[AFMUG] Micropop at a HAM

2016-04-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
We have this little cluster we have not been able to penetrate well even with 900mhz, its got maybe 12-15 houses, weve only been able to get three out of maybe 7 we have been called to service. There is also a business there that would get our top non DIA rate, but nobody there would want to invest

Re: [AFMUG] Small ePMP AP

2016-04-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Yep From: George Skorup Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 6:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small ePMP AP 2GHz to light? On 4/15/2016 2:21 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: At any frequency. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 12:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [

Re: [AFMUG] RF Elements Symmetrical Horns vs Traditional Sectors

2016-04-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I like them even more because like everything, we pushed it too far, we decided on epmp for offloading the short LOS customers. was supposed to be a 2 mile limit with an assumption wed push it to 4. with the cambium sectors we are consistently hitting 6-8 miles and sidelobing the shit out of it, go

Re: [AFMUG] RF Elements Symmetrical Horns vs Traditional Sectors

2016-04-15 Thread Stefan Englhardt
If your sectors are crowded this is a good additional antenna to offload some nearby customers. Small compared to a sector good fb ratio and sharp edges to reduce interference. 30 degree makes most sense. They are built solid compared to other rf elements antennas. Ursprüngliche

Re: [AFMUG] ot: this is our priority?

2016-04-15 Thread Mathew Howard
That sounds perfect! On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 9:53 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > You want to be head of the department of bribery and skullduggery? Im > going to need a good man in that spot, need to get set up to take payments > from cash to bitcoin to farmers da

Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

2016-04-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
ther may be ftc regulations that would create a criminal liability for processors allowing kiting On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 8:05 PM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI) < t...@franklinisp.net> wrote: > My 2 cents: > > Who cares! The merchant gets their damn money. Unless you have some kind >

Re: [AFMUG] ot: this is our priority?

2016-04-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
You want to be head of the department of bribery and skullduggery? Im going to need a good man in that spot, need to get set up to take payments from cash to bitcoin to farmers daughters. Its all about ensuring a fluid customer experience On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 8:39 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > T

Re: [AFMUG] RF Elements Symmetrical Horns vs Traditional Sectors

2016-04-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
these will be the bees knees for hitting the near customers on epmp On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 9:06 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > Yes... and Ubiquiti sectors certainly don't have the best F/B ratio. But a > cleaner pattern doesn't necessarily mean it's going to perform better... in > some (maybe even

Re: [AFMUG] RF Elements Symmetrical Horns vs Traditional Sectors

2016-04-15 Thread Mathew Howard
Yes... and Ubiquiti sectors certainly don't have the best F/B ratio. But a cleaner pattern doesn't necessarily mean it's going to perform better... in some (maybe even most) cases, yes, in other cases, no. On Apr 15, 2016 8:55 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > F/B is normally pretty bad on most sector

Re: [AFMUG] RF Elements Symmetrical Horns vs Traditional Sectors

2016-04-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
F/B is normally pretty bad on most sectors. Cleaner on horns. Panels being worse in every way than either horn or sector. On Apr 15, 2016 8:52 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > It is important to note how sloppy a sector is in the gain it achieves. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing S

Re: [AFMUG] RF Elements Symmetrical Horns vs Traditional Sectors

2016-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
It is important to note how sloppy a sector is in the gain it achieves. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mathew Howard" To: "af" Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 8:47:40 PM Subject: R

Re: [AFMUG] RF Elements Symmetrical Horns vs Traditional Sectors

2016-04-15 Thread Mathew Howard
I imagine it'll depend on how you're measuring performance. If larger vertical beamwidth and cleaner edges are important in your deployment, it's going to perform better... If you're doing longer distance, lower density shots where you want as much gain as possible, and vertical beamwidth isn't imp

Re: [AFMUG] Telrad specs

2016-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Right, 10 MHz licenses for sure. I believe the SAS knows about equipment capability and could handle whatever size the equipment had to work with. Future equipment won't necessarily have the adjacent channel requirements to act as one. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] Telrad specs

2016-04-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
The SAS doesn't even exist yet, right? Seems like the FCC got paralyzed for awhile by Carrier desire to use 3.65 for LTE-U On Apr 15, 2016 8:43 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > OK, fair warning, I am going by memory, but I thought the FCC was very > specific that PALs would be 10 MHz licenses. > > So if

Re: [AFMUG] Telrad specs

2016-04-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
OK, fair warning, I am going by memory, but I thought the FCC was very specific that PALs would be 10 MHz licenses. So if you had 2 PALs in the same area, or were using GAA, could you request and receive a 20 MHz contiguous allocation from the SAS? I guess maybe, although I would be very surpr

Re: [AFMUG] ot: this is our priority?

2016-04-15 Thread Mathew Howard
That should do it. selling the plan to the legislative branch should be easy enough, just offer them a cut. I'd also like to get in early and request a cabinet position... I don't need a cut of the profits, just a job that isn't to much work but has plenty of opportunities for accepting bribes. On

Re: [AFMUG] 80 GHz manufacturers

2016-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Yup. Some were added to a rooftop I'm on somewhat recently. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Eric Kuhnke" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 4:32:18 PM Subject: Re: [AFM

Re: [AFMUG] RF Elements Symmetrical Horns vs Traditional Sectors

2016-04-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
Marketing, for one. That said, it depends on your deployment needs. A horn will have a much larger vertical beamwidtg and cleaner edges, but this is at the cost of gain. OTOH, the larger the gain, the larger the antenna. This is all just general antenna stuff, is there some metric or reasoning

[AFMUG] RF Elements Symmetrical Horns vs Traditional Sectors

2016-04-15 Thread Keefe John
So RF Elements claims their 90 degree 10 dbi symmetrical horn performs better than a traditional UBNT 90 degree 20 dbi sector. How and why? Keefe

[AFMUG] Looking for Trango parts

2016-04-15 Thread George Skorup
Anybody have any of the old ApexPlus OMU interface covers (with the thumb screws and cable feed-thru's)? I need four of the older style that are rectangular, not the new ones where one side is rounded. Haven't asked Trango yet. Wanted to see if anyone has some laying around first.

Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

2016-04-15 Thread Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)
My 2 cents: Who cares! The merchant gets their damn money. Unless you have some kind of charge back history, it's stupid. The only thing I will say, as an outsider, if you did it for the rewards perk...why? Doesn't the reward get off set by the merchant fees? It's a wash. If the intent w

Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

2016-04-15 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I believe ip pay charges a fixed discount rate. It could be that they are taking a loss on some transactions and making it up on others. If this is the case I can see why they might have a problem if the interchange rate on this transaction was higher than normal. Somehow I suspect a processor whi

Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

2016-04-15 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
Just not getting the logic why they wouldn't want to process a $20k charge, why does the merchant care? Have they created a model where they're losing money? Thanks, `S --- Sent mobile, typed by thumbs. On Apr 15, 2016, at 16:10, Sterling Jacobson mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote: Yeah, n

Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

2016-04-15 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
Yeah, the initial call to Cap1 was not so much a pre auth as verifying this was OK with their ToS. Thanks, `S --- Sent mobile, typed by thumbs. On Apr 15, 2016, at 15:56, Travis Johnson mailto:t...@ida.net>> wrote: This seems like it was a lot of work and issues and headaches (phone calls g

Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

2016-04-15 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
It's not the alarm from IP Pay that was an issue, it's how it was handled. Out of 10's of 1,000's of transactions from multiple companies I've never had the processor act in this way, the ISSUING BANK yes, but not the processor. Just to clarify, the issuing bank who's money was being processed,

Re: [AFMUG] Small ePMP AP

2016-04-15 Thread George Skorup
2GHz to light? On 4/15/2016 2:21 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: At any frequency. *From:* Josh Luthman *Sent:* Friday, April 15, 2016 12:30 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small ePMP AP At 100 GHz? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2

Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

2016-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
I assume the merchant takes it in the shorts for more than whatever the reward offers. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, April

Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

2016-04-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
maybe its a 5% cashback, i remember when my discover card had that On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: > Well, after thinking about this more... he gave up 3% in the processing > fees with IPPay... so really, it was a negative deal... so how many > cheeseburgers is that? :) >

Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

2016-04-15 Thread Travis Johnson
Well, after thinking about this more... he gave up 3% in the processing fees with IPPay... so really, it was a negative deal... so how many cheeseburgers is that? :) Travis On 4/15/2016 4:57 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I dunno, $400 is a lot of cheeseburgers. *From:* Travis Johnson

Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

2016-04-15 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Yeah, nice trick, but not surprised IPPay handled it that way. The way I use IPPay its really expected a bunch of low monthly charges. $20k charge on my own card for rewards? Probably not something the merchants or card company cares for. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Trav

Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

2016-04-15 Thread Chuck McCown
I dunno, $400 is a lot of cheeseburgers. From: Travis Johnson Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 4:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services This seems like it was a lot of work and issues and headaches (phone calls getting pre-auths, then calling again to double check, etc) all

Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

2016-04-15 Thread Travis Johnson
This seems like it was a lot of work and issues and headaches (phone calls getting pre-auths, then calling again to double check, etc) all to get cashback rewards that probably equated to less than $400. Your time should be worth more than that as the CEO of a company. Travis On 4/15/2016

Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

2016-04-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I would be appreciative for a doublecheck on a 20k transaction, assuming that is not a normal transaction for that card, I can imagine if you had been robbed of 20k you would be pissed they didnt flag it, having 20k tied up would be worse than a delayed transaction. The verification call was compl

Re: [AFMUG] Dummy switch

2016-04-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
intellinet are cheap dumb switches, never had any issue with them, even have a couple out in the field for years because they have been tossed in in emergencies and never presented a problem to justify return trips to those sites, they make good surge protectors On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Er

Re: [AFMUG] ot: this is our priority?

2016-04-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Im legalizing pot, therefore i will win On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > Since your kleptocracy platform won't be popular, what story will you tell > in order to get elected? > > How will you sell your plan to the legislative branch who will actually > have to make it law?

Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

2016-04-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I really don't see how paying yourself $20k with your own card is NOT going to set off all sorts of automated fraud alerts. This is what any responsible card processor would do. On Apr 15, 2016 1:43 PM, "Scott Vander Dussen" wrote: > I’ve received a few off-list request for my story and a couple

Re: [AFMUG] Dummy switch

2016-04-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I've had good results with an eight port ASUS, not sure what chipset is in it. Seems a bit higher quality than the really cheap Taiwanese models. On Apr 15, 2016 10:44 AM, "Brian Sullivan" wrote: > Looking for the best 5-8 port dummy switch that wont break the bank. < > $100 > Tried TP-Link and

Re: [AFMUG] 80 GHz manufacturers

2016-04-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Missed one more aoptix The people with the gargantuan 80+laser product. Used by some HFT links (ANOVA) in new york and NJ. On Apr 15, 2016 10:34 AM, "Daniel White" wrote: > Aviat > > Huawei > > Lightpointe > > > > Daniel White > > Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales > > ConVergence

Re: [AFMUG] 80 GHz manufacturers

2016-04-15 Thread Daniel White
Very much so. They got into the low latency game and are/were doing very well. Daniel White Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales ConVergence Technologies Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 dwh...@converge-tech.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]

Re: [AFMUG] 80 GHz manufacturers

2016-04-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Lightpointe is still alive and shipping product? On Apr 15, 2016 10:34 AM, "Daniel White" wrote: > Aviat > > Huawei > > Lightpointe > > > > Daniel White > > Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales > > ConVergence Technologies > > Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 > > dwh...@converge-tech.com > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

2016-04-15 Thread Josh Luthman
That is a clever trick... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Keefe John wrote: > I've run into this before. > > Credit card companies do not like it if you run your own card. Amex threw > a fit when I

Re: [AFMUG] AlfoPlus2

2016-04-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Well yeah, I guess that's what I was trying to say. Just think of the 4096 as a bonus, it's nice when it's in that nodulation, but realistically any FDD throughout claims in Mbps from a marketing department are closer to fluff than operational reality. On Apr 15, 2016 2:15 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote

Re: [AFMUG] AlfoPlus2

2016-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
I can take a 4096 radio, add engineering and come up with a 1024 performing radio (or a 4096 performing radio). I can't turn a 1024 radio into a 4096 radio. Radio, antenna and band selection as appropriate for the uptime at performance levels required. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Compu

Re: [AFMUG] AlfoPlus2

2016-04-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Keeping in mind 4096qam requires a really high RSL like -50, so it's better to think of it as a 1024qam radio. Don't engineer link capacity needs based on 80MHz wide 4096... It'll be in 4096 maybe 99.5% of the year. Done right it can be in 1024 at five nines. On Apr 15, 2016 11:39 AM, "Mike Hammet

Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

2016-04-15 Thread Keefe John
I've run into this before. Credit card companies do not like it if you run your own card. Amex threw a fit when I did it once. Keefe On 4/15/2016 3:43 PM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote: I’ve received a few off-list request for my story and a couple here on-list. I don’t mind sharing, I just

Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

2016-04-15 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
I’ve received a few off-list request for my story and a couple here on-list. I don’t mind sharing, I just didn’t want to come out with a rant about IPPay because that wasn’t my goal. I share this experience because I really value this list and the contributions made by all you wonderful people

Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

2016-04-15 Thread Keefe John
sonar, whmcs, just about everything. https://www.bluepay.com/developers/payment-modules/ On 4/15/2016 3:20 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Never heard of them. Does anything integrate with them? Kinda pointless if you can't use it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

2016-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Never heard of them. Does anything integrate with them? Kinda pointless if you can't use it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Keefe John" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, April 15, 2

Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

2016-04-15 Thread Keefe John
Bluepay has better rates than IPPay. On 4/15/2016 1:02 PM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote: Without all the nasty details, I'm completely done doing business with IPPay. Any recommendations for alternatives? Thanks, 'S Sent mobile!

Re: [AFMUG] AlfoPlus2

2016-04-15 Thread Peter Kranz
112 Mhz.. your right.. gets you there.. Has anyone been able to swing this approach to deploy 112Mhz channels in the US..? Seems like you could use 4x30Mhz channels From FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION 47 CFR Parts 1, 2, 74, 78, and 101 [WT Docket No. 04–143; FCC 06–141] Rechanneliz

Re: [AFMUG] Looks like 60GHz may be our next frontier

2016-04-15 Thread Stefan Englhardt
There is 802.11ad. A wifi standard. Should help to make 60 GHZ popular. Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: Rory Conaway Datum: 15.04.2016 20:29 (GMT+01:00) An: af@afmug.com Betreff: [AFMUG] Looks like 60GHz may be our next frontier

Re: [AFMUG] Procera CG NAT

2016-04-15 Thread SmarterBroadband
What kind of price is the smallest model (10Gbps Full Duplex)? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 8:19 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera CG NAT https://www.corero.com/products/corero-smartwall-threat-defense-system.h

Re: [AFMUG] Small ePMP AP

2016-04-15 Thread chuck
At any frequency. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 12:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small ePMP AP At 100 GHz? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 2:24 PM, wrote: Open waveguide

Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

2016-04-15 Thread chuck
I would like to know too... From: Jason Wilson Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 12:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services Scott, I am an IPPay client, email privately your decision to move. Jason Jason Wilson Remotely Located Providing High Speed Internet to out of the

Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

2016-04-15 Thread Jeremy
Aw, come on! We all love nasty details here. I'm also an IP-Pay customerand a happy one thus far. Just make sure to put "in my opinion..." first. I think that will save you from a libel suit. On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Same. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Int

Re: [AFMUG] Dummy switch

2016-04-15 Thread Paul McCall
☺ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 3:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dummy switch Oh shit here we go again... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 15,

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone service

2016-04-15 Thread Rory Conaway
Forget it. They found DSL. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 12:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Does anyone service 3000 Green Valley Dr., Cameron Park, Ca. Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoe

Re: [AFMUG] Dummy switch

2016-04-15 Thread Josh Luthman
Oh shit here we go again... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > Obama, but that ship has sailed J > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sen

Re: [AFMUG] Dummy switch

2016-04-15 Thread Bill Prince
It's what I call a self-correcting problem. Most things are self-correcting, including climate change. You just have to adjust your time frame. bp On 4/15/2016 12:07 PM, Paul McCall wrote: Obama, but that ship has sailed J *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammet

[AFMUG] Does anyone service

2016-04-15 Thread Rory Conaway
3000 Green Valley Dr., Cameron Park, Ca. Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net "In Baseball Heaven...The balls in the batting cage pick

Re: [AFMUG] Dummy switch

2016-04-15 Thread Paul McCall
Obama, but that ship has sailed ☺ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 2:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dummy switch Let's start with what isn't meeting expectations? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] Dummy switch

2016-04-15 Thread Brian Sullivan
One type we would see some packet loss and the other, our router reported CRC errors. Remove switch and problem gone, but so are the other devices. Traffic is below 200Mbps. On 4/15/2016 1:35 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Let's start with what isn't meeting expectations? - Mike Hammett Intel

Re: [AFMUG] AlfoPlus2

2016-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Well, what do they get at a 112 MHz channel instead of an 80 MHz channel? Europe has 112 MHz channels available now. Before, SIAE had some very good spec sheets, so ask for them. I also think they can do 4096QAM? 4096 QAM and 112 MHz channels might get you there. - Mike Hammett Inte

Re: [AFMUG] Dummy switch

2016-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Let's start with what isn't meeting expectations? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Brian Sullivan" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 12:44:09 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Dummy

Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

2016-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Same. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jason Wilson" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 1:22:03 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services Scott, I am an IPPay client

Re: [AFMUG] Small ePMP AP

2016-04-15 Thread Josh Luthman
At 100 GHz? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 2:24 PM, wrote: > Open waveguides have about 10 dB gain and about a 50 degree pattern. > > *From:* Josh Reynolds > *Sent:* Friday, April 15, 2016 10:47 AM > *To:*

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix and MPLS

2016-04-15 Thread Carl Peterson
We have tons of MPLS circuits going through Netonix switches. I seem to remember having to do odd MTU calcs but that could just be cisco-juniper. In any case, if your doing MPLS your likely looking at the MTUs along the path anyway. On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Stefan Englhardt wrote: > Wo

[AFMUG] Looks like 60GHz may be our next frontier

2016-04-15 Thread Rory Conaway
http://www2.imec.be/be_en/press/imec-news/60ghz-beamforming-tranceiver-28nmcmos.html Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net "In Baseball He

Re: [AFMUG] Dummy switch

2016-04-15 Thread David
Zyxel switches. We use the 8 port ones and they are solid. Used to to trendnet, but would need a reset once a year or so. Sucks when they are behind a desk or a wall you cant get to. On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:07 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Ubiquiti toughswitch 5 port? Like $80. Not "dumb" though

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix and MPLS

2016-04-15 Thread Stefan Englhardt
Works. You need to set MTU on all participating ports. Then netonix just passes the packets through. Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: Michael Gawlowski Datum: 15.04.2016 20:16 (GMT+01:00) An: af@afmug.com Betreff: [AFMUG] Netonix and MPLS

Re: [AFMUG] Small ePMP AP

2016-04-15 Thread chuck
Open waveguides have about 10 dB gain and about a 50 degree pattern. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 10:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small ePMP AP I like the horn design because they're very clean as far as antenna coverage goes, and they're also good for cove

Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

2016-04-15 Thread Jason Wilson
Scott, I am an IPPay client, email privately your decision to move. Jason Jason Wilson Remotely Located Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 530-651-1736 530-748-9608 Cell www.remotelylocated.com On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Authorize.net? > > O

[AFMUG] Netonix and MPLS

2016-04-15 Thread Michael Gawlowski
Anyone have experience passing an MPLS circuit through a Netonix? We have 1G fiber from the provider and would like to run that into the Netonix and out the 48v POE port to the customer but it will not pass traffic. I have this working through a Mikrotik (without POE) by putting the SFP and an

Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

2016-04-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
Authorize.net? On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote: > Without all the nasty details, I'm completely done doing business with IPPay. > Any recommendations for alternatives? > > Thanks, > 'S > > Sent mobile!

Re: [AFMUG] Dummy switch

2016-04-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
Ubiquiti toughswitch 5 port? Like $80. Not "dumb" though I wouldn't recommend the 5 or 8 port for serious WISP core use, but they are decent edge devices. On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Brian Sullivan wrote: > Looking for the best 5-8 port dummy switch that wont break the bank. < $100 > Trie

Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

2016-04-15 Thread Josh Luthman
Propay? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote: > Without all the nasty details, I'm completely done doing business with > IPPay. Any recommendations for alternatives? > > Thanks,

[AFMUG] Merchant services

2016-04-15 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
Without all the nasty details, I'm completely done doing business with IPPay. Any recommendations for alternatives? Thanks, 'S Sent mobile!

Re: [AFMUG] Dummy switch

2016-04-15 Thread Josh Luthman
For 5 and 8 port switches I've always gotten the cheapest on Newegg. Rosewill is the brand I last bought. They work extremely well for their price and work "good enough" for most cases. At a tower I'd suggest an RB750 for the additional capability. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-

Re: [AFMUG] AlfoPlus2

2016-04-15 Thread Keefe John
What's the price? Maybe they're talking aggregate throughput. Keefe On 4/15/2016 12:47 PM, Peter Kranz wrote: Has anyone worked with the SIAE AlfoPlus2 yet? They promise �ALFOplus2 full outdoor solution offers 2Gbps guaranteed throughput, enabling successful launch of LTE, by providing be

Re: [AFMUG] Dummy switch

2016-04-15 Thread George Skorup
MikroTik 750? I guess all you can get now is the Hex/750Gr2. On 4/15/2016 12:44 PM, Brian Sullivan wrote: Looking for the best 5-8 port dummy switch that wont break the bank. < $100 Tried TP-Link and Trendnet with poor results.

[AFMUG] AlfoPlus2

2016-04-15 Thread Peter Kranz
Has anyone worked with the SIAE AlfoPlus2 yet? They promise "ALFOplus2 full outdoor solution offers 2Gbps guaranteed throughput, enabling successful launch of LTE, by providing best TCO while boosting capacity and availability of the network." And "first full outdoor supporting up to two ch

[AFMUG] Dummy switch

2016-04-15 Thread Brian Sullivan
Looking for the best 5-8 port dummy switch that wont break the bank. < $100 Tried TP-Link and Trendnet with poor results.

Re: [AFMUG] 80 GHz manufacturers

2016-04-15 Thread Daniel White
Aviat Huawei Lightpointe Daniel White Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales ConVergence Technologies Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 dwh...@converge-tech.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Thursday, April 14, 20

[AFMUG] for sale, brand new items.

2016-04-15 Thread David
*Rocket dish Radome's*. Ubiquiti brand. 3ft and 2ft. Brand new. I have approximately 15 of each size to sell. Will sell cheap. Make an offer. I have too many! *AirFiber 2X* - I have a pair brand new in box. Never used. $425 each *Netonix 12 port DC switch. WS-12-250-DC

Re: [AFMUG] ot: this is our priority?

2016-04-15 Thread Adam Moffett
Since your kleptocracy platform won't be popular, what story will you tell in order to get elected? How will you sell your plan to the legislative branch who will actually have to make it law? I just don't know if this plan has been thought through very thoroughly. https://youtu.be/93B072j-E3

Re: [AFMUG] Small ePMP AP

2016-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Micro POPs, urban deployments, etc. I'm assuming once you leave the horn design they're using, you no longer have that clean pattern, which then defeats the purpose. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Mess

Re: [AFMUG] ot: this is our priority?

2016-04-15 Thread Glen Waldrop
I want to get in first and ask to be VP with a cut of the profits... From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 11:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ot: this is our priority? Thats just stupid. When Im president, I will just do away with that funny business. Im still

Re: [AFMUG] Small ePMP AP

2016-04-15 Thread Mathew Howard
Right, but most of the time I don't care about, or even want a 90 degree vertical beam. I can definitely see a lot of potential for 50 degree and under horns, but I just can't see a lot of practical uses for the 90 with such low gain. On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Peopl

Re: [AFMUG] Small ePMP AP

2016-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
People seem to forget that gain is inversely proportional to coverage area. A sector that moves the vertical beamwidth from 4 degrees to 90 degrees will have a very detrimental effect on gain. That said, the lack of gain everywhere outside of the intended area is non-existent, meaning much low

Re: [AFMUG] ot: this is our priority?

2016-04-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Well, I learned something. I just assume all content was only delivered to the service provider, and then the service provider handed it to the consumer via their delivery infrastructure. That would make more sense to me. I just never saw entertainment (internet included) as being something worth

Re: [AFMUG] ot: this is our priority?

2016-04-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Thats just stupid. When Im president, I will just do away with that funny business. Im still going to raise taxes to 90 percent, but im not redistributing that to anybody but me. I dont know much about the cable tv industry or its actual infrastructure obviously On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:45 AM

Re: [AFMUG] ot: this is our priority?

2016-04-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
It IS delivered to the customer via the ISP, but it's encrypted due to content / rebroadcast rights blah blah blah On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:44 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: > Well, I learned something. I just assume all content was only delivered to > the service provider, and then the servi

Re: [AFMUG] Small ePMP AP

2016-04-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
I like the horn design because they're very clean as far as antenna coverage goes, and they're also good for covering both close in customers as well as several miles out. Much better than a standard sector. Also they're small "A F", but solidly built. Low wind load means you can put more of them

Re: [AFMUG] ot: this is our priority?

2016-04-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
It's a bit of a mess really. You have inbound content feeds or peering, which is often encrypted. This hits their different "content servers" in your network that you often have no control over. A customer ONT has a list of channels and encryption keys programmed into it, and it sends off a bunch

[AFMUG] FSK Radios For Sale - 900Mhz, 5Ghz, 2.4Ghz $15 Each

2016-04-15 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
It's Friday. Back room is overflowing with FSK gear coming in from the upgrades. P9s-P10s All $15 each. Off list if you need some Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.

Re: [AFMUG] ot: this is our priority?

2016-04-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
maybe i misunderstand how this works, I assumed the service provider gets the content, however they get the content, then delivers the content on their own system to the set top box. Are you saying the content provider delivers the content directly to the consumer set top box currently just transit

Re: [AFMUG] Small ePMP AP

2016-04-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
They're great for 802.11ac style micropops Good vertical coverage though, much better than a sector. Clean beamwidth / edges. On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > It's another option anyway =) > > I'm kind of liking the horn antenna, but the gain is low. A 90* is only > 10dbi

Re: [AFMUG] Procera CG NAT

2016-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
I started down that road and didn't get as far as I wanted before ADHD set in. In the carrier hotel where bandwidth is plenty and cheap, I'd recommend a box if you can find them for under the $250k I was quoted, but still have a service on retainer for something bigger than you can handle.

Re: [AFMUG] Small ePMP AP

2016-04-15 Thread Josh Luthman
It's another option anyway =) I'm kind of liking the horn antenna, but the gain is low. A 90* is only 10dbi but a 40* is 16dbi. Or the 50* at 14dbi. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Jeremy wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Small ePMP AP

2016-04-15 Thread Jeremy
Nevermind, I missed the "short of buying a connectorized AP" part. Also, these are small in physical size, but not so much in beamwidth. On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Jeremy wrote: > AM-M-V5G-TI > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Gino Villarini > wrote: > >> ebay is your friend >> >> On

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