Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer creates life [Attn. Notary]

2020-07-07 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 2020-07-08 00:39, N. S. via agora-discussion wrote: yep, i'm also quite sure that this works, a person can consent entirely by contract and consenting is sufficient to create a contract. this could be called, quite circular. Well, dang. Sorry, ATMunn. I tried. -- Trigon I LOVE SPAGHETTI tr

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer creates life [Attn. Notary]

2020-07-07 Thread N. S. via agora-discussion
yep, i'm also quite sure that this works, a person can consent entirely by contract and consenting is sufficient to create a contract. this could be called, quite circular. On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 4:30 PM omd via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > at 11:26 PM, Reuben Stal

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Contract] Public Lockers

2020-07-07 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 11:20 PM omd via agora-discussion wrote: > > at 11:06 PM, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion > wrote: > > > I think that having single-party contracts feels / is safer. You can > > arbitrarily amend it without needing to rely on anyone else and nobody else > > can join it whi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer creates life [Attn. Notary]

2020-07-07 Thread omd via agora-discussion
at 11:26 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: On 2020-07-07 23:59, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote: I have no idea if this works, but it might be useful for certain applications. Experimentation!!! I create the following contract called "Contracoli": Cuddlebeam is the sole

DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer creates life [Attn. Notary]

2020-07-07 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 2020-07-07 23:59, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote: I have no idea if this works, but it might be useful for certain applications. Experimentation!!! I create the following contract called "Contracoli": Cuddlebeam is the sole member to this contract. After 24 hours have passed since

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Contract] Public Lockers

2020-07-07 Thread omd via agora-discussion
at 11:06 PM, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote: I think that having single-party contracts feels / is safer. You can arbitrarily amend it without needing to rely on anyone else and nobody else can join it which adds another layer of speculative protection. I don’t think single-party co

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: just a normal action

2020-07-07 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 11:15 PM Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > ATEOISIDTIDWHPAFALT > > lmfao what is this See this [1]. [1] http://zenith.homelinux.net/agora_acronyms.php -Aris

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: just a normal action

2020-07-07 Thread N. S. via agora-discussion
it's a nonsense acronym meant to refer to "ISIDTID" (i said i did therefore i did), which is the agoran fallacy that you can do anything as long as you say so. On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 4:15 PM Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > ATEOISIDTIDWHPAFALT > > lmf

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: just a normal action

2020-07-07 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
> ATEOISIDTIDWHPAFALT lmfao what is this On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 2:12 AM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 5:00 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > On 7/7/20 7:55 PM, ATMunn via ag

DIS: Re: BUS: [Contract] Public Lockers

2020-07-07 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
I think that having single-party contracts feels / is safer. You can arbitrarily amend it without needing to rely on anyone else and nobody else can join it which adds another layer of speculative protection. On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 12:03 AM ATMunn via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org

DIS: Re: BUS: [@Treasuror] Re: OFF: [Assessor] Rewards for Proposals 8459-8472

2020-07-07 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/7/20 9:46 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > > On 7/7/2020 6:27 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote: >> For the adoption of Proposal 8460, I grant G. 11-0=11 coins. > I grant myself a legislative card for this proposal. -G. > > > This is INEFFECTIVE. The popularity of P8460 is 0

Re: [Parley] Stricter Tattle-Taling Rules (Re: @ Notary Pledge Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Shiny Loot)

2020-07-07 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 5:48 PM ATMunn via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 7/7/2020 8:44 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > > I object. We're planning to auction these off (or at least there is/was a > > proposal in the pipeline to do so). > > > > -Aris >

Re: [Parley] Stricter Tattle-Taling Rules (Re: @ Notary Pledge Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Shiny Loot)

2020-07-07 Thread N. S. via agora-discussion
well the intent to transfer the promise is npwhere quoted in aris's message, so it certainly didn't work! On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 10:48 AM ATMunn via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 7/7/2020 8:44 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > > I object. We're planni

Re: [Parley] Stricter Tattle-Taling Rules (Re: @ Notary Pledge Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Shiny Loot)

2020-07-07 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
On 7/7/2020 8:44 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: I object. We're planning to auction these off (or at least there is/was a proposal in the pipeline to do so). -Aris Is this an objection to the Parley or the intent to transfer the promise? I assume the latter? -- ATMunn friendly ne

DIS: Re: BUS: Shiny Loot

2020-07-07 Thread N. S. via agora-discussion
Distributing this promise would be easy because it's just 200 coins, which we could Parley to extract from omd and then evenly distribute that. On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 10:18 AM ATMunn via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 7/7/2020 8:10 PM, N. S. via agora-business wrote:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: just a normal action

2020-07-07 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 5:00 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 7/7/20 7:55 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: > > I cease to exist. > > > > This is probably a regulated action because it would change information > for which the Registrar is the reco

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: just a normal action

2020-07-07 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
On 7/7/2020 8:00 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: On 7/7/20 7:55 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: I cease to exist. This is probably a regulated action because it would change information for which the Registrar is the recordkeepor, and thus you would need a method provided by a

DIS: @Arbitor contract leaving CFJ

2020-07-07 Thread N. S. via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 10:02 AM Jason Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 7/7/20 8:01 PM, N. S. via agora-business wrote: > > Ok I CFJ: "I am no longer a party to Trigon's 6th secret contract" > > > > Argument: That contract says in relevant part" "No party can lea

DIS: Re: BUS: just a normal action

2020-07-07 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/7/20 7:55 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: > I cease to exist. > This is probably a regulated action because it would change information for which the Registrar is the recordkeepor, and thus you would need a method provided by a statute to cease to exist -- Jason Cobb

[@R. Lee] Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Secret Contracts

2020-07-07 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 2020-07-07 17:54, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: The contract says "No party can leave this contract until the Secret Action has been performed." Seriously, I put that in there? Weird. If I am the only party to Secret Contract No. 6, I amend the contract by removing the sentence beginn

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Secret Contracts

2020-07-07 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
The contract says "No party can leave this contract until the Secret Action has been performed." On 7/7/2020 7:43 PM, N. S. via agora-business wrote: i have one card now, i cease to be a member of contract 6 though On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 9:40 AM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion < agora-discus

DIS: Re: BUS: Secret Contracts

2020-07-07 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 2020-07-07 17:03, N. S. via agora-business wrote: I become a party to each of Trigon's secret contracts. I feel obligated to bring this up. Contract 3 states: Parties to this contract SHOULD have at least one card when the Secret Action is performed. and Contract 6 states: Parties to th

DIS: Re: BUS: [Contract] Public Lockers

2020-07-07 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/7/20 6:02 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: > When a person transfers any number of assets to this contract, those > assets are considered to be in eir account. A party to this contract CAN > transfer any number of assets from eir account to emself. Attempts to > transfer more assets to ems

Re: DIS: [LoAFER] [Poll] Thread of Grievances @Officers

2020-07-07 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
The text of the contract. Basically so people can see "what does this contract do?" without having to read through the text. Apologies if that was not clear. On 7/7/2020 5:00 PM, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote: what would contract summaries involve? a summary of their text content or the

DIS: Re: BUS: [Pledge] Contract Summaries

2020-07-07 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 2020-07-04 11:08, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: I pledge to transfer 3 coins to every person who submits a 1-2 sentence summary of a contract e is party to. If a person submits summaries for multiple contracts, I will transfer 3 coins for every contract e submitted a summary for. Multiple

Re: DIS: [LoAFER] [Poll] Thread of Grievances @Officers

2020-07-07 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
what would contract summaries involve? a summary of their text content or the actions taken? On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 9:22 PM ATMunn via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I think this is a worthwhile thread to use, so I'll bump it and go > first: > > Honestly, I'm pretty

Re: DIS: [Protos] Some ideas I've been kicking around

2020-07-07 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 7/7/2020 1:09 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > On 2020-07-07 13:59, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 7/7/2020 3:54 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: >>> >>> On 7/7/2020 12:28 PM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: ADoP: 2 Arbitor: 1 >>> >>> If we

Re: DIS: [Protos] Some ideas I've been kicking around

2020-07-07 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 2020-07-07 13:59, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: On 7/7/2020 3:54 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: On 7/7/2020 12:28 PM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: ADoP: 2 Arbitor: 1 If we got this route I might see about formalizing the CotC?  The strict Arbitor's duties (which c

Re: DIS: [Protos] Some ideas I've been kicking around

2020-07-07 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
On 7/7/2020 3:54 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: On 7/7/2020 12:28 PM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: ADoP: 2 Arbitor: 1 If we got this route I might see about formalizing the CotC? The strict Arbitor's duties (which can just be assignment on the fly and few records kept) is

Re: DIS: [Protos] Some ideas I've been kicking around

2020-07-07 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 7/7/2020 12:28 PM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: > > ADoP: 2 > Arbitor: 1 If we got this route I might see about formalizing the CotC? The strict Arbitor's duties (which can just be assignment on the fly and few records kept) is probably a 1, but keeping it organized/archived is where

Re: DIS: [Protos] Some ideas I've been kicking around

2020-07-07 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 2020-07-07 13:28, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: On 7/7/2020 2:24 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: Title: Offices are complex AI: 1 Enact a new power-1 rule entitled "Complexity" with the text:    Complexity is an office switch with the possible values of all    int

Re: DIS: [Protos] Some ideas I've been kicking around

2020-07-07 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
On 7/7/2020 2:24 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: Title: Offices are complex AI: 1 Enact a new power-1 rule entitled "Complexity" with the text:   Complexity is an office switch with the possible values of all   integers from 0 to 3 inclusive, where 1 is the default. It i

Re: DIS: [LoAFER] [Poll] Thread of Grievances @Officers

2020-07-07 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
I think this is a worthwhile thread to use, so I'll bump it and go first: Honestly, I'm pretty content at this point. Things were crazy when I first got the office because people were making tons of proposals, but now that things have settled down, it's not too bad. People generally seem to remem

DIS: [Protos] Some ideas I've been kicking around

2020-07-07 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
I have a couple protos I'd like some feedback on. I think these would both be good additions but they're just drafts at this point. --- Title: If it's not pending we don't care AI: 3 Amend Rule 1607 "Distribution" by removing the following paragraphs: - The paragraph beginning "If a proposal h

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Victory Auction: July 2020

2020-07-07 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
> I officially declare that all fractional and decimal bids placed on this auction DID NOT HAPPEN. What fractional and decimal bids? What are you talking about? On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 7:17 PM Reuben Staley via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 2020-07-07 11:13, Jason Co

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Victory Auction: July 2020

2020-07-07 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/7/20 12:01 PM, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote: > I bid 35.0001 coins I may have started this, but it doesn't actually work. Rule 2509 says: > A "number" is considered to refer to a real number, unless > otherwise explicitly specified. A "n

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Victory Auction: July 2020

2020-07-07 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 7/7/2020 9:28 AM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > On 2020-07-07 10:23, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 7/7/2020 9:12 AM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: >>> On 2020-07-07 10:08, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: On 7/7/20 12:06 PM, Reuben Staley vi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Victory Auction: July 2020

2020-07-07 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 7/7/2020 9:23 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On 7/7/2020 9:12 AM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 2020-07-07 10:08, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: >>> On 7/7/20 12:06 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: On 2020-07-07 10:01, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wr

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Victory Auction: July 2020

2020-07-07 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 2020-07-07 10:23, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: On 7/7/2020 9:12 AM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: On 2020-07-07 10:08, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: On 7/7/20 12:06 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: On 2020-07-07 10:01, Cuddle Beam via agora-busi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Victory Auction: July 2020

2020-07-07 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 7/7/2020 9:12 AM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > On 2020-07-07 10:08, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 7/7/20 12:06 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: >>> On 2020-07-07 10:01, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote: I bid 35.00

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Victory Auction: July 2020

2020-07-07 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 2020-07-07 10:08, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: On 7/7/20 12:06 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: On 2020-07-07 10:01, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote: I bid 35.0001 coins This is funny and all, but I should probably mention that fra

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Victory Auction: July 2020

2020-07-07 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/7/20 12:06 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > On 2020-07-07 10:01, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote: >> I bid 35.0001 coins > This is funny and all, but I should probably mention that fractional and > decimal bids are likely unpayable since the

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Victory Auction: July 2020

2020-07-07 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 2020-07-07 10:01, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote: I bid 35.0001 coins This is funny and all, but I should probably mention that fractional and decimal bids are likely unpayable since the auction logic I'm using require fee-based actions to claim prizes

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Metareport (attempted, also attn Treasuror)

2020-07-07 Thread N. S. via agora-discussion
yet another unintuitive way this switch works (but yes e gets 2 extra votes on econ proposals) Btw Notice of Honour +1 Trigon for a really tough report in a crazy week -1 Murphy, I actually am upset that you stole ADoP from me on a technicality despite the fact that I won two elections for it. O

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Victory Auction: July 2020

2020-07-07 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
I bid 26. If we end up in obscene numbers I'm up for pooling cash On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 2:34 AM nch via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 7/6/20 7:10 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > > On 7/6/20 8:07 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: > >> On 7/6/2020 8:01