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>Subject: RE: [313] demf website
>Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 5:06 PM
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> It also helps that he is one of the hardest workers in Detroit.
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Subject: RE: [313] demf website
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 22:21:19 -0700
i'll answer this one!
> ability to market himself and his music FAR surpases anyone
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how do *you* know the reason why he is popular is becaus
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> am 30.04.2002 0:47 Uhr schrieb Jayson B. unter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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> > ability to market himself and his music FAR surpases anyone else
- the information in the pictures on the DEMF-page is currently
transporting
the same conclusion -
and this is wrong information - this is what I was saying
what makes this information wrong? what "facts" do you have to support that
it is wrong?
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Actually-
from issues 25-90, Urb featured minority artist (mostly black) on 33 out
of 65 covers. That's over 50%
you can see them at www.urb.com /click: back issues
ironically, according the the US census burea, 75% of the population is
white.
and richie's only been on the cover once.
> how do *you* know the reason why he is popular is because he's white?
>
No, he´s not popular, because of that -
Mr Hawtin deserves some respect for his work, for sure
But others do deserve the same respect -
so we should take care that no one is KING of
the tendency to lift Richie so
how do *you* know the reason why he is popular is because he's white?
because we take the time to think/study the world at a level that goes beyond
the superficial...because we look at the world with a critical eye..because we
care enough about humanity to study/learn/understand concepts of i
die, thread, die. dead. done.
> why is he the most popular dj on the world ?
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Record Labels handle the marketing. Maybe it's just how NovaMute handles
this artist that you like better than others?
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am 30.04.2002 0:47 Uhr schrieb Jayson B. unter
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> ability to market himself and his music FAR surpases anyone else in
detroit.
ve
am 30.04.2002 0:47 Uhr schrieb Jayson B. unter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> ability to market himself and his music FAR surpases anyone else in
detroit.
very interesting -
how do you know that ?
what are your facts, making you say this ?
why is it that when someone asks you a question, that yo
am 30.04.2002 0:47 Uhr schrieb Jayson B. unter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> ability to market himself and his music FAR surpases anyone else in detroit.
very interesting -
how do you know that ?
what are your facts, making you say this ?
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why is he the most popular dj on the world ?
> --someone wrote:
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> because he is the most popular techno dj in the world.
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> --someone wrote:
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>> so again we need to enter the question:
>>
>> why is he on so many photos ?
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>>
>>>
>>>
5 out of the 6 pics of dj's on the website a
because he is the most popular techno dj in the world.
--someone wrote:
> so again we need to enter the question:
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> why is he on so many photos ?
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> >> 5 out of the 6 pics of dj's on the website are of richie
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> >>
> >> whitewashing at it's finest
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> >> *angry beyond
Yes, Richie Hatwin is a serious good artist,
but why is he the "far more popular" one ?
because he's far more accessable, along with his music. because his
ability to market himself and his music FAR surpases anyone else in detroit.
That point in itself is extremely difficult to dispute.
oh- i COMPLETELY agree that there should be other artists photos on the
site.
i found it thoroughly pathetic that PCM used photos of artist who have
publicly dismissed them (Hawtin and May)
but i sensed this thread going into another black/white debate, which i
don't think anyone is in the mood
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Subject: Re: [313] demf website
that´s all fine with me,
though I couldn´t flip as you do bout certain "coca cola"-aspects -
still the question was: "why is he the MORE popular" ?
many of the things you mentioned would fit
to many different individual Detroit artists -
the way you pronounced it also gives me the impression
1. Richie Hawtin is more popular because he's a marketing genius.
2. The Plastikman logo is an icon. Just like Coca-Cola logo.
3. He ran an extremely successful recordlabel (+8) that didn't limit
itself to strictly Detroit, therefore it had more sucess outside of Detroit.
4. Spaztik is perhaps
Yes, Richie Hatwin is a serious good artist,
but why is he the "far more popular" one ?
because he´s "the best" ?
do you believe in "the best" ?
is it possible he´s "far more popular",
because he also is on so many photos, jpgs, maybe ?
so again we need to enter the question:
why is he on so
5 out of the 6 pics of dj's on the website are of richie
whitewashing at it's finest
*angry beyond measure*
if it was 5 different white artists, then maybe i can understand. But if
all five are of Richie, then i don't think this is whitewashing in the
SLIGHTEST. Say what you want, b
beyond whitewashing, hawtin was the first artist to publicly chastise PCM
after carl craig's firing.
yet they continue to trade on his image.
talk about a lack of self-respect on PCM's part.
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> 5 out of the 6 pics of dj's on the website are of r
now now ... it seems obvious to me that they had pictures left from
last year. I'm assuming Derrick asked to have his pictures taken down.
I don't think there's a conspiracy amid the JPEGs. ;)
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5 out of the 6 pics of dj's on the website
yeah, the mirror-image for the middleclass
... oops I did it again
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> 5 out of the 6 pics of dj's on the website are of richie
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> whitewashing at it's finest
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> *angry beyond measure*
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> -k
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5 out of the 6 pics of dj's on the website are of richie
whitewashing at it's finest
*angry beyond measure*
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mMmmm, not workin either..
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From: DJ HEAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: DETROIT <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: [313] demf website
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 05:49:59 -0700 (PDT)
can anyone help me find the demf website? www.demf.org
is not working is this th
can anyone help me find the demf website? www.demf.org
is not working is this the right site?
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Dave Barnett wrote:
> who is responsible for the DMEF web site?, i would like to know detailed
> information about who was at this years event, plenty of photos of the
> 'large' crowd that attended
I can't seem to get through to the DEMF site itself, both demf.net and
demf.org appear to be down
i think it is fair to post the address of your mp3's in your sig file
instead of straight up ads, the signal to noise ratio (pun intended) these
days is mostly off topic re-reposts/ads/etc..
who is responsible for the DMEF web site?, i would like to know detailed
information about who was at this
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