mug.com
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
somebody sees the light at the end of the tunnel :)
gotta luv unsync'd spectrum hog based gear.
Im hitting the deck on that one LOL
On 01/22/2015 08:53 AM, John Woodfield wrote:
But
EIRP no matter what happens.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: "John Woodfield"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:43:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
It only
January 22, 2015 12:13pm
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
No. I had this discussion last night off-list. Let me back up, you can't max it
out with low-gain antennas. You can compensate the low TX power with higher
gain antennas. Unfortunately they don'
oh buddy, you missed a lot.
i have 500+ emails to read, i'm sure someone has explained it by now...
- Original Message -
From: John Woodfield
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
Ok What did I miss
ects a tax that is not a tax, and
> distributes it according to the whims of unelected officials under the
> influence of lobbyists.
>
>
> From: Cameron Crum <mailto:cc...@wispmon.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 11:26 AM
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.
o: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
>>>
>>> Probably not. These are near future rules, not "right now" rules.
>>>
>>> Can you not max out the legal limits with ePMP?
>>>
>>> Is this why the pow
under the influence of
lobbyists.
From: Cameron Crum
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 11:26 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
If ISPs have to collect, does that mean they are also eligible for subsidies?
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:28 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote
The ePMP does in the US???
John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937
-Original Message-
From: "Mathew Howard"
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 12:40pm
To: "af"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
I think t
antennas or wire loss...
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> John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410)
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> -Original Message-
> From: "Adam Moffett"
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 12:06pm
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re
, January 22, 2015 8:14 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
>
>
> You should change it to, "when required by corrupt, geriatric, ignorant,
> and moronic government politicians". There is no question why Obama is
> pushing this, he is
WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937
-Original Message-
From: "Adam Moffett"
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 12:06pm
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
Probably not. These are near future rules, not "right now" rules.
Can yo
15 12:04pm
To: "af@afmug.com"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
It had to do with the timing of the certification of the equipment. Hence,
the delay on the PowerBeam DFS capabilities.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent:
al Message-
From: "Mark Radabaugh"
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 11:23am
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
The new rules don’t prohibit high power operation in 5.8, they limit
the out of band emission into 5.4 to such extreme levels that it’s
very
It had to do with the timing of the certification of the equipment. Hence,
the delay on the PowerBeam DFS capabilities.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:52 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
I
> From: "Mark Radabaugh"
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 11:23am
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
>
> The new rules don’t prohibit high power operation in 5.8, they limit the
> out of band emission into 5.4 to such extreme level
ning 17dBm on 5170.
>
>
>
> Rory
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>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:16 AM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
>
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>
> Are you sure about that?
[ af-boun...@afmug.com ]( mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com )] On
Behalf Of Ken HohhofSent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:28 AM
To: [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com )Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of
being an ISP
My worry would be that manufacturers decide the redesign effort, higher prices,
Yes, I’m sure. I’m running 17dBm on 5170.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:16 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
Are you sure about that? I thought they were still operating under the old
rules
m <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On
> Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:28 AM
>
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> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
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>
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> My worry would be that manufacturers decide the re
ssage-
From: "Adam Moffett"
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:49am
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
Oh you missed that? Out of band emissions limits will be based on
EIRP instead of Tx power. So a linksys router with a 3db antenna
probably doesn&#
gt;
>
> Rory
>
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:28 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
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> My worry would be that manufacturers decide the r
Interesting. Is that just the integrated, or also the B5c and with what gain
antennas?
From: Rory Conaway
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:35 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
The Mimosa B5’s already meet the current spec that the FCC proposed. The
d <mailto:john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz>
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:53 AM
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
>
> But will they enforce it with all the amateurs running around throwing up
> UBNT stuff eve
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Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
But will they enforce it with all the amateurs running around throwing up UBNT
stuff everywhere? Its gotten really bad around here. Nobody even bothers to do
spect
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
But will they enforce it with all the amateurs running around throwing up UBNT
stuff everywhere? Its gotten really bad around here. Nobody even bothers to do
spectrum analysis. Heck the county government starting throwing up rocket
dishes at full
place...
John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937
-Original Message-
From: "Adam Moffett"
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:49am
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
Oh you missed that? Out of band emissi
vawifi.com cell (410)
708-1937
-Original Message-
From: "Ken Hohhof"
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:28am
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
So did all you folks stop worrying about the 5 GHz rules? They are
already
a done deal, the
way
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:14 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
>
> You should change it to, "when required by corrupt, geriatric, ignorant, and
> moronic government politicians". There is no question why Obama is pu
Ok What did I miss. New 5ghz rules???
John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937
-Original Message-
From: "Ken Hohhof"
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:28am
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
So d
gets even more subsidies to overbuild us.
-Original Message-
From: Rory Conaway
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:14 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
You should change it to, "when required by corrupt, geriatric, ignorant, and
moronic governm
Obama
blindsided me on his need to destroy another industry and make government
bigger.
Rory
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 10:21 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
We
We have always had the disclaimer in our service agreement that it would
include taxes/surcharges if/when required by the government. Doesn't
make it taste any better, but it covers the reality.
bp
On 1/21/2015 6:23 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
On 1/21/15 18:07, Rory Conaway wrote:
I think we
true.
former chairman...
and some of his comments may have been taken out of context (see msg just
forwarded)
- Original Message -
From: Hardy, Tim
To:
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
Chairman Powell? Not for
word on the street is our rates WOULD go up. Transport would go up.
- Original Message -
From: Seth Mattinen
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
On 1/21/15 18:07, Rory Conaway wrote:
> I think
ednesday, January 21, 2015 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
What are the chances of this actually happening and if it does not being tied
up in court for the next 5-10 years?
John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937
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That is certainly the plan.
- Original Message -
From: Brett A Mansfield
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
I think this will hurt the middle class the most. I bet if we get enough
people to bitch
ROW would make my day.
- Original Message -
From: Josh Reynolds
To: af@afmug.com ; Rory Conaway
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
If we get access to wholesale bandwidth as well as access to the USF
checkbook and
.
- Original Message -
From: John Woodfield
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
If this happens it is really going to suck. We just raised our rates for the
first time in 5 years. I can't imagin
Is there a link or anything to see the details?
Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 6:02 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller
> wrote:
>
>
> This posted on the facebook page of Athena Broadband of TN today:
>
> Chairman Powell of the FCC plans to reclassify the Internet as a regulated
> ut
9:23pm
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
On 1/21/15 18:07, Rory Conaway wrote:
> I think we need to tell every single customer why the rates went up.
> There is another election in 2 years.
>
Your rates aren't going up. The explanation to the custome
On 1/21/15 18:07, Rory Conaway wrote:
I think we need to tell every single customer why the rates went up.
There is another election in 2 years.
Your rates aren't going up. The explanation to the customer is simple:
"the total bill is higher because the government added a new tax. The
pre-t
s went up. There
> is another election in 2 years.
>
> Rory
>
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of John Woodfield
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:02 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
>
> If this happens it
in 2 years.
>
>Rory
>
>From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of John Woodfield
>Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:02 PM
>To: af@afmug.com
>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
>
>
>If this happens it is really going to suck. We just raised our rate
I think we need to tell every single customer why the rates went up. There is
another election in 2 years.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of John Woodfield
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:02 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
If
ssage-
From: "Sterling Jacobson"
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 8:58pm
To: "af@afmug.com"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
Well, if it’s one, it’s all, so at least some of the competition will also use
it as an excuse to raise rates.
From: Af [ma
That's what I was thinking.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: "Tim Hardy"
To: ""
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:23:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
Cha
Well, if it's one, it's all, so at least some of the competition will also use
it as an excuse to raise rates.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Hardy, Tim
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:23 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
Chairman Po
Chairman Powell? Not for the last 6 years...
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 21, 2015, at 8:02 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller
mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:
This posted on the facebook page of Athena Broadband of TN today:
Chairman Powell of the FCC plans to reclassify the Internet as a regulated
This posted on the facebook page of Athena Broadband of TN today:
Chairman Powell of the FCC plans to reclassify the Internet as a regulated
utility on Feb 26th. The chairman has confirmed in a house hearing today that
USF fees WILL apply to Internet service. The current USF collection rate is
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