Re: [WISPA] Commission Sales
You really need to offer something weekly even if it's small...most people have bills to pay. On 07/03/2014 11:32 AM, John Thomas wrote: Normally sales people will work off a base + commission. Sometimes the base is a draw, or partial commission in advance. /Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID/ Carl Shivers cshiv...@aristotle.net wrote: I went to a presentation on marketing and sales at WispAmerica. One of the topics discussed was your sales force. Both presenters recommended the use of sales on a strict commission basis. So, we decided to give it a try and hire a sales person to work off of commission for all of our ISP products. So far, after running ads in the local newspaper, we have been unable to find this type of sales person. I was wondering if any of you had recommendations or information on how you found a commission sales person. *Carl Shivers* Chief Information Officer | ARISTOTLE* *cshiv...@aristotle.net mailto:cshiv...@aristotle.net *Description: Description: aristotle_email_signature_logo* http://www.aristotle.net/* *401 West Capitol Avenue - Suite 700 • Little Rock, Arkansas 72201 *(P)*501.374.4638 tel:501.374.4638*(TF)*800.995.2747 tel:800.995.2747* (F)*501.376.1377 tel:501.376.1377 aristotle_email_signature_badge_facbook http://www.facebook.com/AristotleIncaristotle_email_signature_badge_twitter http://twitter.com/aristotlebuzzaristotle_email_signature_badge_linkedin http://aris.bz/ArisLinkedIn *(W) Aristotle.net http://www.aristotle.net/ **(B) Aristotle Buzz Blog http://www.aristotlebuzz.com/* -- Spectra Access 25 Lowell Street Manchester, NH 03042 603-296-0760 www.spectraaccess.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
What could go wrong with Comcast taking up yet more 5GHz of spectrum...[/sarcasm off] On 11/14/2013 01:40 PM, ralph wrote: I hope the links at the bottom come through. --- Comcast needs the FCC to open up the 5 GHz spectrum band to power next-generation Wi-Fi services that could allow it to deliver wireless broadband at speeds of up to 1 Gbps, SVP of Business Development Tom Nagel testified at a House Energy and Commerce hearing on Wednesday. Nagel disclosed in his prepared testimony that Comcast has expanded the number of Wi-Fi access points for Xfinity high-speed Internet customers to 350,000. The nation's largest cable MSO also began deploying wireless gateways from Cisco earlier this year that Comcast has said may be able to power millions of neighborhood hotspots. While Comcast already is already using the 5 GHz band, Nagel said it needs more of the unlicensed spectrum to meet demand from subscribers for Wi-Fi. It faces potential opposition from Toyota and other automobile manufacturers who want to use the 5 GHz band to deliver next-generation connected car applications, including applications that would warn drivers of collision threats. Toyota principal researcher John Kenney raised concerns about possible interference from Wi-Fi services at Wednesday's hearing. We have been actively engaged with the Wi-Fi community and other stakeholders who are exploring possible sharing solutions that will alleviate any risk of harmful interference from unlicensed devices… But we're not there yet and it's going to take a bit more time to see if we can get there, Kenney said in his prepared testimony. For more: - see Nagel's prepared testimony http://links.mkt1985.com/ctt?kn=207ms=NzE0MjgxOQS2r=NDc2MTk4ODcyMzcS1b=0j=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0mt=2rj=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0rt=0 (.pdf) - see Kenney's prepared testimony http://links.mkt1985.com/ctt?kn=187ms=NzE0MjgxOQS2r=NDc2MTk4ODcyMzcS1b=0j=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0mt=2rj=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0rt=0 (.pdf) - see Comcast blog post http://links.mkt1985.com/ctt?kn=118ms=NzE0MjgxOQS2r=NDc2MTk4ODcyMzcS1b=0j=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0mt=2rj=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0rt=0 - /Broadcasting Cable/ has this story http://links.mkt1985.com/ctt?kn=190ms=NzE0MjgxOQS2r=NDc2MTk4ODcyMzcS1b=0j=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0mt=2rj=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0rt=0 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] iPerf as a Real-World Performance Simulation Tool
On 11/12/2013 09:15 PM, Andrew Jones wrote: Careful using FTP as, particularly on fast links, you may find yourself measuring disk IO instead. If you can exceed modern day disk I/O on a wireless network...I'm impressed. Bret ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] iPerf as a Real-World Performance Simulation Tool
I've used it on a PI and found it to be very accurate. Next to Iperf, put/get files from an FTP server provides good throughput measurements. On 11/12/2013 02:49 PM, Clay Stewart wrote: Is it accurate using it on a Raspberry-pi? I was loading up my first one today to try out Iperf. Since someone on this thread mentioned 'CPU', I was wondering if that would be an issue on a PI? Clocked at 800Mhz.. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: iPerf is very accurate in what it tells you. What you draw from those conclusions may or may not be accurate. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Sam w...@csilogan.com mailto:w...@csilogan.com *To: *wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, November 12, 2013 12:50:51 PM *Subject: *[WISPA] iPerf as a Real-World Performance Simulation Tool Has anyone used iPerf before? I'm curious of your thoughts as to the reliability, and how the results would map to a real-world environment. For example, a friend was testing some 3.65 radios (which had no connection to the Internet) using iPerf. Based upon the iPerf results, a determination was made regarding maximum concurrent users per AP and maximum aggregate bandwidth capacity of the radio. For the maximum concurrent users I believe they tested this at several different download and upload speed for the fictional users. Having never used iPerf, I don't know if the results from their tests (which were very poor by the way - much lower than common configurations of DL/UL rates as well as number of users per AP I've read many of you describing on these lists) map reasonably to what one would expect from a given AP, or if they tend to be wonky. Thanks, Sam ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- -- SCS Clay Stewart CEO, Tye River Farms, Inc., DBA Stewart Computer Services 434.263.6363 O 434.942.6510 C cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com mailto:cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com “We Keep You Up and Running” Wireless Broadband Programming Network Services ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] question for the group
That of course would imply that the FCC themselves were professionals and in my dealings with them I haven't found that to be the case! On 09/19/2013 11:06 PM, Blair Davis wrote: Oh boy! IANAL... That phrase 'Professional Installer' is likely the single most contentious thing the FCC has done in the last 20 years... In general, it seems that as long as you follow the EIRP and frequency rules and don't cause interference to a licensed user, all is good. OTOH, if you run way over the power limits, _/operate out of band/___or /_interfere with licensed users_/, they will, sooner or later, come find you. Others have other opinions. My opinion is that the terms 'Professional Installer' and ' Professionally Installed', have no real meaning as the FCC has, to the best of my knowledge, failed to define either term. YMMV -- On 9/19/2013 10:53 PM, Chris Stradtman wrote: Hi all, Most of my work is done inside so I don't really deal with most of the WISP issues. However I'm being asked by a client to do an outside install. This is likely to be in the 5Ghz range. I've found a reference to Devices must be professionally installed when operating in the 5470 – 5725 MHz band I'm aware of avoidance of TDWR systems and the allowed and disallowed frequencies in that band. However, I can't find reference to what is meant by a Professional Installer. Is there a licensing program that I can't seem to find by googling?? Thanks in advance, Chris Stradtman ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- West Michigan Wireless ISP Allegan, Michigan 49010 269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Industry Accronym
Best to just stay with standard acronyms and say you're deploying technologies based on 4G or to expand a bit Fixed-4G technologies...let the Cell phone carriers do the marketing leg work while us little guys reap the benefits. Technically if your deploying 802.11n then you meeting the majority of 4G technical requirements and most users have no clue what any of this means anyways so it's always best to employ the KISS principle. On 04/17/2013 04:07 AM, Coenraad Loubser wrote: +1 Loving FiWi. (We use Wi-Fi to turn the industry on its head!) Coenraad Loubser WISH Networks (Pty) Ltd. 2nd Floor, Merriman Place, Cnr. Merriman Bird Str, Stellenbosch, 7600, ZA Office: 087 805 7480 http://+27878057480 Cell: 073 772 1223 Skype: Wish_Support Email: coenr...@wish.org.za mailto:coenr...@wish.org.za Web: http://wish.org.za -- Spending Money is like watering a plant. Your money is your ultimate ballot. On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:02 AM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com mailto:jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: +1 for FiWi (for fixed wireless - the broadband is almost a given) Pronounced fy why On 4/16/2013 5:17 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: FiWi IMO Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 16, 2013 8:15 PM, Jorge Santiago jscnetwo...@gmail.com mailto:jscnetwo...@gmail.com wrote: Gino, honestly that sounds weird! LOL On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: So I was thinking that us as Wisp need a service acronym to market… like WiFi, 4G, LTE and DSL…. And it hit me… Fixed Wireless Broadband… FiWi-B Promunced feewee bee? No? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 tel:787.273.4143 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author (2003) - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks Serving the WISP Community since 1993 www.ask-wi.com http://www.ask-wi.com 760-678-5033jun...@ask-wi.com mailto:jun...@ask-wi.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Industry Accronym
If trademark was a problem then you wouldn't be seeing a gazillion commercials from ATT and Verizon touting their 4G networks. That's really becoming just an umbrella term anyways so it's best for us small guys to piggy back off of what consumers are becoming familiar withremember with what happen with WiMAX. I find when presenting to business, the best reaction I get from executives who are technology challenged is when I say we deploy Advance 4G fixed wireless services. They have no idea what the term actually refers to technically, but they've heard it used enough by Verizon and company to know it's probably a good thing...LOL. Hell if anything WISPA networks are probably more 4G complain then ATT or Verizon! *Be based on an all-IP packet switched network. *Have peak data rates of up to approximately 100 Mbit/s *Be able to dynamically share and use the network resources to support more simultaneous users per cell. *Using scalable channel bandwidths of 5–20 MHz, optionally up to 40 MHz. *The ability to offer high quality of service for next generation multimedia support. On 04/17/2013 09:37 AM, Brough Turner wrote: Gino, I don't think so..., at least not in the US. There are many compound word registered trademarks that start or end with 4G but the only active entry I find for 4G by itself is this one which is not in the field of communictions: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=docstate=4006:6ydxa7.2.46 Charmed.Com Inc. of Beverly Hills did register several graphics with 4G in them back in 2000, but they let their registrations lapse. LTE is a registered trademark of ETSI (not 3GPP). Thanks, Brough Brough Turner netBlazr Inc. – Free your Broadband! Website http://broughturner.com/ | Google+ https://plus.google.com/102447512447094746687/posts?hl=en | Twitter https://twitter.com/#%21/brough | LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/broughturner | Facebook http://www.facebook.com/brough.turner | Blog http://blogs.broughturner.com/ | netBlazr Inc. http://www.netblazr.com/ On 4/17/13 5:32 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: 4G is a trademark of the 3gppp… Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Bret Clark *Sent:* Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:23 AM *To:* wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Industry Accronym Best to just stay with standard acronyms and say you're deploying technologies based on 4G or to expand a bit Fixed-4G technologies...let the Cell phone carriers do the marketing leg work while us little guys reap the benefits. Technically if your deploying 802.11n then you meeting the majority of 4G technical requirements and most users have no clue what any of this means anyways so it's always best to employ the KISS principle. On 04/17/2013 04:07 AM, Coenraad Loubser wrote: +1 Loving FiWi. (We use Wi-Fi to turn the industry on its head!) Coenraad Loubser WISH Networks (Pty) Ltd. 2nd Floor, Merriman Place, Cnr. Merriman Bird Str, Stellenbosch, 7600, ZA Office: 087 805 7480 http://+27878057480 Cell: 073 772 1223 Skype: Wish_Support Email: coenr...@wish.org.za mailto:coenr...@wish.org.za Web: http://wish.org.za http://wish.org.za -- Spending Money is like watering a plant. Your money is your ultimate ballot. On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:02 AM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com mailto:jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: +1 for FiWi (for fixed wireless - the broadband is almost a given) Pronounced fy why On 4/16/2013 5:17 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: FiWi IMO Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 16, 2013 8:15 PM, Jorge Santiago jscnetwo...@gmail.com mailto:jscnetwo...@gmail.com wrote: Gino, honestly that sounds weird! LOL On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: So I was thinking that us as Wisp need a service acronym to market… like WiFi, 4G, LTE and DSL…. And it hit me… Fixed Wireless Broadband… FiWi-B Promunced feewee bee? No? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 tel:787.273.4143 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless
Re: [WISPA] Fixed Wireless growing faster than Cable and DSL
Well as they say about statistics...there is always one to prove any
argument!
On 04/16/2013 11:07 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
Damn statistics!
On Tuesday, April 16, 2013, Brian Webster wrote:
Remember when looking at stats like this that the cable and DSL
industries have been doing this a lot longer and have already
built up a large number of customers in a mature market. Say you
have 8 thousand customers, to get a 7.2% increase you would have
to add 576 customers. If you are a new fiber to the home or
wireless operator and have 500 customers, you only need to add 100
customers to get a 20% increase. A fixed wireless operator with
1000 customers would only have to add 120 new subscribers to get
that 12% increase. If you look at the “year adds” column in this
article, the DSL industry had more than 4 million more new
customers than cable but only posted half the growth rate
percentage and still had over 9 million more new subscribers than
fiber to the home.
Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com
www.Broadband-Mapping.com http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com
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Re: [WISPA] DMCA infringent notices...
On 03/16/2013 09:31 AM, Adam Greene wrote: The DCMA guidelines are pretty clear on the notice and take down requirements you have to fulfill to remain compliant yourself as the ISP. It's not a big deal in our experience. Been awhile since we've gotten any, but I don't believe any ISP has a legal obligation or legally required to meet some compliance. Basically the same reason the phone company can't be sued when phone lines are used for illegal activity. In any case we forward them on with a link to our AUP and call it a day. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Dealing with ice
Anyone mention Ice Shields yet ;). In a ice storm about month ago, ice was so bad that a chuck came off the tower, some how ricocheted off a tower leg and went through the roof of the hut! Missed our equipment, but not ATT's stuff! Been at this site for 8 years and this is first time I've ever seen that! Went up there the day after the storm and it sounded like WWII with all the ice cracking and falling off the tower...needless to say we didn't stay around long!!! Bret On 02/07/2013 03:19 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Seriously consider using RFArmor Shields They will protect your radios / jumpers and improve performance. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email:supp...@snappydsl.net On 2/7/2013 3:08 PM, Troy Settle wrote: I have a site that’s sitting at about 4500’ that took some pretty serious ice damage. In short, we’re using UBNT’s antennas and the short jumpers that came with them. Lost about a half-dozen of them during a recent storm, which really didn’t even qualify as an ‘ice storm.’ What can I do to help protect these jumpers from getting torn up by ice? What was UBNT thinking when they put the RF connectors on TOP of the rockets? -Troy ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Cogent?
No problems and their 1st level tech support actually have a clue about BGP. On 09/24/2012 06:46 PM, Victoria Proffer wrote: Love them~ Victoria Proffer President/CEO 314-974-5600 St. Louis Broadband, LLC www. StLouisBroadband.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Adam Greene Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Cogent? Hi all, Cogent approached us recently, trying to sell us a 100M/100M Internet pipe. Anyone using them for upstream? Has your experience been generally positive or negative? Thanks, Adam ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Internet Speed test..are they inaccurate with wireless?
I initially brought up the question because I have Verizon FiOS at home and not matter what time of the day can run a speed test to the same server and see my 30Mbps DN/15 Mbps up. If I run and Iperf test between my FiOS connection and one of our wireless business customers with 10Mbps circuit...it nails the speed every time... iperf show 10Mbps up 10Mbps down (we have a Linux server at the customers site). Yet when that same customer runs the same speed.net test to the same speed.net server the results suck pretty much every single time! I know the majority of test speed test are really based on algorithms that try to figure out what the potential speed of a circuit is and because our network is all wireless it just screws up the algorithms? Bret On 08/22/2012 01:00 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote: http://www.speedtest.net/mini.php On 08/21/2012 12:22 PM, Bret Clark wrote: We mostly deal with business customer and guarantee bandwidth to customers. We validate the bandwidth using IPERF from a Linux server off of our BGP edge routers down to the customer and IPERF always shows the customer getting the bandwidth they signed up for. We use QoS to control bandwidth and make sure to not oversubscribe any one linksmall ratios of 3:1. Of course eventually at some point the customer runs one of those stupid bandwidth test on the Internet and the results are woefully inaccurate (not in our favor)...but of course customers take the results as gospel. AAA! It's not our internet connections, we have three 100Mbps BGP links and none of them run at more then 50% during peak loads. Has anyone else found those Internet speed test to be woefully inaccurate? Or is something else going on that I'm missing? Thanks, Bret ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Internet Speed test..are they inaccurate with wireless?
We mostly deal with business customer and guarantee bandwidth to customers. We validate the bandwidth using IPERF from a Linux server off of our BGP edge routers down to the customer and IPERF always shows the customer getting the bandwidth they signed up for. We use QoS to control bandwidth and make sure to not oversubscribe any one linksmall ratios of 3:1. Of course eventually at some point the customer runs one of those stupid bandwidth test on the Internet and the results are woefully inaccurate (not in our favor)...but of course customers take the results as gospel. AAA! It's not our internet connections, we have three 100Mbps BGP links and none of them run at more then 50% during peak loads. Has anyone else found those Internet speed test to be woefully inaccurate? Or is something else going on that I'm missing? Thanks, Bret ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Invoice from FCC Interstate TRS Fund
And yes, you have to pay it. On 08/19/2012 04:14 PM, Jahan Babadi wrote: Calculated off of 499 A On Aug 19, 2012 2:25 PM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote: So do we have to pay this because we started offering VOIP service recently? I don't think we've ever paid it before. On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: They are the new administrator http://transition.fcc.gov/cgb/dro/trs.html/ Search their name. Regards, Chuck On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote: I've gotten a number of emails in the last few days from Rolka Loube Saltzer Assoc, t...@r-l-s-a.com mailto:t...@r-l-s-a.com which state As the Administrator of the Interstate Telecommunications Relay Service Fund (“TRS Fund”) I am writing to alert you that invoice 82925407121, with a balance of $32.03 issued to your organization by the TRS Fund Administrator on 7/27/2012, is due by 5:00 PM EST on 8/24/2012. Please make your payment by this deadline. It continues to provide information on logging into their portal and making a payment. Is this legitimate or is it someone who pulled my info from the FCC somehow and is sending a bogus bill in hopes I'll just pay it? I have heard other WISP mention similar scams on the list. We did just start filing 477499 recently so maybe it's a legitimate expense I was unaware of? Thanks for your input, Chris Fabien ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity ... Stock Price .. News ...
The stock is tanking because its current-quarter revenue outlook came 29% to 37% below Wall Street estimates which is going to pressure revenue into future quarters. Stock prices are based on future earnings and not earnings of today which is why even though the company meet expectations investors are concerned that future revenue will support the stock value it was at before the announcement. On 08/10/2012 11:59 AM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: It's interesting that the stock tanked after they basically met or exceeded street expectations. Hi Greg in some cases, not saying this is the case, it can happen that the more success has a product the faster the company will be out of the market. This can happen in situations where the company has a product that is destroying the market for everybody, itself too. So if a market killer (i.e. a product/service that kills the market) has an unexpected success it can also mean the end of the company. I will do an example: let's say that for the nature of the market, the number of sold items will be 1 million. All companies are selling at 100$ then one company steps in and sells at 10$. The market goes from 100millions to 10 millions so basically if your company can survive with only 10 millions this year that will mean it's nice, but what about next year? If the product is very good and there is no new cool feature next year in the next product, nobody will buy it and next year the market will be around zero. No margin to survive next year in this market Well I hope that is not the case for UBNT let's wait and see :) just my 2 Euro cents Paolo ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo support
Well that's pretty screwy if that's the case...not familiar with UBNT but something seems foo there! The Tranzeo TR5a was the last product we used from Tranzeo that actually worked okay...the major thing I don't like about them through is the client didn't automatically sweep if you needed to do an emergency frequency change on the base. On 07/31/2012 12:51 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: I am not sure it is. I think the UBNT Noise Floor on their radios is not an actual detected floor but a calculation. Steve Barnes General Manager PCSWIN / RC-WiFi -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 12:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo support why is the tranzeo noise floor lower than ubnt stuff? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:14 PM, David Hulsebus cont...@portative.net wrote: A nod to the folks at Tranzeo who helped me unbrick a radio 180 ft in the air. And I'm the one who bricked it. Ken spent hours helping, reconfigured two systems there to replicate my configs. Found a way in and sent me a how-to. Price upfront is not my only criteria for purchasing. I still use the TR5a series for backhauls where I only need 20MB links. Love working with a -105 noise floor on the Tranzeo's on a busy tower instead of Rockets and NanoBridges that sit at -85. YMMV, Dave -- David Hulsebus Portative Technologies, LLC 1995 Allison Lane, Suite 100 Corydon, IN 47112 812-738-7007 www.portative.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
On 03/16/2012 11:27 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: That's what breakers are for - shorts. GFCIs are for quick blows for things like dropping something in water. I still don't understand why it would be required in a tower building. I agree, there's fuse panel, why the heck is a GFCI needed too at a tower site? Are you sure this is code? My guess is some inspector has completely misread the code and is applying house code to a tower site! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] New Crown Castle Nightmare Developing
We have good relationships with the local Crown rep people who have been good to work with, so no horror stories, but the start up fees to get on one of their towers is just ridiculous..I'm not an ATT or Verizon with a gazillion $$$. I would probably do a lot more business with Crown, but only had 2 arms and 2 legs and they are long gone! On 3/11/2012 10:26 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: I was told there would be a change at WISPALOOZA...after 6 weeks of negotiations, we walked away. A friend of mine decommissioned a Crown site he was on. They removed everything. Some how a cable hanger was still there. Crown is fighting with them to get them to pay back rent for that one cable hanger. The claim was $14,000 in back rent and $4,000 to remove the cable hanger. Each month that $14k increases. Regards, Chuck On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:05 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: Looked at a Crown tower today - and remembered the horror stories. Not interested unless there is a real change. - Original Message - *From:* Ralph mailto:ralphli...@bsrg.org *To:* 'WISPA General List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Saturday, March 10, 2012 9:13 PM *Subject:* [WISPA] New Crown Castle Nightmare Developing *I wish I could say nice things… I wish I could say nice things. But Mama told me that if I can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all.* *I have a pretty good Crown Castle horror story developing. I will be glad to share the details if things do not get ironed out, and quickly.* ** *I will say that if you are considering it, do not get into a contract with them. They still think we are all Cell Carriers or Clearwire!* ** ** *If the representative from the “Kinder, Gentler, WISPA member Crown Castle” happens to be listening, I think he needs to reply to me off list!* ** ** *Ralph* *Brightlan.net * ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [Wireless] List Test
Please don't email so loudly...just drinking my first cup of coffee ;)! On 02/19/2012 07:59 AM, DJ Anderson wrote: Hello is anyone out there? DJ Anderson Shelby Broadband ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Rime Ice?
Anyone have to deal with rime ice on antenna's? We need to build a PTP link that will be on a top of a mountain that's notorious for rime Ice. It would be a 5GHz link with sturdy 3ft radome but I'm not aware at what effect rime ice might have on 5GHz signal if any? Googling hasn't really bought up any decent info. Thanks, Bret WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rime Ice?
Yeah, being in New England area we use Radome's on most of radios on high locations, but this one would be on top of a ski mountain and there are other cell phone provider antenna's up there covered pretty think with rime ice. I know in general ice doesn't attenuate 5Ghz too bad, but it looks like the build up can be extensive here. Started to look for heated radome's but again came up empty. Might be one of those deals where we try it and see what happens. Bret On 01/30/2012 02:02 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: With a radome, the ice shouldn't be too much of an issue unless it gets really thick. I had some dished here in Texas that I did not put radomes on, thinking that the one or two days of ice we get a year would not matter. With about 1/2 inch of ice directly on the end of the feed, my throughput went to nothing. I added a radome and then next ice storm with about the same covering of ice had no effect and my throughput remained constant. I would go with a radome with even a possibility of ice. Cameron On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: Anyone have to deal with rime ice on antenna's? We need to build a PTP link that will be on a top of a mountain that's notorious for rime Ice. It would be a 5GHz link with sturdy 3ft radome but I'm not aware at what effect rime ice might have on 5GHz signal if any? Googling hasn't really bought up any decent info. Thanks, Bret WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rime Ice?
Interesting idea, Bret On 01/30/2012 03:04 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Use Travis Johnson's method of putting a black thick mil trash bag on it...the blowing in the wind will shake loose any potential for rime ice. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: Yeah, being in New England area we use Radome's on most of radios on high locations, but this one would be on top of a ski mountain and there are other cell phone provider antenna's up there covered pretty think with rime ice. I know in general ice doesn't attenuate 5Ghz too bad, but it looks like the build up can be extensive here. Started to look for heated radome's but again came up empty. Might be one of those deals where we try it and see what happens. Bret On 01/30/2012 02:02 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: With a radome, the ice shouldn't be too much of an issue unless it gets really thick. I had some dished here in Texas that I did not put radomes on, thinking that the one or two days of ice we get a year would not matter. With about 1/2 inch of ice directly on the end of the feed, my throughput went to nothing. I added a radome and then next ice storm with about the same covering of ice had no effect and my throughput remained constant. I would go with a radome with even a possibility of ice. Cameron On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: Anyone have to deal with rime ice on antenna's? We need to build a PTP link that will be on a top of a mountain that's notorious for rime Ice. It would be a 5GHz link with sturdy 3ft radome but I'm not aware at what effect rime ice might have on 5GHz signal if any? Googling hasn't really bought up any decent info. Thanks, Bret WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers
We battle a problem similar to this last year, turned out BAE systems was @#$% testing military radar crap in the entire 5GHz spectrum. Any national guard or military bases in the area? On 01/28/2012 08:31 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: If you replaced all gear and even tried a different coax in place of the 60' of LMR then it would have to be some kind of noise, coming in via the power lines or radiated. Who else is on the tower? Did you only replace/try different gear on one tower or did you try both ends? Have you done any spectral analysis? Greg On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Scott Reed wrote: I have a link that went bonkers last Saturday or Sunday and it has me stumped. RB433AH with XR5 at each end. Signals running around -69/-71. CCQ is the goofy one. Most of the time one direction is in the 50% range, but varies quite a bit. The other direction ranges from 16% to 100%. Generally if I see it getting close to 100% I know the link is going to drop. It comes right back up, usually at about 50%. I have tried 20MHz channels, 10MHz channels, 5MHz channels with about the same results from all. I have tried 5.2-5.3 frequencies and 5.7-5.8 frequencies. The higher frequencies work better, but still not well. All of the hardware except one 60' piece of LMR as been replaced. Ask me some questions and offer some suggestions as this one has me totally stumped. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net http://www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ The message does not contain any threats AVG for MS Exchange Server (2012.0.1901 - 2109/4773) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers
Also, the only way we could solve the issue since BAE wasn't willing to corporate was to go in horizontal polarity...clearly this doesn't matter on a dual-pol system. On 01/28/2012 08:54 PM, Bret Clark wrote: We battle a problem similar to this last year, turned out BAE systems was @#$% testing military radar crap in the entire 5GHz spectrum. Any national guard or military bases in the area? On 01/28/2012 08:31 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: If you replaced all gear and even tried a different coax in place of the 60' of LMR then it would have to be some kind of noise, coming in via the power lines or radiated. Who else is on the tower? Did you only replace/try different gear on one tower or did you try both ends? Have you done any spectral analysis? Greg On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Scott Reed wrote: I have a link that went bonkers last Saturday or Sunday and it has me stumped. RB433AH with XR5 at each end. Signals running around -69/-71. CCQ is the goofy one. Most of the time one direction is in the 50% range, but varies quite a bit. The other direction ranges from 16% to 100%. Generally if I see it getting close to 100% I know the link is going to drop. It comes right back up, usually at about 50%. I have tried 20MHz channels, 10MHz channels, 5MHz channels with about the same results from all. I have tried 5.2-5.3 frequencies and 5.7-5.8 frequencies. The higher frequencies work better, but still not well. All of the hardware except one 60' piece of LMR as been replaced. Ask me some questions and offer some suggestions as this one has me totally stumped. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net http://www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ The message does not contain any threats AVG for MS Exchange Server (2012.0.1901 - 2109/4773) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Future of Wifi Offloading WAS: Ericsson is buying BelAir, betting on Wi-Fi
You can still use spectrum for customers as long as your back-haul links use antennas with small beam widths, or run your back-haul links in horizontal and customer links in vertical polarity. The fact that our infrastructure is 100% wireless (outside our Internet upstream links) has been a huge selling point for us in competing with the ILEC and cable company! On 01/27/2012 03:09 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I'd rather use spectrum to service customers, not towers. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] fbi letter
A lot of service providers have been getting them, there was some chatter about it last week on NANOG list. On 01/26/2012 01:55 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Use your code in the letter, and for last name : Representative ... or call the Toll free number in that letter.. -- BTW FWIW. It appears that they are now activating the system, and getting everyone setup so that all the different Fed. Agencies can use this as a common means of communication with the ISP's. The screwed up DNS is simply a place holder .. i.e. appears to be a test letter Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 1/26/2012 1:47 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) wrote: Hi All, We just got our FBI letter on the screwed up DNS system. I can't get into the web site with the code they gave me. Anyone else finally get the list of infected ip addys? thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] If radios act weird today...
Solar flare blasts radiation storm toward Earth http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-57364089-76/solar-flare-blasts-radiation-storm-toward-earth/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] If radios act weird today...
LOL...but a great excuse for your tech support department when customers call in complaining they can't download movies from Megaupload! On 01/24/2012 09:08 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: YAWN. I have yet to see a solar flare cause issues not saying it won't... just saying the news media blows this stuff up every time. Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 1/24/12 8:53 AM, Bret Clark wrote: Solar flare blasts radiation storm toward Earth http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-57364089-76/solar-flare-blasts-radiation-storm-toward-earth/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] If radios act weird today...
Oh man...where is my aluminum foil hat!!! On 01/24/2012 09:57 AM, ~V~ wrote: Check out the incoming particles this bad boy is bringing. http://youtu.be/01SEGNfK_58 ~V~ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] If radios act weird today... Same. It could eventually happen, but I haven't seen any consequence of it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/24/2012 8:08 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: YAWN. I have yet to see a solar flare cause issues not saying it won't... just saying the news media blows this stuff up every time. Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 1/24/12 8:53 AM, Bret Clark wrote: Solar flare blasts radiation storm toward Earth http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-57364089-76/solar-flare-blasts-radiation-s torm-toward-earth/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISPA Needs State Coordinator Volunteers
What exactly is the role of a State Coordinator? Bret Spectra Access 25 Lowell Street Manchester, NH 03101 www.spectraaccess.net On 01/18/2012 02:35 PM, ~V~ wrote: Hi Members, I am working on updating our State Coordinator list for 2012. This list is going to be very useful this year for grass roots legislative efforts, disaster recovery, WISP recruitment, etc. We have a really great group, but are missing coordinators for the below states. If you are interested, please contact me ASAP Connecticut Delaware Georgia Hawaii Idaho Iowa Maryland Mississippi Montana Nevada New Hampshire New Jersey New Mexico North Dakota Pennsylvania Rhode Island West Virginia Thank you, Victoria Proffer St. Louis Broadband, LLC http://stlbroadband.com/ 314-974-5600 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Remore relay (or similar)
I don't have any favorites, these were actually links that other WISPA members have posted in the past and I saved them. We actually use APC switched Rack PDU's at remote locations. But to be honest, I don't remember the last time we needed to reboot a piece of equipment, just hasn't been an issue although it was once in the past. We used to use Tranzeo's products many many years ago that routinely needed to be rebooted, but thankfully we stopped using them and moved on to Redline, Solectek, Mikrotik, various other vendors..the need to reboot systems has long since disappeared that we don't even consider the ability to reboot something at a remote cell to be a priority. IMHO, if one is putting in remote equipment that needs to be rebooted, then it's probably not the best equipment to be using in the field. Bret On 01/08/2012 01:16 PM, Robert Pearson wrote: Brett, I was very interested in this list you provided. Do you have a clear cut favorite of these four? On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: Don't now if it covers everything in your list, but some links to consider: http://www.digital-loggers.com/epcr3.html http://dataprobe.com/iboot-remote-reboot.php http://www.controlbyweb.com/webrelay/ http://www.dinrelay.com/ On 01/08/2012 12:13 PM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Dear All I am looking for some device to remotely reboot some device. The requested features are: 1) din mountable 2) ethernet aware 3) inputs to measure AC and DC (so that you can know if power is there or not) 4) high temperature range (e.g. -10C, +50C) 5) ability to put some labels on the interface (so that you can put the label do not reset this or routerA etc on the web interface and you know what you are doing) 6) autoping 7) remotely reset via a mobile phone call (sim card) or text messages from a list of phone numbers (the list can be updated via web interface, or any available interface) Suggestions are welcome :) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Bob Pearson Unisono WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Remore relay (or similar)
Don't now if it covers everything in your list, but some links to consider: http://www.digital-loggers.com/epcr3.html http://dataprobe.com/iboot-remote-reboot.php http://www.controlbyweb.com/webrelay/ http://www.dinrelay.com/ On 01/08/2012 12:13 PM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Dear All I am looking for some device to remotely reboot some device. The requested features are: 1) din mountable 2) ethernet aware 3) inputs to measure AC and DC (so that you can know if power is there or not) 4) high temperature range (e.g. -10C, +50C) 5) ability to put some labels on the interface (so that you can put the label do not reset this or routerA etc on the web interface and you know what you are doing) 6) autoping 7) remotely reset via a mobile phone call (sim card) or text messages from a list of phone numbers (the list can be updated via web interface, or any available interface) Suggestions are welcome :) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference
What model phone is it anyway? Noise floor would have to get pretty high to knock the signal out completely, unless you have poor fade margin to begin with. On 12/27/2011 09:35 PM, Gary Garrett wrote: Yeah, I am sure there is a huge amount of data transferred in the wake up command. The handsets go into a sleep mode to give max battery life. The ring command is probably just all 0's or all 1's like the old frame relay connections use to tell the other end to loop back. The actual talk data is only 32k or so both ways 1/2 duplex. Multi line phones would need to get a lot of info from the base about what is about to happen, what lights to lite up etc. I have looked at cordless phones on a spectrum analyzer and the are way Spread spectrum, not really a channelized thing. No big power spike but a very low and wide waveform. Definitly go for the DECT. On 12/27/2011 6:15 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What I'm getting at is what initiates the ring. The copper pair hits the base unit and then tells all the handsets in the house to ring. I'm suggesting that this is 2.4 and what causes the SM's problem. I've seen a ringing telephone cause a Dlink router to reboot 100% of the time, it was easily reproducible. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Monitoring and Presentation
We use Cacti and give customers who request it individual login's to see only their utilization. http://www.cacti.net/ On 12/28/2011 3:37 PM, Kevin Battersby wrote: Greetings We have been using Pmacct to gather bandwidth accounting information for some time now. This is processed for our own use on a monthly basis. Our current problem is customers requesting access to this information on a regular basis throughout the month. At the moment I believe we are looking at a completely custom job to get this done. My question is, what software might be available to do this presentation? Any success stories? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WUG] EMERGENCY TDWR INTERFERENCE ISSUE IN LAS VEGAS
On 11/23/2011 01:07 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: maybe a private link that some bozo installed, not a WISP. I do hope it is tracked down soon. My thought as well...can't even tell you how many times some Joe IT Consultant Want a Be has put up PTP links with 3 foot dishes for 2 buildings that are separated by 150 feet! Bret WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Real enemy
In the article But users who use up a disproportionate share of mobile bandwidth are subject to getting the boot (after a series of warnings) if they don't rein in their heavy voice and data usage. And that's the crux of the problem with 3G/4G networks, so you're not dealing with the real problem for strained networks as you're still booting heavy users! Personally I've been trying to think of a way to take advantage of the pletheroia of smart phones and tablets growing each day. Much like ILEC's didn't get data growth on their networks back in the 90's, and arguably today, mobile carriers (with only slightly more of clue) are having just as hard of a time managing data growth. WISP on the other hand understand high volume data on wireless networks and how to best manage it, bring that expertise to smart phones/tablets and it's a compelling business story! Bret On 11/10/2011 02:30 AM, Blake Bowers wrote: http://cooldudereal.blogspot.com/2011/11/new-wifi-minded-carrier-offers.html Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Boost Your WiFi Signal Using Only a Beer Can
50 gallon drum works better! \On 10/24/2011 08:55 AM, Cliff Leboeuf wrote: http://dsc.discovery.com/gear-gadgets/boost-your-wifi-signal-using-only-a-beer-can.html#mkcpgn=otbn1 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] America's Broadband Heroes: Fixed Wireless Broadband Providers
Link doesn't work for me. On 10/12/2011 11:36 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: Here is the link my white paper about fixed wireless broadband providers. http://www.wirelesscowboys.com/?p=252preview=true http://www.wirelesscowboys.com/?p=252preview=true We will be adding more maps and tables of statistics for the WISP only areas later.This was very well received at the WISPAPALOOZA show today. Matt Larsen Vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping?
So, like many of you, we're being asked to provide data to NTIA for broadband mapping, but as a private company I'm rather bothered by the confidential information they are asking for. They want to know such things as our spectrum use, antenna locations, antenna types, etc. so they can model our coverage area (something we already do with Radio Mobile). We tried for stimulas money, but got rejected so to be honest I have little interest in providing this information, not to mention having the data used by our competitors. I'm wondering how others felt about providing this information? Thanks Bret Spectra Access 25 Lowell Street, Manchester, NH 03101 www.spectraaccess.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping?
On 08/03/2011 10:51 AM, Fred Goldstein wrote: But they could go ahead with something like this (letter of the law notwtihstanding, since law no loger counts for much here) and thus having your maps submitted by the deadline may prevent you from being run out of town by a subsidy whore. Well, if it stops a subsidy whore (I like that term :) from coming into my location, I can buy that as a reason for providing the data. Bret WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update
On 04/05/2011 07:37 AM, Charles Wu wrote: It's generally known that the 20 Mb burst given by cable companies is throttled to sustained download speeds in the 1-3 Mb range That said, the point I'm trying to make is that the technology has come so far for mobile cellular data that we are now unconsciously comparing it side-by-side to fixed terrestrial broadband technologies (think of it this way, how many WISPs can deliver up-to speeds of 8-10 Mb to a low power handset in the middle of a concrete building 3+ miles away from a tower) -Charles Don't disagree, but the real question is that once the network is load will that still be the case...probably not. Much like the first neighbor on the new cable feed proclaiming the next coming of the Internet only 6 months later lamenting about how his dial up was faster now that every neighborhood kid is on it with their Xboxes and PS3! As far as WISP being able to deliver these speeds, that is a function of spectrum (blame the FCC)...not the technology to do it. And again I want to see actual throughput test (FTP or IPERF) not some half-baked algorithm used by those speed test sites that are not all that reliable. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update
LTE is 5 bits per hertz (ideal conditions), so on a 20MHz channel that would be 100Mbps. WiMax (fixed) is 3.5 bits per hertz. On 04/05/2011 07:13 PM, Jeremie Chism wrote: Higher throughput from what I understand. I have their wimax deployed now. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2011, at 6:07 PM, Gino Villarinig...@aeronetpr.com wrote: More importantly what axccelera expects to gain from doing lte? They are already doing wimax Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Apr 5, 2011, at 6:33 PM, Mattlm7...@gmail.com wrote: I know Axxcelera is planning LTE equipment in the 3.65 ghz band this year. It is cost effective to deploy to businesses in an Internet/VoIP setup but will not make it to the residential market at anything that will make money because the cpe's run in the 300.00 range. So how much throughput does the Axxcelera 3.65 CPE have etc? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW
Do a real test and report back, like FTP. Ookla Speedtest.net test are bogus 99.9% percent of the time because it's based on screwy test algorithms. On 04/01/2011 11:05 PM, Charles Wu wrote: Just got my HTC Thunderbolt, and Ookla tested 20 Mb down, 24 Mb up at Speedtest.Net to my handset -Charles WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Data Caps and Streaming
On 03/30/2011 11:31 AM, Rick Kunze wrote: The shared model works very well for 90% of the people. I sell both, and everything in between. But rarely does anyone find dedicated bandwidth to be a better solution for them. About the only time I sell it is when the order comes from higher up. Rk I assume when you say dedicated you mean at some QoS level since wireless is shared medium at the physical layer and dedicated link would require separate equipment and frequencies from you shared customers. Bret WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Data Caps and Streaming
I know this is Canada, but I can just see some congressman here in the US one day bitch about not being able to cleaning watch the Jackass 3 movie from Netflix and demanding that all service providers get rid of bandwidth quotas and throttling by introducing a new bill. On 03/29/2011 11:26 AM, Matt wrote: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/03/data-caps-claim-a-victim-netflix-streaming-video.ars WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Data Caps and Streaming
yeah...didn't proof well enough...cleanly watch is what I meant. On 03/29/2011 11:51 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: cleaning watch? Do you mean cleaning while watching? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: I know this is Canada, but I can just see some congressman here in the US one day bitch about not being able to cleaning watch the Jackass 3 movie from Netflix and demanding that all service providers get rid of bandwidth quotas and throttling by introducing a new bill. On 03/29/2011 11:26 AM, Matt wrote: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/03/data-caps-claim-a-victim-netflix-streaming-video.ars WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Very Random 5GHz Noise Problem
It's not the clients having the problem so much as it's the base which is up on a mountain with the radio another 100 feet in the air. I don't think this is a consumer device causing the problem. On 02/07/2011 03:10 AM, RickG wrote: There are plenty of 5GHz home routers as well ;( On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18-30chat.net wrote: 5ghz cordless phone system and just the right magic path. In one case it was only a issue when one of the cars were home, but not when the 2nd was also there (car vs jacked up truck). On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Bret Clarkbcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: I saw someone mention a problem in the 900MHz yesterday, but would anyone have any ideas as too what could be causing a problem in the 5GHz range? And I'm talking the entire 5GHz range (5-6GHz). At random times throughout the day our 5GHz customer get knocked off by what looks like a frequency hopping system putting out some serious power. The frustrating thing is that it's not consistent, but very random. We can go weeks without problems and then we get nailed, mostly on the weekends or evenings, but very rarely during business hours! The randomness of the problem has made tracking it nearly impossible. We are pulling our hair out as to what could be causing it. We've contact all other operators on the tower, none of them seem to be the culprit, even contacted BAE systems down the street that works on military radar, but they say they are not doing anything. Right now I'd take any idea/suggestion no matter how crazy they maybe! Bret Bret Clark Spectra Access 25 Lowell Street Manchester, NH 03101 www.spectraaccess.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Very Random 5GHz Noise Problem
That's what I'm thinking but you'd think it would be happening continuously. Yet we'll go several months without so much as a peep and then boom...we are in interference hell. Had the problem again this weekend, started Friday night, on and off all weekend, then Sunday night everything is find again. I'm running out of hair to pull out of my head at this point! Bret On 02/07/2011 12:05 PM, Jack Unger wrote: Bret, Sure sounds like radar to me. jack On 2/7/2011 5:18 AM, Bret Clark wrote: It's not the clients having the problem so much as it's the base which is up on a mountain with the radio another 100 feet in the air. I don't think this is a consumer device causing the problem. On 02/07/2011 03:10 AM, RickG wrote: There are plenty of 5GHz home routers as well ;( On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18-30chat.net wrote: 5ghz cordless phone system and just the right magic path. In one case it was only a issue when one of the cars were home, but not when the 2nd was also there (car vs jacked up truck). On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Bret Clarkbcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: I saw someone mention a problem in the 900MHz yesterday, but would anyone have any ideas as too what could be causing a problem in the 5GHz range? And I'm talking the entire 5GHz range (5-6GHz). At random times throughout the day our 5GHz customer get knocked off by what looks like a frequency hopping system putting out some serious power. The frustrating thing is that it's not consistent, but very random. We can go weeks without problems and then we get nailed, mostly on the weekends or evenings, but very rarely during business hours! The randomness of the problem has made tracking it nearly impossible. We are pulling our hair out as to what could be causing it. We've contact all other operators on the tower, none of them seem to be the culprit, even contacted BAE systems down the street that works on military radar, but they say they are not doing anything. Right now I'd take any idea/suggestion no matter how crazy they maybe! Bret Bret Clark Spectra Access 25 Lowell Street Manchester, NH 03101 www.spectraaccess.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Very Random 5GHz Noise Problem
Hh...that just set off a light bulb...none in the immediate area, but I'm sure their stuff would be high powered enough to reach some distance. Something we are going to look into further. On 02/07/2011 02:04 PM, Jack Unger wrote: It could be mobile military radars or during National Guard exercises, etc. What freqs are you using in the band? Does your mountain installation overlook any military training areas? On 2/7/2011 9:11 AM, Bret Clark wrote: That's what I'm thinking but you'd think it would be happening continuously. Yet we'll go several months without so much as a peep and then boom...we are in interference hell. Had the problem again this weekend, started Friday night, on and off all weekend, then Sunday night everything is find again. I'm running out of hair to pull out of my head at this point! Bret On 02/07/2011 12:05 PM, Jack Unger wrote: Bret, Sure sounds like radar to me. jack On 2/7/2011 5:18 AM, Bret Clark wrote: It's not the clients having the problem so much as it's the base which is up on a mountain with the radio another 100 feet in the air. I don't think this is a consumer device causing the problem. On 02/07/2011 03:10 AM, RickG wrote: There are plenty of 5GHz home routers as well ;( On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18-30chat.net wrote: 5ghz cordless phone system and just the right magic path. In one case it was only a issue when one of the cars were home, but not when the 2nd was also there (car vs jacked up truck). On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Bret Clarkbcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: I saw someone mention a problem in the 900MHz yesterday, but would anyone have any ideas as too what could be causing a problem in the 5GHz range? And I'm talking the entire 5GHz range (5-6GHz). At random times throughout the day our 5GHz customer get knocked off by what looks like a frequency hopping system putting out some serious power. The frustrating thing is that it's not consistent, but very random. We can go weeks without problems and then we get nailed, mostly on the weekends or evenings, but very rarely during business hours! The randomness of the problem has made tracking it nearly impossible. We are pulling our hair out as to what could be causing it. We've contact all other operators on the tower, none of them seem to be the culprit, even contacted BAE systems down the street that works on military radar, but they say they are not doing anything. Right now I'd take any idea/suggestion no matter how crazy they maybe! Bret Bret Clark Spectra Access 25 Lowell Street Manchester, NH 03101 www.spectraaccess.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Very Random 5GHz Noise Problem
This is happening in the entire 5GHz, we did have a spectrum analyzer up and we were able to catch the problem briefly. It looked like a high powered frequency hopper but we were unable to home in on it. The National Guard theory is sounding pretty good right now just because we'll go for so long without any problems; noise floor of -100db. We are in the process of looking into the locations of some National Guard sites in the area and will contact them to see if we can gain additional info. I'll update the list when I learn more. Bret On 02/07/2011 02:41 PM, Leon D. Zetekoff wrote: see if you can get a spectrum analyzer up there? What freqs qre you using? leon - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3428 - Release Date: 02/07/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FCC Favors Shifting Rural Subsidies To Broadband
Ugh...not good. Last thing I need is to compete with the ILEC who is getting money from the Universal Slush Fund to provide government subsidized broadband in rural areas. And I can see every ILEC in America lobbing to ensure that the distribution of USF continues as is if the shift is made to broadband instead of telephone...basically filling the ILEC's coffers! The FCC is looking for comments, so we all need to make it quite clear that the funds should be available for any and all broadband providers! http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20110207/tc_nf/77213 Bret Bret Clark Spectra Access 25 Lowell Street Manchester, NH 03101 www.spectraaccess.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Very Random 5GHz Noise Problem
I saw someone mention a problem in the 900MHz yesterday, but would anyone have any ideas as too what could be causing a problem in the 5GHz range? And I'm talking the entire 5GHz range (5-6GHz). At random times throughout the day our 5GHz customer get knocked off by what looks like a frequency hopping system putting out some serious power. The frustrating thing is that it's not consistent, but very random. We can go weeks without problems and then we get nailed, mostly on the weekends or evenings, but very rarely during business hours! The randomness of the problem has made tracking it nearly impossible. We are pulling our hair out as to what could be causing it. We've contact all other operators on the tower, none of them seem to be the culprit, even contacted BAE systems down the street that works on military radar, but they say they are not doing anything. Right now I'd take any idea/suggestion no matter how crazy they maybe! Bret Bret Clark Spectra Access 25 Lowell Street Manchester, NH 03101 www.spectraaccess.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik RB411
We don't have a ton right now, but the ones that are up were no problem during the recent cold spell here in New England...now Tranzeo on the other hand; I will be glad when we get that crap out of the network!!! On 02/05/2011 03:01 PM, Ryan Goldberg wrote: We too have several hundred in the air in ARC cases here in northern MN, no issues. Ryan On Feb 5, 2011, at 1:57 PM, Travis Johnsont...@ida.net wrote: Matt... we have over 1,000 of the regular 411 boards in the air... including many point to point backhaul links. We saw temps down to -30F this last week and didn't have a single failure. Travis Microserv On 2/5/2011 11:41 AM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: I just wanted to take this opportunity to mention that the Mikrotik RB411 boards are pieces of crap.Half of the ones I have failed during the cold spell this last week and it turns out that lots of other people have had the same problems.It is very frustrating to see that not all of the hardware we use has moved out of the amateur stage yet when it comes to quality control and design. Glad I only ever bought ten of them. They will be getting replaced with something reliable real soon. FWIW, the 411AH boards I have in place have been just fine. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Board] WISP A Final Defination ...
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Need to yank the " primarily governed by FCC Part 15 regulations"
part, There are WISP all across the globe plus it's never a good
idea to tie a government entity into an industry unless you want to
invite yet more government regulation into that industry. Yeah,
yeah, I know what we do is tied closely to the FCC regulations, but
why make it lock step with the definitionIMHO.
Also why tie the industry to "fixed wireless"? I'm keeping my eye on
how to also service the mobile market, not in a cell phone way, but
more towards the industry that the iPAD has created...that market is
only going to grow dramatically over the coming year.
"A WISP is a Community based, Wireless Internet Service Provider
that operates using terrestrial-based radio technology to
transport and sell fixed
and/or other wireless broadband access or related Internet
Protocol derived services to end users."
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I think this looks great.
Thanks for taking this on Victoria!
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Re: [WISPA] Rain Rain Go Away Come back after 3 days!
Hard to feel your pain when those of us have to deal with blizzards and sub-zero temps on regular basis throughout winter ...but then again maybe it's easy to feel your pain :)...hang in there! On 12/22/2010 06:56 AM, Tom Fadgen wrote: Today is the sixth day of rain. We live a desert and are not used to or prepared for this much water. This morning a mudslide took down one of my towers. I discovered this via a site survey at 3am. Back at the office now for shovels(lol) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] High Power RF close-proximity on tower question
On 12/20/2010 1:30 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: Ok, I've dealt with up to about 20KW on FM transmitter 20 feet away and dealt with it decently. Now I'm told one of our installs of gear on a tower is about to get a 100KW 20ft above my gear and a TV antenna 20ft below it at 700KW channel 39 I think. Anyone have gear running close to this kind of high-power antennas? Am I screwed or will I be able to have my equipment work int his RF environment? Assume I did everything right (grounded metal box, shielded cable soldered drain wires, ferrite cores on the cables etc...). Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 We are running 5.8 and 3.65 stuff on towers with 100KW TV systems on the tower located about a 100 yards from us on another tower...no problems. Probably not much difference between 100KW 20 feet or 100 yards apart. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] High Power RF close-proximity on tower question
True...good advice. On 12/20/2010 05:56 PM, Jack Unger wrote: There is QUITE a difference between a separation distance of 20 ft and a separation distance of 100 yards. Remember the inverse-square law - RF intensity decreases as the SQUARE of the separation distance. 100 yards is 300 feet and 20 feet goes into 300 feet 15 times so the RF intensity at 100 yards is the inverse of 15 squared (15X15) or the inverse of 225. Inverting 225 means that the intensity at 100 yards is only 1/225th as much as at 20 feet. Scott's equipment is going to be exposed to 225 times greater RF energy than yours so his equipment is likely to be overloaded with receiver de-sensitization while your equipment may be OK. The solution is to do everything right as Scott says. The 11 GHz equipment is likely so far away from the FM and TV frequencies that it is probably OK. The solution for 2.4 and 5 GHz is use proper bandpass filters between the antennas and the equipment then test to see if the receivers seem to have full sensitivity or not. jack On 12/20/2010 2:34 PM, Bret Clark wrote: On 12/20/2010 1:30 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: Ok, I've dealt with up to about 20KW on FM transmitter 20 feet away and dealt with it decently. Now I'm told one of our installs of gear on a tower is about to get a 100KW 20ft above my gear and a TV antenna 20ft below it at 700KW channel 39 I think. Anyone have gear running close to this kind of high-power antennas? Am I screwed or will I be able to have my equipment work int his RF environment? Assume I did everything right (grounded metal box, shielded cable soldered drain wires, ferrite cores on the cables etc...). Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 We are running 5.8 and 3.65 stuff on towers with 100KW TV systems on the tower located about a 100 yards from us on another tower...no problems. Probably not much difference between 100KW 20 feet or 100 yards apart. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dropping Clients
Did it rain recently? We had a similar problem where the antenna was not sealed tight and everytime it rained hard clients would drop off, but after a few hours of sun shining on the system they'd be fine until the next heavy rain storm. The thing that threw us off was that light or normal rain that didn't last long didn't seem to affect the antenna, only heavy rain with maybe some wind thrown in the mix. Then on a different note, we've recently been battling an issue where on one of our 5GH systems clients were all dropping off at very random times...Turn out damn BAE systems down the road was testing frequency hopping radar crap and every time it hopped into the frequency we were using, the clients dropped off. On 11/20/2010 12:02 PM, ~NGL~ wrote: All the clients came back on line about 10 pm last night. and are still on line this morning. I dont get it! The AP is a TR-902 11f which has an internal antenna. The clients that were were dropped were a mix of nearest and furthest from the AP. Thanx NGL From: Phil Curnutt Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 6:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dropping Clients Put a power meter between the AP radio and the antenna and make sure the radio is putting out the power it should. Also check the SWR, should be about 1.3/5. I would guess that the clients being dropped are the ones furthest away, if the AP is losing power or the antenna is wet or damaged and losing signal. Phil On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:41 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Yes. Since you said "it has now dropped 15 of 20 that are connected to that AP." I would suspect there is an issue with that AP. I'd swap it out with a known good AP and see if that helps. Otherwise, you may be having some interference issues on that sector which would mean you'll need a cavity filter. On that note, can you run a spectrum scan to see? On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 12:32 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: Do you mean the AP? It still works with 7 clients now. NGL From: RickG Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 8:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dropping Clients swap the suspect unit out with a known working unit. On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:29 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have 4 TR-902 AP's on a tower 3 are working fine, 1 has been dropping clients at the rate of 1 every 5 minuets it has now dropped 15 of 20 that are connected to that AP. I have rebooted the AP and some of the clients, with no success. I have no idea what is wrong. Now I see that 2 have come back.. Any suggestions? Thanx NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] making money from voip
On 11/11/2010 08:18 PM, Ryan Goldberg wrote: How do you handle support? Custom acd, dial plans, etc. I assume your voip partner implements, but what support is yours to deal with, and where do you hand off at? Ryan We integrated our VoIP partner with our support ticketing system and support call center (gave them VoIP phones and tied them into our Trixbox) so it looks like to the customer that they are just calling/contacting our support team. VoIP hasn't been a problem, but the biggest PIA we see is faxes and credit card machines...modem and VoIP are not great combinations...it works but sometimes can be a pain. Basically we just run VoIP to an ATA at the customer location and then just hand off either an analog or digital line that ties into their existing Key/PBX, so for the customer they really don't see any change except a lower monthly bill. One thing you do need to do is tell the analog customers that they will lose phone if there is no power...amazing how many customers just don't understand that concept; guess a 100 years of running on copper have set thier ways. I won't deny that we sometimes recommend the customer keep one copper line as an emergency if they are concern with loss of phone during power outages. Bret WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] making money from voip
We partnered with a small VoIP company that is local in our area and resell the service as our own to businesses only. It has worked well for us, but I strongly recommend that you implement some type of QoS for the VoIP packets...at least if you're dealing with businesses. Bret On 11/11/2010 07:24 PM, Ryan Goldberg wrote: Whose service do you use? Who if anyone did you try before current provider? Thanks- Ryan On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jeremie Chismjchi...@gmail.com wrote: Our approach is white label to business only bundled with our Internet usually and other Internet outside of our coverage. We include email, webhosting, data backup with all packages to make us sticky. Also we definitely aren't the cheapest. We went that route in the beginning but sales didn't take off until we raised our price. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Ryan Goldbergrgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Curious what models you guys are working. Hosted PBX, white label, etc. What approach for SMB v. residential v enterprise. And so on. TIA Ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS
On 11/02/2010 08:37 PM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote: On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 18:52 -0500, Scott Lambert wrote: I still need to try a Vyatta system. I loathe the idea of managing a *nix distro on a router (which is why we use RouterOS now). Apparently I've had too much Tik-aid, because I had completely forgotten about Vyatta and similar options. I have a SuperMicro 5015A-H (Atom 330 dual-core) coming in tomorrow. I'm going to try RouterOS and Vyatta and see how BGP responds on each with a single feed. If anyone else has an x86-based distro they'd like to see performance on, let me know. And thanks for all the responses. The information has been very helpful. Unfortunately, the conclusion I came to is I have no idea what I'm going to do. Cisco = $$$ and MikroTik = coin flip. Hopefully Vyatta lands somewhere in the middle. Thanks, -Kristian I don't know I find quagga runnning on a Ubuntu server to be a piece of cake and having all the networking tools of Linux makes it nice when I need to troubleshot a network problem. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Licensed at 40-60-80Ghz - short distance link
Yup agree with that. We had a 60 GHz link at 2 miles and anytime rain fall exceed .10 in/hr the link would die. We replaced the link with an 18GHz and have been much happier with no rain/snow related problems! On 10/28/2010 04:35 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote: 60-80 won't get you 5 miles in rain regardless of where it's located. For 100Mbps, you are better off looking at 6, 11, 18 or 23. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@teleinform.com wrote: Hi All, I was wondering if somebody of you is working at those frequencies, on moutain top or heavy-rain The point is that I am curious to know your experience at those frequencies when it's not downtown but a more country, hill or mountain environment where clouds, rain and other weather evil things can happen. The distance is around 4-5 mile, with 100Mb/1Gb bandwidth desired. what do you suggest? Any hint about a brand? Thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Teleinform s.r.l. Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale (Palermo) Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 Fax: +39-091-6406200 http://www.wikitel.it http://www.teleinform.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attacks
If we got rid of the spammers and attackers we'd have more then enough IP addresses and everyone would be able to get by on dial up! Seriously though I estimate that 5% of my upstream bandwidth is used by people to spam and attempt hack attacks on me. I use numerous apps to stop them such as denyhost, but it only stops them at my door, they still use up my bandwidth! Bret On 10/25/2010 12:47 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: I'm brute force attacked every day all over hell. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 10/24/2010 9:20 PM, Robert West wrote: Is it just me or is everyone having their gateway servers attacked by those Chinese so-and so's? (WISPA REGS) My logs show attacks all weekend on all of my MT gateways. Sad Never had that before. Even the Routerboard I use at the house. RELENTLESS! Just sharing They get swatted off so it's all good but it's interesting to watch their attack Moving on. Steve- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attacks
Cogent is one of our providers and that would be an idea, but we have several upstream providers that we peer with via BGP. The usages isn't an issue for as we have enough Internet bandwidth, but it is amazing the amount of illegal traffic that comes into our network in terms of hackers, spammers, phishing, etc. A problem for everyone I would suppose. Bret On 10/25/2010 10:45 AM, Glenn Kelley rote: Bret - If I poked @ your network right - you are using Cogento. They should be able to allow you to place something in their DC prior to it reaching your network. (cost may be $100/mo or so) A simple transparent gateway/firewall would do wonders. On Oct 25, 2010, at 6:49 AM, Bret Clark wrote: If we got rid of the spammers and attackers we'd have more then enough IP addresses and everyone would be able to get by on dial up! Seriously though I estimate that 5% of my upstream bandwidth is used by people to spam and attempt hack attacks on me. I use numerous apps to stop them such as denyhost, but it only stops them at my door, they still use up my bandwidth! Bret On 10/25/2010 12:47 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: I'm brute force attacked every day all over hell. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com http://www.ics-il.com/ On 10/24/2010 9:20 PM, Robert West wrote: Is it just me or is everyone having their gateway servers attacked by those Chinese so-and so’s? (WISPA REGS) My logs show attacks all weekend on all of my MT gateways. Sad Never had that before. Even the Routerboard I use at the house. RELENTLESS! Just sharing They get swatted off so it’s all good but it’s interesting to watch their attack Moving on. Steve- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ *Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com * Email: gl...@hostmedic.com mailto:gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Should this happen? Probably not.
Bad link... On 09/30/2010 08:30 AM, Cameron Kilton wrote: This is why we ask to beta certain products. This a 15dbi grid from Pac Wireless (Laird) whichever they are this year. This has been in service since 10/27/2007. The feedhorn rusted and snapped right off the grid. Granted it was maybe 100 yards from the shore, but this should not happen. http://.midcoast.com/~cam/15dbi Check out the pics WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Fwd: EFF needs your help to stop the Senate's DNS censorship bill
This came on the NANOG list for those who don't subscribe to that list...thought I'd pass it along here. Looks like you need to respond to Peter by today 4PM EST. Bret Original Message Subject:EFF needs your help to stop the Senate's DNS censorship bill Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 16:40:25 -0700 From: Peter Eckersley p...@eff.org To: na...@nanog.org Dear network operators, I apologise for a posting that contains some politics; I hope you'll agree that it also has fairly substantial short-to-medium term operational implications. As you may or may not have heard, there is a censor-DNS-to-enforce-copyright bill that is going to be passed by the Senate Judiciary Committee this Wednesday. It will require service providers to censor the DNS entries of blacklisted domains where piracy is deemed too central to the site's purpose. Senators are claiming that they haven't heard any opposition to this bill, and it is being sponsored by 14 of the 19 committee members. We believe it needs to be stopped, and we need your help. What EFF needs right now is sign-ons to an open letter, from the engineers who helped build the Internet in the first place. The text of our letter is below. If you agree with it and would like to sign, please send me an email at p...@eff.org, with your name and a one-line summary of what part of the Internet you have helped to design, implement, debug or run. This is URGENT. I need your sign-ons by 4:00pm, US Eastern time (1pm Pacific), tomorrow. Unfortunately, the civil liberties community has been ambushed by this bill. You can find out more details on the bill here: https://eff.org/coica --- Open letter from Internet engineers to members of the Senate Judiciary Committee: We, the undersigned, have played various parts in building a network called the Internet. We wrote and debugged the software; we defined the standards and protocols that talk over that network. Many of us invented parts of it. We're just a little proud of the social and economic benefits that our project, the Internet, has brought with it. We are writing to oppose the Committee's proposed new Internet censorship and copyright bill. If enacted, this legislation will risk fragmenting the Internet's global domain name system (DNS), create an environment of tremendous fear and uncertainty for technological innovation, and seriously harm the credibility of the United States in its role as a steward of key Internet infrastructure. In exchange for this, the bill will introduce censorship that will simultaneously be circumvented by deliberate infringers while hampering innocent parties' ability to communicate. All censorship schemes impact speech beyond the category they were intended to restrict, but this bill will be particularly egregious in that regard because it causes entire domains to vanish from the Web, not just infringing pages or files. Worse, an incredible range of useful, law-abiding sites can be blacklisted under this bill. These problems will be enough to ensure that alternative name-lookup infrastructures will come into widespread use, outside the control of US service providers but easily used by American citizens. Errors and divergences will appear between these new services and the current global DNS, and contradictory addresses will confuse browsers and frustrate the people using them. These problems will be widespread and will affect sites other than those blacklisted by the American government. The US government has regularly claimed that it supports a free and open Internet, both domestically and abroad. We can't have a free and open Internet without a global domain name system that sits above the political concerns and objectives of any one government or industry. To date, the leading role the US has played in this infrastructure has been fairly uncontroversial because America is seen as a trustworthy arbiter and a neutral bastion of free expression. If the US suddenly begins to use its central position in the DNS for censorship that advances its political and economic agenda, the consequences will be far-reaching and destructive. Senators, we believe the Internet is too important and too valuable to be endangered in this way, and implore you to put this bill aside. -- Peter Eckersleyp...@eff.org Senior Staff Technologist Tel +1 415 436 9333 x131 Electronic Frontier FoundationFax +1 415 436 9993 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Weather Sensors
Reminds me of my favorite weather site where you can get real-time weather statistics from other users who have purchased online weather stations. http://www.wunderground.com/wundermap/? On 09/21/2010 03:25 AM, Chuck Profito wrote: try Oregon Scientific Full Weather Station WMR80 / WMR80A I think one of these has a Ethernet port *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Blair Davis *Sent:* Monday, September 20, 2010 11:47 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] Weather Sensors I am looking for inexpensive, network aware weather sensors... Maybe temp, wind speed and wind direction to start. Other data would be useful as well. I want to put these on my towers and then aggregate the data on our webpage. Ideas? This is a small project and it can't go much over $100-200 per location. Blair WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
We don't charge only because we are in a competitive environment and
sell to business that have contracts; thus we can charge more on the MTM
rates. If you're the only game in town I see no reason why not to charge
(might as well take advantage of being a monopoly), but if they could
leave to go somewhere else then it really comes down to what your ROI is
and if you can afford to lose a customer.
On 09/20/2010 05:38 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Right, it's an operational/procedural issue.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Mark Nashmarkl...@uwol.net wrote:
This is not an accounting issue.
Unless you're married to or otherwise entangled with said accountant.
Then it's an accounting issue.
- Original Message -
From: ~NGL~n...@ngl.net
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
That was my thought, but the accountant disagrees.
Thanx
--
From: Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:13 PM
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
Yep, trees = our fault, our cost. If they want it moved for
aesthetics, etc., normal service rate.
We do 1/2 price installs for customers that move.
On 9/20/2010 5:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Same here.
If they want it moved because it was on their barn and want it
elsewhere, that's a charge.
If it's simple tree growth, no charge. If our mounting falls off
because of the wrong screw, no charge.
Basically if it is our fault or poor foresight no charge but if they
want something special we charge.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Marco Coelhocoelh...@gmail.com
wrote:
If it's tree growth, no. That means we messed up during install.
If the customers moves to a new house, we recharge the installation
fee.
Marco
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:52 PM, ~NGL~n...@ngl.netwrote:
Do you charge when you have to relocate and rewire the equipment at a
clients location, because the trees have grown to a point where the
signal
is very weak? If so at what rate?
NGL
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From: Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:19 PM
To:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Convert Single Pol to Dual Pol
Thanks guys!
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/20/2010 3:14 PM, Philip Dorr wrote:
DA5W-29-DP-FEED
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
wrote:
I'm having a heck of a time finding the dual pol feed horns.
Anyone
have a part number for them?
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection
U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/17/2010 5:42 PM, David E. Smith wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
mailto:ch...@uplogon.comwrote:
We have some older Pac Wireless 2' 5.8Mhz 29db parabolic
dishes
serving
as a PtP link. We are going to be upgrading the radios
connected
to
these dishes, and the new radios support dual polarity. Does
anyone
know if you can just swap out the feed horn on the dishes
from
single
pol to dual pol? Would sure be easier than hauling up a
whole
new
dish
setup. If this would work, anyone got sources that i can buy
just
a
feed horn? Thanks.
I forget where we bought the feedhorns from, but this can be done.
We actually just replaced two of them, doing exactly what you
describe.
There was a catch, though. The feedhorn has two N connectors, a
few
inches and ninety degrees apart. One of the two dishes had a
smaller
hole in the center, and my climber had to take up snips and a
rasp,
and
basically put a small notch in the center of the dish, to get the
new
feedhorn to fit. The other dish was older, or newer, or something,
and
already had a suitable small notch in the center.
David Smith
MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik
For the large number of us who use Mikrotiks and haven't seen the problems you are having, it just has me suspicious that the problems you've seen with the Mikrotiks are a result of an indirect problem. Then again maybe the Mikrotik's just don't do well in a large bridge environment? On 09/17/2010 04:27 AM, Forbes Mercy wrote: How my day ended, I really don't mean to slight Mikotik or it's dealers. People who route their networks will have a fraction of the problems I have but I have to admit the excuse of must be your employees or that never happens got old about 20 outages ago. Today I had 8 major outages, 4 of them we found a bridge or ports erased and the IP displaying 0.0.0.0. This was an easy fix, log in and add the bridge and ports then click on the IP and it came back legitimate again. Shame we had to make the trip to the towers to do that. The other 4 not so easy, they showed the IP correctly but not in Winbox and they had the MAC address as 00.00.00.00.00, well 12 times, you get it. Those we had to pull the backhaul and reset it then reprogram it. A hellish day but we didn't miss the fact that the UBNT units never crashed no matter what this crazy bridging issue was. It was just a real bad day to be in this business but I appreciate the help that I got from Mikrotik dealers who really care to help resolve this but are as equally frustrated as I was, while aging about 3 years in one day. Like watching a baby sleep the night is uneventful after a 15 hour work day and my with my added worry about taking 4 vacation days this weekend. I wish I could trust the equipment from overreacting to every damn bit of unfriendly traffic by shutting down the LAN port or resetting the radio but I can't, it's my employees problem now but it will certainly take away from the joy of my time off since I know their attitude is more like, 'let them wait' then my feeling of 'people down is lost income', employees Forbes On 9/16/2010 7:44 PM, RickG wrote: For me, the StarOS/WRAP combo performed very well since 2004. The only issues I had were coax related. Otherwise, I agree, I dont like equipment you have to put together. I save my tinkering around for personal stuff but much rather have a fully designed radio for commercial purposes. On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net mailto:markl...@uwol.net wrote: There's something to be said for losing faith in a technology. For me, it's the build-it-yourself radios. All of them. Mikrotik StarOS. For me, I see such a high service call rate for repairs, the need to put in redundant backhauls sooner than later because we can almost guarantee something's going to malfunction. Ubiquiti has brought to us good enough pricing to have us make the leap of faith and hopefully their product is more stable over time, keeping much of the success or failure of a unit out of the hands of the installer. - Original Message - From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:04 AM Subject: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik I have about 30 seconds to leave this, I'm going to pull every Mikrotik I have, that's about 30 radios and replace them with UBNIT. I'm sick and tired of spending all last night because two radios just dropped their IP setting to 0.0.0.0 and the other MAC to 0.0.0.0, today another system storm crash, what stayed up, my two Ubiquiti towers. You can say what you want but I have daily outages, we never find the cause and I'm sick of it... flame away I don't care I'm just sick of Mikrotik. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik
I would have to agree...you could switch to all UBNT, but whose to say they will handle a large bridging network any better? I think before making any kind hardware change, you need to convert the network into a routed environment to control traffic. On 09/17/2010 08:39 AM, Justin Wilson wrote: If it's all bridged then ARP tables fill up, memory runs low, and all kinds of things happen. I know Forbes has mentioned a bridged network on here before. I would put your money into routing the network and *then* get rid of the mikrotiks if they are still problems after the routing is done. You will be amazed at how much a routed network will improve the quality of the network. There are other things he could try to hunt down, but until all that bridging is stopped it will be an uphill battle. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog -- xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw -- Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting -- Tower Climbing -- Network Support *From: *Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com *Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Date: *Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:27:25 -0700 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik How my day ended, I really don't mean to slight Mikrotik or it's dealers. People who route their networks will have a fraction of the problems I have but I have to admit the excuse of must be your employees or that never happens got old about 20 outages ago. Today I had 8 major outages, 4 of them we found a bridge or ports erased and the IP displaying 0.0.0.0. This was an easy fix, log in and add the bridge and ports then click on the IP and it came back legitimate again. Shame we had to make the trip to the towers to do that. The other 4 not so easy, they showed the IP correctly but not in Winbox and they had the MAC address as 00.00.00.00.00, well 12 times, you get it. Those we had to pull the backhaul and reset it then reprogram it. A hellish day but we didn't miss the fact that the UBNT units never crashed no matter what this crazy bridging issue was. It was just a real bad day to be in this business but I appreciate the help that I got from Mikrotik dealers who really care to help resolve this but are as equally frustrated as I was, while aging about 3 years in one day. Like watching a baby sleep the night is uneventful after a 15 hour work day and my with my added worry about taking 4 vacation days this weekend. I wish I could trust the equipment from overreacting to every damn bit of unfriendly traffic by shutting down the LAN port or resetting the radio but I can't, it's my employees problem now but it will certainly take away from the joy of my time off since I know their attitude is more like, 'let them wait' then my feeling of 'people down is lost income', employees Forbes On 9/16/2010 7:44 PM, RickG wrote: For me, the StarOS/WRAP combo performed very well since 2004. The only issues I had were coax related. Otherwise, I agree, I dont like equipment you have to put together. I save my tinkering around for personal stuff but much rather have a fully designed radio for commercial purposes. On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net wrote: There's something to be said for losing faith in a technology. For me, it's the build-it-yourself radios. All of them. Mikrotik StarOS. For me, I see such a high service call rate for repairs, the need to put in redundant backhauls sooner than later because we can almost guarantee something's going to malfunction. Ubiquiti has brought to us good enough pricing to have us make the leap of faith and hopefully their product is more stable over time, keeping much of the success or failure of a unit out of the hands of the installer. - Original Message - From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:04 AM Subject: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik I have about 30 seconds to leave this, I'm going to pull every Mikrotik I have, that's about 30 radios and replace them with UBNIT. I'm sick and tired of spending all last night because two radios just dropped their IP setting to 0.0.0.0 and the other MAC to 0.0.0.0, today another system storm crash, what stayed up, my two Ubiquiti towers. You can say what you want but I have daily outages, we never find the cause and I'm sick of it... flame away I don't care I'm just sick of Mikrotik.
Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik
Can't say I've seen that yet, but we have newer Mikrotiks...Of course the bigger question is what happens if you do make that change and your problem doesn't go away?. On 09/16/2010 02:16 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: If it doesn't work for you it doesn't work, no need to try and fix it if Ubiquiti works. Though I am curious to know how it lost its configuration as I have only seen that on two occurrences, on an rb153 and rb532 (which are pretty old). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: I have about 30 seconds to leave this, I'm going to pull every Mikrotik I have, that's about 30 radios and replace them with UBNIT. I'm sick and tired of spending all last night because two radios just dropped their IP setting to 0.0.0.0 and the other MAC to 0.0.0.0, today another system storm crash, what stayed up, my two Ubiquiti towers. You can say what you want but I have daily outages, we never find the cause and I'm sick of it... flame away I don't care I'm just sick of Mikrotik. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
We enabled it both in the CPE and AP. We also added queue rules in both the CPE and AP to ensure that VoIP traffic got priority not just at layer 2, but layer 3. On 09/13/2010 10:43 PM, RickG wrote: Did you do that in your firewall, the ap, or both? On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: We enabled WMM on our Mikrotik's and then just added a Mangle rule to ensure the DSCP was marked correctly, this solved VoIP issues for our users. On 09/13/2010 02:20 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I see, you're talking about quality not raw speeds - you said complaints about slowdowns. I would say TDMA would be the best bet to solve this problem cost effectively. If you half the channel size, half the number of clients. Not the other way around. Can the UBNT co-exist Contract issues says he can only replace the radio, not add more equipment. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:17 PM, John Vogeljvo...@vogent.net mailto:jvo...@vogent.net wrote: Can the UBNT co-exist with MT APs in the same environment or will the UBNT wipe out all other 802.11x based APs on nearby channels within hearing distance? On 9/13/2010 1:10 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: From personal experience I can tell you that you will be very happy when you make the switch. I just replaced three Mikrotik BH/AP units, pings went from their rather wild 30-120ms swings to a steady 15ms no matter what time. Just be ready for three things, you can't put usernames in the ACL like Mikrotik, there is less routing because UBNT expects filtering to be done in your router before their equipment, and it will never go down because it's just a transparent bridge so traffic that would have overwhelmed Mikrotik equipment and crashed the LAN port won't happen on Ubiquity. Oh and you're right, I've found that if you use dual-polarity you can't mix that with non-dual and connections with non-, its far better to have all Airmax running rather than a mix, this means replacing CPE so that all customers on that tower are the same equipment, spendy (relative to UBNT's low cost) but worth it. Forbes Mercy Washington Broadband On 9/13/2010 10:31 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: All my APs are Mikrotik. My CPE’s are a mix of Tranzeo and UBNT. I have a AP with 58 Clients on it and starting to get complaints about slowdowns. They are all setup 10 MHz channel 802.11g. This is a tower that due to contractual issues I cannot add anymore equipment. So I am considering taking down the Mikrotik and 120 degree sector and putting up a UBNT Rocket and Airmax 120 sector. It will take time to physically switch all my clients to new UBNT Airmax equipment but would like to get it done before the snow flies. Has anyone down this? Success? I know I cannot turn on Airmax till everyone is on the UBNT with that capability but does it work fine till you get it on? Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
First at the interface level, you need to enable WMM. Then I set up the following rules which ensures that DSCP sets layer 2 priority WMM needs: /ip firewall mangle add action=set-priority chain=prerouting comment=VoIP WMM disabled=no new-priority=from-dscp passthrough=yes protocol=\ udp Most VoIP services tend to use DSCP of 46. Then I set a somewhat broadbase firewall/queue rule which basically says UDP packets should get preference since 99.9% of VoIP is UDP and I make it the first queue rule before all others. /ip firewall mangle add action=mark-packet chain=forward comment=VoIP disabled=no in-interface=ether1 new-packet-mark=VoIP \ passthrough=no protocol=udp /queue simple add burst-limit=0/0 burst-threshold=0/0 burst-time=0s/0s comment= direction=both disabled=no dst-address=0.0.0.0/0 interface=all \ limit-at=0/0 max-limit=0/0 name=VoIP Traffic packet-marks=VoIP parent=none priority=1 queue=synchronous-default/synchronous-default \ total-queue=default-small These rules can be massaged quite a bit to be more specific since a lot of other apps use UDP too. Some things we'll do to make the rule more specific is find out the users VoIP provider and then setup the queue based on the VoIP's IP block. On 09/14/2010 07:36 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote: What specific rules did you add for your voip. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 14, 2010, at 5:21 AM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: We enabled it both in the CPE and AP. We also added queue rules in both the CPE and AP to ensure that VoIP traffic got priority not just at layer 2, but layer 3. On 09/13/2010 10:43 PM, RickG wrote: Did you do that in your firewall, the ap, or both? On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: We enabled WMM on our Mikrotik's and then just added a Mangle rule to ensure the DSCP was marked correctly, this solved VoIP issues for our users. On 09/13/2010 02:20 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I see, you're talking about quality not raw speeds - you said complaints about slowdowns. I would say TDMA would be the best bet to solve this problem cost effectively. If you half the channel size, half the number of clients. Not the other way around. Can the UBNT co-exist Contract issues says he can only replace the radio, not add more equipment. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:17 PM, John Vogeljvo...@vogent.net mailto:jvo...@vogent.net wrote: Can the UBNT co-exist with MT APs in the same environment or will the UBNT wipe out all other 802.11x based APs on nearby channels within hearing distance? On 9/13/2010 1:10 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: From personal experience I can tell you that you will be very happy when you make the switch. I just replaced three Mikrotik BH/AP units, pings went from their rather wild 30-120ms swings to a steady 15ms no matter what time. Just be ready for three things, you can't put usernames in the ACL like Mikrotik, there is less routing because UBNT expects filtering to be done in your router before their equipment, and it will never go down because it's just a transparent bridge so traffic that would have overwhelmed Mikrotik equipment and crashed the LAN port won't happen on Ubiquity. Oh and you're right, I've found that if you use dual-polarity you can't mix that with non-dual and connections with non-, its far better to have all Airmax running rather than a mix, this means replacing CPE so that all customers on that tower are the same equipment, spendy (relative to UBNT's low cost) but worth it. Forbes Mercy Washington Broadband On 9/13/2010 10:31 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: All my APs are Mikrotik. My CPE’s are a mix of Tranzeo and UBNT. I have a AP with 58 Clients on it and starting to get complaints about slowdowns. They are all setup 10 MHz channel 802.11g. This is a tower that due to contractual issues I cannot add anymore equipment. So I am considering taking down the Mikrotik and 120 degree sector and putting up a UBNT Rocket and Airmax 120 sector. It will take time to physically switch all my clients to new UBNT Airmax equipment but would like to get it done before the snow flies. Has anyone down this? Success? I know I cannot turn on Airmax till everyone is on the UBNT with that capability but does it work fine till you get it on? Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
Can you go to a bigger channel size? Are the CPE's running any form of QoS? On 09/13/2010 01:43 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: *At peak times I am running about 4-6M 95^th percentile on this one AP. * * * *Steve Barnes * RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/ *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, September 13, 2010 1:34 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge What kind of bandwidth are you pushing through the ap now? On Sep 13, 2010 1:32 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote: All my APs are Mikrotik. My CPE's are a mix of Tranzeo and UBNT. I have a AP with 58 Clients on it and starting to get complaints about slowdowns. They are all setup 10 MHz channel 802.11g. This is a tower that due to contractual issues I cannot add anymore equipment. So I am considering taking down the Mikrotik and 120 degree sector and putting up a UBNT Rocket and Airmax 120 sector. It will take time to physically switch all my clients to new UBNT Airmax equipment but would like to get it done before the snow flies. Has anyone down this? Success? I know I cannot turn on Airmax till everyone is on the UBNT with that capability but does it work fine till you get it on? *Steve Barnes* RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
We enabled WMM on our Mikrotik's and then just added a Mangle rule to ensure the DSCP was marked correctly, this solved VoIP issues for our users. On 09/13/2010 02:20 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I see, you're talking about quality not raw speeds - you said complaints about slowdowns. I would say TDMA would be the best bet to solve this problem cost effectively. If you half the channel size, half the number of clients. Not the other way around. Can the UBNT co-exist Contract issues says he can only replace the radio, not add more equipment. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:17 PM, John Vogeljvo...@vogent.net wrote: Can the UBNT co-exist with MT APs in the same environment or will the UBNT wipe out all other 802.11x based APs on nearby channels within hearing distance? On 9/13/2010 1:10 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: From personal experience I can tell you that you will be very happy when you make the switch. I just replaced three Mikrotik BH/AP units, pings went from their rather wild 30-120ms swings to a steady 15ms no matter what time. Just be ready for three things, you can't put usernames in the ACL like Mikrotik, there is less routing because UBNT expects filtering to be done in your router before their equipment, and it will never go down because it's just a transparent bridge so traffic that would have overwhelmed Mikrotik equipment and crashed the LAN port won't happen on Ubiquity. Oh and you're right, I've found that if you use dual-polarity you can't mix that with non-dual and connections with non-, its far better to have all Airmax running rather than a mix, this means replacing CPE so that all customers on that tower are the same equipment, spendy (relative to UBNT's low cost) but worth it. Forbes Mercy Washington Broadband On 9/13/2010 10:31 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: All my APs are Mikrotik. My CPE’s are a mix of Tranzeo and UBNT. I have a AP with 58 Clients on it and starting to get complaints about slowdowns. They are all setup 10 MHz channel 802.11g. This is a tower that due to contractual issues I cannot add anymore equipment. So I am considering taking down the Mikrotik and 120 degree sector and putting up a UBNT Rocket and Airmax 120 sector. It will take time to physically switch all my clients to new UBNT Airmax equipment but would like to get it done before the snow flies. Has anyone down this? Success? I know I cannot turn on Airmax till everyone is on the UBNT with that capability but does it work fine till you get it on? Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis
Agree for the most part, but as of recently we've been dealing with the latency through their network over in the New England region...frustratingly, Cogent is not owning up to it at the moment, but I'm guessing with their low Mbps per pricing and the economy being in the dumps, they've probably have done well in selling onto their network which has now become oversubscribe...well at least in the Boston-NYC corridor as other parts of their network seem fine. Bret On 09/10/2010 11:00 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: Nothing wrong with cogent .. --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis I believe WISPerISP (or something like that) has a Cogent pipe (in addition to others) out of St. Louis. Might want to hit them up to ask. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 9:07 AM, Jason Hensley wrote: Anyone peer with Cogent in St Louis? Goods? Bads? Have heard mostly positive but real-world feedback would be great. Thanks! -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Recommendation on Redline's PtP line?
One thing nice about Redlines is that you put them up and seem to forget about them. We use them as our primary PTP links between bases. They are very nice units, but won't argue that they are expensive. On 09/08/2010 09:54 PM, Francois Menard wrote: Was just quoted sub $7K for a pair of AN80i @ 3.65 GHz. 70 mbps on a 20 MHz channel. Intend on trying it ASAP. I have more faith in this as a solid BH than a pair of RocketM365... then again, a pair of those with RocketDishes is sub 900$ ... F. On 2010-09-08, at 3:12 PM, Rogelio wrote: I've got a project where I need some affordable PtP links with as little latency as possible, and a friend recommended Redline http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProducts.do?skus=344025%2C344476WT.mc_id=enewscontactID=13579320gwkey=SVRE3SHRV3 http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=344476eventPage=1 http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=344025eventPage=1 They are TDD, and from what I hear, they are conservative in their throughput numbers but tend to outperform other vendors who inflate their numbers. Any input there? The ones I listed there run about $1600 retail on TESSCO's site. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FW: FIPS 140-2
Seems Meru has a solution or try googling 802.11 fips http://www.merunetworks.com/corporate/press_releases/index.php?articleID=091609 On 09/07/2010 05:30 PM, Kevin Sullivan wrote: For some reason, they say they can't use 802.16 -- it has to be 802.11. Kevin - Original Message - *From:* Dave Rumore mailto:drum...@redlinecommunications.com *To:* 'wireless@wispa.org' mailto:%27wirel...@wispa.org%27 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 07, 2010 2:24 PM *Subject:* [WISPA] FW: FIPS 140-2 The Redline AN-80i is FIPS 140-2 certified in both PtP and PtMP but they are 802.16 based not 802.11. They are also the most widely deployed COTS (commercial off the shelf) broadband radios in US DoD today. I hope this helps. *redline*^® ** *Communications* *David Rumore* *Territory Manager** *120 Mystic Lane Jupiter, FL 33458 Phone: +1 561.741.0756 Fax: +1 561.741.1561 * *Mobile: 561.254.0758 e-mail: drum...@redlinecommunications.com** Web: www.redlinecommunications.com http://www.redlinecommunications.com/** *Advancing Broadband Wireless * *P** **Think green before printing this email* *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Brad Belton *Sent:* Tuesday, September 07, 2010 4:58 PM *To:* 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] FIPS 140-2 Possibly RedLine or Alvarion, but I think they are only AES256. BridgeWave PtP has been our radio of choice for FIPS 140-2 requirements. Best, Brad *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Kevin Sullivan *Sent:* Tuesday, September 07, 2010 3:52 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] FIPS 140-2 We have a customer that is part of the Federal government, and they are looking for a FIPS 140-2 certified 802.11-based PtMP outdoor solution. Anyone have any ideas? Kevin IMPORTANT NOTICE : This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Redline immediately by email at postmas...@redlinecommunications.com mailto:postmas...@redlinecommunications.com . Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers
Do I dare say we have two (2) 100Mbs circuits for $1500 :)! Of course we were fortunate that we were able to run a wireless backhaul link to a CLEC hotel and thus only have to pay for the data portion since we eliminated the ridiculously cost of the last mile loop charges the ILEC gets. We also are possibly looking at Comcast for a third BGP session, but it is my understanding that they only provide BGP on their Ethernet fiber services...haven't yet confirmed that though. http://business.comcast.com/ethernet/dedicated-internet.aspx On 09/01/2010 03:41 PM, Eric Rogers wrote: I am looking for multiple connections to the internet. We currently have ATT Fiber and IPs. We want to look at redundancy in terms of becoming a BGP peer, and purchasing our own IP addresses. The ONLY other provider in our area is Comcast. Has anyone worked with them to do any BGP peering? What really rocked my boat was that I am seeing new ISPs signing up with ATT Opt-E-Man with 100 MB circuits for $2600/mo. That is less than what I am paying for my 50 MB circuit. I called my sales rep and they stated that I could get a 100 MB circuit for $4200/mo and because I am under contract for another year, there is nothing they can do for price...so pretty much they are saying to me that they want new customers, and anyone under contract they can gouge as long as I am under contract... When can we get rid of these monopolies?!?!? Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers
I agree...the economy sucks, use it to your advantage. Tell your vendor you're having a hard time paying the current rate and that you need to get the price lowered or you may have to look at closing your doors. You'll be amazed at how many will change their tune regarding contract terms. Another thing to try is that if you can get a lower price you'll reup on the contract for another 3 years...or whatever your current contract period was. Bret On 09/01/2010 08:13 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: Not so fast... Sure, if the other party wont let you out of a contract, the ethical thing to do is honor it. BUT... its not unethical for the two parties involved to mutually agree to change an agreement for mutual benefit. Most contracts specifically allow that. There are many reasons a party might want to let the other party out of a contract term or renegotiate it. A vendor does not benefit if a Buyer goes out of business. A Vendor does not benefit if a Buyer is locked in for another year at a high rate, if that rate forces the buyer to signup with another provider at a lower rate for the rest of enternity. Its called customer retention. When the market changes sometime contracts need to adapt with the new market conditions. One must also ask what it might cost to inforce a contract, and sometimes taht is more than the revenue that would be discounted by keeping the custoemr happy and retained long term and paying on time. I'm not going to mention any names, but at ISPCON, someone I considered a mentor spoke at a session, and what he learned was So what if there is a contract... Hold out, and convince your vendors why they should work with you on price. While under contract, he was able to get most vendors to lower prices, for mutual benefit. Admittedly, ATT is not like a company that would easily budge on contract terms, expecially in an underserved area where they are a near monopoly, but it doesn't mean that they wont. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnsont...@ida.net To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers So what you are saying is that YOU shouldn't have to uphold YOUR end of the contract? How does that make sense? Travis Microserv On 9/1/2010 1:41 PM, Eric Rogers wrote: I am looking for multiple connections to the internet. We currently have ATT Fiber and IPs. We want to look at redundancy in terms of becoming a BGP peer, and purchasing our own IP addresses. The ONLY other provider in our area is Comcast. Has anyone worked with them to do any BGP peering? What really rocked my boat was that I am seeing new ISPs signing up with ATT Opt-E-Man with 100 MB circuits for $2600/mo. That is less than what I am paying for my 50 MB circuit. I called my sales rep and they stated that I could get a 100 MB circuit for $4200/mo and because I am under contract for another year, there is nothing they can do for price...so pretty much they are saying to me that they want new customers, and anyone under contract they can gouge as long as I am under contract... When can we get rid of these monopolies?!?!? Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo lockups
I know with our older Tranzeo's it was a common problem, since we switch to MT, we haven't seen that problem, plus the features MT provides is light years beyond any Tranzeo. Bret On 08/31/2010 12:05 AM, Mark Dueck wrote: I've been having quite a bit of problems with Tranzeo radios not coming back online if I make a change to them remotely. Usualy this is with AP's or backhaul links. I'd say about 30% of the time they will not come back after making a change. Is anyone else experiencing this? Does UBNT ever have that problem, or MT? Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.
On 08/31/2010 06:02 PM, MDK wrote: As the distances go up, the longer it takes for the packet to be transmitted from one point to another, and the round trip time grows, which reduces the throughput. That doesn't sound right to me...radio waves travel at the speed of light. There is some round trip time for internal electronics processing, but usually what happens is that on further links the radio's have to go to a more robust modulation scheme such as QPSK rather them QAM so you can't transmit as much info. Of course to compensate for that you can increase the frequency being used, higher power, etc. Bret WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation
Mikrotik would work too...worst case you put them off center a bit to help degrade signal if they are too hot. On 08/30/2010 12:43 PM, Jason Hensley wrote: Yes, clear LOS. Considered the Nanostations. Prefer a Mikrotik solution though. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Monday, August 30, 2010 11:38 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation You didnt mention if clear LOS or not. If so, Nanostation2. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com mailto:ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Need something that will go a very short distance (less than 150') with power that's able to adjust down to where it doesn't burn up radios. Has to mount outside, and no, there's no way to run Ethernet or fiber in this situation. Bandwidth is not that big of a deal -- 3-6meg will be more than enough. Need only for VoIP traffic between two buildings. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Comcast
On 08/26/2010 05:59 PM, David E. Smith wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 16:55, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com mailto:jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Comcast has just rolled out their 50/10 and 100/20 service here. At 189.99 for 50/10 I was seriously considering ordering one as a backup connection if my main connection failed. Talked to the sales manager and they had no problem with it and would put it on the contract. Any suggestions or has anyone else had a dealing with this type connection as a backup. Wouldn't you have to get them to run BGP over this connection, so you can keep things online? I suppose this would work if you were really desperate, and willing to basically NAT your whole network, but you wouldn't want to do that for more than a couple hours while the real links are repaired. David Smith MVN.net And I don't believe Comcast offers BGP not to mention you mileage will vary with the quality of the link. Tends to be great when you're the first one on it, but as they start overselling their backbone quality drops dramatically...we've had quite few customers come back to us for this exact reason. I suppose in a pinch it would be better then nothing. Bret WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Inexpensive outdoor netcam
Sometimes a simple sign and fake camera is all you need. Also get a sign that says High Powered MIcrowave in use and unauthorized entry could result in Death! On 08/24/2010 10:53 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I'm looking for an inexpensive outdoor netcam. Inexpensive because funds are slim as I rebuild the network I just bought. I need it because a tower of mine was vandalized today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Inexpensive outdoor netcam
Actually I got the sign idea because we are right next to an FAA tower and that is exactly the sign they have on their gated fence...although in the FAA's case it's probably true! On 08/25/2010 07:12 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: heh, there's already someone complaining about the health effects of the tower. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/25/2010 6:07 AM, Bret Clark wrote: Sometimes a simple sign and fake camera is all you need. Also get a sign that says High Powered MIcrowave in use and unauthorized entry could result in Death! On 08/24/2010 10:53 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I'm looking for an inexpensive outdoor netcam. Inexpensive because funds are slim as I rebuild the network I just bought. I need it because a tower of mine was vandalized today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Major Disaster
900MHz is scary to work with...we've seen problems in the past from someone just getting a wireless 900MHz baby monitor that would affect others in the general area of the home. It could also be that someone is hogging or trashing your bandwidth too. Do you implement any type of QoS? On 08/18/2010 11:11 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Changed frequencies? Are all customers having problems or just several? many? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:05 AM, ~NGL~n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a tower with all Tranzeo equipment. Backhaul to tower is TR-5plus 5.8 The AP is TR-902 NF with a 180 degree antenna. 50 TR-902-11 as clients All was working well until about 10 days ago when we noticed the speeds were starting to decline. Since then it is a nightmare speeds are usually good 3000Mbps up and 1.2 down] Then during the next 4-5 hour speed decline to about 100k up Speeds remain good and constant thru the backhaul We have done the following: Changed the AP Rewired the tower Replaced the power to the AP Any suggestions as to what problem is. We are a small company and this could break us NGL WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tell Google not to destroy the Internet
Would Google say it was true??? On 08/05/2010 01:51 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Google updated Twitter saying that story is false. On Aug 5, 2010 1:46 PM, Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com mailto:ple...@apertonet.com wrote: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-silver/google-verizon-deal-the-e_b_67 1617.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-silver/google-verizon-deal-the-e_b_67%0A1617.html They are closing a deal with Verizon on Monday that will essentially blackmail content providers. Want your content to get through faster? Pay us. That is pretty much it in a nutshell. Maybe ISPs around the world should block Google entirely unless they pay you then. Patrick As an individual WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] I NEED HELP
Sounds a lot like a proxy arp issue where a device is trying to answer for all the other devices and clearly on a big network that is not going to work well. On 08/01/2010 02:20 PM, Justin Wilson wrote: If it is bridged a single router plugged in backwords can bring down the whole network. Some 750's would be a good fix.When I had HighGain Aps as bridges we would run into this problem as well. I never figured it out because we eventually went to MT aps. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog Wisp Consulting -- Tower Climbing -- Network Support *From: *Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com *Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Date: *Sun, 1 Aug 2010 14:09:29 -0400 *To: *'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] I NEED HELP Forbes, I remember seeing something similar to this on the list a few months back. Turned out he guy was running a bridged network and water got into the Ethernet connector on a Bullet and was causing Layer2 broadcast storms on the network. Very similar results to what you are reporting. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 2:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] I NEED HELP This has been a very long day, after a lightning storm we started to have towers randomly drop for 2-10 minutes with no consistency as to where, how how long. The tower that was affected by last nights lightning restarted (locally) so that wasn't it. The outages were so extensive that at one time we had 17 devices down and five minutes later 65 devices down, 10 minutes later 33, so you see where this is coming from. I went to the head end and rebooted everything from the core router on out., changed passwords on the core in case it had been compromised but show run didn't reveal anything. Oh the other thing, every computer we have started to say IP address is in use on the network, no matter what we changed it to, even a subnet we don't yet use it said it was in use. I had to repair my connection often just to do work on the network and it would work for a while then again say duplicate IP. That's why I'm convinced it's traffic. I started turning Towers back on one at a time and for about 6 towers there were no drops, I drove to the next junction site to turn more on but by then the original 6 were dropping, I turned the rest of them on but by now it's 11PM so traffic was probably lower as it's Sat. Night. Honestly I don't know what to do, Our Backhauls are all Mikrotik to our 12 towers, WireShark isn't seeing anything unusual, I have icmp packet drop in the filters. My weekend is basically ruined, what's new in this business, but if anyone has ideas I've talked to two networking gurus in town and they both said geez I don't know you wireless guys have way bigger networks than we do. sigh. Thanks, Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Health Insurance
We went through an independent broker who essentially had created a small business group plan of area businesses that help keep cost down verses us going to the insurer ourselves. Another thing to consider is Health Savings Accounts (HSA) which are a lot less then regular health insurance but at least affords some piece of mind for employees in the event they are faced with a serious medical or health issue. Bret On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 19:07 -0400, David Weddell wrote: I know that we are constantly battling pricing in health insurance. We would be interested in how we could participate in a “WISPA” group plan and with 60+ employees and families that we cover, you can imagine our monthly premium. I would assume that in an association plan, the more that participate, the better rates could be negotiated. We would be interested in helping with negotiations if needed. I believe this is a great idea and could benefit WISPA as a whole and encourage membership as well. Regards, David Weddell VP Business Development Corporate Partnerships Omnicity, Inc. www.omnicity.net OTCMarkets: OMCY 866 586 1518 Corporate Office 765 499 7310 Cell From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:40 PM To: 'WISPA General List'; memb...@wispa.org; motor...@afmug.com Subject: [WISPA Members] Health Insurance I am curious about all the small operators out there. What are you doing for Health Insurance? Do you have individual policies? Are you on your wife’s policy? Is there a need for a WISPA Group Health Insurance Plan? I will be investigating this topic over the next few weeks. I will most likely send out a survey in a week or two once I get together with an underwriter and see what the feasibility is. Between now and then, I would like to encourage discussion to see whether it is worth our effort. My goal is to offer a group plan that will assist those who do not have enough employees to justify an in-house group plan for their employees or themselves. Hopefully, we can reduce your cost and improve your coverage. Respectfully, Rick Harnish President WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting
Ouch...is that measure or unmeasured? Measured around NH is about $10-$12 minus the slush fund and bogus add on fees. I think last time I checked total was about $15-$20 including fees. On 07/27/2010 05:01 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Where are you getting PSTN for 10/mo? We start at 60/mo with no features or usage from three large telcos around here. On Jul 27, 2010 4:57 PM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: Why not just get a basic business measured POT's line...probably $10 a month? There are lots of devices that will run off of touch tone signaling in which you can issue turnoff/turnon commands. On 07/27/2010 04:50 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: They still them and actively support them in many a... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting
Pay for all local inbound and outbound calls. Unmeasured was free local calls...still paid for LD. On 07/27/2010 06:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What do you mean measured? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: Ouch...is that measure or unmeasured? Measured around NH is about $10-$12 minus the slush fund and bogus add on fees. I think last time I checked total was about $15-$20 including fees. On 07/27/2010 05:01 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Where are you getting PSTN for 10/mo? We start at 60/mo with no features or usage from three large telcos around here. On Jul 27, 2010 4:57 PM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: Why not just get a basic business measured POT's line...probably $10 a month? There are lots of devices that will run off of touch tone signaling in which you can issue turnoff/turnon commands. On 07/27/2010 04:50 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: They still them and actively support them in many a... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?
I'm not sure I buy it...I can see you picking up the signal, but there is no way in hell that a netbook can transmit that far. On 06/12/2010 11:34 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: with a 1W amp. Chuck Profito wrote: probably a ruckus on the other end -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it. After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook. Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi card it came with. I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google on the browser to confirm connectivity. Google popped up, meaning things were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test. I got about 30KB/s speed, which is like painfully slow. I was standing outside, with the netbook sitting on the hood of my truck. So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access point ... 11 MILES AWAY! I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant. It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the netbook. I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, dhcp assignment, and transfer data. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.
Feeling competitive pressure from Bing! On 06/10/2010 08:10 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: The Future On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: What be this Google visual abomination!!! YAR! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.
Probably talking about the built in one with FF. On 06/10/2010 10:06 AM, Robert West wrote: I do. I boycott those toolbars. I'm sure the Google bar is one of the actually useful ones but the majority of them are C R A P. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 10:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control. On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 00:24, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: What be this Google visual abomination!!! Does anyone actually use the Google front page? I just go straight to the Google search bar in my browser. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp
On 05/27/2010 01:23 PM, Jeremie Chism wrote: and the customer who does perpetual speed tests and as soon as he doesn't get his speed ( even though he knows it is best effort and not dedicated) wants you to come out. Wait a minute we have that customer too...so he's using you for a connection as well ;)! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google Pac Man
What is funny is that google can run that game in a simple web page...back in 1980 I used to think you needed super computers to run games like pacman! I don't know what it is about those games, but in some ways they seem just more fun to play...maybe because of the simplistiy of the games and concepts. I'm not a big gamer now a days, but I find the FPS games to get boring after awhile. On 05/21/2010 01:19 PM, RickG wrote: Pacman, Excitebike, Galaga, MechWarrior, taking me back! Go back a bit further to Zork - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork. Here is an interesting story: I was an IBM Field Engineer in my previous life. When I first started there, I maintained System/360 mainframes for the large banks in LA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_360 We loaded and ran two games on the system back in 1979, Zork and Startrek. LOL, the banks timeshared the system and tracked usage in order to bill each department. One day they asked why engineering was running so many diagnostics :) -RickG On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Mark Nash - Listsmarkl...@uwol.net wrote: Used to go down to Laguna Beach CA with a group. They had a LAN system with full-surround pods intercom to your teammates. Had mech battles - Original Message - From: David E. Smithd...@mvn.net To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google Pac Man On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:33, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: They have a version of the arcade joy stick and button board to plug into the computer if you are using MAME or other arcade emulators. I purchased one for the wife a couple of years back so she could play some god awful game called Elevator Action on her laptop. Game sucks but the X-Arcade deal is pretty sweet. I know. One of these weeks I'll buy one of their big dual joysticks, hook it up to the PS3, and have a wild Super Street Fighter IV party. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Licensed PMP Gear
On 05/13/2010 11:59 AM, David E. Smith wrote: On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:25, Bret Clarkbcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: I must have missed it, but what did the telcos do with the 3.65 range? I dunno whether this was the telcos' doing, or not, but the power rules in 3.65 are silly and counter-intuitive. Basically, your EIRP is limited to... the width of your channel. Need a small, long-distance link? Too bad, a 5MHz channel limits you to 5 watts EIRP (about 37dBm). Using better antennas doesn't help; there's no tradeoff power for antenna gain rule like 2.4 PTP. A 20MHz-wide channel lets you go up to 20 watts EIRP (43 dBm). The rules encourage using more spectrum than you really need, and make it very difficult to set up longer-distance links - even if you use all 25MHz available to you, there's a hard cap of 25 W EIRP (or 44.something dBm). David Smith MVN.net Oh yeah..that I knew...was worried some new just happen, thanks for the info. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
yeah and speedtest is better...not. On 05/13/2010 08:32 PM, Larry A Weidig wrote: Wow, I knew our connections were fast - now I need to figure out what to charge! Just downloaded the entire Internet in less than a second :) Not a very accurate tool! * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bret Clark Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:26 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests I didn't find speedtest mini to be that accurate, although it's be over a year since I last tried it. I actually found ajaxometer to be much better. http://sourceforge.net/projects/ajaxometer/ On 05/13/2010 06:24 PM, Michael Baird wrote: We are a speedtest.net host, so customers who head to speedtest anyway are redirected to a local httpd on our network, geographical competitors get sent to our network as well which has the side benefit of a little advert for us. Regards Michael Baird From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various offsite speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can set up on my network? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
Wait a minute...you ran the demo...that's not a real test, just shows what it's output looks like. Here is one that is running http://www.gunix.co.uk/speedtest/ajax/ajaxometer.php On 05/13/2010 08:32 PM, Larry A Weidig wrote: Wow, I knew our connections were fast - now I need to figure out what to charge! Just downloaded the entire Internet in less than a second :) Not a very accurate tool! * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bret Clark Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:26 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests I didn't find speedtest mini to be that accurate, although it's be over a year since I last tried it. I actually found ajaxometer to be much better. http://sourceforge.net/projects/ajaxometer/ On 05/13/2010 06:24 PM, Michael Baird wrote: We are a speedtest.net host, so customers who head to speedtest anyway are redirected to a local httpd on our network, geographical competitors get sent to our network as well which has the side benefit of a little advert for us. Regards Michael Baird From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various offsite speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can set up on my network? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
