There are 2 different 3 packs of herbert's old remixes i have them both,
they are both worth the purchase.
Trevor Wilkes
inyerear.com
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Subject: [313] Herbert
I understand
Hello,
I spent an hour of my life deleting 250 posts about rich hawtin,
globalization, and final scratch this afternoon. I have met a lot of good
character and gained a lot of insight about this music for the list. Its
been 6 years now, and I think it is time for me to move on.
Current will
Unfortunately there is no better world to escape to (and if there was I dare
say we'd need rocket ships to get there!) Avoiding global capitalism is not
an option at this point in the game, those who refuse to play will probably
not survive. Therefore I see no other option than the creative
it was nice, i definitely didnt like the distorted drums, taking
those out would be nice. a sweet little dubby bassline might be
nice in there.
tom
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I have this
next on 313: Jeff Mills...Boxers or Briefs and the
colors he prefers.
;)
d
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Ohh god, NO!!!
on 6/5/02 5:20 PM, Grammenos, Peter at
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PG Also, rich is no
longer wearing black rimmed glasses, he's moved on
to the trendier
howdy peeps
anyone into the uk broken beat stuff? i have heard fragments of it and
generally find it a bit too jazz-funky for my tastes, but was kinda curious
to see if it has developed in any interesting ways...agent k LP anyone? hit
me back privately. thanx.
p-dogg
On Wednesday, June 5, 2002, at 03:34 PM, Giles Dickerson wrote:
Has anyone read the Neil Stephenson book In The Beginning Was The
Command Line?
- Giles
several times. re-read it on the way to detroit last weekend, actually.
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Greetings all...
I realize there was a thread about this a few weeks back, however...
I like what I have heard from this record (Loudboxer-speedy J)
What else would you recommend?
Thanks,
j
would really recommend all his
On Wednesday, June 5, 2002, at 01:56 PM, Jayson B. wrote:
All this adds up to me wanting a MAC version. I'll keep buying vinyl,
I love listening to it at home and almost all the music I own in on
wax, but come on, get that heavy record bag off my shoulder and I'm a
happy camper.
Nope, but I've read/own Open Sources by DiBona, Ockman, and Stone.
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given the latest traffic, this is more on-topic than you think. the uk
broken beat stuff is inclusive of a lot of different material, ranging
from ex-drum-and-bass types like Seiji (whose Opaque material and remixes
are among my favorite), house, hip-hop (IG Culture!) and yes, very
jazz-funky as
. . . maybe I can shake them inside that nebula . . .
http://www.bprince.com/ChargerC.mp3 (900kb)
[this evening's audio doodle. quick and sloppy.]
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http://www.bprince.com - art and techno
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Just curious : I know none of these two, but I loved the several Stephenson
books I've read... what do these two books talk about ? why did you mention
them in this thread ?
Gwendal
Nope, but I've read/own Open Sources by DiBona, Ockman, and Stone.
Has anyone read the Neil Stephenson book In
Ian wrote:
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Still, what's to say that techno has to have soul or funk - why can't we
have some industrial sounding stuff?
We can, but then it wouldn't be called techno.
Yeah, it would be called IDM :) Seriously, AFX, Autechre, and
I understand that there are at least 2 versions of the Secondhand Sounds
lp. Anyone have the lowdown on this?
There are two volumes of the vinyl release (available separately) simply
because there are so many tracks. The CD release is a double-CD set, the
vinyl was released in the form of two
Ive written realtime DSP software under linux and the latency is excellent
compared to windows. Obviously the latency achieved is dependant on the spec
of the system and the complexity of digital filter algo's involved. 5ms
would be fine for mixing - Ive had decks running through the DSP stuff I
yeah I heard it was gonna be shipped on a bootable cd , so presumable it
would be pretty simple for them to make it self installing etc. I take it
there will be separate mac and pc versions with powerpc / ix86 kernels ? I
cant see that being much work for them - especially if the code uses
I love all that recent Drexciya (and related) stuff. My favourite though was
the first Transllusion 12.
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harnessed the storm is
Most music stays in it's semi-closed circles. Accordian music is very
very common in a lot of Europe, especially here in Ireland, which then fed
American bluegrass/appalachian music as well as cajun/zydeco.
You always have to look for things, it can't all come to you on it's own.
quote
found this on the play-lists of kirk degiorgio's now defunct radio show.
does it really exist? anyone knows anything about it?
a
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Some of the releases on 2000 Black or Archive might have what you're looking
for ...
Artists like Nubian Mindz, Phoojun, the Avenues and Alleways 12 from
Titonton Duvante, etc. Very electronic sounding with broken beat
influences...
Also some stuff from Delsin has this kind of sound, check the
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Wednesday, June 05, 2002, 12:17:08 PM, a knob was tweaked and out came:
technology hasn't changed dick. People
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LKS how would you measure this?
BBP Average life expectancy, infant mortality rates, literacy, et cetera.
uhm...so do you believe the most country that is the most
technologically
I love how people still consider electro trendy.
Funny cos it's been looked at this way since '96 or so.
Also, how people call electro retro or 80s
but never label techno this way.
Funny, cos the root-shaping of BOTH of these subgenres took place in the
80s in one way or another.
Electriyin
On Thursday, June 6, 2002, at 02:21 AM, Langsman, Marc wrote:
yeah I heard it was gonna be shipped on a bootable cd , so presumable it
would be pretty simple for them to make it self installing etc. I take
it
there will be separate mac and pc versions with powerpc / ix86
kernels ? I
cant
this list desperately needs moderation
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anyone heard.
Viewlexx V005: V/A - We Still Kill The Old Way (Pt II The Double double Cross)
Viewlexx V006: If - Space Invaders Revenge
Viewlexx V007: CASCO - Cybernetic Love
jd
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Cant remem who recorded the party but is there any sign of the mixes / pics
on the web yet ? Ive been out of the loop for a while so Im not sure if Ive
missed a posting or anything
cheers,
Marc
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I remember back when there was the electro revival of 1995.
And then Drexciya came out with the Return of Drexciya on UR. As far as I
remember Drexciya had come out with at least one record every year since 91.
Now there's the electro revival of 2002.
But as to the trendiness of electro,
Viewlexx V005: V/A - We Still Kill The Old Way (Pt II The Double double Cross)
Best electro release in quite a while, been singing the praises of this comp
for the last month and a half. Buy it.
Viewlexx V006: If - Space Invaders Revenge Viewlexx V007: CASCO - Cybernetic
Don't know but been
anyone heard.
Viewlexx V005: V/A - We Still Kill The Old Way (Pt II The
Double double Cross)
Yeah i heard this one, two tracks are really great. There is a classic from
Alden Tyrell. I liked it a lot, better then his previous 12
Also the Duplex track is extremly deep. Not really
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I remember back when there was the electro revival of 1995.
And I can remember the electro revival of 1994, where all the StreetSounds
compilations suddenly shot up in price around London,
Hi
Keep your ears open for the new Starbaby 12 by listmember Arne Weinberg. Top
stuff, deep techno with the kind of dark brooding basslines that Carl Craig
would have been proud of. Its got a fairly good Fabrice Lig mix on there too. I
know Arne has been waiting for this to come out for an
Marc/UK-313.
Not sure about the pics but the MD's still need to be recorded and converted.
Rob's given me about 4 weeks to get them encoded, then we'll load 'em up.
Cheers,
Nic
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And I can remember the electro revival of 1994, where all
the StreetSounds
question 1 : are these comp really interesting ? what volume should I start
with ?
compilations suddenly shot up in price around London, Clair
(who worked in
Ambient Soho at the time) decided to launch the Clear label
From what I understand, this is a self moderated list. From the list
guidelines:
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Regarding Content and Community
313 content is not moderated and never will be, therefore we rely on 313 list
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Top stuff, deep techno with the kind of dark brooding basslines that Carl
Craig would have been proud of.
When did Carl die?
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Marc:
Cant remem who recorded the party but is there any sign of the mixes /
pics
on the web yet ? Ive been out of the loop for a while so Im not sure if
Ive
missed a posting or anything
then Nic:
Not sure about the pics but the MD's still need to be recorded and
converted. Rob's
let's not forget that weird mexican/polka stuff either.
now that's a genre i just can't get my head around.
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sorry David, BUT, from the very source you quote:
Do not repost private email to 313. Likewise do not reply in private email
and 'CC' 313. This is both illegal (falling under the reproduction of an
original copyrighted work without permission) and highly unethical.
Im not nitpicking, but if you
And to get this thread back on topic, it seems like Radioboy, who performed
at the planet e party, is very consciously making his performance a
commentary on the negative aspects of the corporate aspects of
globalisation. The website that goes with his CD has some very good info on
that
cool cool no probs - just wasnt sure if they been put up but Id missed the
posting :)
cheers,
Marc
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At 11:17 -0400 06-06-2002, Rob Theakston wrote:
Top stuff, deep techno with the kind of dark brooding basslines that Carl
Craig would have been proud of.
When did Carl die?
He died of laughter of reading the Carol Marvin interview i suppose :)
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Clear
I didn't know that story about how the label was founded... what is this
label's situation BTW ? as far as I know it went out of business years ago,
but some records are still available, I think I saw a new comp recently ???
Clear is definitely no longer in business (what was the comp
globalisation; on one hand, you get Starbucks, McDonalds, and other
sterile
forces
hmm burgers
hmm coffee
;)
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I love how people still consider electro trendy.
Funny cos it's been looked at this way since '96 or so.
thats what i've been thinking. actually electro never went away.. check
early UR/red planet stuff for example.
Also, how
Clear is definitely no longer in business (what was the comp
you saw?), but
I don't remember, but these were all classic Clear tracks (most of which I
already have elsewhere, so I didn't buy it); all I know is that it wasn't
everything is becoming or twisted love songs
Clair went on to start
And to get this thread back on topic, it seems like Radioboy,
who performed
at the planet e party, is very consciously making his performance a
commentary on the negative aspects of the corporate aspects of
globalisation.
I saw radioboy live for the first time at the metropolis screening in
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And I can remember the electro revival of 1994, where all
the StreetSounds
question 1 : are these comp really interesting ? what volume
should I start with ?
I would definitely advise
Vocals : Detroit , Detroit , Detroit , etc.. man's voice
Synth Line : Bubbling
Kick : 4/4
It's @ 36:40 on the shapeshifter mix -
http://www.urbansounds.com/us_current/mixes/mixes_1.html
not a bad mix btw.
Thanks,
-Pete
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can't go and listen to the mix at the moment, but from the descripiton it
sounds like The Vision - Detroit (One Circle) on Metroplex.
Sean.
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: And I can remember the electro revival of 1994, where all
: the StreetSounds
:
: question 1 : are these comp really interesting ? what volume
: should I start with ?
:
:I would definitely advise you to aim for the lower numbers rather than
:higher. From around vol 6 or so they started to go
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can't go and listen to the mix at the moment, but from the
descripiton it
sounds like The Vision - Detroit (One Circle) on Metroplex.
I just listened to the mix, and Sean is correct! Metroplex
this track is probably my favourite ever - it just doesnt get any cooler
unfortunately i dont know the name!
but its rob hood off the vision ep on metroplex
neil
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Sounds to me like a Metroplex by Rob Hood from way back. Black label, I have it
at home but can't remember the title. Anyone?
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Right ! The Vision. Exactly.
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Oh my god isn't that the sickest track !
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1980's seem to be trendy now, so all things 80's is hot.
80's style/influenced New Wave is hot
then again, techno isn't different enough from current pop/mainstream
dance to make
itself interesting. but electro is. with broken rhythms and things. and
everyone remembers breakdancing and
Could you point to where I had reposted private email to 313? Also, like wise,
I
don't remeber replying to a private email and cc'ing 313. I believe that I
replied to a posting that on the 313 list.
I don't mind being held to my point, but I don't see where that is
happening. I never
I'm one of the first people who jumped onto this thread.
When I did, I changed my subject line to OT: Globalization [was:
sumberge.panel].
In most of my posts on the subject, I have brought the thread back to
Detroit and to Detroit music.
I fail to see how this relatively novel thread - which I
Can I plug my electro mix now? :)
It's at: http://www.brelson.com/music_mx_electro2.html and features some
fairly obvious tracks - mainly made for people who are unfamiliar with the
genre, so you get Tour De France, Clear and Trans Europe Express, but
you also get Pretty Tony and Captain Rock,
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everyone remembers breakdancing and electroboogie, which leads us to
electro (nevermind rap/hip-hop,
nevermind rap/hip-hop?!
Electo *is* hip-hop! Electro, rapping, graffiti,
bodypopping/locking/rocking (usually called
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Please - if you get a chance go see the movie Scratch because
1) it's
very entertaining, 2)it's very educational, and 3) it's very
inspirational.
yes, i saw this last night and it was VERY inspirational.
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Can I plug my electro mix now? :)
It's at: http://www.brelson.com/music_mx_electro2.html and features some
fairly obvious tracks - mainly made for people who are unfamiliar
with the genre,
.. and looks like a good mix to
Sakari Karipuro wrote on Thu, 6 Jun 2002 about following:
immediately started asking for the cd-single and which shop i had bought
btw, is there cd-single of it? i've only seen the fantasy records 12
sakke
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Metamorphosis:
1. A transformation, as by magic or sorcery. 2. A marked change in a
I'm curious about that... any names to recommend ?
Everyone needs to hear the following old electro tracks:
Pretty Tony - Fix It In The Mix
Freestyle - Jam The Box
Freestyle - Don't Stop The Rock
Planet Patrol - Play At Your Own Risk
Captain Rapp - Bad Times
Garrett's Crew - Nasty Rock
Hey,
I thought this may be a good post. I was just listening to this old ass Dan
Curtin track out of sight and mind. well, that last 2 minutes or so of it
is one of the most beautiful segments of techno I have ever heard...brings
tears to my eyes sometimes...pure bliss.
There are others that do
Deepside French
Soofle How Do You Plead
Terrace Midiology
69 desire
B12 Hall Of Mirrors
Choice Acid Eiffel
and that Global Comm / Link / Reload track, the sun and the sea (le soleil
et la mer or something?)
Need any more?
:)
W
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J I thought this may be a good post. I was just listening to this old ass Dan
J Curtin track out of sight and mind. well, that last 2 minutes or so of it
J is one of the most beautiful segments of techno I have ever heard...brings
J tears to my eyes sometimes...pure bliss.
J There are others
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There are others that do it to me but I can not think of them right now.
What songs do this to you?
i'll bite
_i believe_ so soulful/touching/heartfelt/innocent
this dnb song don't know the name has a refrain of muusic is the melody,
melody of life with a guy talking in
i hate to say it, but cheeze/piano/kiddie choir hardcore/d-n-b classic the
sound of music by nookie ...
just close your eyes and dream with me /
you'll hear the sound of music /
m-ziik /
muuu-zik!
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J What songs do this to you?
Kosmic Messenger's Death March
Stasis' Space
and it's not Techno but the plaintive vocal in Joe Claussell's Je Ka Jo
always gets me all weepy;-)
Cheers,
m*
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Thursday, June 06, 2002, 2:32:35 PM, a knob was tweaked and out came:
BD i hate to say it, but cheeze/piano/kiddie choir hardcore/d-n-b classic the
BD sound of music by nookie ...
BD
BD just close your eyes and dream with me /
BD you'll hear the sound of music /
BD m-ziik /
BD
I would definitely advise you to aim for the lower numbers rather than
higher. From around vol 6 or so they started to go slightly bad, and the
latter volumes are better defined as early hip-hop than electro, imho! But
volumes 1-4, and the Crucial Electro spinoff, are well worth getting, with
For me it's Inspiration, the title track of the first Stasis album on
Peacefrog (PF028)...
shivers down my spine every time I hear it.
Cheers, Arne
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I'm going to make a mix with all these tunes listed and post it so the
whole 313 list will being crying into their keyboards ;)
MEK
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Infiniti game one
Andrea Parker Melodious Think
dbx City at the edge of forever
Moloko Sing it Back (Herbert's rmx)
word.
Trevor Wilkes
inyerear.com
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best record ever. never get bored of that tune.
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For me it's
Err, not the place really to debate this, but it depends on the technology.
Technology is a tool. You can't point to a particular technology, excepting
weapons systems that uniformlly gives advantage to the haves at the expense
of the have-nots.
I think (without having been there) that the
model 500 - mind changes
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I am willing to pay for recordings of DEMF sets.
Please reply privately. I am especially interested in
Dave Clarke, Marco Carola, Bryan Zentz, the Sonic
Groove crew tag-team set, Juan Atkins, Blake Baxter,
Deepchord, Adam X, T-1000, the Aux Men, etc.
-sam hobbs
ron trent's altered states 2x12 on djax - the whole thing
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Hey,
I thought this may be a good post. I was just
Someone at the festival I met that went to this mentioned it would be
online.
Does anyone know when/where?
Thanks,
_Pete
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emmanuel top 'lobotomie'
ow. ow. ouch.
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finally! a thread that reminds me why i became a 313 subscriber.
yennek-dancing tides
eddie fowlkes-stella[aka lodge freeway]
project 625 aka claude young-come closer
psychedelic research lab-tarenah[the version on deepest shade of techno]
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godd*mn great idea! if you it. shout it to the world.
regards,
lrh
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I'm going to
Rhythm is Rhythm --Crackdown (Carl Craig Remix)
Deep Contest -- Sunday Morning
Metro Area --Strut
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On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Rc wrote:
model 500 - mind changes
yup, that one, Galaxy 2 Galaxy's Journey of the Dragons and R Tyme's R
Theme would be mine.
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thanks for the topic jasonmuch needed ...
my tear jerkers off the top of my head.
1. Sueno Latino (derrick may rmx) on creative\
2. model 500 ocean to ocean (vocal mix)
3.Polartronics - The Deepon Transfusion
4.The Movement - Feeling of This on Transfusion
5.Artificial
Haha. I've been on this list since it started, and finally started a hot
thread! Hey, I just posted this thread like an hour ago...look at all these
responses! Keep them coming.
Alot of them are familiar to me and also favorites...especially the
soofle/choice cuts, galaxy to galaxy, the deepest
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