Re: Wocommunity wiki

[Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev]

Oh good

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On 4/4/24, 5:19 PM, "Francois BIENTZ via Webobjects-dev" 
mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> wrote:


Thank you 
The wiki is back 
Franc 


> Le 4 avr. 2024 à 14:31, Francois BIENTZ  <mailto:f.bie...@laposte.net>> a écrit :
> 
> Hi All
> 
> Is the wocommunity wiki broken ?
> 
> Franc


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Zoom session on Maven????

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there was interest in some sort of a zoom session on working with maven. is 
there any continued interest?
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Re: Maven "Quick Start" [was: Re: Meetup maybe? Or call me maybe?]

[Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev]

Is the xWiki down?

https://wiki.wocommunity.org/

I can’t get on!

Ted

> On Dec 25, 2023, at 03:30, Paul Hoadley via Webobjects-dev 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 25 Dec 2023, at 08:38, Paul Hoadley via Webobjects-dev 
> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hugi and I will fix the documentation on the Wiki. Going from zero to Hello 
>> World should take anyone about 10 minutes (modulo some artefact download 
>> time). Converting an existing project might take 20 minutes.
> 
> I've just updated the Maven "Quick Start" page here:
> 
> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/xwiki/bin/view/WOL/Home/WOProject-Maven/Quick%20Start/
> 
> It's a re-write from scratch: some of the existing information was helpful 10 
> years ago, but a lot of it was stale and fragmented. I've tested it myself, 
> and it should work. My claim is that even a non-Mavenite should be able to go 
> from zero to Maven-Hello-World in about 10 minutes. Please try it out, 
> especially the New-Mavenites and Maven-Curious:
> 
> * Does it work from start to finish? If not, let me know where it failed and 
> I'll fix it.
> * How long did it take?
> 
> 
> -- 
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Re: Meetup maybe? Or call me maybe?

[Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev]

Samuel,

I found this really worked as written and it is great! If you want to 
schedule a TeamViewer session to work with someone that just got it working, 
let me know. I am hanging around with nothing to do……

Ted

> https://gist.github.com/hugithordarson/d2ba6da9e4942f4ece95d7a721159cd1




> On Dec 23, 2023, at 10:44, Hugi Thordarson  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> just seeing this now, sorry! The whole family apart from me decided to go 
> sick last week, so I've assumed the duties of shopping, wrapping and 
> otherwise preparing the holidays alongside work :).
> 
> But I like Ted's idea of "sharing the love". If there's interest, I'd love to 
> have an open online session to introduce maven and help with transition where 
> required. However, I'll have very little free time for maven stuff until 
> after new years' eve, since in the next few days, I'll need to catch up on 
> work while keeping the family alive. But Ted, I'm certainly free for some 
> quick help — hit me up on Slack!
> 
> Samuel; the maven info on the WOCommunity wiki is very outdated, to the point 
> that I think a lot of it should just be deleted and replaced with more modern 
> info. I've been kind of shy to do that (i.e. fudging around with other 
> peoples' hard work), but it's probably time to just … do it? I'm excited to 
> play around with that new wiki software Maik has set up!
> 
> In the last couple of years, I've put my guides into gists, so here are a 
> couple; one showing how to do a fresh setup of a WO maven development 
> environment, and another one showing how to port an existing Fluffy Bunny 
> project to maven (which Paul has also added to):
> 
> https://gist.github.com/hugithordarson/d2ba6da9e4942f4ece95d7a721159cd1
> https://gist.github.com/hugithordarson/3c269a3196d0c4f2da486f1109c16d42
> 
> Merry christmas to you all!
> - hugi
> 
> 
>> On Dec 21, 2023, at 15:21, Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Samuel,
>> 
>> Hugi and I had a session and he showed me what to do. I can create a new 
>> Wonder app as well as a D2W app with maven. 
>> 
>> I am trying to reconnect with him and when I do, we can do a Zoom meeting 
>> and invite anyone that is interested.
>> 
>> Are you interested in joining this session?
>> 
>> Ted
>> 
>>> On Dec 21, 2023, at 7:14 AM, Samuel Pelletier via Webobjects-dev 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> If you managed to create a new project, you where able to go far beyond my 
>>> achievements !
>>> 
>>> I tried to switch to maven few times in the last years and just gave up 
>>> each time after few hours and never managed to create a new project without 
>>> error that build ever after reading and trying to understand the 3-4 page 
>>> on the subject I found.
>>> 
>>> If someone familiar with the matter can create or update an existing page 
>>> with a step by step procedure starting from a totally clean user account, 
>>> it would be great.
>>> 
>>> Creating new Wonder project would be sufficient but also having some 
>>> instructions to migrate a project using an BusinessLogic framework would be 
>>> a dream.
>>> 
>>> Merry Christmas to everyone on the list,
>>> 
>>> Samuel
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Le 20 déc. 2023 à 20:34, Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev 
>>>> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> a 
>>>> écrit :
>>>> 
>>>> Is there any interest in a Zoom meeting to discuss maven. I really don’t 
>>>> care about the technology Hugi and I worked out TeamViewer (my office has 
>>>> an account so there is no time limit)
>>>> 
>>>> Hugi are the documents you shared with me available on the WOCommunity 
>>>> xWiki? I did have some problems converting my app. New D2W projects run.
>>>> 
>>>> How can we get together again?
>>>> 
>>>> Ted
>>>> 
>>>> I have a Zoom account, and TeamViewer.
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Re: Meetup maybe? Or call me maybe?

[Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev]

Samuel,

Hugi and I had a session and he showed me what to do. I can create a new Wonder 
app as well as a D2W app with maven. 

I am trying to reconnect with him and when I do, we can do a Zoom meeting and 
invite anyone that is interested.

Are you interested in joining this session?

Ted

> On Dec 21, 2023, at 7:14 AM, Samuel Pelletier via Webobjects-dev 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If you managed to create a new project, you where able to go far beyond my 
> achievements !
> 
> I tried to switch to maven few times in the last years and just gave up each 
> time after few hours and never managed to create a new project without error 
> that build ever after reading and trying to understand the 3-4 page on the 
> subject I found.
> 
> If someone familiar with the matter can create or update an existing page 
> with a step by step procedure starting from a totally clean user account, it 
> would be great.
> 
> Creating new Wonder project would be sufficient but also having some 
> instructions to migrate a project using an BusinessLogic framework would be a 
> dream.
> 
> Merry Christmas to everyone on the list,
> 
> Samuel
> 
> 
>> Le 20 déc. 2023 à 20:34, Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev 
>> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> a 
>> écrit :
>> 
>> Is there any interest in a Zoom meeting to discuss maven. I really don’t 
>> care about the technology Hugi and I worked out TeamViewer (my office has an 
>> account so there is no time limit)
>> 
>> Hugi are the documents you shared with me available on the WOCommunity 
>> xWiki? I did have some problems converting my app. New D2W projects run.
>> 
>> How can we get together again?
>> 
>> Ted
>> 
>> I have a Zoom account, and TeamViewer.
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Meetup maybe? Or call me maybe?

[Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev]

Is there any interest in a Zoom meeting to discuss maven. I really don’t care 
about the technology Hugi and I worked out TeamViewer (my office has an account 
so there is no time limit)

Hugi are the documents you shared with me available on the WOCommunity xWiki? I 
did have some problems converting my app. New D2W projects run.

How can we get together again?

Ted

I have a Zoom account, and TeamViewer.
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New Install On Sonoma 4.1.2

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I have a new computer with Sonoma 14.1.2  Eclipse Version: 2023-09 (4.29.0) 
Build id: 20230907-1323

I created a new Wonder App and tried to debug it by selecting the 
application.java and right clicking to debug a WOApplication

it crashes with this error:


java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke 
"er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication.getIsTerminating()" because the return 
value of "er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication.erxApplication()" is null
 at er.extensions.appserver.ERXShutdownHook$1.run(ERXShutdownHook.java:64)

I need some help here!!!
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New Install On Sonoma 4.1.2

[Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev]

I have a new computer with Sonoma 14.1.2  Eclipse Version: 2023-09 (4.29.0) 
Build id: 20230907-1323

I created a new Wonder App and tried to debug it by selecting the 
application.java and right clicking to debug a WOApplication

it crashes with this error:


java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke 
"er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication.getIsTerminating()" because the return 
value of "er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication.erxApplication()" is null
at er.extensions.appserver.ERXShutdownHook$1.run(ERXShutdownHook.java:64)

I need some help here!!!
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Re: Forbidden - You don't have permission to access this resource.

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I tried to Edit a page and I received a message "Failed to Lock Page”



> On Dec 4, 2023, at 8:32 AM, Maik Musall  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ted,
> 
> no thanks, we’re still sitting on some funds for WOLips and feel bad that all 
> our attemps so far to pay someone to improve that have failed…
> 
> Maik
> 
> 
>> Am 04.12.2023 um 14:03 schrieb Theodore Petrosky :
>> 
>> Maik,
>> 
>> Fantastik!!!  You are great!   Password reset worked perfectly….
>> 
>> Should we talk about paying a fee to offset the license fee?
>> 
>> Ted
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2023, at 6:19 AM, Maik Musall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> the wiki is back up again at https://wiki.wocommunity.org 
>>> <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/>. We migrated the Confluence stuff to Xwiki 
>>> and are sponsoring the required “Pro Macros” license (350 EUR per year). 
>>> Please report any problems you encounter.
>>> 
>>> There were more than 1000 user accounts, which we deleted most of, along 
>>> with unused groups that don’t make sense any more. Left are 61 accounts 
>>> that are associated with actual content. If you want to make use of yours, 
>>> please use the “reset password” function to assign yourself a password, as 
>>> only the account names and email addresses were migrated, but no passwords.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your patience, and thanks to my colleague Yana for doing the 
>>> migration
>>> Maik
>> 
> 

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Re: Forbidden - You don't have permission to access this resource.

[Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev]

Maik,

Fantastik!!!  You are great!   Password reset worked perfectly….

Should we talk about paying a fee to offset the license fee?

Ted

> On Dec 4, 2023, at 6:19 AM, Maik Musall  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> the wiki is back up again at https://wiki.wocommunity.org 
> . We migrated the Confluence stuff to Xwiki 
> and are sponsoring the required “Pro Macros” license (350 EUR per year). 
> Please report any problems you encounter.
> 
> There were more than 1000 user accounts, which we deleted most of, along with 
> unused groups that don’t make sense any more. Left are 61 accounts that are 
> associated with actual content. If you want to make use of yours, please use 
> the “reset password” function to assign yourself a password, as only the 
> account names and email addresses were migrated, but no passwords.
> 
> Thanks for your patience, and thanks to my colleague Yana for doing the 
> migration
> Maik

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Re: Forbidden - You don't have permission to access this resource.

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I forgot about this. It is really fantastic. Buy the book It is a great 
reference to have. I also have it on my Kindle account….

Ted

> On Dec 3, 2023, at 7:13 AM, mailinglists via Webobjects-dev 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kenji, 
> you should be able to follow the instructions on 
> https://learningthewonders.com 
> Site looks a bit outdated but nothing has changed in the recent years so I 
> did not bother to update its wordings (I am the author of the book “Learning 
> The Wonders” which is available from amazon in print as well as 
> electronically)
> 
> Have fun and come back with any question!
> ---markus---
> 
> 
>> On 3 Dec 2023, at 00:04, TsuruponKenny via Webobjects-dev 
>> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I'm WebObjecs, WOLisp beginner for several  years in very slow pace.   When 
>> I  install apples new OSX then install WOLisp ( WebObjects ) using Ant base 
>> with vintage document “Webobjects Tutorial “ .
>> 
>> I install Sonoma and to try to install normal WOF base but,  I could not 
>> find  very important web page : WOCommunity Web Page! 
>> 
>> I forgot  how to install the WebObjects  5.4.3  sepecial way.
>> 
>> Please   reopen the WebObjects web pages or send me archived home page 
>> documents( WOCommunity Developments and Deployments ).   
>>
>> Kenji Tsurumi 
>> 
>> Japan 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
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Re: Forbidden - You don't have permission to access this resource.

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The wocommunity wiki is temporarily down.

Hopefully, it will come back up soon.

Ted

> On Dec 2, 2023, at 6:04 PM, TsuruponKenny via Webobjects-dev 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I'm WebObjecs, WOLisp beginner for several  years in very slow pace.   When I 
>  install apples new OSX then install WOLisp ( WebObjects ) using Ant base 
> with vintage document “Webobjects Tutorial “ .
> 
> I install Sonoma and to try to install normal WOF base but,  I could not find 
>  very important web page : WOCommunity Web Page! 
> 
> I forgot  how to install the WebObjects  5.4.3  sepecial way.
> 
> Please   reopen the WebObjects web pages or send me archived home page 
> documents( WOCommunity Developments and Deployments ).   
>
> Kenji Tsurumi 
> 
> Japan 
> 
>  
> 
> 
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Re: FORBIDDEN

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Thank you


> On Nov 28, 2023, at 5:29 PM, Maik Musall  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ted,
> 
> I’m sorry I wrote this only in the Slack channel: we have xWiki up and 
> running, but there are a few quirks left to sort out. We aim to have it back 
> up until the end of the week.
> 
> Maik
> 
> 
>> Am 28.11.2023 um 21:35 schrieb Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev 
>> :
>> 
>> Do we have any idea when the wiki can come back online?  
>> 
>> I have a new install one a Mac running Sonoma 14.1.1 that will not compile 
>> apps and as it is basically a new install, I would like to go over the 
>> install and see where I went wrong….. before I start asking for help…
>> 
>> Ted
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2023, at 4:50 PM, D Tim Cummings via Webobjects-dev 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> https://jenkins.wocommunity.org/job/WOLips_master/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/temp/dist/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 19/11/23 04:31, Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev wrote:
>>>> What are you using as the URL to update/install WOLips?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 18, 2023, at 1:25 PM, Jesse Tayler  
>>>>> <mailto:jtay...@oeinc.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, the wiki is DOWN — I noticed that literally yesterday or the day 
>>>>> before and forgot to mention —
>>>>> 
>>>>> Who’s hosting it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2023, at 12:19 PM, Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev 
>>>>>> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am trying to set ups new computer and I am getting a
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Forbidden
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You don't have permission to access this resource.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> At this URL
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/How-tos
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Help please!!
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Re: FORBIDDEN

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Do we have any idea when the wiki can come back online?  

I have a new install one a Mac running Sonoma 14.1.1 that will not compile apps 
and as it is basically a new install, I would like to go over the install and 
see where I went wrong….. before I start asking for help…

Ted

> On Nov 18, 2023, at 4:50 PM, D Tim Cummings via Webobjects-dev 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://jenkins.wocommunity.org/job/WOLips_master/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/temp/dist/
> 
> 
> On 19/11/23 04:31, Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev wrote:
>> What are you using as the URL to update/install WOLips?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2023, at 1:25 PM, Jesse Tayler  
>>> <mailto:jtay...@oeinc.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, the wiki is DOWN — I noticed that literally yesterday or the day 
>>> before and forgot to mention —
>>> 
>>> Who’s hosting it?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 18, 2023, at 12:19 PM, Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev 
>>>> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I am trying to set ups new computer and I am getting a
>>>> 
>>>> Forbidden
>>>> 
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Re: FORBIDDEN

[Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev]

What are you using as the URL to update/install WOLips?



> On Nov 18, 2023, at 1:25 PM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
> 
> Yes, the wiki is DOWN — I noticed that literally yesterday or the day before 
> and forgot to mention —
> 
> Who’s hosting it?
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2023, at 12:19 PM, Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev 
>> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I am trying to set ups new computer and I am getting a
>> 
>> Forbidden
>> 
>> You don't have permission to access this resource.
>> 
>> At this URL
>> 
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>> 
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FORBIDDEN

[Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev]

I am trying to set ups new computer and I am getting a

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access this resource.

At this URL

https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/How-tos

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Re: Asking questions

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Looks like the list archive is screwy...  there are no posts to the archive in 
February and/or March. But I know there was traffic. Who do we talk to at Apple 
to reset the list archive to show posts (or are they lost?).

Ted 
List top level:   https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo

2023 archive:  https://lists.apple.com/archives/webobjects-dev/2023

January:
https://lists.apple.com/archives/webobjects-dev/2023/Jan/index.html

Feb
https://lists.apple.com/archives/webobjects-dev/2023/Feb

Mar
https://lists.apple.com/archives/webobjects-dev/2023/Mar



On 3/7/23, 2:08 AM, "Jérémy DE ROYER via Webobjects-dev" 
mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> wrote:


+1


Jérémy


> Le 7 mars 2023 à 05:09, Michael Kondratov via Webobjects-dev 
> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> a 
> écrit :
> 
> I think there are people on the list still.
> 
> 
> Michael
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2023, at 18:32, Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev 
>> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> So I see there are no messages in the lists.appple.com webobjects archive. 
>> But, I see emails from posts to webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com 
>> <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>
>> 
>> So I am picking up a project shelved a long time ago. I have no intention of 
>> trying to redo this project in something else.
>> 
>> If I were to ask WO questions, where should they be posted?
>> 
>> I hope there are still voices around that can answer and are willing.
>> 
>> Ted
>> 
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Asking questions

[Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev]

So I see there are no messages in the lists.appple.com webobjects archive. But, 
I see emails from posts to webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com

So I am picking up a project shelved a long time ago. I have no intention of 
trying to redo this project in something else.

If I were to ask WO questions, where should they be posted?

I hope there are still voices around that can answer and are willing.

Ted

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Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

[Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev]

BTW,

I would be willing to put some money into a “fund me” kind of thing where 
someone that uses Maven creates a real wiki section on using Maven.

Just a thought.



From: "Ted Petrosky (WO)" 
Reply-To: Dev WO 
Date: Friday, June 17, 2022 at 9:32 AM
To: "Ted Petrosky (WO)" 
Subject: Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

I’m like Ted,

I though it would prevent me from keeping my current (ant) projects as they are.
I understand this only applies to building Wonder.
I don’t think it would be fair to ask the contributors to spend time on keeping 
a build system for Wonder that none of them use.

So as far as my opinion counts, I’m not against dropping ant build system from 
the Wonder build:)

Xavier



On 17 Jun 2022, at 15:26, Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev 
mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> wrote:

Just to answer the question from before, I do build my own Wonder frameworks. 
It looks like I am going to have to put in the time to get Maven going in my 
work flow.,



BTW, does anyone here subscribe to Builtlwith?

814 new WebObjects Leads
https://trends.builtwith.com/websitelist/WebObjects/Added-Recently

I was looking around and I was amazed that the Siemens login page has a video 
tutorial. As I watched it I noticed that all the pages referred to had 
WebObjects in the URL. There is WebObjects out there.



From: "Ted Petrosky (WO)" 
mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>>
Reply-To: Paul Hoadley mailto:pa...@logicsquad.net>>
Date: Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 8:06 PM
To: "Ted Petrosky (WO)" 
mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>>
Subject: Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

Hey Ted,

Already answered, but just for additional reassurance:

On 17 Jun 2022, at 08:17, Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev 
mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> wrote:

What about us guys whose projects are smallish projects and never instituted 
Maven...

It won't affect your projects! This is purely about building the Wonder 
frameworks from source. You won't need to migrate your projects to Maven if you 
don't want to, though I strongly recommend that you do.


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Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

[Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev]

Just to answer the question from before, I do build my own Wonder frameworks. 
It looks like I am going to have to put in the time to get Maven going in my 
work flow.,



BTW, does anyone here subscribe to Builtlwith?

814 new WebObjects Leads
https://trends.builtwith.com/websitelist/WebObjects/Added-Recently

I was looking around and I was amazed that the Siemens login page has a video 
tutorial. As I watched it I noticed that all the pages referred to had 
WebObjects in the URL. There is WebObjects out there.



From: "Ted Petrosky (WO)" 
Reply-To: Paul Hoadley 
Date: Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 8:06 PM
To: "Ted Petrosky (WO)" 
Subject: Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

Hey Ted,

Already answered, but just for additional reassurance:

On 17 Jun 2022, at 08:17, Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev 
mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> wrote:

What about us guys whose projects are smallish projects and never instituted 
Maven...

It won't affect your projects! This is purely about building the Wonder 
frameworks from source. You won't need to migrate your projects to Maven if you 
don't want to, though I strongly recommend that you do.


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Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

[Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev]

What about us guys whose projects are smallish projects and never instituted 
Maven...

Riddle me this how are the docs or examples on the Wiki to implement Maven?

Can you point me to some good references so I can come on board?

Ted


On 6/16/22, 6:42 PM, "Henrique Prange via Webobjects-dev" 
 wrote:

Hey guys,

I've been talking to other Wonder users/committers lately. Keeping the Ant 
build configuration up to date in Wonder is becoming increasingly 
counterproductive. Most of us have been using Maven for years. As a result, our 
environments are not prepared to build the project with Ant, making it hard to 
check if we broke something after every change. For this reason, I'd like to 
propose the removal of the Ant build configuration from project Wonder.

What do you think?

Cheers,

HP
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Re: ERJGroupsSynchronizer

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I’ve used it, and it wasn’t difficult. I just followed the example.

Ted

> On Mar 18, 2022, at 11:55 PM, Ricardo Parada via Webobjects-dev 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Does anybody use ERJGroupsSynchronizer?
> 
> I’m trying to synchronize two EOF stacks within a single VM. I don’t want the 
> synchronization to happen across application instances. 
> 
> The video from Mike Shrag from a WOWODC conference said it can be single VM 
> or across VM. I’m interested in the single VM but have not yet figured out 
> how to do it. 
> 
> Basically, I have a background task doing work on a separate EOF stack and I 
> want the changes to reflect on the EOF stack used by the user interface 
> without resorting to fetching. 
> 
> Thanks for any help
> 
> Ricardo Parada
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Re: Wrong SQL when joining in an OR-part of the qualifier

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I have only worked with Oracle and Postgresql. Any time I have a problem like 
this, I create a view on the database that does half the query. Or in your 
case, the ‘view’ could do all the heavy lifting.

It’s an idea.

Ted



> On Feb 14, 2022, at 1:13 AM, ocs--- via Webobjects-dev 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> lately, I am encountering wrong fetches (with FrontBase, if important). I log 
> out my qualifier and SQL, and the gist of the problem is a join in the 
> OR-part of the qualifier. I want to fetch rows where there's an empty 
> attribute, OR when there's a specific join:
> 
> 06:52:06.510 DEBUG -> ((savedPresentationEndDate = null) or 
> (lastValidPriceOfferCache.user = (model.DBUser)'[rc/Registration 
> centre#104]'))
> 
> Alas, SQL-level, it boils down to something entirely different:
> 
> 06:52:06.535 DEBUG "DBAuction"@318794136 expression took 1 ms: SELECT ... 
> FROM "T_AUCTION" t0, "T_PRICE_OFFER" T1 WHERE (T1."C_CREATOR_ID" = 104 OR 
> t0."C_PRESENTATION_END_DATE" is NULL) AND t0."C_LAST_VALID_PRICE_OFFER_CACHE" 
> = T1."C_UID"
> 
> The SQL generator properly sets up the OR checking the right target PK, but 
> then, instead of placing the join into the OR-part where it belongs to, it 
> forces the join absolute to the entire condition — even to the NULL-check 
> which should be completely independent.
> 
> That self-evidently is not what I need here: if t0."C_PRESENTATION_END_DATE" 
> is NULL, I want to fetch the row regardless of whatever vaue there is or is 
> not in the C_LAST_VALID_PRICE_OFFER_CACHE foreign key. Actually, if there 
> happens to be NULL in C_PRESENTATION_END_DATE, I would prefer if the 
> SQL-level would not try to join at all, for it is self-evidently superfluous. 
> I've tried manually
> 
> SELECT * FROM "T_AUCTION" t0, "T_PRICE_OFFER" T1 WHERE 
> (t0."C_PRESENTATION_END_DATE" is NULL) OR (T1."C_CREATOR_ID" = 104 AND 
> t0."C_LAST_VALID_PRICE_OFFER_CACHE" = T1."C_UID")
> 
> which is what, I  believe, the SQL generator should have created from the 
> qualifier, and it seems to work (at least, it produces no error; I cannot 
> easily check whether the rows returned are OK. but they seem to t the first 
> look).
> 
> Can perhaps anybody see how to fix the problem? (But for by generating 
> directly my SQL at the application level, which I can do if need be, but 
> would rather not, unless really the only way.)
> 
> Thanks,
> OC
> 
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New WO Install on Monterey

[Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev]

I am trying to install WO on a new M1 machine. I am having a problem with 
assigning the build path.

I have the wonder source at ~/Developer/WonderSource/…

I create a new WO app. I right click this new app and get and select Configure 
Build Path. The whole section on the right, “Add Jars”, “Add External Jars”, 
“Add Variable”, “Add Library”, etc… is grey. I cannot “Add Library”.

As an aside, if I try to install the app with ant, I get an error The framework 
name “ERExtensions” does not exist

Anyone have any ideas?

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Re: Single thread creation queue?

[Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev]

If I had the model and understood what you were looking for I might be able to 
figure it out.



> On Nov 24, 2021, at 3:17 PM, Jesse Tayler via Webobjects-dev 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Ted, actually I was looking to see how to make a compound constraint - 
> one static string type=“twitter” and I guess a lowercase version of a 
> user-entered display string keyStringToLowercase = username and the only way 
> I saw to add that into migrations was to write SQL and inject it?
> 
> But I did NOT know how to adjust those error strings! I have several 
> bothersome error reports so, you’ve opened my eyes! I’ll look into that 
> .strings key stuff there and see if I can figure that out. I might ping you 
> about it...
> 
>> On Nov 24, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Theodore Petrosky  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> An example of a migration:
>> Postgresql throws the exception then in ValidationException.strings I have:
>> {
>>   "UniqueConstraintException.login_idx" = "Please choose a different 
>> login (It must be unique).";
>> 
>>   "Quote.quoteAmount"="You must enter a dollar amount in the format 
>> 123.00 (you entered @@escapedValue@@)!";
>> 
>> }
>> To present readable error.
>> Is this what you are looking for?
>> 
>> ERXMigrationTable personTable = database.newTableNamed("Person");
>>  personTable.newFlagBooleanColumn("active", NOT_NULL);
>>  personTable.newLargeStringColumn("addressline1", ALLOWS_NULL);
>>  personTable.newLargeStringColumn("addressline2", ALLOWS_NULL);
>>  personTable.newLargeStringColumn("city", ALLOWS_NULL);
>>  personTable.newDateColumn("creationdate", NOT_NULL);
>>  personTable.newIntegerColumn("financialID", NOT_NULL);
>>  personTable.newLargeStringColumn("firstname", NOT_NULL);
>>  personTable.newIntegerColumn("id", NOT_NULL);
>>  personTable.newLargeStringColumn("lastname", NOT_NULL);
>>  personTable.newLargeStringColumn("login", ALLOWS_NULL);
>>  personTable.newLargeStringColumn("password", ALLOWS_NULL);
>>  personTable.newIntegerColumn("securityID", NOT_NULL);
>>  personTable.newLargeStringColumn("state", ALLOWS_NULL);
>>  personTable.newLargeStringColumn("zipcode", ALLOWS_NULL);
>>  personTable.create();
>>  personTable.setPrimaryKey("id");
>>  personTable.addIndex(new ERXMigrationIndex(
>> "login_idx", true 
>> ,new ColumnIndex("login")
>>  ));
>> 
>> 
>> From: "Ted Petrosky (WO)" 
>> Reply-To: Jesse Tayler 
>> Date: Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 9:41 AM
>> To: Samuel Pelletier 
>> Cc: "Ted Petrosky (WO)" 
>> Subject: Re: Single thread creation queue?
>> 
>> A collation would also work, I don’t think there’s a need to preserve case 
>> but I guess I have thus far and perhaps that’s an easier route than 
>> attempting to alter data in place, I could simply add the function in a way 
>> it can blend in perhaps.
>> 
>> I tried to find a decent wiki page, but does anyone have good examples of 
>> migrations that add constraints or do fancy stuff? 
>> 
>> Do I have to stuff raw SQL into a migration or are there functions I can’t 
>> see in there--
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 24, 2021, at 8:52 AM, Samuel Pelletier  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jesse,
>>> 
>>> If you specify a case insensitive collation for your column in the table, 
>>> you can preserve case and maintains case insensitive uniqueness. If you do 
>>> not know about collation, begin by reading on the subject, they basically 
>>> define how to compare and sort strings values.
>>> 
>>> Depending on the probability of duplicate and how you want to handle this 
>>> problem, you can try-catch or pre check before saving, you probably prefer 
>>> try-catch because it save a round-trip to the database. Tu use try-catch, 
>>> you need the contraint in the database though.
>>> 
>>> Samuel
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Le 24 nov. 2021 à 08:02, Jesse Tayler  a écrit :
>>>> 
>>>> so, basically, you are suggesting that I store them flat lowercase and put 
>>>> a constraint on these two strings and just lose any case the 

Re: Single thread creation queue?

[Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev]

An example of a migration:
Postgresql throws the exception then in ValidationException.strings I have:
{
   "UniqueConstraintException.login_idx" = "Please choose a different login 
(It must be unique).";

   "Quote.quoteAmount"="You must enter a dollar amount in the format 123.00 
(you entered @@escapedValue@@)!";

}
To present readable error.
Is this what you are looking for?


ERXMigrationTable personTable = database.newTableNamed("Person");

  personTable.newFlagBooleanColumn("active", NOT_NULL);

  personTable.newLargeStringColumn("addressline1", ALLOWS_NULL);

  personTable.newLargeStringColumn("addressline2", ALLOWS_NULL);

  personTable.newLargeStringColumn("city", ALLOWS_NULL);

  personTable.newDateColumn("creationdate", NOT_NULL);

  personTable.newIntegerColumn("financialID", NOT_NULL);

  personTable.newLargeStringColumn("firstname", NOT_NULL);

  personTable.newIntegerColumn("id", NOT_NULL);

  personTable.newLargeStringColumn("lastname", NOT_NULL);

  personTable.newLargeStringColumn("login", ALLOWS_NULL);

  personTable.newLargeStringColumn("password", ALLOWS_NULL);

  personTable.newIntegerColumn("securityID", NOT_NULL);

  personTable.newLargeStringColumn("state", ALLOWS_NULL);

  personTable.newLargeStringColumn("zipcode", ALLOWS_NULL);

  personTable.create();

  personTable.setPrimaryKey("id");

  personTable.addIndex(new ERXMigrationIndex(

 "login_idx", true

 ,new ColumnIndex("login")

  ));


From: "Ted Petrosky (WO)" 
Reply-To: Jesse Tayler 
Date: Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 9:41 AM
To: Samuel Pelletier 
Cc: "Ted Petrosky (WO)" 
Subject: Re: Single thread creation queue?

A collation would also work, I don’t think there’s a need to preserve case but 
I guess I have thus far and perhaps that’s an easier route than attempting to 
alter data in place, I could simply add the function in a way it can blend in 
perhaps.

I tried to find a decent wiki page, but does anyone have good examples of 
migrations that add constraints or do fancy stuff?

Do I have to stuff raw SQL into a migration or are there functions I can’t see 
in there--


On Nov 24, 2021, at 8:52 AM, Samuel Pelletier 
mailto:sam...@samkar.com>> wrote:

Jesse,

If you specify a case insensitive collation for your column in the table, you 
can preserve case and maintains case insensitive uniqueness. If you do not know 
about collation, begin by reading on the subject, they basically define how to 
compare and sort strings values.

Depending on the probability of duplicate and how you want to handle this 
problem, you can try-catch or pre check before saving, you probably prefer 
try-catch because it save a round-trip to the database. Tu use try-catch, you 
need the contraint in the database though.

Samuel


Le 24 nov. 2021 à 08:02, Jesse Tayler 
mailto:jtay...@oeinc.com>> a écrit :

so, basically, you are suggesting that I store them flat lowercase and put a 
constraint on these two strings and just lose any case the user entered which 
is fine I think.

With the lowercase assured the constraint will prevent duplicates and I’d catch 
that exception during creation and handle it


On Nov 24, 2021, at 12:19 AM, Samuel Pelletier 
mailto:sam...@samkar.com>> wrote:

If your usernames (or keyString) are case insensitive, store them in a 
normalized case (in lowercase for exemple).

You can add an overridden
public void setKeyString(String value) {
if (value != null) {
value = value.toLowerCase();
}
super.setKeyString(value);
}

You may also specify a collation to the column in the database if you want to 
preserve case but index and compare as case insensitive.

Samuel


Le 23 nov. 2021 à 17:26, Jesse Tayler via Webobjects-dev 
mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> a écrit 
:




On Nov 23, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Paul Hoadley 
mailto:pa...@logicsquad.net>> wrote:

Are you able to paste in some code? There's probably a solution, but this is 
getting a bit hard to follow in the abstract.


So, I fetch first

EOQualifier qual = 
DataPoint.TYPE.eq("twitter").and(DataPoint.KEY_STRING.likeInsensitive(username));

If there’s no EO, I create and save right away but at high volumes this CREATE 
statement must create only unique entries and those entries must match this 
qualifier which uses insensitive case

I figure the pattern should be to create an object with a DB level constraint 
such that a duplicate raises an error, upon catching that error, I can simply 
fetch again and return the one, single EO representing that record

When I tried regular constraints I did not see a way to replicate the required 
logic, so I found some advise about triggers and some other things I didn’t 
fully understand.

I realize usernames generally have this kind of issue, so I figure this is 

Java version Please!!!!

[Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev]

I am banging my head against the wall. 

Can someone who has recently set up a Mac (Big Sur) help me with the correct 
latest version of Java tha I can install. (Wonder 7.3)

I tried putting export of JAVA_HOME in .zshenv but it fails to ‘take’. I put it 
in .bash_profile and java -version is happy.

I am not understanding what is going on here with the switch to zsh.

When I start  the terminal I get:

The default interactive shell is now zsh.
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Re: Contribution ??

[Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev]

Maik,

Where invoices sent out? I would like to contribute but missed the invoice.

Let me know and I will send money.

Ted

> On Feb 9, 2021, at 11:05 AM, Maik Musall  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> we’re in business with a new developer, Stepan Zolotarev. Half of the 
> invoices have been paid, so we have funding ready for about 70-80 hours to 
> start. He’s now beginning work on updating the WOLips project to the latest 
> Eclipse platform. Anyone interested in detailed progress should probably show 
> up in the #wolips channel in our Slack community at wocommunity.slack.com 
> <http://wocommunity.slack.com/> (send me a note if you need an invite).
> 
> I’ll post periodic progress reports here too.
> 
> Maik
> 
> 
>> Am 01.02.2021 um 17:27 schrieb Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev 
>> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>>:
>> 
>> What happened to the contributions to update WOLips?
>> 
>> Ted
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What happened to the contributions to update WOLips?

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Re: Hello again

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Welcome home!




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Re: Install broken due to missing updated wocommunity repo resources

[Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev]

I can still log in and edit pages,. I think I was the last to update it to 
CenOS7.

Ted

> On Sep 1, 2020, at 1:28 PM, Robert Hanviriyapunt via Webobjects-dev 
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> Hi, just wanting to let everyone know that the instructions I found at:
> 
> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Installing+a+deployment+environment+on+RedHat%2C+CentOS+or+Amazon+Linux
>  
> 
> 
> Fails due to the wocommunity repo only having resources up to CenOS7 (my 
> install attempt today was looking for CenOS8).
> 
> Not sure how to get someone to update it.
> 
> I bypassed my initial issue by forcing it to look only at the CenOS7 path.  
> Not sure if this will end up working or not.  Just wanted to let people know 
> and either have someone update it or post new updated instructions.
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> Cheers.
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Re: New installation fail?

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i feel i should zip up my installer folder and send it. there were so many 
experiments. i was looking to create a script that would install everything and 
compile on the target EC box what was needed.

I got most of the way there. it still required some hand tweaking at the end.

the real issue is that it was so long ago in a solar system that doesn’t exist 
anymore

Ted

> On Sep 1, 2020, at 1:04 PM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
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> 
> Well, it seems I was able to find some decade old scripts that had a LOT of 
> important things in them all working at one time.
> 
> This fails in several ways like not finding this public S3 bucket or 
> dependencies and I figure other folks must rely on EC2/S3
> 
> I can make sure I script out whatever I eventually get working for it but me 
> thinks other folks are using something else or maintaining their instances 
> another way?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 1, 2020, at 1:00 PM, Theodore Petrosky  wrote:
>> 
>> All of my experiments revolved around compiling everything on the target 
>> machine.
>> 
>> I will look around for the link, but there is a section that has an 
>> installer script that is quite awesome.
>> 
>> Give me a little to look around.
>> 
>> Ted
>> 
>>> On Sep 1, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm launching a new EC2 Instance and just installing from scratch and I 
>>> found my way to this page
>>> 
>>> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Installing+a+deployment+environment+on+RedHat%2C+CentOS+or+Amazon+Linux
>>> 
>>> These WO installs all have bad links or dead services?
>>> 
>>> sudo yum install wotaskd
>>> sudo yum install womonitor
>>> sudo yum install woadaptor
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I notice there’s stuff here
>>> 
>>> https://packages.wocommunity.org/CentOS/latest/i386/
>>> 
>>> I'm not even certain I recall what CentOS is, I’m apparently on Amazon 
>>> Linux 2
>>> 
>>> Ok, so what’s the latest working method for updating an EC2 instance?
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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Re: New installation fail?

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All of my experiments revolved around compiling everything on the target 
machine.

I will look around for the link, but there is a section that has an installer 
script that is quite awesome.

Give me a little to look around.

Ted

> On Sep 1, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm launching a new EC2 Instance and just installing from scratch and I found 
> my way to this page
> 
> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Installing+a+deployment+environment+on+RedHat%2C+CentOS+or+Amazon+Linux
> 
> These WO installs all have bad links or dead services?
> 
> sudo yum install wotaskd
> sudo yum install womonitor
> sudo yum install woadaptor
> 
> 
> I notice there’s stuff here
> 
> https://packages.wocommunity.org/CentOS/latest/i386/
> 
> I'm not even certain I recall what CentOS is, I’m apparently on Amazon Linux 2
> 
> Ok, so what’s the latest working method for updating an EC2 instance?
> 
> 

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Re: How often do you bounce your apps?

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My apps upload pdfs. As Java keeps the temp file that was uploaded until the 
app that did the upload quits, I bounce my apps every night to clean things up.

Ted

> On Aug 5, 2020, at 10:37 AM, Ken Anderson via Webobjects-dev 
>  wrote:
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> I never bounce them - even with EOF ;)
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2020, at 07:07, Jesse Tayler via Webobjects-dev 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> What do you use to keep an eye on memory? JAVA has such an old-school 
>> approach with the VM I use AWS and really don’t have any good automated 
>> visualizing report on how instances or JAVA is running under the hood.
>> 
>> My apps seem to run for a long time as a few times my scheduler has failed 
>> and they racked up 10X or even 100X normal sessions, but who knows what the 
>> user patterns were really — I have had to increase my JAVA VM and set memory 
>> stuff from JavaMonitor to keep things sane.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 5, 2020, at 3:35 AM, Jérémy DE ROYER via Webobjects-dev 
>>> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Aaron,
>>> 
>>> (I’m still using EOF) and, for the main apps, I bounce every morning.
>>> 
>>> After updates I sometimes forget to activate the schedules without any 
>>> problems… but I’m used to do it in the pasts where I had a lot of meomry 
>>> leaks so I still do it.
>>> 
>>> Jérémy
>>> 
 Le 5 août 2020 à 00:04, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev 
 mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> a 
 écrit :
 
 Never. Uptime on my apps is usually weeks or months.
 
 Cycled regularly when I used EOF though. That thing leaks.
 
 - hugi
 
 
 
> On 4 Aug 2020, at 21:31, Aaron Rosenzweig via Webobjects-dev 
> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> 
> wrote:
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> Personally I feel better bouncing my .woa instances daily. Even if it is 
> a small site I have at least two instances and I gracefully cycle them on 
> a daily schedule. I feel better knowing that it is fresh every morning 
> for the new day. 
> 
> On the other hand, I could see an argument that a java app shouldn’t have 
> any memory leaks. The garbage collector should get everything. If it 
> cannot do so, then you’ve got something messed up in your app that you 
> should track down and rectify. So maybe it’s better to just leave your 
> .woa instances running forever until the next redeployment to get new 
> features. 
> 
> What does the community do? Do you cycle often (daily, twice per day, or 
> once per week) or do you leaving your instances running without a 
> scheduled restart? 
> 
> Thanks to all those who chime in :-)
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donating to update WOLips

[Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev]

is there a gofundme or other crowd source set up so I can donated to update 
WOLips?

It’s been talked about, but I haven’t seen anything. I would donate!!!

Ted
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Re: Back again....

[Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev]

Tony,

I am not saying I can fix this (as you are on  a linux distro), but if you want 
to connect with TeamViewer, I would be willing to look.

Let me know.

Ted

> On Feb 13, 2020, at 11:02 AM, Tony Giaccone via Webobjects-dev 
>  wrote:
> 
> WOLips is installed and the views are available.
> 
> When I create a new WOApp all the frameworks that it depends on are not 
> found. And I can’t compliment. 
> 
> I’m not at my workstation right now but when I am I’ll update with more 
> details.
> 
> 
> Tony
> 
>> On Feb 13, 2020, at 10:00 AM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 13, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Tony Giaccone via Webobjects-dev 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I used to do WebObjects dev back in the day. Now I’m just a little curious 
>>> to see where things stand in WOWorld.
>>> 
>> 
>> Outstanding!
>> 
>>> I’m building a simple one page master detail app and I wanted to compare a 
>>> few different frameworks and tech stacks. As part of that I thought I’d go 
>>> back to my roots and do a WO version.
>>> 
>>> But I am having trouble getting a working installation. I have a few 
>>> questions.
>>> 
>>> Can I do WODev on a Linux box? Is there a package to install on Ubuntu 
>>> 18.04? 
>>> 
>> 
>> I use Amazon linux, it’s pretty much just Java.
>> 
>>> I see that wolips is a thing and I have installed it locally in a copy of 
>>> eclipse 2019-12
>>> 
>>> Java 1.8? 
>>> 
>> 
>> Yes indeed
>> 
>>> I’ve tried using the instructions I’ve found on line using the WOInstaller 
>>> jar but I get a runtime exception.
>>> 
>>> I managed to get a copy of 5.4.3 and it seems to have installed but I can’t 
>>> create a new WOapp and not get problems with library references.  It looks 
>>> like something installed in /opt/Library. Any suggestions to verify my WO 
>>> package got installed correctly?
>>> 
>> 
>> Ok, well here’s where you are having trouble
>> 
>> Firstly, are you sure you have the WOLipse plugin working? Eclipse should 
>> have a specific look, eomodeler and layout options we like to use
>> 
>> And I’m thinking you can install your frameworks there, but I wonder if you 
>> know to specifically add each ER framework and whatever else you need in 
>> eclipse?
>> 
>> Verify those two issues and you might just be in luck - let us know.
>> 
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Re: Question re ERAttachment

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I have something similar;


Person to-many documentScans to-One theScan

there is an entity between the Person and the object to be uploaded.

You can keep all kinds of meta data in documentScans.

Ted

> On Dec 20, 2019, at 8:43 AM, Markus Ruggiero via Webobjects-dev 
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> Started to have a closer look at ERAttachment. Am a bit confused though. 
> There is a nice example in the package doc that explains how to attach an 
> avatar picture to a person. This is modelled as a Person toOne ERAttachment. 
> But what if a person has more than one image or document? This would then 
> require a Person toMany ERAttachments relationship and a foreign key personID 
> on ERAttachment. Is this kind of relationship allowed? Is ERAttachment able 
> to handle something like this? How would I find all the attachments for a 
> given Person?
> 
> Thanks for clarification.
> ---markus---
> 
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Re: Where are the SRPMs for mod_webobjects etc?

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i never saw an RPM for centos, I always just compiled my own in the OS instance.


> On Dec 2, 2019, at 11:54 AM, Rainer Duffner via Webobjects-dev 
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> Hi,
> 
> 
> we might need the source-RPMs to recompile the packages.
> 
> However, I found that they are not in place:
> 
> https://packages.wocommunity.org/CentOS/
> 
> All the SRPMS directories are empty!
> 
> 
> Does anyone know where they are?
> 
> 
> Best Regards
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Re: There was an old thread about Ajax...

[Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev]

do you think it would be possible to find someone that CAN do the work, and 
then set up a fund me instance so we could pay him/her?

I would put money into this if I thought there were others that would also add 
funds!

Ted

> On Oct 29, 2019, at 9:08 AM, Jesse Tayler via Webobjects-dev 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I recall something about show/hide but it’s fuzzy now.
> 
> I did however, conclude that we are all hosed!
> 
> The value of things like the AJAX list panel that can load up new batches or 
> a tab panel that reloads like magic?
> 
> These old Ajax frameworks have tricks to override rules in D2W so simply 
> adding the framework inserts itself into the interface frameworks beautifully.
> 
> Then I went into the AJAX frameworks to trace the code and found the group of 
> them to be deeply intertwined, and the code depends on long hierarchies of 
> those too-long-inheritance chains that we’ve all seen arise over time. You 
> just keep going into superviews and different WOD bindings until you are lost.
> 
> I strongly sense we’d have to quite literally rewrite a batch of related 
> frameworks -- and we’d have to be able to use the same code/D2W trickery to 
> make the new frameworks ride on top of our apps seamlessly.
> 
> However, it IS possible to do!
> 
> I wish I had a solution to this problem.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 8:57 AM, René Bock  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, you may use both frameworks,  prototyps.js and jQuery if you use 
>> jQuery in non-conflict mode (because both frameworks defines the variable $ 
>> as shortcut)
>> 
>> We had some additional issues when using the bootstrap framework, as 
>> prototypes.js add functions like show, hide, toggle to each element. 
>> 
>>> Am 29.10.2019 um 12:55 schrieb Jesse Tayler via Webobjects-dev 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> I have trouble with this as well, the older code conflicts with newer 
>>> jQuery based stuff.
>>> 
>>> So bad, that it will eventually stop your work because some bugs are 
>>> critical and you’ll not be able to work around them.
>>> 
>>> I’ve found that the code way back in those Ajax frameworks is indeed 
>>> amazing but also unreadable and unmaintainable.
>>> 
>>> In fact, I believe there is no way with our current resources that WO folks 
>>> will overcome this critical issue — our legacy is dragging us down.
>>> 
>>> If anyone can figure this out, or even has ideas or wants to try — I’m up 
>>> for it, but I’ve found myself that the weight is impossibly heavy.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 29, 2019, at 3:18 AM, Jérémy DE ROYER via Webobjects-dev 
  wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Log time ago (10/2014), there was an old thread around migrating ajax from 
 prototype to jquery as :
 - prototype is out of date
 - we « all » use jQuery to deal with ajax-front-end-requests
 
 There was a link to the work made by johnny miller 
 https://github.com/johnnykahalawai/wonder
 
 To deal with ajax-back-end-requests, we currently use :
 - AjaxModaDialog
 - AjaxUpdateContainer
 - AjaxUpdateLink
 - AjaxObserveField
 - AjaxSubmitButton
 - AjaxLongResponse
 
 How do you deal with Ajax ? Still use wonder with prototype ? Any new idea 
 ?
 
 Jérémy
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Re: Some Screencasts Unavailable

[Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev]

have you checked at the iTunes podcasts. I see there are 133 webobjects (WO) 
videos.

maybe what you want is there.

Ted



> On Oct 25, 2019, at 10:36 AM, Luiz Alfredo Carrara Bertusso via 
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> Hi guys,
> 
> I was trying to watch some introduction videos to generate some training 
> material, but some of the videos are not available. 
> 
> Their link is sending to my iCloud account, I assume that it is a permission 
> issue.
> 
> Would you guys agree with posting those videos on YouTube? I could help with 
> it.
> 
> The mentioned videos are here: 
> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/Screencasts 
> 
> 
> Thank you!
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Re: WOFielUpLoad - WebObjects Vs Project Wonder

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so you found this:
https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/WOFileUpload 


also if you are new to project Wonder, take a look at the videos here:
https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WOCOM/WOWODC+Conferences 


of course you can also find the podcasts in iTunesl at:  
https://www.wocommunity.org/podcasts/wopodcasts.xml 


hope this helps a little

I have only done file uploads in my D2W apps.

Ted

> On Sep 27, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Harjinder Singh via Webobjects-dev 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
>  
> We are introducing of project wonder into our project. We have a a problem 
> with WOFileUpLoad.
> We only have it in one of the screens and it stopped working. The app does 
> not provide any stack trace in the logs, the submit button after browse just 
> starts refreshing the page.
>  
> As stated in the following link 
> https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/WebObjects/Web_Applications/Development/Localization_and_Internationalization
>  
> 
> There are some issues with UTF-8 and WOFileUpload. We made the changes as 
> listed and also added the launch parameter. -WOUseLegacyMultipartParser true
>  
> So far no luck in fixing the issue.
>  
> WOFileUpload components works as intended without project wonder. Any help is 
> greatly appreciated.
>  
>  
> Here is the html and wod code.
>  
> HTML:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> WOD:
> attachForm: WOForm {
> multipleSubmit = true;
> enctype = "multipart/form-data";
> }
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Re: Modern instructions for setting up an environment?

[Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev]

did you try this:

https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/Project+Wonder+Installation 


Ted


> On Jul 25, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Matt Lee via Webobjects-dev 
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> I'm struggling to find modern instructions on setting up a dev
> environment. Lots of pages are out of date, broken links, etc.
> 
> Does anyone have a guide they use that they could point me to?
> 
> Best,
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Re: new version of EOModelGraph

[Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev]

it worked fine for me!!

both setting up an update site or downloading the zip!

Markus, did you set up the update site in Eclipse with the first URL?

> On Jun 5, 2019, at 11:04 AM, Jesse Tayler via Webobjects-dev 
>  wrote:
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> I get an error
> 
> 
> 
> You don't have permission to access….
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2019, at 11:00 AM, Markus Ruggiero via Webobjects-dev 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have updated the temporary Eclipse update site with the latest graphical 
>> editor for EOModels. At the same time I have issued a pull request to 
>> wocommity asking for integration into WOLips.
>> 
>> You can try out the editor by using this 
>> https://rucotec.ch/WOLips-EOModelGraph as your update site. The site works 
>> inside Eclipse but is not browsable via web browser. If you want to examine 
>> the stuff, just add .zip to above URL and download the site files 
>> (https://rucotec.ch/WOLips-EOModelGraph.zip)
>> 
>> Have fun
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confused

[Theodore Petrosky]

I was setting up a new machine with wo and wonder and I have something weird so 
I thought I would ask. When you invoke the ant build and install of the 
frameworks, where does ant get  its properties from? so:


this installed the frameworks at 
global.framework.web:
 [sync] Copying 5 files to 
/Library/WebServer/Documents/WebObjects/Frameworks/WOPayPal.framework/WebServerResources

cd ~/Repository/Wondersource
sudo ant -Duser.home=$HOME frameworks frameworks.install

I have a wolips.properties in my  ~/Library/Application\ Support/WOLips/

which has:

#Tue Feb 12 04:29:28 EST 2019
wo.api.root=/Developer/Documentation/DocSets/com.apple.ADC_Reference_Library.WebObjectsReference.docset/Contents/Resources/Documents/documentation/InternetWeb/Reference/WO542Reference
wo.apps.root=/Developer/WebObjects/Versions/WebObjects543/Library/WebObjects/Applications
wo.bootstrapjar=/System/Library/WebObjects/JavaApplications/wotaskd.woa/WOBootstrap.jar
wo.extensions=/Developer/WebObjects/Versions/WebObjects543/Library/WebObjects/Extensions
wo.local.frameworks=/Developer/WebObjects/Versions/WebObjects543/Library/Frameworks
wo.local.root=/Developer/WebObjects/Versions/WebObjects543
wo.network.frameworks=/Developer/WebObjects/Versions/WebObjects543/Library/WebObjects/Extensions
wo.network.root=/Network
wo.system.frameworks=/Developer/WebObjects/Versions/WebObjects543/System/Library/Frameworks
wo.system.root=/Developer/WebObjects/Versions/WebObjects543/System
wo.user.frameworks=/Users/asacksadmin/Library/Frameworks
wo.user.root=/Users/asacksadmin
wolips.properties=wolips.properties

This looks to point to /Developer/.etc etc
I thought ant took its properties from wolips.properties  above

why is ant installing in /Library/……..?


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Re: Advice on whether to upgrade Eclipse / WOLips from Eclipse Mars 4.5

[Theodore Petrosky]

BTW, are you using  DCEVM ?

it is only available to java .181 though

 
> On Feb 11, 2019, at 8:10 AM, John Pollard  wrote:
> 
> I have now realised the command line is the JDK and the plugin the JRE, have 
> now installed the JRE to the latest, sorry for the noise on the list.
> John
> 
>> On 11 Feb 2019, at 12:59, John Pollard > > wrote:
>> 
>> When I download Java from Oracle and install it, the one at the plugin path 
>> below is the one that is updated, not the version I pick up from the command 
>> line.
>> 
>>> On 11 Feb 2019, at 12:51, Jesse Tayler >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> One of those is for Safari?
>>> 
>>> Odd there are two incompatible so I guess you should iron that out, just 
>>> seems an odd configuration trouble…hmm…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 11, 2019, at 7:46 AM, John Pollard >>> > wrote:
 
 Aha, it seems I have some Java version issues.
 Sys Prefs, Java says I have v201 located at /Library/Internet 
 Plug-ins/JavaAppletPlugin/plugin/Contents/Home/bin/Java
 
 In the shell
 which java
 /usr/bin/java
 is a link to 
 /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/Current/Commands/java
 which is the older version and also the one Eclipse is picking up
 
 I will look at resolving the two versions.
 
 Thanks
 John
 
> On 11 Feb 2019, at 12:17, Dennis Bliefernicht 
>  > wrote:
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> Heya,
> 
>> On 11. Feb 2019, at 12:34, John Pollard > > wrote:
>> 
>> I installed 2018-12 but on attempting to add WOLips47 I received the 
>> following error:
>> 
>> Unable to read repository at 
>> https://jenkins.wocommunity.org/job/WOLips47/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/temp/dist/content.xml
>>  
>> .
>> sun.security.validator.ValidatorException: PKIX path building failed: 
>> sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to 
>> find valid certification path to requested target
>> 
>> Menu Eclipse -> About Eclipse -> Installation Details -> Configuration
>> java.runtime.version=1.8.0_60-b27
>> which I believe is up to date on my Mac
>> 
>> Any pointers to working round this?
> 
> Probably this is the Java version (1.8.0_60 seems to be from autumn 
> 2015); The JDK only included the required root certificates to accept 
> Let's Encrypt certificates (which jenkins.wocommunity.org 
>  uses) in 1.8.0_101 (mid 2016) so you 
> either need to update the JDK/JRE (probably just the latest Java 8 
> version) you use for running eclipse or you need to add the required root 
> certificates manually to the trust store of the installed JRE.
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Re: Advice on whether to upgrade Eclipse / WOLips from Eclipse Mars 4.5

[Theodore Petrosky]

What URL did you use to install WOLIPS from? This is what I used:

https://jenkins.wocommunity.org/job/WOLips47/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/temp/dist/

I just added this to the “Install New Software” section under the help menu.

Ted





> On Feb 11, 2019, at 6:34 AM, John Pollard  wrote:
> 
> I installed 2018-12 but on attempting to add WOLips47 I received the 
> following error:
> 
> Unable to read repository at 
> https://jenkins.wocommunity.org/job/WOLips47/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/temp/dist/content.xml
>  
> .
> sun.security.validator.ValidatorException: PKIX path building failed: 
> sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find 
> valid certification path to requested target
> 
> Menu Eclipse -> About Eclipse -> Installation Details -> Configuration
> java.runtime.version=1.8.0_60-b27
> which I believe is up to date on my Mac
> 
> Any pointers to working round this?
> 
> Thanks
> John
> 
>> On 9 Feb 2019, at 10:32, Paul Hoadley > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Samuel,
>> 
>> On 9 Feb 2019, at 5:11 am, Samuel Pelletier > > wrote:
>> 
>>> I just installed 2018-12 and it seems faster than 4.7. I have only one 
>>> problem to date, the "Add Key" function in the component editor no longer 
>>> works for me. I see the dialog, specify the type and click "Add" as usual. 
>>> The source editor come to front but the key is not added.
>>> 
>>> Adding an action still work though.
>>> 
>>> Are you experiencing the same problem ?
>> 
>> Yes. I can reproduce that. What a shame, that's a handy feature.
>> 
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Re: did I do something terrible???

[Theodore Petrosky]

So I have red Xs all over the place. I cleaned all projects, refreshed all. but 
I have red Xs with these warnings:

SRPHandler.java
import org.apache.commons.lang3.time.DateUtils;

CCDatepicker
import org.apache.commons.lang3.StringUtils;

ERAttachments
import org.apache.http.HttpException;

AjaxPingUpdate
import org.apache.commons.lang3.ObjectUtils;

the only thing I did was a git pull. Am I missing something. When I look in the 
library folder of CCDatepicker for instance there is no commons-lang jar.If 
I copy  commons-lang3-3.8.1.jarinto the library folder and add it to the 
build path, the red Xs go away.

What did I do wrong?

Ted


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> 
> Hi Ted,
> 
> the commons-text addition was by me. The previous lib update in master caused 
> classes like RandomStringUtils to become deprecated, but they still worked. 
> For me, nothing really broke, but I wanted to add that library to be able to 
> react to the deprecation.
> 
> The actual lang-3 update happened on Jan 8th by Johann, but 3.8.1 was added 
> (and 3.7 removed). So, it should be there, and everything should work (and 
> does for me).
> 
> If you use maven, it may be the case that you're affected by the outdated TLS 
> cert on maven.wocommunity.org <http://maven.wocommunity.org/>. Henrique is 
> already on it, I made some changes in the DNS just yesterday, which he 
> requested to change his setup so that cert expiration can be avoided in the 
> future.
> 
> Maik
> 
> 
>> Am 02.02.2019 um 21:52 schrieb Theodore Petrosky > <mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com>>:
>> 
>> Did I just do something stupid?? I updated my Wonder. I see that Johann 
>> Werner did an update on 1/31/19.
>> 
>> Immediately, nothing works. I started looking at the errors and the red 
>> checks in Wonder were saying that I was missing libraries. 
>> commons-lang3-3.8.1.jarso I started reading the comments in the app that 
>> I use to manage my git repository and sure enough I see reverences to things 
>> like:
>> 
>> Add apache commons-text because classes in commons.lang3.text became 
>> deprecated in favor of this
>> 
>> Is this update too hot to handle? Has anyone else done this update and had 
>> problems like this?
>> 
>> did I do something dumb?
>> 
>> I want to play too, ya know.
>> 
>> Ted
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did I do something terrible???

[Theodore Petrosky]

Did I just do something stupid?? I updated my Wonder. I see that Johann Werner 
did an update on 1/31/19.

Immediately, nothing works. I started looking at the errors and the red checks 
in Wonder were saying that I was missing libraries. commons-lang3-3.8.1.jar
so I started reading the comments in the app that I use to manage my git 
repository and sure enough I see reverences to things like:

Add apache commons-text because classes in commons.lang3.text became deprecated 
in favor of this

Is this update too hot to handle? Has anyone else done this update and had 
problems like this?

did I do something dumb?

I want to play too, ya know.

Ted
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Re: Deployment script

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or=WOClassicAdaptor, java.vm.info <http://java.vm.info/>=mixed mode, 
>> er.extensions.JavaWOExtensions.hasLocalization=false, 
>> java.class.version=55.0, WOAdaptorURL=http://localhost/cgi-bin/WebObjects 
>> <http://localhost/cgi-bin/WebObjects>, 
>> awt.toolkit=sun.lwawt.macosx.LWCToolkit, sun.jnu.encoding=UTF-8, 
>> _DeploymentDebugging=false, WOMonitorEnabled=false, 
>> com.webobjects.eoaccess.ERXEntityDependencyOrderingDelegate.active=false, 
>> WOMulticastAddress=239.128.14.2, 
>> er.extensions.ERXRaiseOnMissingEditingContextDelegate=true, 
>> er.extensions.ERXSharedEOLoader.PatchSharedEOLoading=false, 
>> WOAllowsCacheControlHeader=true, 
>> er.extensions.ERXPatcher.cleanupXHTML=false, 
>> log4j.appender.A1.layout.ConversionPattern=%d %-5p %V{u/f} [%t] %C{2} 
>> (%F:%L) - %m%n, 
>> er.extensions.ERXDatabase.className=er.extensions.eof.ERXDatabase, 
>> er.extensions.load.Properties.framework.ERExtensions=load, file.separator=/, 
>> java.vm.compressedOopsMode=Zero based, line.separator=
>> , WOIncludeCommentsInResponse=false, WORespondsToMulticastQuery=false , 
>> WODefaultUndoStackLimit=10, 
>> WOApplicationClass=com.webobjects.monitor.wotaskd.Application, 
>> WOLaunchdEnabled=false, er.extensions.ERXWOForm.multipleSubmitDefault=true, 
>> WOWorkerThreadCountMax=256, user.name=_appserver, _AjaxRequestHandlerKey=ja, 
>> er.extensions.ERRest.hasLocalization=false, 
>> er.extensions.ERXPatcher.suppressValueBindingSlow=false, 
>> WOSessionStoreClassName=WOServerSessionStore, WOGenerateWSDL=true, 
>> WOSavesAdaptorConfiguration=false, _WOSessionReclaimingInterval=60, 
>> sun.os.patch.level=unknown, 
>> er.extensions.ERXLocalizer.availableLanguages=(English,German,Japanese), 
>> log4j.appender.A1=org.apache.log4j.ConsoleAppender, WOListenQueueSize=128, 
>> WOMissingResourceSearchEnabled=false, 
>> socksNonProxyHosts=local|*.local|169.254/16|*.169.254/16, 
>> gopherProxySet=false, _WOHTMLParserClassName=WOHTMLTemplateParser, 
>> WOCachingEnabled=true, 
>> er.extensions.stackTrace.skipPatternsFile=StackTraceSkipPatterns-Normal.plist,
>>  java.class.path=WOBootstrap.jar, java.vm.vendor=Oracle Corporation, 
>> WOPort=1085, _ResourceRequestHandlerKey=wr, sun.java.launcher=SUN_STANDARD, 
>> user.country=US, sun.cpu.endian=little, WOLifebeatDestinationPort=1085, 
>> user.language=en, WOMaxSocketIdleTime=18, 
>> WOStatisticsStoreSessionMax=50, WOApplicationBaseURL=/WebObjects, 
>> WOAutoOpenClientApplication=false, 
>> ftp.nonProxyHosts=local|*.local|169.254/16|*.169.254/16, 
>> WOLifebeatInterval=30, java.runtime.name=Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment, 
>> WOWorkerThreadCount=8, WOLifebeatEnabled=false, 
>> java.vendor.url.bug=http://bugreport.java.com/bugreport/ 
>> <http://bugreport.java.com/bugreport/>, 
>> user.dir=/usr/local/opt/WODeployment/wotaskd.woa, 
>> er.extensions.ERXGracefulShutdown.Enabled=false, 
>> _WebServiceRequestHandlerKey=ws, java.vm.version=11.0.1+13-LTS, 
>> er.extensions.ERXLocalizer.isLocalizationEnabled=true, 
>> er.extensions.ERXComponentActionRedirector.enabled=false, 
>> _StreamActionRequestHandlerKey=wis}
>> 
>>> On Dec 9, 2018, at 10:12 AM, Jeffrey Schmitz >> <mailto:jeff.schm...@netbrackets.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Ted,
>>>   I’m giving it a look and already have a question.  I downloaded the 
>>> hypervisor, but I’m not sure what to do with it.  I’m thinking I need 
>>> another program to manage the VMs, but I don’t know what that is.  I’m sure 
>>> this is a very basic question, but it’s the stuff you get stuck on when 
>>> looking at anything new.
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 9, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Theodore Petrosky >>> <mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> i was the same way. if you want help, just ask. Getting away from OSX for 
>>>> deployment is really the way to go. Apple does an update, and you are 
>>>> screwed!
>>>> 
>>>> Here are the setps:
>>>> 1. create an account at vmware.
>>>> 2. dowload the free esxi, and burn it to a dvd
>>>> 
>>>> you actually wipe out the osx installation and the mac mini is taken over 
>>>> by esxi!
>>>> 
>>>> of course you could also experiment with Amazon Web Services. you can 
>>>> create a free account that you can learn the ropes with. (it’s free for 
>>>> one year)
>>>> 
>>>> I have done both.
>>>> 
>>>> AWS of course has it’s advantages.
>>&

Re: Deployment script

[Theodore Petrosky]

i was the same way. if you want help, just ask. Getting away from OSX for 
deployment is really the way to go. Apple does an update, and you are screwed!

Here are the setps:
1. create an account at vmware.
2. dowload the free esxi, and burn it to a dvd

you actually wipe out the osx installation and the mac mini is taken over by 
esxi!

of course you could also experiment with Amazon Web Services. you can create a 
free account that you can learn the ropes with. (it’s free for one year)

I have done both.

AWS of course has it’s advantages.

JMHO BTW

Ted

> On Dec 9, 2018, at 10:59 AM, Jeffrey Schmitz  
> wrote:
> 
> Fear of the unknown vs. the enemy I know :-)
> 
>> On Dec 9, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Theodore Petrosky > <mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have to ask. why do you want to bang your head against a wall to use OSX? 
>> Vmware esxi is free, allows you to put a linux distro on a mac mini 
>> (multiple instances if you want). I use this in the office to have multiple 
>> centos instances on a mac mini. one is for postgresql and the other is for 
>> apache. It works great and you can use YUM for updates.
>> 
>> Ted
>> 
>> https://www.vmware.com/products/esxi-and-esx.html 
>> <https://www.vmware.com/products/esxi-and-esx.html>
>> 
>>> On Dec 9, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Jeffrey Schmitz >> <mailto:jeff.schm...@netbrackets.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks guys,
>>>I’ll definitely look these over, they look great.  I had a quick 
>>> question/verification.  I’m using Mac OS right now and a quick google 
>>> indicates no apt-get or yum for OS/X.  Just want to verify I’ll need to use 
>>> home-brew or macports for that instead, is that correct?
>>> 
>>> Btw, I’d love to get off MacOS for deployment but up to now it’s been the 
>>> path of least resistance.   I’m thinking these scripts may change the 
>>> equation for me.
>>> 
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 9, 2018, at 5:30 AM, Theodore Petrosky >>> <mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Jeffrey,
>>>> 
>>>> Read the wo-install.sh that is referenced here! it will tell you 
>>>> everything you need to create your deployment environment. if you are on 
>>>> an OS X box, there is no wget. you need to change that to curl. However 
>>>> curl is a little different, it needs to know where to put the file so:
>>>> 
>>>> wget https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/webobjects/JavaMonitor.tgz 
>>>> <https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/webobjects/JavaMonitor.tgz> 
>>>> --no-check-certificate
>>>> becomes
>>>> curl https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/webobjects/JavaMonitor.tgz 
>>>> <https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/webobjects/JavaMonitor.tgz> 
>>>> >JavaMonitor.tgz 
>>>> 
>>>> I have linked to my version of the install script:  
>>>> http://ftp.agencysacks.com/_Y9AkYUkQgVtlwR 
>>>> <http://ftp.agencysacks.com/_Y9AkYUkQgVtlwR>
>>>> 
>>>> compare my script to:  http://webobjects.s3.amazonaws.com/wo-install.sh 
>>>> <http://webobjects.s3.amazonaws.com/wo-install.sh>
>>>> 
>>>> My script installed git, and a newer version of Java (jdk1.8.0_131)
>>>> 
>>>> at the time, I was installing on a centos instance hosted at Amazon. I am 
>>>> not sure is this is the final version of the script. sorry. but it should 
>>>> get you thinking about what you can do.
>>>> 
>>>> Ted
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 8, 2018, at 11:38 PM, Paul Hoadley >>>> <mailto:pa...@logicsquad.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 9 Dec 2018, at 12:31 pm, Jeffrey Schmitz >>>> <mailto:jeff.schm...@netbrackets.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> But I’m setting up a machine to use for deployment, not deploying an 
>>>>>> individual app, so I need to get apache configured, the WO adaptor 
>>>>>> installed, the webobjects tools installed (wotaskd, womonitor), etc.  
>>>>>> That’s what I was hoping the script would help with as it always turns 
>>>>>> out to be a laborious process, at least for me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You're right, it is laborious, sometimes difficult to get right, and 
>>>>> ideal for scripting to automate for the future. What platform

Re: Deployment to osx 10.14 Mojave

[Theodore Petrosky]

did you check any of these:

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/44981521/homebrew-php-7-1-macos-sierra-apache-syntax-error
 


this person found a workaround for another program, it may work here!

https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2551418 






> On Nov 25, 2018, at 11:24 AM, Stavros Panidis  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I try to setup a server running os x 10.14 Mojave following instructions of 
> Markus Ruggiero (Learning the Wonders)
> 
> Wotaskd and JavaMonitor run and I can access JavaMonitor on localhost:56789. 
> Also instances of my application seem to run in JavaMonitor. But when I try 
> to access my application I get the error
> 
> ‘Safari can’t connect to the server.’
> 
> When I try apachectl configtest I get the following 
> 
> Syntax error on line 546 of /private/etc/apache2/httpd.conf: Syntax error on 
> line 1 of /Library/WebObjects/Adaptors/wo_apache.conf: Cannot load 
> /Library/WebObjects/Adaptors/mod_WebObjects.so into server: 
> dlopen(/Library/WebObjects/Adaptors/mod_WebObjects.so, 10): no suitable image 
> found.  Did find:\n\t/Library/WebObjects/Adaptors/mod_WebObjects.so: code 
> signature in (/Library/WebObjects/Adaptors/mod_WebObjects.so) not valid for 
> use in process using Library Validation: mapped file has no cdhash, 
> completely unsigned? Code has to be at least ad-hoc 
> signed.\n\t/Library/WebObjects/Adaptors/mod_WebObjects.so: stat() failed with 
> errno=22
> 
> 
> As far as I can understand something is going wrong with mod_WebObjects.so (I 
> used the same file downloaded and used successfully in OS X High Sierra). Is 
> there a version compiled for Mojave or something else ?
> 
> Many thanks in advance
> 
> Stavros
> 
> Stavros Panidis
> stavros.pani...@gmail.com 
> 
> 
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Re: Re: Interested in Modern UI Kits, like Bootstrap?

[Theodore Petrosky]

OK i got it to work!!

100 : pageConfiguration = 'InspectTalent' => displayPropertyKeys = 
("firstName", "lastName", "moviesDirected", "photo.photo", "roles") 
[com.webobjects.directtoweb.Assignment]

100 : (pageConfiguration = 'InspectTalent' and propertyKey = 'photo.photo') => 
componentName = "ERD2WDisplayImage" [com.webobjects.directtoweb.Assignment]

100 : (pageConfiguration = 'InspectTalent' and propertyKey = 'photo.photo') => 
imageMimeType = "image/jpeg" [com.webobjects.directtoweb.Assignment]

100 : (pageConfiguration = 'InspectTalent' and propertyKey = 'photo.photo') => 
imageWidth = "250" [com.webobjects.directtoweb.Assignment]

put a jpeg in the root  of your database and insert it into the database with:

update talentphoto set photo = pg_read_binary_file('IMG_0179.JPG') where 
talent_id = 87;

87 is Harrison Ford and is the first

update talentphoto set photo = pg_read_binary_file('IMG_0179.JPG') where 
talent_id = 3;

3 is  ('Macaulay', 'Culkin', 3);

at least you can display images.


> On Oct 26, 2018, at 12:22 PM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
> 
> No idea, but I’d guess we should be able to put blobs in the migration 
> somehow.
> 
> Are you able to upload a photo to a Talent? Try that and see if it works, if 
> you can save, then we can update the migrations I’m sure.
> 
> We could call images from a free photo site -- perhaps fetch the data or even 
> use the URLs
> 
> https://www.stockfreeimages.com/36682352/Orange-kitten-lie-on-the-bed.html
> 
> Having the model and whatever outside the app is cool for showing how 
> frameworks can be shared. (I guess the Movie Rentals app uses the same model 
> framework) However, it is also sorta of complicated for a demo app.
> 
> See if you can upload a photo image somehow using another database type and 
> we’ll see what’s reasonable to do here.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Theodore Petrosky  wrote:
>> 
>> No, No blobs :(
>> 
>> I was looking to see if we could upload some blobs in a migration.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2018, at 11:56 AM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hmm — are there blobs in it?
>>> 
>>> We just want a demo environment that people can unpack and just read/\write.
>>> 
>>> BTW, I guess I used this database or perhaps worked on the team while it 
>>> was being built? I don’t know but I see the unusual name of a childhood 
>>> friend in the Talent and I surely put that in years ago either at my desk 
>>> and the file is still being used - or I guess I worked on this project 
>>> before the files got frozen in time.
>>> 
>>> I also see a LOT of stuff from NetStruxr (a dot-bomb I once worked on) 
>>> —this is I guess the “ER” named things come from — a terrible app but a 
>>> really good team of smart D2W thinking people.
>>> 
>>> When we realized we were going out of business, we started to “open source” 
>>> the code which was a way to pass it on to our future selves more than 
>>> anything!
>>> 
>>> Anyway, apparently this code from NetStruxr was used to start Wonder, I’d 
>>> guess very early 2001 or so…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 26, 2018, at 10:46 AM, Theodore Petrosky  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> BTW, I spent about 5 minutes and shifted the db to postgresql. I know you 
>>>> use MySQL but it should be about the same.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 26, 2018, at 8:37 AM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ha, well, that’s a good sleuthing job there Ted
>>>>> 
>>>>> And that sounds about right, no blobs..sigh.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would LOVE to adapt the really old, outdated file upload UI — There’s a 
>>>>> nice looking file browser input widget we could support drag+drop or at 
>>>>> least do some handling up the upload progress or something.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’d also like to better test the new, fancy Card and Carousel objects 
>>>>> which of course rely on a set of URLs - as you can see, I canned the 
>>>>> image for each movie to the same URL...
>>>>> 
>>>>> I wonder if there is any reasonably easy way to set up and test images 
>>>>> here?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ted? Could we use a different DB?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Or maybe I should alter the model and hold an image URL and we can use 
>>>>> images we find around for testing…
>>>

Re: Re: Interested in Modern UI Kits, like Bootstrap?

[Theodore Petrosky]

ok so we just need to figure out a little more!!

this is a postgresql backend. we know that photo of talentphoto is a blob of 
type bytea.

insert into talentphoto(talent_id, photo) values (3, 
pg_read_binary_file('IMG_0179.JPG'));

pg_read_binary_file will read a binary file that lives in the root of the 
server. you can not give it a path. there must be a proc of postgresql that 
accepts a full path but that is not the issue. that sql will load the file into 
the database!

so for the test, I can upload a jpg into the backend. I cannot get it to 
display.

talk tomorrow.


> On Oct 26, 2018, at 12:22 PM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
> 
> No idea, but I’d guess we should be able to put blobs in the migration 
> somehow.
> 
> Are you able to upload a photo to a Talent? Try that and see if it works, if 
> you can save, then we can update the migrations I’m sure.
> 
> We could call images from a free photo site -- perhaps fetch the data or even 
> use the URLs
> 
> https://www.stockfreeimages.com/36682352/Orange-kitten-lie-on-the-bed.html
> 
> Having the model and whatever outside the app is cool for showing how 
> frameworks can be shared. (I guess the Movie Rentals app uses the same model 
> framework) However, it is also sorta of complicated for a demo app.
> 
> See if you can upload a photo image somehow using another database type and 
> we’ll see what’s reasonable to do here.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Theodore Petrosky  wrote:
>> 
>> No, No blobs :(
>> 
>> I was looking to see if we could upload some blobs in a migration.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2018, at 11:56 AM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hmm — are there blobs in it?
>>> 
>>> We just want a demo environment that people can unpack and just read/\write.
>>> 
>>> BTW, I guess I used this database or perhaps worked on the team while it 
>>> was being built? I don’t know but I see the unusual name of a childhood 
>>> friend in the Talent and I surely put that in years ago either at my desk 
>>> and the file is still being used - or I guess I worked on this project 
>>> before the files got frozen in time.
>>> 
>>> I also see a LOT of stuff from NetStruxr (a dot-bomb I once worked on) 
>>> —this is I guess the “ER” named things come from — a terrible app but a 
>>> really good team of smart D2W thinking people.
>>> 
>>> When we realized we were going out of business, we started to “open source” 
>>> the code which was a way to pass it on to our future selves more than 
>>> anything!
>>> 
>>> Anyway, apparently this code from NetStruxr was used to start Wonder, I’d 
>>> guess very early 2001 or so…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 26, 2018, at 10:46 AM, Theodore Petrosky  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> BTW, I spent about 5 minutes and shifted the db to postgresql. I know you 
>>>> use MySQL but it should be about the same.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 26, 2018, at 8:37 AM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ha, well, that’s a good sleuthing job there Ted
>>>>> 
>>>>> And that sounds about right, no blobs..sigh.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would LOVE to adapt the really old, outdated file upload UI — There’s a 
>>>>> nice looking file browser input widget we could support drag+drop or at 
>>>>> least do some handling up the upload progress or something.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’d also like to better test the new, fancy Card and Carousel objects 
>>>>> which of course rely on a set of URLs - as you can see, I canned the 
>>>>> image for each movie to the same URL...
>>>>> 
>>>>> I wonder if there is any reasonably easy way to set up and test images 
>>>>> here?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ted? Could we use a different DB?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Or maybe I should alter the model and hold an image URL and we can use 
>>>>> images we find around for testing…
>>>>> 
>>>>> In my apps, I upload photos that get put in S3 buckets and scripts make 
>>>>> thumbnails and finally, I generate URLs based on the key ID and bucket 
>>>>> path but this takes like 20 steps to set up!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thoughts on how a modern app can test file uploads and photos?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 26, 2018, at 8:

Re: Interested in Modern UI Kits, like Bootstrap?

[Theodore Petrosky]

interesting I just created a little test and I found that if I put the 
ERXStyleShhet in the WOD it worked but not inline!

try using the WOD



BootstrapCSS : ERXStyleSheet {
filename = "ermod-overrides.css";
framework = "BootstrapModernLook";
}


> On Oct 17, 2018, at 10:01 AM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Ok, I have the ERModernMoviesDemo app running and linked to the new framework.
> 
> I notice my rules and components are working, but the css overrides is not 
> loading??
> 
>   "ermod-overrides.css" />
> 
> 
> It’s almost like ERXStyleSheet isn’t working or something?
> 
> This seems fine in my other app — how are folks loading in framework based 
> css files?
> 
> I see a stylesheet injector which seems to accept only the sheets listed in a 
> rule from the modern look...
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 17, 2018, at 9:23 AM, lists.fab...@e-lumo.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jesse,
>> 
>> That does indeed look suspicious, so it might be the space in the username.
>> 
>> Fabian
>> 
>>> Am 17.10.2018 um 13:41 schrieb Jesse Tayler :
>>> 
>>> Hi Fabian
>>> 
>>> I’m guessing this might be related to the fact that Migration Assistant 
>>> once assisted me and kindly created a new home folder with a jtayler 1 in 
>>> it…yes, including the space…
>>> 
>>> So, I have had to do some local stuff and likely should break down and just 
>>> change my home dir in the UNIX system so I can go on with my post-migration 
>>> life.
>>> 
>>> What does this error suggest?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> BUILD FAILED
>>> /Users/jtayler 1/Downloads/Archive/ERModernMoviesDemo/build.xml:7: The 
>>> following error occurred while executing this line:
>>> Error reading project file /Users/jtayler 1/Build/build/build.xml: 
>>> /Users/jtayler 1/Build/build/build.xml
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 17, 2018, at 1:57 AM, Fabian Peters  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Jesse,
>>>> 
>>>> Can you show a bit more of the stacktrace please?
>>>> 
>>>> Fabian
>>>> 
>>>>> Am 16.10.2018 um 21:29 schrieb Jesse Tayler :
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ted-
>>>>> 
>>>>> Oh, that’s great — that would be perfect because you could compare things 
>>>>> easily and I can show some modern D2W ideas that are useful
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am able to find and import the app and try to run it, it locks up after 
>>>>> launch and listing SQL although I don’t know where from — ???
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyway, it gets into an infinite loop that throws the stack until you run 
>>>>> out of memory.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is this perhaps because I’m not configured right or because I have not 
>>>>> built a dependency perhaps?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>   at 
>>>>> com.webobjects.appserver._private.WODeployedBundle._newPreloadAllResourcesInSubDirectory(WODeployedBundle.java:297)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 16, 2018, at 2:59 PM, Theodore Petrosky  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Weird, ERModernMoviesDemo with ERMoviesLogic work just fine for me! I 
>>>>>> just compiled it and ran it to make sure!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It would be nice to start with this demo as it is set up to to all the 
>>>>>> different migrations for Postgresql, MySQL, Derby, H2. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ERMovies worked fine also.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 16, 2018, at 2:06 PM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Movies was a nice simple model that if I had migrations or in-memory it 
>>>>>>> would allow me to render some D2W data rather than just present some 
>>>>>>> HTML.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I can add a simple app next to the framework and we can figure if 
>>>>>>> Movies or something else is easy to put in there.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Oct 16, 2018, at 2:03 PM, Tim Worman  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If my m

Re: Interested in Modern UI Kits, like Bootstrap?

[Theodore Petrosky]

Jesse,

of course!!!


Ted



> On Oct 15, 2018, at 2:04 PM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
> 
> Hi All
> 
> Anyone interested in modern UI kits like Bootstrap & Shards with WO?
> 
> Robert Hanna and I, have started a very simple framework migrating Bootstrap 
> stuff out of an app. Stuff people might find really useful —Beautiful 
> table-free list-views, fantastic looking forms with all modern input tagging, 
> sliders and date pickers that all support modern inline icons (Material and 
> FontAwesome) plus random things like alerts nav bars etc.
> 
> Read along down this page to see UI examples
> 
> https://designrevision.com/demo/shards/ 
> 
> 
> One D2W rule sets up a "Card" with a dictionary that configures any of the 
> many different options. Display a top or bottom image, have a button, make 
> the button square, outlined or primary-btn styled etc. Add a footer, body, 
> title… The rules include all the keys you'll find in Bootstrap/Shards css 
> tags as part of a D2W configuration.
> 
> 
> You can have crazy cool class tags: 
> 
>   objectCardColumnClass = "col-sm-6 col-md col-lg-3 pb-4”. 
> 
> Which makes a dynamic grid that displays on tiny or giant screens.
> 
> https://designrevision.com/docs/shards/cards.html 
> 
> 
> This one rule here sets up a card and configures each option you see in the 
> attached:
> 
> cardSectionsContents =  
> {
>   "card-img-top" = "object.imageURL"; 
>   "card-link" = "object.publicURLString"; 
>   "card-text" = "object.title"; 
>   "card-title" = "object.venue.title"; 
>   "cardLInkTitle" = "Tell me more "; 
>   "cardLinkClass" = "btn btn-primary";
> }
> 
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Re: D2W

[Theodore Petrosky]

Emre,

First, anything is possible!!!

In PW, a create page is ERMODWizardCreationPage. If you look in Project Wonder, 
you will find the source for this page in ERModernLook. Examine this 
carefully!! This is your documentation.

Look at this source!!! you will see how the buttons that are there are created! 
You will see the different booleans that are used to turn the button on and off.

There have been times when I want to add something to a template that doesn’t 
exist.  I clone the template (in this case ERMODWizardCreationPage cloning it 
into TPMODWizardCreationPage) and add what I want to this new page. Then create 
a rule that uses my new page as the creation page for this situation.

100 : pageConfiguration = ‘' => 
templateNameForWizardCreationPage = "TPMODWizardCreationPage" [Assignment]

Use the source as a guide. I am not saying this is the only way, but it has 
worked for me.

Ted

> On Mar 21, 2018, at 10:40 AM, e...@hacilar.ch wrote:
> 
> Yes I'm working with Project Wonder on a D2W Application. On the 
> PageConfigurations Edit and Create
> there are 2 Buttons on the Bottom.
> I need to add some additional functionality to those Buttons. Do you know if 
> this is possible?
> 
> Am 21.03.2018 15:24, schrieb Theodore Petrosky:
>> are you using Project Wonder? The way you word your question makes me
>> think you are not using Wonder.
>> Ted
>>> On Mar 21, 2018, at 10:14 AM, e...@hacilar.ch wrote:
>>> Hi Theodore
>>> For Example on a Create, on the Bottom of the Page there are 2 Buttons from 
>>> D2W.
>>> Once the Cancel Button, and once the Save Button.
>>> I need to access those Buttons, to do my custom stuff.
>>> Emre

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Re: Date - time picker

[Theodore Petrosky]

I am sure that everyone here understands this and I am just ignorant, but what 
do you mean, “Bootstrap date time picker”?

Ted

> On Oct 13, 2017, at 9:30 AM, Stavros Panidis  
> wrote:
> 
> Dear,
> 
> I try to implement Bootstrap date time picker style in a WOComponent. 
> Javascript and css works fine except the case that in this component the is 
> also a AjaxUpdateContainer (which I certainly need for other controls).
> 
> I tried also with AjaxDatePicker which works fine but I don’t know if it is 
> possible to apply bootstrap styling on this.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Stavros
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Re: Display database content on a page

[Theodore Petrosky]

"Learning the Wonders" is the best book to start with. The author uses that 
book in classes he teaches (I believe in Germany).

I would recommend that book to start with over the others that are available.

All of the videos are available in the iTunes podcasts. I know the other links 
sometimes don’t work.

Use the iTunes podcasts. go to podcasts, then select Store, then search for 
WebObjects.

I know you mentioned that you viewed the two chapters of Leaning the Wonders. 
It really gets going after that.

Ted



> On Oct 5, 2017, at 3:31 PM, Chuck Hill <ch...@gevityinc.com> wrote:
> 
> Here is a good place to start:
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/Learning-Wonders-Markus-Ruggiero-ebook/dp/B00FCDHDAA
> http://learningthewonders.com
> 
> 
> Chuck
> 
> On 2017-10-05, 12:25 PM, "Webobjects-dev on behalf of André Rothe" 
> <webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com on behalf of 
> andre.ro...@phosco.info> wrote:
> 
>Am 2017-10-05 20:10, schrieb Theodore Petrosky:
>> You are working too hard!
> 
>:-)
> 
>> you need to look at all the examples. what you are asking for is so
>> simple (when you know how).
> 
>LOL, exact. When you know how and where... The problem is, that a lot of 
>WebObjects links on the internet are dead.
> 
>> Have you used EOModeler to build your model?
> 
>Yes, I have.
> 
>> I recommend you look at these videos:
> 
>50% of these videos I have already watched (and downloaded). A lot 
>things you don't understand at the first time you will watch the video, 
>because the WO community has its own "language", so it is hard to follow 
>the concepts.
> 
>Nevertheless, I have downloaded the examples for the WebObjects 
>Developer's Guide. This book is not bad, but it doesn't summarize the 
>workflows. So I have to read all the pages to find a hint for a specific 
>problem. That is also a problem to find something, if you cannot name 
>the problem with the correct "WO Community term".
> 
>My question refers to WOTable. In the meantime I have decompiled 
>WORepetition and find out, that you have to set components into the 
>WOTable tags, one component for every column of the database table, 
>which I need. The output of WOTable base on the "list" attribute, which 
>needs an NSArray or List and the "item" attribute, which is of the type 
>of the underlying database table.
> 
>As I sent my question, I thought, that WOTable creates output for all 
>attributes of the "item" automatically, so I tried to reduce the 
>attributes of "item" before it will be visible to WOTable. But that was 
>a fault.
> 
>Sorry for my "simple" questions, but this is a learning process. And 
>there are almost 20 years between my knowlegde of WebObjects and the 
>knowledge of the other readers here.
> 
>Best regards
>Andre
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Re: CSS file

[Theodore Petrosky]

Yes, but that is too much typing for me. I will quote the great uses that have 
always said to me, “You are working too hard!” 

have you downloaded and are you using Project Wonder?


> On Oct 5, 2017, at 6:05 AM, André Rothe  wrote:
> 
> Hi Theodore,
> 
> It seems that it also works with a WOString within the  tag:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> cssLink : WOString {
>   value = cssLink;
>   escapeHTML = false;
> }
> 
> public String getCssLink() {
>  WOResourceManager res = application().resourceManager();
>  return " res.urlForResourceNamed("Messages.css", null, null, getRequest()) + "\" 
> type=\"text/css\" />";
> }
> 
> It should be possible too, to read the content of Messages.css with the 
> WOResourceManager and put the bytes into the WOString value together with a 
> 

Re: ERMovies example with other database

[Theodore Petrosky]

did you watch David Holt’s ERAttachmet tutorial in the podcasts?

storageType the type of attachment to create, i.e. "s3", "db", or "file" -- 
defaults to "db" (or the value of er.attachment.storageType)




> On Sep 23, 2017, at 3:44 PM, André Rothe  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The ERMovies example uses per default an H2 database. Which steps are 
> necessary to switch to another database like Derby or MySQL? There are 
> already SQL scripts within the ERMoviesLogic framework, but I don't 
> understand where I have to set the credentials vor the new database.
> 
> Thank you
> Andre
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Re: [E] Looking for a 64 bit WOAdaptor for Apache 2.4

[Theodore Petrosky]

do I understand you want my  mod_WebObjects.so  from my working AWS 
installation? the one that lives at /usr/lib64/httpd/modules

http://ftp.agencysacks.com/_EYJw0rN9QV1kpR 
<http://ftp.agencysacks.com/_EYJw0rN9QV1kpR>

that link should download the module


> On Aug 31, 2017, at 7:00 AM, Soles, James T <terry.so...@verizon.com> wrote:
> 
> Ted,
>  
> I think I recall you saying that you had built a version of the WOAdaptor for 
> Apache 2.4 for the various Linux environments.  I have created an AWS 
> instance running RHEL 7 and am trying to get my application up and running in 
> that environment.  Would you happen to have a 64 bit version of the adaptor 
> for this environment that I can use instead of trying to build it myself?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Terry Soles
> 214-273-3916
>  
> From: Soles, James T 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:17 PM
> To: 'Theodore Petrosky'
> Cc: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>
> Subject: RE: [E] Re: Looking for a 64 bit WOAdaptor for Apache 2.4
>  
> Ted,
>  
> Thanks again for all of your help with this.  I’ve spent some time reading 
> the links you provided and trying to work through some of the issues I’ve had 
> when trying to build but keep getting stuck.  I’ve gotten the Wonder code 
> downloaded and the build gets through much of the process but fails with an 
> error when it starts trying to link.  I’ve tried a number of options related 
> to the libtool but none have been successful.  This may be an issue with some 
> of my versions of other package I have installed but I’m just not sure what 
> to try next.
>  
> I am actually trying to build an Apache 2.4 64 bit version of the adaptor for 
> Solaris.  I changed the make.config as you indicated below but I eventually 
> get the following error on the build:
>  
> /usr/share/apr-1/build-1/libtool: line 8962: 
> /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/OSX10.11.xctoolchain/usr/bin/cc:
>  No such file or directory
>  
> This is a valid error since the OSX10.11.xctoolchain/usr/bin/cc portion of 
> that path does not exist.  I have a 
> /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault.xctoolchain/usr/bin/cc.
>   From what I can tell the libtool is configured to point to the former for 
> the compiler though.  Unfortunately I do not have root access on the box so I 
> can’t create a directory or link and can’t change the libtool configuration.
>  
> Any other thoughts or ideas about how I might be able to get the 64 bit 
> adaptor created or do I just need to go get root access and resolve the build 
> error?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Terry Soles
> 214-273-3916
>  
> From: Theodore Petrosky [mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com <mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com>] 
> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 5:08 PM
> To: Soles, James T
> Cc: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>
> Subject: Re: [E] Re: Looking for a 64 bit WOAdaptor for Apache 2.4
>  
> I assume that if you are asking where this is, you do not have the wonder 
> source! I don’t know how you can work with out it. When you clone the wonder 
> repository, you will find a directory Utilities/Adapters/Apache2.4  that is 
> where the source lives. (if you have the wonder source, you have the source 
> to compile mod_webobjects.so for the version OS you are targeting)
>  
> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/Getting+the+Wonder+Source+Code 
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.wocommunity.org_display_WEB_Getting-2Bthe-2BWonder-2BSource-2BCode=DwMFaQ=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ=iRNEp3hMYgapkyD3-QXbLkRAGBlXFJDQ04EUUAYPIus=P8DhBBaOJpdV28DLuLYAv72H-20akx6GOOIODz9OBiY=XQ4RHjvkAaBVD5nq8g3i0uxMP2hYE4SxplEq3me34-M=>
>  
> then you need to read this there is a section on building the adapter:
>  
> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Installing+a+deployment+environment+on+RedHat%2C+CentOS+or+Amazon+Linux
>  
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.wocommunity.org_display_documentation_Installing-2Ba-2Bdeployment-2Benvironment-2Bon-2BRedHat-2C-2BCentOS-2Bor-2BAmazon-2BLinux=DwMFaQ=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ=iRNEp3hMYgapkyD3-QXbLkRAGBlXFJDQ04EUUAYPIus=P8DhBBaOJpdV28DLuLYAv72H-20akx6GOOIODz9OBiY=ut_91kkHS7dhmtziEHlYoTk0VfBZPqdbK0qZFsQZXU0=>
>  
> basically you must ‘fix’ the make.config file to point at your version of OSL:
>  
> ADAPTOR_OS = LINUX
>  
> again read those docs and examine the file. it’s right at the top.
>  
>  
>  
> On May 29, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Soles, James T <terry.so...@verizon.com 
> <mailto:terry.so...@verizon.com>> wrote:
>  
> Ted,
>  
> Maybe I am looking in the 

Re: moving my .d2wmodel files

[Theodore Petrosky]

Now it works. For some reason, that didn’t work when I tried that yesterday!

I have  not seen you name on the WO list much. What do you guys use WO for? If 
you don’t mind me asking?

I work at a small (and getting smaller) ad agency in NYC and mostly use WO for 
internal facing projects that usually need jasper reports pdfs.


> On Aug 17, 2017, at 3:17 AM, Kai Lochbaum <lochb...@salient-doremus.de> wrote:
> 
> Hi Theodore,
>  
> perhaps you have a typo somewhere. Works fine for me with this setup:
>  
> 
>  
>  
>  
> And thanks for the idea, we often have issues with concurrent ruleset 
> changes; splitting them up per component could solve some issues for us.
>  
>  
> Viele Grüße,
> Kai Lochbaum
>  
>  
> --
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>  
> Von: Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com>
> Datum: Donnerstag, 17. August 2017 um 01:36
> An: Paul Hoadley <pa...@logicsquad.net>
> Cc: WebObjects Development <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>
> Betreff: Re: moving my .d2wmodel files
>  
> yea, So I created the folder, created the Person.d2wmodel in the folder and 
> my app will not see it. I copied the file to Resources and it works.
>  
> I thought it ‘should’ find it, but no joy. I hate shoulding on myself, but I 
> seem to be doing it quite frequently.
>  
> Maybe this is one that doesn’t work
>  
>  
>  
> On Aug 16, 2017, at 7:20 PM, Paul Hoadley <pa...@logicsquad.net 
> <mailto:pa...@logicsquad.net>> wrote:
>  
> Hi Ted, 
>  
> On 17 Aug 2017, at 02:18, Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com 
> <mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>  
> Can I put my .d2wmodel files in a folder? I usually create a rule file for 
> each of my entities but then the Resources folder starts filling up. I tried 
> to use:
> 
> er.directtoweb.ERD2WModel.additionalModelNames=(“model/Person.d2wmodel","InventoryItem.d2wmodel”)
> 
> I was looking in ERD2WModel to see if when it went looking for the rule files 
> it would travers the folders looking but no joy.
> 
> is there a way to add a folder to the places that D2W will look for these 
> files?
>  
> Short answer is that I don’t know, but it will depend on how ERD2W is 
> sourcing these model files. In many cases (e.g., EO Models in sub-folders, 
> pulling in SQL with executeUpdateScriptFromResourceNamed()), resources will 
> be found in Resources without explicitly naming any intervening directories. 
> That is, you can often stick things in folders and do nothing else. So have 
> you tried putting the model files in the ‘model’ folder and doing nothing 
> else?
>  
>  
> -- 
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>  
>  
> 
>  
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Re: Migrating to google cloud

[Theodore Petrosky]

I have a similar need. I have been moving to AWS. It was easy to set up a 
centos (or any other flavor linux) instance. In my case, I set up separate 
instances. One for the database and one for the apps. Although you could use a 
single box (instance) for both the database and app server.

I have never used nginx so I can not comment. 

I would be happy to tell you how I went about my many experiments setting 
things up. I have only used wotaskd and womonitor. They have always worked well 
for me.

Ted

> On Jul 21, 2017, at 1:05 PM, Mark Wardle  wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> I am migrating some services to google cloud. I now have a mixture of micro 
> services (Apache Cayenne / Bootique) and older (but working well and still 
> very much alive and in development) WO applications. These have traditionally 
> been hosted on the NHS or more recently on linode, but I’ve take the decision 
> to make these applications more widely available.
> 
> I am used to a simple single server with PostgreSQL, Monitor and wotaskd  so 
> this is a bit of a leap. I’d like to take advantage of Cloud SQL 
> (https://cloud.google.com/sql/ ) running 
> PostgreSQL, and probably use nginx as a front-end for future load-balancing 
> with WO instances run from a command-line. 
> 
> Has anyone done something similar? Does this sound sensible? Are there any 
> gotchas that are going to catch me out? Am I better running monitor / wotaskd?
> 
> All advice appreciated,
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Mark
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Re: Project Wonder Documentation

[Theodore Petrosky]

???

I see a list in the sidebar of 32 listed frameworks and stuff!!!

you don’t see the sidebar?



> On Jun 29, 2017, at 1:03 PM, Gino Pacitti <ginok...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes me too… I am sure there was a lot more information there??
> 
> If you click here:
> 
> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Frameworks
> 
> Nothing there??
> 
> G
>> On 29 Jun 2017, at 19:02, Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry, I actually find the wiki confusing.
>> 
>> try starting here:   https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Home
>> 
>> Is this what you were thinking?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 6:55 AM, Gino Pacitti <ginok...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Am I just going blind but what happened to all the documentation
>>> on the wiki  such as - 
>>> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Frameworks
>>> 
>>> I am sure there used to be a lot more information ??
>>> 
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Re: [E] Re: Looking for a 64 bit WOAdaptor for Apache 2.4

[Theodore Petrosky]

Did you try the mon_webo9bjets.so that I sent you? I sent a link:

http://ftp.agencysacks.com/_Z12lpToshVVlxR 
<http://ftp.agencysacks.com/_Z12lpToshVVlxR>

clicking that link should download the mod_Webobjects.so

I want to know if that worked




> On May 30, 2017, at 2:17 PM, Soles, James T <terry.so...@verizon.com> wrote:
> 
> Ted,
>  
> Thanks again for all of your help with this.  I’ve spent some time reading 
> the links you provided and trying to work through some of the issues I’ve had 
> when trying to build but keep getting stuck.  I’ve gotten the Wonder code 
> downloaded and the build gets through much of the process but fails with an 
> error when it starts trying to link.  I’ve tried a number of options related 
> to the libtool but none have been successful.  This may be an issue with some 
> of my versions of other package I have installed but I’m just not sure what 
> to try next.
>  
> I am actually trying to build an Apache 2.4 64 bit version of the adaptor for 
> Solaris.  I changed the make.config as you indicated below but I eventually 
> get the following error on the build:
>  
> /usr/share/apr-1/build-1/libtool: line 8962: 
> /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/OSX10.11.xctoolchain/usr/bin/cc:
>  No such file or directory
>  
> This is a valid error since the OSX10.11.xctoolchain/usr/bin/cc portion of 
> that path does not exist.  I have a 
> /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault.xctoolchain/usr/bin/cc.
>   From what I can tell the libtool is configured to point to the former for 
> the compiler though.  Unfortunately I do not have root access on the box so I 
> can’t create a directory or link and can’t change the libtool configuration.
>  
> Any other thoughts or ideas about how I might be able to get the 64 bit 
> adaptor created or do I just need to go get root access and resolve the build 
> error?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Terry Soles
> 214-273-3916
>  
> From: Theodore Petrosky [mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 5:08 PM
> To: Soles, James T
> Cc: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
> Subject: Re: [E] Re: Looking for a 64 bit WOAdaptor for Apache 2.4
>  
> I assume that if you are asking where this is, you do not have the wonder 
> source! I don’t know how you can work with out it. When you clone the wonder 
> repository, you will find a directory Utilities/Adapters/Apache2.4  that is 
> where the source lives. (if you have the wonder source, you have the source 
> to compile mod_webobjects.so for the version OS you are targeting)
>  
> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/Getting+the+Wonder+Source+Code 
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.wocommunity.org_display_WEB_Getting-2Bthe-2BWonder-2BSource-2BCode=DwMFaQ=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ=iRNEp3hMYgapkyD3-QXbLkRAGBlXFJDQ04EUUAYPIus=P8DhBBaOJpdV28DLuLYAv72H-20akx6GOOIODz9OBiY=XQ4RHjvkAaBVD5nq8g3i0uxMP2hYE4SxplEq3me34-M=>
>  
> then you need to read this there is a section on building the adapter:
>  
> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Installing+a+deployment+environment+on+RedHat%2C+CentOS+or+Amazon+Linux
>  
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.wocommunity.org_display_documentation_Installing-2Ba-2Bdeployment-2Benvironment-2Bon-2BRedHat-2C-2BCentOS-2Bor-2BAmazon-2BLinux=DwMFaQ=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ=iRNEp3hMYgapkyD3-QXbLkRAGBlXFJDQ04EUUAYPIus=P8DhBBaOJpdV28DLuLYAv72H-20akx6GOOIODz9OBiY=ut_91kkHS7dhmtziEHlYoTk0VfBZPqdbK0qZFsQZXU0=>
>  
> basically you must ‘fix’ the make.config file to point at your version of OSL:
>  
> ADAPTOR_OS = LINUX
>  
> again read those docs and examine the file. it’s right at the top.
>  
>  
>  
> On May 29, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Soles, James T <terry.so...@verizon.com 
> <mailto:terry.so...@verizon.com>> wrote:
>  
> Ted,
>  
> Maybe I am looking in the wrong place but I’ve looked at the docs about 
> building the mod_webobjects.so and I’m not certain where to get the source or 
> exactly how to build it.  Unfortunately, the file built by Maik did not work 
> for me.  Can you point me to the docs you are referring to?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Terry Soles
> 214-273-3916
>  
> From: Theodore Petrosky [mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com <mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com>] 
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 1:29 PM
> To: Musall, Maik
> Cc: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>; 
> Soles, James T
> Subject: [E] Re: Looking for a 64 bit WOAdaptor for Apache 2.4
>  
> but compiling mod_webobjects.so is relatively easy. It took me a while, but 
> on all my experiments with AWS I was compiling the adapter on each platform. 
>

Re: [E] Re: Looking for a 64 bit WOAdaptor for Apache 2.4

[Theodore Petrosky]

did this work?

http://ftp.agencysacks.com/_Z12lpToshVVlxR 
<http://ftp.agencysacks.com/_Z12lpToshVVlxR>



> On May 29, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Soles, James T <terry.so...@verizon.com> wrote:
> 
> Ted,
>  
> Maybe I am looking in the wrong place but I’ve looked at the docs about 
> building the mod_webobjects.so and I’m not certain where to get the source or 
> exactly how to build it.  Unfortunately, the file built by Maik did not work 
> for me.  Can you point me to the docs you are referring to?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Terry Soles
> 214-273-3916
>  
> From: Theodore Petrosky [mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 1:29 PM
> To: Musall, Maik
> Cc: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com; Soles, James T
> Subject: [E] Re: Looking for a 64 bit WOAdaptor for Apache 2.4
>  
> but compiling mod_webobjects.so is relatively easy. It took me a while, but 
> on all my experiments with AWS I was compiling the adapter on each platform. 
> Take a look at the docs. if you need help I’ll be glad to help out.
>  
> This will free you from worrying if a repository is up to date. wotaskd and 
> JavaMonitor are really the same issue, although Maik made it really easy by 
> fixing the wiki with the newest version link.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> On May 19, 2017, at 1:12 PM, Musall, Maik <m...@selbstdenker.ag 
> <mailto:m...@selbstdenker.ag>> wrote:
>  
> Hi Terry,
>  
> I compiled one for Ubuntu Xenial, which has Apache 2.4. I already put it onto 
> the new wocommunity.org 
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__wocommunity.org_=DwMFaQ=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ=iRNEp3hMYgapkyD3-QXbLkRAGBlXFJDQ04EUUAYPIus=ov15-Fl9TDbIZ1vBvRJULoyM0fwrTMv4tBe0d-ALn4c=sadrxEUpU3sFKfLGH50bHk6OQVl4NgqOhrYTpRvR55E=>
>  site, but that is not yet publicly available because a lot of other details 
> on the website are not yet migrated. But I just copied it over to the old 
> site. Get it here:
>  
> http://wocommunity.org/documents/tools/mod_WebObjects/Apache2.4/linux/ubuntu/xenial/
>  
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__wocommunity.org_documents_tools_mod-5FWebObjects_Apache2.4_linux_ubuntu_xenial_=DwMFaQ=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ=iRNEp3hMYgapkyD3-QXbLkRAGBlXFJDQ04EUUAYPIus=ov15-Fl9TDbIZ1vBvRJULoyM0fwrTMv4tBe0d-ALn4c=Y8Lx_30mJ7cJb_qYWCbTU2p-Od8ctFoIvn7n5A-Nej0=>
>  
> Maik
>  
>  
> Am 19.05.2017 um 14:24 schrieb Soles, James T <terry.so...@verizon.com 
> <mailto:terry.so...@verizon.com>>:
>  
> I’ve read a number of comments on the list about WOAdaptor for Apache 2.4 and 
> saw some with a link to a binary but that link is no longer valid.  Does 
> anyone have a 64 bit WOAdaptor for Apache 2.4 that I can get?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Terry Soles
> 214-273-3916
>  
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Starting with Maven

[Theodore Petrosky]

I am biting the bullet and starting with Maven. I am on Sierra, with Eclipse 
Neon.3 and the current Wonder source installed.

I am following the minimalistic tutorial on the Build and Deployment podcast 
from April 2014 WOWODC. There is a second section with Henrique Prange on 
converting projects to Maven.

I created the settings.xml and added the text from:
https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WOL/Quick+Start+Maven+Settings+Configuration+Guide
 


Before I get into my individual problems, is there another document I could 
read that would help me? Or another tutorial?

BTW, a new wonder application (hello world) seems to work beautifully. I start 
getting into problems when I try a D2W app with a framework.

Help please.

Ted
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Re: Compiling ERExtensions in Sierra no worky

[Theodore Petrosky]

Interesting, I feel a little behind the curve here. I finally feel that my 
‘ant’ build and install is working exactly correct. I think that Sierra ‘fixed’ 
a bunch of things, or maybe my constant hacking made it work.

But now I should learn to use maven. Did anyone do a WOWODC session on maven?

Ted


> On May 20, 2017, at 3:43 AM, Musall, Maik  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ray,
> 
> interesting stuff. Did the javadoc also work correctly with maven, did it 
> generate proper index html files on Sierra as well?
> 
> Perhaps it's also time to move the Jenkins wonder build to maven.
> 
> Maik
> 
>> Am 19.05.2017 um 23:10 schrieb Ray Kiddy > >:
>> 
>> 
>> So, I just have to say, I wanted to build wonder on my new Sierra laptop and 
>> of course it did not work. And then, after checking several things, 
>> downloading this and that, checking some other things, sacrificing a fatted 
>> calf and so on and so forth, thinking about making this work just starting 
>> to sound like Beelzebub howling in my head. Really.
>> 
>> I installed maven, got Hugi's settings.xml file and it just f-ing worked. 
>> Arg! Damn his eyes! :-)
>> I just thought I should admit, publicly and with appropriate humility, my 
>> interest in making wonder build with ant just vanished. Sorry. Life is just 
>> too short.
>> 
>> Now, figuring out the whole getting my projects to work with it, we'll see. 
>> But I am tired of finding myself messing with deployment scripts. So who 
>> knows.
>> -ray
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/12/17 3:39 AM, Hugi Thordarson wrote:
> Thanks Hugi for the links! I’m definitely going to be looking into this 
> soon-ish. Goodbye fluffy bunny.
 
 The wiki is semi-useful, but some of it is stale and unhelpful. As far as 
 migration of existing projects goes, follow Hugi’s recipe:
 
 https://gist.github.com/hugith/e9a49e91fbcebe204e0feb4989f55631 
 
 
 but also take a look at my fork of that:
 
 https://gist.github.com/paulhoadley/cd15b90c94eb8c640fddd9ac3fbbc6dc 
 
 
 They cover some slightly different areas. Hugi—we really should merge them.
>>> 
>>> Ah, yes. Most importantly, you mention updating the “woproject”-folder 
>>> which I forgot to include.
>>> 
>>> 
 I also think Hugi’s being modest—once you’ve done a few, you can probably 
 migrate a project in under 20 minutes.
>>> 
>>> In fact I originally wrote “10 minutes” there, but I felt an hour would 
>>> sound more believable :).
>>> 
>>> 
 To "dependency management" and "third party library integration", I would 
 add "simplified interaction with Jenkins” as a huge benefit. Throw out all 
 those workspace setup scripts: just point Jenkins at your repo and you’re 
 pretty much done. We’ve been using Maven for about 6 months, and haven’t 
 looked back.
>>> 
>>> Not to mention all the other goodies you get by using maven, stuff like 
>>> automatic test running, "mvn versions:display-dependency-updates”, "mvn 
>>> dependency:tree” etc.
>>> 
>>> 
 If you want to live-blog your experience here on the list, Hugi and I 
 would be happy to help troubleshoot if you run into any issues
>>> 
>>> Indeed!
>>> 
>>> - hugi
>>> 
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Re: data backup question

[Theodore Petrosky]

Actually, I am still living in the free AWS. If you create a RDS, you have to 
pay. So I am running postgresql in the free instance. Yea, my data is really 
small right now. 

How do you feel about responsiveness, especially postgresql responsiveness? I 
have never had any real experience with MySQL so i don’t want to even ask.

Ted


> On May 16, 2017, at 2:21 AM, Paul Hoadley <pa...@logicsquad.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ted,
> 
> On 16 May 2017, at 00:36, Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com 
> <mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Over the past few months I have been experimenting with using hosted systems 
>> for my WO apps. I know there are others that are using hosted systems. How 
>> are you backing up your data?
>> 
>> Internally it was easy. I ran a script on my Postgresql database, then 
>> offsite backed it up with Crashplan.
>> 
>> How are you backing up data, especially when it gets to be a big database?
> 
> If you’re using AWS (you were three days ago, but life moves fast…), take a 
> look at RDS:
> 
> https://aws.amazon.com/rds/ <https://aws.amazon.com/rds/>
> 
> We’ve been using that since the moment it offered PostgreSQL.
> 
> 
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Re: Compiling ERExtensions in Sierra no worky

[Theodore Petrosky]

I think you are going to find that your Apple WebObjects files are hurt. Of 
course you will not be able to use the apple WebObjects.mpkg will not install 
WO. You will need to use the WOInstaller.jar.

What do you have in your wobuild.properties (~/Library), and what about 
~/Library/Application\ Support/WOLips/wolips.properties

I spun my wheels for hours to get this to work again in Sierra.


> On May 8, 2017, at 7:41 AM, Calven Eggert <cal...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> I get the same error for this source.
> 
> 
>> On May 7, 2017, at 5:57 PM, Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com 
>> <mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> So, you are trying to build ERExtensions only? What do you get when you do 
>> an ‘ant frameworks’ at the top level of your repo?
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2017, at 4:23 PM, Calven Eggert <cal...@mac.com 
>>> <mailto:cal...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve been installing my dev environment on a new Mac in Sierra however, I’m 
>>> having problems with one of my applications.  When I build the Wonder code 
>>> I get an error with ERExtensions. See below.  I’ve downloaded the file 
>>> org.apache.commons.lang3 cause of the error message but I still get the 
>>> error.  I’m not sure where this new file should go but something tells me 
>>> this setup doesn’t feel quite right.  Anyone else have the issue?
>>> 
>>> Calven
>>> --
>>> 
>>> calven$ cd /Users/calven/WonderSource/Frameworks/Core/ERExtensions 
>>> calven$ ant
>>> Buildfile: /Users/calven/WonderSource/Frameworks/Core/ERExtensions/build.xml
>>> 
>>> clean:
>>> 
>>> ERExtensions.all:
>>> 
>>> global.environment:
>>> 
>>> global.properties:
>>> 
>>> global.framework.clean:
>>>[delete] Deleting directory /Users/calven/Roots/classes/ERExtensions
>>> 
>>> build:
>>> 
>>> ERExtensions.all:
>>> 
>>> global.environment:
>>> 
>>> global.properties:
>>> 
>>> global.prepare:
>>> [mkdir] Created dir: /Users/calven/Roots/classes/ERExtensions
>>> 
>>> global.compile:
>>> 
>>> global.dummy:
>>> [wocompile] Compiling 524 source files to 
>>> /Users/calven/Roots/classes/ERExtensions
>>> [wocompile] 
>>> /Users/calven/WonderSource/Frameworks/Core/ERExtensions/Sources/er/extensions/eof/ERXSortOrdering.java:5:
>>>  error: package org.apache.commons.lang3.builder does not exist
>>> [wocompile] import org.apache.commons.lang3.builder.HashCodeBuilder;
>>> [wocompile]^
>>> [wocompile] 
>>> /Users/calven/WonderSource/Frameworks/Core/ERExtensions/Sources/er/extensions/eof/qualifiers/ERXExistsQualifier.java:13:
>>>  error: package org.apache.commons.lang3 does not exist
>>> [wocompile] import org.apache.commons.lang3.StringUtils;
>>> [wocompile]^
>>> [wocompile] 
>>> /Users/calven/WonderSource/Frameworks/Core/ERExtensions/Sources/er/extensions/eof/qualifiers/ERXExistsQualifier.java:14:
>>>  error: package org.slf4j does not exist
>>> [wocompile] import org.slf4j.Logger;
>>> [wocompile] ^
>>> [wocompile] 
>>> /Users/calven/WonderSource/Frameworks/Core/ERExtensions/Sources/er/extensions/eof/qualifiers/ERXExistsQualifier.java:15:
>>>  error: package org.slf4j does not exist
>>> [wocompile] import org.slf4j.LoggerFactory;
>>> [wocompile] ^
>>> [wocompile] 
>>> /Users/calven/WonderSource/Frameworks/Core/ERExtensions/Sources/er/extensions/eof/ERXFetchResultCache.java:3:
>>>  error: package org.slf4j does not exist
>>> [wocompile] import org.slf4j.Logger;
>>> [wocompile] ^
>>> [wocompile] 
>>> /Users/calven/WonderSource/Frameworks/Core/ERExtensions/Sources/er/extensions/eof/ERXFetchResultCache.java:4:
>>>  error: package org.slf4j does not exist
>>> [wocompile] import org.slf4j.LoggerFactory;
>>> [wocompile] ^
>>> [wocompile] 
>>> /Users/calven/WonderSource/Frameworks/Core/ERExtensions/Sources/er/extensions/eof/qualifiers/ERXExistsQualifier.java:69:
>>>  error: cannot find symbol
>>> [wocompile] static final Logger log = 
>>> LoggerFactory.getLogger(ERXExistsQualifier.class);
>>> [wocompile]  ^
>>> [wocompile]   symbol:   class Logger
>>> …
>>> 
>>> _

Re: Compiling ERExtensions in Sierra no worky

[Theodore Petrosky]

So, you are trying to build ERExtensions only? What do you get when you do an 
‘ant frameworks’ at the top level of your repo?


> On May 7, 2017, at 4:23 PM, Calven Eggert  wrote:
> 
> I’ve been installing my dev environment on a new Mac in Sierra however, I’m 
> having problems with one of my applications.  When I build the Wonder code I 
> get an error with ERExtensions. See below.  I’ve downloaded the file 
> org.apache.commons.lang3 cause of the error message but I still get the 
> error.  I’m not sure where this new file should go but something tells me 
> this setup doesn’t feel quite right.  Anyone else have the issue?
> 
> Calven
> --
> 
> calven$ cd /Users/calven/WonderSource/Frameworks/Core/ERExtensions 
> calven$ ant
> Buildfile: /Users/calven/WonderSource/Frameworks/Core/ERExtensions/build.xml
> 
> clean:
> 
> ERExtensions.all:
> 
> global.environment:
> 
> global.properties:
> 
> global.framework.clean:
>[delete] Deleting directory /Users/calven/Roots/classes/ERExtensions
> 
> build:
> 
> ERExtensions.all:
> 
> global.environment:
> 
> global.properties:
> 
> global.prepare:
> [mkdir] Created dir: /Users/calven/Roots/classes/ERExtensions
> 
> global.compile:
> 
> global.dummy:
> [wocompile] Compiling 524 source files to 
> /Users/calven/Roots/classes/ERExtensions
> [wocompile] 
> /Users/calven/WonderSource/Frameworks/Core/ERExtensions/Sources/er/extensions/eof/ERXSortOrdering.java:5:
>  error: package org.apache.commons.lang3.builder does not exist
> [wocompile] import org.apache.commons.lang3.builder.HashCodeBuilder;
> [wocompile]^
> [wocompile] 
> /Users/calven/WonderSource/Frameworks/Core/ERExtensions/Sources/er/extensions/eof/qualifiers/ERXExistsQualifier.java:13:
>  error: package org.apache.commons.lang3 does not exist
> [wocompile] import org.apache.commons.lang3.StringUtils;
> [wocompile]^
> [wocompile] 
> /Users/calven/WonderSource/Frameworks/Core/ERExtensions/Sources/er/extensions/eof/qualifiers/ERXExistsQualifier.java:14:
>  error: package org.slf4j does not exist
> [wocompile] import org.slf4j.Logger;
> [wocompile] ^
> [wocompile] 
> /Users/calven/WonderSource/Frameworks/Core/ERExtensions/Sources/er/extensions/eof/qualifiers/ERXExistsQualifier.java:15:
>  error: package org.slf4j does not exist
> [wocompile] import org.slf4j.LoggerFactory;
> [wocompile] ^
> [wocompile] 
> /Users/calven/WonderSource/Frameworks/Core/ERExtensions/Sources/er/extensions/eof/ERXFetchResultCache.java:3:
>  error: package org.slf4j does not exist
> [wocompile] import org.slf4j.Logger;
> [wocompile] ^
> [wocompile] 
> /Users/calven/WonderSource/Frameworks/Core/ERExtensions/Sources/er/extensions/eof/ERXFetchResultCache.java:4:
>  error: package org.slf4j does not exist
> [wocompile] import org.slf4j.LoggerFactory;
> [wocompile] ^
> [wocompile] 
> /Users/calven/WonderSource/Frameworks/Core/ERExtensions/Sources/er/extensions/eof/qualifiers/ERXExistsQualifier.java:69:
>  error: cannot find symbol
> [wocompile]   static final Logger log = 
> LoggerFactory.getLogger(ERXExistsQualifier.class);
> [wocompile]^
> [wocompile]   symbol:   class Logger
> …
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new setup with postgresql

[Theodore Petrosky]

So I am in the process of setting up a new machine and I decided to update my 
Postgresql version an check up the postgresql jdbc site. There is a new version 
with a completely new numbering system. Personally I think they are adding a 
little sanity to the numbering. Here is a link to the new driver and the FAQ

https://jdbc.postgresql.org/documentation/faq.html 


https://jdbc.postgresql.org/download.html 


Feb 20 2017

PostgreSQL JDBC Driver 42.0.0 Released!
Just to keep us updated with info
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wiki down??

[Theodore Petrosky]

I was hoping that the wiki would come back up like the magic that WO is. But 
alas, no. I assume it is just growing pains.
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Re: ERJasperReports: how to perform an operation with the generated file?

[Theodore Petrosky]

I don’t know if it helps but looking at ERJRUtilities.java, ERJasperReports 
works by saving a temp file. the temp file is not deleted until the application 
quits normally. Can you grab the temp file?

BTW, if you use ERJasperReports, you must set your deployed application to 
terminate regularly to clear out these temp files.



> On Feb 20, 2017, at 9:07 AM, Flavio Donadio  wrote:
> 
> Hello, all!
> 
> 
> In my D2W app, I have a button (in the list page for an entity) that the user 
> can click to download that list in PDF format, generated with 
> ERJasperReports. I use a CCAjaxLongResponsePage, just like the demo 
> (https://github.com/wocommunity/wonder/blob/master/Examples/Reporting/ERJasperReportsExample/Sources/er/jrexample/components/Main.java)
>  and everything works fine.
> 
> Now, I don’t want the user to download the file anymore, but to have the file 
> sent through e-mail. I tried call()'ing the Callable to get the file 
> and send it, but the task takes too long and the request times out (some 
> really strange things happen). Then I tried some “LongResponse" classes, but 
> only CCAjaxLongResponsePage can deal with a task and I can’t find a way to 
> get the file from that component...
> 
> I’m lost. Can someone point me in the right direction?
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Flavio
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lists is redesigned!!!

[Theodore Petrosky]

I don’t know that lists.apple.com  is going away for 
good. the whole section is gone. I have been unsuccessful getting to the 
archives!

that really means if you google something and it returns a hit that goes to 
lists.apple.com  there is currently no information or 
rather inaccessible information . 

Is there anyway to get the archive downloaded?

There were other sections to the lists server. I assume they are also in the 
same boat.

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excelgeneration problem :(

[Theodore Petrosky]

I hope someone can help


This top WO html works! Specifically, the second repetition in with the list 
array that comes from the outer loop!



  First Name
  Last 
Name
  Date 
Created








 








This does not! it claims that $anEvent.eventPersons is empty! It correctly 
creates the proper number of sheets, the header are there, but the inside 
repetition is blank! Maybe I am just doing it wrong:






  First Name
  Last 
Name
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UniqueConstraintException and Mysql

[Theodore Petrosky]

I have this working fine with my postgresql backend. I created an index on the 
User entity. I have a Constraint Distinct on the login attribute. The index is 
named login_idx.

so in my ValidationTemplate.strings file I have:

{
"UniqueConstraintException.login_idx" = "Please choose a different 
login (It must be unique).";

}

This doesn’t seem to work with a MySQL backend or I am not remembering to wire 
something else in. After I ran the migrations, I see the index on the table and 
I see the errors in my console:

EvaluateExpression failed: 
: Next exception:SQL State:23000 -- error code: 1062 -- 
msg: Duplicate entry 't...@tp.com' for key ‘login_idx'

there it is:
error code: 1062 -- msg: Duplicate entry 't...@tp.com' for key ‘login_idx'

so Mysql is complaining and i am not catching it correctly. Googling doesn’t 
seem to help here.

Ted
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Re: WOWODC17?? a little OT

[Theodore Petrosky]

So we’ve decided? Iceland?

Do you think Pascal will be able to provide logistics? Does he have to arrive 
early to catch a goat for dinner?

> On Jan 13, 2017, at 12:21 PM, Mark Gowdy  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 13 Jan 2017, at 17:15, Chuck Hill > > wrote:
>> 
>> Are those…. Goats?
> 
> I ain’t afraid of no goats!
> 
>>  
>>  
>> From: > > on 
>> behalf of Hugi Thordarson >
>> Date: Friday, January 13, 2017 at 6:39 AM
>> To: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com " 
>> >
>> Subject: Re: WOWODC17?? a little OT
>>  
>> Awesome, I’ve already booked a venue. Look forward to seeing you guys.
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On 13. jan. 2017, at 14:22, Markus Ruggiero > > wrote:
>> 
>> Iceland? Would be interesting. And I may go if there is a WOWODC17 at all
>> 
>> 
>> On 13.01.2017, at 04:10, Chuck Hill > > wrote:
>> 
>> You have an extremely lenient definition of food!
>>  
>> +1 on women and hot springs
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -100 on hakarl
>> hakarl? what's that? Must be aful judging by Chuck's thumbs down
>> 
>> ---markus---
>> 
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Fwd: confirm bounce?? off list topic sorry

[Theodore Petrosky]

Does anyone know what would cause this? this is a yahoo email address, i have 
used it for 20 years and this is the third time I have received this in the 
last month.

is there a issue with yahoo email addresses? 

obviously there is no one to contact at yahoo.

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Re: Filtering options in a dropdown (toOne relationship)

[Theodore Petrosky]

I have only done this with a fetch specification. I create a fetch spec on 
person then the rule is simple:

102 : (pageConfiguration like 'Query*' and propertyKey = 'client') => 
restrictingFetchSpecification = "currentClients" 
[com.webobjects.directtoweb.Assignment]

In this case I have a boolean currentClients. I suppose you could traverse the 
foreign key ids, or use direct sql in the fetch spec.

what about creating a method on Project that returns what you want and bind 
that to the dropdown?

public NSArray personsForTeamProject() {

NSArray allPersons = Person.fetchAllPersons(editingContext());

EOQualifier personQualifier = 

 return ERXQ.filtered(allPersons, personQualifier);
}



> On Nov 24, 2016, at 10:06 AM, Flavio Donadio  wrote:
> 
> Hello, everybody!
> 
> 
> One more question that looks simple, but is making me bang my head on the 
> wall...
> 
> Just consider a D2W app with these entities:
> 
> Team <—>> Person
> Team <—>> Project
> Project <—>> Task
> Task <—> Person
> 
> I have this EditEmbeddedTask in an EditProject page. User can select Person 
> on a dropdown but, the way my app is working now, it shows all Persons in the 
> database. I want it to show only the Persons in "project.team.persons".
> 
> How can I achieve that?
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Flavio
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d2w file upload help

[Theodore Petrosky]

I have a ERAttachment relationship and I am upload assets. I need to upload 
.zip files and process them after they arrive. I need to unzip them. the 
contents of the zip is a webpage (index.html and images). Hopefully, I can 
unzip the file, and provide a link to this folder to view the webpage.

The filesystempath of erattachment looks like this:

/clientFiles/attachments/b/8/5/5.zip

if I end up with 

/clientFiles/attachments/b/8/5/5

as a directory, I should be able to create a link to that folder.

or am I barking up the wrong tree?  how can i unzip this file after the uploads 
succeeds?
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Re: adding relation EOs

[Theodore Petrosky]

Me being paranoid that’s all …. Thanks for the ec warning.

I am going to be asking a bunch of D2W questions in the next weeks.


> On Nov 15, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Paul Hoadley <pa...@logicsquad.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ted,
> 
> On 16 Nov 2016, at 6:09 AM, Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com 
> <mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
> 
>> NSArray books = 
>> PersonShowBook.fetchPersonShowBooks(editingContext(), 
>> PersonShowBook.IS_PRIMARY_PLAYER.eq(Boolean.TRUE), null);
> 
> I can’t imagine a circumstance where they would be different objects, but I 
> would use ‘ec’ here rather than ‘editingContext()’, since ‘ec’ is the EC 
> passed to init().
> 
>> It’s working, but am I stepping on myself?
> 
> It looks reasonable to me. Is there anything in particular you’re worried 
> about?
> 
> 
> -- 
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adding relation EOs

[Theodore Petrosky]

I need to create and add EOs to a relationship when the base EO is created.

The end result is that when I create an EO called Event, I want to assign all 
the related EOs where isPrimaryPlayer is true.

I added this to my init method of Event:

@Override
protected void init(EOEditingContext ec) {
// TODO Auto-generated method stub
super.init(ec);

NSArray books = 
PersonShowBook.fetchPersonShowBooks(editingContext(), 
PersonShowBook.IS_PRIMARY_PLAYER.eq(Boolean.TRUE), null);

for (PersonShowBook psb : books) {
this.addToPersonShowBooksRelationship(psb);
}

}

It’s working, but am I stepping on myself?

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new clone of wonder??

[Theodore Petrosky]

I just set up a computer for WO and Wonder, so I used git to clone wonder. I 
have the most up to date wonder. I imported the frameworks into my eclipse 
workspace (as well as used the CLI to compile and install the frameworks).

Weird that ERAttachments is complaining.

public static Blender getBlenderFor(BlendComposite composite) {
switch (composite.getMode()) {

my setup is complaining about this enum.  Cannot switch on a value of type 
BlendComposite.BlendingMode. Only convertible int values, strings or enum 
variables are permitted

I don’t recall seeing this error before, this is my jdk:  jdk1.8.0_112.jdk

Do I need to change something in my preferences?

Ted
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reverse engineered DB

[Theodore Petrosky]

I am reverse engineering an Oracle DB to be able to read from it. I will not 
write!

I am of course afraid of this DB. it is not my product and it could be very 
hurt if something was written to it incorrectly. 

Would you recommend checking the “Read Only”  check box in the Advanced tab in 
Entity Modeler for the Entities that I reverse engineer?
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Re: first time with oracle

[Theodore Petrosky]

So silly me I googled OracleDriver webobjects and I found a webobjects-dev mail 
archive that was exactly what I needed. And then I noticed that I started it in 
2012. So I found this and I have the properties working.

# Connection Dictionary
 SilentPartner.URL=jdbc:oracle:thin:@10.1.3.250:1521/XE
 SilentPartner.DBUser=name
 SilentPartner.DBPassword=PW
 SilentPartner.DBPlugin=OraclePlugIn


Where SilentPartner.eomodel is the model file in the framework!

So I took the connection dictionary out of the model after all.

Thanks for reminding me to keep at it till I figured it out.

Ted



> On Oct 29, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Paul Hoadley <pa...@logicsquad.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ted,
> 
> With the caveat that I don’t use Oracle (though that’s probably incidental)...
> 
> On 29 Oct 2016, at 10:26 PM, Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> So I went back to the original app that was using a framework for the oracle 
>> connection and I commented out the property file entries for the global 
>> database. then I went to the framework and added the connection information 
>> to the Entity Modeler instance, and now that works.
>> 
>> What does that mean? I should not use the properties file for my connection 
>> dictionary?
> 
> On the contrary, I think you should _only_ use Properties for your connection 
> dictionary. One place, you know where it is, you can potentially override it 
> when you need to (for example, with Properties.dev and Properties.ted).
> 
>> Let’s think. I had the connection dictionary in  the Entity Modeler instance 
>> to reverse engineer the database. Then I deleted the entries in EM, and 
>> added the GLOBAL lines to the properties file in my app.
>> 
>> Somehow, even though I deleted the lines in the EM instance, the framework 
>> was remembering and Chuck was asking, “Is it finding a different model 
>> somewhere?”
>> 
>> But I selected but my app, and the framework in Eclipse, cleaned them and 
>> even right clicked and refreshed.
> 
> It’s hard to say what was going on here.
> 
>> Should I just call this voodoo and move on?
> 
> I’d call it voodoo, but if it was me I would press on until I had the 
> connection dictionary out of the model and into Properties, especially if, as 
> you say, the model is in a framework. (How can you set the connection 
> dictionary in the framework and be confident that will be appropriate for 
> every app that uses the framework?)
> 
> 
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> http://logicsquad.net/
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reverse engineer table problem

[Theodore Petrosky]

my first real gottcha!  it seems that the database I need to reverse has a 
reserved word for a table name. Important info here!! I am never going to write 
to this database, just read. 

in a table I need, there is an attribute called “super”. 

what are my choices? I don’t even care about this attribute so I could comment 
the accessors out. but if I were to rerun the EOGenerate,  I would have a 
problem.

anything I can do besides commenting out the accessors?
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Re: first time with oracle

[Theodore Petrosky]

OK this is weird.

I started over and created a new D2W app.(and I downloaded ojdc6.jar) I added 
an Entity Modeler  in the app (not a framework) I used the url:

jdbc:oracle:thin:@//10.1.3.250:1521/XE
same user
same pw

I reversed two tables and ran the app. It worked fine.

So I went back to the original app that was using a framework for the oracle 
connection and I commented out the property file entries for the global 
database. then I went to the framework and added the connection information to 
the Entity Modeler instance, and now that works.

What does that mean? I should not use the properties file for my connection 
dictionary?

Let’s think. I had the connection dictionary in  the Entity Modeler instance to 
reverse engineer the database. Then I deleted the entries in EM, and added the 
GLOBAL lines to the properties file in my app.

Somehow, even though I deleted the lines in the EM instance, the framework was 
remembering and Chuck was asking, “Is it finding a different model somewhere?”

But I selected but my app, and the framework in Eclipse, cleaned them and even 
right clicked and refreshed.

Should I just call this voodoo and move on?

Ted


> On Oct 28, 2016, at 10:21 PM, Chuck Hill <ch...@gevityinc.com> wrote:
> 
> Is it finding a different model somewhere?   And ojdbc14.jar is kind of old 
> (Java 1.4).  There are newer ones.
>  
> Chuck
>  
>  
> From: <webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc....@lists.apple.com> on behalf 
> of Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com>
> Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 at 6:21 PM
> To: WebObjects-Dev <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>
> Subject: first time with oracle
>  
> I am trying to access an Oracle backend. I think I am almost there.
>  
> first. I created a Wonder framework and added ojdbc14.jar to the build path. 
> In entity modeler I added for the URL:
> jdbc:oracle:thin:@//10.1.3.250:1521/XE
>  
> and i gave it the user name and password.
>  
> Entity Modeler connected to the database and I was able to reverse compile 
> the database. so far so good.
>  
> So I created a Wonder D2W app, added my reverse compiled framework, added 
> EROraclePlugin. I added the ojdbc14.jar to my build path. 
>  
> I added into the propery file:
> # Oracle Connection Dictionary
> dbConnectUserGLOBAL=name
> dbConnectPasswordGLOBAL=pw
> dbConnectURLGLOBAL=jdbc:oracle:thin:@//10.1.3.250:1521/XE?capitalizeTypenames=true=convertToNull
> 
> the app compiled and ran then on the home page I see all the tables that I 
> reverse compiled. so far so good until I click any Find button on any table:
>  
> _obtainOpenChannel -- com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext 
> com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext@3dc4f166: failed to open database 
> channel. Check your connection dictionary, and ensure your database is 
> correctly configured.
>  
> am I missing something in my setup?
>  
> Oct 28 21:14:22 MySilentPartner[58575] WARN  er.extensions.eof.ERXModelGroup 
> (null) - Clearing previous class descriptions
> Oct 28 21:14:22 MySilentPartner[58575] DEBUG NSLog (null) - Using JDBCPlugIn 
> 'com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.EROraclePlugIn' for ERXJDBCAdaptor@2112380784
> Oct 28 21:14:22 MySilentPartner[58575] INFO  
> er.extensions.appserver.ERXStaticResourceRequestHandler  - Unable to get 
> contents of file 'ERROR_NOT_FOUND_framework_app_filename_customizations.css' 
> for uri: ERROR_NOT_FOUND_framework_app_filename_customizations.css
> Oct 28 21:14:26 MySilentPartner[58575] DEBUG NSLog  - Using JDBCPlugIn 
> 'com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.EROraclePlugIn' for ERXJDBCAdaptor@1670927216
> Oct 28 21:14:26 MySilentPartner[58575] DEBUG NSLog  -  connecting with 
> dictionary: {password = ""; username = "spartner"; 
> URL = 
> "jdbc:oracle:thin:@//10.1.3.250:1521/XE?capitalizeTypenames=true=convertToNull";
>  }
> Oct 28 21:14:26 MySilentPartner[58575] WARN  NSLog  - An exception occurred 
> while trying to open a channel: Io exception: NL Exception was generatedat 
> oracle.jdbc.driver.DatabaseError.throwSqlException(DatabaseError.java:112)
> at oracle.jdbc.driver.DatabaseError.throwSqlException(DatabaseError.java:146)
> at oracle.jdbc.driver.DatabaseError.throwSqlException(DatabaseError.java:255)
> at oracle.jdbc.driver.T4CConnection.logon(T4CConnection.java:387)
> at oracle.jdbc.driver.PhysicalConnection.(PhysicalConnection.java:441)
> at oracle.jdbc.driver.T4CConnection.(T4CConnection.java:165)
> at 
> oracle.jdbc.driver.T4CDriverExtension.getConnection(T4CDriverExtension.java:35)
> at oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver.connect(OracleDriver.java:801)
> at java.sql.DriverManager.getConnection(DriverManager.java:664)
> at java.sql.DriverManager.getConnection(DriverManager.java:208)
> at com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCCon

first time with oracle

[Theodore Petrosky]

I am trying to access an Oracle backend. I think I am almost there.

first. I created a Wonder framework and added ojdbc14.jar to the build path. In 
entity modeler I added for the URL:
jdbc:oracle:thin:@//10.1.3.250:1521/XE

and i gave it the user name and password.

Entity Modeler connected to the database and I was able to reverse compile the 
database. so far so good.

So I created a Wonder D2W app, added my reverse compiled framework, added 
EROraclePlugin. I added the ojdbc14.jar to my build path. 

I added into the propery file:
# Oracle Connection Dictionary
dbConnectUserGLOBAL=name
dbConnectPasswordGLOBAL=pw
dbConnectURLGLOBAL=jdbc:oracle:thin:@//10.1.3.250:1521/XE?capitalizeTypenames=true=convertToNull

the app compiled and ran then on the home page I see all the tables that I 
reverse compiled. so far so good until I click any Find button on any table:

_obtainOpenChannel -- com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext 
com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext@3dc4f166: failed to open database 
channel. Check your connection dictionary, and ensure your database is 
correctly configured.

am I missing something in my setup?

Oct 28 21:14:22 MySilentPartner[58575] WARN  er.extensions.eof.ERXModelGroup 
(null) - Clearing previous class descriptions
Oct 28 21:14:22 MySilentPartner[58575] DEBUG NSLog (null) - Using JDBCPlugIn 
'com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.EROraclePlugIn' for ERXJDBCAdaptor@2112380784
Oct 28 21:14:22 MySilentPartner[58575] INFO  
er.extensions.appserver.ERXStaticResourceRequestHandler  - Unable to get 
contents of file 'ERROR_NOT_FOUND_framework_app_filename_customizations.css' 
for uri: ERROR_NOT_FOUND_framework_app_filename_customizations.css
Oct 28 21:14:26 MySilentPartner[58575] DEBUG NSLog  - Using JDBCPlugIn 
'com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.EROraclePlugIn' for ERXJDBCAdaptor@1670927216
Oct 28 21:14:26 MySilentPartner[58575] DEBUG NSLog  -  connecting with 
dictionary: {password = ""; username = "spartner"; 
URL = 
"jdbc:oracle:thin:@//10.1.3.250:1521/XE?capitalizeTypenames=true=convertToNull";
 }
Oct 28 21:14:26 MySilentPartner[58575] WARN  NSLog  - An exception occurred 
while trying to open a channel: Io exception: NL Exception was generatedat 
oracle.jdbc.driver.DatabaseError.throwSqlException(DatabaseError.java:112)
at oracle.jdbc.driver.DatabaseError.throwSqlException(DatabaseError.java:146)
at oracle.jdbc.driver.DatabaseError.throwSqlException(DatabaseError.java:255)
at oracle.jdbc.driver.T4CConnection.logon(T4CConnection.java:387)
at oracle.jdbc.driver.PhysicalConnection.(PhysicalConnection.java:441)
at oracle.jdbc.driver.T4CConnection.(T4CConnection.java:165)
at 
oracle.jdbc.driver.T4CDriverExtension.getConnection(T4CDriverExtension.java:35)
at oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver.connect(OracleDriver.java:801)
at java.sql.DriverManager.getConnection(DriverManager.java:664)
at java.sql.DriverManager.getConnection(DriverManager.java:208)
at com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCContext.connect(JDBCContext.java:236)
at er.extensions.jdbc.ERXJDBCAdaptor$Context.connect(ERXJDBCAdaptor.java:400)
at com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCContext._tryConnect(JDBCContext.java:362)
at com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCContext._channelWillOpen(JDBCContext.java:505)
at com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCChannel.openChannel(JDBCChannel.java:111)
at 
com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext._openChannelWithLoginPanel(EODatabaseContext.java:1907)
at 
com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext._obtainOpenChannel(EODatabaseContext.java:1966)
at 
com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext._objectsWithFetchSpecificationEditingContext(EODatabaseContext.java:3054)
at 
com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext.objectsWithFetchSpecification(EODatabaseContext.java:3195)
at 
com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOObjectStoreCoordinator.objectsWithFetchSpecification(EOObjectStoreCoordinator.java:488)
at 
com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOEditingContext.objectsWithFetchSpecification(EOEditingContext.java:4069)
at er.extensions.eof.ERXEC.objectsWithFetchSpecification(ERXEC.java:1307)
at 
com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseDataSource.fetchObjects(EODatabaseDataSource.java:589)
at com.webobjects.appserver.WODisplayGroup.fetch(WODisplayGroup.java:2132)
at er.extensions.appserver.ERXDisplayGroup.fetch(ERXDisplayGroup.java:196)
at er.directtoweb.pages.ERD2WListPage._fetchDisplayGroup(ERD2WListPage.java:466)
at er.directtoweb.pages.ERD2WListPage.setupPhase(ERD2WListPage.java:568)
at er.directtoweb.pages.ERD2WListPage.appendToResponse(ERD2WListPage.java:499)
at com.webobjects.appserver.WOSession.appendToResponse(WOSession.java:1385)
at er.extensions.appserver.ERXSession.appendToResponse(ERXSession.java:565)
at 
com.webobjects.appserver.WOApplication.appendToResponse(WOApplication.java:1794)
at 
er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication.appendToResponse(ERXApplication.java:1988)
at 
er.extensions.appserver.ERXComponentRequestHandler._dispatchWithPreparedPage(ERXComponentRequestHandler.java:190)
at 

Re: Centos Deploy

[Theodore Petrosky]

that is not the updated deploy files. Try putting a slash / in the path and 
click submit

If you use the newest deploy, it is fixed.

Ted


> On Oct 27, 2016, at 12:53 PM, Gino Pacitti  wrote:
> 
> Hi all...
> I used the Yum install to deploy to Centos 6 and womonitor and wotaskd are 
> running. 
> 
> My only issue is that when I try to add an App and use the Unix path action 
> link I get no directory listings of the underlying OS file structure… So I 
> cannot find my app.
> 
> Any help in where to look ?
> 
> Gino
> 
> 
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wiki problem

[Theodore Petrosky]

I was just on the wiki. I have to say I was totally lost. I finally found the 
‘how tos’ section and tried to edit something that I was working on. I received 
a warning every minute "Error saving draft. No draft has been saved.”  I don’t 
know that this is a problem.

I add things here so I can find how I did something last year!

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Re: EO awake ??

[Theodore Petrosky]

I must be doing something else wrong. 

I selected the relation ‘security' in my Person entity and I found and checked 
“Owns Destination” in the Advanced tab.

If I create a new person entity, the security entity is not created (unless I 
create it in the init or awakeFromInsertion method). 

what’s wrong with this picture

please.

Ted


> On Sep 12, 2016, at 12:22 PM, Johann Werner <j...@oyosys.de> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ted,
> 
> the detail is in the word „owned“. For that there is an extra checkbox on the 
> relationship panel in EOModeler. If you check that, the „owned“ Entity at the 
> end of the relationship is automatically created by EOF and assigned to the 
> owning Entity.
> 
> jw
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 12.09.2016 um 17:31 schrieb Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com>:
>> 
>> Chuck, could you expound a little here? I refer to “An owned, mandatory, 
>> to-one will get created automatically by EOF”
>> 
>> Maybe I am not modeling this correctly. I am creating a person entity and a 
>> security entity. then I create a relationship of person to-one security 
>> where security can not be null. (optional is not selected)
>> 
>> In my D2W app, if I create a new person, the security entity relation is not 
>> automatically created. I thought I had to create this in the EO’s init, or 
>> awakeFromInsertion methods.
>> 
>> Am I supposed to do something more to the model to make this “automatic”?
>> 
>> Ted
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 6, 2016, at 2:14 PM, Chuck Hill <ch...@gevityinc.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Did you do the check for null after the call to super?
>>> 
>>> An owned, mandatory, to-one will get created automatically by EOF.  I am 
>>> pretty sure that is what is happening and then you are creating and 
>>> assigning a second one.
>>> 
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: <webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com> on 
>>> behalf of Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com>
>>> Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 10:08 AM
>>> To: Johann Werner <j...@oyosys.com>
>>> Cc: WebObjects-Dev <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>
>>> Subject: Re: EO awake ??
>>> 
>>> I tried the first suggestion of wrapping the createSecurity in a check to 
>>> see if it is null and I got the same result.
>>> 
>>> then I moved the createSecurity method call into the init method and I get 
>>> the same issue. I could probably trick it by making the security entity not 
>>> mandatory. but as the createSecurity is in the init call, the person will 
>>> always get a security.
>>> 
>>> Ted
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 6, 2016, at 12:44 PM, Johann Werner <j...@oyosys.de> wrote:
>>> Hi Ted,
>>> why not just check if there is already a value in your awakeFromInsertion?
>>> public void awakeFromInsertion(EOEditingContext editingContext) {
>>>super.awakeFromInsertion(editingContext);
>>>if (security() == null) {
>>> setSecurity(Security.createSecurity(editingContext, true, true, 
>>> true, true, true));
>>>}
>>> }
>>> But probably you should be using the init(EOEditingContext editingContext) 
>>> method instead, which is highly advisable.
>>> jw
>>> Am 06.09.2016 um 18:27 schrieb Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com>:
>>> I have a to one relation Person to one Security. I keep all my security 
>>> booleans in entity Security.
>>> I am overriding awakeFromInsertion so that when I create a new person, it 
>>> is assigned a security entity.
>>> I have a problem in migrations. I have a postupgrade method that creates a 
>>> person. in this method I have:
>>>   Person.createPerson(editingContext, new NSTimestamp(), "Theodore", 
>>> true, "Petrosky", “pw", “user", Security.createSecurity(editingContext, 
>>> true, true, true, true, true));
>>> the security is mandatory as it should be. However on first run (to run the 
>>> migrations), I end up with two security entities. Obviously, when a person 
>>> is created and inserted the awake is fired and I get this orphan.
>>> How can I eliminate this extra security entity? I was hoping that I could 
>>> just not add a security entity in the createPerson line, but then my app 
>>> complains that security is mandatory.
>>> Person.createPerson(editingContext, new NSTimestamp(), "Theodore", true, 
>>> "Petrosky&

Re: Where did this error come from???

[Theodore Petrosky]

I had to go to ERModernDirectToWeb and ‘refresh’.




> On Sep 12, 2016, at 1:04 PM, Fabian Peters <lists.fab...@e-lumo.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ted,
> 
> ERMD2WColumnSelector is a new component that got added on 3 days ago. I just 
> checked out the current wonder master and cannot reproduce the issue. The 
> change to ERMDSimpleListePage is in the same commit as the new 
> ERMD2WColumnSelector.
> So my guess would be that you have an incomplete build/install. Cleaning your 
> workspace and/or building and installing wonder should fix it.
> 
> Fabian
> 
> P.S.: In case anybody actually ventures to enable it: It looks like the SVG 
> icon of the column selector behaves rather strangely. I'll have a look at it.
> 
>> Am 12.09.2016 um 17:52 schrieb Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com>:
>> 
>> I just created a new D2W app, I added my framework with my model. When I run 
>> the app, I get a log in screen, I log in and see the Search all page,  If I 
>> click find on any entity the app crashes with:
>> 
>> Sep 12 11:47:55 TesxtD2W[62237] WARN  NSLog  - 
>> Sep 12 11:47:55 TesxtD2W[62237] DEBUG NSLog  - DirectToWeb WebAssistant 
>> launch line: appletviewer 
>> http://localhost:62237/cgi-bin/WebObjects/TesxtD2W.woa/wa/D2WActions/openWebAssistant
>> Sep 12 11:47:55 TesxtD2W[62237] DEBUG NSLog  - Waiting for requests...
>> Sep 12 11:47:57 TesxtD2W[62237] INFO  NSLog  - ***DirectAction.loginAction - 
>> username: null : password: null***
>> Sep 12 11:48:00 TesxtD2W[62237] DEBUG NSLog  -  === Begin Internal 
>> Transaction
>> Sep 12 11:48:00 TesxtD2W[62237] DEBUG NSLog  -  evaluateExpression: 
>> > t0.accountingcontact, t0.addressline1, t0.addressline2, t0.city, 
>> t0.companyname, t0.id, t0.isactive, t0.phonenumber, t0.postcode, t0.state 
>> FROM companydata t0" withBindings: >
>> Sep 12 11:48:00 TesxtD2W[62237] DEBUG NSLog  - 1 row(s) processed
>> Sep 12 11:48:00 TesxtD2W[62237] DEBUG NSLog  -  === Commit Internal 
>> Transaction
>> Sep 12 11:48:00 TesxtD2W[62237] WARN  NSLog (ListCompanyData) - 
>> WOBundle.lookForClassInAllBundles(ERMD2WColumnSelector) failed!
>> Sep 12 11:48:01 TesxtD2W[62237] WARN  NSLog (ListCompanyData) - 
>> : Exception occurred 
>> while handling request:
>> com.webobjects.foundation.NSForwardException 
>> [java.lang.ClassNotFoundException] Cannot find class or component named 
>> ERMD2WColumnSelector in runtime or in a loadable 
>> bundle:> parsing template for Component : 
>> 'file:/Users/asacksadmin/Repository/WonderSource/Frameworks/D2W/ERModernDirectToWeb/build/ERModernDirectToWeb.framework/Resources/ERMDSimpleListPageRepetition.wo':
>> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: Cannot find class or component named 
>> ERMD2WColumnSelector in runtime or in a loadable bundle
>> [2016-9-12 11:48:1 EDT]  
>> com.webobjects.foundation.NSForwardException 
>> [java.lang.ClassNotFoundException] Cannot find class or component named 
>> ERMD2WColumnSelector in runtime or in a loadable 
>> bundle:> parsing template for Component : 
>> 'file:/Users/asacksadmin/Repository/WonderSource/Frameworks/D2W/ERModernDirectToWeb/build/ERModernDirectToWeb.framework/Resources/ERMDSimpleListPageRepetition.wo':
>> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: Cannot find class or component named 
>> ERMD2WColumnSelector in runtime or in a loadable bundle
>>  at 
>> com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOComponentDefinition.template(WOComponentDefinition.java:375)
>>  at com.webobjects.appserver.WOComponent.template(WOComponent.java:499)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Do you need to see more? what is this?
>> NSLog (ListCompanyData) - 
>> WOBundle.lookForClassInAllBundles(ERMD2WColumnSelector) failed!
>> Sep 12 11:48:01 TesxtD2W[62237] WARN  NSLog (ListCompanyData) - 
>> : Exception occurred 
>> while handling request:
>> com.webobjects.foundation.NSForwardException 
>> [java.lang.ClassNotFoundException] Cannot find class or component named 
>> ERMD2WColumnSelector in runtime or in a loadable 
>> bundle:> parsing template for Component : 
>> 
>> this is a new app just minted 5 minutes ago.
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Re: Code review for refreshToOneRelationshipWithKey

[Theodore Petrosky]

I thought we all understood that you there is just magic in there and we 
shouldn’t look that gift horse too closely in the mouth! 

Magic



> On Sep 6, 2016, at 2:29 PM, Ricardo Parada  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I just tried the ERJGroupsSynchronizer and it worked. I was worried that 
> there might be a delay in the synchronization such that the thread updating 
> the user interface might not pick up the change on time and would display the 
> new info. I'm curious how it does it and whether it is possible for the 
> change not to get to the user interface on time. 
> 
> Thanks Paul and Ted. 
> 
> On Sep 4, 2016, at 7:39 PM, Paul Hoadley  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ricardo,
>> 
>> On 5 Sep 2016, at 6:23 AM, Ricardo Parada > > wrote:
>> 
>>> At that time I did not have a need for synchronization between EOF stacks.  
>>> I was also overwhelmed by the xml configuration file but now that I hear it 
>>> again it sounds like there is no need to mess with it. I like that he said 
>>> that he had used that for years and was never able to deadlock it during 
>>> extensive testing and that the caches were accurate. That is good. 
>>> 
>>> I did try to use the ERXObjectStoreCoordinatorPool in the past. However for 
>>> our background threads that are spawned to do work I wanted to make sure 
>>> that they had a separate pool so that  they did not interfere with the 
>>> foreground threads processing requests from the user. I also wanted 
>>> connections to the database closed when an object store coordinator was 
>>> returned to the pool by all the thread(s) using it. That created a better 
>>> experience and conserved resources. 
>>> 
>>> The synchronization though, it does look like it will solve my problem. I 
>>> definitely want to play with that. I assume that you are using the second 
>>> synchronizer based on JBoss stuff, right? Mike mentioned that he would not 
>>> use the first one for production. 
>> 
>> We’ve been using ERJGroupsSynchronizer.framework in a couple of contexts for 
>> at least 12 months, and haven’t seen any issues.
>> 
>> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/ERJGroupsSynchronizer+Framework
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Paul Hoadley
>> http://logicsquad.net/ 
>> 
>> 
>> 

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Re: Maven - No template found for component Main

[Theodore Petrosky]

JMHO but I think we should keep the money in the association, and we should 
promote the Kickstarter project.

Put out an email every week to get everyone’s attention to sign up and put in 
some money. I’m ready!




> On Sep 4, 2016, at 10:30 PM, Pascal Robert  wrote:
> 
> 
>> Le 4 sept. 2016 à 19:44, Paul Hoadley  a écrit :
>> 
>> On 5 Sep 2016, at 7:46 AM, Hugi Thordarson  wrote:
>> 
>>> This is probably the third or fourth time this is mentioned. We need to fix 
>>> this.
>>> 
>>> But anyway; WO with Maven seriously rocks, once you get going :).
>> 
>> I would seriously donate to a Kickstarter project for you to write the 
>> definitive guide for transitioning to Maven. Just saying’.
> 
> If someone could do it for less than 1000$, the Association can pay for it.
> 
>> 
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>> http://logicsquad.net/
>> 
>> 
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Re: Code review for refreshToOneRelationshipWithKey

[Theodore Petrosky]

Yes, JGroups (http://www.jgroups.org <http://www.jgroups.org/>) it really was 
so painless. It worked right out of the box. I linked the framework, copied the 
properties information, added a groupName and the entity that I wanted to 
synchronize. It was fun watching the logs on my development box. If I touched 
the entity I could watch the update happen. Really slick.

I had it running for three years on a production server and never had a hiccup!

I seem to remember that I even had a conversation with Bela Ban (the author of 
JGroups), he helped with some of the xml settings as I wanted to update my 
version of JGoups and he had removed some of the methods that were deprecated 
when Wonders version was created. I see he has a version 4 alpha now. I think I 
will wait a while before jumping on that update.



Ted




> On Sep 4, 2016, at 4:53 PM, Ricardo Parada <rpar...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Thank you Ted for that link. I was actually present at that presentation. 
> 
> At that time I did not have a need for synchronization between EOF stacks.  I 
> was also overwhelmed by the xml configuration file but now that I hear it 
> again it sounds like there is no need to mess with it. I like that he said 
> that he had used that for years and was never able to deadlock it during 
> extensive testing and that the caches were accurate. That is good. 
> 
> I did try to use the ERXObjectStoreCoordinatorPool in the past. However for 
> our background threads that are spawned to do work I wanted to make sure that 
> they had a separate pool so that  they did not interfere with the foreground 
> threads processing requests from the user. I also wanted connections to the 
> database closed when an object store coordinator was returned to the pool by 
> all the thread(s) using it. That created a better experience and conserved 
> resources. 
> 
> The synchronization though, it does look like it will solve my problem. I 
> definitely want to play with that. I assume that you are using the second 
> synchronizer based on JBoss stuff, right? Mike mentioned that he would not 
> use the first one for production. 
> 
> Thank you. 
> 
> On Sep 3, 2016, at 11:44 PM, Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com 
> <mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Mike Schrag gave a talk on this.
>> 
>> http://www.wocommunity.org/podcasts/wowodc/west09/WOWODC09W-WonderInDepth.mov
>>  
>> <http://www.wocommunity.org/podcasts/wowodc/west09/WOWODC09W-WonderInDepth.mov>
>> 
>> take a listen to the section at around 19 minutes in. I reread your original 
>> post, and I think this IS what you are looking for.
>> 
>> again jmo!
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Ricardo Parada <rpar...@mac.com 
>>> <mailto:rpar...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Aaron that is a great suggestion. I will give that a try as it does 
>>> not require messing with snapshots and getting down to lower layers of EOF. 
>>> I think I would feel better with an implementation like that. 
>>> 
>>> As for ERXJGroupsSynchronizer, I am not familiar with that and can't really 
>>> tell how to use it. It also sounds like it might replace edits in progress. 
>>> Thanks Ted. I had heard of this class before but did not know it was being 
>>> used successfully. It is good to know. 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2016, at 4:45 PM, Aaron Rosenzweig <recu...@cocoanutstech.com 
>>> <mailto:recu...@cocoanutstech.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Ricardo,
>>>> 
>>>> That’s some clever WO-ninja magic you got going on there. I’ve never 
>>>> replaced the original snapshot of an EO before.
>>>> 
>>>> If it works, great - I won’t knock it but I’d be scared without flexing it 
>>>> (using it a bunch). 
>>>> 
>>>> Another idea… 
>>>> 
>>>> 1) hold onto the “changesFromCommittedSnapshot” so you can refer to it.
>>>> 
>>>> 2) in your fetchSpec make “setRefereshesRefetchedObjects()” to true - so 
>>>> when you go round trip you’ll update the EO.
>>>> 
>>>> 3) reapply your changes from the committed snapshot.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> AARON ROSENZWEIG / Chat 'n Bike <http://www.chatnbike.com/>
>>>> e:  aa...@chatnbike.com <mailto:aa...@chatnbike.com>  t:  (301) 956-2319   
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 3, 2016, at 9:34 AM, Ricardo Parada <rpar...@mac.com 
>>>>> <mailto:rpar...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
&

Re: Direct2Web Examples

[Theodore Petrosky]

I clicked that link and it played fine in Safari,


> On Aug 6, 2016, at 5:57 PM, anon <mysaremin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> An example would be:
> 
> http://www.wocommunity.org/podcasts/wowodc/2010/GettingStartedWithWonder.mov 
> <http://www.wocommunity.org/podcasts/wowodc/2010/GettingStartedWithWonder.mov>
> "Video can't be played because the file is corrupt."
> 
> I assume this is a firefox thing...
> 
> On 06.08.2016 23:47, Theodore Petrosky wrote:
>> what is the link you are using for the videos?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 5:29 PM, anon <mysaremin...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:mysaremin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was able to get it to work by manually adding h2plugin  and the h2.jar to 
>>> the build path. M2eclipse is sadly not really helping. Most of the problems 
>>> I do face at the moment are related to maven. But still, I am getting there.
>>> 
>>> I was trying to watch some screencasts from the wiki but a lot of the video 
>>> files are invalid (thats what firefox says). Is that the same for everyone 
>>> or is it only my webbrowser that is bugging? 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> On 06.08.2016 21:39, Theodore Petrosky wrote:
>>>> I had the same problem myself. My ‘solution’ was to switch the database to 
>>>> postgresql. I realize this doesn’t address the problem, but sometimes you 
>>>> just have to get work done.
>>>> 
>>>> Ted
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 3:19 PM, anon <mysaremin...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:mysaremin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> I have decided that I was going to spend some time learning D2W. I have 
>>>>> been trying to get the ERMovies example to work, but the h2 database 
>>>>> seems to not be started when the application is run. Am I supposed to 
>>>>> start the jdbc:h2:file myself in the code or is the example supposed to 
>>>>> start the database automatically? Here is the error that I get:
>>>>> 
>>>>> failed to open database channel. Check your connection dictionary, and 
>>>>> ensure your database is correctly configured.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
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Re: Direct2Web Examples

[Theodore Petrosky]

I had the same problem myself. My ‘solution’ was to switch the database to 
postgresql. I realize this doesn’t address the problem, but sometimes you just 
have to get work done.

Ted


> On Aug 6, 2016, at 3:19 PM, anon  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I have decided that I was going to spend some time learning D2W. I have been 
> trying to get the ERMovies example to work, but the h2 database seems to not 
> be started when the application is run. Am I supposed to start the 
> jdbc:h2:file myself in the code or is the example supposed to start the 
> database automatically? Here is the error that I get:
> 
> failed to open database channel. Check your connection dictionary, and ensure 
> your database is correctly configured.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: webobjects with maven

[Theodore Petrosky]

I am curious, what happens when you create a NEW wonder applicaiton and run it? 
 Is that failing?  Or is it when you are trying to update an old WO app to 
wonder?


> On Aug 1, 2016, at 1:41 PM, anon  wrote:
> 
> I thought I had solved this problem but it turns out that I haven't. I have 
> been developing with WOApplication and everything is working fine. When I 
> switch to ERXApplication, then I get this error that I already showed here:
> 
>  No template found 
> for component Main at "null"
> 
> I am talking about the most basic of application (Hello World) which returns 
> a blank page. While debugging, It seems that the 
> _componentDefinitionCache.objectForKey(componentKey) returns a NullObject 
> instead of returning a null like in the original WOApplication. Anyone has a 
> quick fix for this?
> Thanks again.
> On 13.07.2016 18:14, Ramsey Gurley wrote:
>> You’re missing some boilerplate in Application.java.
>> 
>>  @Override
>>  public void finishInitialization() {
>>  super.finishInitialization();
>>  if (isDirectConnectEnabled()) {
>>  registerRequestHandler(new JarResourceRequestHandler(), 
>> "_wr_");
>>  registerRequestHandler(new JarResourceRequestHandler(), 
>> "wr");
>>  }
>>  }
>> 
>>  /**
>>   * Determines the WOSession class to instantiate.
>>   *
>>   * @see com.webobjects.appserver.WOApplication#_sessionClass()
>>   */
>>  @Override
>>  protected Class _sessionClass() {
>>  return Session.class;
>>  }
>> 
>>  /**
>>   * Install patches including ensuring that Main is correctly resolved at
>>   * runtime.
>>   *
>>   * @see er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication#installPatches()
>>   */
>>  @Override
>>  public void installPatches() {
>>  super.installPatches();
>> 
>>  // component classes
>>  installPatch(Main.class);
>> 
>>  // action classes
>>  installPatch(DirectAction.class);
>>  }
>> 
>>  /**
>>   * Installs patching for a given class.
>>   *
>>   * @param clazz
>>   *the class to register.
>>   */
>>  private static void installPatch(final Class clazz) {
>>  ERXPatcher.setClassForName(clazz, clazz.getSimpleName());
>>  _NSUtilities.registerPackage(clazz.getPackage().getName());
>>  }
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 12, 2016, at 5:28 PM, anon > > wrote:
>> 
>>> The first archetype I did use  was crashing on "Run as WOApplication". I 
>>> did try another one with "ERXApplication" and searched the mailing list for 
>>> an answer. I can now start the application, but now I get the following 
>>> error:
>>> 
>>> DEBUG NSLog  -  No 
>>> template found for component Main...
>>> 
>>> I have searched the list and could not figure out what the solution was.
>>> 
>>> Are there people out there who have WOApplication running in big WO 
>>> Projects? I can see things like these getting out of control when the 
>>> project gets big.
>>> 
>>> On 07/13/2016 12:21 AM, Ramsey Gurley wrote:
 This is what works for me, starting from nothing.
 
 0. Install Java8
 1. Install Eclipse for Committers
 2. Install WOLips and m2e plugins
 3. Create ~.m2/settings.xml that points to wocommunity repository
 http://maven.wocommunity.org/content/groups/public/ 
 
 (I actually have a Nexus repository manager I point to, and it does this 
 part. The wiki.wocommunity.org  has an 
 example settings.xml you can use though)
 4. Add WORemote archetypes catalog in eclipse:
 http://maven.wocommunity.org/service/local/repositories/snapshots/content/archetype-catalog.xml
  
 
 5. Add lifecycle mappings in eclipse for any plugin executions you need 
 eclipse to ignore.
 6. File, New, Other…, Maven Project, next>>, Catalog: WORemote, Include 
 Snapshot Archetypes
 Pick the appropriate project and create.
 
 You probably also want to search the list for JarResourceRequestHandler 
 and some additional boilerplate to stick in your application’s 
 didFinishLaunching() method.
 
 On Jul 12, 2016, at 3:05 PM, anon  
  wrote:
 
> Hello everyone,
> after a 6 years hiatus from WebObjects, I am back again. Web development 
> out there is in a sad state. I decided to give WO another try. I wanted 
> to use maven to manage my dependencies; I like the predictability and the 
> structure of maven instead of the free form of ant or gradle. Anyway, I 
> was able to create a "Hello World" Application but I 

Re: Looking for strategy

[Theodore Petrosky]

Does the ERDQueryDataSourceDelegateInterface help you here?

https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/D2W+Flow+Control 



> On Jul 22, 2016, at 9:43 AM, Markus Ruggiero  
> wrote:
> 
> Folks,
> 
> My app has some 50+ entities. About 2 third of them have data that is 
> specfiic to a Region, the rest of the entities is Region agnostic.
> 
> Example:
> Article toMany Descriptions
> Article is Region agnostic but can have Region specific descriptions, thus 
> Descriptions have an optional toOne to Region
> 
> Background: A user of the app is assigned a Region during login. He must be 
> allowed to only see Region agnostic data or objects that are assigned to the 
> current Region only.
> 
> What I want is a generic way to have something like the following SQL 
> generated by the Frameworks:
> 
> select * from article where some_selection_criteria;  -- no region reference
> select * from description where some_selection_criteria (AND REGION_ID IS 
> NULL OR REGION_ID = A_GIVEN_REGION_ID);
> 
> This must also function for queries like: select all articles that have 
> description for region XYZ.
> 
> I am thinking along the following lines: attach some code deep in the 
> framework to add such a restricting clause to where for every select for any 
> region specific table.
> 
> How would I do this? Any better ideas?
> 
> Thanks a lot
> ---markus---
> 
> 
> 
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