I really dig it. But I am surprised that the hype kicks in now... Cee-
Lo's last albums had that potential too. Maybe it's the DangerMouse
connection. Each to his own, eh!
On 18/04/2006, at 11:17 PM, Stoddard, Kamal wrote:
ot
Gnarls barkley sucks fatty. The only good song is I try and it's
I don't think the fest should necessarily take that route, but I was
just arguing if you *wanted* to follow the latest trend, that's the
way to go. I think this year's festival is representing a certain
sound/scene, not the latest sound.
My favourite year was the Movement year probably...
On 4/18/06, chad cumby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
this is cool, but i hope they add to that lineup before july.. lots
of great musicians old and young still active in chicago who draw big
crowds. steve poindexter, hieroglyphic being, green velvet, dj funk
(!), marshall jefferson, FARLEY FUNK,
On 4/18/06, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The vibe on Gnarls is massive which intrigues me - as why now? I love
that album but I have followed everything Cee-Lo does for years. It's
very eccentric.
people think all hiphop from the south is either lil jon or outkast.
they dont know
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006, chad cumby wrote:
this could be a really great event in a nice venue, which has been
poorly used since Daley bulldozed Meigs field to build it.
I love that story!
Delia Gavin mix is great! I think the reason sweeney talks across it is so
that people can't edit it and play it out ahead of its release.
And I was always under the impression that tres demented used a 606, not an
808. Those toms are a bit of a giveaway.
Carlos de Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED]
approx time . artist . title . album or LABEL
00:00:00 . antipop consortium . we kill soap scum . arrhythmia
00:02:44 . vitalic . trahison . ok cowboy
00:07:20 . medeski martin and wood . hay hee hi ho (illyB remix) .
note bleu
00:11:17 . once11 . before the operation . smile hunter
00:18:22 .
Televised Green Smoke, yeah?
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Skickat: den 18 april 2006 16:19
Till: J.T.; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Ämne: RE: (313) new carl craig mixes/beauty room
J.T. wrote:
looking forward to hearing beauty room
Psyche - elements
And yeah, yer right about the 606 on tres demented
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And yeah, yer right about the 606 on tres demented
for the top end perc i agree. the kick could be a modded 606 i guess.
hang on, i just realised no-one cares :)
robin...
That's a ridiculous and unfair question about any early Ninties producers
from Detroit, name tracks that didn't include an 808 sound?
But okay, regarding your question:
From Beyond
It'a A Shame
Evolution
Galaxy
Static Friendly
Neurotic
Etc...
djBlkout
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-Original
But
But
I care...
From beyond is indeed an 808, excellent pick.
-Original Message-
From: dbooker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: woensdag 19 april 2006 15:33
To: 'Güclüer, Hansi'; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new carl craig mixes/beauty room
That's a ridiculous and unfair
Ok, here goes quiz fans.
Which cow's bell did Mr R.Oland sample for the cowbell on the 808???
I'll give you a clue.
this cow also featured on a famous soft cheese package.
very famous cow.
rumour has it that derrick may ran round a field after a cow with a large
boom microphone to try and
You know I talk with people who are respected artists who have been on
the mailing list, and they don't have much respect for the 'chattering
class' aspect of the 313 list. I'm not calling anyone out, I'm just
saying ...
It is really easy to criticize an organization like Paxahau for their
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: (313) C2 808 pt 2 MORE ROLAND QUESTIONS
Ok, here goes quiz fans.
Which cow's bell did Mr R.Oland sample for the cowbell on the 808???
I'll give you a clue.
this
My girl friend owns a Bull called Randoff.
She used it in a TV commercial that was only shown in Canada...
Has now't to do with 313 but there was a mention of cowsshe did has
a conversation with Carl Craig about Randoff once though, so that's a
313 connection
-Original Message-
the milka cow. easy.
neeext :D
ronny
Ok, here goes quiz fans.
Which cow's bell did Mr R.Oland sample for the cowbell on the 808???
I'll give you a clue.
this cow also featured on a famous soft cheese package.
very famous cow.
rumour has it that derrick may ran round a field after a cow
On 4/19/06, Kent Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You know I talk with people who are respected artists who have been on
the mailing list, and they don't have much respect for the 'chattering
class' aspect of the 313 list. I'm not calling anyone out, I'm just
saying ...
too bad for them if
- Original Message -
From: alex.bond
rumour has it that derrick may ran round a field after a cow with a large
boom microphone to try and sample it, with the members of YMO doing a kind
of pincer movement to capture the cow.
HOLD STILL FOR THE JAPANESE GENTLEMEN
This is
this is way too sunny. i prefer to be a black t-shirt debbie downer. i do not
have faith that the masses have good taste, they are generally followers...they
take what you give em, the more popular it is the more they believe it's good.
that beginning bit about ohh i talk to respected artists
am i the only one who would actually love to see a good chunk of the
people in the lineup?
i feel like i don't follow the correct sub sub genre of music for
this list anymore.
On Apr 19, 2006, at 10:07, Kent Williams wrote:
You know I talk with people who are respected artists who have
On 4/19/06, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
am i the only one who would actually love to see a good chunk of the
people in the lineup?
i feel like i don't follow the correct sub sub genre of music for
this list anymore.
well this is the 313 list, not the Berlin minimal list. but
On Apr 19, 2006, at 11:08, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
well this is the 313 list, not the Berlin minimal list. but what do
i know?
yeah we spend plenty of time yammering about dusty disco classics and
krautrock and kraftwerk and funk and house, none of which is detroit
techno either.
--
JT:
it is frustrating that people will write off the festival already,
and that it's not attractive to foreign visitors thus far,
but...we'll se
I was about to comment (from the pov of a european who has been
before and would like to go again) that the way the line-up has been
On 4/19/06, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
yeah we spend plenty of time yammering about dusty disco classics and
krautrock and kraftwerk and funk and house, none of which is detroit
techno either.
in general its all connected through sampling or influence. it is
313 afterall, not
On 19 Apr 2006, at 16:11, Matt Kane's Brain wrote:
On Apr 19, 2006, at 11:08, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
well this is the 313 list, not the Berlin minimal list. but what
do i know?
yeah we spend plenty of time yammering about dusty disco classics
and krautrock and kraftwerk and funk and
On 4/19/06, robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The festival should be a celebration of Detroit music shouldn't it.
Not just another generic rave?
youd be suprised at how much that idea is railed against in forums
like detroitluv or even this one, apparently. i mean if i wanted to
hear drum and
can - check
worms - check
can opener - check
I'm staying outta this one (mainly because I haven't slept all night and I
might just be hallucinating what I just read)
MEK
Matt Kane's
I was about to comment (from the pov of a european who has been
before and would like to go again) that the way the line-up has been
announced and the nature of it so far is unlikely to draw the kind of
people who'd normal stump up the 100s to come to Detroit for the
festival.
Yeah well im
-LOL
see you there matt!!
actually i wanted to reply to JT but that was last week and i didnt want to
open what appeared to be a dead thread, but now since kent gone and
resuscitated it i think i will..
first of all i totally disagree with the sub-sub genre thing.for me
the only
HEAR HEAR
- Original Message -
From: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: (313) complaining about the fuse-in line-up
On Apr 19, 2006, at 11:08, Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
Thanks, Tom, for carefully and civilly answering everything I said.
Now there are two ways to look at what Paxahau is doing. I think my
way might end up being more fun, but you have to be true to yourself.
Everything you've said is completely reasonable -- I don't even
disagree with you.
As
that is one of the most stupid things i have read on this list
fab.
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From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: (313) complaining about the fuse-in line-up
On 4/19/06, robin [EMAIL
tom you'd be complain even if the new kids on the block were going to be at the
festival and signing free autographs.
to reproduce you with computer program would simply require a couple lines of
profane code.
Thomas D. Cox wrote:
On 4/19/06, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Detroit-Berlin connection that goes back almost 20 years should go
without saying on the 313 list. It might not be to your taste -- and
face it, 90% of every techno subgenre is derivative crap. But it's
not like there's no connection.
On 4/19/06, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
LOL, do you mean the bit about Paul's girlfriend, the cow and Carl Craig?
I had to re-read that one a couple of times just to check...
I'm staying outta this one (mainly because I haven't slept all night and I
might just be hallucinating what I just read)
please stop with the personal flames -
it's getting old and boring to read
either discuss the music or take it off list
MEK
/0
Zoinks!
goes back to sleep under office desk
MEK
Dan Bean
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Well it's a great debate but, when I called to find out about the
possibility of adding a renewed Detroit classic (Label) to any kind of of
DEMF functions I was told pack it up it's too late already?
My response..but you just announced 2-3weeks ago? How could that be?
I figured they'd need
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_Electronic_Music_Festival
Now, that made me choke on my sandwich. :-)
Great point.
Chris
-Original Message-
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 7:37 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) chicago music festival
nah, what would they want with those guys?
Thank you Tom!
-Original Message-
From: fab. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 11:35 AM
To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) complaining about the fuse-in line-up
that is one of the most stupid things i have read on this list
fab.
-
first of all i totally disagree with the sub-sub genre thing.for
me
the only real discriminator for music is whether i like it or not. its
either good or bad. period.
well sure, but thats like saying nothing...
JT was talking about how a 2 hour set of non.stop minimal clicky house
Ok, it will be my final words...
I agree with the ones who whant to hear some other things than Detroit music
at Detroit festival...I think, have good music is the most important...in
all the ways...
But I seems to be logic, than a festival in Detroit brings mainly the
Detroit related
no! not at all. my trendy arse cannot wait for this!
- Original Message -
From: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
am i the only one who would actually love to see a good chunk of
the
people in the lineup?
- Original Message -
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
if i wanted to hear ubercoolische
minimal, id go to berlin.
consider yourself lucky that you have the funds and time to go to
berlin. i do not! so i will continue to welcome this trendy sh1t (as you
would call it) that i
- Original Message -
From: J.T.
it's just the way of things...everything is a derivative of something
else that was a derivative of something else, ad infinitum...
Spin Dr. Margulis:
http://www.isepp.org/Pages/San%20Jose%2004-05/MargulisSaganSJ.html
Symbiogenesis is a theory of
And finaly...I think the the wise decision this year...was to cancel the
festival and have more than a year to prepare THE next Detroit festival
(2007)...quietly, correctly ...
Amen to that Fabrice! That is EXACTLY what they should have done.
The rush to produce this is showing up more and
- Original Message -
From: skept
consider yourself lucky that you have the funds and time to go to
berlin. i do not! so i will continue to welcome this trendy sh1t (as you
would call it) that i love at a festival less than 3 hours from my home.
Coming soon to a rave near you.
For all you Londoners Those that Might Be Visiting London On that Day !
Not Long to go For this !
We are also running a 8 pounds Concession list , Which is proving
popular , for our mailinglist subscribers their friends ! .
Just email us @
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if you want to be on the
- Original Message -
From: seek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Coming soon to a rave near you.
any amount of making fun of me or whatever jaded comments you might have
do not change my opinion.
On Apr 19, 2006, at 13:58, seek wrote:
Coming soon to a rave near you.
man, would i love to be at a rave where i wasn't the only one playing
techno :(
--
matt kane's brain
http://hydrogenproject.com
aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu
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- Original Message -
From: Michael.Elliot-Knight
The rush to produce this is showing up more and more each year.
Gimme an 'R'!!! Dude, are Rush going to be there too?!
(Not surprised.)
seek
np: Bubbles + Alex Lifeson - 'Closer to the Heart'
Heads up, festival goers - this won't last long:
LAX/SAN/SJC/PDX/ABQ/AUS/OKC-DTW - $153 r/t, $189 all-in.
Must travel Tues/Wed./Sat., which is a suck festival-wise.
(Coming in, anyway. Either get there on the 1st day or
come into town a few days early.)
More info:
On 4/19/06, fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(personal jab: Tom, i bet you would still complain even if they had Theo,
Kenny, Carl Craig and Norm Tally playing for 48hrs non.stop)
if they were the only thing booked, yeah id complain!
ive seen great sets over the years in genres such as hiphop,
I'd be all about reuniting Bananarama for a closer.
On 4/19/06, Kent Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Detroit-Berlin connection that goes back almost 20 years should go
without saying on the 313 list. It might not be to your taste -- and
face it, 90% of every techno subgenre is derivative crap. But it's
not like there's no connection.
On 4/19/06, fabrice Lig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree with the ones who whant to hear some other things than Detroit music
at Detroit festival...I think, have good music is the most important...in
all the ways...
just to clarify, i have never said it should be strictly detroit
music. i
I wrote:
Heads up, festival goers - this won't last long:
LAX/SAN/SJC/PDX/ABQ/AUS/OKC-DTW - $153 r/t, $189 all-in.
Must travel Tues/Wed./Sat., which is a suck festival-wise.
(Coming in, anyway. Either get there on the 1st day or
come into town a few days early.)
More info:
yep - totally agree
the line-up as it stands right now is pretty thin - sure there's a few drum
bass artists but how about some funk, soul, jazz, spoken word,
ELECTROFUNK, experimental noise, etc.
what we have is:
Kompakt minimal
Kompakt downtempo
Kompakt ambient
and some artists that tour
On 4/19/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kompakt ambient
one thing i do have to say is that i appreciate bringing in some more
ambient kinda stuff. thats cool, and its something i cant have enough
of. but there are other good people to bring too, like louis haiman
and even some
Those are indeed Niko Marks tracks on Subject Detroit Vol. 3:
Major Artery
People Know House
Whether they will be released or not has yet to be decided.
Ahnne
http://www.7mzdt.com/subjectdetroit
www.subjectdetroit.com
-Original Message-
From: ryan burns [mailto:[EMAIL
- Original Message -
From: Michael.Elliot-Knight
the line-up as it stands right now is pretty thin - sure there's a few drum
bass artists but how about some funk, soul, jazz, spoken word,
ELECTROFUNK, experimental noise, etc.
Too late to get in touch with these folks and book a few
On 4/19/06, seek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Too late to get in touch with these folks and book a few handfuls of their
acts?:
http://www.electronicpm.co.uk/epm__djs_performers.php
sh*t, they could just book their whole roster and id be happy:
Adam X, Alden Tyrell, Alexander Robotnick, Andrea
Damn: they booked Donald, Doc and Josh; why not Tiesto?
or Bashful, Grumpy, or Sneezy.
MEK
louis already played...(and it was great!!!)
as did rush hour and clone...(and serge from clone especially was great!!)
maybe this is all jumping the gun and paxahau booked what they know best, and
the most obvious clubby stuff first, and just wanted to get a preliminary
lineup out there...aint
- Original Message -
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
http://www.electronicpm.co.uk/epm__djs_performers.php
sh*t, they could just book their whole roster and id be happy:
Freddy Fresh
===
Fresh is the word!!!
np: Accidentally Classic
- Original Message -
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
but there are other good people to bring too, like louis haiman
=
fwdthought focus area: make it so.
thats what it already looked like, 80% of those peeps have played in the
past...of course i'd love to see many again
Adam X, Alden Tyrell, Alexander Robotnick, Andrea Parker, Bass Junkie,
Clandestine, Clone Records, Damon Wild, Dan Curtin, Detroit Grand
Pubahs, Dexter, Dirt Crew, Disco D, Dj
I just want to see the rest of the line-up. I'm happy about some
of the artists (hey, i like bleepy minimal, so long as it doesn't
get too boring), less happy about others. I also want to see
some more afterparties announced! like, any chance of a UR party
this year
- Original Message -
From: Michael.Elliot-Knight
Damn: they booked Donald, Doc and Josh; why not Tiesto?
or Bashful, Grumpy, or Sneezy.
and Dasher, and Dancer, and Comet, and Cupid, and Blitzen,
and the Donner Party: they'll eat all of the hammy djs.
- Original Message -
From: J.T.
maybe this is all jumping the gun and paxahau booked what they know best, and the most obvious
clubby stuff first, and just wanted to get a preliminary lineup out there...aint over yet!
Too late: the fat lady has sung:
Well it's a great debate but,
On 4/19/06, J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
thats what it already looked like, 80% of those peeps have played in the
past...of course i'd
love to see many again
i know it has, ive seen many of those guys the only times ive seen
them at the festival.
and i missed louis' set (was it 03?)
hmm yeah well we'll see...
damon..maybe call them back and talk in a german accent...
har har
Too late: the fat lady has sung:
Well it's a great debate but, when I called to find out about the
possibility of adding a renewed Detroit classic (Label) to any kind of of
DEMF functions I was told
I've made the long journey twice but I don't really feel any
particular draw to this event to be honest- it kind of feels like
they've picked some OK and some very not OK people to play and the
Detroit to be announced people are tacked on as a necessity since
the event is held in Detroit.
Reading all of the annoying negative emails the jaded 313 lister's continue to
swamp my inbox has gotten me so annoyed. All the crap about how the line-up
would be better if... or how the festival sucks because... I think maybe they
should stop sitting behind a computer venting out their
That's the spirit, great post, Keep The Faith...
m
- Original Message -
From: Svagr, Jodie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reading all of .
I personally think that Paxahau is doing fine, and I will give them as much
support as I can. If anyone else wants to join me here, it's a great place
to
On 4/19/06, Svagr, Jodie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reading all of the annoying negative emails the jaded 313 lister's continue
to swamp my
inbox has gotten me so annoyed. All the crap about how the line-up would be
better if...
or how the festival sucks because... I think maybe they should
By the way Tom, with what you said about Detroit
i mean if i wanted to
hear drum and bass, id go to london. if i wanted to hear ubercoolische
minimal, id go to berlin. if i wanted to hear bad club music, id go to
any random club in the world. i wanna hear detroit music. thus, i
should go to
wow, that's sunshiney. good for you, altho i think taking this list that
seriously is kinda silly.
anyways, some hearsay...a friend told me mad mike told him he and a lot of more
established and accomplished detroit artists this list is supposed to be about
would not be participating if the
On 4/19/06, Svagr, Jodie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
shows how apparent it is that you grew up listening to only one aspect of the
Detroit
culture and that you very possibly have a limited knowledge of the full scope
of Detroits
music scene.
I know of at least one Detroit DnB producer that
a bit sunshiny I know... plur all the way... lol
I've heard the rumours as well, from the mouth of a few. I think that goes
back to the long-lasting divide between the rave scene and the old skool
producers that were always against the drugs. First thing they said was how
could a rave
On Wed. 19 Apr 2006 at 2:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd be all about reuniting Bananarama for a closer.
Yeah!
And then they get joined on-stage by unannounced guests New Order
as they back Siobhan Fahey on her version of She's Lost Control.
And then Kylie comes out and they all do Can't
wheres the music to jit to on this lineup?
Jit! At the DEMF? I can't remember ever hearing that except in
the tents along the walkways, in between the speedcore and
darkstep..
Anyway, Rob and me are going to set up a grandstand for an
audience outside the Paxahau office, put together a live
Its the same everywhere, difficulties often push you to make some
concession, against your will and your taste.
Ive totally no idea whats the real situation, and how Paxahau have to handle
it. But it seems that they have choosen to proceed like this.
Well, lets have a break of this blippy clicky
Nice one FH!! Thats what I'm talking about, a little creativity in your
response to the Paxahau line-up.
And as for a jit... I've only heard that term in Gettho Tech Clubs.. another
great section of Detroit music.
From: Fred Heutte [mailto:[EMAIL
Complaining all the time makes the music struggle to progress and die.
^ if it wasnt dissatisfaction that made some people change the fossilised
musical schemes (the other day) then what was it?
the problem appears when the complaining (for a reason) buy tickets and
attend something that isnt
i see people jittin every year at the festival...down in front of the main
stage and over in the house/electro tents especially.
It's wicked... Detroiter's are amazing on the dance floor.
From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 19/04/2006 23:32
To: Svagr, Jodie; Fred Heutte; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) DEMF supporters here
i see people jittin every year at the
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