I don't know about elsewhere but encores are traditional in Australia. It
gives people the chance to give props to the DJ. If there's no screaming for
encores, it's seen as a diss to the DJ. Jeff Mills, Derrick, Stacey, all
have done them. And lo behold local DJs coming on after who don't give
I've seen DJs play overtime before, but an encore seems a bit bizarre to me
considering that what a good DJ does can't be done in the few minutes an
encore usually gets.
At 12:41 PM 2/27/02 +1100, David Gillies wrote:
To me the point of having a DJ is having someone create something over a
I've seen DJs play overtime before, but an encore seems a bit bizarre to me
considering that what a good DJ does can't be done in the few minutes an
encore usually gets.
Maybe encore is the wrong word. It was more like people wouldn't leave, just
kept dancing, so he just kept playing. Security
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I've never heard of a DJ getting an encore in the US, except for the Jeff
Mills Liquid Room CD which I also thought was bizarre. The closest I've
ever come was Doc Martin at Twilo sometime in 95 (right after it turned
from the Sound Factory). They kept trying to turn on the lights and turn
off
Rob Hood in Toronto back in '98lights on still playing, he wouldn't
leave no matter what was said..just kept playingneedless to say...SWEET
Trevor Wilkes
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What they normally do is pull out a quirky record, or a favourite, something
special - this is what I notice Derrick does. Stacey pulled out a drum 'n'
bass record once, he dug real deep to find it. These were at the Innovator
parties here and the promoter Richard M always instructed his staff to
IMO You people are crazy. I live in Detroit and most any time I hear him spin
or see him he's a total ass. I am not much for his DJing, maybe he just likes
to be wasted when he DJs Detroit.
allnight [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/26/02 09:24 AM
man i dont just respect him. in fact i never meet
I've never heard of a DJ getting an encore in the US, except for the Jeff
Mills Liquid Room CD which I also thought was bizarre. The closest I've
ever come was Doc Martin at Twilo sometime in 95 (right after it turned
from the Sound Factory). They kept trying to turn on the lights and turn
(I only ever give mho btw - before u strike up those flamethrowers!) The
missed point here, possibly because of cultural differences is that an
encore (and I'm only talking about Europe) has got very little to do with a
dj being taken by surprise at the strength of feeling he's created - if s/he
An elaboration on 'total ass' would be helpful - it's quite hard to be a
TOTAL ass in a DJ booth, there's really not much to do but play! Plus your
experiences of him being 'wasted when he DJs Detroit' I eagerly await.
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An elaboration on 'total ass' would be helpful - it's quite hard to be a
thats your opinion and fair enough but
a bit harsh don't you think?
I mean he's allowed to do what he wants , he mnay think your a total
ass...and thats his opinion :)
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Hi all,
A lot of the old records by Mills have tracks on them that do not start at
normal volume levels, but somehow the track gets faded in. (And not only
Mills of course)
Am I the only one who thinks of this being a real drag? I really like a
specific track from AX009 but I find it really
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I consider most of Mills' stuff being really DJ friendly, but why does he
produce his tracks this way? Also, anyone got tips on dealing with this?
Purpose Maker tracks don't fade in because they're dj tools. Axis tracks
sometimes
do fade in because they are music!
No Wibo, you're not thae only one! I only own one Mills record myself but
I've heard friends moaning about the fade in starts to some of Mills'
records. Wasn't there a post only yesterday that explained why he did this?
Is this a co-incidence? Am I going mad???
I second that! YMC's Orange Lady (my favorite track of 99 BTW) is one with
that gradual fade in thing - really a challenge mixing them things in;-)
Cheers,
m*
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just play the dj pierre mixes instead. they're some of my favourite tracks.
james
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Unsatisfied with the beginning of the only mix of Late Night, I can
remember deciding to fade in the level from silence for an introduction,
thus discovering a technical trait that I was use
hi wibo,
i am with you all the way on this. tracks that fade in are impossible to
mix in correctly, unless you want to ruin the natural flow and structure
of your mix.
drexciya (and related projects) do this a lot too and i've never
understood it.
robin...
A lot of the old records by Mills
I'm confused by this thread. I can understand why people mixing a lot of loops
might complain about fade ins, but it sounds a bit strange coming from Djs who
play Mills and Drexciya records.
Do you guys always mix a record right from the start, or what's the problem with
selecting a more mixable
It is not difficult to understand. You are assuming that all techno(related)
tracks are all made for DJ's. I don't think that people like drexciya are
DJ's or make there music for DJ's. They music because of the music and not
fot DJ's.
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Hi,
I'm always a bit confused about how I feel on these practises. I've seen it
happen before: D.J. or producer or singer gets famous easily by being
friends with the right people at the right time, (sometimes good looks are
are great help in this) get noticed by the larger ignorant crowd and
hey - why do you think everyone's selling it? ;)
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Loads of rare stuff including the recently discussed Deepside
i've been here before on the global techno list.
to say that these records are not dj records is a little odd (soz kt), and
what has loops got to do with it? it doesn't matter whether you play loops
or not there is a natural structure to music that, if you follow it, will
make the mix sound
I'm confused by this thread. I can understand why people mixing a lot of loops
might complain about fade ins, but it sounds a bit strange coming from Djs who
play Mills and Drexciya records.
Do you guys always mix a record right from the start, or what's the problem
with
selecting a more
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:I'm not going mad, here it is ...
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:Unsatisfied with the beginning of the only mix of Late Night, I can
:remember deciding to fade in the level from silence for an introduction,
:thus discovering a technical trait that I was use on numerous tracks in my
:recording career. Tresor Records, Berlin
ive got a mills 12 on pow wow (i cant remember if its this one or not) but
it is the crappest pressing ive ever heard in terms of volume - seriously
its only got a couple of tracks on it but it is about half the volume of
most albums! i did get it second hand so it could concievably be a
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I had the pleasure of attending Body and Soul a few years ago on the night
of Francois K's 40th birthday - it finished bang on the stroke of 11pm so as
not to get in trouble with the authorities over the licence.The crowd
weren't having it though - everyone was screaming and shouting for an encore
That makes a lot more sense... I've seen that happen before.
At 12:56 PM 2/27/2002 +1100, David Gillies wrote:
I've seen DJs play overtime before, but an encore seems a bit bizarre to me
considering that what a good DJ does can't be done in the few minutes an
encore usually gets.
Maybe encore
Now this makes sense to me... People don't want to stop dancing so either
the DJ keeps playing despite the clubs protests or something like this
happens.
I guess my confusion over it is more about the DJ as rock star thing
which I guess is the case in Europe but is not so much here. To have a
I know you say this version is unearthed but I have always wanted to know
what the version was that Carl Cox (believe it or not) used on his first
'Fact' mix project. It certainly wasn't the version on Waveforms 1.
Scott M
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There was a thread on this subject last year on the g-tech list. Funnily
enough I used Axis 9 as an example of the merits of fade-ins rather than as a
negative. I've copied it over from the archives:
it can make a track for me.
Sometimes it can give an indication of the intended mood
Any thoughts on what'd be a fair price for this? I have looked for it for a
while and have been quoted at $85 for a copy. This seems like too much, but
maybe it isn't. Let me know off list. Thanks,
Jonny
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Well, I could take this to another level by saying that all records that I play
out are records that are produced in a strict 16 or 32 beat counter (I don't
know if this is clearly explained to everyone, I mean records in which nothing
new pops up until the end of the 16 or 32 counts). Really DJ
Mills has a few excellent hard tracks (especially those early Axis records) that
really would become instant classics and favorite DJ tools if they would just
start from 1 and not with a fade in... And it's not only Mills I am talking
about.
W
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whoop!!
and there goes the crossfader
it's so easy
i can mix every record
;)
At 27-2-2002 +0100 14:43, you wrote:
Mills has a few excellent hard tracks (especially those early Axis
records) that
really would become instant classics and favorite DJ tools if they would just
start from 1
Ive got a pretty big list of stuff for sale at the mo. including Autechre /
Plug / OP-ART / Mike Paradinas etc. etc. If youd like a look please check it
out at www.i123.co.uk
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i was in hmv on saturday and heard black water with a (IMHO) pretty duff
female vocal slapped on top - what is this?
neil
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that's kevin saunderson's wife, ann. i believe it is out on 430 west.
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Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 11:26 AM
To: 313
Subject: [313] black water with vocals?
i was in hmv on saturday and heard black water with a
Wednesday, February 27, 2002, 9:25:37 AM, a knob was tweaked and out came:
NW i was in hmv on saturday and heard black water with a (IMHO) pretty duff
NW female vocal slapped on top - what is this?
Was it the Ann Saunderson vocal mix? Just open your heart,
open your mind, let the love flow let
i've even heard it on daytime radio 1 here in the UK. which was pretty cool
and weird.
on 27/2/02 4:29 pm, Brian 'balistic' Prince at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wednesday, February 27, 2002, 9:25:37 AM, a knob was tweaked and out came:
NW i was in hmv on saturday and heard black water with a
Blackwater - Kevin Saunderson Remix on Concept.
E-Dancer Vocal Mix
E-Dancer Dub Mix
Chase the Blues Instrumental Mix
The original has vocals by Kevin's wife Ann as well, as far as I remember.
At 11:27 AM 2/27/2002 -0500, Rob Theakston wrote:
that's kevin saunderson's wife, ann. i believe it
That's the mix Lawrence Burden plays on the 430 West comp. Personally, I
think the vocal sounds alright but I appreciate that the die-hard techno
heads out there would write it off as cheese instantly.
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Nah, there's nothing wrong with ya. Sometimes, in order to 'break in'
certain measures have to be taken. Surely,there's plenty of ways to go
about it and your explanation is one. If you want to suffer through,
you can. Or if you want to play to it and change your style later on,
that's a
The first promo copy I got of this about 4 months ago had this vocal mix on.
I had always assumed it was the vocal mix that had caused it to become such
as big hit in the first place as the vocals do make it more commercially
uplifting. I personally can't see why the instrumental version has been
Wasn't the Blackwater with vocals the original? I have the release on 430
west by Octave One with the instrumental on one side and Ann Saunderson
singing vocals on the other side. IMO - those vocals are excellent. If
you're talking about a vocal that just says, balckwater over the
background,
Hi all,
Some friends and I are making a trip to New York
(from Detroit) for a nice 4 day vacation and I was
wondering if any of you can throw some recommended
spots my way. I picked up a couple of tickets to go
see Hawtin on the 2nd and as of now that seems to be
the only plan (aside
Does anyone know who's booking these guys in NYC?
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It's not really much to talk about, it's just May. The last time I saw him his
set was ok, but why does he always have to play that cheesy latino stuff? Off
the tables, he was running around hitting on every woman in the building like a
perverse hormone-driven teenage boy.
I've seen him
I am not normally too bothered by fade ins on records as most of the time
you can get around it. But yopu have hit a raw nerve with one record I have
always wished wouldn't fade in. That record is the UR - Turning Point
release. The track with the distorted funked out organ sound. The name
escapes
if you're looking for something to do in new york, try frank's in brooklyn-
tonight around 11pm metro area will be djing. no cover, cheap drinks, and
cheap women.
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-ana
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 09:52:54 -0800 (PST)
To: 313@hyperreal.org
From: Rudy
Duff vocal?? Frankly I quite like it and have played it out quite a bit
What is the general consensus on this though? I am intrigued...
Cheers,
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Hey Wibo...
You could always throw the track into Sound Forge, re-edit it so that it's
more 'DJ friendly' and burn it to CD...
Just a thought,
m*
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They also just recorded a version with live strings and percussion that
should be out soon.
On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Rob Theakston wrote:
that's kevin saunderson's wife, ann. i believe it is out on 430 west.
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r they like trying to make this record into this years jaguar???
Y
ps-i like the ann saunderson vocal version:)
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re: Does anyone know who's booking these guys in NYC?
Viktor Mizo and Christian Smith
Tronic Treatment parties
http://www.tronictreatment.com/proof/progress.jpg
in this link it's Vik up front and Christian in the middle at Baktun(the new
venue)...
I like the record as well, I like the vocal on it though it's not the best
vocal I've ever heard, or even that great of a vocal but it's pretty good.
As someone already said the record isn't even one of Octave One's best so
I'm not sure what the big deal is.
Is it being hyped up in Europe or
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The original of this track didn't have vocals on it and was named as The
Untold on the Black Water EP on 430 West. The other side of the EP has
tracks called Black Water and Black Waters but they are different tracks.
The version with the vocals came out on Concept/430 West, who put out the
I'm not a big fan of the vocal black water track. It doesn't sound like the
vocals were written with the track. It sounds like an add on instead of a
completely new mix.
Also,, I must say that i'm disappointed with the soundtrack to the comic
book. with a few exceptions the c.d. sounds like
This is a late reply to the thread about new CDs ...
Just wanted to mention there are reviews of the new Aardvarck album
on Delsin and Tim Koch on deFocus up on www.techno-rebels.com
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rsel wrote:
just added a mix set from the man duvante, titonton
http://www.rushhour.nl/broad.html
anybody know if there are any more/better quality encoded sets of
titonton's floating around? his sets always know my proverbial socks
off.
glyn
yeah-
titonton is one of my favorites.
and i've never heard a recording that comes close to what he can do.
both times he's played for me the dats came out fucked, and the one mix
he's given me (double edged sword) just doesn't do him justice.
On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, glyn wrote:
rsel wrote:
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