tter
still they can just tell you to f**k off and don't use their stuff for
sampling.
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From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2005 02:01
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) virtual sex lp repressed! ACTUALLY IT'S B
-- Original Message --
From: "Melody Ng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>For a royalty system for sampling - it's the same as any other way of
>doing licences - you go to the person who wrote the track and ask for
>permission to use it.
i remember reading an article
Who ever is bootlegging these Buzz records should be strung up by their
b*lls once for bootlegging it, and then again for the crap quality of the
pressings.
yeah shady people. especially for the fact that they have the sleeve,
centre labels etc all made to look legit.
the pressing however i
been guilty of copyright infringement personally but I won't try to
justify it by saying is should be available because people want it.
MG
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From: David Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 12:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
copyright is whether a identifiable part of it has been
reproduced. It could be just one sound (I covered this b4 in another
email to 313).
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From: David Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 4 June 2005 09:20
To: Stoddard, Kamal; 313
Subject: Re: (313) virtu
David P wrote:I wouldn't buy them -
but I would not hesitate to illegally record a copy if a friend had an
original."
Yeah me either David I guess.
>But what I want to know is, why is it okay for Theo Parrish to do
>bootlegs, but not for someone to boot Buzz compilations???
Well, as Tom mentions
nt an explanation, i think you
still got some of last weekend in your system !
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From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Jun 4, 2005 12:25 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) virtual sex lp repressed! ACTUALLY IT'S BEEN BOOTLE
- Original Message --
From: robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>a bit strongly put tom but i think you'd be hard pressed to find
>anyone, who buys the kind of music we do, that hasn't *ever*
bought a
>bootleg. (as well as copying the occasional cd, tape etc etc.
ce of ugly edits...or understand it...
-Original Message-
From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Jun 4, 2005 10:52 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) virtual sex lp repressed! ACTUALLY IT'S BEEN
BOOTLEGGED,BURN THE BOOTLEGGERS
i know for a fact that pe
; tracks is
>> fine by me - but blatantly ripping off the artwork or label is
>> wrong. The
>> 'new' pheerce citi 004 which htfr have been selling on their site
>> is one of
>> the examples where bootlegging has gone to new extremes -
putting out
>&g
a bit strongly put tom but i think you'd be hard pressed to find
anyone, who buys the kind of music we do, that hasn't *ever* bought a
bootleg. (as well as copying the occasional cd, tape etc etc.
everyone's done it.)
when you look at the situation without trying to find a side to sit on
it
ork or label is
>> wrong. The
>> 'new' pheerce citi 004 which htfr have been selling on their site
>> is one of
>> the examples where bootlegging has gone to new extremes -
putting out
>> releases on labels that dont even exist.
>>
>>
>>
>&
ls that don’t even exist.
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From: z66 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 June 2005 03:05
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) virtual sex lp repressed! ACTUALLY IT'S BEEN
BOOTLEGGED,BURN THE BOOTLEGGERS
different musik, different qualities..
well, at leas
that don’t even exist.
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From: z66 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 June 2005 03:05
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) virtual sex lp repressed! ACTUALLY IT'S BEEN
BOOTLEGGED,BURN THE BOOTLEGGERS
different musik, different qualities..
well, at least
different musik, different qualities..
well, at least it makes these producers even with other producers of
today [who might not been around that time]. in any case, i'm still
being amazed, how much of good musik is being released every year.. just
like others, i use labels and names as a ref
-- Original Message --
From: z66 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>..and maybe they want *you* to move forward too:: to catch more new
>musik rather than being stick to your defined classics
if thats the case, maybe they should work on making better new music!
tom
J.T. wrote:
maybe they arent interested in spending their time re-releasing tracks they did
a dozen years and feel they've moved beyond, whatever their reason, it's their
prerogative and they dont even need any excuse or reason.
..and maybe they want *you* to move forward too:: to catch m
-- Original Message --
From: David Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>But what I want to know is, why is it okay for Theo Parrish to do
>bootlegs, but not for someone to boot Buzz compilations???
the only real argument i can make for why i find edits to be okay
i
Actually, it's funny but it is totally legal to COVER any tune you
want. You just have to pay royalties for each copy sold (and I assume
nothing if it is just for personal use). So if you are a good producer
you could quite possibly recreate a very close approximation of the
track you want.
classic cars are "bootlegged"
> by companies other than the ones who made them, except theyre
> called "kits". you can build any of those classic joints on
> easy and cheap to find frames for mere fractions of what an
> original in mint condition would cost you. again, there is
> demand, some
> your comparison is so flawed.
Totally flawed and absurd.
I was just bugging on the logic Tom. Cause the sense of entitlement to someone
else's prop is just as absurd to me (living around too many bassheads coming
up, nahmeen? Gotta watch yo shxt).
Personally speaking (and being serious thi
well how about this
there's these dope tracks by this guy in atlanta, men with no bones.
i want them on vinyl but he doesnt even want to release them.
well he BETTER!! else i am just going to bootleg them. i mean now he's got fair
warning so he's just plain STUPID if he doesnt put them out, knowin
-- Original Message --
From: "Stoddard, Kamal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cause see, I've got an overwhelming demand (complete with
signed medical affidavit) for a black on chrome 67 toronado on
diamond studded dubbs. I fully expect everyone within reach of a
cl
>oh well, there
> was demand, so of course someone has to step in and supply
I'm feeling this tho.
Cause see, I've got an overwhelming demand (complete with signed medical
affidavit) for a black on chrome 67 toronado on diamond studded dubbs. I fully
expect everyone within reach of a classi
>well. these mofos are not broke. there's no excuse for people to
not be repressing things that are in demand. they have to realise
what the other option is. if not, theyre stupid as well as rich.
ITS THEIR MUSIC ITS THEIR MONEY THEY OWE YOU NOTHING
it means a whole lot more to them than it does
copyright infringement personally but I won't try to
justify it by saying is should be available because people want it.
MG
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From: David Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 12:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re:
-- Original Message --
From: "Svagr, Jodie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Kinda pissed me off... it may seem to an outsider that the peeps
from Detroit are rolling in Dough, but in reality they don't have
cash flowing out of their pockets... Detroit's the slowest eco
Okay, I feel like playing the devil's advocate here, and I'd argue that
what your point misses is that information is not "property" in the
traditional sense of a car or house... Some people would argue that it
is in the nature of information that it will spread despite whatever
legislative lim
re...
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 June 2005 15:20
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) virtual sex lp repressed! ACTUALLY IT'S BEEN
BOOTLEGGED, BURN THE BOOTLEGGERS
This is consumerism gone mad!
Just because someone has an
This is consumerism gone mad!
Just because someone has an item you want doesn't mean that you have
the automatic right to buy it. They might not want to sell it, and
since it's their property it's entirely up to them. That doesn't
justify a bootlegger stealing it from them.
I'm going to soun
ex lp repressed! ACTUALLY IT'S BEEN
BOOTLEGGED, BURN THE BOOTLEGGERS
How come Carl Craig's name pops up all the time.. i thought he was just
an artist on it.or does he have the rights to it...it's not as if it was
on retroactive or anything..
p
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
&g
How come Carl Craig's name pops up all the time.. i thought he was just
an artist on it.or does he have the rights to it...it's not as if it was
on retroactive or anything..
p
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, now I'm offended!
no offence meant Simon, sorry! twas just a lil joke. in a wa
It's strange the weird intellectual convolutions people will get into in
trying to justify the fundamentally unjustifiable, isn't it?
K
Simon Vrebos:
Ok, now I'm offended! I buy almost every bloody record that Carl Craig
produces so my money is definitely going into his pockets!!!
But if someo
>Ok, now I'm offended!
no offence meant Simon, sorry! twas just a lil joke. in a way. or was it
serious? who knows? however, I certainly didn't mean to offend you.
err, anyway, yeah, on with the discussion.
_
- En
Alex Bond: "you're taking the beans off carl craigs kids toast innit."
Ok, now I'm offended! I buy almost every bloody record that Carl Craig produces
so my money is definitely going into his pockets!!!
But if someone bootlegs the Virtual Sex lp it's because no one else thought of
it before. Co
use of
the samll amount they would get back if they won...
But not 100% on that
-Original Message-
From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 June 2005 10:41
To: Placid; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313
Subject: RE: (313) virtual sex lp repressed! ACTUALLY IT'S BEEN
BOOTLEGGED, BURN THE BOOTLEGGER
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
yes, they seem aware
hence the Planet E Classics series
and Landcruising is being re-released as well..
for other reasons as well of course, but I think the bootleg thing has
fired this up
in a way a kinda strange, if you don't repress them yourself, someone
else wil
: 03 June 2005 10:44
To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) virtual sex lp repressed! ACTUALLY IT'S BEEN
BOOTLEGGED, BURN THE BOOTLEGGERS
yes, they seem aware
hence the Planet E Classics series
and Landcruising is being re-released as well..
for other reasons as well of course,
but I think the bo
June 2005 10:41
To: Placid; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313
Subject: RE: (313) virtual sex lp repressed! ACTUALLY IT'S BEEN
BOOTLEGGED, BURN THE BOOTLEGGERS
So the next question is are the artists doing anything about it? Does
anyone know?
Ken Odeluga
Copy Editor, Markets - Market Talk
Dow Jones Ne
yes, they seem aware
hence the Planet E Classics series
and Landcruising is being re-released as well..
for other reasons as well of course,
but I think the bootleg thing has fired this up
in a way a kinda strange,
if you don't repress them yourself,
someone else will do it illegally for y
]
Sent: 03 June 2005 10:36
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313
Subject: Re: (313) virtual sex lp repressed! ACTUALLY IT'S BEEN
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as they seem to be bootlegging every rare detroit track under the sun,
and even inventing new titles aswell..it is an educated guess that i
>as they seem to be bootlegging every rare detroit track under the sun,
>and even inventing new titles aswell..it is an educated guess that it
>is the oily weasels from brum behind it.
Yep.
And they aint stopping either are they.
you know why? cos people buy them. STOP BUYING THEM>
p.s. FLAMET
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From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 June 2005 10:34
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) virtual sex lp repressed! ACTUALLY IT'S BEEN
BOOTLEGGED, BURN THE BOOTLEGGERS
OK Alex you name them instead ..hahhaha.
HTFR a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is the Buzz series of represses a bootlegging operation or not?
looks like it to me.
*puts 50 pound on the nose for it to turn out to be HTFR from Birmingham*
the snidey, thieving, even making a bad job of it, brummy fools.
come on, these are AWFUL. Scanned in sleev
as they seem to be bootlegging every rare detroit track under the sun,
and even inventing new titles aswell..it is an educated guess that it
is the oily weasels from brum behind it.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is the Buzz series of represses a bootlegging operation or not?
looks like i
OK Alex you name them instead ..hahhaha.
HTFR are 100% wanking scum
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 June 2005 10:31
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) virtual sex lp repressed! ACTUALLY IT'S BEEN
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:24 AM
Subject: RE: (313) virtual sex lp repressed! ACTUALLY IT'S BEEN
BOOTLEGGED,
BURN THE BOOTLEGGERS
OK, wtf, now I'm very confused and a bit annoyed.
Please, anyone who has got definitive info or even just a st
>Is the Buzz series of represses a bootlegging operation or not?
looks like it to me.
*puts 50 pound on the nose for it to turn out to be HTFR from Birmingham*
the snidey, thieving, even making a bad job of it, brummy fools.
come on, these are AWFUL. Scanned in sleeves, poor quality pressings.
perreal.org>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:24 AM
Subject: RE: (313) virtual sex lp repressed! ACTUALLY IT'S BEEN BOOTLEGGED,
BURN THE BOOTLEGGERS
OK, wtf, now I'm very confused and a bit annoyed.
Please, anyone who has got definitive info or even just a steer please
speak
7842 9297
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Sent: 03 June 2005 09:48
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very much so
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