(313) (ot) carlos souffront booking info?

2003-02-17 Thread fortyozdrinker
would someone hook me up please? thanks in advance.

Re: (313) UR question

2003-02-17 Thread David Gillies
scotto said: > is there a discography out there that has all of the records on it? I > have been told that UR recycles there catalog numbers and am looking for > a site that uses that. I'm pretty sure this lists all the UR records, past and present. http://www.discogs.com/label/Underground_Resist

Re: (313) apparently there's been an update

2003-02-17 Thread John Harvey
Marsel - I think you should do this to your site!! how much versions are there? i refreshed and catched into four versions up till now some of the greatest web stuff to come around

(313) UR question

2003-02-17 Thread scotto
is there a discography out there that has all of the records on it? I have been told that UR recycles there catalog numbers and am looking for a site that uses that. scotto lansing, mi.

(313) liveset

2003-02-17 Thread ::\)
http://www.mpiii.com/ when it comes back up, you'll see that there is a dave clarke set up there. -Joe

RE: (313) apparently there's been an update

2003-02-17 Thread Lee Herrington IV
did he shave his eyebrows? or is that just the lighting? :-P -Original Message- From: Rob Theakston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 4:31 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) apparently there's been an update http://www.planet-e.net

Re: (313) apparently there's been an update

2003-02-17 Thread marsel
this is serious stuff! :-) how much versions are there? i refreshed and catched into four versions up till now some of the greatest web stuff to come around - Original Message - From: "Rob Theakston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:30 PM S

Re: (313) The techno/trance divide - reprise?

2003-02-17 Thread spw
Well said, Dave Clarkes live in Singapore and live in Portugal I got from his web site are still jamming in my car (I ran Windows Media Player through an Aphex Aural Exiter back into my sound card) the rumbling bass sounds awesome, the way he cuts up records works the effects. on 2/17/03 1:23 PM,

(313) apparently there's been an update

2003-02-17 Thread Rob Theakston
http://www.planet-e.net

Re: (313) The techno/trance divide - reprise?

2003-02-17 Thread g
> really an art form making a good hard techno set, and it really has to be > programmed well in order to keep things bumping without slipping into > boring. very true > BTW, I think some of Samuel L Sessions stuff sounds VERY Detroit infuenced > if you ask me, some of these tracks have little me

Re: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread spw
People in the music Industry, like dance mags, record stores ect... Also mailing list like the G-Tech list who are devoveted to the techno genre. I notice people do describe records that are often discussed on this list like Duvante & Lig Sensual 7th City or Keith Tucker Stick It In Your Ear as Det

(313) VINYL for Sale

2003-02-17 Thread Rc
apologies for the spam, but I'm selling/trading off some Detroit Techno, Bass, Electro, Afrobeat, Disco, Pre-house, Ghetto, old school house + other stuff. Check it out at: http://home.iprimus.com.au/richardcranston/ and let me know if you want anything. thanks all, Richard

(313) record reviews

2003-02-17 Thread Minto George
Hi all! gosh thought I would help out the list with a little useful post on new records I am diggin of late rather than the usual 313 debate of "what is techno?" Kaito - Special Love - Kompakt Love this little mini-LP full of beatless beauty which is very similar to DEC and E2E4. I had not heard

(313) Blake Baxter & Orlando Voorn

2003-02-17 Thread Chris Anglesey
Hello, I'm thinking of buying the following records by Blake Baxter and Orlando Voorn & was wondering if anyone could supply info on them (e.g style, would you recommend them etc.) ; BLAKE BAXTER - LA LA SONG (Tresor) -Am I right in thinking that he sampled Stevie Wonder for this one ?? BARUKA/

RE: (313) The techno/trance divide - reprise?

2003-02-17 Thread Cyborg K
I think there's a bit of difference in outlook between thoses across the Atlantic and those of us stuck in the US. In general, the hard-loop techno type sets aren't really too popular here in the states. I think perhaps those who are exposed to these sets ALL THE TIME are naturally bored of them

Re: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread Dan Sicko
And what's with all these bizarre empirical statements? By "people," do you mean "you?" I'm sure the list is well aware that the popular definition of "techno" is somewhat different than what's discussed here on any given day. I'd even wager it's *why* they're subscribed to this list. -d On

Re: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread Dan Sicko
So techno is what the market decides it is? DJ Adam Smith, take a bow. p.s. those stock lists and mailing lists (like this one) are all personal opinions -- where are the hard facts? On Monday, February 17, 2003, at 03:14 AM, spw wrote: Subscribe to the Hardwax and Sonic Groove mailing stock

Re: (313) Plug

2003-02-17 Thread dr.dog
sounds like an individual electronic creation/ modulation of syncoped patterns and looping melody-fragments - coming a long way from - africa makes sense - transmission - transition I like it > Hi folks, > > I have been making electronic music since last september.. Here is a tune > I ma

Re: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message -- From: "Fabrizio Nahum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >She even ha a Code13 tshirt in her one minute man video >(for those that dont know Code13 is a minneapolis crust band. crust is justa >another extreme form of punk music. very DIY.) are you

Re: (313) Plug

2003-02-17 Thread r3dshift
if you can't easily catagorize it, then its definately worth a listen IMO. I will reply to you with feedback this evening. thanks in advance for the music -d Hi folks, I have been making electronic music since last september.. Here is a tune I made last week. Please have a listen: http://s

(313) Plug

2003-02-17 Thread Bren
Hi folks, I have been making electronic music since last september.. Here is a tune I made last week. Please have a listen: http://stage.vitaminic.co.uk/main/brenelectric/ Any comments or constructive criticisms welcome. Its not *my* definition of techno, but it might be someone's. I don't rea

Re: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread robin pinning
> > aspects of this list make me glad that detroit techno is > dying. you can't put this in a an email moaning about flamebait... still i agree with the first part: >for the life of me, I can't understand why you'd want to >waste your time arguing about music. any music. thats >like setting 2

Re: (313) Re: first techno

2003-02-17 Thread r3dshift
who cares. are you gonna go back in time and capture it in a glass jar so you can show your mom? this sounds harsh and is, but really, what the hell does the history of techno matter??? you're looking BACK on a futuristic form of artistic expression. doesn't that seem backwards to you? where

Re: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread r3dshift
for the life of me, I can't understand why you'd want to waste your time arguing about music. any music. thats like setting 2 abstract paintings side by side and telling me "this one IS better" its all subjective, and all you do when you make opinionated comments is draw weak minded people into

(313) help! OT

2003-02-17 Thread alex . bond
Arrrgh, I know this isn't the list for this, but I ain't a member of that list. Can anyone help me with a simple soundforge problem? It's going to be easy, its just I can't see the wood for the trees if you know what I mean. It's re. sample rate (my source sample rate is higher than my desti

RE: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread Jernej Marusic
> I definitely hear a 'tek' edge to that music even though it's > very unpopular > on the 313-list. > You can also hear this production quality in the more refined > Detroit techno > that came out in > the mid 90's like Minimal Nation, Waveform Transmissions > Vol.1, or Infinity > - Game One.

Re: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread spw
on 2/17/03 6:22 AM, Klaas Jan Jongsma at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Just wondering mister SPW why the hell you are the list I have an interest in Detroit techno. > because the > only thing you try to do here is to us all we don't know sh*t about > techno and apparently you are the only one who

(313) 20 Killed at Epitome Nightclub Chicago

2003-02-17 Thread Gary . Girard
** Entertainment UK Limited Registered Office: 243 Blyth Road, Hayes, Middlesex UB3 1DN. Registered in England Numbered 409775 This e-mail is only intended for the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confiden

RE: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread Brendan Nelson
| -Original Message- | From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 17 February 2003 13:27 | > | > They are as bad as the people Steve is slagging off, | > because again they are just remaking the early Axis | > releases over and over again. | | You would categorize all the pounding loop

RE: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread Neil Wallace
: :I often wonder if the reason why Kraftwerk don't perform more new material :(I know their :capable :of better music than Expo 2000) is because their views are sidered too :facist :and controversial. :I can see them on stage with 3D computer modeled projection of a DNA :strand, :singing about :h

Re: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread John Harvey
The guy that mentioned Kenny Larkin he hasn't put out any new album in how long? I was talking about a type of music, I could have said Aril Brikha or countless others.

Re: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread spw
on 2/17/03 7:10 AM, Hans Veneman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 12:47:30PM -, Brendan Nelson wrote: >> Yeah, Steve has a point. Kraftwerk is often referred to as >> "retro-futuristic" in that their view of the future is quite an >> antiquated one. If you seriously think

RE: (313) Tektite and Mad Monkey records

2003-02-17 Thread Dennis Donohue
the other mailing list = global techno Info = http://www.hardcorps.org/gtech/info.htm -Original Message- From: Matthew MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] org [The Music Institute] (E-mail) Cc: Cyhl Subject: RE: (313) Tektite

(313) Re: first techno

2003-02-17 Thread spw
on 2/17/03 5:30 AM, Jason Brunton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm just not entirely sure what you are saying in this sentence- is it that > the "first" Techno was actually more around the time of the early Transmat > releases rather than Juan's early work as a lot of people now say? Yes. like J

(313) what is techno

2003-02-17 Thread John Harvey
Just wondering mister SPW why the hell you are the list because the only thing you try to do here is to us all we don't know sh*t about techno and apparently you are the only one who understands it all... I agree, I think some people are over-complicating things; this is a Detroit Techno list

RE: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread Brendan Nelson
| -Original Message- | From: Hans Veneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 17 February 2003 13:10 | | No, Kraftwerk's not "retro-futuristic", it's just old records you're | listening to :) Ah, but they are nowadays! You might also say that Fritz Lang's "Metropolis" is retro-futuristic th

Re: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread Sakari Karipuro
spw wrote on Mon, 17 Feb 2003 about following: > Skinny Puppy?! > In the late 80's Detroit techno and Chicago acid house sounded way more > advanced than the Wax Traxx Industrial material. > It was the way they utilized drum machines and synthesizers. and i was talking about production; check how

RE: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread Brendan Nelson
| -Original Message- | From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 17 February 2003 11:47 | | When I say retro it represent how people saw the future in | the early 80's. Yeah, Steve has a point. Kraftwerk is often referred to as "retro-futuristic" in that their view of the future is qui

Re: (313) playlists and conversations

2003-02-17 Thread Maarten Baute
Hi ao2019, > For the person giving the years on his playlists, isnt that very > fuggin geeked out? That´s me ;) I don´t really understand wich problem you could have with me placing the years of the tracks in my tracklisting. It is just for reference.. It is not like "Hey, I play a record from

(313) The techno/trance divide - reprise?

2003-02-17 Thread Brendan Nelson
A lot of this talk of Drumcode, Adam Beyer and so forth has put me in mind of when trance completely split off from techno. I remember that, for a while, the snare rolls, big breakdowns, 303 lines and druggy chords that later came to characterise trance had permeated deeply into more "pure" techno

Re: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread spw
on 2/17/03 4:35 AM, Sakari Karipuro at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > spw wrote on Mon, 17 Feb 2003 about following: > >> on 2/17/03 3:28 AM, Sakari Karipuro at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> i dunno. you have to first define what futuristic is. nevertheless, adam >>> has been doing what he's doing

(313) playlists and conversations

2003-02-17 Thread ao2019
For the person giving the years on his playlists, isnt that very fuggin geeked out? and all these techno conversation about what is techno, they all suck. Go to Submerge or something and ask mike banks.The basic fact is there is good music and bad, and acoustic music and electronic music.

Re: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread Klaas Jan Jongsma
Just wondering mister SPW why the hell you are the list because the only thing you try to do here is to us all we don't know sh*t about techno and apparently you are the only one who understands it all... On zondag, feb 16, 2003, at 23:48 Europe/Amsterdam, spw wrote: on 2/16/03 10:35 AM, Cycl

Re: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread Fabrizio Nahum
To: "spw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 12:30 PM Subject: Re: (313) Re: techno > OK dokey, > > > > > people (cultures) are no longer separated by distance because of > > technological advancements. > > Individuals may be more easily connected a

RE: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread Odeluga, Ken
"I think Ken Odeluga said something a while back to the effect that it is very easy to pick up on elements of people's personalities on the net which wouldn't normally show themselves in real life." - I don't recall saying this - but it's immaterial as I agree anyway (& I thk it's true). I wish

Re: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread Jason Brunton
OK dokey, > > people (cultures) are no longer separated by distance because of > technological advancements. Individuals may be more easily connected across the globe but it doesn't necessarily follow that those peoples' cultures are automatically more connected on a more general level or that t

Re: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread Sakari Karipuro
spw wrote on Mon, 17 Feb 2003 about following: > on 2/17/03 3:28 AM, Sakari Karipuro at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > i dunno. you have to first define what futuristic is. nevertheless, adam > > has been doing what he's doing for long time and he's in same trap - he > > doesn't evolve. > > > L

RE: (313) your monday morning experience

2003-02-17 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Maarten: >My english is not t hat good... >What do you actually want to say with this comment, Ken? Hey Maarten, Sorry, I thought you'd get it - shd have added a wink like so: ;-) (Just being ironic in view of comments here this morning decrying the lack of futuristic intent in the music we lik

Re: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread Sakari Karipuro
spw wrote on Mon, 17 Feb 2003 about following: > Hey Sakke do you keep up with the latest releases from Finland? > How's the new one on Sahko I cant find in any audio samples. > Does it sound like the older electronic stuff? hmm they have new ep out? nope, i haven't been following their releases.

RE: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread Robert Taylor
"Futuristic retro" - hahahahahahahahahaha! -Original Message- From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:25 AM To: Sakari Karipuro; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Re: techno on 2/17/03 3:28 AM, Sakari Karipuro at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i dunno. you

Re: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread spw
on 2/17/03 3:28 AM, Sakari Karipuro at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i dunno. you have to first define what futuristic is. nevertheless, adam > has been doing what he's doing for long time and he's in same trap - he > doesn't evolve. > Let's say you go back in a time portal to the year 1987 when th

Re: (313) suburban knight on p'frog + liasons dangereuses

2003-02-17 Thread Tom Churchill
Dan played for just over two hours, dropping a great range of stuff from the house-techno spectrum - including a few of the tracks he uses on his forthcoming mix CD on Logistic. Some of the tracks I recognised were the Drug Punks' 'Suck My' on Subliminal, the Derrick Carter mix of DJ Sneak's 'Fix M

RE: (313) your monday morning experience

2003-02-17 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Odeluga, Ken wrote on Mon, 17 Feb 2003 about following: > A tracklist peppered with cowardly half-techno, traitor house and > conservative onset of jazz and electro in old age! call me a traitor but it's DAMN GOOD! (just listening) sakke -- - * remixes out now * - http://www.arabuusimiehet.co

Re: (313) your monday morning experience

2003-02-17 Thread Alex Bates
could you please define 'Traitor House' ab - Original Message - From: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Maarten Baute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:02 PM Subject: RE: (313) your monday morning experience > A tracklist peppered with cowa

RE: (313) your monday morning experience

2003-02-17 Thread Odeluga, Ken
A tracklist peppered with cowardly half-techno, traitor house and conservative onset of jazz and electro in old age! >-Original Message- >From: Maarten Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:15 AM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: (313) your monday morning experi

Re: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread Sakari Karipuro
spw wrote on Mon, 17 Feb 2003 about following: > If you go back in a time machine and show someone the latest Detroit electro > record like Erzats Audio (which aspires to sound like Vince Clarke, > early DM, Yazzo) or Ghostly Int. and a techno record from the year > 2003 like the latest one from

(313) your monday morning experience

2003-02-17 Thread Maarten Baute
Hi-di-ho, a bit more on the deephouse side this one... but the sun is shining, so enjoy. kinky toys for beautiful people (tape side a) recorded by morthen kiang somewhere in maldegem (belgium) on the 16th of february 2003 01) maurizio - m05 [ m ] (´95) 02) rhythm & sound w/ tikiman - never tell

RE: (313) what is *your* definition of techno?/ (techno rant)

2003-02-17 Thread Cobert, Gwendal
> I'd say techno is Roland. Without that japanese dude who got radiation > poisoning from nagasaki there would be no 909 707 303 808 etc... ??? I'm very curious to hear that story ! (well, read it) - could you sum it up, please ? (maybe off list) Gwendal

Re: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread spw
on 2/16/03 5:47 PM, Dan Sicko at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Sunday, February 16, 2003, at 05:48 PM, spw wrote: > >> That doesn't equate to techno. > > Let's just agree to disagree. I agree to disagree with your disagreements. > I've said the word means something > different to every pers

Re: (313) suburban knight on p'frog + liasons dangereuses

2003-02-17 Thread Toby Frith
Reports of Hood being booed at the Orbit for getting too minimal are yet to be confirmed.. :) What about Mike Grant at T-Funkshun? looks like the north had it good for Detroit this weekend. *** This e-mail

RE: (313) what is *your* definition of techno?/ (techno rant)

2003-02-17 Thread Ralf Gill
I'd say techno is Roland. Without that japanese dude who got radiation poisoning from nagasaki there would be no 909 707 303 808 etc... Or maybe its just the invention of the stand alone drum machine with 16th sequencers/step times, but would the kpr77 produced that same deep rolling sound ...If wh

RE: (313) suburban knight on p'frog + liasons dangereuses

2003-02-17 Thread Odeluga, Ken
That's Dan Bell, Pennington there, Hood/Denham in Leeds on Saturday. Little reviews wd be great if poss pls. Cheers k >-Original Message- >From: ryan burns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 2:09 AM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: (313) suburban knight on p'f

Re: (313) suburban knight on p'frog + liasons dangereuses

2003-02-17 Thread ryan burns
coul you tell me more about that night. any particular tracks dan bell played you recignzed. wish i could have been there. bell has a new track on Perlon that i love. with a isolee rmx. nice! ryan burns From: Tom Churchill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Big shout to the 313ers who made it along to

Re: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread Dan Sicko
the latter. On Sunday, February 16, 2003, at 07:22 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: alright, im somewhat confused. who is not able to see past the decades old tracks? the artists themselves from detroit, or the people who claim that detroit techno is dying? i can see the latter argument, but not t

Re: (313) Re: techno

2003-02-17 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message -- From: "::\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Why can't people see past tracks (however brilliant and groundbreaking) >> that were made decades ago? >> >on my gosh, someone *else* understands :) > >:P > >right on Dan alright, im somewhat conf