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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Jul 6, 2004 8:31 AM
To: Ken Odeluga [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: FW: (313) Re: what's the most people are willing to pay for
rekkids?
How much will one pay for records? Depends. Lately, I have
Question. With all this talk about what you'd pay for a record, is there a
resource in print or online, like Goldmine, that would place a value? Or is
this just a totally underground territory? Where does one place $300 value
on a record in this genre?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 5 Jul
Question. With all this talk about what you'd pay for a record, is there a
resource in print or online, like Goldmine, that would place a value? Or
is
this just a totally underground territory? Where does one place $300 value
on a record in this genre?
I'm not sure there is one you know. I'd
AFAIK there isn't any Goldmine style resource for most dance music. That
still seems to be the world of Beatles, Rolling Stones, and Bob Dylan
collectors. I'm not sure if it's a question of the music being underground
as there are lots of genres that are underground but still get written up
yeah, as I've mentioned before, one of the local shops here has a fairly
good relationship with Watts distribution
Watts had a warehouse full of records and CDs that they had lost inventory
on and they were tired of paying rent on the storage space
so they sold the whole entire warehouse to
I commend your bin-digging endurance. i've found maybe two records in the
entire lot that have been worth purchasing -- 99.8% of that Watts collection is
horrid commercial dance music.
- jobot
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2004 11:31 am
a friend of mine paid $60 for model 500 'sonic sunset', but i think he got a
bargain there.
that seems a bit steep to me - I've seen it for $20
I won't pay more than US$60.00
The few that have got near that price have been:
Jesse Saunders On On (Jes Say records) 12 1984 $60.00
Cybotron Alleys of your mind (Deep Space) 7 1982 $56.00
I'm sure I've never paid more!
Rob.
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From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL
Ditto, I've seen it for about a tenner in Reckless in London gawd I
need that too!
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From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 1:16 PM
To: Aidan O'Doherty
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Re: what's the most people are willing to pay
Jesse Saunders On On (Jes Say records) 12 1984 $60.00
Cybotron Alleys of your mind (Deep Space) 7 1982 $56.00
I'm sure I've never paid more!
That was a bit unfortunate I think Rob. On On got repressed about 18
months ago (but then I guess some people do actually want originals0 and
'Alleys
Kenbut then I guess some people do actually want originals
Oh Ken Ken Ken.
Represses are for ladies.
Oh, and that Deep Space 7 is very rare! you're getting confused with
the 12...
I WANT ONE (or both)
This is hardcore vinyl fetishism here. Represses are the devils work my
friend.
Get
Its only quite recently there has been worthwhile re pressings...
Ie planet e kms transmat..
It was original or nothing..
P
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 July 2004 13:59
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Re: what's the most
Kenbut then I guess some people do actually want originals
Oh Ken Ken Ken.
Represses are for ladies.
Yeah, ok, ok, ok, I admit it! I know it's not the same! But I've gotta tell
myself it is to assuage the feeling of actually wanting the original myself!
:-)
It's good when shops 'discover' a
When fatcat 1st opened they had jus been to detroit and had nearly every
retroactive release...
A friend who worked for a uk distributor found a box of marcus mixx feat
chine - le mélange (deep rare Chicago house) which they sold to fatcat
and had 30 or so, brand new sealed copies
Also
yup, original copies of likemind 2 and 4 suddenly appeared with classic nuron
tracks, as if from another dimension, for the price of a normal 12. made me a
happy camper.
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From: Ken Odeluga [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, July 5, 2004 2:06 pm
Subject: FW: (313) Re:
HypocriteRepresses are for ladies.
Hmm.
Before Tim grasses me up (not that he ever posts I suppose)
I just remembered my last purchase from Piccadilly was a repress!
ha ha ha.
Donna Mcghee LP on Red Greg.
Being a twat is great, you lot should try it sometime.
Alex
Well represses will do if you can't get anything else a bit like
Fosters really!
The last repress I bought was Sweet Power Your Embrace by James Mason (but
who's the singer?!?) originally on Chiaroscuro, 1977. Now that's worth
having original or repressed if you ask me.
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The last repress I bought was Sweet Power Your Embrace by James Mason
(but
who's the singer?!?) originally on Chiaroscuro, 1977. Now that's worth
having original or repressed if you ask me.
Ha ha ha!
cough cough
I only bought that as well!!
I'm such a tit.
Represses are still for women
Jesse Saunders On On (Jes Say records) 12 1984 $60.00
I can understand you want to have the original 'first house' recording. Too
bad it's a crap track (IMHO).
Cheers,
Maarten
There's an interesting dichotomy going on here. On the one hand we're living in
an age where information (i.e computer generated files) is replicated a
thousand times at the click of a button, yet we are still searching for
authenticity, and prize it highly (ie originals rather than
I paid $150 for 'designer music - good girls'. I wouldn´t do it again
though. I bought a sh*tload of records for $60 each, but wouldn´t do that
agian either. I did these things in my crazy days, about one year ago ;-)
Now I refuse to pay more than $30 dollar for a 12 (and it has to be really
I've managed to convince myself that originals are usually better
pressed (ignore trax records, they don't count in this thread) and
usually have nicer artwork, sometimes have more mixes / other trax if
it's a boot not a repressing
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From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL
dichotomy
don't know what this means. (sorry)
yet we are still searching for authenticity
It's just the geek factor no? The obsessive bit in us all? (more some than
most obviously)
My record collection is pretty rubbish really, but still I spend more money
on one original record than buy say,
Ah but now Alex you're implying that there's some sort of canon that we
should all adhere to. It implies that one must have the Velvet Underground,
Captain Beefheart, Can, Suicide or all sorts of cool records that should be on
our shelves. No-one can have the ultimate music collection.
Maarten, you've just devastated a bit of musical history with a few well
armed words!!! ;-)
It is a matter of opinion though as I think you accept.
Remember also, you need to listen to such things under the right conditions
(ahem), and the right environment. Due to production values of tracks at
No-one can have the ultimate music collection.
True of course.
We can aspire to that though!
Mine is poor really, way way too many gaps.
I don't think you should have certain things - whats the point if you never
listen to them? But maybe some reference points for sure..!?
dichotomy
don't know what this means. (sorry)
it means having the bit of your brain removed that tells you it's
insane to buy an original at 4 times the price over an identical
sounding repress. (i think :) )
yet we are still searching for authenticity
It's just the geek factor no?
I've managed to convince myself that originals are usually better
pressed (ignore trax records, they don't count in this thread) and
usually have nicer artwork, sometimes have more mixes / other trax if
it's a boot not a repressing
or if they're not *technically* better pressed,
You're not wrong!! It was to buy a piece of history (of house) and not a great
track. Still, it makes me happy when I see it in my collection. I admit that
I'm an obsessive addict who needs a fix frequently to keep me happy... I'm
fairly sure I'm not the only vinyl junkie in this group... or
And at the same time where we praise artwork, gatefold LPs etc - we're lapping
up faceless mp3 files.
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From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 July 2004 14:56
To: placid; Toby Frith; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Re: what's the most people are
y'know it's just the music i'm interested in really. i know alex
will
find this to be heresy but as long as it sounds the same i don't care.
i second that. represses, originals ... it's the music that matters to me. my
own only grumble would be bad represses with rubbish sound quality.
And at the same time where we praise artwork, gatefold LPs etc - we're
lapping up faceless mp3 files.
hmmm kind of...in fact this is the biggest barrier to acceptance of DLs
as a way of delivering music, isn't it?
or is it an old-fart thing to want packaging? apparantly the 'kids'
don't
well look at dance music. Thousands upon thousands of records all released in
faceless black sleeves. It started 20 years ago !
Interesting point about file retention. I read somewhere that a lot of cheaper
CD-Rs only last for about 2 - 3 years before the quality slowly disintegrates.
Not sure
I'm not sure of the media deteriorating per se, but I will give a short
description of popular methods of CD-R and CD-RW techniques. Basically,
we're dealing with teh same sort of principle as vinyl, accept the laser
in a CD player or CD rom is reflected off of the reflective material in
the CD
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