On 7 October 2014 18:27, Álvaro Jurado wrote:
>
> , and ld could not assign right the values if declarations are not
> specified ansi style (variable initialization it's made by ld, not by the
> compiler): you will get some dragons in some cases.
Initialisations of externals is done by the comp
I'm using gcc to compile plan9 code from some time (4.7/4.8) and that
option are masking real behaviour. Do not warns or put out an error about
"anonymous structs", but you will have a conflict if to structs in the same
source are including a, for example, "Lock;" element, and ld could not
assign r
> Otherwise, your change is fine, but "hdr" would probably be
> a better name than "Biobufhdr". Also, don't forget to update
> your code to use b->hdr.fid instead of b->fid, and so on.
Thanks for all answers!
(They also helped to find a short documentation in /sys/doc/compiler)
Carsten
> in bio.h there is a
>
> struct Biobuf
> {
> Biobufhdr;
> uchar b[Bungetsize+Bsize];
> };
>
> where Biobufhdr is declared as
>
> typedef struct Biobufhdr Biobufhdr;
This is an unnamed structure. Recent versions of GCC
should be able to handle them when setting the
-fplan
hi,
no, it is an anonym field. and it is used in a way that is not part
of ansi c. there is an extension in newer versions of gcc which
supports it, but if you wan't to port plan 9 c to unix you can use the
libs from plan9port. that's far more easier.
bence
2014-10-07 17:24 GMT+02:00 Carsten
Hello,
in bio.h there is a
struct Biobuf
{
Biobufhdr;
uchar b[Bungetsize+Bsize];
};
where Biobufhdr is declared as
typedef struct Biobufhdr Biobufhdr;
To make it compile with gcc under UNIX I changed the struct to
struct Biobuf
{
Biobufhdr Biobufhdr;
no, but drawterm will (i believe).
On 21 Feb 2013, at 20:27, David Leimbach wrote:
> Can I run it on my iPhone?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 21, 2013, at 11:58 AM, andrey mirtchovski
> wrote:
>
>> good day. is this the p9p on osx help forum?
>>
Can I run it on my iPhone?
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 21, 2013, at 11:58 AM, andrey mirtchovski wrote:
> good day. is this the p9p on osx help forum?
>
No.
On Feb 21, 2013, at 14:58, andrey mirtchovski wrote:
> good day. is this the p9p on osx help forum?
>
Sorry, google's inconsistent mail interface made me post to the list
instead of private. I didn't mean to make this a discussion of
google's web technolgy, I just want to promote the sending of certain
compatible formats that everyone can read without problems.
My gmail only sends
Content-Type: t
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Comeau At9Fans
wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 1:39 PM, erik quanstrom
> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu Feb 21 13:23:26 EST 2013, j...@jfloren.net wrote:
>> > I think his mail client is just too world-class, breathtaking,
>> > amazing, and fabulous--have you tried it?
>>
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 01:39:14PM -0500, erik quanstrom wrote:
> On Thu Feb 21 13:23:26 EST 2013, j...@jfloren.net wrote:
> > I think his mail client is just too world-class, breathtaking,
> > amazing, and fabulous--have you tried it?
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 10:13 AM, hiro <23h...@gmail.
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 1:39 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> On Thu Feb 21 13:23:26 EST 2013, j...@jfloren.net wrote:
> > I think his mail client is just too world-class, breathtaking,
> > amazing, and fabulous--have you tried it?
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 10:13 AM, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrot
On Thu Feb 21 13:23:26 EST 2013, j...@jfloren.net wrote:
> I think his mail client is just too world-class, breathtaking,
> amazing, and fabulous--have you tried it?
>
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 10:13 AM, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > can you please stop sending html mails? thanks
why does t
I think his mail client is just too world-class, breathtaking,
amazing, and fabulous--have you tried it?
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 10:13 AM, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> can you please stop sending html mails? thanks
>
> On 2/21/13, Comeau At9Fans wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Cha
can you please stop sending html mails? thanks
On 2/21/13, Comeau At9Fans wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Charles Forsyth
> wrote:
>
>> On 18 February 2013 13:02, Comeau At9Fans
>> wrote:
>>
>>> seems to be doing is setting up allowing the call to compile and once
>>> that is satisfied
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:02 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > No, the compiler is simply applying scope rules. Without that inner
> > declaration explicitly overriding the outer declaration--whether
> > static or extern is used-- it will not compile (eg, if you put "static
> > void fn(Outer*);" or
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Charles Forsyth
wrote:
> On 18 February 2013 13:02, Comeau At9Fans wrote:
>
>> seems to be doing is setting up allowing the call to compile and once
>> that is satisfied then the subsequent definition "has" to match it, as
>> perhaps a way to do type punning.
>
>
On 18 February 2013 15:02, erik quanstrom wrote:
> since nested functions are not allowed, applying nested scope seems
> a bit odd.
>
Nevertheless, that is what it is.
> No, the compiler is simply applying scope rules. Without that inner
> declaration explicitly overriding the outer declaration--whether
> static or extern is used-- it will not compile (eg, if you put "static
> void fn(Outer*);" or "extern void fn(Outer*);" and remove static from
> fn in the file
On 18 February 2013 13:02, Comeau At9Fans wrote:
> seems to be doing is setting up allowing the call to compile and once that
> is satisfied then the subsequent definition "has" to match it, as perhaps a
> way to do type punning.
No, the compiler is simply applying scope rules. Without that inn
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 9:38 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> i don't think this should link, since wrongaddr calls
> fn with an Outer* not an Inner*.
> ...
Normally in more mainstream C the nested "static void fn(Outer*);"
declaration would produce a diagnostic and instead what it (the compiler
and
i don't think this should link, since wrongaddr calls
fn with an Outer* not an Inner*.
#include
#include
typedef struct Inner Inner;
typedef struct Outer Outer;
struct Inner {
int x;
};
struct Outer {
charbuf[0x1000];
Inner;
};
void
wrongaddr(Outer *o)
{
On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> If you ask around, you'll find tons of stories from people who took
> entry-level programming courses, taught in C++, who got in trouble for
> submitting C-compliant or similar code. Many schools teach design
> patterns and top-down object cru
On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 03:21:37PM +, Charles Forsyth wrote:
> I see. That might be tedious.
>
If you ask around, you'll find tons of stories from people who took
entry-level programming courses, taught in C++, who got in trouble for
submitting C-compliant or similar code. Many schools teach
I see. That might be tedious.
On 3 December 2012 14:58, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> This may be true, but this is not what is being taught at the university
> level.
On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 02:13:53PM +, Charles Forsyth wrote:
> >> C++ and java feel highly inconsistent and are full of stupid busywork
> >> and strange programming philosophies that you have to "learn" about,
>
> I've written programs in both languages and you don't really have to
> worry abo
>> C++ and java feel highly inconsistent and are full of stupid busywork
>> and strange programming philosophies that you have to "learn" about,
I've written programs in both languages and you don't really have to
worry about the philosophies,
if by that is meant things like the Pattern stuff, whe
On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 15:54:11 +0100
Hugo Rivera wrote:
> > the fact that there are bigger problems in the world does not imply
> > that we ourselves are in a position to do anything about them. heck,
> > i see problems very close to home that i can't do much about. i can
> > try to make argument
IMHO Go as a system programming language would be a step forward,
but C++, obviously not... It's a beast and there are no good compact
books about it.
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:57:43AM -0800, David Leimbach wrote:
> Haskell
No.
Haskell
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Eugene Gorodinsky
wrote:
> Yay! A "C++ vs the world" flamewar! Again.
>
> Let me just point out that writing a game engine consists of a little bit
> more than just calls to opengl. Game engine programmers tend to embed
> scripting languages in their engi
Yay! A "C++ vs the world" flamewar! Again.
Let me just point out that writing a game engine consists of a little bit
more than just calls to opengl. Game engine programmers tend to embed
scripting languages in their engines as opposed to writing the engines in
Java, C#, Python or Lua.
P.S. Coinci
On Nov 22, 2012 8:31 AM, wrote:
>
> > it's an Xbox game. and yes, you
> > need it ;)
>
> Xbox-360? Surely it runs IBM code?
>
Yes. IBM power pc
> :-)
>
> ++L
>
>
On Nov 23, 2012 6:03 AM, wrote:
>
> > Are operating systems written in C for it's technical merits or because
> > it is industry standard practice?
>
> Neither: pragmatism. The language and Unix grew up together, teaching
> each other many tricks.
>
> ++L
>
And they are not all written in C.
>
> Been trying to read through this thread through the day and well I think
> the absurdity of your claim pretty much sums up a large portion of the
> thread, unfortunately. Ay Caramba indeed :(
>
Hey, I haven't really been following this thread either. I have a day
job, and was just channeling my
> Are operating systems written in C for it's technical merits or because
> it is industry standard practice?
Neither: pragmatism. The language and Unix grew up together, teaching
each other many tricks.
++L
Em 23/11/2012 08:21, dexen deVries escreveu:
> C++ for the assembly-line-style game development [1] is choosen as PHB's safe
> bet -- a.k.a. ``industry's stadard practice'' -- and not on technical
> merits.
> cue picture of Scott Adams (of Dilbert fame).
Are operating systems written in C for
On Friday 23 of November 2012 10:47:09 Gorka Guardiola wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Winston Kodogo wrote:
> > But, let the record show, C++ has been scientifically shown to be an
> > unbelievably crap and monstrously complex language, even though I earn
> > my daily bread by using it
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Winston Kodogo wrote:
>
> But, let the record show, C++ has been scientifically shown to be an
> unbelievably crap and monstrously complex language, even though I earn
> my daily bread by using it. I was a contemporary of Dr Stroustrup when
> he was spending his t
On 11/22/2012 10:52 PM, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 05:18:03PM +, Charles Forsyth wrote:
Yes, that would be silly. You need only the screwdriver, provided it's sonic,
but I suppose that just emphasises your point about tools.
You did not get the big picture: the sc
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 05:31:52AM +0200, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 07:47:07PM +0200, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
> >> > a computer is a multiple purpose device, not an education.
> >>
> >> Prove it.
> >>
> >
> > Have you even contacted IAEP or one of the dozens of
> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 07:47:07PM +0200, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
>> > a computer is a multiple purpose device, not an education.
>>
>> Prove it.
>>
>
> Have you even contacted IAEP or one of the dozens of OLPC working groups
> in your area?
Sounds more like an accusation than a response
Ay, Curamba!
This discussion is exactly why we need Boyd.
But, let the record show, C++ has been scientifically shown to be an
unbelievably crap and monstrously complex language, even though I earn
my daily bread by using it. I was a contemporary of Dr Stroustrup when
he was spending his time dra
> To put it another way, I consider emotional arguments about programming
> languages so unimportant that they pale in comparison to encouraging my
> daughter to eat a healthy breakfast; starving kids in other countries
> didn't even enter my mind.
emotional areguments are poor arguments, regardle
On Nov 22, 2012, at 10:12 AM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
>> I remembering finding Iverson's book "A Programming Language" quite
>> interesting.
>
> I don't remember the book any more, but I did read the library copy in
> its entirety, maybe even more than once and was thrilled when the
> unive
On Nov 22, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote:
> I remembering finding Iverson's book "A Programming Language" quite
> interesting.
I highly recommended Iverson's Turing Award lecture "Notation as a tool of
thought".
http://www.jsoftware.com/papers/tot.htm
http://awards.acm.org/images/
Only if she give me free healthcare and hookers.
--
Veety
On Thu, 22 Nov 2012, Richard Miller wrote:
9th grade is usually 1st year "high school" in the us.
DeutschlandUSA
- -
Hochschule college
Gymnasium high school
Sporthalle gymnasium
I thought that Uni was equal to college here in
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:45:51PM -0500, Dan Cross wrote:
> Thanks for making my point for me.
Someone had to. It sure wasn't you.
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 07:47:07PM +0200, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
> > a computer is a multiple purpose device, not an education.
>
> Prove it.
>
Have you even contacted IAEP or one of the dozens of OLPC working groups
in your area?
>> I remembering finding Iverson's book "A Programming Language" quite
>> interesting.
> ...
> Today it is just a topic for nostalgic conversation,
What Iverson did next:
http://9fans.net/archive/2009/07/265
> Books do still get printed btw.
I'm still looking for a copy of Hollindale and Toothill's "Digital
Computers" (from memory, of course), which I remember being another of
the formative books I was privileged to read.
++L
> I remembering finding Iverson's book "A Programming Language" quite
> interesting.
I don't remember the book any more, but I did read the library copy in
its entirety, maybe even more than once and was thrilled when the
university almost accidentally got an APL interpreter from Univac for
their
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 05:40:25PM +, Pavel Klinkovsky wrote:
> > and even that aside, can you cite studies that show that the choice of
> > programming
> > language is the dominant term in determining the error rate of the resulting
> > code?
>
> Could it help?
> http://archive.adaic.com/int
> PS2 development is generally too expensive for the cost model of education
> games, sadly.
Thanks, that helps. If anyone knows something that contradicts the
above, I'd be keen to hear it.
++L
> No doubt. As a learning exercise, such things are great. But I don't know
> that the brand of brevity engendered by APL really leads to fewer defects.
No, although you don't have to look as far to find the errors :-)
++L
> In the big scheme of things, absolutely none of this matters. Whether one
> programs in Java, C, Go, COBOL or 370 assembler doesn't really make any
> difference; one could die tomorrow, and would anyone care what language
> s/he programmed in? really? This world has bigger problems than that.
PS2 development is generally too expensive for the cost model of education
games, sadly.
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 9:39 AM, wrote:
> > A friend is developing such
> > web/tablet based lessons for similar kids in India (India has as big a
> > problem of poor ed. as the whole of Africa).
>
> The BB
On Nov 22, 2012 12:43 PM, wrote:
> > Ha! Ever programmed in APL?
>
> Don't knock it, to learn APL I had to "shift paradigm" and it was a
> very important lesson in my programming education.
No doubt. As a learning exercise, such things are great. But I don't know
that the brand of brevity engend
> a computer is a multiple purpose device, not an education.
Prove it.
++L
Thanks for making my point for me.
On Nov 22, 2012 12:13 PM, "Kurt H Maier" wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 09:38:06AM -0500, Dan Cross wrote:
> > Personally, I think that all of this language posturing is
> > "geekier-than-thou" nonsense.
>
> And the rest of this email is "wiser-than-thou" bull
Nor should you. What she eats is my problem not yours, and it's an
incredibly minor problem. Like, only a little more important than worrying
about C++ and Java.
On Nov 22, 2012 12:33 PM, "hiro" <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> dan, I don't care about your children.
>
>
> dan, I don't care about your children.
You may sing a different tune if/when Dan's daughter becomes the
President of the USA.
++L
> and even that aside, can you cite studies that show that the choice of
> programming
> language is the dominant term in determining the error rate of the resulting
> code?
Could it help?
http://archive.adaic.com/intro/ada-vs-c/cada_art.html
Pavel
> Ha! Ever programmed in APL?
Don't knock it, to learn APL I had to "shift paradigm" and it was a
very important lesson in my programming education.
++L
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote:
>> 9th grade is usually 1st year "high school" in the us.
>
> DeutschlandUSA
> - -
> Hochschule college
> Gymnasium high school
> Sporthalle gymnasium
>
>
It's
> A friend is developing such
> web/tablet based lessons for similar kids in India (India has as big a
> problem of poor ed. as the whole of Africa).
The BBC reports exceptional success by some NGOs introducing tablets
in rural (central) Africa amongst children. But the price is wrong.
Scrappy,
> so that's just an anecdote. i'd like to know more about the subject.
It's not going to be a popular subject, I don't think your curiosity
will be rewarded.
I do agree that culture is very important. I also think that I was
extremely lucky to learn computing at the time when there were many
di
On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 18:22:33 +0100 tlaro...@polynum.com wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 05:18:03PM +, Charles Forsyth wrote:
> > Yes, that would be silly. You need only the screwdriver, provided it's soni
> c,
> > but I suppose that just emphasises your point about tools.
> >
>
> You did no
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 05:18:03PM +, Charles Forsyth wrote:
> Yes, that would be silly. You need only the screwdriver, provided it's sonic,
> but I suppose that just emphasises your point about tools.
>
You did not get the big picture: the screwdriver is for the engine; the
hammer is to deal
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 09:38:06AM -0500, Dan Cross wrote:
> Personally, I think that all of this language posturing is
> "geekier-than-thou" nonsense.
And the rest of this email is "wiser-than-thou" bullshit. Programming
languages ARE tools. If you enjoy using shitty tools to earn your
living,
On Nov 22, 2012 9:56 AM, "dexen deVries" wrote:
>
> On Thursday 22 of November 2012 09:38:06 Dan Cross wrote:
> > In the big scheme of things, absolutely none of this matters. Whether
one
> > programs in Java, C, Go, COBOL or 370 assembler doesn't really make any
> > difference; one could die tom
On Nov 22, 2012 9:50 AM, "erik quanstrom" wrote:
>
> i agree with your point. but i think that you the statments you point
> out are hyperbole.
That is fair to an extent.
> > In the big scheme of things, absolutely none of this matters. Whether
one
> > programs in Java, C, Go, COBOL or 370 ass
On Nov 22, 2012, at 8:06 AM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
>> Of course, it depends on the problem considered. But I think the big
>> problems in the world have little to do with programming languages,
>> particularly c++, which is the topic at hand.
>
> Well, in the unequal world of long-post-apar
> 9th grade is usually 1st year "high school" in the us.
DeutschlandUSA
- -
Hochschule college
Gymnasium high school
Sporthalle gymnasium
On Thu Nov 22 11:15:36 EST 2012, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
> > and even that aside, can you cite studies that show that the choice of
> > programming
> > language is the dominant term in determining the error rate of the resulting
> > code?
>
> Come on, Erik, are you suggesting that because the
> it's an Xbox game. and yes, you
> need it ;)
Xbox-360? Surely it runs IBM code?
:-)
++L
> Great, you have my admiration, for what's worth. I truly mean that, no
> sarcasm or anything alike. It would be much better if I could offer my
> support instead, and maybe some day I could try to do something
> similar as you are.
Nice as it is to receive support, I must warn you that I have no
it's an Xbox game. and yes, you
need it ;)
On Nov 22, 2012, at 4:37 PM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
>> Halo 4
>
> Whatever it is, I haven't needed it in the past 38 years, should I
> have?
>
> ++L
>
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:00:51AM -0500, erik quanstrom wrote:
>
> putting aside that i don't believe that the big problems like war and hunger
> have anything to do with programming errors,
There have been already numerous hundreds of millions if not billions of
money losses by financial t
> and even that aside, can you cite studies that show that the choice of
> programming
> language is the dominant term in determining the error rate of the resulting
> code?
Come on, Erik, are you suggesting that because there are no studies,
the situation could not exist?
It is only my opinion,
Exactly this, Dan. Thanks.
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Dan Cross wrote:
> Personally, I think that all of this language posturing is
> "geekier-than-thou" nonsense.
>
> Calling C++ or Java a disease? Really?
> Suggesting that if you use one of those languages you're somehow mentally
> defic
Great, you have my admiration, for what's worth. I truly mean that, no
sarcasm or anything alike. It would be much better if I could offer my
support instead, and maybe some day I could try to do something
similar as you are.
2012/11/22 :
>> Of course, it depends on the problem considered. But I
On Nov 22, 2012, at 8:00 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> and even that aside, can you cite studies that show that the choice of
> programming
> language is the dominant term in determining the error rate of the resulting
> code?
Buffer overflow exploits.
> Well, in the unequal world of long-post-apartheid rural South Africa
> where I live, my hope is to teach unspoilt, but also uneducated kids
> programming using Go on a Plan 9 platform (the teaching, mostly).
> Doing the same in C++ or Java would demand much more effort on my part
> and much more
> Of course, it depends on the problem considered. But I think the big
> problems in the world have little to do with programming languages,
> particularly c++, which is the topic at hand.
Well, in the unequal world of long-post-apartheid rural South Africa
where I live, my hope is to teach unspoi
On Thu Nov 22 10:48:35 EST 2012, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 03:54:11PM +0100, Hugo Rivera wrote:
> >
> > Of course, it depends on the problem considered. But I think the big
> > problems in the world have little to do with programming languages,
> > particularly c++, whi
> C++ and java feel highly inconsistent and are full of stupid busywork
> and strange programming philosophies that you have to "learn" about,
Chances are Go would not be what it is, if it was anything at all,
without the mistakes of C++ and Java (the latter are a mystery to me I
am not even remot
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 03:54:11PM +0100, Hugo Rivera wrote:
>
> Of course, it depends on the problem considered. But I think the big
> problems in the world have little to do with programming languages,
> particularly c++, which is the topic at hand.
But you are wrong... There are numerous big a
> Halo 4
Whatever it is, I haven't needed it in the past 38 years, should I
have?
++L
On Thursday 22 of November 2012 09:38:06 Dan Cross wrote:
> In the big scheme of things, absolutely none of this matters. Whether one
> programs in Java, C, Go, COBOL or 370 assembler doesn't really make any
> difference; one could die tomorrow, and would anyone care what language
> s/he programme
On Nov 22, 2012, at 9:54 AM, Balwinder S Dheeman
wrote:
>
>>
> Me, OTOH, would like see Go go out of fashion ASAP; What's so special a C/C++
> programmer can't do what she/he can do with Go?
Is this opinion born out of experience with Go or due to a lack of experience?
They are all Turing c
i agree with your point. but i think that you the statments you point
out are hyperbole.
> In the big scheme of things, absolutely none of this matters. Whether one
> programs in Java, C, Go, COBOL or 370 assembler doesn't really make any
> difference; one could die tomorrow, and would anyone ca
Personally, I think that all of this language posturing is
"geekier-than-thou" nonsense.
Calling C++ or Java a disease? Really?
Suggesting that if you use one of those languages you're somehow mentally
deficient? Really?
Suggesting someone change jobs because they're asked to program in C++?
Re
VisitorFactoryBuilderFactorySingletonDecoratorFactory.
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Charles Forsyth
wrote:
> I'm writing Java now, after a long gap, and it's ok.
> It has its share of annoying aspects, but it's not too bad.
> Java is a bit like a high-level assembler for the JVM,
> and there
On Thu Nov 22 08:50:13 EST 2012, 23h...@gmail.com wrote:
> Java was not in high school, but in 9th grade in a normal German school.
i think you're trying to make a subtile distinction about
the german educational system using american terms. if so,
it would be much less confusing with untranslate
My advice. Read Scott Meyer's books on Effective C++. He's probably the
most sane of the authors out there. Also Exceptional C++ isn't too bad by
Herb Sutter. It's a bunch of "puzzles" which are kind of fun to work out
but will reveal ignorance at the same time.
C++ Gotchas is kind of a fun bo
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 09:56:33AM -0500, Calvin Morrison wrote:
> > On 19 November 2012 04:59, Steve Simon wrote:
> >
> > Isn't all C code valid C++? problem solved.
>
>
> As of c99, they have diverged.
>
> They weren't the same in 1998 eit
Java was not in high school, but in 9th grade in a normal German school.
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Hugo Rivera wrote:
> Wow, C++ and Java in high school...
> We had nothing like that. Probably because I come from an
> underdeveloped country; but I don't know, maybe having nothing to
> lear
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