Oh yeah, i love the axis, i think it is old stuff from the master.
And as for the arpanet, heard it , and love it...
Haven't found a place that sells it yet though :(
I've heard the arpanet album as well, listening to it right now actually
And i think it's really a step further in the
It only has that nasty 'leeking' broom sound of noise in the back
which I thought was coming from my mixer.
Anyway I'm listening now for the first time
and I think It could be recorded before vol 1
or recorded elsewhere then vol 1
I still looking for some pushy/rolling basslines but they aren't
...and on the subject of Detroit techno, my copy of Every Dog Has
It's Day
Vol 3 arrived today. i've only played it the once, but i've gotta
say it's
the best thing i've heard from Mills on Axis in feckin ages...
and i dont know if you guys will agree, but this 3° vol. is much
closer to
henrique casanova:
and i dont know if you guys will agree, but this 3° vol. is much
closer to techno then the other two(thank god!!). at least in the
drums..
i don't know that i feel quite right saying one record is more techno than
another. to me, techno is *so* much more than just the
ahhh words that speak sense..
finally the 313 gets back to basics..
well done Jason!
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From: Jason Donnelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 March 2002 15:55
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] every dog vol 3
now available at bent crayon:
MILLSART: Every Dog
I paid £22
It's top notch though.
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From: Jason Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:55 PM
Subject: [313] every dog vol 3
now available at bent crayon:
MILLSART: Every Dog Has Its Day Vol. 3 2x12 (AXIS). In time, all
Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers
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£23 for this double-pack in Manchester.
That's an outrage in my opinion.
I mean, some of the import 12's are £8.99 which is bad enough, but this is
£11.50 per twelve.
Someone is taking
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| I just can't see a reason for it, can anyone else?
Well, the only reason I can think of is that a limited run results in a
larger overhead per copy pressed - especially if there's
that's ($16.99) the price in usa. obviously by the time it's shipped
over the uk distributors need their profit and us shops need ours.
we're selling them at £19.99 if anyone still needs a copy.
we're probably joint cheapest in uk as usual.
£8.95 for imports in manchester? come to leeds it's
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From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 6:48 AM
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Wrong. The music gets mentioned almost in every posting; the general
consensus is that the music could stand tall, footnotes or not ... you have
a nice
At 08:04 AM 1/10/02 +, you wrote:
no, i think you're right Steve - a bunch of posts about the sleeve notes
on Every Dog Vol 3, and (unless i've missed something) there's been nothing
about the music on that particular record just yet...
Most likely due to the fact that it isn't out yet...
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At 08:04 AM 1/10/02 +, you wrote:
no, i think you're right Steve - a bunch of posts about the sleeve notes
on Every Dog Vol 3, and (unless i've missed something) there's
been nothing
about the music on that particular record just yet...
Most likely due to the fact
Ken Odeluga:
ok - can I just ask about the cd of the same name (on Music Man): Every
Dog
... ... Is that anything to do with vol 3 or am I hopelessly behind the
times? ...
i think the cd includes tracks from Vol1 and Vol2 (both of which are limited
vinyl doublepacks on Axis).
rob
Otto:
Most likely due to the fact that it isn't out yet...
(the original post started with a quote from the Bent Crayon mailout, where
you could only pre-order it since it isn't released yet)
yeah, i realise that. so, for arguments sake, has anyone actually heard it,
or are we stuck with
btw, imho it seems like Mills writes his sleevenotes in German or perhaps
French and then uses Babelfish to translate them into English. anyone
else
think this is likely?
Maybe that´s the reason why I do understand it :D
but more serious also to Stephen -
(with most respect 4 your
That Mills stuff sounds like classic jive-nonsense talk. I think
it's actually supposed to be funny; if you read it aloud it has
that kind of swing rhythm...
I don't think he is going for the Serious Jazz mode, or else he
*should* hire you to do the liner notes!
Just think, you could be the
I haven't really looked at this topic as it looked a bit too active but,
would this be a good time to ask whether anybody liked Mills' Mono?
That was his piece of art; I saw it at Sonar 2001.
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fuck.. what's going on with this list these days?...
is anybody going to comment on how the record sounds - or are you all happy
debating how good/bad the sleeve notes are?.. two digests full of this shit
about the sleeve notes and nobody has said anything about the record..
i'm right here
Makes no sense whatsoever.
Unfortunately Mills influenced a whole generation of producers to put this
sort of gibberish on the back of their album sleeves.
Jason Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/01/2002 11:26:30 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
cc:
Subject: [313] every dog vol 3
on the most
Makes no sense whatsoever.
i thought that, but then i thought maybe it was a zen trick to empty your
mind.
Unfortunately Mills influenced a whole generation of producers to put this
sort of gibberish on the back of their album sleeves.
what would you rather be written?
hmm i think we
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Makes no sense whatsoever.
i thought that, but then i thought maybe it was a zen trick to empty your
mind.
Unfortunately Mills influenced a whole
: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:33 AM
To: Jason Donnelly
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] every dog vol 3
Makes no sense whatsoever.
Unfortunately Mills influenced a whole generation of producers to put this
sort of gibberish on the back of their album sleeves.
Jason Donnelly [EMAIL
Here's one I'll never forget: Blake Baxter presents '313' (Tresor, '96)
Detroit as a city is a forgotten place but it can develop a new urban
role... (or very close).
That's Detroit as a city mind, not as a pumpkin.
not as a state of mind? :)
robin...
Very good.
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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:58 AM
To: Odeluga, Ken
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Here's one I'll never forget: Blake Baxter presents '313' (Tresor, '96)
Detroit as a city
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Yes, I think that we have been here before.
Am I the only one who gets slightly irritated by people thanking God for
their musical abilities? It's completely unnecessary. Besides, what the
lord giveth, the lord taketh away
Well, since others are throwing around their opinions about this, I guess I'll
toss mine out there. I enjoy writings like this. The concept of time and its
existence have perplexed intelligent minds for forever (if forever exists).
Without time there is no forever and with forever there is
The grammar isn't to the point where it bothers me.I'd have to read it
directly from the record and not Jason's retyping it to actually analyze it
though. Maybe Jeff should hire an editor to fend off grammatical analysts! ;)
On Tue, 08 January 2002, robin pinning wrote:
Well, since
as just that.
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The grammar isn't to the point where it bothers me.I'd have to
read it directly from
... The Everydog Has It's Day CD edition out on Musicman last year was a
different item?
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From: Jason Donnelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:42 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] every dog vol 3
meant to say before everyone on the
The grammar is not the point at all ... (but it is just as bad in the
origianl notes as in the transcript, I'm afraid) The point is whether we
really think Jeff is adding a great deal to the history of Western
philosophy with all this?
hmm, does that matter? the text JM provides is surely
On Tue, 08 January 2002, Odeluga, Ken wrote:
... but at the end of the day (upon
which a dog will have his) facile, primary school sentiments are easily
recognisable as just that.
Whoops! Recognizable. ;)
So the point is, that whoever recognizes Jeff's discussion topics are smarter
than
hmm, does that matter? the text JM provides is surely just setting the
stage for the music to follow. to get you in the right frame of mind to
get (grok) what JM wants you to take from the music.
robin...
I agree whole-heartedly! The text is there to try to get the listener into the
same
I've actually been thinking about offering my services as a liner notes
writer to detroit influenced artists. Taking the liner notes from EVERY
DOG HAS ITS DAY away from the context of the album makes it even more
apparent that techno artists need real writers if they are serious about
taking
time exists to organise the universe's knowlege
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Data: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 11:26:30 +
Assunto : [313] every dog vol 3
on the most recent Bent Crayon mailout:
So what can we expect? Another 2 slabs of old, dusty tracks?
W
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From: Jason Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:26 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org at INET-1
Subject: [313] every dog vol 3
on the most recent Bent Crayon mailout:
that they
would be able to string a few sentences together themselves.
Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/01/2002 04:03:44 PM
To: Jason Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] every dog vol 3
I've actually been thinking about offering my services as a liner
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think that musicians need writers to transform their work into
something that is more meaningful. Most music is equivocal, and it is this
that has imbued it with so much power and meaning throughout history. If an
artist wants some sort of
what´s the problem ?
interesting thoughts - written in a simple understandable way -
don´t know if someone else would write down those thoughts -
language will be moving along and the advanced definitions of how people
should communicate - seperating the classes will be gone tommorow
so
Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/01/2002 04:26:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [313] every dog vol 3
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think that musicians need writers to transform their work into
something that is more meaningful
...be they heartfelt,
insightful, tongue-in-cheek or just plain pretentious rubbish.
Its always intriguing at the very least.
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Subject: Re: [313] every dog vol 3
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 08:30:30 -0800
Well, yes I see
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, james boylan wrote:
I think some people are slightly embarrassed by the futurist
philosophy/mythology that sometimes informs techno and look upon it with the
same disdain as punks did on some of the excesses of progressive rock,
musical or otherwise.
You're right.
But if you're going to add another layer to it...why not use a WRITER?
I don't know that we're supposed to take it that seriously. I think
it's just supposed to come off as whimsical stoned nonsense.
hire a copywriter, and then you just get *insincere* whimsical stoned
nonsense. (please
The grammar is not the point at all ... (but it is just as bad in the
origianl notes as in the transcript, I'm afraid) The point is whether we
really think Jeff is adding a great deal to the history of Western
philosophy with all this? Of course the validity of temporality (or not),
the
Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I don't think that musicians need writers to transform their work into
something that is more meaningful. Most music is equivocal, and it is this
that has imbued it with so
It's usually sincerely meant. Why dhouldn't they? You don't have to read it,
right?
:)
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Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 10:43 PM
Yes, I think that we have been here before.
Am I the only one who gets slightly
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The grammar is not the point at all ... (but it is just as bad in the
origianl notes as in the transcript, I'm afraid) The point is whether we
really think
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