lots of channels per carrier but the antennas are weird, huge and
fussy. And you have to have a different weird huge antenna for each
chain.
*From:* Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Friday, March 26, 2021 10:44 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wireless future
That could happen, but I can't make
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wireless future
That could happen, but I can't make bets on it.
On 3/26/2021 10:36 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
There's the alternative of a modulation technique/method that no one has
figured out yet. Quark spin or something.
bp
On 3/25/2021 7:54 PM, Adam Moffett wrote
ilto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Date: *Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 9:59 AM
*To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Wireless future
Any opinions on where wireless technology will evolve in the
next 5 years?
Date: Thursday, March 25, 2021 at
9:59 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
<af@af.afmug.com>
mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>>
*Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Date: *Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 9:59 AM
*To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Wireless future
A few thoughts on this we may have gotten to where we've gotten...
but... I believe bandwidth usage has plateued. Some will argue with me,
and I might be wrong...
But at some point it is what it is.
4K video? Can you really see 8K? No 4K used to require 30
megabits, now it's
I think smaller cells is where it's at. We're already moving to roof
top installs in town.
But even so, technology has gotten better.
Consider the Alvarion VL radios just 10 years ago. SISO, 54 megabits at
best -- which was about 25 megabits.
Now we're doing MIMO and 150 megabits in a
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From: AF on behalf of Adam Moffett
Date: Friday, March 26, 2021 at 8:06 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wireless future
We are doing lots of fiber. :)
It takes time though.
On 3/26/202
Date: *Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 9:59 AM
*To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Wireless future
Any opinions on where wireless technology will evolve in the
next 5 years?
There's a compound annual growth in demand, and trying t
12x12 MiMo and color coded streams
>>>> for interference mitigation are a big difference maker.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jerry Bickle
>>>>
>>>> President
>>>>
>>>> RF Design Services, LLC
>>>
>>>
>>> Jerry Bickle
>>>
>>> President
>>>
>>> RF Design Services, LLC
>>>
>>> Cell: 405.650.3366
>>>
>>> Fax: 405.330.1310
>>>
>>> Email: je...@rfdesignservices.com
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>>>
Farm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Date: *Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 9:59 AM
*To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Wireless future
Any opinions on where wireless technology will evolve in the
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>>>
>>> Fax: 405.330.1310
>>>
>>> Email: je...@rfdesignservices.com
>>>
>>> WEB: www.rfdesignservices.com
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> *From: *AF on behalf of Adam Moffett
y-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Date: *Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 9:59 AM
*To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Wireless future
Any opinions on where wireless technology will e
>> Jerry Bickle
>>
>> President
>>
>> RF Design Services, LLC
>>
>> Cell: 405.650.3366
>>
>> Fax: 405.330.1310
>>
>> Email: je...@rfdesignservices.com
>>
>> WEB: www.rfdesignservices.com
>>
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>>
>>
erry Bickle
>>
>> President
>>
>> RF Design Services, LLC
>>
>> Cell: 405.650.3366
>>
>> Fax: 405.330.1310
>>
>> Email: je...@rfdesignservices.com
>>
>> WEB: www.rfdesignservices.com
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>
> Email: je...@rfdesignservices.com
>
> WEB: www.rfdesignservices.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *AF on behalf of Adam Moffett <
> dmmoff...@gmail.com>
> *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Date: *Thursday, March 25,
rowave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] Wireless future
Any opinions on where wireless technology will evolve in the next 5 years?
There's a compound annual growth in demand, and trying to think about
how manufacturers will meet that going forward. I'm assuming we can't
count on bigger channels or m
Any opinions on where wireless technology will evolve in the next 5 years?
There's a compound annual growth in demand, and trying to think about
how manufacturers will meet that going forward. I'm assuming we can't
count on bigger channels or more spectrum. So what then? More MU-MIMO
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2020 5:04 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The Future
>
>
>
> Same here. At one point, we just started telling people that DirecTV s
Howard
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 5:04 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future
Same here. At one point, we just started telling people that DirecTV stuff
doesn't work with our service... although I haven't heard of any of those
recently, so it may
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince
> > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 12:04 PM
> > To: af@af.afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future
> >
> > A few years ago, I did some testing with Netflix. I found that it wo
Of Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 12:04 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future
A few years ago, I did some testing with Netflix. I found that it would
"function" down to just under 700 Kbps. For SD quality, about double that, or
1.5 Mbps. For HD, you needed a bit
On 1/24/20 10:58 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
Not personally, but I've seen a post on reddit where someone complained
that his gigabit fiber was only testing at 770mbps, and how come he's
not "getting what he's paying for".
I hate those people so much I just tell them a) you're not paying for a
January 24, 2020 1:22 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future
I love the my internet is not working but netflix is working
Takes some folks a bit for that to soak in.
-Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 11:11 AM
To: '
I had one where Netflix was perfect, email was fine, browsing was fine but
Hulu would not work and we needed to fix that.
-Original Message-
From: Shayne Lebrun
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 11:51 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future
I always
:22 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future
I love the my internet is not working but netflix is working
Takes some folks a bit for that to soak in.
-Original Message-
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 11:11 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future
Yeah, Netflix ability to switch video quality / stream rate on the fly
is actually pretty awesome. I know we all used to bitch about
Netflix, but now I actually hold it up as the gold standard. Does
Netflix work? OK, your
I love the my internet is not working but netflix is working
Takes some folks a bit for that to soak in.
-Original Message-
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 11:11 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future
Yeah, Netflix ability
out his connection, it takes just a few seconds to say it's
Netflix.
-Original Message-
From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 12:04 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future
A few years ago, I did some testing with Netflix. I found that it would
more, video streams will
happily use it.
*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2020 2:29 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFM
om>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2020 2:29 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The Future
we are at the end of the wireless backhaul road. when I
started 15 or
Thursday, January 23, 2020 4:50:44 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future
Exactly. And then you always know the IP of Netflix traffic on your network.
> On Jan 23, 2020, at 5:47 PM, wrote:
>
> Can't you get a netflix box from netflix?
>
> -Original Message- From: Matt H
I would imagine so... I wonder how long Hughes and Viasat will be able to
survive...
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 7:25 PM Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
> I would bet that the lion's share of SpaceX's internet business will be at
> their expense as well. No doubt a few percent
I would bet that the lion's share of SpaceX's internet business will be at
their expense as well. No doubt a few percent is a lot of money, I just
don't believe it will have a major impact on a majority of providers'
customer bases.
On Thursday, January 23, 2020, Adam Moffett wrote:
> Hughes
Hughes and Viasat are minor players and they still make billions. Just
sayin.
On 1/23/2020 8:11 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
I think we're saying similar things differently. Taking the human
species to space / interplanetary is his real goal, not serving a
small percentage of internet customers
I think we're saying similar things differently. Taking the human species
to space / interplanetary is his real goal, not serving a small percentage
of internet customers who either have some niche use or are too rural to
have options other than satellite or slow and/or expensive terrestrial
ry 23, 2020 3:54 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The Future
>>
>> You need enough traffic to justify it, they are not easy to get. You
>> would be better off going to an IX where they exist.
>>
>>
>>
&
-3101
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 5:03 PM wrote:
> I dunno, we got one years ago. Just asked for it.
>
> *From:* Erich Kaiser
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2020 3:54 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The Future
>
> You need e
I dunno, we got one years ago. Just asked for it.
From: Erich Kaiser
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 3:54 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future
You need enough traffic to justify it, they are not easy to get. You would be
better off going to an IX where
anuary 23, 2020 3:42 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Darin Steffl
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future
>
> We have a Netflix CDN... I'm literally trying to get a MikroTik
> consultant who can write a simple queue.
>
> I'm finally just giving up on a consultant an
Microwave Users Group ; Darin Steffl
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future
>
> We have a Netflix CDN... I'm literally trying to get a MikroTik
> consultant who can write a simple queue.
>
> I'm finally just giving up on a consultant and just need to find the
> time to do it mys
Can't you get a netflix box from netflix?
-Original Message-
From: Matt Hoppes
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 3:42 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Darin Steffl
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future
We have a Netflix CDN... I'm literally trying to get a MikroTik
consultant who
on-the-fly and probably not as
efficiently as
>>>> pre-recorded content.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, if the customer has more, video streams
will
>>>> happily use it.
>>
to need at least 2.5M though for HD. So that’s one part of
>> >>>> the answer is HD. Some streaming services, like DirecTV On
>> >>>> Demand, don’t have adaptive video quality and want a minimum
>> >>>> of 5M
the answer is HD. Some streaming services, like DirecTV On
> >>>> Demand, don’t have adaptive video quality and want a minimum
> >>>> of 5M to stream. Another factor is “live” video, which is
> >>>> compressed on-the-fly and pro
*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2020 2:29 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The Future
we are at the end of the wireless backhaul
f Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2020 2:29 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The Future
we are at the end of the wireless backhaul road. when I
started 15 or so years ago, we we
*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2020 2:29 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The Future
we are at the end of the wireless backhaul road.
mug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The Future
we are at the end of the wireless backhaul road. when I
started 15 or so years ago, we were just moving off a
handdful of random T1s to a bonded 6mb circuit backhauling
that was nothing. Now we have two gig circ
happily use it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2020 2:29 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The Future
>>
>>
>>
>> we are at the en
it.
*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2020 2:29 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The Future
we are at the end of the wireless backhaul road. wh
, 2020 2:29 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The Future
we are at the end of the wireless backhaul road. when I started 15 or
so years ago, we were just moving off a handdful of random T1s to a
bonded 6mb circuit backhauling that was nothing. Now we have two gig
> content.
>
>
>
> Of course, if the customer has more, video streams will happily use it.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2020 2:29 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The Future
>
Back in the dial up days my kids would “stream” aka buffer aka download movies
for days and days in order to get them.
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 1:57 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future
I don’t remember ever being able to stream
:29 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future
we are at the end of the wireless backhaul road. when I started 15 or so years
ago, we were just moving off a handdful of random T1s to a bonded 6mb circuit
backhauling that was nothing. Now we have two gig circuits
we are at the end of the wireless backhaul road. when I started 15 or so
years ago, we were just moving off a handdful of random T1s to a bonded 6mb
circuit backhauling that was nothing. Now we have two gig circuits on
separate parts of our network, and we are a tiny WISP in podunk USA.. We
dont
"Elon started it as a project to raise money, yes. Morgan Stanley is up
valuing it because they don't understand technology. This project is not
even close to spacex's purpose for existing. If it disappeared it would not
have any real effect on their overall mission."
This isn't really true.
tall wasn't bad
> Course it was receive only
>
> Sent from my smartphone
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Jason McKemie"
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> Subject: [AFMUG] The Future
> Date: Tue, Jan 21, 2020 3:20 PM
>
> Customer
Sirius/xm customer install wasn't bad
Course it was receive only
Sent from my smartphone
- Reply message -
From: "Jason McKemie"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: [AFMUG] The Future
Date: Tue, Jan 21, 2020 3:20 PM
Customer installed fixed w
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 9:31 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future
I agree, cost is reason number one, although I do think non-linear video
appeals to instant gratification nature as well.
On Tuesday, January 21, 2020, Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com
People say DirecTV is too
> expensive.
>
>
>
> #2 reason is probably binge watching.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 21, 2020 7:33 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The
Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future
Think about how many residential customers no longer have satellite TV. They
don’t like antennas and they like the semi al carte that streaming provides.
With 8K tvs and more content daily the streaming BW is just going to go up and
up
Elon started it as a project to raise money, yes. Morgan Stanley is up
valuing it because they don't understand technology. This project is not
even close to spacex's purpose for existing. If it disappeared it would not
have any real effect on their overall mission.
On Tuesday, January 21, 2020,
um, no, Starlink is now becoming the primary reason for the huge run-up
in valuation for SpaceX...
https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-future-multibillion-dollar-valuation-starlink-internet-morgan-stanley-2019-9
On 1/21/20 4:15 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
The difference being that this is a
usly doubt Musk’s satellite will be able to
> compete with that. Or any so-called 5G provider.
>
> *From:* Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 21, 2020 5:24 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The Future
>
> To qualify that a bit, I'm referring
provider.
From: Jason McKemie
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 5:24 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future
To qualify that a bit, I'm referring to residential users. There may be niche
markets like HFT that will have benefits when using it.
On Tuesday, January 21
To qualify that a bit, I'm referring to residential users. There may be
niche markets like HFT that will have benefits when using it.
On Tuesday, January 21, 2020, Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
> The difference being that this is a side project for one of the main
>
The difference being that this is a side project for one of the main
businesses, not their primary purpose. At best I don't think this is going
to be anything besides a better alternative to other satellite internet
options.
On Tuesday, January 21, 2020, Darin Steffl wrote:
> Guys, lots of
That was back when all the women are strong, all the men are
good-looking, and all the children are above average.
Since then the general population has gotten progressively stupider.
On 1/21/20 5:39 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
The first version of DirecTV was self install, I know because I did
So WiFi from a thing outside the house? That won't work well.
On 1/21/20 6:01 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
Everything is WIFI Now, it probably has a WIFI AP built in, and just
needs a power cord.
On 1/21/2020 4:57 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Yeah... there are certainly plenty of people who can do a
But still do you send a pre-terminated cable? If so how long?
How does the end user get it through a wall? What if they damage an end?
How will they mount this thing? Under an eve? What happens when the
modulation is poor? Crap service? Dragging down the entire bird?
On
Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future
I'm still very wary of this. There seems to be a lot of over-promising under
delivering. In typical Elon fashion, no details but the world runs with it and
puts out all these data models that make it seem like the second coming of
christ
It makes sense that they would be looking at integrating them into Tesla
cars though. Paying AT for a 3G/4G connection to every Tesla presumably
takes a decent amount of money, which I'm sure they'd much rather be giving
to SpaceX.
As in the kind of backhaul a WISP would want... yeah, I doubt
ave Users Group"
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 4:56:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future
Guys, lots of misinformation here.
They are NO plans nor hints of integrating Starlink antennas into Tesla cars.
It may happen but no one has hinted of this happening. All Tesla's have 3G or
4G
Yeah... there are certainly plenty of people who can do a self install just
fine, but there's a reason that Directv and Dish Network both shifted away
from self installs after the first couple of years... well, several
reasons, including that aligning the antennas got a lot more complicated,
but
Guys, lots of misinformation here.
They are NO plans nor hints of integrating Starlink antennas into Tesla
cars. It may happen but no one has hinted of this happening. All Tesla's
have 3G or 4G modems already built-in to them along with WiFi. Updates are
sent via WiFi first and after the fleet
Can you link that? What exactly were they testing?
On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 2:36 PM Robert Andrews
wrote:
> Somehow they passed a first review from US DOD... Can't be all smoke
> and mirrors in space...
>
> On 01/21/2020 12:18 PM, Ryan Ray wrote:
> > I'm still very wary of this. There seems
--
*From: *"Matt Hoppes" mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Sent: *Tuesday, January 21, 2020 2:49:50 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] The Future
OK but are these phas
The first version of DirecTV was self install, I know because I did it.
They had many many thousands of successful self installs the first two
years with just a flashing led to guide you. They are planning on
having the CPE's integrated into the roofs of Tesla cars in the future.
They
Hrm...
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Ryan Ray"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 4:22:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG]
erswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Matt Hoppes"
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 21, 2020 2:49:50 PM
>
> *Subject: *Re:
Yeah... but a customer's idea of a clear view of the sky, is throwing it
under a bush, and stringing the cable through the goat pen. The only
problem that the phased antenna solves is needing to align it properly, and
that isn't even the biggest problem with self installs.
Sure, there are people
Don't forget they want to run updates on the millions of Tesla
BEVs that will be roaming around. The CPE is not necessarily
fixed.
bp
On 1/21/2020 1:39 PM, Mathew Howard
wrote:
The CPE end is fixed, in that the
That’s the idea behind the phased antennas though. Once it has a clear line
to the sky, the amount of sats and the motors inside apparently make it a
set and forget type thing.
They’ll still need to run cat5 outside and have a router I assume, but who
knows. Maybe they’ll do some sort of power
The CPE end is fixed, in that the antenna is mounted, and doesn't move.
Unless it's something that you can throw on a desk and plug into an outlet,
self install simply isn't realistic.
Dish Network offered a self install option early on (back when they were
only using a single satellite, and it
Ground to LEO isn't fixed wireless. The "tower" is moving and the client
is roaming.
On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 3:21 PM Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
> Customer installed fixed wireless doesn't work well. I'm sure they'll
> figure this out too late, I still don't
Because it sounds like a great idea. I have seen numerous companies try this
and every single time it has failed miserably
> On Jan 21, 2020, at 4:20 PM, Jason McKemie
> wrote:
>
> Customer installed fixed wireless doesn't work well. I'm sure they'll figure
> this out too late, I still don't
Customer installed fixed wireless doesn't work well. I'm sure they'll
figure this out too late, I still don't understand why big companies refuse
to learn from other's mistakes.
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> ------
> *From: *fiber...@mail.com
> *To: *af@af.afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 21, 2020 3:03:01 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] The Future
>
> On Tuesday, January 21, 2020 Mike Hammett wrote:
> > I would bet that SpaceX wil
Yeah... if they do try to go with the self install model, I would bet
they'll abandon that idea pretty quickly... just like everybody else has.
On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 2:50 PM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
> OK but are these phased array antennas like beam steering well
With the number they are expecting to install, it almost doesn't
matter what the actual cost is. I doubt there will be any moving
parts either.
They now have something on the order of 170 birds in orbit, with
another 60 due in another week or so. The first 50 were
-
From: fiber...@mail.com
To: af@af.afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 3:03:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future
On Tuesday, January 21, 2020 Mike Hammett wrote:
> I would bet that SpaceX will collect more money from HFT than from anything
> else they sell via Starlink for a lon
On Tuesday, January 21, 2020 Mike Hammett wrote:
> I would bet that SpaceX will collect more money from HFT than from anything
> else they sell via Starlink for a long time.
Starlink has yet to demonstrate that they can hit latencies required for HFT.
My money is on backhaul to sites without
21, 2020 2:49:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future
OK but are these phased array antennas like beam steering well they have
stepper motors in them? Because the moment you add motors you had parts that
are going to break sooner or later.
Plus if we really think that a self inst
OK but are these phased array antennas like beam steering well they have
stepper motors in them? Because the moment you add motors you had parts that
are going to break sooner or later.
Plus if we really think that a self install is going to work for a customer I
think we are giving the
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To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 2:45:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future
"Customer CPE is a pizza box ufo <$200 and they are starting in 2020, but
there's no pictures or details. How is that even possible? We're buying 45
"Customer CPE is a pizza box ufo <$200 and they are starting in 2020, but
there's no pictures or details. How is that even possible? We're buying
450b at a more expensive cost and there ain't no phased antenna with motors
in it."
The question is what do the parts or materials actually cost in
I'm still very wary of this. There seems to be a lot of over-promising
under delivering. In typical Elon fashion, no details but the world runs
with it and puts out all these data models that make it seem like the
second coming of christ. Customer CPE is a pizza box ufo <$200 and they are
starting
Actually seen that done LOL!
On 1/20/20 12:43 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:
Seth,
That's the equivalent of putting a Linksys router in a Tupperware
container and calling yourself a WISP.
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Best regards,
Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com
Myakka
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