Re: [AFMUG] Pricing for Managed Customer Routers?

Instead of support costs, have a revenue stream. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 2, 2016 12:03 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" wrote: > Hmmm, 90 percent take rate on a fiber network for the 844E sounds tempting. > > > > I still haven’

[AFMUG] ePMP event June 07

Anybody here going to the ePMP 2000 launch event next week? http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP/ePMP-event-June-07-register-now/td-p/54590

Re: [AFMUG] Pricing for Managed Customer Routers?

We are doing $8 From: Craig Schmaderer Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pricing for Managed Customer Routers? We started doing it on our fiber network with 844E and we have over a 90% take rate at $7. The only mistake I made was starting at $7 :)

Re: [AFMUG] Pricing for Managed Customer Routers?

Who is "we"??? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > We are doing $8 > > *From:* Craig Schmaderer > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:00 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [A

Re: [AFMUG] Pricing for Managed Customer Routers?

The ILEC I manage. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 8:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pricing for Managed Customer Routers? Who is "we"??? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 10:27 A

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP event June 07

I have it on my schedule, but I think I'll be busy at the data center. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mathew Howard" To: "af" Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 9:26:37 AM Subject: [A

Re: [AFMUG] Squirrel proofing

bbdge helps, they chew the outer sheat exposing the copper shield, but there is still an inner sheath that protects the network cable On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 11:18 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Remington 870 Express. ;-) > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] Squirrel proofing

22long with a scope? www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – dmburg...@linktechs.net -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 10:01 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Squirrel proofing Any grand suggestions on

Re: [AFMUG] Squirrel proofing

I concur. Squirrel is good eats. ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ > On Jun 2, 2016, at 9:49 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > > 22long with a scope? >

Re: [AFMUG] Pricing for Managed Customer Routers?

Im lost, I see this calix thrown around and there was an intermingling of cnmaestro, whats the buzz? tell me whats happening On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > The ILEC I manage. > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 8:28 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subjec

Re: [AFMUG] Squirrel proofing

I guess #8 bird shot is out of the question. Dennis Burgess wrote: 22long with a scope? www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – dmburg...@linktechs.net -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 10:01 PM To: Animal

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP event June 07

I was thinking about going, but it's probably not worth the drive down there vs just watching online. I figured it might be worthwhile if some of you guys were going to be around... but I'm probably actually just looking for an excuse to drive down to Chicago instead of doing real work that day :P

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP event June 07

Having only played with a the ePMP a little bit what does the ePMP add to the platform? How does it compare to PMP450 line? On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: > Anybody here going to the ePMP 2000 launch event next week? > > http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP/ePMP-ev

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP event June 07

Made by the same company, that says a lot. It isn't an FPGA, it's an Atheros chip. Having said that, it really is staggering how not all Atheros equipment is made the same. Somehow they managed to make it sync and it's cheap, so it's absolutely amazing. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct

Re: [AFMUG] Squirrel proofing

Depends on what and where the site is? On 06/01/2016 10:01 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: Any grand suggestions on rodent and bird proofing cables secured to a wood phone pole? It seems either squirrels or wood peckers attacked one of our sites.

Re: [AFMUG] Squirrel proofing

http://www.majorpandemic.com/2012/07/ultimate-1022-shootout-test.html On 6/2/16 7:49 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: 22long with a scope? www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – dmburg...@linktechs.net -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Squirrel proofing

We have either HDPFE conduit or Superior Essex clamped with hangers and grommets. The Breakout is the hardest to deal with top side. We use Sched 80 enclosure with some all thread thru the side of the enclosure to hang all of the cable hangers on. Keeps everything neat and in line. I cannot sta

Re: [AFMUG] Seems legit

If you are only looking at the actual usages yes this looks great, but what about how much time will used to maintain said such infrastructure and the infrastructure it attaches to. So, Yes I would be looking for more on a monthly rate. Especially if I deployed it and installed it. Of course yo

Re: [AFMUG] Squirrel proofing

It could be wood peckers. How do they taste? Tyler Treat wrote: I concur. Squirrel is good eats. ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Jun 2, 2016, a

Re: [AFMUG] Squirrel proofing

only one way to find out. On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: > It could be wood peckers. How do they taste? > > Tyler Treat wrote: > >> I concur. >> Squirrel is good eats. >> >> ___ >> Mangled by my iPhone. >> ___ >> Tyler Tre

[AFMUG] telephone pole climbing spikes

are these things even made any more? Im talking about the ones on the poles not the boot straps. I can find "vintage spikes" for sale as antiques but nothing new. We have more and more customers putting up telephone poles for service, and the volume makes the ladder to the pole too risky. I havent

Re: [AFMUG] Seems legit

I hope im not coming across as thinking this guy is anywhere near his right mind in his expectations On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 10:26 AM, David wrote: > If you are only looking at the actual usages yes this looks great, but > what about how much time will used to maintain said such infrastructure a

Re: [AFMUG] Pricing for Managed Customer Routers?

Calix has a manged router platform called consumer connect. 844E is a dual band AC router with ethernet wan. Cambium is also rolling a managed router platform with cnmaestro. I honestly don't know enough about the routers. On Jun 2, 2016 9:59 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > Im lost, I see t

Re: [AFMUG] Pricing for Managed Customer Routers?

is cnmaestro another platform toy theyll get bored with right after we vest in it as has historically been the case with cambium/motorola or am i just still holding a baseless grudge over prizm? On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Joe Novak wrote: > Calix has a manged router platform called consum

Re: [AFMUG] Deka 7T31 non-AGM batteries

I like these... https://www.dropbox.com/s/eltaidav6g0o392/Screenshot%202016-06-02%2010.50.28.png?dl=0 On 6/1/2016 12:24 PM, Paul McCall wrote: Some our remote towers can have outages lasting several hours several times a year. We have gotten good lifespans on the AGMs and we are probably le

Re: [AFMUG] Pricing for Managed Customer Routers?

R200 is 2g R201 is 2g/5g Both have "P" (r200p) for power - 24v poe out of the wan port for your radio They both have ATA for phone. Software is OpenWRT or similar. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 11:48 AM, J

Re: [AFMUG] Pricing for Managed Customer Routers?

Don't forget Wireless Manager, PMP320, and BAM. What else am I missing that I got completely screwed out of thousands of dollars for by Motorola and Cambium? I'll have to be pretty drunk to invest in one of their tools again. At least they do LinkPlanner right. On 6/2/2016 11:50 AM, That On

Re: [AFMUG] Pricing for Managed Customer Routers?

To be fair, let's look at that versus their success of PMP100. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Jon Bruce wrote: > Don't forget Wireless Manager, PMP320, and BAM. What else am I missing > that I got

Re: [AFMUG] telephone pole climbing spikes

What you're looking for are "pole steps" or in some places "pole pegs". http://www.arrisistore.com/subcat.php?cat=ACK On Jun 2, 2016 10:41 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > are these things even made any more? Im talking about the ones on the > poles not the boot straps. I can find "vintage s

Re: [AFMUG] telephone pole climbing spikes

thanks!! On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > What you're looking for are "pole steps" or in some places "pole pegs". > > http://www.arrisistore.com/subcat.php?cat=ACK > On Jun 2, 2016 10:41 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < > thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> are these thing

Re: [AFMUG] telephone pole climbing spikes

You just keep being you, you beautiful, magnificent bastard. *Cheers* On Jun 2, 2016 11:04 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > thanks!! > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Josh Reynolds > wrote: > >> What you're looking for are "pole steps" or in some places "pole pegs". >> >> http://www.arri

Re: [AFMUG] telephone pole climbing spikes

I didn't think pole steps are considered safe due to telephone poles tendency to rot? On Jun 2, 2016 11:06 AM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > You just keep being you, you beautiful, magnificent bastard. > > *Cheers* > On Jun 2, 2016 11:04 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < > thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote

Re: [AFMUG] telephone pole climbing spikes

Huh? Sure they rot, everything does. How many decades though is the question. On Jun 2, 2016 11:08 AM, "Joe Novak" wrote: > I didn't think pole steps are considered safe due to telephone poles > tendency to rot? > On Jun 2, 2016 11:06 AM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > >> You just keep being you, you

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP event June 07

I think the event is worth paying attention to. Some significant upgrades coming to the ePMP line. Matt Kahle and Mike Janachowski from ConVergence will be there. Wish I could go but alas… trade show in Colorado to attend (Mountain Connect). Daniel White Managing Director – Hardware Dist

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP event June 07

If I had the time to swing up there I absolutely would. I'm more interested in buying and using the product than I am seeing it announced. I know that's sacrilegious, you iPhoners, but some of us use logic. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP event June 07

Cambium seems to like to pre-announce it about five or six times still pretending it's a secret before the actual announcement. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: af

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP event June 07

Generate the buzz at the shows. Some Moto fan boys never make it to the awesome WISPA shows, so I expect the announcements like this are for them. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP event June 07

All this work and trips cut into my drinking timelol...actually pretty busy next few weeks On Jun 2, 2016 12:11 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > If I had the time to swing up there I absolutely would. I'm more > interested in buying and using the product than I am seeing it announced. > I kno

[AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

We have mostly PMP100 and PMP450 deployed. Some Ubiquiti we tried and some we inherited as well. Have some ePMP we have tested but so far have not deployed more then couple test links. For those who have tried both ePMP and PMP450 what are the differences you have seen in performance? Interfere

[AFMUG] Netonix Temps

Hi folks... Summer has finally hit the west coast...Of people who are running Netonix switches in UN_Airconditioned environments.. Is anyone plotting their PHY temps? What are you seeing for daily maxes at what kind of ambient air temps?

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

PMP450 is better. It will win the interference war. It will offer a bit better bits/hz. If the revenue supports it, use it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Matt wrote: > We have mostly PMP100 and

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

we are moving to epmp for cheap in 5ghz, the most populated ap only has like 12 users on 12/2 plans up to 8 miles, I dont see it scaling well compared to 450, but much better than the ubnt could ever dream. Its sync lets us do ABAB with no notable hit yet. 3ghz we are moving to 450 from a mix of ub

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

This is our most loaded 5Ghz ePMP AP: [image: Inline image 1] [image: Inline image 2] Users on this AP have plans from 1.5-10Mbps. I think it averages 70-80% of downlink frame usage during peak times, but I don't have a graph available because Cambium won't expose this as a percentage via SNMP

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

WOW that's a healthy amount of people. Lucky you!!! The SNMP value is coming soon (TM) (C) (R) (A) (P) from what I hear. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Josh Baird wrote: > This is our most loaded

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

I think a lot of the difference is that it isn't technically as good, so people discount it, but there's little attention paid to if the differences are realized or significant. I'd love for frame utilization as an OID. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Interne

[AFMUG] Overlashing ADSS

Has anyone done this? I'm looking for a way to attach flat drop cable to an overhead ADSS cable. I've seen it done before using zip ties, but wasn't sure if that was advisable. -Jason

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

Ya. Me too. You guys hearing this over in Rolling Meadows or did you already start popping the champagne for the announcement? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > I think a lot of

Re: [AFMUG] Overlashing ADSS

Here are some options. http://preformed.com/images/pdfs/Energy/Fiber_Optics/Hardware_for_Aerial_FTTP_Applications/Fiberlign_ADSS_Midspan_Drop/co-ss-1007-1fibr_adssdrpcbl.pdf Regards, Chuck On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > Has anyone done

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

> This is our most loaded 5Ghz ePMP AP: > > Users on this AP have plans from 1.5-10Mbps. > > I think it averages 70-80% of downlink frame usage during peak times, but I > don't have a graph available because Cambium won't expose this as a > percentage via SNMP (you have to look at the real-time v

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix Temps

Right now in Phoenix, my worst Netonix is saying 86C CPE and 78C PHY. Rory -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 12:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Netonix Temps Hi folks... Summer has finally h

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix Temps

86C CPU I'm assuming? How has that thing not exploded??? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > Right now in Phoenix, my worst Netonix is saying 86C CPE and 78C PHY. > > Rory > >

Re: [AFMUG] Pricing for Managed Customer Routers?

I think cnMaestro was announced about 1 year ago and I believe it was supposed to replace CNS. It is free (but only cloud based at this point, apparently eventual separate installations will have licensing fees). I recall conversations where it was supposed to handle remote monitoring of ePMP, cnPi

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

ePMP is adding beam forming and should be available in the next few weeks. 450's beam forming will be a little later this summer. If you get use lots of small antennas, ePMP works well. If you want a limited number of antennas with high subscriber count, 450 is better. On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:10

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix Temps

My worst is 83C PHY and 74C CPU. > On Jun 2, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > > Right now in Phoenix, my worst Netonix is saying 86C CPE and 78C PHY. > > Rory > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews > Sent: Thursday, June 02,

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix Temps

I don’t know. We are changing it out to a box with a fan shortly. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 1:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix Temps 86C CPU I'm assuming? How has that thing not exploded??? Josh Luth

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

That looks about like a couple of ours.. 30-40Mb peaks... and this is on 20MHz channels. We have around 30 APs deployed, and about 300 SMs. Adding new ones every day. We've had pretty good luck with ePMP, with a few exceptions... If you have a bridge-looped client, it wreaks havoc on the networ

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

Also interested in interference rejection of the pmp450 - is there any (in 2.4) we are getting better foliage penetration with ubnt 2.4 than epmp 2.4 - - and from the performance of the epmp 2.4 i wish wish wish it penetrated better! - Original Message - From: Matt To: af@afmug.

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

We are looking at an environment of about 3/4ths of a mile, high concentration, line of sight. Hoping to do at least 60 down - prefer 100 + down and at least 4 - prefer 40-60 up. Had considered EPMP. Had also considered ubnt ac. Seriously considering mimosa. Which product will do the best wit

Re: [AFMUG] Seems legit

Same. I was being completely facetious. Chris Wright Network Administrator Velociter Wireless 209-838-1221 x115 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 8:45 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Seems legit I hope im not coming a

Re: [AFMUG] Seems legit

So which part of this statement are you being sarcastic about? I'm confused now. On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 9:44 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > I hope im not coming across as thinking this guy is anywhere near his > right mind in his expectations > > > On Thu, Ju

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

Jay, I suspect the difference you are seeing may be mainly in the antennas. 2.4 GHz from any vendor should penetrate the same, the radio waves don’t care what brand radio launched them. And I think the difference between the platforms will be most evident in low interference environment where

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

> we are moving to epmp for cheap in 5ghz, the most populated ap only has like > 12 users on 12/2 plans up to 8 miles, I dont see it scaling well compared to > 450, but much better than the ubnt could ever dream. Its sync lets us do > ABAB with no notable hit yet. > 3ghz we are moving to 450 from a

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

5 MHz guard with epmp 0 MHz guard with 450 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Matt wrote: > > we are moving to epmp for cheap in 5ghz, the most populated ap only has > like > > 12 users on 12/2 plans up

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

hmm, i will check into that. Pretty sure with ubnt we're using kp performance. With epmp, i think it is bundled antennas... - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP Jay, I suspect t

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

UBNT AC with RFelement horn antennas or with the 3x30 degree UBNT sector. Firmware is stable enough now. Outperforms ePMP for sure. Dont believe these „you will not get 256QAM“ prayers from people selling 64QAM Equipment. Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von CBB - Jay Fuller

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

Yes, this. You need sufficient gain and isolation on the CPE end. Don't expect you can do it with 'small' CPE like the old ubnt nanostation M5 size things with fat oval noise-collecting RF patterns. Use of the 40cm and 50cm size parabolic ubnt powerbeam AC (and powerbeam AC ISO with shroud/radome)

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

What is your SNMP polling interval on that and RRD step size? If you're seeing peaks of 35 Mbps, I bet that your microburst peaks are actually around 55 Mbps but you're not seeing them due to >60 second polling. On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Josh Baird wrote: > This is our most loaded 5Ghz e

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

I’m thinking more the CPE antennas. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP hmm, i will check into that. Pretty sure with ubnt we're using kp performance. With epmp, i think it is bundled antennas... - Original

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

No...it's not. The EPMP 2.4 radios just suck at penetration. I've done Ubnt KPP and IT Elite - they all performed terribly. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:59 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > hmm, i will c

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

And I've tried IT Elite dual pol panels, Force 200 2.4, integrated + reflector for CPEs. Continues to suck. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > I’m thinking more the CPE antennas. >

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

we have 5mhz On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > What is your SNMP polling interval on that and RRD step size? If you're > seeing peaks of 35 Mbps, I bet that your microburst peaks are actually > around 55 Mbps but you're not seeing them due to >60 second polling. > > On Thu, J

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

What does 5 MHz have to do with polling interval and RRD step size? On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 2:11 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > we have 5mhz > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > >> What is your SNMP polling interval on that and RRD step size?

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

Indeed. 5 minute polling intervals (step = 300sec). I see real-time spikes in the ~60mbps range. On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > What is your SNMP polling interval on that and RRD step size? If you're > seeing peaks of 35 Mbps, I bet that your microburst peaks are actually

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

1-6miles. Downlink breakdown: MCS15 - 33% MCS14 - 18% MCS14 - 21% MCS14 - 21% ... Regarding uplink, 90% are MCS12. On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Matt wrote: > > This is our most loaded 5Ghz ePMP AP: > > > > Users on this AP have plans from 1.5-10Mbps. > > > > I think it averages 70-80% of

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

and wow, those customers don't move much upstream AT ALL... There's nobody who left a torrent client open with the latest episode of game of thrones, or a Backblaze/Dropbox/whatever backup process trying to upload 200GB of the entire contents of their iMac. On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Josh Ba

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

Umm, no? He asked about SNMP polling intervals. On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 5:23 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > he asked about guard band > > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Josh Baird wrote: > >> Indeed. 5 minute polling intervals (step = 300sec). I see real-time

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

So by penetration, do you mean LOS range, or signal attenuation through foliage? Another possibility, foliage probably depolarizes the signal, perhaps the two radios have differing ability to recover the two streams and achieve full MIMO-B throughput. Although I would expect they would both be

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

he asked about guard band On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Josh Baird wrote: > Indeed. 5 minute polling intervals (step = 300sec). I see real-time > spikes in the ~60mbps range. > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > >> What is your SNMP polling interval on that and RRD step

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

But does it actually perform worse that UBNT 2.4ghz on the same link, or is it maybe just differences in how they calculate signal levels? It doesn't make any sense that two different radios running on the same frequency putting the same amount of power into the same antennas would give significant

Re: [AFMUG] OT ahhhh.. duck quisidilla and blanton's

Here's the deal on Pappy. 5 years ago I could walk in and buy 10-20y all day long, if you knew where to go. I would pay retail for 10 and 15y, and a $50 premium for 20y and a $75-100 premium for 23y. Sans-Pappy theft, it's more popular than it needs to be. People camp out 2-3 days in advance of

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix Temps

BTW. Is Chuck M off the air in some erotic location? On Jun 2, 2016 3:35 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Supposed to hit 102 this weekend here wonder in Phoenix get a > bigger enclosure that helps along with fan. > On Jun 2, 2016 2:24 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > >> I don’t know. We are

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

Once that cloud backup is done, it's done. :-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Eric Kuhnke" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 4:24:42 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix Temps

Exoticstupid phone... On Jun 2, 2016 3:35 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Supposed to hit 102 this weekend here wonder in Phoenix get a > bigger enclosure that helps along with fan. > On Jun 2, 2016 2:24 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > >> I don’t know. We are changing it out to a box w

Re: [AFMUG] Pricing for Managed Customer Routers?

They said at one point that it would have some kind of generic SNMP support, so that could in theory work with PMP100... whether or not that will actually ever happen, I don't know. I'm not particularly interested in using any cloud based system, since our radios are on private IPs with no internet

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix Temps

Freudian slip much? On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Exoticstupid phone... > On Jun 2, 2016 3:35 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > >> Supposed to hit 102 this weekend here wonder in Phoenix get a >> bigger enclosure that helps along with fan. >> On Jun 2, 2016 2

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

With this short distance he’ll get hot signals with 50cm dishes. These 19db Nanobeams are quite good under a mile. Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Eric Kuhnke Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. Juni 2016 23:03 An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP Yes, this. You ne

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix Temps

Supposed to hit 102 this weekend here wonder in Phoenix get a bigger enclosure that helps along with fan. On Jun 2, 2016 2:24 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > I don’t know. We are changing it out to a box with a fan shortly. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *O

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix Temps

he posted a message to the AF list at 8:27am today On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > BTW. Is Chuck M off the air in some erotic location? > On Jun 2, 2016 3:35 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > >> Supposed to hit 102 this weekend here wonder in Phoenix get a >> bigger en

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

all they have available is the force 200, and i don't think we had much better luck with those than the integrated units themselves. - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP I’m thin

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

Thank you for proving my point ;) - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP No...it's not. The EPMP 2.4 radios just suck at penetration. I've done Ubnt KPP and IT Elite - they all

Re: [AFMUG] Urgently need Exchange DB Guru

Oooo... Ansible and Juniper .. nice combo and works very well ;) We run Exchange internally - we're actually 80% Microsoft internally and externally .. it all has a time and a place. Personally, even though I am a Mac user for day to day, I very much prefer Exchange for the corporate mail side

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

I do not believe we have had both on the same tower. We had diverted to doing epmp 2.4 not long after it came out as we had lots of problems with ESD on ubnt 2.4 rockets. Changed some things and they are surviving storms much better. Tests near EPMP vs. tests on other towers (3 miles away? -

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

Your welcome, I guess? =) I'd rather be proving you wrong so we can gut Ubnt 2.4 and put up ePMP 2.4. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 5:47 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > Thank you for proving my point ;) >

Re: [AFMUG] Urgently need Exchange DB Guru

Can’t resist jumping in here :) Yes, can’ agree more – run the mail systems yourself.Sendmail is still very popular and widely adopted, however totally agree on personal preference of Postfix.It’s part of being an ISP in my opinion .. DNS, Mail, Authentication etc are no different th

Re: [AFMUG] Urgently need Exchange DB Guru

did you get it fixed On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: > Oooo... Ansible and Juniper .. nice combo and works very well ;) > > We run Exchange internally - we're actually 80% Microsoft internally and > externally .. it all has a time and a place. Personally, even though I am >

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

i just replied to the thread On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > So by penetration, do you mean LOS range, or signal attenuation through > foliage? > > Another possibility, foliage probably depolarizes the signal, perhaps the > two radios have differing ability to recover the two

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix Temps

Yep..my slip showed..I was waiting for his Paint it white recommendation. On Jun 2, 2016 3:41 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: > Freudian slip much? > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >> Exoticstupid phone... >> On Jun 2, 2016 3:35 PM, "Jaime Solorza" >> wrote: >> >>>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

I've been meaning to do a direct comparison between the two, by swapping one of our UBNT 2.4ghz APs to an ePMP and keeping the exact same antennas and everything else... I just need to figure out where I can do it that's going to give me some useful information and not make too many customers angry

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

I mean signal attenuation through foliage. Possibly LOS range, too, but I don't really have a whole lot of testing for that because if we see the tower we do 5 GHz. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Tha

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

I can only warn you that you'll have a very angry set of customers. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > I've been meaning to do a direct comparison between the two, by swapping > o

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