[AFMUG] Power up the tower?

2014-09-27 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
Planning on hanging a DC box on the tower 30-40w total power Cat5 using multiple pairs or 2 conductor cable? We are inclined on cat 5 for standardization purposes... Sent from Marconi's and Graham Bell's fused thoughts!!!

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2014-09-27 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Maybe just some LMR400? Would give you shielding, and probably handle up to 150-200 watts. bp On 9/27/2014 11:16 AM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote: Planning on hanging a DC box on the tower 30-40w total power Cat5 using multiple pairs or 2 conductor cable? We are inclined on cat 5 for standa

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2014-09-27 Thread Paul Conlin via Af
o: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Power up the tower? > > Maybe just some LMR400? Would give you shielding, and probably handle up to 150- > 200 watts. > > bp > > On 9/27/2014 11:16 AM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote: > > Planning on hanging a DC box on the towe

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2014-09-27 Thread Matt via Af
This is what we have used for all our CMM units for years. http://www.outdoorspeakerdepot.com/14ga2inspca5.html Outdoor, UV resistant, etc. On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote: > Planning on hanging a DC box on the tower > > 30-40w total power > > Cat5 using multiple

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2014-09-28 Thread Chuck Hogg via Af
We do power and fiber up the tower as our standard...ever since that standard has been used, I don't think we've lost a site yet. Regards, Chuck On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Matt via Af wrote: > This is what we have used for all our CMM units for years. > > http://www.outdoorspeakerdepot.co

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2014-09-28 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af
Chuck, Are you doing any 8-10 gauge runs exceeding 500' ? I can't seem to find what I need Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 28, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Chuck Hogg via Af wrote: > > We do power and fiber up the tower as our standard...ever since that standard > has been used, I don't think we've lost

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2014-09-28 Thread Mark Radabaugh via Af
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2014-09-28 Thread Josh Baird via Af
If the radios did have SFPs, wouldn't you still need to provide sync (which would mean additional cables)? On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Mark Radabaugh via Af wrote: > > http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.commscope

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2014-09-28 Thread Mark Radabaugh via Af
The built-in GPS in the 450 works reasonably well. Now that they have the option of internal GPS and freerun it's reasonably safe to let them run that way. We still have most of our units powered by CTM's but have increasingly gone to turning off sync-over-power. There is some risk of the

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2014-09-28 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
Chuck What gear are you using up in the tower to break out to copper ethernet? Sent from Marconi's and Graham Bell's fused thoughts!!! On Sep 28, 2014, at 9:52 AM, Chuck Hogg via Af mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: We do power and fiber up the tower as our standard...ever since that standard has

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2014-09-28 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
Keep us posted on pricing! Any ideas of what sw to use on top? Sent from Marconi's and Graham Bell's fused thoughts!!! On Sep 28, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Mark Radabaugh via Af mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CC0QFjAA&u

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2014-09-28 Thread Chuck Hogg via Af
We use this, and solder two legs together. We send 48v DC up to the top and downconvert. I think we've gone about 450' with this configuration (including up the tower and along the cable raceway to the inside of a building) However, that's primarily why we send 48v up and downconvert, because of

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2014-09-28 Thread Josh Baird via Af
Planet makes a few models that look attractive. http://www.advice.co.il/data/files/C-IGS-802T_s.pdf If you need L3 or routing, a 2011 is a cheap solution. Josh On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote: > Keep us posted on pricing! > > Any ideas of what sw to use on top?

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2014-09-28 Thread Chuck Hogg via Af
I have requested pricing on this as well. I think that in the end, it was overly expensive (something like 4x the cost of doing 2 split runs, $4.10/ft or something like that). If we could get that even within 15% of what I'm paying now, I'd be happy. Regards, Chuck On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:12

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2014-09-28 Thread Mark Radabaugh via Af
At $4.10 it's not great, but I would probably go for it. Biggest driver for me would be the single cable up the tower and the ease of securing that cable. I used to do 'box at the top' and moved to individual runs to the base. The cabling is a nuisance with everything at the bottom which is

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2014-09-28 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
Any of these SW work? http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product_list.php?id=22154 Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr On 9/28/14, 11:28 AM, "Mark Radabaugh via Af" wrote: >At $4.10 it's not great, but I would probably go for it.

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2014-09-28 Thread Paul Conlin via Af
from Planet. PC Blaze Broadband > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+pconlin=blazebroadband@afmug.com] On Behalf > Of Mark Radabaugh via Af > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 11:29 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Power up the tower? >

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2014-09-28 Thread Josh Baird via Af
The 8port GigE switch that I referenced above has both SFP and copper interfaces, mounts on a DIN rail and is hardened. It's also only $199. Sure - it's twice as many ports as you need, but that may come in handy down the road. Anything keeping you from trying this model? Josh On Sun, Sep 28,

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2014-09-28 Thread David Milholen via Af
+ 1 billion on hybrid cable My first site used RG58 for Power and fiber for the data but when the Hybrid cable came on the scene I fell in love with it LOL Bestronics does a turn-key cable with custom length pigtail on each end and what ever type terminations. On 9/28/2014 8:50 AM, Chuck Hog

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2014-09-28 Thread Jason McKemie via Af
Hybrid cable is nice, but it is a 1+1=8 type situation. Simply not worth the additional cost. On Sunday, September 28, 2014, David Milholen via Af wrote: > + 1 billion on hybrid cable > My first site used RG58 for Power and fiber for the data but when the > Hybrid cable came on the scene > I f

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2014-09-29 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
Ahem Tesla's fused thoughts before Marconi stole them. Jaime Solorza On Sep 27, 2014 12:16 PM, "Gino Villarini via Af" wrote: > Planning on hanging a DC box on the tower > > 30-40w total power > > Cat5 using multiple pairs or 2 conductor cable? > > We are inclined on cat 5 for standardization pu

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2014-09-29 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
We have been installing sensors down 600 ft well pipes that are 24vdc on current project. Cable looks like heavy jacketed Cat 5 with three leads and a strong pull guide inside. That connects to box outside the control room and about 15 more feet via conduit to RTU panel Jaime Solorza On Sep 27

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2014-09-29 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
We have been installing sensors down 600 ft well pipes that are 24vdc on current project. Cable looks like heavy jacketed Cat 5 with three leads and a strong pull guide inside. That connects to box outside the control room Jaime Solorza On Sep 27, 2014 12:16 PM, "Gino Villarini via Af" wrote:

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2014-09-29 Thread Gerard Dupont III via Af
Our Top boxes usually contain the following. 1x Sitemonitor 2x GigabitSyncInjectors 1x Citel DS210-48DC 2x Traco TCL 060-124 DC Down Convertors - http://www.tracopower.com/products/tcl-dc.pdf 1x RB2011 2x APC PRM4 Surge Chasis 8x GigEAPC-HV Gerard On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Chuck Hogg v

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2014-10-02 Thread Kade Sullivan via Af
Do you guys find that the packetflux gear has a high survival rate up there? We have a site that needs converted to DC and recabled, and are considering this route. Our thinking is, why put the dc box at the bottom when we can just put the thing up at the top and run nothing down to the bottom ex

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2014-10-03 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
That's where having sync built-in is nice. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Josh Baird via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 9:27:11 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Power up the t

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2014-10-03 Thread Vince West via Af
Kade, I can't speak on the fiber, because we have used a few different kinds over the builds we have done. My favorite has been bend insensitive fiber. It is small and can make the same turns the Ethernet and power can without risking a break. It is also really thin and makes for easier movement w

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2014-10-03 Thread Jeremy via Af
Cisco IE-3000 4TC sounds like exactly what you are looking for. It runs on 18-60VDC and can operate up to 167 degrees Fahrenheit. On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Mark Radabaugh via Af wrote: > At $4.10 it's not great, but I would probably go for it. Biggest driver > for me would be the singl

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2014-10-03 Thread Cassidy B. Larson via Af
I've tried a few of these and seem to like them: http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product.php?id=48479 -40 to 70C 8x1G copper and 2xSFP No routing, but for the need, it'd work and is DIN rail mounted. -c -- Cassidy B. Larson CTO - InfoWest, Inc. Voice: 435-773-6073 c...@infowest.com

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2014-10-04 Thread Chuck Hogg via Af
To be clear, we don't use something like an APC UPS. We do a battery array with a charge controller. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Vince West via Af wrote: > Kade, > > I can't speak on the fiber, because we have used a few different kinds > over the builds we have done. My fav

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2014-10-04 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
What are u using? Sent from Marconi's and Graham Bell's fused thoughts!!! On Oct 4, 2014, at 11:02 AM, Chuck Hogg via Af mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: To be clear, we don't use something like an APC UPS. We do a battery array with a charge controller. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 3

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2014-10-04 Thread Chuck Hogg via Af
Traco Charge Controller & Power supply. TSP-BCM48 TSP 360–148 Regards, Chuck On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote: > What are u using? > > Sent from Marconi's and Graham Bell's fused thoughts!!! > > > On Oct 4, 2014, at 11:02 AM, Chuck Hogg via Af wrote: > > To be