Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-11 Thread chuck
The jawbone of an ass can be pretty lethal. But so can a properly planted fist to side of your jaw. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 11:43 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns Trees, Ban Trees, They are the root

Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-11 Thread Robert Andrews
Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns The printers aren't the problem, it's the CAD software. Ban that. Wait... but without computers, CAD software can't run. Ban computers! We'll fix this mess right up. On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 12:25 PM, wrote: ban 3d printers

Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-11 Thread chuck
. ) Then, what are they going to ban? High school wood shops? Purchase of wood. All plans for things made of wood. From: can...@believewireless.net Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 10:36 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns The printers aren't the problem

Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-11 Thread Mathew Howard
omputers! We'll fix this mess right up. > > On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 12:25 PM, wrote: > >> ban 3d printers >> they make defective guns >> >> *From:* justsumname >> *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2018 10:31 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *

Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-11 Thread can...@believewireless.net
*Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2018 10:31 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns > > yep be careful: > > https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/10/watch- > man-tests-democrats-claims-pulls-trigger-on-all-plastic-gun-it

Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-11 Thread chuck
ban 3d printers they make defective guns From: justsumname Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 10:31 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns yep be careful: https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/10/watch-man-tests-democrats-claims-pulls

Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-10 Thread justsumname
eless.net > *Sent:* Thursday, August 2, 2018 8:58 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns > > Chuck, I hope this list isn't international... expect a knock on your door > from the FBI from what you just published. > > On Thu

Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-02 Thread chuck
No, we restrict SMTP transmission to only stateside IPs From: can...@believewireless.net Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 8:58 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns Chuck, I hope this list isn't international... expect a knock on your door from

Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-02 Thread can...@believewireless.net
ts of fun to be had without a 3D printer. > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:53 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns > > My biggest real concern about this is idiots, particularly young i

Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-02 Thread chuck
amen -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 7:54 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns I'm lucky that the internet wasn't around when I was a kid. Steve Jones wrote: My biggest real concern about

Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-02 Thread chuck
or marble on the bottom of a shotgun shell and do the same thing. Lots of fun to be had without a 3D printer. From: Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:53 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns My biggest real concern about

Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-02 Thread Jay Weekley
I'd be dead or missing things like eyes, fingers etc. can...@believewireless.net wrote: +1 Jay. I'd definitely be in prison for life. On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Jay Weekley > wrote: I'm lucky that the internet wasn't around when I was a kid.

Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-02 Thread can...@believewireless.net
+1 Jay. I'd definitely be in prison for life. On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: > I'm lucky that the internet wasn't around when I was a kid. > > Steve Jones wrote: > >> My biggest real concern about this is idiots, particularly young idiots, >> like most of us on this list

Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-02 Thread Dave
Im just sayin... Who the hell would want a plastic one when you would only get a few shots of before the barrel melted. Also, I prefer the real deal.. It just feels good to squeeze down on a M4 and put the crosshairs of my Akog on a target at more than 400m and squeeze off a round. Mind u

Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-01 Thread Steve Jones
My biggest real concern about this is idiots, particularly young idiots, like most of us on this list probably were. Printing up the gun on a cheap printer and blowing their hands off because they don't understand the plastic quality matters. Granted, dumb kids like us blew things up with other

Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-01 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/1/18 6:48 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: Yep. There is a reason guns essential parts are made of metal instead of plastic. They will still shoot metal bullets. Print some plastic ones. Problem solved. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-01 Thread Jay Weekley
Yep. There is a reason guns essential parts are made of metal instead of plastic. They will still shoot metal bullets. justsumname wrote: In response to OP: “Regardless of what a person may be able to publish on the Internet, undetectable plastic guns have been illegal for 30 years.

Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-01 Thread Mathew Howard
M > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns > > If the "law" in question is that the export of a 3D printed design is an > ITAR violation, then that's what the discussion (in the courts) should be > about. Having said that, it is my limited u

Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-01 Thread chuck
and legal minded. From: Chuck Macenski Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 5:40 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns If the "law" in question is that the export of a 3D printed design is an ITAR violation, then that's what the discussion (in the cour

Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-01 Thread Chuck Macenski
If the "law" in question is that the export of a 3D printed design is an ITAR violation, then that's what the discussion (in the courts) should be about. Having said that, it is my limited understanding that the judge in the case was more worried about its use inside the US. To me, that seems like

Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-01 Thread Sean Heskett
rights to own and share files. > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 1, 2018 11:31 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns > I am out of here for now ...you open the door I don't want to go in...you > will not

Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-01 Thread Mathew Howard
*From:* Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 1, 2018 10:29 AM > *To:* AFMUG > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns > > Yeah... most people seem to have a very unrealistic idea of what a 3D > printer actually does. I'm pretty sure I can't go buy a cheap 3D printer, &g

Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-01 Thread chuck
for a moment Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters are queens of the world. What would they say I wonder... We can only rent sporks from the restaurant while dining. No sharp pencils allowed? From: Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 10:29 AM To: AFMUG Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing

Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-01 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah... most people seem to have a very unrealistic idea of what a 3D printer actually does. I'm pretty sure I can't go buy a cheap 3D printer, download that file, and have it spit out a functional gun 10 minutes later. If I post instructions on the internet for building a gun out of an old

[AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-01 Thread chuck
I had all of the 3D files for an AR-15 years ago. Widely available for download. Easy to send to a 3D printer or a CNC milling machine. The news is hyping this as something new. I’ll bet those files I downloaded are at least 10 years old. Give me a gun, micrometer, calipers, height gauge