some of them that are rolled
down hills - you didn't know?...

Rudy, my apologies for obscurity, far from intending to suggest any lack of
knowledge on your part, I was commenting that you were the only one to
express interest in my idea.

Sheila, I understand your situation;  tips on your site would be of value to
many of us.

I can only add to David's succint report that when any following that advice
have finished their tax returns they might also have time to write a
book

Ah, well, back to the poetry.

Joseph


 CRA (canada revenue agency) want me to submit a return for 2002
 
 maybe i should get on it, eh?

 I know this is off-topic, but you really need some management consulting
 advice here.  You are obviously too busy to perform some unproductive task
 like completing tax forms.  Eventually, the authorities will take action
 against you and you may finish up in prison.  In prison, you will have
lots
 of time on your hands, so you can do tax returns then.  Until then, don't
 bother.  QED.

 Regards,
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[wdvltalk] admin_check (php)

2004-04-08 Thread Smile-Poet
I appear now to have access as administrator but upon trying to insert,
modify, or whatever, am spat out again as one of the serfs.

It appears that the check for access rights is admin_check().   However I
cannot find this in the php manual.   Is admin_check an admin check, or what
should be used?

And would this have existed in an earlier version of php?  (ie how does it
come to be used?)

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[wdvltalk] Re: 7th try - thank you post - re : evil trolls and all that...

2004-04-07 Thread Smile-Poet
Elisa,

This came through to me an hour ago.Guess it just didn't retrace its
steps to you!

Joseph

 I guess my first sentence starting with Hello Dear Group really
 upset the machine.  (I've kept all of the error messages, just in
 case.)

 Let's try one more time!


 Hello dear group,

 I'd like to thank you all for your feedback and advice. I've learned a
 lot.

 For the moment, I guess I've decided to just step away from trying to
 help get rid of this sick freak.

 For some reason, a few new members decided that what I was doing was
 useless and to leave this situation alone.

 I can't quite figure this out - I'm quite stymied by this reaction
 from these new members, but well, I tried and that's what
 counts.

 You guys tried also and I really appreciate it, very much so.

 Thanks again,

 Elisa

 CDW
 CDW but this is a nightmare troll : Tao Shan
 CDW
 CDW
 CDW If we can't do anything legal about posting pictures of animal
torture, is
 CDW there a law against sending viruses?



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[wdvltalk] bouncy bouncy 2nd time

2004-04-07 Thread Smile-Poet
Gosh, I am having a busy time today.   I sent a bit from a header of a mail
I keep getting to ask::

Am I the only one repeatedly getting this bounce message?

Which was bounced back because I had used (in the cut and paste) I -- N -- 
T -- M (without dashes and spaces) and this was rejected because:

This header is usually only included by automated
email programs, such as
vacation programs

So now I know at last how to recognise this type of  irritaiting but
unimportant mail.Hope it helps others too.

Joseph



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[wdvltalk] Re: Re : bouncy/7th try

2004-04-07 Thread Smile-Poet

This one is definitely an auto response, so sit tight for a fortnight!

Joseph


 - Original Message - 
 From: Elisa Butler

  This was more than bizarre, I got bounced thrice from
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 When you post to WDVL, your message  gets sent to each email address on
the
 list.  By some bizarre logic of the list operators, if any of those email
 addresses has a problem the bounce message gets returned to you (who can
do
 nothing about it) rather than to a list administrator (who could remove
the
 bouncing address from the list).  You will get used to seeing these in
 response to postings every now and then, either when a list member's email
 address gets cancelled or their mailbox gets full or they go on holiday
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 leave an auto response message...


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[wdvltalk] RE: [PHP] problems with php.ini - HELP

2004-04-06 Thread Smile-Poet
Paul,

If that will help;   though I was just thinking that, if you can give me the
line number (and paste the line itself so I know to look at the right one) I
can send back what is in my php.ini.   This was set by the installation
program, and might at least give you pointers to solve the problem.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want to send off-line.

Joseph   --  or I could send my php.ini.   Whichever you prefer Paul.
 Joseph,
 You want me to send you my php.ini off-list?

 Paul

 | -Original Message-
 | From: Smile-Poet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 12:54 PM
 | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: [PHP] problems with php.ini - HELP
 |
 |
 | Paul,
 |
 | Would it be likely to help if I checked what the installation
 | put in my
 | php.ini (apache, MySQL, PHP as EasyPHP1-7);   you would have
 | to give me the
 | line number.
 |
 | Joseph
 |
 | - Original Message - 
 | From: Paul Larue [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 5:47 AM
 | Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: [PHP] problems with php.ini - HELP
 |
 |
 |  Still doesn't work. Thanks for the try!
 | 
 |  Anybody has a suggestion ?
 | 
 |  Thanks
 | 
 |  Paul
 | 
 |  | -Original Message-
 |  | From: Jon Haworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |  | Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:16 PM
 |  | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |  | Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: [PHP] problems with php.ini - HELP
 |  |
 |  |
 |  | Paul,
 |  |
 |  |  Nope, doesn't work. I need to state the whole
 |  | /inetpub/wwwroot/ path
 |  |  stuff to get it working... / only doesn't do it...
 |  |
 |  | If it's a Windows server, you'll need to specify a
 | Windows path. Try
 |  | something like this (adjusted for your system, obviously):
 |  |
 |  | include_path = C:\inetpub\wwwroot
 |  |
 |  | Cheers
 |  | Jon
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[wdvltalk] Re: PHP book update

2004-04-06 Thread Smile-Poet
drew,

That's an impressive list.   But are these for true beginners, or for people
with other coding skills?   I think php is so flexible, relatively easy, and
developing so fast that people will be going straight to it, rather than
adding it after the hard slog of learning and using serious coding.
(That's a compliment folks, and a touching of the forelock - if i still had
one - to the professionalism of this list.)

The web is still expanding very fast.   The nature of it encourages people
to dive in and get on with it.   Like me many will want to implement
practical projects rather than become php pupils per se.   That was the
attraction of the book I have been tripping up on.   That book also reveals
(through its failures) better ways to do it.

And many will not want to, or not be able to, attend classes.   (I've just
realised how hard I'm selling the idea.   It must be because I have
experienced how well you all teach)

Joseph



 -Original Message-
 From: Sheila Fenelon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 6:43 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: PHP book update

 Bj wrote:
 
  Joseph, you almost make me want to write a php book just for you,
however
 I
  am sure there are good ones out there.

 If anyone knows of good PHP book, for beginners, please speak up. I get
 asked this question all the time. The O'Reilly book might be OK but it's
 2 yrs old now and PHP has changed a lot in that time. That's another
 problem with publishing books on web technology, things change and
 traditional books go out of date quickly.

 Sheila
 --
--
 --

 Julie C Meloni, PHP fast  easy web development 2nd edition. Premier
 Press. Meeting BJ's requirements.

 Larry Ullman, PHP for the World Wide Web, Peachpit Press.

 Larry Ullman PHP Advanced for the World Wide Web, Peachpit Press. The
 companion volume for the first. Although I actually haven't gotten this
one
 yet.

 And Shelia's Eclectic Academy course is a solid, simple introduction.

 drew



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[wdvltalk] marketing group

2004-04-06 Thread Smile-Poet
Due to still being strung across two machines (carrying bits one-by-one is
slow work ;-)) I don't have to hand the address of the nascent marketing
group.

I thought this might be a good place to discuss my book idea if enough
people are interested.   Can anyone send me the email address for the group.

Many thanks

Joseph


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[wdvltalk] Re: another little php session puzzle

2004-04-05 Thread Smile-Poet
Bj,

A two-in-one:

never buy Version 1 of *anything*.

*now* he tells me!

 He is not trying to teach you - he is trying to show off how clever he is,
and unfortunately for him, simply demonstrating how clever he isn't :-/

Wise words Bj.

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 From: Smile-Poet

  if ($_SESSION['admin_access'] == true) {

 Insert before that line:

 if (!isset($_SESSION['admin_access'])) {
   echo Session variable 'admin_access'
   has not been initialised, so no point in
   continuing with the program.  Apparently
   the clever instructor has missed out the
   code where the user logs in, their details
   are looked up in the database and the
   session variable 'admin_access' is set to
   either 0 or 1 as appropriate.  Goodbye.;
   exit;
 }


And I'll give that a try. And it came up beautifully;   so the
'echo' works!

 I do admire your persistence, Joseph, honestly I do.

That's very kind.At least I know a bit more now about MySQL and PHP.
In fact, I rather think the plan he has used is quite good, and if the
missing file comes (which probably includes setting up the session) the
whole thing will work in a unified way.   So far as I can test bits and
pieces it does what he says.

As a one time sub-editor I imagine that he did not do the one thing that is
essential for such a book, which is to have someone work through a proof
copy to make sure everything is there, and that it all works.

Also I think he has been a whiz kid, but doesn't realise that at 28 he's
past the point of being forgiven his mistakes...   In searching for his
address I see he has been showing off his expertise for at least four years.
Have you come across Eric Rosebrock?

Well, better get a bit more done.

Joseph


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[wdvltalk] Re: PHP book update

2004-04-05 Thread Smile-Poet
Sheila,

I honestly think that the best people to write a php book are the experts of
wdvltalk.   I can test it for you, and, as you have seen, if there is
anything you have not made crystal clear I will not be able to make it work
;-)

In the course of my travails I realised how real the point you make about
quick-changing php.   I think it would be essential - and appropriate - for
a book about web coding to have an up-dating site.   Anyone using the book
must be online, so it is natural to offer a term membership for buying the
book.

Now if I can ever get Eric's script to work it would be perfect for such a
site 

I am serious, by the way.   Do the experts (*you know* who you are) want to
write a book?A collaboration would be good;  balance the strengths and
weaknesses.   Have expert editors checking the script...  perfect.

Joseph

 Bj wrote:
 
  Joseph, you almost make me want to write a php book just for you,
however I
  am sure there are good ones out there.

 If anyone knows of good PHP book, for beginners, please speak up. I get
 asked this question all the time. The O'Reilly book might be OK but it's
 2 yrs old now and PHP has changed a lot in that time. That's another
 problem with publishing books on web technology, things change and
 traditional books go out of date quickly.

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[wdvltalk] Re: [wdvltalk]update -- read this [not OT] Serious advice!!!

2004-04-05 Thread Smile-Poet
OK.AVG says no viruses.The message has now moved to 'deleted items'
and there is a message.

Aha!  froze OE again.Shut down the pc, reopened and got a message saying
the  mail (which says it has deducted money from my card for hosting) was
trying to download from here

ms-its:mhtml:file://C:\\MAIN.MHT!http://privatemailboxrentals.com/main1.chm:
:/main1.html

What can be done about this???

Joseph

(And I have emptied the deleted items folder)

 I have just received a mail with

 From:   243306 @ msn...

 Subject:  Receipt of Payment

 it is 2Kb.

 I went to delete it but is wouldn't move from the inbox and then appeared
to
 bring OE to a halt.   I had to restart to stop whatever it was up to.
The
 message window was blank.   It does not have an attachment.

 I have just updated and am going to set AVG to check everything, but this
 seems a nasty little thing.Take care.

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[wdvltalk] further Re: strange MySQL return

2004-04-04 Thread Smile-Poet
Sheila,

Yes, I've just read, 'enum' is not for 'number'(!) but is a string so the
quotes are needed.   Thanks for spotting it.   ---And YES it worked.

Joseph

 Smile-Poet wrote:
 
  I tried
  ...!= 1   --  which yielded nothing (though they are all 0)
  ...!= 0-- which yielded all six( ditto ditto).   So it is
just
  consistently wrong in the database or db manager (phpMyAdmin).I amit
I
  had thought '1' would grant privileges and '0' deny them;   you say it
is
  the other way round.   I have tried both, anyway.
 

 Here's  a quick thought. Is the admin_access field defined as integer or
 char. You want it to be int otherwise you need to code the WHERE clause
 with quotes: admin_access = '0'.

 Sheila


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[wdvltalk] Re: OT: IE Problems

2004-03-30 Thread Smile-Poet

Peter,

No, I don't have the problem, but you may have saved me from it!I have
an update disc from M$ for Xp;   now I am wondering if I should run it.I
know they have gone from being sloppy to being suspicious of everything.

But I have just changed an Outlook Express setting to let attachments
through;   I wonder if IE has some similar over-protective setting that can
be unticked?

Perhaps in custom settings under internet options - but I'm sure you've
checked that.

Joseph

 I'm using IE 6.0.

 Ever since I updated the patches for W2000 and anything else advised my
 Microsoft via their website a couple of weeks ago, I'm seeing constant
 problems of IE shutting down for no obvious reason and sending Error
reports.

 I've run Norton diagnostics and that says there is nothing wrong. It's
 infuriating when surfing for info to get four or five shutdowns and having
 to keep going back to find the site I was on.

 Anyone found the same problem?

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[wdvltalk] Re: Site problems or people problems??

2004-03-26 Thread Smile-Poet
Yup, comes up fine in the UK too.   I'll have vegetarian.

Joseph

 no problems on IE 5.5 ..
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[wdvltalk] sessions - 'undefined '

2004-03-25 Thread Smile-Poet
Having learnt a bit and solved a few problems (ahem!  typos, too) I find
myself stuck here  -  sort of superglobal superglue.

As part of a membership system there is the line
?php
if($_SESSION['login'] == true){

which is bringing this into the browser(IE6)
Notice: Undefined index: login in c:\easyphp1-7\www\boxes\member_box.php on
line 13

The book suggests the work around for IE is to set session_cache_limiter to
none in php.ini.   I found it already set to 'no cache', but changed it to
'private' since this  line:

header(Cache-control: private); //fix for IE

is put in the session.php file for this purpose.

Am I barking up the wrong tree or just wimpering incoherently in the corner?

Joseph


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[wdvltalk] Re: an input puzzle - html/php

2004-03-23 Thread Smile-Poet
 Smile-Poet wrote:
  In the book I am trying to 'learn and make' from this is an input line
from
  a sign up form.
 
  td  align=left valign=topinput id=last_name name=last_name
  type=text value=?=$_POST['last_name'];? //td
 

 I do the same thing. When the form is displayed initially, with a simple
 link to the script, there are no values in the $_POST array so
 $_POST['last_name]' is blank and the result is value=

 When someone fills in the form and posts it back to the script
 $_POST['last_name'] may have a value. The script should do some error
 checking for missing input (or whatever else it requires). If something
 is wrong then the form will be redisplayed but with the user's input for
 last_name and the other fields echoed. This is much better than the
 usual instructions to 'go back and complete the form'.

 Does that make sense?

 Sheila
 --

Sheila,

The problem is that this (the 'value=' ' entry) appears on the form:

?=$_POST['last_name'];?

and similar entries in the other input windows.   These do not clear and
have to be deleted when the requested detail is being inserted.

The script does what you describe and returns the form with a message
specifying where the fresh entry needs to be made.But can this be
achieved only with the little piece of script turning up on the form when
first called?   And having to be deleted?   In the book the fields are shown
blank, but I cannot see anything that I am not copying as instructed.

And, although the form code has this

input name=req type=hidden  id=req value=process 

and the script has this

switch ($_REQUEST['req']) {

I get an error message that 'req' is not defined.I mention it because it
seems possible the two problems are connected.

Joseph


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[wdvltalk] Re: an input puzzle - html/php

2004-03-23 Thread Smile-Poet
Bj wrote

...isn't getting processed by the Web server and therefore the php is
 being seen and displayed by the browser instead of being processed by
php

I am calling the  form directly (though through the server) so you have
sorted that for me  -- thank you.

And the $_REQUEST   --  I had wondered from what I had digested of the
manual on this if that might be so.And changing it to $_POST moves the
errors on a bit;  even  got ZA asking if Apache could send emails.

As you suggest I am wondering, not so much if it was tested, as if it was
rewritten rather than pasted into the book.   I have identified things like
'.' instead of'';' and things like this $_REQUEST which I haven't yet
confidence to challenge.

It is possible that it is an adaptation of a set of scripts he describes
creating for a phone directory site.   If he didn't then test it can be full
of errors of course.

Thanks Bj,

Joseph


 - Original Message - 
 From: Smile-Poet

  The problem is that this (the 'value=' ' entry) appears on the form:
 
  ?=$_POST['last_name'];?

 This means php isn't seeing the page before it's sent to the browser.

 I bet you are running this on your local PC.  And I bet you are
 double-clicking the shortcut to open it, or just putting the page address
 into the browser (file://C:/pages/mypage.htm style of thing), or smething
 instead of browsing http://localhost/mypage.htm, so that when it first
shows
 up it isn't getting processed by the Web server and therefore the php is
 being seen and displayed by the browser instead of being processed by php.

  And, although the form code has this
 
  input name=req type=hidden  id=req value=process 
 
  and the script has this
 
  switch ($_REQUEST['req']) {
 
  I get an error message that 'req' is not defined.

 Looks to me like a dumb mistake by the script author proving (s)he never
 tested it after writing it..  Should be $_POST['req'] - there is no
REQUEST
 set of variables in php.


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[wdvltalk] Re: an input puzzle - html/php

2004-03-23 Thread Smile-Poet
Sheila,

I am at the stage a bit like the nascent swimmer made to take his feet off
the bottom;  I've done that and I still can't swim!   Hope to do better with
this ;-).

First the form.   This will - I haven't got to it - be called by a php
script so the php should be read then.   If not 'I'll be back'.

I follow the principle  of the isset code, but don't yet grasp the code
itself.   I don't know how much of the script to show you, but here is the
first twenty or so lines.   I have already needed to set the top variables
and have now changed the $_REQUEST back for you to see::

?php
include $_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'].'/layout.php';
   //set some variables
$email_error = false;
$password_error = false;

switch ($_REQUEST['req']) {
  case process : // code to process signup input and place in database

 myheader(Become a member: step 2);

 //Validate all required fields were posted
 if(!$_POST['first_name'] ||
  !$_POST['last_name'] ||
   !$_POST['email_address'] ||
  !$_POST['email_address2'] ||
  !$_POST['username'] ||
  !$_POST['password'] ||
  !$_POST['password2'] ||
  !$_POST['bio']){

  $error = true;
  $errors = h4Form Input Errors:.
/h4\n\n;

if (!$_POST['first_name']) {
  $errors .= Missing first Name\n;
}
if (!$_POST['last_name']) {
   $errors .= Missing Last Name\n;
}

I also came across the point that use of $_REQUEST has security issues, but
imagine that is if it is overused rather than used where it is the best
option.

Joseph

 Bj wrote:
  - Original Message - 
  From: Smile-Poet
 
 
 The problem is that this (the 'value=' ' entry) appears on the form:
 
 ?=$_POST['last_name'];?
 
 
  This means php isn't seeing the page before it's sent to the browser.
 
  I bet you are running this on your local PC.  And I bet you are
  double-clicking the shortcut to open it, or just putting the page
address
  into the browser (file://C:/pages/mypage.htm style of thing), or
smething
  instead of browsing http://localhost/mypage.htm, so that when it first
shows
  up it isn't getting processed by the Web server and therefore the php is
  being seen and displayed by the browser instead of being processed by
php.
 

 The pages need to be .php not .htm in order to be processed by the PHP
 interpreter.

 
 And, although the form code has this
 
 input name=req type=hidden  id=req value=process 
 
 and the script has this
 
 switch ($_REQUEST['req']) {
 
 I get an error message that 'req' is not defined.
 
 
  Looks to me like a dumb mistake by the script author proving (s)he never
  tested it after writing it..  Should be $_POST['req'] - there is no
REQUEST
  set of variables in php.
 

 $_REQUEST does exist.

http://www.php.net/manual/en/reserved.variables.php#reserved.variables.request

 The script is complaining about $_REQUEST['req'] which does not exist
 the first time through unless you add it to the URL:

 http://localhost/mypage.php?req=somevalue

 That's not the best solution. Better would be to test if
 $_REQUEST['req'] exists and assign a value to a variable based on the
 result.

 if (isset($_REQUEST['req']) {
$myRequest = $_REQUEST['req'];
 } else {
$myRequest = 'somevalue';
 }

 Then change the switch variable

 switch ($myRequest) {

 Note that 'somevalue' needs to be the actual value needed to make the
 form display empty.

 I hope all this makes sense. It would be easier to explain with more of
 the script to look at.


 Sheila


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[wdvltalk] Re: an input puzzle - html/php

2004-03-23 Thread Smile-Poet
 Time to download a new .chm file I think
 Sorry Joseph


New or old it is still mostly Greek to me :-o.   My copy is the up to date
one and there certainly is a lot about changes.   If I understand rightly
the objective is to make this do the job any other script can do, but in
plainer English.   And the changes are going to come thick and fast.

I certainly do not think I would even have attempted anything more
difficult.   And I am trying to run (limp haltingly) before I can walk.   I
find your advice very helpful, and even if there is error the discussion of
it brings clarity.   As I am not at a class I find these discussions a
refreshing aid to learning.

And a proof that some at least of my fog may be forgiven.

Joseph


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[wdvltalk] Re: sendmail, qmail

2004-03-22 Thread Smile-Poet
Mark, Bj, Sheila,

Thank you all for bringing clarity to this one (though some mails, including
Sheila's, haven't landed here yet!   I think I have inferred the gist of the
discussion from the four mails I've read.).

I am going back into the php book/tutorial/website-scripts and knew I would
quickly hit the sendmail part of this (as part of a membership signup page)
and wondered how I might deal with it on this windows PC.   Last time it
threw up errors.

I have also plans for some complex mail sending and lists and was looking
for the best answer when I get to that (in about 2020 at the present rate of
progress :-( ).

It is a relief that the mail sending is not another thing that needs to be
learnt (I'll settle for whatever my host offers together with list
management somwhere) though sending from the local PC would give plenty of
control (stand up who said 'control freak').

Joseph

 Sheila commented:


  Whoa there Bj, I think you got some bad
  information somewhere.

 Sorry if it sounded like I said sendmail() no longer exists, as it is
indeed
 still a core function of Unix servers - and maybe php itself, as a
program,
 does call it on Unix servers to implement its mail() function - but to the
 php *programmer*, that much is invisible.  Only the server administrator
has
 to know how php actually works - the programmer just calls on mail() to
send
 messages.  And in fact with safe mode implemented, I know of no way for a
 php script to explicitly call sendmail.

   And, with a local set such as Apache/Mysql/php, can mails be sent
 without
   the need for a mail service which is normally the smtp gate.   I
realise
   they are capable of handling mail in volume and lists, but so far
can't
   quite grasp their role.In other words what do they do for mails
that
 I
   would send from my machine or from the website?

 What you're probably wondering is Do I have to put my script up on a Web
 host to send email from a php script, or can I send from a script running
on
 my local PC with apache/mysql/php?

 On a Windows PC (as opposed to a Windows server) you don't normally run a
 local SMTP server, although as Sheila points out many viruses include
their
 own, and use it to send out new infected emails, so obviously if you found
 and installed the right software it could be done.  But with the usual
 setup, if you were testing a script containing mail() on your local PC,
 you'd get an error because there would be no default SMTP server for
mail()
 to pass on the messages to.  If you installed Windows 2000 server edition
 you could have IIS, SMTP and all kindsa goodies, and send tons of mail
 direct from your very own PC.

 You might also be able to set things up so that php scripts running on
your
 local PC used your ISP's SMTP server to send out mail, not sure how, but
you
 might.  Maybe I'll have a look over on php.net and see if there is any
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[wdvltalk] an input puzzle - html/php

2004-03-22 Thread Smile-Poet
In the book I am trying to 'learn and make' from this is an input line from
a sign up form.

td  align=left valign=topinput id=last_name name=last_name
type=text value=?=$_POST['last_name'];? //td

As you can see the value is given some php code, but this appears in the
input window, which seems odd.Is there a reason for putting php code
there?   The author says this is for error checking purposes.   Is this
needed for error checks?

Or should the signee input simpy be picked up by the 'action= '
php script?

Or is there some other point I am missing, like a security value or a
complex check system?   I can't
see the practice in any other sign up script I've looked at.

Joseph
wondering why it is all uphill.


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[wdvltalk] coalesce commas

2004-03-19 Thread Smile-Poet
Rudy,

I have just applied 

SELECT cust_name, cust_address AS cust_address1, ( 
concat( coalesce( cust_city, '' ) 
, coalesce( cust_state, '' ) 
, coalesce( cust_zip, '' ) ) 
) AS cust_address2, 
cust_country AS cust_address3
FROM `customers`   

as you advised a few days ago

but it has produced this

ColumbusOH4-- without commas or spaces.

I am using MySQL.   Can you advse me further?

Joseph

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[wdvltalk] Re: OT: Eudora Problem

2004-03-17 Thread Smile-Poet
Deb,

You encourage me to give Eudora another try.   I do want to keep my website
addresses separate, and that worked well before (when it was working).   It
will be on a different machine too, so that might make a difference.

Joseph

 Hi,

 I didn't see the beginning of this thread so not positive what the whole
 issue is - but it sounds like you can't send mail.  Here is a possible
 fix.  If you are using your own SMTP setting - some ISP's will now allow
 this.  You could try resetting your SMTP to your ISP's SMTP.  YOu could
 also try contacting your ISP and see if there's something they changed or
 ask if they might investigate on their end. I'm experiencing extensive
 email problems right now (use Eudora) but I get error msgs so this info
 might be totally useless to you for your problem, however changing the
SMTP
 only takes a moment to try.

 Deb
 

 At 02:38 AM 3/17/2004, you wrote:
 Problem is - there isn't an error message!
 
 At 23:48 16/03/2004, you wrote:
 Eudora has a afine support site, Type in some of the error message or a
 description oi it, and youll goin to find the answer
 Id its paid for, you can email them.
 Al
 At 3/16/2004   04:18 PM, you wrote:
 Sorry Peter.   All I can do is tell you I abandoned Eudora a year or
two
 back because it stopped sending anything.   I still download  some
addresses
 into it, but not those I have much to reply to.  There were three
instances
 in use too;  they all stopped.   That was my second return to OE.
 
 Joseph
 
   For some reason my Eudora email has decided to only transmit some
  messages
   and not others. No obvious consistency - sent one test email to
  myself but
   not another!
 



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[wdvltalk] Re: OT: Eudora Problem-Joseph

2004-03-17 Thread Smile-Poet

Deb,

Absolutely no offence taken;  there is endless discussion on most of these
issues, and often being told or reminded of some simple point proves the
answer.   I have tried to give up OE many times, but its simplicity and
range and (alas) reliability keeps it in play.

I'll let you know what happens when I give Eudora another try.   I tried
Bloomba (which archives uniquely for a mail client) but it too proved
limited (in my hands anyway).

Joseph

 At 03:00 AM 3/17/2004, you wrote:
 Deb,
 
 You encourage me to give Eudora another try.   I do want to keep my
website
 addresses separate, and that worked well before (when it was working).
It
 will be on a different machine too, so that might make a difference.
 
 Joseph

 I understand, I don't want to give up Eudora either.  I was just talking
 w/a friend tonight who suggested I setup Outlook at least to test and see
 if Eudora might be the culprit - I told her that if I was on my deathbed
 and Outlook was the only email program on the face of the earth I would
 switch to using the phone rather than set up Outlook.  I know there are
 faithful loving Outlook users all over the world and I'm not trying to
 insult them as I know they are happy with it.  I just don't need to add
the
 virus magnet to my computer and that is my sole reasoning behind my
 decision.  I did try Netscape mail just to test out the theory it might be
 Eudora and I also installed a 2nd version of Eudora in another folder and
 tested that.  Both other email programs gave the same results - it's NOT
 Eudora causing my problem.

 Now, there may be people who do have problems w/Eudora and so my
 suggestions may have no merit and it could very well be Eudora in your
case
 or theirs, but I would not dump it unless it was the last resort.  I would
 also make sure there are no error messages anywhere, they pop up on the
 bottom of my Eudora screen.  Might try setting up a fake SMTP and try
 sending just to see if you get an error message which you
 should.  Example:  smtp.ee.com (I doubt there's a domain named
 e.com out there but you could check first).  That way you will see
an
 actual error msg if you've not already seen Eudora throw one and you will
 know what to look for.  I say this only because I'm thinking you might be
 very new to Eudora and not know where to look.  I don't mean to offend
your
 intelligence.

 Deb




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[wdvltalk] Re: Further to CONCAT

2004-03-16 Thread Smile-Poet
I am following the conversation  and it is helping greatly in expanding my
awareness;  I am sure others working through the php/mysql learning zone
would agree.

Thank you Rudy for the additional points on extracting addresses.   I didn't
make it clear then as the book had been hurled through the window at that
point   (not really, it's too cold at the moment to open the window).

Bj, A main reason for coming back on this point (and I'll do the same on
others, as they arise) is that there are quite a few who teach on the list.
I am finding all tutorials falling short of their stated aims;   I have no
access to advice other than this list.

For that reason my experience and feelings about ploughing through may be of
help in constructing courses and articles (I know Sheila is planning
something).   You are right about the table, and I already wondered why one
should use NULL values.   But this table was a 'given' and downloaded as a
basis for the SQL course book.

There is, too, a vast difference between someone learning these codes with
ASP or C++ or other coding experience and one - like me - who has managed
some html and css and just basic ssi.

One thing, for example, that is extremely depressing, is the advice (or only
option) time after time to refer to the manual.   Only now am I coming out
of the stage where the manuals are gobbledegook.   An experienced user, I am
sure, sees them as invaluable references - as I soon shall.

Because different SQLs are developed differently there are gulfs between the
syntax and keywords and functions that are totally confusing, and without
the kindness of you and Rudy and others I for one would have found the
inadequacy of the literature enough to stop me in my tracks.

When, worse, a 'comprehensive' tutorial using the same forms of coding
(mysql/php) throws up errors the frustration becomes a solid thing!   But
that is for a little later.   Once I have MySQL moderately understood I will
be better placed to get back to that.

Joseph


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[wdvltalk] Re: OT: Eudora Problem

2004-03-16 Thread Smile-Poet
Sorry Peter.   All I can do is tell you I abandoned Eudora a year or two
back because it stopped sending anything.   I still download  some addresses
into it, but not those I have much to reply to.  There were three instances
in use too;  they all stopped.   That was my second return to OE.

Joseph

 For some reason my Eudora email has decided to only transmit some messages
 and not others. No obvious consistency - sent one test email to myself but
 not another!

 It won't send some items with a small attachment but has sent a ten pager
 to someone! The unsent emails are in the Outbox with a red circle
 containing a cross.

 The option to Send Unsent Emails is greyed out!

 I saw a list of these symbols somewhere once and what they meant. Of
 course, now I need them I can't find them!! Anyone any clues please?

 Peter MacGregor



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[wdvltalk] now it's dates

2004-03-15 Thread Smile-Poet
Right - I have converted
WHERE datepart(yy, order_date) = 2001

(after much searching) to

to_days(2001-01-01)-to_days(order_date) =365.  (I've tried both = and =)

The query is executed successfully, but hte five entries it should catch are
not printed out.   Your advice is welcome.

Joseph


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[wdvltalk] Re: now it's dates

2004-03-15 Thread Smile-Poet
Rudy,

Here is the query

SELECT `order_date` FROM `orders` WHERE to_days('2001-01-01') -
to_days(`order_date`) = 365;

There are five entries in the column that fall in the year 2001;   the
tutorial offers DATEPART, to_number and to_date variations  (with their
various syntaxes) but all bring up errors in MySQL.   'to_days' was the only
thing I could find in the MySQL manual which seemed to deal with dates
within a time period.

And Rudy is right Howard, the quote marks don't solve it;  but thanks for
the advice.

Joseph

  to_days(2001-01-01)-to_days(order_date) =365.

 joseph, what are you trying to do?

 if you have order dates in 2001 or later, that expression will always be
 true, simply because to_days(2001-01-01) will be less than
 to_days(order_date) and so the result will be negative and therefore
always
 less than 365

  The query is executed successfully, but hte five entries it should
  catch are not printed out.   Your advice is welcome.

 five entries?

 can we see your query?


 rudy




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[wdvltalk] Re: now it's dates

2004-03-15 Thread Smile-Poet
I'm tiring   (all right, all right  -- I mean I'm getting tired!).   This
worked:

SELECT `order_date`
FROM `orders`
WHERE to_days( '2001-01-01' ) - to_days( `order_date` ) = 365

It needed both the quotes (thanks Howard) and the right operator =.I
progress...   as through treacle...   but I progress.   Thanks, too, Rudy
for keeping an eye on me.

Joseph
(pretty colours, aren't they?)


 In MySQL, date values need quotes around them.

 At 04:51 PM 3/15/2004, Smile-Poet wrote:
 Right - I have converted
 WHERE datepart(yy, order_date) = 2001
 
 (after much searching) to
 
 to_days(2001-01-01)-to_days(order_date) =365.  (I've tried both = and
=)

 try: to_days('2001-01-01')-to_days(order_date) =365


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[wdvltalk] Further to CONCAT

2004-03-15 Thread Smile-Poet
Further study finds that his works

SELECT CONCAT( `vend_city` , ',', `vend_state` , ',', `vend_zip` ) FROM
`vendors`
ORDER BY `vend_name`

(produces comma separated address.   But two rows are NULL because the ex-US
entries have null 'vend_state' fields.   Rudy's coalesce option was not
comma separated.So how does one pull addresses in printable form?)

But it has taken some finding!   In fact I bumped into it while looking for
something else.

Joseph


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[wdvltalk] Re: Simple Web Server?

2004-03-11 Thread Joseph, Smile-Poet
Janet,

I'm here for  a little while.   Is there something similar to 'php info' I could put 
in the browser to test for it?   I know it recognises the % % tags, but I know no 
more than that.

Josseph

 
 Thanks Joseph-
 
 Do you know if it supports ASP?
 
 Janet
 
 
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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 2:12 PM
 Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: Simple Web Server?
 
 
  Janet,
  
  I'm late into this, but Easyphp1-7 sets up Apache, mysql and php in
  one virtually unaided;   I've put it on Xp home and it seems to work
  as well as on W98.   I don't know if the form of Apache will serve
  what you want, but I'm sure it is worth a look.
  
  www.easyphp.org
  
  Joseph
  Chacha Joe
  For a site of laughs and a FREE ezine:
  www.smilepoetryweekly.com
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[wdvltalk] Re: Simple Web Server?

2004-03-11 Thread Joseph, Smile-Poet

Cheryl,

It comes up with

% response.write Hello World 

So I imagine that means it is not set up for asp.A bit of googling suggests it 
might not be easy to add asp to the Easy set up,  though there seems to be an 
apache/asp combination at

Apache::ASP
Apache::ASP provides an Active Server Pages port to the Apache Web Server with
Perl scripting only, and enables developing of dynamic web applications with ... 
Description: a perl-based version of Active Server Pages.
Category: Computers  Software  ...  Mod Perl  Development Tools
www.apache-asp.org/ - 14k - Cached - Similar pages 

How's that for Janet?

Joseph

 From: Cheryl D. Wise 
 
 You can always use the traditional:
 
 % response.write Hello World
 
 Save on a page with a .asp extension.
 
 
 Cheryl D. Wise
 Certified Professional Web Developer
 MS-MVP-FrontPage
 www.wiserways.com
 mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 713.353.0139 Office
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Joseph, Smile-Poet 
 
 I'm here for  a little while.   Is there something similar to 'php info' I
 could put in the browser to test for it?   I know it recognises the % %
 tags, but I know no more than that.
 
 
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[wdvltalk] Re: $_POST and access questions

2004-03-09 Thread Joseph, Smile Poet
Bj,

You lightened my mood.   Yes I have noticed that this tutorial has
some errors, and I did wonder how complex he'd made it.I found
another tutorial on phpfreaks.com, dealing with a similar project, and
substituted some of that.   It worked well till that tutorial left me
floundering -- I am trying to sort a problem to do with VALUES syntax,
and can't find the rules at this moment!!!

I suppose I am finding these surrogate code parents have feet of clay.

I think I have looked at most available tutorials and conclude I still
need simply written stuff which does it all for me until I can start
to recognise what it is doing.   I am using HTML-Kit and phpMyAdmin to
write and check, and IE6 as the browser.

I am relieved that you find the complex bit complex;  I feel slightly
less of an idiot.

 But hey, who needs tutorials when php and mySQL are so easy.  Why
not just
 find a real project and learn while you do it.

You mean it's *not* plug and play?

Seriously I couldn't get my head round the tutorials and had to go at
it another way .   And the Manuals, as references, are just
unmanageable - at least in any format I've found them.   Perhaps I'll
get some time to sit down for a spell and really concentrate on it
soon.

Thanks for brinigng clarity and light Bj.

Joseph

 Hi Joseph

 First a dsiclaimer, in view of my closing remark, I apologise in
advance for
 any inadvertent slips in the following code... :-)

  This:'{$_POST['username']}' ),0);  in the SELECT
  query is the fault with the other problem, but I cannot work
  out what is wrong with it.   So far I haven't discovered a
  reference or an example which makes the problem clear,
  let alone the solution.

 I'm sure very few experienced programmers would write a complex
statement
 like that, and definitely not in an example for beginners to follow.
Far
 better practice is to break things down into simple steps rather
than string
 them together into an indecipherable lump (er... let's leave regular
 expressions out of this for now...)

 Try rewriting:

 # Verify if username already exists
 # 1. Build the query
 $query = SELECT_COUNT(*) AS ucount  .
   FROM book_mydb.members  .
   WHERE members.username =  .
'{$_POST['username']}' ;
 # [Incidentally I have no idea what the { } curly
 # brackets are doing here...]
 # To help debugging, display the query at this point
 # so you know what you are asking the db
 print Query is : $querybr\n;
 # 2. Execute the query:
 $result = mysql_query($query);
 # Check for a mySQL error:
 if mysql_error()  
   print Error:  . mysql_error() . br\n;
 else {
 # 3. Get the result of the query
   $_ucount = mysql_result($result,0);
 }

 Note that I wouldn't ever use mysql_result myself, as I prefer (as
good
 programming!) mysql_fetch_row and mysql_fetch_array.  More than ever
I am
 convinced you are trying to learn from someone who is an incompetent
 programmer, as well as a poor teacher and careless typist.

 There are some great php and mySQL tutorials on WDVL as well as
DevShed

 But hey, who needs tutorials when php and mySQL are so easy.  Why
not just
 find a real project and learn while you do it.


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[wdvltalk] Re: $_POST and access questions

2004-03-09 Thread Joseph, Smile Poet
Sheila,

First let me say thank you for the support and help;  I am most
gratefulto you and everybody else who contirbutes to my education.
I am just not in a position to attend any classes (not that I know of
any round here) at present.   The 'Look!Isn't php/mysql simple'
intros are fine, but only take one to the point of recognising what is
going on.   I haven't found any of the books recommended a few weeks
ago, so am trying to plough ahead.

Only in the past day or so have I firmly realised that my guides are
of the 'one-eyed man' type.   Now I need a fairly simple syntax
reference...

That sent me back to what are already copious notes, but not - alas! -
a syntax reference, which I have seen somewhere, before I knew its
value.

I can say that what you and Bj have written now makes sense to me, a
week ago it would not!   That is why I turned to another
tutorial/script to amend the one I asked about.   (At the moment it is
on the other machine on which I cannot yet burn CDs - don't ask and no
floppy drive - so won't show the script (from phpfreaks.com) which
seems much simpler and more elegant, turning the form entries into
variables, before doing the processes.

I have taken on board the use of dots and will seek to utilise that.
And will shortly test that simplified version you have given me.

I know there may also be problems with the updating of php;  no doubt
some scripts have not kept pace.

Good luck with writing the lessons;  there must be many like me (and
more to come) looking for bridges, in forms that are easy to
understand, between the intros and the complex and 'faulty' scripts .

Joseph

 Bj wrote:
  Try rewriting:
 
  # Verify if username already exists
  # 1. Build the query
  $query = SELECT_COUNT(*) AS ucount  .

 Where did the underscore come from? Should be a space.

FROM book_mydb.members  .
WHERE members.username =  .
 '{$_POST['username']}' ;
  # [Incidentally I have no idea what the { } curly
  # brackets are doing here...]

 The curly brackets let you put assoc arrays inside double quotes and
not
 confuse the parser. They mark the beginning and end of the variable.
As
 long as we are using dot to concatenate the strings we can leave {}
out:

 $query = SELECT COUNT(*) AS ucount  .
 FROM book_mydb.members  .
 WHERE members.username = ' . $_POST['username'] . ' ;

 Note the single quotes needed for SQL (to the right of = ) have been
 shifted to neigboring stings.

 It's not even necessary to use all those double quotes, this will
work
 just fine:

 $query = SELECT COUNT(*) AS ucount
FROM book_mydb.members
WHERE members.username = ' . $_POST['username'] . ' ;

  More than ever I am
  convinced you are trying to learn from someone who is an
incompetent
  programmer, as well as a poor teacher and careless typist.

 I agree. There is a lot of badly written code floating around the
net
 that just gets duplicated over and over again.

 Sheila

 PS: I teach Intro to PHP at EclecticAcademy.com  Teaching someone
else
 to code is not easy. I mainly try to provide examples of what I
consider
 good programming practices and hope the designers that take my class
 become comfortable enough with PHP to make minor changes to scripts.
I
 hope to add a PHP/MySQL class but it's a lot of work writing good
lessons.

 --
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 http://www.shefen.com



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[wdvltalk] $_POST and access questions

2004-03-08 Thread Joseph, Smile-Poet
Why this:
Notice: Undefined variable: email_error in c:\easyphp1-7\www\join.php on line 65

if the following two queries define the variable?:

if(!$_POST['email_address']){
 $errors .= Missing Email address\n;
$email_error = true ;
}
if(!$_POST['email_address2']){
 $errors .= Missing Email address.
  Verification\n;
$email_error = true ; 
}


//If both emails were posted, validate they match.
(line65)if( $email_error == false){ 
 if($_POST['email_address'] !=
$_POST['email_address2']){
 $error = true;
$errors .= Email addresses do not match!\n\n;
$email_error = true;
}

AND

why this:
Warning: mysql_result(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in 
c:\easyphp1-7\www\join.php on line 102

from this:

 //Verify if username already exists
$_ucount = mysql_result(mysql_query(SELECT_COUNT(*)
AS ucount FROM book_mydb.members
 WHERE members.username =
 (line 102)  '{$_POST['username']}' ),0);

Joseph   (I'm not *that* far advanced, these are from a tutorial;  but after aplying 
what little knowledge I've gained I'm getting the same errors.   And the servers *are* 
turned on!)

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[wdvltalk] Re: $_POST and access questions

2004-03-08 Thread Joseph, Smile Poet
Sheila and Robin,

Thanks very much.   You were right about the variable *not* having
been defined;   I'm a bit closer to understanding and being able to
watch out for that!

This:'{$_POST['username']}' ),0);  in the SELECT query is the
fault with the other problem, but I cannot work out what is wrong with
it.   So far I haven't discovered a reference or an example which
makes the problem clear, let alone the solution.

Joseph




 Hi Joseph,

 Joseph, Smile-Poet wrote:
  Why this:
  Notice: Undefined variable: email_error in
c:\easyphp1-7\www\join.php on line 65
 
  if the following two queries define the variable?:
 
  if(!$_POST['email_address']){
  $errors .= Missing Email address\n;
  $email_error = true ;
  }
  if(!$_POST['email_address2']){
  $errors .= Missing Email address.
Verification\n;
  $email_error = true ;
  }
 
 
  file://If both emails were posted, validate they match.
  (line65) if( $email_error ==
se){ 
   if($_POST['email_address'] !=
  $_POST['email_address2']){
   $error = true;
 $errors .= Email addresses do not match!\n\n;
  $email_error = true;
  }
  
 
 $email_error needs an initial value. Add this line
   $email_error = false;
 before the first 'if' statement.
 
 
  Warning: mysql_result(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in 
  c:\easyphp1-7\www\join.php on line 102
  
 This usually means there is something wrong with the SQL statement.
 
  from this:
  
   file://Verify if username already exists
  $_ucount = mysql_result(mysql_query(SELECT_COUNT(*)
  AS ucount FROM book_mydb.members
  WHERE members.username =
   (line 102)'{$_POST['username']}' ),0);
  
 
 Break this up into several steps so you can find the problem,
 
 $sql = SELECT_COUNT(*) AS ucount FR
OM book_mydb.members
 '{$_POST['username']}' ;

 $result = mysql_query($sql);

 if ($result) {
$_ucount = mysql_result($result);
 } else {
echo mysql_errno() . :  . mysql_error(). br\n;
echo SQL: $sqlbr\n;
 }



 Sheila
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[wdvltalk] RE: Password problem on mysql

2004-03-07 Thread Joseph, Smile Poet
Paul,

It took me 10 days to get round to it, but try as I might I am still
blocked from access.   I wonder if the information is in the registry,
and so can't be overwritten without changing that;  which I am not
going to try!

But I have just copied the db folders from one machine to the other,
and they are working whre I need them.   For anybody else setting up
Easyphp1-7 I do recommend Rod's Guide
http://www.canowhoopass.com/guides/easyphp/
Which I read and follwed for the second installation.It saved me
the grief I had in the first!!!

Many thanks for  the advice Paul;  I must have done things that the
machine would not forgive me for ...

Joseph

 Hi,
 You should delete the mysql database (c:\data\mysql\) and
re-install. By
 default, a re-install won't onverwrite existing mysql base tables if
 those are found. Deleting them will force a re-install with no
password

 Paul

 | -Original Message-
 | From: Joseph, Smile Poet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 1:22 AM
 | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | Subject: [wdvltalk] Password problem on mysql
 |
 |
 | It will surprise no one that I have fallen into the local server
 | password trap:-o
 |
 | I thought I had uninstalled and re-installed in a different folder
in
 | order to start again.   However when I try to open phpmyadmin I
get
 |
 | ***#2003 - Can't connect to MySQL server on 'localhost' (10061)
 | ***
 |
 | I cannot get the Command Prompt to go to mysql - the message is
 | similar.   I'm not too exercised about this as I will put a clean
 | install on my new machine (Xp home on Dell) but there is one db
that I
 | would like to transfer without redoing.   Presumably if I can't
save
 | it properly I can't just sneak it into the \data folder!!
 |
 | As an exercise I would just like to see if I can solve it.I
don't
 | seems able to find any idea beyond C:\  C:\mysql\bin\mysql
 | -u root mysql  in the manual;  this (altered to the correct
 | url) also brings up an error.
 |
 | Any thoughts?
 |
 | Joseph
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[wdvltalk] RE: Photoshop - Help needed with layers

2004-03-04 Thread Joseph, Smile-Poet
Jac,

Try Photoshop Haven on yahoogroups.com;  there are some very sharp people there.   
Good depth and breadth of knowledge.

Joseph - sorry don't have the subscribe link;  but this is from my new machine and I 
haven't transferred...and I haven't  you get the picture.   Oh, and using 
Bloomba mail client.

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 Date: Thu, Mar-4-2004 10:41 AM
 Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: Photoshop - Help needed with layers
 
 Folks, thanks for the help with my unresolved pain in the ass problem
 last night. Can anyone recommend a good PS newsgroup and a tutorial
 site? 
 
 TIA
 jac.
 
 
 
  
 
 
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[wdvltalk] RE: Password problem on mysql

2004-02-28 Thread Joseph, Smile Poet
Paul,

Thanks for the suggestion.I followed this, then did it again with
emptying recycle bin at the appropriate point but still got the error.
I'll be setting up the new machine and will put a fresh install on
that.   This time I'll try to make sure I do the password at the right
time in the right way!

Of course, I am assuming it is the password that causes the error,
though I can't see where it can still reside after a full or partial
re-install.   Still, I have already been sitting in front of a monitor
too long to expect every problem to have an answer!

Joseph
Chacha Joe
For a site of laughs and a FREE ezine:
www.smilepoetryweekly.com

 Hi,
 You should delete the mysql database (c:\data\mysql\) and
re-install. By
 default, a re-install won't onverwrite existing mysql base tables if
 those are found. Deleting them will force a re-install with no
password

 Paul

 | -Original Message-
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 | Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 1:22 AM
 | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 |
 |
 | It will surprise no one that I have fallen into the local server
 | password trap:-o
 |
 | I thought I had uninstalled and re-installed in a different folder
in
 | order to start again.   However when I try to open phpmyadmin I
get
 |
 | ***#2003 - Can't connect to MySQL server on 'localhost' (10061)
 | ***
 |
 | I cannot get the Command Prompt to go to mysql - the message is
 | similar.   I'm not too exercised about this as I will put a clean
 | install on my new machine (Xp home on Dell) but there is one db
that I
 | would like to transfer without redoing.   Presumably if I can't
save
 | it properly I can't just sneak it into the \data folder!!
 |
 | As an exercise I would just like to see if I can solve it.I
don't
 | seems able to find any idea beyond C:\  C:\mysql\bin\mysql
 | -u root mysql  in the manual;  this (altered to the correct
 | url) also brings up an error.
 |
 | Any thoughts?
 |
 | Joseph



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[wdvltalk] Re: Can't E-Mail List

2004-02-28 Thread Joseph, Smile Poet
Peter,

I have had a few subscriptions halted for bounced mails - this to a
mailbox which is used for under a hundred mails a day and has over
20Mb of space.   I find downloads of files to be slow at the moment,
too.

Also 'can't find page' when a 'refresh' or click on 'go' brings it
up - though a bit slowly.

Joseph
Chacha Joe
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For cricket lovers everywhere:

From: Peter MacGregor
This got through to mew in UK so can't be much wrong!!

I've been seeing a lot of problems with emails around the world these
past
few weeks. A lot of people are phoning me and telling me they are
getting
emails bounced with the message Mailbox full. Since I download
emails
every 30m minutes automatically day and night via my broadband
connection,
and have Eudora set to delete mails from server when downloaded, I
haven't
a clue why this is happening.

Anyone else having problems? Also, some people are saying my emails
come
through with lots of hieroglyphics or weird characters in them that
make
them difficult to read. Anyone seeing this from me?

Peter MacGregor


At 21:30 27/02/2004, you wrote:
Whenever I send a message or reply to a message, I get this error
message
in response:

Sorry, your stylized text, or HTML mail can not be distributed
through the
Internet.Com discussion lists. The only acceptable format for posting
to
wdvltalk is ASCII Text. Please, re-send your post to continue your
discussion on wdvltalk.

I am sending plain text from Microsoft Outlook.  Not sure what
other
setting to apply.  What else could be wrong?



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[wdvltalk] Re: http://www.fireballmedia.ie/clients/premier/index.htm

2004-02-26 Thread Joseph, Smile Poet
jac,

started in 6 secs, finished in 16.500Mhz, W98se, but at a quiet
part of the night!!

Joseph
Chacha Joe
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- Original Message -
From: jac [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 6:56 PM
Subject: [wdvltalk]
http://www.fireballmedia.ie/clients/premier/index.htm


 guys,
 the client is saying it takes ages to load (he must be on a 56k) but
 I've checked it and none of the images are very heavy except for the
 enlarged kitchens. can someone please have a look  let me know how
 quick (or slow as the case may be) it loads so I can go back and
blame
 his connection with an air of confidence about me.

 thanks in advance,

 jac.

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[wdvltalk] if.. else.. (php)

2004-02-24 Thread Joseph, Smile Poet
I've spent three sessions and many hours and I can't solve it;   I am
following a tutorial and the exercise is to generate the head
information.   All the information is written but there is an error:

-Notice: Undefined variable: meta in
d:\progs\easyphp1-7\www\classes\clsMetaContent.php on line 30
Welcome to my website! -

index.php calls layout.php which calls the classes script.

lin 30 is the last line of the if .. else statement:

//If no page title use alternative
 if(!$ptitle){
   $meta .= title$this-sitename - .
  $meta .= $this-slogan/title\n;
 }else{
   $meta .= title$this-sitename: .
  $meta .= $ptitle/title\n;
 }

If, as it complains, the variable is undefined in line 30, it should
be using the --if (!$ptitle)--  and not the --else--  ?

Help

Joseph




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[wdvltalk] Re: Am I out of touch? (web sizes)

2004-02-24 Thread Joseph, Smile Poet
JR

Can you imagine how long that takes on a 56k modem - especially if
they slow to a couple of kb/s (and it happens, oh yes it happens!
With the web flooded with spam at the moment I have had downloads
chugging in the tens of bytes/s).

Someone really has a 1.1mb home page?:o0And for anything
political it is crass to say the least.

Joseph

 Without giving away the site I'm talking about, which is a
competitor of one
 of my clients...

 Their home page is 1.1Mb. It takes about 25 seconds to download on
my
 broadband connection.

 Am I out of touch to think that is ridiculous? The clientele is the
entire
 population, as it is a political web site.

 Makes me happy that half of everybody won't wait around for the
show, but I
 just want some assurance that time hasn't passed me by.

 Thanks,

 J.R.


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[wdvltalk] Re: if.. else.. (php)

2004-02-24 Thread Joseph, Smile Poet
Bj and Sheila,

You were both right.   Both problems were straight from the tutorial -
being a trusting soul I was looking typing errors or excess
astigmatism!   Not till I tested both together did the error line
disappear and the browser page come up as it should.   (my next
problem is sorting out a password for mysql;   I shall do this on my
own, I hope)

John,

I would have followed your idea next.

Thanks

Joseph

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 From: Joseph, Smile Poet

  -Notice: Undefined variable: meta in

 Period and equals .= is shorthand code for equals its present
value plus
 what I am adding here

 So this line:
   $meta .= title$this-sitename - .
 is shorthand for:
   $meta = $meta . title...

 and if $meta doesn't already have any value, you will get exactly
this error

 In other words, either $meta has to be defined as something before
you try
 to use it in that line, or else the first time, you should be using
= on
 its own and not .=




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[wdvltalk] Re: Searching with Google.

2004-02-18 Thread Joseph, Smile Poet
Peter,

I think Brits have got bored with the industrial revolution.   Either
that or the country has lost all sense of purpose and direction.I
think Morgan is the only company that ignores all the changes and gets
on with hand making highly priced and highly prized vehicles;  sorry
they are not ambulances!

Joseph

Thanks, Joseph - someone else had sent me MMB and I'd found Dennis but
they
don't do ambulances.

Seems the biggest ambulance maker in UK went into liquidation in 2002
with
loss of 300 jobs thanks directly to the EU Tendering policy that makes
all
Public Bodies go out to tender for this sort of value and the
Continentals
have undercut everyone. There is a suspicion they are loss leading
but of
course it cannot be proved.

Peter MacGregor




At 14:54 18/02/2004, you wrote:
Peter,

Intriguing.   I tried Emercgency vehicle manufacturers uk.   Through
Kelly there is this

Address
108c Wales Road
Kiveton Park
Sheffield
South Yorkshire
S26 6RD
United Kingdom

Map

  Telephone, fax and web
Tel:  +44 01909 772244
Fax:  +44 0700 3900033

http://www.ifars.co.uk

---and this

Address
Dennis Way
Guildford
Surrey
GU1 1AF
United Kingdom

Map

Guildford companies
  Telephone, fax and web
Tel:  (01483) 571271
Fax:  (01483) 301697

http://www.dennisfire


Adding ambulamce got this and others

MMB International

Unit A, Calamine Street,
Macclesfield, Cheshire SK11 7HU
Tel 01625 615025/511421
Fax 01625 511513
Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Macclesfield Motor Bodies (UK) Ltd

Queens Avenue,
Hurdsfield Industrial Estate
Macclesfield, Cheshire SK10 2DG
Tel:(01625) 428111
Fax: (01625) 619546
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Macclesfield Motor Bodies (UK) Ltd



  HTH

Joseph


  Anyone seen this problem before?
 
  I've had an enquiry to provide a range of emergency services
vehicles
  through another company I run. I did a Google search for
ambulances
via
  their UK site as the specification says they MUST be UK produced.
I
used
  ambulances  and ambulance and got nothing.
 
  I posted an enquiry on another Business Forum to see if anyone
knew
of a
  maker and someone has come back with a suitable match that didn't
appear
  when I did the search but he said it was third on his list of
results.
 
  I've just put both words in again for another search and still got
no
  suitable results!!
 
  Peter MacGregor
 
 
 
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[wdvltalk] Re: Any One Use Bloomba?

2004-02-18 Thread Joseph, Smile Poet
Nice one Janet.   I have asked for it free!   It might solve my
problem of having mails acrss three programs   don't ask.

Joseph

 Hi-

 Just reading the current issue of Fast Company. Article features
Bloomba
 which they regard as the potential successor to Outlook. They call
it the
 google of email as it uses search capability to eliminate the need
for
 folders for organizing email messages. It has a companion product
that is a
 spam filter.

 Anyone use Bloomba? Sounds interesting even though I am firmly
attached to
 my file folders (both paper and digital!)

 Janet




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[wdvltalk] Re: [OT] Abandonware (Was: Re: Adobe Found!)

2004-02-18 Thread Joseph, Smile Poet
Tom,

Just had a quick look at your 'what's new' page.   At the bottom the
tooltip to the 'what's new' links comes up behind the entity 7 - Web
design banner.   I assume this is the effect of layers.   Here it
looks like the difficulty of the banner floating above a coloured box
which partners the coloured box with the text links.

Is there a way round this?   Without a lot of work, that is.   Anyone
else faced such a problem?

Joseph
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 At 11:01 AM 02/18/2004 -0500, you wrote:
 --- Jan wrote: ---
 
 : Tom
 : If you ever find the answer to your question below and it's ok, I
 : sure would like to share that program.
 :
 : Jan
 :
 
 When in doubt... Wikipedia:
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandonware
 
 hth,
 Stephen
 http://www.mechavox.com/

 Hey, Steve, thanks for the link! The bit about ColecoVision
 games really struck a nerve - ColecoVision was my first and
 favorite game system. Around a year ago, I downloaded the
 emulator and all the ROMs I could find for it (along with a
 TI-994A Emulator and all its games!) I still enjoy some of
 those old games - even moreso than some of the newer ones!

 Another link on that page took me to a site where I grabbed
 a copy of Red Baron - one of my alltime favorite flight
 simulators! It's the only one I was ever able to both take
 off and actually *land* in without crashing. ;-) I love
 those old bi-wings!

 Jan, I'll get in touch with Adobe and see what they say. If
 they OK it, I'll get back to you off-list regarding Wind
 Chimes.

 Thanks to all that helped me reach them. :)

 Cheers,
 Tom
 ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
   Here's a few of the programs I use myself!
 http://aznewyou.com/cyberpub/whatsnew.shtml




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[wdvltalk] sql table logic

2004-02-08 Thread Joseph, Smile Poet
Mainly I think to Rudy for kind comment.

Having now started to understand some of the tutorials and grasped
some part of the logic of table structure and information retrieval I
have set out some tables.   If it is possible can you say whether
these look along the right lines?

For the poetry database:

Main table:
POEMS  Poem_id, title, date_written, date_update[NULL]

Classification tables:
a number with the simple structure:
LIMERICK Lim_id, poem_id
HAIKU haiku_id, poem_id
etc

Publishing:
PUBLISH publish_id, poem_id, bookspp_id [NULL], magspw_id[NULL],
book_other_id[NULL], mag_other_id[NULL]
BOOKSPP book_id, book_name
MAGSPW magspw_id, mag_no, mag_date
BOOK_OTHER book_other_id, book_other_name, book_other_publisher,
book_other_address[NULL], book_other_email [NULL],
book_other_fax[NULL}, book_other_phone[NULL], book_contact1_id[NULL],
book_contact2_id[NULL]
MAGS_OTHER (same columns as book_other)

contacts:
BOOK_CONTACT book_contact_id, book_other_id, book_contact_name[NULL],
(book_contact) _address[NULL], _email[NULL], _fax[NULL], _phone[NULL],
_change[NULL]
MAGS_CONTACT (same columns as book_contact)

submission record:
SUBMIT submit_id, poem_id, submit_date, response_date[NULL],
accept_date[NULL], reject_date[NULL], payment_offer[NULL],
payment_receipt[NULL], payment_amt[NULL]
BANKED banked_id, submit_id, date, amount
ACCEPTED accept_id, submit_id, acceptance_date, publication_date,
payment_due_date, payment_receipt_ref(publisher's)[NULL],
overdue_note[NULL]

book sales:
BOOK_SALES_OTHER book_sales_other_id, bookspp_id[NULL], outlet_id,
no_sold[NULL], value
OUTLET outlet_id, name, type, outlet_contact_id
OUTLET_CONTACT (as BOOK_CONTACT)
BOOK_SALES book_sales_id, book_spp_id, sale_date, sale_value

And I assume it is possible to have a script to automatically fill in
the last table as sales occur.

Many thanks,

Joseph


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[wdvltalk] Re: sql table logic

2004-02-08 Thread Joseph, Smile Poet
Bj,

Got it!   I am sure you have given a similar explanation to someone
else not so long ago.   The thing that hadn't quite connected is
entering an item to be classified more than once into a table.   That
will do exactly what I want, which is to be able to list and/or count
all poems of a particular type.

And I realise Rudy is pointing me to that on the publishing tables.
Hey ho, back to the drawing board just as a threatening cold is making
me take various dulling liquids (any virtual scotch going, michael?).
There are lots of refinements in this, aren't there?

Thanks,

Joseph

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 From: Joseph, Smile Poet

  Classification tables:
  a number with the simple structure:
  LIMERICK Lim_id, poem_id
  HAIKU haiku_id, poem_id

 Let's have a quick run through relational databases shall we?  You
have a
 bunch of poem classifications.  Each can match many poems.  You have
a bunch
 of poems.  Each may fir into more than one class.  Therefore you
need three
 tables: one to list the classes, one to list the poems, and one to
list the
 links between the two:

 POEMS   CLASS-INDEXCLASSES

 poem-id ---   poem-id
 poem-nameclass-id --- class-id
 poem-dateclass-name
 poem-author
 
 Thus there is one entry in class-index for every fit between a
poem and
 the classes of poems.  Given the following examples:

 poem classes:
 1 - Limerick
 2 - Haiku
 3 - Doggerel
 4 - Comic Verse

 ...the following poem could fit #2, 'Haiku', as well as #4, 'Comic
Verse'::

 Three things are certain:
 Death, taxes, and lost data.
 Guess which has occurred.

 So, in class-index you make two records, one with the id of the
above poem
 and class-id = 2, and another where class-id = 4.

 Then you write nice complicated SQL queries for Rudy to improve on,
like:

 SELECT poem-name, poem-author
   FROM poems, class-index
   WHERE poems.poem-id = class-index.poem-id
   AND class-id = 4

 In other words you can find all the poems whose id appears in the
index
 table against the id of a given class.  This is definitely more
correct
 than having a field in the poems table for class that can say
limerick or
 haiku, comic verse and doing a search for poems where that field
contains
 haiku, even though that works just as well really :-)

 The best way to design your database is, erm, a bit like Access does
it
 looks guilty  You draw little boxes on a sheet of paper, one box
for each
 table, with the table name at the top and the names of the columns
(fields)
 underneath inside the box.  Then you draw little arrows that join up
the
 boxes to indicate the relationships between them.  If my attempted
diagram
 above reads the same in your email client as it does in mine, you
should get
 the idea.  Each table should (ideally) have one value that uniquely
 identifies each individual row (record) and then you look to see if
any of
 the fields can be moved out to another table, as we have done with
the
 classification type.

 Don't worry about the SQL queries needed to put it all back together
for the
 time being.  Maybe it helps to think about how you might enter the
data - is
 it a field that would have to be typed in, or could the value be
chosen from
 a drop-down box? If so, that probably needs its own table.

 Sometimes it might seem a waste: for instance, there is only one
author's
 name, so why not put the name itself in, instead of an id number to
lookup
 the name in a table of authors?  The reason is that things change,
first
 there could be two authors with the same name, second you might get
two
 people collaborate on a poem, third you might decide you want the
author's
 address... in each case life is easier when the author data is in a
table
 where it only appears once, and only the id goes in the poems table.

 That should keep you going another week :-)


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[wdvltalk] [OT] paypal

2004-02-06 Thread Joseph, Smile Poet
I am finding it impossible to get to the paypal site.   Is it down?
(unlikely)   Or have I a problem?

Joseph


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[wdvltalk] Re: update[OT] paypal

2004-02-06 Thread Joseph, Smile Poet
M$ haters will be happy to explain this:

It was IE that couldn't connect to paypal;  Opera has done it with no
problem!  ?;-)

Joseph

 I am finding it impossible to get to the paypal site.   Is it down?
 (unlikely)   Or have I a problem?

 Joseph


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[wdvltalk] Re: Feedback on Flash e-card please

2004-02-05 Thread Joseph, Smile Poet
Perry,

It took a bit of time on my dial-up, but once stated it ran very
smoothly.I liked it, too.   (And I'm a pretty anti-flash kind a'
guy - reference for Brit readers!).   Congrats.

Joseph

Chacha Joe
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Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 2:58 PM
Subject: [wdvltalk] Feedback on Flash e-card please


Alright here it is. My Flash dbut. After four days and three nights
with
virtually no sleep, I think I have a handle on Flash. (sort of)
This will be my demo submission in a bid for a new full-time job with
the
Nashville Convention Visitor's Bureau.
The job will include sending out e-cards invitations to travel
professionals
promoting special events like this sample.

I think I need a preloader sequence for people with a dial-up
connection but
beyond that, I think this is done. Please - Please give me some
feedback
before I submit this, this afternoon.

http://www.webinitiative.net/nashville_cvb/ncvb_ecard.html

Thanks,
Perry Gerenday
www.webinitiative.net



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