So hi everyone. Something I saw today astounded me. Thought maybe I could
get some good conversation going before I leave 313/734/248 for the first
time since I was a wee infant.
Are we living in a more self-serving time? I went to Comerica Park today
to see Stevie Wonder on a television perform
hey is anyone getting weird messages from motor detroit? sounds and looks
like some sort of virus to me. Anyone want to contact whoever is in charge
of the account.
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Hey all, sorry to bother you, but I am not a member of the tech-gear list,
and I want to give my good friends of 313 a chance before I waste time
with ebay.
I'm moving out of michigan in 3 weeks, and I have a bunch of quirky gear
for sale.
Linn Drum w/ midi retrofit. My first piece of gear, this
I thought it was a pacifier too, but in fact, it's a molecular D(z^2)
orbital! /chemistry geek
:D
n8
I thought one of the video images looked a lot like a morphing pacifier. It
was ironic b/c of the ravers there and the idea of having a pacification
tool that resembles a pacifier.
Tristan
What I saw of Eddie Fowlkes' set was like that too. He had a keyboardist
and a shoutouter who showed absolutely no restraint. I do not like to
see artists who I have immense respect for being upstaged to the point
where I have to leave.
On Wed, 30 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The worst
Keen observation.
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Giles Dickerson wrote:
He was in the military.
// giles
Rob Theakston wrote:
i'm surprised no one has mentioned this, but i thought one of the coolest
things AT the festival itself was Mike Grant's salute to all the veterans on
Memorial Day. i
Let there be pea-sized hail
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Hey all,
Interesting weekend.
John Acquaviva is quite a character. I thoroughly enjoyed his set except
for the parts where he played 5 horrible records in a row. Two things
though... I think Shades of Jae is probably the ONLY Detroit techno
classic that can seriously piss off a crowd. I swear
One makes cars, the other pop stars.
On Thu, 24 May 2001, xx xx wrote:
Is there any difference between Ford and MTV ?
Need your thoughts
From: Zak-a -licious!! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] Read the Carl Craig Link
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001
Speaking of Bacardi, I guess I didn't drink, or I don't recollect, but
what was the alcohol like at last years festival? Was there none at all?
Seems to me like that would be a major reason why there weren't any
incidents at last year's fest. I can't wait for drunk frat boys to be
spilling their
Don't know if that message was meant to be private, cause I haven't been
following the thread, but it's funny you mention Sense, as Mike and I are
old friends of his. Once in a while for the 6-7 years I've been on the
list, people have batted around Adam Raisbeck's name as someone to look
out
Are you replying to all on purpose?
On Thu, 3 May 2001, john arnold wrote:
Hey Matt,
#3 is the last release. #4 is new, but I don't have any white labels yet.
Just call me and I will play you the c.d. I think you live like two blocks
down the street from me. You can come by one day and
Tomorrow night (may 2)
On Wed, 2 May 2001, dj revolver wrote:
when is this? (date?)
Current Presents The Involve Records North American Tour: Detroit
Aspen(Involve Records, New Zealand) Live PA
Signer(Involve Records, New Zealand) Live PA
Isol(Involve Records, New Zealand) Live PA
No kidding. People get ulcers about music discussion. It happens
everywhere and I don't really understand it. Talking about T1000 is
boring, and trying to figure out people's rationale is boring too. What
I'd like to see is perhaps people reviewing some of these things on their
top ten lists.
1 - 8. Amnesiac - Radiohead
9. Keyboard King of Studio One - Jackie Mittoo
10. Cumbia Jazz Fusion - Charles Mingus
Everything else is just not study music.
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Rob Theakston wrote:
to get everyone off the whiny why aren't they playing posts and wasting
bandwidth. i'm
I can get you started with a few obvious ones.
I'll start with a Planet E compilation called
Elements of and experiments with sound released in
1994.
Mode Selector-F.Flowers
Fanon Flowers is still around and kicking. I'm not sure that he's based in
Detroit anymore. He used to be an Ypsi
Very excited to see him. Does he play live or dj usually? How does he
sound?
hahaha!!! awesome! I think that's the first time the 313 list has been
quoted in a Detroit paper. Too bad the quote was from a sleazy troll.
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone else read this in today's Freep?
http://www.freep.com/entertainment/index.htm
hope this link
Hi Tim, last time I checked, the only reason that someone has been
blacklisted from 313 is for posting private emails. Here's a link to a
webpage about netiquette:
http://www.rdc.com.au/Netiquette.html
On 29 Mar 2001, TIMOTHY JOHNSON wrote:
Duely noted, Ani, thanks for your politeness. Since
Fatboy Slim
I'll believe it when I see it.
Moby
Well... Moby is a techno superstar. He'll be responsible for bringing in a
much wider audience to the festival, much like the Roots and Richie Hawtin
were to do last year. I'm not going to go poison Carl Craig's cereal over
this. I'll know pretty
I'll show you proof. I've got a pic of Carl, Moby, and Diana smooching
over drinks at Legends. email me for details.
On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Andrew Wilson wrote:
:::I have VERY RELIABLE sources that have informed me of who is and isn't
:::playing this years D?EMF(as in Detroit??? Electronic
Maybe Carl will announce the lineup in alphabetical order, so then if he
says Mike Banks or Mike Ink, I'll be cheering too hard to care.
not that i'm going to the conference.
:D
n8
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, stephen wrote:
According to the DEMF website, the press conference for the artist
d. thong,
Ani is very right. The reason that people create so much mystery
behind their names is because they consciously decide to remain anonymous.
I don't know how publishing/licensings work in this case,
since I have never released a record anonymously, but I am sure that
the artists in
It's been covered about 30 times since I joined this list. I do know who
they are. I'm not getting pissed off, merely explaining to someone who is
confused as to why they would remain anonymous. Your attitude is
annoying.
On Thu, 8 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
d. thong,
Ani is very
My first trip to see how the other half lives was a lot of fun. Visiting
my brother and being a tourist and all that, so I only got to see one
313-ish related event.
I checked out Andy Weatherall and Keith Tenniswood DJ on Friday night.
Andy played some really nice banging techno, but the
Speaking of this, it kind of irks me that people maul and maim you from
the first peep, but are too afraid to even politely address people with
status who do the same kind or worse self-promotion. Things have been
good on the list for the past few weeks, so... maybe flaming you for
poops and
I got the Vladislav Delay CD on Mille Plateaux anima
Anyone have any info on this album? It's one track and 70+ minutes long.
Is it a live set?
Carl Craig will have the last laugh after the Undersea Electronic Music
Festival (with a certain duo headlining)
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was just in a chat I go in to and here was the topic:
Topic is '313@hyperreal.org seems to completely lack the ability to
I'm glad you've had fun. I'm glad I have respect for those who show respect
in the first place. I'm glad I am ignorant enough to show others that they
need more respect, despite it being all that hypocritical.
Your flames make me feel like I'm in 8th grade on BBS's listening to a
bunch of
I'm not a Ken Burns' afficianado by any means, but this sounds like a
total cop out. If Mr. Burns neglected to talk about people like Kirby
Puckett and Pete Rose in his baseball documentary, I'll give that
statement credit. If not, he's a raging hypocrite and not a historian.
n8
Ken Burns: Yes,
It also showed the fact that you and about 15 other people like to post to
313 once every 22 seconds.
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, darw_n wrote:
I like to put it in-between my peppermint jam records and my freaky chakra
stuff...
(that was a piss poor attempt to show that I don't care what's cool
Derek: send me an email.
sorry for bandwidth all others :
Well, I've picked up some records! Glory be!
I have some really fun things on the electro/new wave tip.
Has Fischerspooner been mentioned before? I finally picked up their full
length self-titled LP. They're kind of like Abba and Adult. combined with
a little more DSP idm-ish wizardry. This CD
Hey all, the music fest is less than 5 months away. I seem to recall a
mass mailing from planet e for those who wanted to perform last year.
Where do demos go to this year?
thanks
n8
Hey Dave,
OT stands for off-topic. Yes, the list is about 313 music and culture, so
313 musicmaking, and 313 musicmaking culture are going to fit in
there somewhere. However, it's off-topic and frowned upon because the
majority of list members are not musicmakers. To these people,
conversations
Who was it that was doing some sort of academic work on women making
techno? bekka?
Anywho, I came across a pretty nice site. I like the design, and it's not
perhaps as perfectly underground as humanly possible, but who cares.
They do a spot on one of my musical heros, Nicole Elmer, too.
Uh oh, Nan. Your welcome may be short lived :D
Check the archives, as we had this argument a month or two ago and it sent
everyone into massively uptight mode.
Haven't been out in a long time. Looking forward to some of the up and
coming events at motor.
I buy records and hide in my bedroom. A
Some of the places I may be attending graduate school at next year aren't
exactly places where new genres of music and style have been born.
I'm wondering if any listmembers are near:
Lawrence, KS
Hanover, NH
Seattle, WA
Athens, GA
and can tell me about the electronic music scenes there. You
Interesting and optomistic post, Stacey...
I wish I had been there to see Rob Hood, since he put on such a fantastic
show at I/o many many months back. I don't see how anyone could have such
a disdain for a techno artist doing covers. Sounds like a homage to the
things that make Mr. Hood tick,
Hey Mike,
Well.. I can certainly see people viewing it as a disappointment, but when
I bought this comp back in late 96, it became my first who's-who
names-to-faces piece of detroit techno. Sentimental value... it's got the
stars on it for sure.
At the time, the two(three) biggest detroit
It's the sound of an overused instrument being used in a really great
sounding way.
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Hugh G. Blaze wrote:
Blake Baxter's where's the love rocks hard with extremely tactful 303
usage.
What exactly is tactful 303 usage. Enlighten me.
(Not to sound curt, but, I'm
hahaha! Really though...
I agree with Mr Mike Taylor. This list starts to go down the tubes when
there's more talking about talking about music than there is talking about
music. Shut up already :
Anywho, there's some pretty fun stuff going on at Motor in the next couple
days. Rob Hood's gonna
A weird question! Have you spun out at clubs/raves/house parties? What do
your friends say when you show your skills to them? If people are giving
you enough feedback then you should already know the answer :) Pick up one
or two detroit records and try to weave them in. See what people think.
Look
Why hit ya privately? : These are legit topics! Chris Sattinger rules. I
think he's more concentrating on his IDM material nowadays. He's done a
pretty crazy release that I enjoy as Timeblind on Kit Clayton's Orthlorng
Musork (sp) label. I thought he put out something new last year around
DEMF
Ummm.. NO. It's not a good idea to put spam in the header. Because I could
put spam in my header and flood the 313 list with porn links and
information about amazon.com and everyone would be happy with me?
I'm sort of from the days of the list where I had to grudgingly accept the
occasional
you may disagree Todd, but if Mr Atkins, Mills or May posted a link to free
mp3s i do not think you would be so quick to complain.
Well, I think if Mr. Atkins posted often enough about his free mp3's or
about how his music is charting on some obscure websites/radio station,
I'd get pissed off.
Here's my idea..
http://www.bogdanraczynski.com/mp3-form.php
bogdan is a Rephlex artist. his website has a discussion board that was a
spam-fest. Ever since the mp3-links page has been made, spamola has
disappeared. this is idm territory, so if you don't care, don't blame me
if you check out
I don't get it. Lots of 4/4 techno music I'll never hear?
On Sun, 19 Nov 2000, Christian Bloch wrote:
pay atention to #7 ;)
Top 11 for week of 11/15/00
Techno
Rino Cerrone - Optical Way EP - Relentless
Karius Baktus - Bandsalat - 3D
Asem Shama - Over Fiend EP - Core
Not at all 313 related, but I've got this person's first record on
Guidance and it smokes... Weird curveballs and breakdowns, and a really
nice chicago feel. Any one heard his new one on guidance or know any other
labels he's released on?
rhymes with carcasm
On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, FRED MCMURRY wrote:
Ford owns Jaguar automobiles as well as some others (Volvo, Autin Marten,
Mazda...) but why the hell would they put a Jaguar on their Ford brand cars?
That's like putting a Rolls Royce label on a Toyota. Does it have anything
The reviewer of this says Adam Douglas only needs one reason to pick up
Reason: it looks awesome. Notice he says it LOOKS awesome. I've heard on
some of the musicmaking lists I belong to (where I know this would be more
appropriate) that Reason has been indefinately delayed.
With Reaktor, Max,
Didn't we have this thread last month and it made me want to blow my
brains out? Or was that Top ten Dj's?
On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, McCartha, Merrick wrote:
I would like to resume my techno record collection. What are the top ten
techno records in Detroit?.(According to DJs)
So basically summing up your reply to Mike, all you have to add to this
thread is belittling Mike's long, thoughtful message. Even though Mike is
offering a great deal of generalizations and minimizations, what he is
saying is a personal opinion. People seem to think you can cover all of
the bases
I finally got to hear this album in its entirety and I think it is a
fantastic piece of work. Whereas Autechre seems to put the crazy broken
beats on the forefront, and have the melodies and harmonies in the
background, Tadd seems to take the opposite approach while keeping the
emotion of
Sounds like you aren't letting someone assert their opinion. Seems like
there's a lot of that on the list today.
So sloppy in execution? what did they think it was a gymnastics meet?
Its no wonder that people like that make comments like that when they come
to events like that and expect to
Hey all, sorry to bother. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether Mr. Steve
Lammers is back from Europe. Also, I have misplaced his home phone number,
so any help on the would be appreciated.
n8
Mind you, a 707 is MIDI, which makes it a great first piece of equipment
for a techno musician to be. 606's have to worry about sync boxes, kenton,
and all that expensive add-on stuff. And yes, the 606 is more expensive
due to its better sounds, cuteness, and modifiability. The 707 couldn't
I would disagree. Experimentation does not exist.
I think this attitude is pretty harsh and stuck up. By using the same
logic, you could say that Charles Mingus isn't experimental. After all,
the double-bass had been around for centuries before him, as did the keys
and chords that he used.
this must be said...
The scenery at the Motor stage was awesome! Not only did the RenCen tower
over it from the front, but if you were up on those stairs looking at it
from the side and above, it looked like BEACH MTV!! haha!
hm... think about how much better mtv would be if d. wynn spun on the
Meighen, Kelli, Steve, or anyone that was at Foran's on Friday... Does
anyone know how to find this man? His set was excellent...
Why isn't Aphex Twin, Rob Hood, Jay Denham, Speedy J, or Carl Craig on the
bill either?
Cause you don't always get everything you want (and because there are
going to be two more demf's)
i
would like to know why jeff mills is not on the
lineup. i hope he just shows up somewhere.
This list is maintained in order to facilitate the discussion of the music
and culture that goes along with Detroit techno. Fat Boy Slim and Paul
Oakenfold stand for neither of these things so they are fair game to
flames and complaints. The discussion of this garbage is not
for the list. It'd be
Funk post-rock darlins Isotope 217 are gone too. Will there be a final
lineup posted at the show so the people don't miss anything?
get out yr pad and paper.
n8
On Thu, 25 May 2000, D Slegers wrote:
I've noticed that Laurent Garnier is now conspicuously absent from the
schedule on the DEMF
Hrm..
That's an odd sentiment. Motor isn't the only club in this town by any
means, and with the DEMF coming up, I don't see anything to complain
about.
All I know is that I'm gonna go to hart plaza, and see the man who can
make my hips and fists dance at the same time: shake!
jason b. said
Am i the only one in the 313 list ether that can't access either of these
sites yet?
n8
On Mon, 1 May 2000, Dale Lawrence wrote:
The DEMF will take place Saturday, May 27th through Monday, May 29th:
We are currently updating the website (http://www.demf.org or
http://www.demf.net) with the
Alright kids, the last two times I've seen Mike Huckaby spin, he's thrown
down this incredible jam. No vocals, it's got these crazy warped disco-ish
samples, and a synth line that arpeggiates in a shuffle-y way. The track
is all over the place, the breaks and fills in it are completely mad. Last
Can we save this for mw-raves?
Seriously, this is personal reply territory.
Then, either stay home at night and be productive, or go out dancing and
ignore the annoying people. It's part of life.
n8
On 5 Apr 2000, Rich Neal wrote:
I guess you had no quarrels about filling that venue to oh i
Happy to report the BMG/Sony release seems to have disappeared from the
stores here in NY...I've heard tell there was someone buying them all up,
presumably to burn them. Whomever he/she is...Thank You!!
Mark*
Again, if someone is actually doing this, please drag them out in to the
street
Of course the choice is clear, the Proxy event was two days ago. I
wouldn't make it a habit of dissing honest, low-key events, btw. Carlos
and Steve did a pretty fantastic job of entertaining me for 4 hours.
Or you can come to Science and hear techno.
Dez, Mike Ransom, Mike Santiago +
A few weeks ago, I had some YoungUrbanProfessional lady almost ash her
cigarette on my modified TR-606. Needless to say, she got an earful from
my girlfriend and I.
n8
Yeah, and seeing people treat thousand dollar gear like something to rest on
is s agitating. This guy started resting
In a message dated 2/25/00 8:29:00 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Lots of yum yum titles
*snip*
How about Monolake-Interstate, Planet E's-Geology, The Warp Records 10th
Anniversary comps...
some artists in this city like certain styles of their music to be
off
Oi, that's what CD-burners are for.
I like to throw Like a Tim in the stereo, get on my goat mask, and squeeze
my plastic fish while dripping a root beer float on my lady's stomach. Now
THAT'S 313
n8
yeah...but it really kills the mood when you gotta keep
getting up and flip the records ;p
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