Re: [abcusers] bye (for now, anyway) List Migration.

2004-09-15 Thread Tom Keays
est that we employ a SourceForge list and migrate to that. > > SourceForge mailing lists are run using MailMan, one of the best most > comprehensive Mailing list packages out there. -- Tom Keays / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: Re[2]: [abcusers] spam

2004-08-30 Thread Tom Keays
Try Toby Rider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, Steven Bennett wrote: > Steve Bennett wrote: > > > Hmmn -- I know a way to test that. If you're seeing this message, than that > > means my theory is probably correct, since the email address I'm using to > > send this to is NOT subscribed

Re: [abcusers] Project for someone or already available?

2004-08-25 Thread Tom Keays
Displaying the first n bars would be my preference. It is a feature I would certainly use (and would save me having to generate such things by hand). Um, how hard would it then be to export this "index of incipits" to abcm2ps? Tom On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Phil Taylor wrote: > An index of incipits. I

Re: [abcusers] AbcIde

2004-01-29 Thread Tom Keays
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Re: [abcusers] is BarFly going to interwork with GarageBand?

2004-01-13 Thread Tom Keays
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, Phil Taylor wrote: > > > If that's the case I don't see a lot of scope for interworking with > BarFly. I got to looking on the Apple web site and found this item for a piano keyboard. Thinking back to the rather interesting recent disc

Re: [abcusers] Playing ABC files

2004-01-10 Thread Tom Keays
Under Mac OS X, BarFly handles the editing, playing and screen display side of things and passes the output (either a single tune or tunebook) to abcm2ps for printing. abcm2ps has to be installed and runs at the command line under Mac's native Unix environment, but BarFly offers a graphical interf

Re: [abcusers] name that mazurka

2004-01-08 Thread Tom Keays
on 1/8/04 4:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > X:1 > T:Mazurka ? > M:3/4 > L:1/8 > K:G > DGA|:B2 BAGE|DB, D2 B,D|EC E2 CE|DB, D DGA|B2 BAGE|DB, D2 B,D|E2 F2 D2|[1 G3 > DGA:|[2 G3 DGA| > |:B2 B2 d2|cB c2 DF|A2 A2 dc|BA B2 GA|B2 B2 d2|cB c2 DF|A2 AcBA|[1 G3 DGA:|[2 > G3||

[abcusers] abcm2ps under Panther

2003-11-14 Thread Tom Keays
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Re: [abcusers] abcm2ps update

2003-09-20 Thread Tom Keays
Look on the abcplus website under binaries -> http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/#abcm2ps%20binaries It is current, 3.7.5, same as on Jef's site. -> http://moinejf.free.fr/ on 9/20/03 8:04 AM, Rickard Blixt wrote: > Where do I get the newest abcm2ps version that is "ready for Wind

Re: [abcusers] abc for Pocket PC

2003-09-11 Thread Tom Keays
e to view the staff notation. A mode to view the list of tunes in the file would be nice also but not absolutely essential. -- Tom Keays / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

[abcusers] Archive Updated?

2003-08-29 Thread Tom Keays
Hmm. I was looking for the url that was posted (this morning?) about the abcghost for windows (the minimal package containing abc2ps, ghostview, and abc2midi) and consulted the archives. The Date Index of the abcusers archives -> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/maillist.html seems t

[abcusers] Mac OS X pre-compiled binary of abcm2ps 3.7.3

2003-08-25 Thread Tom Keays
ne it all correctly. Let me know if you encounter any problems. I probably won't create a new binary for every iteration of the abcm2ps program. -- Tom Keays / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

[abcusers] abcm2ps : setting pagination

2003-08-15 Thread Tom Keays
imply not supported (ie, all abc files have to start with page 1)? It seems like a pretty basic requirement of a typesetting program. Any help or direction is much appreciated! -- Tom Keays / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] abcm2ps hangs

2003-08-14 Thread Tom Keays
2c|BGE EFG|AFD AFD|GAB ded|cAA A2c|BGE AFD|1 GEE E2F:|2 GEE E2D|| > |:E2e d2B|cBA B2A|GAB ~d3|cAA BAG|E2e d2B|cBA B2A|GAB cAB|GEE FED:| > |:B,EE GED|B,EE E2D|B,EE GAB|AFD AFD|B,EE GED|B,EE E2F|GAB cAB|1 GEE FED:|2 > GEE E2F|| -- Tom Keays / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Installing abcm2ps on MacOSX

2003-08-14 Thread Tom Keays
that the installation was > successful, I cannot find the application anywhere on my hard > disk. I have now run the installer twice with the same results. -- Tom Keays / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] ABC Music project page

2003-08-14 Thread Tom Keays
alshaw made. It seems to have vanished from: http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/abc-current.html -- Tom Keays / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Page break formatting

2003-08-14 Thread Tom Keays
FA DAFA|BAFA defg| "Em"eB (3BBB eBgf|eB (3BBB defg|"D"afec dBAF|DEFD "Em"E4:| Passing the abc to abcm2ps (or something equivalent) fits in perfectly with the workflow of producing tunebooks. Of course, when I'm working with individual tunes in the course of le

Re: [abcusers] Page break formatting

2003-08-14 Thread Tom Keays
Yes I agree. My long winded explanation can be boiled down to Irwin's succinct observation. I think Phil need not worry about implementing the %%newpage in BarFly. Especially if he adds the print output features he mentioned. On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, I. Oppenheim wrote: > Yes. A newpage directive i

Re: [abcusers] Page break formatting

2003-08-14 Thread Tom Keays
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Laura Conrad wrote: > Are you assuming that all tunes fit on one page? If not, it seems > like one very well might need %%newpage or some such within a tune. What usually happens when tunes won't fit? I am assuming that programs like abcm2ps simply continue them onto a secon

Re: [abcusers] Roll again

2003-08-10 Thread Tom Keays
ies that the gracenotes should take their time from the following note, so perhaps they should be written as ~n2 = o/4n3/4m/4n3/4 ~n3 = no/4n3/4m/4n3/4 -- Tom Keays / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Cattle

2003-07-29 Thread Tom Keays
on 7/29/03 11:03 AM, Phil Taylor wrote: > The singular of "cattle" is "cow". [...] I referred to > "bull semen" at one point and my supervisor (himself a world expert > in the field of Reproductive Biology) wanted it changed to "cow semen". I saw a man milk a bull, fie, man, fie. I saw a man mil

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-28 Thread Tom Keays
on 7/28/03 2:55 PM, I. Oppenheim wrote: > I hereby publicly release the third draft revision of > the ABC 2.0 standard: > http://www.joods.nl/~chazzanut/abc/abc2-draft.html I'm confused now. I thought Guido Gonzato was doing this. http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/abc2-draft.html Did I miss the pa

Re: [abcusers] Version 2.0.0 voice overlay and lyrics

2003-07-24 Thread Tom Keays
Oooh. I like Jack's suggestion. Mainly because nothing would have to be changed. If it ain't broke and all that... However, I don't think it has to be as complicated as Jack has it. > A2 E2 G2 A2 [&[& A B c d e f g a &\ > A A A A A A A A &\ > A G F E D C B,

Re: [abcusers] Version 2.0.0 voice overlay and lyrics

2003-07-24 Thread Tom Keays
We currently have this notation for voice overlay (although this is first I'd ever heard of it). A2 E2 G2 A2|A B c d e f g a & A A A A A A A A & A G F E D C B, A,|] John Chambers explained was functionally equivalent to doing this. [V:1] A2 E2 G2 A2 | A B c d e f g a |] [V:2] | A A

Re: [abcusers] Help - getting ABC files on BarFly

2003-07-24 Thread Tom Keays
BTW, instead of > /Developer/Tools/GetFileInfo /Users/thomaskeays/Desktop/McLennan.abc I could have typed > /Developer/Tools/GetFileInfo ~/Desktop/McLennan.abc Because /Users/thomaskeays is my home directory. To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.htm

Re: [abcusers] Help - getting ABC files on BarFly

2003-07-24 Thread Tom Keays
on 7/24/03 5:25 AM, Phil Taylor wrote: > The Carbon version of BarFly (because it has to live in a Unix > environment) can open untyped files provided that they have a .abc > or .txt extension, but you won't be able to run that under > BasiliskII. But there is hope, even in Unix. You can set file

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread Tom Keays
Arent Storm wrote: >When trying to fit abcusers in a few groups having >[1] abc-sightreaders (without much need for software) >[2] abc-collectors >[3] abc-software-only-users (1st language) >[4] abc-as- interchange-file-format-users (2nd language) It is also reasonable to assume that many (most?)

Re: [abcusers] New standard(s)

2003-07-21 Thread Tom Keays
Jack Campin writes: > I use A: for the author of the words. This violates the 1.6 spec, > but the "area" idea just doesn't work - you can't fit the geographic > description of a tune into a one-liner. And in another email continues: > Better to use the O: field hierarchically: > > O:Halifax, Nov

[abcusers] !

2003-07-09 Thread Tom Keays
On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 09:11, Bernard Hill wrote: >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes >>> Where does this "bang" thing come from? "!" was always called "shriek" >>> when I were a lad. >From a version of the "New Hacker's Dictionary" http://www.antionline.com/jargon/bang.ph

Re: [abcusers] proposal for developers: modular ABC

2003-07-07 Thread Tom Keays
on 7/7/03 2:03 PM, John Chambers wrote: > This is one of the reasons that I turned jcabc2ps into a normal unix > "filter" that reads stdin if there are no input files. That way I can > stick any sort of preprocessor on the beginning, and not worry about > cleaning up intermediate files. Does abc

Re: [abcusers] BarFly style macros

2003-07-06 Thread Tom Keays
I should also have mentioned that Phil supplies a library of macros that can be selected without you having to explicitly define the macro in the header. For instance the "Norbeck Roll Macros" library says: Henrik Norbeck reckons that rolls should be timed like this, based on experiments with a MI

Re: [abcusers] BarFly style macros

2003-07-06 Thread Tom Keays
on 7/6/03 5:21 PM, Henrik Norbeck wrote: > Phil, I've got a question for you, since I've never tried BarFly myself. > How do you actually treat the macros when it comes to playback > and printing. > m: ~G3=G{A}G{F}G > Is that only for playback? Or do you use it for printing too? You go to Viewer

Re: [abcusers] explicit !break!

2003-07-06 Thread Tom Keays
on 7/6/03 3:33 PM, I. Oppenheim wrote: >> a) There's a lot of ABC already in existence that >> depends on that assumption. > As I said already, I seriously doubt that. Tunes for > which the linebreaks are important for some reason or > another, should make them explicit. No really. Look at all th

Re: [abcusers] Stars and Bangs

2003-07-06 Thread Tom Keays
on 7/6/03 3:16 PM, I. Oppenheim wrote: > \\ will be equivalent to !break! > * will be equivalent to !nobreak! But * is already part of the standard as a right-justified linebreak and I've seen plenty of tunes that use it. Furthermore, \ is already used as a continuation so having \\ as a linebre

Re: [abcusers] Re: Stars and Bangs

2003-07-06 Thread Tom Keays
on 7/6/03 3:03 PM, Jeff Bigler wrote: >> If there exists an explicit linebreak command, there is >> no reason why a bare newline should continue to imply >> a linebreak. > > I can think of two reasons. > > a) There's a lot of ABC already in existence that depends on that > assumption. > > b) It

Re: [abcusers] Re: Stars and Bangs

2003-07-06 Thread Tom Keays
on 7/6/03 2:55 PM, I. Oppenheim wrote: > If there exists an explicit linebreak command, there is > no reason why a bare newline should continue to imply > a linebreak. You're getting away from the original intent of abc and one that most of the musicians in this group, I think, still want to retai

Re: [abcusers] Stars and Bangs

2003-07-06 Thread Tom Keays
on 7/5/03 9:10 PM, John Walsh wrote: > Well, if " \ " is the symbol for continuation, which tells > the program "Don't feel you have to put a linebreak here," > you could have " \\ " for "and I really mean it." I have to admit I haven't taken the time to fully understand all the ins and out of the

Re: [abcusers] source and copyright

2003-03-18 Thread Tom Keays
This discuss has me thinking that there are two conflicting needs at work here. On one hand, as pointed out by John and others, there are already fields in place where copyright related information can be included. On the other hand, represented by Laura and whoever it was that started off this t

Re: [abcusers] abc repository similiar to olga.net?

2003-03-03 Thread Tom Keays
There is Richard Moon's TuneDB which has several thousand tunes in it. It allows searching by name or abc fragment. Very cool. on 3/3/03 3:33 PM, Toby Rider wrote: > Has anyone thought of compiling a centralized database of abc tunes > similar to olga.net.. I fin

[abcusers] Re: abcusers-digest V1 #839

2003-02-05 Thread Tom Keays
John wrote: > > This is feasible right now. If I'd had a PowerBook with its nifty > wireless stuff, could it have handled the task? If so, I could have > also displayed the music on a real screen that people could read, > unlike the tiny window on my cell phone. But look as I might, I ca

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-02-02 Thread Tom Keays
Has anyone ever put together a HOWTO for serving abc, midi, gif, png, and pdf from a server? I know of the various abc projects from sourceforge and elsewhere. I've checked out bits of it casually but haven't really figured out how you get past abc2ps (ie, I see how to get from abc to postscript,

[abcusers] RE: Pocket PC player?

2002-12-10 Thread Tom Keays
Keith wrote: >I seen, and heard, abc player software for Palm PDAs. Are there any out >there for Pocket PC 2002 systems? I'm on this list in digest mode which means that everybody else probably answered this already, but here goes. Steve (?) who created PalmABC said at one point that he was wri