Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-25 Thread Tristan Watkins
- Original Message - From: "rg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Robert Taylor'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 3:28 AM Subject: RE: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts Who's that? Giorgio Moroder?

RE: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-25 Thread rg
Who's that? Giorgio Moroder? -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:55 AM To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts Man, you're more single-minded than that Austrian cha

Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-24 Thread kent williams
;t have the intellectual capacity to worry about many things... > > what kind of man spends time that could be spend raising his son, arguing > on the internet? > > > - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Thursda

RE: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-24 Thread The Archiver
I agree, you need to sort out this r3dshift/Joe guy out. It's way out of order! -Original Message- From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 April 2008 01:24 To: kent williams Cc: /0; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts Kent, you need to ban

Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-24 Thread Frank Glazer
- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 2:27 PM > > > > Subject: Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts > > > > > > > > > > > Tom's t

Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-24 Thread Kelly B. Delaney
d of man spends time that could be spend raising his son, arguing > on the internet? > > > - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 2:27 PM > > Subject: Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts >

Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-24 Thread /0
8 2:27 PM Subject: Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts Tom's the lucky one. If I had that outlook, I wouldn't have to worry about spending the rent on new 12"s. m50 At 12:45 2008.04.24, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 1:29 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&

Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-24 Thread m50
Tom's the lucky one. If I had that outlook, I wouldn't have to worry about spending the rent on new 12"s. m50 At 12:45 2008.04.24, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 1:29 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > painting the world in absolutes is dangerous to the mind, soul, and

Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-24 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
> > if you're sticking that fence around other people then you're ego trippin' > > to the highest degree > > nope. > > tom do you have a mirror in your house at all Tom? MEK

Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-24 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Man, you're more single-minded than that Austrian chap with the funny > tache all music is equally good. tom

RE: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-24 Thread Robert Taylor
ct: Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 1:29 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > painting the world in absolutes is dangerous to the mind, soul, and > spirit might as well we all give up then - you included might as > well lay down and die nope. > ah

Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-24 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 1:29 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > painting the world in absolutes is dangerous to the mind, soul, and spirit > might as well we all give up then - you included > might as well lay down and die nope. > ah, but you're trying to put a corral, which is at best a conc

Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-24 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
"Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 04/24/2008 11:28:08 AM: > On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:17 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > because people, Luddites - naysayers - Dad rockers - old farts with > > slippers and pipes, have been saying those exact words for eons > > it all co

Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-24 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:17 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > because people, Luddites - naysayers - Dad rockers - old farts with > slippers and pipes, have been saying those exact words for eons > it all comes down to personal taste in music but i am not coming from that perspective of "wha

Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-24 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cos there couldn't possibly be any good music out there that you're not > aware of well then, let's see some of there great artists that are out there that nobody knows about. i will tell you exactly why they are terribl

RE: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-24 Thread Robert Taylor
org Subject: Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeeesus christ - I think you must be autistic or i could just not listen to nonsense music. it must

Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-24 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
> i think there really just > isnt much good music being made today. i dont see why that can't be > true. > > tom because people, Luddites - naysayers - Dad rockers - old farts with slippers and pipes, have been saying those exact words for eons it all comes down to personal taste in music you set

Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-24 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeeesus christ - I think you must be autistic or i could just not listen to nonsense music. it must be about the same. tom

RE: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-24 Thread Robert Taylor
Jeeesus christ - I think you must be autistic Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 April 2008 17:02 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement act

Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-24 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:45 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jose Gonzales is just scraping the surface of acoustic music > You aren't going to hear a lot of the DIY labels on ANY radio > that's where so much of it is at now if you say so. maybe i just dont really care that much. like i sai

Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-24 Thread Carlos De Brito
Apr 2008 10:45:38 -0500 > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > An: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: 313@hyperreal.org > Betreff: Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts > "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 04/24/2008 10:34:06 > AM: &

Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-24 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
"Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 04/24/2008 10:34:06 AM: > On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:27 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Are you talking about staying within the bounds of dance music though? > > There's amazing folk stuff going on - great music from all aroundthe world > >

Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-24 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:27 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are you talking about staying within the bounds of dance music though? > There's amazing folk stuff going on - great music from all around the world > - some very good/strong independent song writers - fantastic classical > music i

Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-24 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Are you talking about staying within the bounds of dance music though? There's amazing folk stuff going on - great music from all around the world - some very good/strong independent song writers - fantastic classical music Of course there's tons of nonsense but there always has been. Now with the

Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-24 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:20 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's very true - especially if you're looking beyond a niche. I can't > keep up with all the good music. i disagree. almost every genre is the same, tons and tons of nonsense with just a few decent people making new stuff. in fact

Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-24 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
That's very true - especially if you're looking beyond a niche. I can't keep up with all the good music. Thank god for promos! MEK Fred Heutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 04/24/2008 01:48:02 AM: > I'm with my friend Mikebee, long time Detroit festival attendee, ace > DJ, buyer at the world-ren

Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-24 Thread Tristan Watkins
- Original Message - From: "J.C." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313 Mailing List" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 6:59 AM Subject: Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts On 23 April 2008, Fred Heutte wrote: I'm with my friend Mikebee

Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-23 Thread Frank Glazer
gotta love mike bee. he's heart and soul man. and that cosmic mix he did for ISM was sweet. On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 2:48 AM, Fred Heutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm with my friend Mikebee, long time Detroit festival attendee, ace > DJ, buyer at the world-renowned Amoeba records and possess

Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-23 Thread Fred Heutte
I'm with my friend Mikebee, long time Detroit festival attendee, ace DJ, buyer at the world-renowned Amoeba records and possessor of serious vinyl. He was recently profiled in the SF Weekly and says, "Every year there's always people out there who'll go, 'Ah, what a sh1##ty year for music this wa

Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-23 Thread Michael Kuszynski
I really liked reading this. American electronic music has gotten into a pretty serious rut in the past 7 years. Despite this, I have continued to hear phenomenal music. It appears that the successes are not being held by those creators often, and the success and cash ends up going to a trendier

Re: Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-22 Thread /0
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:56 AM Subject: Re: Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: well, it's called Movement: Detroit's Electronic Music Festival. an amalgamation of the names previously used for

Re: Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-22 Thread JT Stewart
> Moby, The Cool Kids, Dieselboy, Benny Benassi, Deadmau5, Girl Talk, > James Zabiela. if that isnt the definition of a pedestrian rave, i > dont know what is. it isn't and you don't. i was a raver. i went to something like 65 raves between 1993-1994. there are many festivals all over the count

Re: Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-22 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
and I have to agree with Tom here too - Paxahau is, cobbling two previous festival names together, confusing the punters into thinking they are going to the same festivals that occurred in 2000-2002, and 2003/04 It works in their favor but could be seen as trying to weasel their way into an inheri

Re: Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-22 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:13 AM, JT Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > why not just call it "Big Rave X" if that is all it is going to be? > > because that's not all it is, it's not all or nothing. you're argument > loses quite a bit of validity if you make sweeping generalizations to > gl

Re: Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-22 Thread JT Stewart
> why not just call it "Big Rave X" if that is all it is going to be? because that's not all it is, it's not all or nothing. you're argument loses quite a bit of validity if you make sweeping generalizations to glaze over any details that contradict your opinion. it's hardly a super-hyped rave.

Re: Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-22 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > well, it's called Movement: Detroit's Electronic Music > Festival. an amalgamation of the names previously used for the festival that was about detroit music. which is the problem. > so i guess, if you want, you CAN

Re: Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A : 313@hyperreal.org Oggetto : Re: Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts Data : Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:40:50 -0400 > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:47 AM, JT Stewart > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: did my message not come > > thru? it was about movement. and

Re: Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-22 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:47 AM, JT Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > did my message not come thru? it was about movement. and i agree with > /0, pretty much, minus the enthusiasm why not just call it "Big Rave X" if that is all it is going to be? the problem is that they still want to market

Re: Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-22 Thread JT Stewart
From: Williams, Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:42 AM > To: /0; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts > > > Hey Reds1ht > > It would be more interesting if you stopped being so aggressive and > argumen

RE: Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-22 Thread Odeluga, Ken
There is nothing about Movement in this thread. -Original Message- From: Williams, Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:42 AM To: /0; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts Hey Reds1ht It would be more interesting if you stopped

RE: Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-22 Thread Williams, Graham
: 22 April 2008 01:52 To: Fred Heutte; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts "It would be at least borderline interesting if you would respond to what I actually wrote." -Fred Heutte - Original Message - From: "Fred Heutte" <[EMA

Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-21 Thread JT Stewart
> well then the prevalent view here is wrong. the festival works best when it > books diverse acts to pays its bills and perpetuate its own existence. big There is no evidence to support the assumption that booking more artists outside of the Detroit tradition improves the success of the festiva

Re: Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-21 Thread /0
"It would be at least borderline interesting if you would respond to what I actually wrote." -Fred Heutte - Original Message - From: "Fred Heutte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:49 PM Subject: Fw: Re: Re: (3

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2008-04-21 Thread Fred Heutte
"well then the prevalent view here is wrong" So it always seems coming from you. fh -- mail forwarded, original message follows -- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],313@hyperreal.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:22:42 -

Re: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-21 Thread /0
well then the prevalent view here is wrong. the festival works best when it books diverse acts to pays its bills and perpetuate its own existence. big deal, so you wont like every act, but without the other 75 percent, the 25 percent you want wouldnt have a festival to play at. and for every