Re: [agi] o1!!!!! *yawn*

Claude's response :) print("01000111001101001100011101100101010010110110001101011100110001100101001110100101011011010100011001110101101001110101") On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 1:03 PM James Bowery wrote: > ChatGPT o1-preview > [image: User] > You said: > w

Re: [agi] Internal Time-Consciousness Machine (ITCM)

The problems with using 'consciousness' in your design somehow are manifold. First of all it is notoriously difficult to define in humans. We had a meetup event with a writeup featuring a practically unlimited number of definitions. But then if you GO FURTHER and then apply it to your machine, th

Re: [agi] Internal Time-Consciousness Machine (ITCM)

They say "understanding" a lot but don't really define it (perhaps implicitly). It seems like a reasonable start as a basis. I don't see how it relates to consciousness really, except that I think they emphasize a real time aspect and a flow of time which is good. On Sat, Jun 15, 2024 at 5:10 PM

Re: [agi] GPT-4 passes the Turing test

Now time for the usual goal post movers On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 7:49 AM Matt Mahoney wrote: > It's official now. GPT-4 was judged to be human 54% of the time, compared > to 22% for ELIZA and 50% for GPT-3.5. > https://arxiv.org/abs/2405.08007 > *Artificial General Intelligence List

Re: [agi] Oh boy....

ISW assessment attached On Sun, Jun 9, 2024 at 12:17 PM Mike Archbold wrote: > Putin saber rattles with nukes in order to discourage the West from > helping Ukraine with arms. He used to say something to the effect that if > Ukraine fires US weapons into Russia, that was tantamount to

Re: [agi] Oh boy....

Putin saber rattles with nukes in order to discourage the West from helping Ukraine with arms. He used to say something to the effect that if Ukraine fires US weapons into Russia, that was tantamount to war with the US. Now however (after that happened) he says that is not quite enough to provoke n

Re: [agi] Can symbolic approach entirely replace NN approach?

Historically the AGI community has not really embraced neural networks -- and the cost has been that the AI explosion has come from the mainstream more or less. On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 7:01 PM Quan Tesla wrote: > Without neural networks, a symbolic approach wouldn't be effective. My > view is th

Re: [agi] Can symbolic approach entirely replace NN approach?

It seems like most approaches including symbolic only could eventually lead to "true AI" if you mean ~ passing the Turing test, but it might take 100 years. There is a race to the finish aspect to AI though. On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 8:27 AM wrote: > What should symbolic approach include to entire

Re: [agi] Hey, looks like the goertzel is hiring...

I thought the "atomspace" was the ~knowledge base? On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 2:54 PM Matt Mahoney wrote: > It could be that everyone still on this list has a different idea on how > to solve AGI, making any kind of team effort impossible. I recall a few > years back that Ben was hiring developers i

Re: [agi] my AGI-2024 paper (AGI from the perspective of categorical logic and algebraic geometry)

I know you have long been interested in fusing logic and neural networks, which is very interesting and would help transparency a lot if successful. On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 12:35 PM Mike Archbold wrote: > It looks tantalizingly interesting but to help me, somewhat more of an > int

Re: [agi] my AGI-2024 paper (AGI from the perspective of categorical logic and algebraic geometry)

It looks tantalizingly interesting but to help me, somewhat more of an intuitive narrative would help me unless you are just aiming at a narrow audience. On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 5:10 AM YKY (Yan King Yin, 甄景贤) < generic.intellige...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi friends, > > This is my latest paper. I

Re: [agi] FHI is shutting down

Some people on facebook are spiking the ball... I guess I won't say who ;) On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 4:03 PM Matt Mahoney wrote: > https://www.futureofhumanityinstitute.org/ > *Artificial General Intelligence List * > / AGI / see discussions

Re: [agi] Iran <> Israel, can AGI zealots do anything?

Who is an AGI zealot? On Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 2:29 AM Keyvan M. Sadeghi < keyvan.m.sade...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thoughts? > *Artificial General Intelligence List * > / AGI / see discussions + > participants

Re: [agi] Re: We worked to hard

also be 25 and hip On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 12:39 PM wrote: > Ya. You're right. > > Ray Kurzweil I think if I recall correctly said somehting similar in his > book ?? He said all we need to do is wait, until AGI is made. That we need > to make it to 2019, then 2029, to be able to reap benefits. >

[agi] We worked to hard

Most of those who frequent this message board -- we worked too hard. It turns out you only need a couple years of college, you can drop out, and just wait until someone else invents a proto-AGI, then create a website with any name drawn from the dictionary appended with :*.ai". That's all I needed

Re: [agi] Claude-3 scores 101 on IQ test

I like: Conclusion - AI is progressing rapidly and the world will probably change a lot soon On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 9:29 AM Matt Mahoney wrote: > First time above 100 for an AI. Caveat: visual questions were converted to > verbal as if an accomodation for the blind. So it's not AGI yet. > http

Re: [agi] Sam Altman Seeks Trillions

and that's just with two years of college. Think how much more it would be if he was a graduate On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 6:28 AM Bill Hibbard via AGI wrote: > At 76 years old I can afford to find the humor in this: > > https://www.msn.com/en-za/news/other/openai-chief-looking-to-raise-trillions-t

Re: [agi] The future of AGI judgments

change the world, there is typically a prevailing "objective"). I'm trying to build up some material for a meetup event. So thanks guys. MIke PS., There was a mistake in my prior messages, which should read "A true judgment would be unique to an AGI" if anyone cares!

Re: [agi] The future of AGI judgments

ose as you can get. A true judgment might not be unique to an AGI. On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 8:05 AM James Bowery wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 3:32 PM Mike Archbold wrote: > >> James, >> >> Thanks for the lead. I know the general nature of AIXI but haven't

Re: [agi] The future of AGI judgments

lly fall into a class called > 'ambiguity management'. > > If you revisited the, now-ancient publication, of my abstract-reasoning > method on researchgate, you'll find mention of ambiguity. In physics terms, > we may as well have called that: 'relativity management'. It&

Re: [agi] The future of AGI judgments

a novel situation. On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 1:31 PM Mike Archbold wrote: > James, > > Thanks for the lead. I know the general nature of AIXI but haven't read > the paper. Basically what you are arguing, I think, is that everything done > by a machine is a judgment, since u

Re: [agi] The future of AGI judgments

sense of "subjective" where one places *values* on one's > experiences via the *utility function* that parameterizes SDT. > > If you're going to depart from AIXI or elaborate it in some way, then it > is important to understand where, in its very concise formaliz

[agi] The future of AGI judgments

be immediately and objectively correct or incorrect. Lately I have been studying LLM-as-a-Judge theory. I might do a survey or such, not sure... looking for leads, comments etc. Thanks Mike Archbold -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Pe

Re: [agi] Is this forum still happening?

rewards too On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 6:29 PM Matt Mahoney wrote: > Colin, it's been a while. How is your consciousness research going? Who > would have thought 20 years ago that AI would turn out to be nothing more > than text prediction usung neural networks on massive data sets and > computing p

Re: [agi] GPT-4 Turbo Fails AIC Test -- HARD

It tried to convert to an integer, but it didn't work. The code is not long though. print(bin(int('3789267014751262456487965320147'))[2:]) 1011010000101101011101110011001000110110101000010001000111011000010011 On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 6:26 AM James Bowery wrote: >

Re: [agi] GPT-4 Turbo Fails AIC Test -- HARD

I asked it to create a compress function, so it just zip'd it: import zlib s = '01000111001101001100011101100101010010110110001101011100110001100101001110100101011011010100011001110101101001110101' def compress(s): return zlib.compress(s.encode('ut

Re: [agi] GPT Vision is unbelievable

I think Bing Chat uses this version. I had it describing circuit diagrams uploaded -- I would say reasonably well with some mistakes. Still, pretty impressive! On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 12:00 PM stefan.reich.maker.of.eye via AGI < agi@agi.topicbox.com> wrote: > I might have to revise my assumption

Re: [agi] John Carmack on why he's going to put at least a decade into AGI

man, sorry, a bit of a conflation of recent events on my part... not my best effort On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 2:25 PM James Bowery wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 3:27 PM Mike Archbold wrote: > >> A lot of these people that are suddenly piling on the bandwagon to AGI --

Re: [agi] John Carmack on why he's going to put at least a decade into AGI

A lot of these people that are suddenly piling on the bandwagon to AGI -- if they say it doesn't take a lot of compute, not going to use LLMs, where were they the last 20+ years? " Unlike large language models like ChatGPT

Re: [agi] Re: How AI will kill us

It seems like the big wipeout (if it happens, it is not predestined) is more likely going to happen due to war or cooking up the atmosphere. On 9/8/23, Matt Mahoney wrote: > On Wed, Sep 6, 2023, 8:46 PM John Rose wrote: > >> On Wednesday, September 06, 2023, >> You’re omitting the massive impact

Re: [agi] Compressing Hume's Guillotine

I had to look up Hume's guillotine (I wonder how that caught on since he isn't French). "The is–ought problem, as articulated by the Scottish philosopher and historian David Hume, arises when one makes claims about what ought to be that are based solely on statements about what is." This is fascina

Re: [agi] Chomsky's apparently erroneous critique of LLMs isn't in error

The problem with AIT is you need a PhD to understand it, the On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 11:10 AM James Bowery wrote: > https://youtu.be/wPonuHqbNds?t=1199 > > Chomsky's apparently erroneous critique of Transformer-based LLMs is > actually correct in the larger sense. His apparent error? > > Ask Cha

Re: [agi] Problem when trying to combine reinforcement learning with language models

On 6/14/23, YKY (Yan King Yin, 甄景贤) wrote: > On Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 02:41 Mike Archbold wrote: > >> Personally I found the attached comment ageist, sexist, and racist > > > Yes, she's referring to the traditional "older white male" privilege which > pops up

Re: [agi] Problem when trying to combine reinforcement learning with language models

Personally I found the attached comment ageist, sexist, and racist On 6/13/23, James Bowery wrote: > On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 11:06 AM YKY (Yan King Yin, 甄景贤) < > generic.intellige...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> ... >> If someone tells the truth, it is not considered racist. >> > > Your passive voice

[agi] Integrating GPT and NARS, a Cognitive Architecture, by Patrick Hammer, PhD

Generative AI is breaking all records and is as hot as a technology can get. But can it go the distance and give us AGI? One tantalizing prospect is fusing large language models with cognitive architectures. Patrick Hammer has been pursing such a goal. Dr. Hammer will present: A NARS implemented

Re: [agi] I try MusicLM, and wow, take a look

When AI can top this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFOzayDpWoI I suppose a bit off topic On 5/16/23, Mike Archbold wrote: > Superworld 7 is kind of cool. It sounds at first like a radio station > in Morocco, then like somebody doing the polka, with visions of the > bar in the first

Re: [agi] I try MusicLM, and wow, take a look

Superworld 7 is kind of cool. It sounds at first like a radio station in Morocco, then like somebody doing the polka, with visions of the bar in the first Star Wars On 5/13/23, immortal.discover...@gmail.com wrote: > This is otherworldy. My top picks I generated are below, and if you want to > se

Re: [agi] from the WT actual F department....

Should be "tsarina" There first question should be: what is AI? Since we should know. It is not so simple. I think their definition is probably "it seems like it's real and we can't trust it." On 5/6/23, Alan Grimes via AGI wrote: > https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2023/05/04/kamala-harris-named-

Re: [agi] Re: AGI world

Finally, AI seems to have caught on, it's white hot! And such pessimism! On 5/3/23, immortal.discover...@gmail.com wrote: > Interesting post Matt. > > I bet anytime soon if not already we will just say what is that word or > phrase on my screen, never saw that word, GPT-4 what is that mean? And

Re: [agi] I think they won. OpenAI. They just did

On 4/2/23, stefan.reich.maker.of.eye via AGI wrote: > OpenAI & the other big boys. Mainly OpenAI. It seems like the materials are now available to create rudimentary AI, but I don't think I'd say they "won." Looking at my three requirements for AGI, that it can understand, reason, and judge

Re: [agi] Microsoft Research: "could reasonably be viewed as an early (yet still incomplete) version of an artificial general intelligence"

the paper, look for Gary Marcus to offer his usual critiques in the next few days and Emily Bender her usual ridicule. But neither of those two can offer anything remotely comparable. On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 6:42 PM Mike Archbold wrote: > Here they basically reveal their definition of "un

Re: [agi] Microsoft Research: "could reasonably be viewed as an early (yet still incomplete) version of an artificial general intelligence"

Here they basically reveal their definition of "understanding" "A question that might be lingering on many readers’ mind is whether GPT-4 truly understands all these concepts, or whether it just became much better than previous models at improvising on the fly, without any real or deep understandi

Re: [agi] Re: ISO experienced Rust dev to help build AGI

Probably strong typing and speed On Sat, Mar 4, 2023, 6:07 AM stefan.reich.maker.of.eye via AGI < agi@agi.topicbox.com> wrote: > I'd be very curious to hear what you see as the role of Rust in AGI if > you'd be willing to expand on it a little bit. (Trade secret?! :) > > Stefan > *Artificial Gene

[agi] John Oliver distinguishes AI / AGI

https://youtu.be/Sqa8Zo2XWc4 At the 9 minute mark Whereas it is common now to hear AGI, most on this list remember the days when the term was unknown to the tech community at large let alone the public.  -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Per

Re: [agi] Re: Fun with ChatGPT. How smart is it really?

It's progress. I think a lot of the nattering nabobs of AI negativity are blowing fuses criticizing it, but they miss the point. It still delivers on relatively mundane inquiries pretty reliably (seemingly). It's as reliable as the crap you read on anonymous message boards -- right now trust it no

Re: [agi] Re: Fun with ChatGPT. How smart is it really?

I think a lot of the benefit of ChatGPT is in more or less mundane questions like "what is the difference between capacitive reactance and resistance in general?" Answer: "Capacitive reactance and resistance are two distinct electrical quantities that are related to the flow of electrical current

Re: [agi] Re: chatGPT talks to me to make the pacman game

ChatGPT seems like a breakthrough to me. Claims are regularly made that such-and-such is a "breakthrough" but I think this is a breakthrough for real. Ease of use, reasonably good general results, code generation, what-not it is easy to trick and makes mistakes, still, it rock and rolls. On 1

[agi] Intellectual Property Issues for AI/AGI Startups by Dr Steven Colby of Rimon Law

This event will include some basic information on IP relevant to AGI startups, and particularly what not to do (common mistakes).  Sign up below. It's this Sunday the 4th at 12 pm Pacific Time. https://www.meetup.com/northwest-artificial-general-intelligence-meetup-group/events/289319912/

Re: [agi] Re: "Efficient Learning in AI" by Dr. Rachel St.Clair, Nov 20th @ 12pm Pacific Time

There is a bit of a typo in the date/time It should be "starts at 12 pm and ends at 1:30 pm" On 11/13/22, Boris Kazachenko wrote: > Consequences is way too coarse a driver for cognition. As a principal > mechanism anyway. Good enough for brainless evolution, but cognition is way > beyond that.

[agi] "Efficient Learning in AI" by Dr. Rachel St.Clair, Nov 20th @ 12pm Pacific Time

Everybody knows only the consequences matter in training and life in general, no doubt? Or is that always the case? In this talk, Dr Rachel St.Clair presents a dual-learning approach featuring both consequence feedback and non-consequence feedback. The goal is to link the neural basis of non-co

Re: [agi] Shaka, when the walls fell.

is that you in the bitchute.com video? You mad bro? On 11/2/22, Alan Grimes via AGI wrote: > I may be pre-mature by a week or two but man I've been waiting to write > this post for so long. > > entertaining rant about what's going on: > https://www.bitchute.com/video/TwL56G1N0BM/ > > Thankfully

Re: [agi] AGI Discussion Forum -- Alex Ororbia on new/better alternatives to backprop e.g. predictive coding == 7AM Pacific time Wed Sep 21

to that page: https://wiki.opencog.org/w/AGI_Discussion_Forum > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 6:03 PM Ben Goertzel wrote: > >> Video will be posted on AGI DIscussion Forum page on OpenCog wiki... >> >> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 1:13 PM Mike Archbold >> wrote: >>

Re: [agi] Re: panic factor = 6

It would help avoid a big recession if the present Tsar of Russia was shown the exit door! On 10/10/22, br...@adaptroninc.com wrote: > Mortgage rates have more than doubled this year as interest rates have > risen. > > As mortgages come up for renewal many people will not be able to afford > >

Re: [agi] Mentifex о концепциях

I've heard/seen enough from Russia already On Sun, Sep 25, 2022 at 5:42 PM A.T. Murray wrote: > > Чат-боты, начиная с Элизы много лет назад, имеют тенденцию не думать на самом > деле, а скорее предвосхищать ожидаемые входные данные и выдавать готовые > ответы, чтобы ответить на входные данные.

Re: [agi] AGI Discussion Forum -- Alex Ororbia on new/better alternatives to backprop e.g. predictive coding == 7AM Pacific time Wed Sep 21

Thanks. Where do you guys post the video? Thanks On 9/20/22, Ben Goertzel wrote: > (note this one is Wed rather than Fri ...) > > September 21, 2022, 7AM-8:30AM PST: Dr. Alexander G. Ororbia > "Brain-Inspired Computing: Going Beyond Backpropagation of Errors" ... > Videoconference at: https://si

[agi] Online Presentation by Hugo Latapie: "Time Binding Artificial Intelligence - A Next Step on the Path to AGI," this Sunday 09/18, 1 pm Pacific Time

Time Binding Artificial Intelligence - A Next Step on the Path to AGI Register here: https://www.meetup.com/northwest-artificial-general-intelligence-meetup-group/events/288035852/ The Northwest AGI Forum is pleased to welcome a presentation by Hugo Latapie (bio follows synopsis) There is a g

[agi] Experimental Epistemology -- Presentation by Monica Anderson

Monica Anderson returns to the forum tomorrow, Sunday at noon, optional hallway talk (video/audio/chat/lurk) starts at 11:30am. https://www.meetup.com/northwest-artificial-general-intelligence-meetup-group/events/287210342/ -- Artificial General Intelligenc

Re: [agi] Congrats AGI 2022!! and a bit of off-conference contribution

On the last day the same team did a step-by-step walkthrough of how to fire up their deep reinforcement learner. I want to try it... On 8/24/22, YKY (Yan King Yin, 甄景贤) wrote: > On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 2:54 PM Mike Archbold wrote: > >> It was a great conference, I'm still b

Re: [agi] Congrats AGI 2022!! and a bit of off-conference contribution

It was a great conference, I'm still buzzed... 2nd one I've been to live, and yes, much material to review... You saw the Chris Poulin,"Open Source Deep Reinforcement Learning" I assume (?) On 8/22/22, YKY (Yan King Yin, 甄景贤) wrote: > Congratulations on this successful event. > I think Ben and

Re: [agi] John Carmack raises $20M to develop AGI

Small amount of code, he alludes to a finite set of first principles. I don't think one developer could write it though... The $20,000,000.00 I would like... On 8/19/22, Brett N Martensen wrote: > The 16 minutes out of the 5 hours that he speaks about AGI are here; > https://www.youtube.com/watch

Re: [agi] NY Times article about Ben Goertzel's Desdemona

Let's hear: One bourbon One scotch One Sofia On 8/8/22, John Rose wrote: > We need some hybrid audio snippets Ben! > > Or a few scores at least? -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T13760714fc830b3

Re: [agi] NY Times article about Ben Goertzel's Desdemona

no bass and drums :) ? On 8/5/22, Bill Hibbard via AGI wrote: > Nice work, Ben: > https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/05/technology/ai-sentient-google.html -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T1376071

[agi] Reminder, in-person social AGI tomorrow in Seattle

Have a drink, buy yourself some good chow, and talk AGI if you are in the greater Seattle area tomorrow, Friday the 24th at 7pm. It's not far from the subway. https://www.meetup.com/northwest-artificial-general-intelligence-meetup-group/events/286366529/ --

Re: [agi] Re: New article: EM Field Theory of Consciousness

I'm about 1/2 through the paper. It's fun to read, interesting, sounds like you. By fun, I mean eg., "easy to pick from a choice of one option" (paraphrased). I think the ABC-Correlates issue is pervasive in all AI/AGI period. Pick up virtually any book related to AGI, in any way, including the on

Re: [agi] New article: EM Field Theory of Consciousness

Personally I always like reading "no general-purpose computing, no software, no models, no programming"... I will put this on my list to read. It looks like a lot of work. On 6/17/22, Greg Staskowski wrote: > I'll see your new chip and raise you Intel and NUfab at Northwestern and ok > fine you'v

Re: [agi] Gato vs GPT-3 (& Dalle*2, etc)

Actually it seems like it is part of the OpenAI sales pitch. They are saying they are in the "AGI space" and banking on people applying the Turing test. If it seems like it is AGI it's AGI. That's the cold-blooded marketing plan. And they have a lot of money and a lot of computing power to sell it.

Re: [agi] Gato vs GPT-3 (& Dalle*2, etc)

I think the public will be satisfied with AI and think it is AGI if it passes the Turing test for them. Developers will never be satisfied with just that, since we'll naturally suspect it's a trick. The developers are a micro-minority. On 6/10/22, Greg Staskowski wrote: > The Turing Test i

[agi] AGI In-Person Social Meetup Seattle June 24th 7pm - 9pm

There will be at least one informal project presentation(s). Lance (co-organizer) is working on a transformer-based search. If you are around the Pacific Northwest on Friday, June 24, 2022 7:00 PM to 9:00 PM PDT Elysian Capitol Hill Brewery 1221 E Pike St · Seattle, WA https://www.meetup.com/nor

Re: [agi] Re: Coming up: Gazelle ERASER

Stefan, why would somebody want an eraser? On 5/26/22, stefan.reich.maker.of.eye via AGI wrote: > Explanation:  > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qey2N33hBgg&ab_channel=StefanReich&t=2940 -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi

Re: [agi] Thoughts on Judgments

utput of the software (ie.,, the "judgment") but it seems now, who cares what decision the machine makes, so long it corresponds to the test data in a close enough statistcal fashion? -- the answer is AI ethicists and the problem of bias. On 5/20/22, Mike Archbold wrote: > Robert,

Re: [agi] Thoughts on Judgments

Robert, Thanks for the tip on the book -- I will order a copy. He sounds a bit like Kant who basically held the judgment to be ... from Stanford Philo Encyclopedia: Kant’s taking the innate capacity for judgment to be the central cognitive faculty of the human mind, in the sense that judgment, alo

Re: [agi] Thoughts on Judgments

Boris, well, personally I don't think there is a need for a strict "top level," but I do believe that we often focus on a single proposition -- but it is in a coherent totality, not necessarily top level. Thanks for the Yann LC comment, sounds like him... On 5/20/22, Boris Kazachenko wrote: > Th

Re: [agi] Thoughts on Judgments

been > a tremendous help. Instead of trying to cram my own opinions into the AGI, > it needs to be able to interpret reality on its own, and learn to reflect > on its own judgements like a child. From an AI Safety perspective I've > embarked on what I call Pathology First Development, w

Re: [agi] Thoughts on Judgments

have it all figured out, but this past year of sabbatical has been > a tremendous help. Instead of trying to cram my own opinions into the AGI, > it needs to be able to interpret reality on its own, and learn to reflect > on its own judgements like a child. From an AI Safety perspective I'v

[agi] Thoughts on Judgments

MOTIVATIONS Is the following fair? * There seems to be a prevailing, tacit climate of opinion in AI that a judgment is correct primarily if it is 1) equivalent to prior human-caused judgments (supervised) or 2) due to rewards. *Thus there seems to be no need for developers to concern themselves

[agi] This Sunday, AGI event w/ Boris Kazachenko, afternoon in US, evening in Europe/Africa

Scalable GI as comparison-first pixels-up hierarchical connectivity clustering The Northwest AGI Forum welcomes Boris Kazachenko. Boris has been a fixture in the independent AGI community for over a decade. Click here for details and to attend on Zoom: https://www.meetup.com/Northwest-Artificial-

Re: [agi] From Transformers to AGI

Have you experimented yet with code? I always find your ideas interesting. The goal in the present era of AI is to find a way to create hybrid old and new AI. The deepmind work lately looks a bit AIT (old AI) like but with neurons "under the hood." On Sat, May 14, 2022, 9:50 AM YKY (Yan King Yin,

Re: [agi] Re: Presentation to Northwest AGI Forum

I got a feel for the way abstractions are formed. We can keep the debate going as Boris will be presenting in May :) On 5/1/22, stefan.reich.maker.of.eye via AGI wrote: > Hey Brett :) > > If I'm honest, during the talk, I was actually hoping for a bunch more > concrete examples to motivate ev

[agi] Sunday on Zoom: Join the Northwest AGI Forum for a presentation by Brett N. Martensen, Adaptron Inc.

Join us on Sunday, April 24, 2022 1:00 PM to 2:30 PM PDT (mid afternoon on the east coast and evening in Europe, 6am Monday in Australia) Brett has put a lot of work into his binon theory. The topic for this presentation is the nature of how intelligent agents rely upon the representation of invar

Re: [agi] Re: Orbai

I get the feeling that patents are not particularly useful for startups, but they do have value in fundraising. Investors are more likely to favor a startup with than without patents. But actually enforcing a patent (assuming it is ever granted) is supposedly not a likelihood. We are inventors, we

[agi] Orbai

I subscribe to an alert for AGI, and every now and again something new pops up. https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/568076808/orbai-file-patent-on-artificial-general-intelligence-methods -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topic

Re: [agi] Re: AGI in the news

Thanks. This is coming back to me now... I remember, it is led by physics-first Geordie Rose (copy/paste from "about"). He's got some videos worth investing time in on youtube. ~ Geordie Rose Co-Founder & CEO Geordie founded D­-Wave, the world’s first quantum computing company, and was t

Re: [agi] Re: AGI requirements and the Adaptron cognitive architecture - new presentations

Register for Brett's upcoming presentation: April 24th @ 1pm Pacific Time https://www.meetup.com/Northwest-Artificial-General-Intelligence-Meetup-Group/events/284163188/ On 3/27/22, Brett N Martensen wrote: > Wikipedia provides a reasonably easy to read description of the forward and > inverse m

[agi] AGI in the news

This Canadian AI Startup is Using Artificial General Intelligence To Create General-Purpose Robots With Human-like Intelligence By Amreen Bawa -March 27, 2022 https://www.marktechpost.com/2022/03/27/this-canadian-ai-startup-is-using-artificial-general-intelligence-to-create-general-purpose-robots-

Re: [agi] Sunday afternoon consciousness philosophizing, starts an hour from posting...

Sorry, it's already over On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 4:50 PM Andrés Gómez Emilsson wrote: > > What time? :-) > > - Andrés > Director of Research at the Qualia Research Institute > (https://www.qualiaresearchinstitute.org/) > > On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 12:09 PM Mike A

[agi] Sunday afternoon consciousness philosophizing, starts an hour from posting...

If you feel like some Sunday consciousness philosophizing that definitely is not "brain in a vat" join us for a discussion of his book at this event: "Feeling and Knowing" by neuroscientist Antonio Damasio. He essentially argues in a series of short self contained essays that to understand intelli

Re: [agi] Re: A line in the sand for EM field Theories of Consciousness (EM ToC)

I always find your work refreshing (and it did take my mind of the assault on the free world) "neuroscience mixed with EM physics locates the center of the study of consciousness." It seems like it. On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 12:31 PM Colin Hales wrote: > > Ok. The sound bite summary from an

Re: [agi] IBM and AGI

perate measures to retain that position. > > On 2 Feb 2022 01:55, "Mike Archbold" wrote: >> >> This is a link to their neuro-symbolic Github. >> >> https://github.com/IBM/neuro-symbolic-ai-toolkit >> >> "The Neuro-Symbolic AI (NS) initiati

[agi] IBM and AGI

This is a link to their neuro-symbolic Github. https://github.com/IBM/neuro-symbolic-ai-toolkit "The Neuro-Symbolic AI (NS) initiative at IBM aims to conceive a fundamental new methodology for AI, to address the gaps remaining between today's state-of-the-art and the full goals of AI, including A

Re: [agi] AGI Discussion Forum -- Jan 28, 7AM Pacific time -- What Makes a Theorem Interesting?

money On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 11:38 PM Ben Goertzel wrote: > > Next discussion forum coming up!! -- > > * Jan 28, 2022, 7AM-8:30AM Pacific time: Ben Goertzel on "What Makes a > Theorem Interesting?", https://singularitynet.zoom.us/my/benbot > > https://wiki.opencog.org/w/AGI_Discussion_Forum#S

Re: [agi] TrueAGI

Check the law on this... it's not black and white. On 1/3/22, stefan.reich.maker.of.eye via AGI wrote: > So is there a registered trademark too or just Intarweb URLs? -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/

Re: [agi] TrueAGI

AI has always suffered a moving the goalpost problem. One everybody is on to the "trick" then it isn't AI. So maybe something more like TruePresentGoalPostAGI.com ? On 1/2/22, immortal.discover...@gmail.com wrote: > Isn't AGI AGI when it can beat Super Mario 64 for the Nintendo machine? > Game'

Re: [agi] TrueAGI

Trademark aside, now for the true AGI ;) ? On 1/1/22, Ben Goertzel wrote: > And on GitHub what I find is an empty list of AGI resources > > https://github.com/True-AGI > > Trademark search via TESS also does not yield any prior registered > trademarks for TrueAGI > > So I can see how someone doi

[agi] Being You (by Anil Seth) Book Review

Lance Hughes, co-organizer of this meetup, is hosting a talk on the new book: "Being You: A New Science of Consciousness" Anil Seth https://www.amazon.com/Being-You-New-Science-Consciousness-ebook/dp/B08W2J9WWD Sunday, December 19, 2021 7:00 PM to 9:00 PM Pacific Time It's a pretty fast read if

Re: [agi] Toward formalization of Hyperon's MeTTa language in terms of metagraph rewrite rules

A "language of thought" sounds like a "language of concepts." On Sun, Dec 12, 2021, 10:06 AM Ben Goertzel wrote: > New rough draft, work in progress, subject to revisions etc. > > https://wiki.opencog.org/w/File:A_Formalization_of_Hyperon_MeTTa_language_in_terms_of_metagraph_rewriting.pdf > >

Re: [agi] Re: The UN weighs in on AI

Did you guys (using the gender neutral "guys") see Kissinger published a book on AI? Everybody is piling into the act. On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 10:21 AM wrote: > > TLDR, they are interested. Was boring read really. > Artificial General Intelligence List / AGI / see discussions + participants + > d

Re: [agi] drug name

e via AGI wrote: > On Monday, November 29, 2021, at 3:58 AM, Mike Archbold wrote: >> y strategy is do nothing until I hear reports of fully vaccinated > people in the hospital. > Fair enough. I believe this is already happening to a degree but the news > are suppressed. If I am

Re: [agi] Mentifex diagams consciousness.

. On 11/29/21, Mike Archbold wrote: > It's become a lot better than it used to be. When I was playing (I > played through high school) you had to be very, very unbalanced to be > taken out of the game. I no doubt had concussions and kept playing. I > played in about 70 collisi

Re: [agi] Mentifex diagams consciousness.

It's become a lot better than it used to be. When I was playing (I played through high school) you had to be very, very unbalanced to be taken out of the game. I no doubt had concussions and kept playing. I played in about 70 collision football games. The brain can take a pounding and still work

Re: [agi] drug name

I'm going to steer clear of politics with the AGI crowd. My strategy is do nothing until I hear reports of fully vaccinated people in the hospital. On 11/28/21, John Rose wrote: > On Sunday, November 28, 2021, at 8:47 PM, stefan.reich.maker.of.eye wrote: >> If the vaccine is indeed a poison, the

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