DIS: Name change

2020-11-22 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn via agora-discussion
I'm still not a player, and have no concrete plans for ever playing again. But I do feel a great comfort from seeing all the Agora traffic chugging along in the Forums tab of my gmail, so now that I'm legally changing my name and migrating to another account, I'm making sure to sign up with the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: @Arbitor Sillyness

2020-07-24 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn via agora-discussion
On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 at 17:55, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > > On 7/24/2020 5:08 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn via agora-discussion wrote: > > > > -Tiger > > > > Didn't process your signature at first then did a double-take. Hi!! > -G. > Hello! Lon

DIS: Re: BUS: @Arbitor Sillyness

2020-07-24 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn via agora-discussion
On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 at 11:41, N. S. via agora-business wrote: > > So there's precedent that you can basically take a shortcut to do many > actions (a loop of them) as long as it is reasonable that you could perform > those actions by writing them out. > > Therefore, I call N CFJs with the

DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer becomes a demiruge of a sort

2018-10-01 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 19:13, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > I pledge the following: I pledge to be the recordkeepor of absolutely > everything. > > I then CFJ the following: Non-regulated actions cannot be performed. > > Grat. Arguments for that CFJ: > - From R2125: (3) the action would, as part of its

DIS: The 3d6 constitution, and my thanks for the inspiration

2018-08-26 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
Hello Agora, It was a long time since I played here, and I hope you'll forgive me for popping in just to promote a thing. I've written the 3d6 Constitution, which is a set of RPG rules realised as a body of law: https://jonatankilhamn.github.io/3d6constitution/ I sort of fell into emulating the

Re: DIS: Ideas from a bastion of democracy

2016-10-20 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 20 October 2016 at 19:01, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Thu, 20 Oct 2016, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > - One set of election rules is too much centralized power. > > We should divide Agora into multiple segments, each with their own > > distinct rules for election, which are

DIS: Re: BUS: and not to forget...

2016-06-30 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 30 June 2016 at 03:41, nichdel wrote: > > > On 06/29/2016 07:00 PM, Gaelan Bright Steele wrote: > >> On Jun 29, 2016, at 4:57 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Happy Birthday, Agora!!! >>> >>> >>> >>> Happy Birthday, Agora >> > > Happy

DIS: Re: BUS: check in with the front desk to hold your reservation

2016-02-16 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 15 February 2016 at 21:20, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Consider this a final warning if you have not yet checked in; > I'll resolve this in ~8 hours (intent expires in about 18 hours). > > (sorry, meant to get the warning & CFJ assignments out yesterday; > aiming for

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Perfect Failure Detection

2015-08-20 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 20 August 2015 at 04:52, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: On Wed, 2015-08-19 at 21:01 -0400, omd wrote: On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 8:31 PM, woggle woggl...@gmail.com wrote: I was aware of this. You may notice I failed to send the intent to agora-business. Proposal: in the announcement

DIS: Re: BUS: could agora be nearly web 2.0?

2015-08-18 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 17 August 2015 at 07:21, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: comment, please: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/agora/rules/ Neat! Not searchable by ctrl-f. Could that be arranged? -- - Tiger

Re: DIS: slr on bak

2015-08-04 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 4 August 2015 at 12:31, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: After Quaize chimed in, I posted this week's slr to bak, thought it would be fun if it caught attention of any other alumni. Seems to have made it to bak web archives but it didn't come back to me: did anyone else get it?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: carding around

2015-07-12 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 12 July 2015 at 22:34, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: On Sun, 2015-07-12 at 13:28 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: I am currently in the process of issuing a Green Card. I am a Wombat. I issue a Green Card to myself, for publishing information that was inaccurate while performing an

DIS: Spending power / pending proposals as economy (loose thoughts)

2015-07-12 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
One of schunt's recent proposals went even further with the idea that being able to make a proposal pending is the Coolest Thing in this game, a power worth working for, and a worthy Promotor-related Cabinet Order. However, I have this great idea for a rule change, and it would get votes, but I

DIS: Re: BUS: proto: moot fix

2015-04-28 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
3. The Cautious CAN resolve the Moot 4 or more days after initiating it, and SHALL do so within 14 days of initiating it. E does so by announcing the selection of a single option of eir choice from among all valid options that received the most

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] 2015's first proposals

2015-01-20 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 20 January 2015 at 23:19, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: On Tue, 2015-01-20 at 14:01 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Tue, 20 Jan 2015, Alex Smith wrote: On Tue, 2015-01-20 at 13:28 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: 7730* Henri 1.0 Monthly Deportation I just noticed that

DIS: Re: OFF: [King Azaz] Word Overload

2014-11-24 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 25 November 2014 at 01:53, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: Word Card holdings: -- Tiger a / be / its / person's / recordkeeper / the So, do I have recordkeeper or not?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: restricted distribution

2014-10-31 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 31 October 2014 00:14, Ørjan Johansen oer...@nvg.ntnu.no wrote: On Thu, 30 Oct 2014, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: The Rulekeepor, Speaker and Prime Minister each have a spending power of 2. The Promotor has a spending power of 4. Changes to imminence and spending power both

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Province?

2014-10-30 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 30 October 2014 04:45, Tanner Swett tannersw...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 24, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: I punch the Bard in the face. Inside the inn, we find the Bard and some unknown character, whom we designate AQ. The Bard is singing merrily, and AQ, evidently growing

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: restricted distribution

2014-10-30 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 30 October 2014 18:07, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: I retract the proposal Restricted distribution. I submit the following proposal (an edited version): [...] I didn't come up with any good solution for the rule about not changing the attribute of proposals after

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: restricted distribution

2014-10-30 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 30 October 2014 19:05, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: I retract the proposal Restricted distribution. I submit the following proposal (an edited version): Still contains the swich typo. Regarding

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: restricted distribution

2014-10-28 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 27 October 2014 20:59, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: The Promotor CAN distribute a proposal which is in the Proposal Pool at any time. The Promotor SHALL not distribute proposals which

Re: DIS: Protos: bring back contracts!

2014-10-27 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 27 October 2014 17:57, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I blurred things a bit. You could put stuff in the Proposal Pool for free, so the writing was free. Distribution to voting has a cost. But part of the game was putting a proposal in the Pool, then figuring out if you had

Re: DIS: Protos: bring back contracts!

2014-10-27 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 27 October 2014 19:33, Sprocklem sprock...@gmail.com wrote: On 2014-10-27 12:24, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: Now I imagine a game where this is the only source of proposal distributions, so that every officer can set their own price (bribe) for distributing someone else's proposal... An obvious

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7698-7710

2014-10-27 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 27 October 2014 20:34, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Sprocklem sprock...@gmail.com wrote: 7706 3 omd Fast Track AGAINST. This is IMO a terrible way to go about this and the Expedition proposal seems, at least at a cursory glance, better

DIS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Elections!!!11

2014-10-26 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 26 October 2014 21:59, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: It's been a long time. Some might say we're overdue. But now the WAIT is OVER! I initiate elections for the following offices: First off, there are several VACANCIES to fill! #1: Prime Minister. With minimal duties and an extra

DIS: Re: BUS: Has it really been two months already?

2014-10-24 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 24 October 2014 16:18, Tanner Swett tannersw...@gmail.com wrote: I submit a proposal, titled Deplatonification, with an adoption index of 1.1: Change the power of Rule 2436 The Province of Agora to 1, and amend it to read as follows: The Province of Agora is a subgame whose state

DIS: Re: BUS: Province?

2014-10-24 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 24 October 2014 19:36, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Fri, 24 Oct 2014, Tanner Swett wrote: I create a Province character called Redgroat. Redgroat looks around. La la la. I am a Bard. La la la, you don't know my name, you can just call me the Bard. Or that $##$%#$

Re: DIS: Two Days to Bet... place bets please!

2014-10-23 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 23 October 2014 22:10, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: ODDS for CURRENT WEEK'S GNP Bet up to 100 Florins via Discussion or Private Message BETTING CLOSES 24 HOURS BEFORE WEEK ENDS (SATURDAY 23:59:59.... GMT) GNPODDS 43+10 to 1 37-42 2

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Fast Track

2014-10-21 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 21 October 2014 18:28, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Am I reading this wrong or does this allow any proposal to be adopted with 2 support? Where's the actual vote count? With 2 support and 0 objections, yes; that's how I read it too. -- Tiger

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Fast Track

2014-10-21 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 21 October 2014 18:42, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2014, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: On 21 October 2014 18:28, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Am I reading this wrong or does this allow any proposal to be adopted with 2 support? Where's the actual

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Minister for GNP Evaluation] Weekly GNP Analysis Report

2014-10-15 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 14 October 2014 21:24, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2014, Eritivus wrote: Image: https://eritivus.s3.amazonaws.com/agora/mfgnpe/gnp/20141013.png |--+-+--| | Week | GNP | 100% | |--+-+--|

DIS: Re: BUS: quick count

2014-10-02 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 2 October 2014 19:03, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: metaphorical hands (or chairs) up if you are interested enough in judging and are also around this/next week to judge a case on time. -G. I don't know if I have a chair from before, but if I have I return it. I will not

DIS: Re: BUS: long way around, with added legalese

2014-07-29 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 29 July 2014 22:46, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Tue, 29 Jul 2014, woggle wrote: On 07/29/2014 01:19 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: I intend, Without Objection, to ratify the following document. The document contains an error, as I have not met any winning conditions. The

DIS: Re: [Rulekeepor] Re: OFF: Voting Results for Proposals 7676-7681

2014-07-14 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 14 July 2014 20:33, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 6:52 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: ID: 7679 Title: Moving Goalposts Author: G. Adoption Index: 2 [..] Create the following Rule, AI=2, Moving Goalposts I am interpreting this rule change as ambiguous

DIS: Re: [Rulekeepor] Re: OFF: Voting Results for Proposals 7676-7681

2014-07-14 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 14 July 2014 21:45, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 July 2014 20:33, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 6:52 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: ID: 7679 Title: Moving Goalposts Author: G. Adoption Index: 2 [..] Create the following Rule

DIS: Re: BUS: Judgment in CFJ 3416

2014-07-04 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 4 July 2014 08:06, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: CFJ 3416 Caller: ais523 Judge: Tiger Accused: omd Text: omd's recent Apology has a signature, and thus did not violate rule 2428. [ ... ] JUDGMENT: I judge CFJ 3416 to be TRUE. - Tiger In closing, I want

DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3418 assigned to Murphy

2014-06-30 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 30 June 2014 19:29, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: GRATUITOUS ARGUMENTS BY Tiger Nobody I know uses it like that. If someone tells me at midnight tomorrow, I understand tonight. If e actually meant tomorrow night at midnight, e should have clarified. Not

DIS: Re: BUS: Judgment

2014-06-19 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 19 June 2014 03:51, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: The crux of the matter in CFJ 3407 is whether or not (the purported) Rule 2426 is a mechanism for judicial determinations, and is hence prevented from being enacted by (2) in the last paragraph of Rule 217. [...]

DIS: Re: BUS: Officering

2014-06-18 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 17 June 2014 22:24, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: [...] A nominee for an Office CAN publish a policy for that office during a nomination period for the office in question. If the player wins the election, the first such policy that e published during

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Corrected Distribution of Proposals 7643-7658

2014-05-13 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 13 May 2014 17:54, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I vote: 7644 Yally1 Make the Birthday Holiday line up with FIR What's this do?

DIS: Re: BUS: Birthday Blitz Nomic

2014-05-05 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 5 May 2014 10:05, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote One of the most fun times I've had playing Agora was the blitz nomic we played during Agora's Vigintennial last year, Agora XX. Most people, I think, seemed to enjoy the game and agreed we should do something similar annually.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Birthday Blitz Nomic

2014-05-05 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 5 May 2014 10:14, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 May 2014 10:05, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote One of the most fun times I've had playing Agora was the blitz nomic we played during Agora's Vigintennial last year, Agora XX. Most people, I think, seemed

DIS: Re: BUS: help wanted

2014-02-14 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 14 February 2014 18:37, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Now that things are really picking up, I'd love it if someone out there would be willing to do Promotor so I can keep the Herald's game and CFJs up to date. I don't mind being assessor but if someone wants that, more than

DIS: Re: BUS: If game ends

2014-02-09 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 8 February 2014 22:45, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Gratuitous argument for the game ending-case: If the Judge finds that the game has ended, I request that the judge further opine on exactly what ending the game means, if only to bring us closure. A (non-exhaustive) list

Re: DIS: All hail Rule 104

2014-02-07 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 7 February 2014 05:43, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: The existence and current interpretation of R104 directly demonstrates, via a current Rule, that a game ended in the past while Agora

DIS: Rulekeepor election

2014-02-03 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
How's the Rulekeepor election coming along? I was hoping to hand over before next deadline, but it's been six days now so I should probably post another ruleset either way I guess.

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7621-7624

2014-02-02 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 1 February 2014 05:11, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran Decision of whether to adopt it. For this decision, the eligible voters are the active players at the time of this distribution, the vote collector is the

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Short Logical Ruleset

2014-01-28 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 25 January 2014 08:01, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 5:03 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: THE SHORT LOGICAL RULESET 20 January 2014 CoE: This ruleset does not reflect the changes of Proposal 7617. Admitted.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting Results for 7615-7617

2014-01-20 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 16 January 2014 04:00, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: *7616 G. 2 O Mostly Simple Judging v2.3 *7617 G. 2 O A Complex Game 2 Wow. Significant rules changes and a quite high voter count.

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7615-7616

2014-01-12 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 9 January 2014 00:43, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran Decision of whether to adopt it. For this decision, the eligible voters are the active first-class players at the time of this distribution, the vote collector

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Short Logical Ruleset

2014-01-11 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 11 January 2014 01:37, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Rule 2389/11 (Power=2) Ordinary Chamber Ordinary is a Voting Chamber. The voting limit of an entity on an Ordinary Decision is two times the number of Voting Tokens in eir possession, plus three if e is

Re: DIS: The Ruleset

2014-01-02 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 2 January 2014 21:02, Henri Bouchard henrib...@gmail.com wrote: Rulekeepor, is it required that you omit the Index of Rules from the Short Logical Ruleset? I think it would help the readability if it was included. I agree; I'll try to remember to include it next time.

Re: DIS: The Ruleset

2014-01-01 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
Is the ruleset on the berkeley website not updated regularly?: https://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/~charles/agora/current_flr.txt -Henri It doesn't cover the most recent proposals. Current ruleset is here:

DIS: Text wrapping tool

2013-12-28 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
I know I used to have a bookmark to an online tool for breaking lines in text to fi the style of the rulesets. However I seem to have lost it in a drive reformatting. Anyone know what I'm talking about? -Tiger

DIS: Rulekeepor's notes for proposal 7610

2013-12-28 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
Rulekeepor's notes for proposal 7610 (Low-hanging Fruit): Repeal the following Rules: Rule 2105 (The Map of Agora) Rule 2357 (Wisdom of the Elders) Rule 2340 (Notability) Rule 2401 (Registration Yaks) Rule 2398 (Yaks) Rule 2399 (Budget Switches) Rule 2400

Re: DIS: subgame proto attempt

2013-12-18 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 18 December 2013 06:36, Ørjan Johansen oer...@nvg.ntnu.no wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: If the Ant Farm Manifesto states that a player's (Agoran) score would change, the Ant Farmer SHALL announce that change as soon as possible, and that announcement, if true

Re: DIS: subgame proto attempt

2013-12-17 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 17 December 2013 17:21, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: Two things: - I'd like it to reset every now and then, so that it's clear that the point is to really go to town. Either a fixed time interval, or when anyone wins, the entire

Re: DIS: interest poll

2013-12-16 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 16 December 2013 00:31, Michael Norrish michael.norr...@nicta.com.auwrote: On 16/12/13 10:28, Tanner Swett wrote: On Dec 15, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: Why? Maybe the fact people have lost interest in Agora is because the core of the game has hardly changed in years. It

DIS: Just how overdue is the ruleset

2013-12-16 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
I went looking for the last ruleset in the archives found at http://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/info.html where the link points to from the Agora homepage. I couldn't find any after sometime in May; those archives are either incomplete or I failed to find things when

Re: DIS: interest poll

2013-12-16 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 16 December 2013 20:08, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Mon, 16 Dec 2013, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: On 16 December 2013 00:31, Michael Norrish michael.norr...@nicta.com.au wrote: On 16/12/13 10:28, Tanner Swett wrote: On Dec 15, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Aaron

Re: DIS: subgame proto attempt

2013-12-16 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 16 December 2013 23:42, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: [Players in recent conversation (and everyone!). Pls comment if this is the sort of thing that you might have in mind]. The ANT FARM MANIFESTO 1. Beans, Grains, and Drops are each currencies (collectively

Re: DIS: interest poll

2013-12-15 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 15 December 2013 23:21, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.eduwrote: But no matter how simple as it gets, we'll still need that list of core officers, Why? Maybe the fact people have lost interest in Agora is

Re: DIS: Agora XX: proposal

2013-06-27 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 26 June 2013 05:33, Malcolm Ryan malco...@cse.unsw.edu.au wrote: Let's make this interesting. I propose that a rule be enacted reading: If a player proposes a rule change which is not adopted at the end of its voting period, that player must immediately forfeit the game. M I register

Re: DIS: Agora XX: proposal

2013-06-27 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 27 June 2013 23:23, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 June 2013 05:33, Malcolm Ryan malco...@cse.unsw.edu.au wrote: Let's make this interesting. I propose that a rule be enacted reading: If a player proposes a rule change which is not adopted at the end of its

DIS: Agora XX: votes

2013-06-27 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
I vote FOR proposal 359. -Tiger

Re: DIS: Count me in

2013-06-18 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
From only having Watched with half an ear, how does Agora XX work and which list would I have to be on to play it? I've gathered it's a speed Agora, right? I'm only on the discussion list currently, so I miss half the conversation of pretty much everything. -Tiger

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: mrr

2013-04-12 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
Disclaimer: I'm not a native speaker so my grammar may be off. I think it's called Spivak pronouns? It's a gender-neutral pronoun, that goes like this: he, she – e him, her – em his, her – eir his, hers – eirs It's one of many inventions to replace 'he' and 'she' in a gender-neutral way. I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2012-09-01 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 1 September 2012 11:11, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 Aug 2012, at 13:15, Geoffrey Spear woo...@nomictools.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 6:13 PM, FKA441344 441...@gmail.com wrote: Walker 30 Jan 12 * Also, for each of players named above, I intend,

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2012-01-26 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 26 January 2012 19:59, Geoffrey Spear woo...@nomictools.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:02 AM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Arkady          arkadyenglish+ag...@gmail.com  18 Jul 11 ais523          callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk   20 Mar 11 Benu            

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2012-01-26 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 26 January 2012 21:02, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: ais523 wrote: On Thu, 2012-01-26 at 11:40 -0800, Ed Murphy wrote: Gratuitous: There are two ways for a player not subscribed to a public forum to deregister according to the normal R478 definition of by announcement:    1)

Re: DIS: Re: [Herald] The Scroll of Agora

2012-01-25 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 25 January 2012 18:57, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:           Proposal  Human Point Two, Morendil, Steve (x3), Andre (x3),                     ais523 (x2), Canada, Bucky, G., omd, woggle,                     Spitemaster, allispaul, Yally, BobTHJ, Murphy, Tiger,                

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Win-limiting proposals

2011-12-13 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 13 December 2011 14:51, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:47 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 December 2011 22:42, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: (…) —Tavros *cough* Nitram Are you... trolling? Well, are you

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Win-limiting proposals

2011-12-13 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 13 December 2011 16:38, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 December 2011 14:51, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:47 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Second try on the long-term ambassador proposal

2011-08-18 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 18 August 2011 08:16, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Honestly a lot of this/almost all of this is up to the other Nomic. Not necessarily.  In Tiger's BlogNomic post: I now wish to leave the game, but use this

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Ambassadoring proposals

2011-08-15 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 15 August 2011 11:13, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 02:02, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote:     b) The goals the Ambassador SHOULD strive to fulfill when acting     on Agora's behalf in that nomic     c)The limits on what actions

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Ambassadoring proposals

2011-08-15 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 15 August 2011 12:25, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 03:22, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: Right, maybe the SHOULD quoted ought to be a SHALL? - Tiger Yeah, that makes sense. Originally I thought it didn't for some reason

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Impossible job is impossible

2011-08-12 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 12 August 2011 12:38, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 2011-08-11 at 19:48 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: On 11 August 2011 19:06, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I initiate a criminal CFJ alleging that Tiger violated the power-1 Rule 2352 by failing to attempt

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Impossible job is impossible

2011-08-12 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 12 August 2011 12:48, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 August 2011 12:38, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 2011-08-11 at 19:48 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: On 11 August 2011 19:06, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I initiate a criminal CFJ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Impossible job is impossible

2011-08-12 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 12 August 2011 16:08, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't the ordinary-language definitions of affairs of state (of Agora) and ambassador mean anything? When a rule says that something

Re: DIS: Failed entry into BlogNomic

2011-08-11 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 11 August 2011 00:09, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: Agora cannot play BlogNomic without some construct in the rules allowing it to; the only affect this will have is to spam the lists. Well, obviously the game of agora, now an entity capable of taking action within

Re: DIS: Failed entry into BlogNomic

2011-08-11 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 11 August 2011 16:26, Arkady English arkadyenglish+ag...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 August 2011 15:20, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 August 2011 14:57, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 August 2011 00:09, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com

Re: DIS: Failed entry into BlogNomic

2011-08-11 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 11 August 2011 17:03, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 August 2011 15:42, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: I don't see why it can't be the mission of the Ambassador to act in Agora's best interest. That's pretty much what an ambassador used to be about

Re: DIS: Failed entry into BlogNomic

2011-08-11 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
Jonatan Kilhamn) wanted to join with the screen name Agora Nomic, playing on Agora's behalf. /Tiger

DIS: Re: BUS: Impossible job is impossible

2011-08-11 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 11 August 2011 19:25, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I initiate a criminal CFJ alleging that Tiger violated the power-1 Rule 2352 by failing to attempt to cause Agora to become a player of BlogNomic as soon as

DIS: Re: BUS: Impossible job is impossible

2011-08-11 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 11 August 2011 19:41, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 August 2011 19:25, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I initiate a criminal CFJ alleging that Tiger violated the power-1 Rule 2352 by failing

DIS: Re: BUS: Impossible job is impossible

2011-08-11 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 11 August 2011 19:06, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I initiate a criminal CFJ alleging that Tiger violated the power-1 Rule 2352 by failing to attempt to cause Agora to become a player of BlogNomic as soon as possible after e became Ambassador. Unfortunately, it's beyond the

DIS: Failed entry into BlogNomic

2011-08-10 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
I tried to register Agora as a player of BlogNomic a few minutes ago, but didn't think the e-mail adress through very well. First I tried my own address, since I will be playing on Agora's behalf anyway, but it was taken since I registered myself a long time ago. I then entered agora-discussion

DIS: Re: BUS: Intent

2011-07-31 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 31 July 2011 02:18, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: On 30 July 2011 23:21, woggle woggl...@gmail.com wrote: I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause the President to deregister. I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause the President to withdraw all previous support or

DIS: Re: BUS: Rebellion die roll

2010-10-12 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 12 October 2010 14:47, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: I spend a fee to move myself a position up the list, as many times as I can. I CFJ on: {{Tiger moved at least one position on the List

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Hmm...

2010-10-11 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 11 October 2010 23:12, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 2010-10-11 at 14:04 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Mon, 11 Oct 2010, ais523 wrote: Arguments: By virtue of having the office of Pariah, a player who has had no Rests for a week, and did not become Pariah in that

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Ship Computor] Ship rundown

2010-10-08 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 8 October 2010 00:29, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On 10/07/2010 06:28 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: Okay, sorry. The Shuttle's Position is 6, as it has moved 6 times since last report (when it was 0). Isn't the Shuttle destroyed? -coppro Right, yes. I forgot we fixed

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I can't vote, but...

2010-10-07 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 7 October 2010 23:05, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 23:00 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: Only up to a certain point, right? If enough people do not rebel, the small chance of being put really high (as one of few non-rebels) outweighs the great probability

DIS: Re: BUS: Favors

2010-10-07 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 7 October 2010 23:13, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: I intend, with notice, to Bestow Favors. -coppro Can you do that? -- -Tiger

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Space alert, yet again

2010-10-07 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 7 October 2010 23:23, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: I intend, with 3 support, to cause Space Alert to cease to be a contest. Or has someone succeeded with this yet? Because last time I didn't even get

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Favors

2010-10-07 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 8 October 2010 00:19, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On 10/07/2010 06:13 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: On 7 October 2010 23:57, Kerim Aydinke...@u.washington.edu  wrote: On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Sean Hunt wrote: On 10/07/2010 05:23 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: On 7 October 2010 23

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: No Voting Limit Timing Scams

2010-09-22 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 22 September 2010 21:11, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On 09/22/2010 12:19 PM, Keba wrote: Proposal No Voting Limit Timing Scams (AI=2, II=1, distributable via fee) {{{ Amend Rule 2279 Voting Limits on Ordinary Decisions by replacing         Take the Influence Level

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ: popes

2010-09-09 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 9 September 2010 15:31, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I CFJ on {{Tiger is a pope.}} Arguments: pope is not defined by the rules, and is not primarily used in a mathematical or legal context, so we need to determine the ordinary language definition in use in the rule created by

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ: popes

2010-09-09 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 9 September 2010 16:20, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: Gratuitous arguments (even though I would very much like to be a pope): The fact that the 5th position in our major arcana is called the Crown

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2830 assigned to Tanner L. Swett

2010-09-09 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 9 September 2010 20:59, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 2010-09-08 at 20:24 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: Warrigal wrote: (CotC Murphy, I'm curious what your reasoning is for assigning H. ais523 to all of these cases.) Aglets. I'm just happy someone used my actual

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6830 - 6833

2010-09-09 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 9 September 2010 23:50, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Tiger wrote: On 9 September 2010 09:01, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Voting results for Proposals 6830 - 6833: [This notice resolves the Agoran decisions of whether to adopt the  following proposals.  For each

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