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From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: (313) New Carl Craig Remix
I am glad someone has heard of them. ;)
rantNot only heard of them, but worship
he also played some keys and guitar on a couple tracks on j
dilla's welcome 2 detroit LP a couple years back. i kinda dig
that album.
tom
andythepooh.com
blindly embracing anything prolly aint the best policy. but that has
nothing to do with the fact that it's an advance. if it's not one you
choose to utilize, great. no one's saying it's a requirement.
the hardware and the skills required to dj are exactly the same -- so
how does this
On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 06:51 PM, Phonopsia wrote:
rantNot only heard of them, but worship them. The Sea and Cake are
the
best band in the world. Period. This is the truth and I am right. ;)
They share the same drummer with Tortoise. He is called John McIntyre.
He is
the best drummer
Interesting observation, I thought there may be a generational divide among
DJs on Final Scratch, but I don't think there is.
For instance, I know Kevin Saunderson uses it, and is a fan, but then Marco
Bailey is not interested.
A few months ago when Francois K was out I asked him about it and he
-Cyclone
Ps. How good are Kevin Saunderson's KS O2 on Trust The DJ and Mike Grant's
Live At Villa Rouge Pt 1? Definitely file both under 'machine music with
lottsa soul'.
I've heard the KMS TTDJ mix and it's sweet. Starts out with deep jazz-tech
of 'Gloria Muse' by Blaze but still somehow takes
Starting Where volume 1 left off, some of the lesser known cuts from darkest
deepest old school chicago
Krazy k - The Love of my Life (Missing Dog)
Joe R Lewis - Acid Falls - Target
Jackmaster Kurt - It's a Mans World - Jiszak
Best of Ron Hardy - Flashback - Streetfire
Last Generation - Feel
Something nice to look forward to (at last)
Artist:PITCH BLACK CITY FEAT. ROBERTA SWEED
Title:Runaway
Label:MAHOGANI MUSIC
Catalog #:MAHOG 003Executive Producer: Kenneth Dixon Jr. Second release
on Kenny (aka Moodymann)'s new post-KDJ imprint. The last one, by Amp Dog
Starting Where volume 1 left off, some of the lesser known cuts from darkest
deepest old school chicago
Krazy k - The Love of my Life (Missing Dog)
Joe R Lewis - Acid Falls - Target
Jackmaster Kurt - It's a Mans World - Jiszak
Best of Ron Hardy - Flashback - Streetfire
Last Generation - Feel
Starting Where volume 1 left off, some of the lesser known cuts from darkest
deepest old school chicago
Krazy k - The Love of my Life (Missing Dog)
Joe R Lewis - Acid Falls - Target
Jackmaster Kurt - It's a Mans World - Jiszak
Best of Ron Hardy - Flashback - Streetfire
Last Generation - Feel
*Turnkey, Charing Cross Road for your real specialist kit. haggle them into
the ground though.
*Tottenham Court Road - start from the Tottenham Court Road end. Go into the
first shop you see. Have a price in mind. Name it. So many of dozens (yes
dozens) of the audio shops on that road are (1)
http://bleep43.com
Had a chance to listen to this at the weekend. It just couldn't be further
from their previous stuff. If anyone heard the two tracks that were released
as a single (Myon-Neutrino and Z-Boson), well, they are easily the most
listenable of the six on there. It's like Kraftwerk's 'Radioactivity' LP
Anyone got the e-mail address for Mahogini music?
Sorry can´t help.
But did anyone hear the mahogany 002?
It was released as a promo in detroit, me remembers.
Cheers,
Maarten
I sent the 1st one about 1030...the second at 11 the 3rd at 11.30 and
then they arrived all together...
Dunno what happened
Sorry bout that
This is the 3rd time your message arrived at the list, dunno if you are
aware of that?
bye,
kj
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From: Placid
Particularly offensive when 'Pasty-White British' are busy fighting and
dieing for the current 'regime target'.
And where would Detroits musical underground be without the 'pasty-white
British scum' who worship the music? Not pressing up limited records to
sell at an inflated price in order to
Does anyone have any information on the quality/ availability of this release?
Thanks
Charlie
Also, this coming friday @ Void ( Soho, NYC )
Jake Fairly (LIVE) (Sender, Berlin)
Magda (Plus 8)
Plexus (Satellite)
Troy
-Pete
-Original Message-
From: Mark S. Krüx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 7:40 AM
To: 313
Subject: (313) Traxx/Hell/Beyer/Function in
Paul/Alex:
And where would Detroits musical underground be without the 'pasty-white
British scum' who worship the music? Not pressing up limited records to
sell at an inflated price in order to get rich quick, thats for sure.
So you're saying he has got no right to be pissed off at the
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From: Otto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 March 2003 14:40
Or if it's the politically-incorrect language: would you
rather have him
saying Tsk, tsk, you naughty people of unknown skin color
living in the
UK. You must not bootleg my records.
Maybe it
Hello,
The killer here is that it has taken years for music to pull people of all
nations together and its ignorant comments like this that help to drive us
apart real quick.
Here in Britain, just like in the US we have people of all colours and from
most countries, so unless you know what
Brendan Nelson:
Maybe it would have been good if there was no racial slur, and I would
also have been pleased not to find a joke about actually invading this
country...
Well, at least invading the UK was a joke, for the Netherlands they've
actually made it legal to invade us:
Does anyone have any information on the quality/ availability of this release?
The quality is high IMHO - it's a really nice compilation of classic mid-90s
soulful Detroit techno. And you can buy it for the bargain price of £6.80
from http://www.dollisonline.co.uk/ (it's on the second page of CD
I usually don't reply to things like this, as it just clutters up an already
cluttered list.
/disclaimer
Why are you taking offense if you didn't bootleg? It seems clear that the
comment is directed soley at the bootleggers, and not at all at Brittish
people in general.
Cheers,
Dennis
I felt offended and im neither pasty-white nor british.
i wonder how the authero fo that comment would have felt if the target of
the slur were to be non-white.
my 2 eurocent
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:53 PM
Subject:
Any nation that lets people tuck their pants into their socks has something
wrong with it :)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 March 2003 15:53
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) handbags
Pasty-White British Scum? I ain't no
i agree.
there is no place on this list for those comments. i wont be buying this
guy's records in a hurry.
ab
-Original Message-
From: Fabrizio Nahum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 2:28 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (313) handbags
I
I'm sorry you feel this way KJ. Music is a sound and can't been seen, so
hence has no colour you can like it or not.
As for Race is always an issue... I don't know what colour you are? It
makes no difference to me either it's what you've got to say and do that
interests me, not the colour
Nice to see another private message pop-up on this list, how nice of you
look better next time will you!
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From: rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 5:08 PM
To: Jongsma, K.J.
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) handbags
I'm
(too bad we can't tell 43 that the next regime target should be
all the pasty-white British scum who bootleg Detroit's musical underground
-- the ironies are just too much to take).
How does he know the bootleggers are white?? Is it because they're from
Britain?? Or is he making the
Pasty-White British Scum? I ain't no bootlegger, but that offends.
Why?
If Pasty-White British Scum would be referring to football hooligans,
would you be equally offended and defensive?
The bottom line is the 'pasty-white' part of the comment was unnecessary and
basically racist...
If
Rob wrote in response to KJ:
I'm sorry you feel this way KJ. Music is a sound and can't been seen, so
hence has no colour you can like it or not.
As for Race is always an issue... I don't know what colour you are? It
makes no difference to me either it's what you've got to say and do
I agree that pasty-white smacks of unthinking stereotyping - Dixon seems
obtusely unaware of his audience (whether he likes it or not, most of his
records are sold to white Europeans) and rather troubled that he isn't
playing records and selling records to people he feels his music is made for
-
We've all got our handbags in a twist again over this issue haven't we? We
all said we wouldn't but we've all fallen for the same ruse as last year -
someone says something controversial (to me it seems quite deliberate) and
then the bad feeling ricochets around before exhausting itself.
We all
Hi label, his words or he at least okays them - I would have thought.
-Original Message-
From: Andy Kellman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:59 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) handbags
So it has been determined that Dixon was the person who wrote the
Tom Churchill wrote on Mon, 24 Mar 2003 about following:
Does anyone have any information on the quality/ availability of this
release?
The quality is high IMHO - it's a really nice compilation of classic mid-90s
soulful Detroit techno.
yes, excellent compilation.. very nice especially
On Monday, March 24, 2003 12:05 AM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Interesting observation, I thought there may be a generational divide
among
DJs on Final Scratch, but I don't think there is.
For instance, I know Kevin Saunderson uses it, and is a fan, but then
Marco
Bailey is not interested.
A
Release date?
Something nice to look forward to (at last)
Artist:PITCH BLACK CITY FEAT. ROBERTA SWEED
Title:Runaway
Label:MAHOGANI MUSIC
Catalog #:MAHOG 003Executive Producer: Kenneth Dixon Jr. Second
release
on Kenny (aka Moodymann)'s new post-KDJ imprint.
4/25 - The Three Chairs - Moodymann, Theo Parrish, Rick Wilhite
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Just back from Miami, where I had the chance to check John and I have to say
he was more than amazing
Don't miss him if you see him billed, he gave us some incredible fun,
unforgettable for a long
Are U doing John ? Hope fine...,
So you dared to mix in a middle of your set this
Hey Cyclone,
Each time we met, you've complained about where was hip hop in D ? right ? I
put my hand on 3000 CD mag.
That's just for you...they heard you..
- Original Message -
From: Andy Kellman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:58 PM
Subject: RE: (313) handbags
It's odd to me that we can accuse him of assuming things (the race of the
bootleggers, etc), and yet the majority of this discussion has been
or if you're a bit more imaginative, you can create
carefully crafted pieces of audio, tones and whatnot, and
control them from the turntables... playing pre-written
music isnt the only use for turntables you know :)
-Joe
On Monday, March 24, 2003 12:05 AM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i'm visiting Detroit this saturday for some record shopping. can anyone tell
if if Submerge has a walk-in store? I have heard you must make an
appointment to visit there. Perhaps i am mis-informed.
peace,
lrh
damnit, that is a siick lineup.
dont forget about detroit :)
-Joe
Release date?
Eh... today?
JUNO.co.uk has some copies.
Cheers,
Maarten
Artist:PITCH BLACK CITY FEAT. ROBERTA SWEED
Title:Runaway
Label:MAHOGANI MUSIC
of course it is. the fact that this is getting so much
air is suprising to me. the fxcked up ATTITUDES of some
of the detroit producers is shocking. absolutely contrary
to what the music has come to stand for with the audience.
all the more reason to go to a show and see someone you've
never
all of this race is an issue bullshxt is just that. Race
is, and always will be as much of an issue as you make it.
I never even contemplated race and techno before I joined
this damn list. its all music, who cares what color the
artist is. I can't tell the difference by listening to it,
so who
I wasn't aware that all british were pasty white or scum...I'm a kind of
pastel beige british floater, but I haven't pressed a bootleg yet, maybe
michael jackson should have tried that instead of forking out for plastic
surgeons?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL
this guy is ignorant.
he sells a record out, its bootlegged, then he makes a blanket racist
statement while commenting on the fact that the record was bootlegged?
REPRESS IT OR SHUT THE FUNK UP.
-Joe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday,
Anyone see the newest issue of Remix magazine (Massive Attack cover)?
There are a few reactions to Chris Cowie's statements about doing away with
vinyl in favor of mp3s and Final Scratch. Not sure what issue his
statements were in - however - one letter writer was from the Detroit area
and
Before chucking mud at Dixon, and at each other,
perhaps we could have some clarification as to where
and who the statement originates from?!
The tone of the discussion on here is in part almost as
disgraceful as the statement itself - which I do consider in
fact racist.
But I don't want to jump
http://www.zerecords.com/releases/tracklist.php?id=135id_artist=38
Before chucking mud at Dixon, and at each other,
perhaps we could have some clarification
My thoughts exactly... can everyone chill out. You know how the internet is.
Unless I heard someone say something or it was a direct quote, it's all
assumptions stacked on assumptions and false
So was the handbag leather ? ;)
Just got some fresh records in the mail today:
Headman : It Rough - Chicken Lips Remix - 12. Have y'all heard this? Sounds
like a lost Traxx record updated. Nice!
Joshua : Hustlin' EP - Select. This is the first release on his new label. I
know there are some
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