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On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 9:24 PM wrote:
> link?
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> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 28, 2020 7:40 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105
link?
From: Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 7:40 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105
Alpha wireless is putting on a cbrs webinar and cambium will be there,
hopefully the Q is similar to the cambium even, it's worth signing
Alpha wireless is putting on a cbrs webinar and cambium will be there,
hopefully the Q is similar to the cambium even, it's worth signing up for
it
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020, 7:34 PM Mark Radabaugh wrote:
> With the underlying license.
>
> There is something weird there though - a few WinnForum
With the underlying license.
There is something weird there though - a few WinnForum presentations have the
GPWZ’s expiring by 2023. I’m guessing that is when the last of the licenses
that have GWPZ’s expire even though there are NN licenses that last longer.
I’m guessing none of those
Mark,
Do the GPWZ areas expire on April 17th 2020 also? Or they expire whenever
the grandfathered NN license expires?
-sean
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 5:01 PM Mark Radabaugh wrote:
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> > On Jan 27, 2020, at 2:20 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
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> > In theory you could argue that a
> On Jan 27, 2020, at 2:20 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
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> <>
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> In theory you could argue that a grandfathered NN license protects you from
> interference from a CBRS operator, but a person better make sure they don't
> have any of those "bodies in the trunk" if they try to call the FCC for
27, 2020 1:20 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105
In CBRS you'll get higher EIRP, you'll no longer have the +2dbm Tx limit on
mobile devices, and you'll have access to 3x the spectrum. Overall you'd much
rather operate under the CBRS rules
The main
Hmmm, seems like there used to be a trade show about this time of year that did
exactly that.
From: Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 12:24 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105
Cambium matt...
This is why we need more
her bizarre feature of how the FCC has handled this. A
>> license acquired or renewed in 2018 expires in 2020, but one acquired in
>> 2015 runs the full 10 years to 2025? That's just random. How can they not
>> grant extensions if some licenses still have 5 years to run?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of David Coudron
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 10:35 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Sp
10 years to 2025? That's just random. How can they not
>> grant extensions if some licenses still have 5 years to run?
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: AF On Behalf Of David Coudron
>> > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 10:35 AM
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: AF On Behalf Of David Coudron
> > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 10:35 AM
> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105
> >
> > Yes, that is our
> -Original Message-
> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of David Coudron
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 10:35 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> Subject
m Microwave Users Group
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105
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>> > Yes, that is our understanding.
>> >
>> > David Coudron
>> > david.coud...@advantenon.com | Mobile: 612-991-7474
>> >
>> > Advan
malFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105
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> Yes, that is our understanding.
>
> David Coudron
> david.coud...@advantenon.com
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-Original Message-
From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 1:20 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105
In CBRS
oudron
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 10:35 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105
>
> Yes, that is our understanding.
>
> David Coudron
> david.coud...
can they not
> grant extensions if some licenses still have 5 years to run?
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: AF On Behalf Of David Coudron
> > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 10:35 AM
> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> > Subj
ars to run?
-Original Message-
From: AF On Behalf Of David Coudron
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 10:35 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105
Yes, that is our understanding.
David Coudron
david.coud...@advantenon.com | Mobile: 612-991-7474
As it stands now, the FCC hasn't made a decision regarding the waiver for
extending NN licenses past April 17, 2020. Some think that since they
haven't made the decision yet, that could mean they won't grant the waiver.
Historically speaking, most blanket waivers have a low grant percentage. I
-704-4720 | Local: 612-454-1545
-Original Message-
From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 10:52 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105
Apparently there was a window of time where new or renewed licenses
Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105
Yes, that is our understanding.
David Coudron
david.coud...@advantenon.com | Mobile: 612-991-7474
Advantenon, Inc.
i...@advantenon.com | 3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN 55447 |
www.advantenon.com | Phone: 800
> From: AF On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 10:33 AM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105
>
> On 1/27/20 7:20 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
> > yep, and a self fulfilling failure on the part of the FCC.The FC
Message-
From: AF On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 10:33 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105
On 1/27/20 7:20 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
> yep, and a self fulfilling failure on the part of the FCC. The FCC
>
On 1/27/20 7:20 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
yep, and a self fulfilling failure on the part of the FCC. The FCC
looked at the registered CPE and decided that WISP’s were not using the
band without ever considering how badly they fubared the entire
registration process.
You WISP’s don’t need
f Of *dave via AF
> *Sent:* Monday, January 27, 2020 8:47 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Cc:* dave
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105
>
> I guess it would make sense for those who are wanting to have something
> inside the metro areas or places with dense
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>
>
> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf
> Of dave via AF
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 8:47 AM
> To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
> Cc: dave mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>>
> Subject: Re: [
this was not like Part 101 where they are
actually approving your path, frequencies, EIRP, etc. It was more like a
CAPTCHA to prove you could type accurately.
From: AF On Behalf Of dave via AF
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 8:47 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: dave
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum
I guess it would make sense for those who are wanting to have something
inside the metro areas or places with dense population otherwise yes
this is a great opportunity for those who are in the rural areas.
I have both so I am wanting at least 1 pal to secure our future here.
I dont have too
The post about using CBRS as the control channel with 5 GHz LAA was somewhat
disturbing.
All your spectrum are belong to us.
From: AF On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 7:29 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum
10 years of idle time without getting a return on your investment, while the
GAA user use the spectrum for free. Not a winning investment, though there is
a lot of stupid money out there.
Mark
> On Jan 25, 2020, at 9:30 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> So 10 years of idle time means you cannot
ers Group
Date: Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 6:03 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105
that would be the racket, be a sales guy for an equipment vendor, sell the crap
out of cbrs gear to overlapping competitors to get them good and
So 10 years of idle time means you cannot renew. It's definitely an
investors game
On Sat, Jan 25, 2020, 12:02 PM Mark Radabaugh wrote:
> In the interest of getting the ACTUAL rules into this discussion instead
> of just speculation, this is what the FCC rules are on term and renewal
>
In the interest of getting the ACTUAL rules into this discussion instead of
just speculation, this is what the FCC rules are on term and renewal
requirements:
(3) License term: Each PAL has a ten-year license term. Licensees must file
a renewal application in accordance with the provisions
On 1/24/20 3:07 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
You have to actually have gear up, it's not like n license where you
just register. It's got to be live and transmitting, and it's verified
every 4 minutes
Right, someone gets the PALs, does nothing so it's usable as GAA, then
at some point later start
You have to actually have gear up, it's not like n license where you just
register. It's got to be live and transmitting, and it's verified every 4
minutes
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 3:27 PM Seth Mattinen wrote:
> On 1/24/20 12:55, Jason McKemie wrote:
> > Maybe this doesn't work the same way, but
Exactly. I was under the impression that there weren't minimum service
requirements for the CBRS PALs, and if that is the case, then there's
really no incentive to deploy gear they're not going to use.
But an investor could just pick up the PALs and sit on them until the GAA
spectrum is all full,
On 1/24/20 12:55, Jason McKemie wrote:
Maybe this doesn't work the same way, but I've seen big companies deploy
equipment on a band just to hold onto it. There were minimum service
requirements in those situations, but I'm enough of a cynic that I could
see a big company deploying some
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> *From: *"Adam Moffett"
> *To: *af@af.afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, January 23, 2020 2:39:30 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5
y, January 23, 2020 2:39:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105
There have already been cases where a speculator pays people to install
equipment just so they can demonstrate that they're using it while they find a
buyer. They paid for much more expensive equipment than a
Kemie"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 12:33:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105
Is there not going to be a requirement that the companies that buy the spectrum
actually utilize it? If not, that's dumb.
On Thu
that would be the racket, be a sales guy for an equipment vendor, sell the
crap out of cbrs gear to overlapping competitors to get them good and
stuck. then turn up your PAL and offer to lease it to them so they dont
lose customers
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 3:35 PM Mathew Howard wrote:
> I don't
I will have to go look at the final rules to see what happened, I forget
exactly. The original proposal required a new auction every three years.
O’Rielly hated that and managed to get his way with 10 year terms and wanted
substantial service requirements. WISPA pushed back hard on what
I don't see why you would even need to install equipment to squat on the
spectrum. What's to stop you from buying the PAL and sitting on it until
there's enough congestion in GAA that somebody wants it? it doesn't matter
if somebody is already using it as GAA... once you turn on your stuff using
I would hope there is something prohibiting an operator from using the
WISP/Small operator credit to bid on 4 PAL, then turn around and lease it
all to a cellco
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 2:40 PM Adam Moffett wrote:
> There have already been cases where a speculator pays people to install
>
If there were more spectrum, that would make sense. but I watch the
communications in the industry. people planning around having massive
channel size available in a market saturated with free CAF funds and
overbuilds. Im afraid for some of these guys, dumping massive amounts of
debt into their
There have already been cases where a speculator pays people to install
equipment just so they can demonstrate that they're using it while they
find a buyer. They paid for much more expensive equipment than a 3.5ghz AP.
Maybe someone squats all the PAL's in a market until Select Spectrum
If you buy it but don’t operate in it then the spectrum stays as GAA which
anyone can use.
I don’t see it as being a good speculative investment play given that it
returns to GAA unless you are actually using it. In a metro area it might make
sense from an investment perspective but in a
Leave it to the FCC to screw it up for the little guys.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 12:42 PM Steve Jones
wrote:
> You can lease it out, so I doubt it
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 12:33 PM Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> Is there not going to be a requirement that the
You can lease it out, so I doubt it
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 12:33 PM Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
> Is there not going to be a requirement that the companies that buy the
> spectrum actually utilize it? If not, that's dumb.
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 11:08 AM Steve
Is there not going to be a requirement that the companies that buy the
spectrum actually utilize it? If not, that's dumb.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 11:08 AM Steve Jones
wrote:
> Investors are who will be taking the spectrum. HUGE opportunity.
> Commscope is putting together a guidance
> I know
Investors are who will be taking the spectrum. HUGE opportunity.
Commscope is putting together a guidance
I know we will get the credits toward the auction, but I simply dont see us
being able to outbid investors.
unless your in cook county
On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 8:51 PM Jaime Solorza
wrote:
Friend of mine still has some ESMR licenses he leases that he got before
Nextel sold out to Sprint. Great residual income.
On Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 1:36 PM Cameron Crum wrote:
> My opinion, any spectrum you own is valuable and will only increase in
> value. It's like beachfront property, they
My opinion, any spectrum you own is valuable and will only increase in
value. It's like beachfront property, they ain't making any more of it and
communication demands aren't getting any smaller.
On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 9:44 AM Mathew Howard wrote:
> I imagine it depends a lot on the
I imagine it depends a lot on the location... I can't see it having much
value in some areas.
On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 6:41 AM wrote:
> How much do you think it is worth to win some of this spectrum? There are
> some that are trying to form consortiums.
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Then you’d have to rent a warehouse for your spectrum.
From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 8:20 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105
Investor
From: Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Saturday, January
Investor
From: Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 7:01 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105
Interesting question,
>From an operator POV or from an investor POV?
Gino Villarini
Founder/President
@gvillarin
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From: AF on behalf of Chuck McCown
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Date: Saturday, January 18, 2020 at 8:41 AM
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