per modulation.
From: Af on behalf of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 10:31:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
Probably due to linearity issues in the power amp section. Higher order
modulation
, August 17, 2017 7:02 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
They are upconverted 5ghz chipsets, but I don't know that I'd call it
ubntesque. If 5ghz was interfering, I would assume it would show up on the
spectrum analyzer, and it doesn't (alt
ime Solorza
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>> On Aug 17, 2017 8:16 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote:
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>> “I’m with Steve” Hmmm, do I have enough courage to hang with Steve???
>> Hangover part 4?
>>
>> *From:* Brett A Mansfield
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 7:33 PM
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rom:* Brett A Mansfield
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 7:33 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
>
> I'm with Steve. I just bought a couple B11s and they are going on a tower
> that has so much 5GHz that is very loud.
are far more
useful.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 8:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
So we have completed the PCN on a couple mimosa B11 links
ve” Hmmm, do I have enough courage to hang with Steve???
Hangover part 4?
*From:* Brett A Mansfield
*Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 7:33 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
I'm with Steve. I just bought a couple B11s and they are going on
“I’m with Steve” Hmmm, do I have enough courage to hang with Steve???
Hangover part 4?
From: Brett A Mansfield
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 7:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
I'm with Steve. I just bought a couple B11s and the
gt;
>> Steve, the interface is far more functional and simpler than most of the
>> other licensed links. I can’t even get real-time bandwidth numbers out of
>> them in the GUI’s which is kind of pathetic. The B11 and the Cloud are
>> far more useful.
>>
>>
>>
&
>>>> other licensed links. I can’t even get real-time bandwidth numbers out of
>>>> them in the GUI’s which is kind of pathetic. The B11 and the Cloud are
>>>> far more useful.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rory
&
bandwidth numbers out of
>> them in the GUI’s which is kind of pathetic. The B11 and the Cloud are
>> far more useful.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
>> Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sen
ay be
> looking at 11 gig
>
> so reading this carefully...
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Adair Winter
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 4:02 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
>
> B11
ilto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 8:53 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
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>
>
> So we have completed the PCN on a couple mimosa B11 links (so very, very
> unim
2017 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
B11 just isn't solid enough for me. I've installed 4 links for other people
with a few being short (like 3 miles) and they would not modulate well without
turning the power down significantly.
One
17, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Rory Conaway
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So does that mean that the SAF radios and 80GHz radios that only do
>>>> 256QAM or 64QAM aren’t doing full modulation?
>>>>
>>>> You use what works and is in your budget.
>>
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 9:43 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC
application says
I guess you could say it i
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>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 9:43 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
>>>>
>
Hz radios that only do
>>> 256QAM or 64QAM aren’t doing full modulation?
>>>
>>> You use what works and is in your budget.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *
;> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:55 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
>>
>> Sure, it also has greater potential throughput and an SFP cage.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike
nt: Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:32 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
>
> List is $2k, available for less.
>
> http://www.balticnetworks.com/mimosa-b11-starter-kit-with-11ghz-antennas.html
>
>
>
> -
> Mik
ay, August 17, 2017 2:55 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
>
> Sure, it also has greater potential throughput and an SFP cage.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ic
//www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ------------------
> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, August 17, 2017 3:46:17 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
>
> Just went through their costin
On a 5 mile link, perfect LOS path, clear fresnel zones, blue sky day, B11 will
have more throughput than AF11x?
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
Sure, it also has greater potential
In my case, I really don’t need either.
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
Sure, it also has greater potential throughput and an SFP cage.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing
: Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
Just went through their costing page. More than an AF11x system.
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
List is $2k, available
Just went through their costing page. More than an AF11x system.
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
List is $2k, available for less.
http://www.balticnetworks.com/mimosa-b11-starter-kit
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 3:28:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
What is the cost of a B11 radio?
-Original Message-
From: Rory Conaway
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 1:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC
What is the cost of a B11 radio?
-Original Message-
From: Rory Conaway
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 1:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
It's a WiFi based chipset but that has nothing to do with the modulation
being all ove
17, 2017 1:45:27 PM
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Mathew, can you go into more detail? Given the garbage their online web portal
is and the laughable excuses for no CLI, I expect problems to be met with less
than stellar support. So the more history of user ex
Thursday, August 17, 2017 11:14:42 AM
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I could give a crap about a snazzy GUI, and would much rather have a device
that could run full modulation and full duplex. Prior to "experiencing" a B11,
I'd never used a licen
mug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 9:53 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
So we have completed the PCN on a couple mimosa B11 links (so
very, very unimpressed w
.@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 11:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
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On 8/17/17 11:33, Mathew Howard wrote:
> I think the point is, on a B11 link (well, both of ours, anyway), the
> modulation will be all
On 8/17/17 11:33, Mathew Howard wrote:
I think the point is, on a B11 link (well, both of ours, anyway), the
modulation will be all over the place at any given time for no apparent
reason. Every other licensed radio I've ever used will sit at full
modulation (or whatever it's supposed to be at)
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 9:43 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
>>
>>
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>> I gu
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> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:33 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
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> All of our newer radios do 1024 QAM, and a couple do 2048 QAM. They're
> always running at full modulation (u
You are technically correct Chuck. Depends on the link quality.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:34 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
They are fully modulating the carrier
They are fully modulating the carrier.
Just with a more robust method than 1024QAM.
Are they using the full channel? I dunno.
From: Rory Conaway
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 11:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
So does that mean that
: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
I guess you could say it is not at full modulation if it is not using the full
channel width, but yeah, even if it is FSK is is still fully modulating.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto
I guess you could say it is not at full modulation if it is not using the full
channel width, but yeah, even if it is FSK is is still fully modulating.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
All of our newer radios do 1024 QAM, and a couple do 2048 QAM. They're
always running at full modulation (unless something is wrong).
bp
On 8/17/2017 9:19 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
What do you define as full modulation? These are 256QAM radios and
they modulate at 256QAM?
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
so for one site there is
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> So we have
What do you define as full modulation? These are 256QAM radios and they
modulate at 256QAM?
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 9:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
I could
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So we have completed the PCN on a couple mimosa B11 links (so very,
very unimpressed with these radios interface and function) We went
through comse
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Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 8:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
So we have completed the PCN on a couple mimosa B11 links (so very, very
unimpressed with these radios interface and function) We went through
comsearch. Trying to
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
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> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC appli
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 9:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
So we have completed the PCN on a
So we have completed the PCN on a couple mimosa B11 links (so very, very
unimpressed with these radios interface and function) We went through
comsearch. Trying to configure this, Im not sure what channel settings to
put in. I went to the application, I see the centers, but no size. Is there
a code
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