Doesn't the 32 have the gains on the back so you literally have to blindly
reach behind the mixer? Completely impractical.
For fast and aggressive EQing and x/channel fading the Pioneer is far more
sturdy than AH I find. For smooth, delicate mixing the 62 wins hands down.
This is comparing a 600
Gains on the back are to stop IDIOT DJs turning them up and destroying sound
systems.
Alan Heneghan
From: Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:36:48 +1000
To: 'list 313' 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) votes
Doesn't the 32 have the gains on the back so you
Alan Heneghan wrote:
Gains on the back are to stop IDIOT DJs turning them up and destroying sound
systems.
Shame that records are pressed at different volumes then really.
It's a daft design (though I do sympathise with the thought that most
djs don't understand audio engineering).
I
i'm not an audio engineer, nor do i play one on the internet, but
wouldn't proper preamp limiting/compression solve this problem just as
well?
On 10/24/07, Alan Heneghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gains on the back are to stop IDIOT DJs turning them up and destroying sound
systems.
Alan
but does crappy sound quality destroy sound systems? i'm asking
because i don't know. anyway, most of the time the dj isn't an idiot,
it's just a matter of bad communication between the sound man and the
dj (or NO communication - how often does a sound man reside in the
venue especially if it's
You will still be sending a bad signal to the limitier = crap sound quality.
You can get the Pioneers to sound OK, if you know what you are doing and
understand gain structure.
Alan Heneghan
From: Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:27:12 -0400
To: Alan Heneghan
On 10/24/07, Alan Heneghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gains on the back are to stop IDIOT DJs turning them up and destroying sound
systems.
so people who play 70's LP cuts next to 00's 12 cuts have to pay the
price for morons? wrong answer. that mixer with the gains on the back
is the biggest
I agree with Tom on this every mixer has unnecessary features and lots
are badly laid out, gains on the back is just silly. I am still to find
the perfect mixer..
Im currently using this, vestax PMC-CX
http://www.vestax.com/v/products/mixers/pmc-cx.html
Not the best, EQ could be better and the
Mixer-snobbery is anathema to me as well Tom (even though in my case, I
do sort of like the AH's a lot, Vestax's a bit, maybe one or two other
difficult-to-afford makes as well!) But what mixer do you actually use
Tom? Curious.
-Original Message-
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL
I own a AH 62 and really like the sound of it, but find it a bit cramped
sometimes, but superb at home.
I'm also a big fan of the Formula Sound PM80 (a mixer that has been out of
production for over 10 years, very popular with sound engineers) and Ecler
SCLAT100.
Both, 19 rack mounted, super
I have got to say that the Pioneers' FX are excellent and well integrated. In
fact, their mixers which I've used are fabulous for Techno-style DJing (i.e.
heavy-handed FX EQ use). Way better than AH. I always felt that the AH
user interface affords the DJ to put too much thought into the
http://www.funktion-one.com/FF6000.htm
Al check the link, funktion 1 started re making them. The Panarama Bar
in Berlin has one I think
-Original Message-
From: Alan Heneghan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 October 2007 14:18
To: Paul Kendrick; Thomas D. Cox, Jr.;
So does Corsica Studios
-Original Message-
From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 October 2007 14:35
To: Alan Heneghan; Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) votes
http://www.funktion-one.com/FF6000.htm
Al check the link, funktion 1 started re
Really!!
Whats it like to play on?? Are the Eqs any good and are the FXs on
pointless??
-Original Message-
From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 October 2007 14:33
To: Paul Kendrick; Alan Heneghan; Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) votes
I dunno, Tristan's the person to speak to on that.
-Original Message-
From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 October 2007 14:39
To: Toby Frith; Alan Heneghan; Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) votes
Really!!
Whats it like to play on?? Are the
I have a custom made mixer forged from the steel of King Arthur's
Excalibur sword and certified awesome by Bea Arthur. Theo played on it
once at a gig we did a Burger King and it made him cry like a little
girl when he tweaked the EQs. It has patent technology AI that
predicts just how far you are
On 10/24/07, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mixer-snobbery is anathema to me as well Tom (even though in my case, I
do sort of like the AH's a lot, Vestax's a bit, maybe one or two other
difficult-to-afford makes as well!) But what mixer do you actually use
Tom? Curious.
hahaha, i use
I get to play on the 800 at our monthly and I really like, far superior to
Pioneer's previous mixers. I am not really a fan of AH stuff, it just seems
to be designed for dj's that like to slow bleed every mix and reminds me of
when this town was into prog because all the guys pushing that
On 10/24/07, Joel Gajewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PS Not to side track this thread, but does anyone else find it amusing that
all those
craptastic prog dj's jumped onto the mnml bandwagon?
i find it not surprising, all the aesthetics and style are the same:
fashion, unfunkiness, drugs,
It was at MacDonalds, by the way.
-Original Message-
From: rob theakston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 October 2007 14:44
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) votes
I have a custom made mixer forged from the steel of King Arthur's
Excalibur sword and certified awesome by Bea
HEY SHAKE WHAT KIND OF MIXER DO YOU USE?
Hey Mr. Ambient Dub Guitar Techno Guy,
Shut up. Had you asked to borrow the mixer, I gladly would have let
you. Heck, I could have made you one at the time because there was a
surplus of Unicorn's blood at the Eastern Market. But no, you were off
spatting on about some damn thing called Ableton
rob theakston wrote:
I have a custom made mixer forged from the steel of King Arthur's
Excalibur sword and certified awesome by Bea Arthur. Theo played on it
once at a gig we did a Burger King and it made him cry like a little
girl when he tweaked the EQs. It has patent technology AI that
Videos from DJ Bone's Awakenings set posted on his site: www.dj-bone.com
shameless plug: DJ BONE ... ATTACKS!!! www.7mzdt.com/subjectdetroit, just
posted a video from his recent visit in Cork (thanks Shelly) - video about
19min, 356MB - takes a while to load but worth viewing.
enjoy!
A
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 01:57:21PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
can I have your votes pls..?
Allen Heath 62
Allen Heath 92
Pioneer DJM 800
I'm impressed ppl still buy analog mixers nowadays. :-p
G
--
Guilherme Menegon Arantes, PhD São Paulo, Brasil
Played on an original UREI at a club once, but as mentioned, the lack of
EQ
was daft.
the reason that Urei didn't put EQs on their mixers until recently is
because
they made their mixers to do one thing very very well and they sound
amazing
it resulted in a very clean and uncluttered board
LOL
Welcome back Rob! You been lurking all this time?
MEK
rob theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/24/2007 08:43:41 AM:
I have a custom made mixer forged from the steel of King Arthur's
Excalibur sword and certified awesome by Bea Arthur. Theo played on it
once at a gig we did a Burger
I let my bread maker do my mixing for me.
MEK
Guilherme Menegon Arantes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/24/2007 09:49:38
AM:
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 01:57:21PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
can I have your votes pls..?
Allen Heath 62
Allen Heath 92
Pioneer DJM 800
I'm impressed
hey now,
yeah. i've been lurking. mainly i use 313 to stalk shake and pipetom.
shake stopped responding to my strip tease videos on youtube and tom
keeps returning all my flowers and candy. it's the only way i know how
to get through to them.
On 10/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ever try switching the gifts? ;-)
MEK
rob theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/24/2007 10:14:30 AM:
hey now,
yeah. i've been lurking. mainly i use 313 to stalk shake and pipetom.
shake stopped responding to my strip tease videos on youtube and tom
keeps returning all my flowers and
I've also played on a UREI back in '03 and the experience was
fantastic. Its one of the few times I raved about the mixer afterward.
I'm use to playing on mixer that was once nice but its better days
have long since past.
The funny thing about that event was that Carl Craig was running late,
so
funktion one also make some brilliant sounding speakers. cielo in new
york has a system of theirs and it is totally awe inspiring.
On 10/24/07, Paul Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.funktion-one.com/FF6000.htm
Al check the link, funktion 1 started re making them. The Panarama Bar
Formula Sound PM80
Badass mixer.
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