I am thinking of the durability of the URL:s for the
various IWP9 articles. if www.iwp9.org will be reused
for further hosting, a subdirectory (as in 'papers/4e/')
might be a good idea.I suppose that some domain bloat
is hard to avoid, when things are so decentralised ;-)
/jonas
Here is a secon
On Tue May 4 16:05:13 EDT 2010, jonas.amo...@home.se wrote:
> I am thinking of the durability of the URL:s for the
> various IWP9 articles. if www.iwp9.org will be reused
> for further hosting, a subdirectory (as in 'papers/4e/')
> might be a good idea.I suppose that some domain bloat
> is hard to
erik quanstrom said:
> On Tue May 4 16:05:13 EDT 2010, jonas.amo...@home.se wrote:
> > I am thinking of the durability of the URL:s for the
> > various IWP9 articles. if www.iwp9.org will be reused
> > for further hosting, a subdirectory (as in 'papers/4e/')
> > might be a good idea.I suppose th
> would be Quanstrom2009a.pdf Quanstrom2009b.pdf or possibly something like
> Quanstrom2009AAN.pdf Quanstrom2009SR.pdf This would help with various
> maintenance and automation tasks.
i'm not sure i understand how this would help. currently
there is a single list of paper names. for your use, t
> i'm not sure i understand how this would help. currently
> there is a single list of paper names. for your use, these
> names are random. changing to a list of authors,
> years and a seperate sequence list per author sounds at best
> no less complicated to me. for your use, i believe such a
On Tue May 4 16:00:50 EDT 2010, jonas.amo...@home.se wrote:
> I am thinking of the durability of the URL:s for the
> various IWP9 articles. if www.iwp9.org will be reused
> for further hosting, a subdirectory (as in 'papers/4e/')
> might be a good idea.I suppose that some domain bloat
> is hard to
On May 6, 2010, at 9:55 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> speaking of which, is there any interest in iwp9 5e?
yes
Me too. I thought 4 was great.
I keep wanting to have a workshop here:
http://www.naturebridge.org/headlands/conference-facilities
It's stunning and SF is right over the bridge. This time around we
could emphasize hacking more than talks, and let people show us what
they've got. Would love to see
On Thu May 6 12:01:32 EDT 2010, rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
> Me too. I thought 4 was great.
>
> I keep wanting to have a workshop here:
> http://www.naturebridge.org/headlands/conference-facilities
>
> It's stunning and SF is right over the bridge. This time around we
> could emphasize hacking mo
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:01 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
>
> are you gonna host?
Actually, the big question to start is: what are people willing to
pay? We have a lot of students, for example. IWP9 4 was a bargain.
I've had one experience with a workshop priced out of people's ability
to reach or
On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 04:18:55PM +, ron minnich wrote:
>
> Do we have some idea of what people can afford? Another option is to
> have it right in SF, but that again starts to look pricey ($165/night
> minimum, cheap for you euro-spending guys but ...)
Hum... seems you're not listening to e
ron minnich wrote:
I figure Marin Headlands ought to be cheap (dormitory housing!) but
very attractive (right at the Golden Gate!).
Cheap indeed! (apologies for the html)
Our overnight package includes:
* 3 meals per person
* 1 meeting room for every 1 night stay
* 1-time room set-u
> Our overnight package includes:
>
> * 3 meals per person
> * 1 meeting room for every 1 night stay
> * 1-time room set-up
> * Overnight lodging
>
> Group sizeWeekday*Weekend**
> 10-25 people $95.00/person $99.00/person
> 26-75 people $89/person $93/person
>
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote:
>
>> *Weekday overnight accommodations are not available from September to June.
>
> this will mean peak season airfares and very tight deadline.
The food looked good but this weekday overnight thing is a deal breaker.
L
> Let's try something else.
how about Seattle? i have looked into conference facilities provided
by the Port of Seattle, and they seem reasonably priced. there are
several locations, but the least expensive will be the conference
rooms at the airport. for 60 or less people a room like the Londo
> I would be very interested in attending IWP9, but whatever the location
> is, it will be probably out of my financial reach, combining travel and
> accomodations.
>
> I think that I'm not the only one in this case: definitively no lack of
> interest; but lack of means---and lack of vision even
doesn't the weather get ugly in seattle about that time?
ron
> doesn't the weather get ugly in seattle about that time?
pick any two: cheap, pretty, convenient. ☺
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote:
>> doesn't the weather get ugly in seattle about that time?
>
> pick any two: cheap, pretty, convenient. ☺
I actually like seattle that time of year anyway.
Is seattle a one-hop place from Europe? I am sure it is from the
> Is seattle a one-hop place from Europe? I am sure it is from the
> important spots on the pacific rim ... this is an interesting
> suggestion!
daily direct flights from/to: Amsterdam, Frankfurt, London, Paris and Reykjavik
On Thu, 6 May 2010 14:21:24 -0700, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com>
wrote:
>> doesn't the weather get ugly in seattle about that time?
>
> pick any two: cheap, pretty, convenient. ☺
I do not know about you but when I go to a conference I actually go FOR
the conference. If we really wanted pre
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote:
> >> doesn't the weather get ugly in seattle about that time?
> >
> > pick any two: cheap, pretty, convenient. ☺
>
> I actually like seattle that time of year anyway.
which one did athens, ga fail?
- erik
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:03 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> which one did athens, ga fail?
I think athens won big on cheap and pretty, and I also think we all
felt the host (i.e. coraid) was fantastic.
It was somewhat inconvenient to get to, and people had to pay the cost
of a rental car.
I would
On Thu May 6 19:09:36 EDT 2010, rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:03 PM, erik quanstrom
> wrote:
>
> > which one did athens, ga fail?
>
> I think athens won big on cheap and pretty, and I also think we all
> felt the host (i.e. coraid) was fantastic.
>
> It was somewhat inc
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 16:08, ron minnich wrote:
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:03 PM, erik quanstrom
> wrote:
>
>> which one did athens, ga fail?
>
> I think athens won big on cheap and pretty, and I also think we all
> felt the host (i.e. coraid) was fantastic.
>
> It was somewhat inconvenient to
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:08 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:03 PM, erik quanstrom
> wrote:
>
>> which one did athens, ga fail?
>
> I think athens won big on cheap and pretty, and I also think we all
> felt the host (i.e. coraid) was fantastic.
>
> It was somewhat inconvenient t
> which one did athens, ga fail?
i wasn't trying to be disparaging toward past venues. i would guess
if there was any, it would be convenience of getting there/back.
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:35 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>> *Weekday overnight accommodations are not available from September to June.
>>
>> this will mean peak season airfares and very tight deadline.
>
> The food look
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:45 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote:
>>> doesn't the weather get ugly in seattle about that time?
>>
>> pick any two: cheap, pretty, convenient. ☺
>
> I actually like seattle that time of year anyway.
>
> Is
Both Vancouver and Seattle are trivially doable for me.
I'd offer our Victoria offices, but we're moving into unknown space at the end
of August.
Paul
On 2010-05-07, at 6:09 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote:
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:45 PM, ron minnich wrote:
>> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:21 PM, S
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote:
> OSDI is in Vancouver in October, might be more justifiable as a
> destination for academic folks if the workshop and the conference
> "adjoined" -- it would at least be down to a single airfare.
I got burned doing that for coreboot due
Maybe Seattle? ...if in October, the Picasso Exhibit is also on in the
SAM as well (just saying).
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 8:48 AM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote:
>
>> OSDI is in Vancouver in October, might be more justifiable as a
>> destination fo
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Ramon de Vera wrote:
> Maybe Seattle? ...if in October, the Picasso Exhibit is also on in the
> SAM as well (just saying).
>
Yeah but by then the Lusty Lady across the street from the SAM will have
shut its doors forever (also just saying).
Dave
>
> On Fri, May
While we're at "just sayin"; from what I hear on #9fans, there still
is some interest to have that one happening in europe. So if you guys
from the other side of the pond think you would come, I could poke
around and see if I can get it hosted here, here being Grenoble, fr,
somewhere on the univers
I would most prefer to have it at a transport hub. That said, the
person who sets up the arrangements gets to call it.
I do have some calls coming back to me from local hotels.
ron
On Sat, May 08, 2010 at 01:11:16AM +0200, Mathieu Lonjaret wrote:
> While we're at "just sayin"; from what I hear on #9fans, there still
> is some interest to have that one happening in europe. So if you guys
> from the other side of the pond think you would come, I could poke
> around and see if I
> Well, I'm in Annecy (Haute-Savoie, France) so, for sure, an european
> located twin event will be more doable.
i don't think we have enough people to split into two.
- erik
On Sat, May 08, 2010 at 12:48:50PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > Well, I'm in Annecy (Haute-Savoie, France) so, for sure, an european
> > located twin event will be more doable.
>
> i don't think we have enough people to split into two.
In fact, I misread initially the proposal, reading in Eur
Skip and I have been talking offline. I do think seattle is looking
better and better.
- hub city
- good mass transit to a likely meeting place AND hotels right from the airport
- huge range of hotels, with some good low cost ones
- supportive organization for the meeting
and, finally, I may be w
I'd have pretty much no excuse for missing it... It's 20 minutes away :-)
On Saturday, May 8, 2010, ron minnich wrote:
> Skip and I have been talking offline. I do think seattle is looking
> better and better.
>
> - hub city
> - good mass transit to a likely meeting place AND hotels right from th
FWIW, there are two Google offices in the Seattle area; one in Freemont and one
in Kirkland, which is just across the water.Either one likely has a useful
setup for recording presentations and might also be usable for live streaming
of same. Of course, neither is particularly near SeaTac.
Hi,
IMHO I prefer Europe. The first iwp9 was in Europe, the second in USA,
third in Europe, the last in USA and the next?
On the other hand, Seattle (WA) is very far far far far away from here
(Europe). I cannot offer any place.
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Chad Brown wrote:
> FWIW, there
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Rodolfo (kix) wrote:
> Hi,
>
> IMHO I prefer Europe. The first iwp9 was in Europe, the second in USA,
> third in Europe, the last in USA and the next?
>
> On the other hand, Seattle (WA) is very far far far far away from here
> (Europe). I cannot offer any place.
On Wed, 12 May 2010 09:08:23 -0700, Chad Brown wrote:
> FWIW, there are two Google offices in the Seattle area; one in Freemont
> and one in Kirkland, which is just across the water.Either one
likely
> has a useful setup for recording presentations and might also be usable
for
> live streaming
I'm vaguely affiliated with MIT still via their student computing group (SIPB).
We've looked into convention/event support at MIT before, and the bottom
line is that such things really need a professor or department head as a
sponsor.
*Chad
On May 13, 2010, at 11:16 AM, EBo wrote:
> SeaTa
I think Skip and I and the other guys who are doing the work are
settling on seattle. The site of the meeting is still not fixed. But
the airport has great connections and great mass transit to a nice
downtown; the hotel prices are great; it's a very nice city to meet
in; and, well, nobody has come
I do not like Boston as a destination. The last four times I've travelled
there, or through there, I've been stuck overnight in the airport. As far as
I'm concerned, tread carefully when flying through Logan. Boston itself can be
enjoyable, and the surrounding pirtions of the North East are n
> I think Skip and I and the other guys who are doing the work are
> settling on seattle. The site of the meeting is still not fixed. But
> the airport has great connections and great mass transit to a nice
> downtown; the hotel prices are great; it's a very nice city to meet
> in; and, well, nobo
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:45 PM, EBo wrote:
> If you want a workshop format, then what are you looking for to be in the
> proceedings?
I'm not taking for granted that we need one.
ron
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Jeff Sickel wrote:
> I do not like Boston as a destination.
it's ok, I think it's going to be seattle :-)
ron
>> If you want a workshop format, then what are you looking for to be in
the
>> proceedings?
>
> I'm not taking for granted that we need one.
ok.
EBo --
On Thu May 13 23:15:28 EDT 2010, rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:45 PM, EBo wrote:
>
> > If you want a workshop format, then what are you looking for to be in the
> > proceedings?
>
> I'm not taking for granted that we need one.
i don't know making this needs to be a binar
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:27 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> On Thu May 13 23:15:28 EDT 2010, rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I'm not taking for granted that we need one.
>
> i don't know making this needs to be a binary switch.
It doesn't. But somebody needs to sign up to get the proceedings
printed,
On May 13, 2010, at 10:14 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Jeff Sickel wrote:
>> I do not like Boston as a destination.
>
> it's ok, I think it's going to be seattle :-)
Seattle's fine. Boston too would be fine. I just don't like/trust Logan.
Now if someone in or ar
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Jeff Sickel wrote:
> Now if someone in or around Albuquerque could schedule an IWP9 some year
> around the beginning of October Tough place to get to, but kill two
> birds w/ one stone (flight): IWP9 + Albuquerque International Ballon Fiesta.
plus hotel ra
On May 14, 2010, at 8:59 PM, ron minnich wrote:
>
> plus hotel rates that go through the roof :-)
who needs a hotel when you're hitting the day break launch?
anyway, glad to see movement towards a 5th IWP9. Let's hope Icelandic volcanos
don't shut out our European friends.
-jas
> Seattle's fine. Boston too would be fine. I just don't like/trust
Logan.
>
> Now if someone in or around Albuquerque could schedule an IWP9 some year
> around the beginning of October Tough place to get to, but kill two
> birds w/ one stone (flight): IWP9 + Albuquerque International Ball
I lived in NM for 8 years, I loved it, still do, but ABQ fails the
"transport hub" criterion.
I had lots of complaints about that when we had conferences in santa fe.
thanks
ron
> I lived in NM for 8 years, I loved it, still do, but ABQ fails the
> "transport hub" criterion.
>
> I had lots of complaints about that when we had conferences in santa fe.
Actually, Santa Fe is a pain to have as a destination for an international
conference unless there is a reason to be at t
On May 14, 2010, at 9:58 PM, EBo wrote:
I lived in NM for 8 years, I loved it, still do, but ABQ fails the
"transport hub" criterion.
I had lots of complaints about that when we had conferences in
santa fe.
Actually, Santa Fe is a pain to have as a destination for an
international
confe
> If I thought people would actually come, I would see if I could organize
> something in Ouray Colorado.
Do you live in that neck of the woods?
> It is about 300 miles north of Albuquerque
> in the San Juan Mountains. You get there by first flying to Denver,
> Phoenix, or Albuquerque, then c
On May 15, 2010, at 10:12 AM, EBo wrote:
If I thought people would actually come, I would see if I could
organize
something in Ouray Colorado.
Do you live in that neck of the woods?
Yes. There aren't many tech people around here and I think it would
be great to get a group of Plan 9 pe
the one big push for new mexico is spaceport america ... maybe we'd
get to see a test launch :-)
but that's a serious hike from ABQ :-)
ron
> the one big push for new mexico is spaceport america ... maybe we'd
> get to see a test launch :-)
>
> but that's a serious hike from ABQ :-)
True, then we can maybe move the venue to Los Cruses, Truth or
Consequences, or maybe even Hatch (and right about time for the chili
festival) ;-) I kn
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