DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread comex
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I support. With two support, I call an Emergency Session. I intend to filibuster proposals 5842-5941 with two support. I object. The Emergency Rule exists to prevent Invasion; but we are not being invaded. Merely minorly

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:28 AM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I support. With two support, I call an Emergency Session. I intend to filibuster proposals 5842-5941 with two support. I object. The Emergency Rule exists to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, comex wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I support. With two support, I call an Emergency Session. I intend to filibuster proposals 5842-5941 with two support. I object. The Emergency Rule exists to prevent Invasion; but we are

DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 12:31 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And with necessary support, I filibuster 5842-5941. I intend, with 4 supporting senators, to end these filibusters. I post the following Sell Ticket: * Cost: 15 VP

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 12:40 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 12:31 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And with necessary support, I filibuster

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 19:44 +, Alex Smith wrote: On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 12:40 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 12:31 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 12:31 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And with necessary support, I filibuster 5842-5941. I intend, with 4 supporting senators, to end

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Alex Smith wrote: My point is: the filibuster rule is not a dependent action, according to rule 1728. Therefore, if it works at all, it works due to the ordinary English meaning of what it says. with 2 supporting Senators is with 2 supporting Senators, no firstclassness

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point is: the filibuster rule is not a dependent action, according to rule 1728. Therefore, if it works at all, it works due to the ordinary English meaning of what it says. with 2 supporting Senators is with 2 supporting

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 12:11 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Alex Smith wrote: My point is: the filibuster rule is not a dependent action, according to rule 1728. Therefore, if it works at all, it works due to the ordinary English meaning of what it says. with 2 supporting

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, the fact it says with 2 supporting Senators not with 2 Senate Support is further evidence that it works that way; senate Support would have been a much more sensible wording. A difference in ... grammar ... is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Taral
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no more an ambiguity in meaning here than there is when somebody announces I go on hold as opposed to I perform the action 'to go on old'. Upon further reflection, I don't think any of these interpretations fixes

DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I intend, with 4 supporting senators, to end these filibusters. Eh, why not? It's just points. I support all of these intents. It's 1000 points per week...

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Alex Smith wrote: As for the rules, the rules are the rules, and less flexible than contracts. And this is in those Rules: (1) A difference in spelling, grammar, or dialect, or the use of a synonym or abbreviation in place of a word or phrase, is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Taral
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's 1000 points per week... So points reset every week until it's fixed by a proposal. Problem? -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Taral wrote: Upon further reflection, I don't think any of these interpretations fixes anything. The default is with N first-class player supports. This is with N Senator supports. Still allows second-class support. R2124 makes non-first-class players incapable of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no more an ambiguity in meaning here than there is when somebody announces I go on hold as opposed to I perform the action 'to go on old'. Upon further

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Taral wrote: Upon further reflection, I don't think any of these interpretations fixes anything. The default is with N first-class player supports. This is with N Senator supports. Still allows

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Taral wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's 1000 points per week... So points reset every week until it's fixed by a proposal. Problem? Not really. (unless you're doing all that trading, massive devaluation?) but we might as well

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: R2124 makes non-first-class players incapable of giving/expressing support. Strangely enough, they can still perform the action, they just can't be supporters of it. -Goethe There may be cases when non-first-class players need to be able to perform

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 12:45 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Taral wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's 1000 points per week... So points reset every week until it's fixed by a proposal. Problem? Not really. (unless you're doing

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Taral wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Winning is too easy right now. It's boring (again IMO). Temporary setback. Patience is advised. This game has been running for a lng time. Oh I know, but it's run a long time due to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 13:09 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Taral wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Winning is too easy right now. It's boring (again IMO). Temporary setback. Patience is advised. This game has been running for a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Taral
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Winning is too easy right now. It's boring (again IMO). Temporary setback. Patience is advised. This game has been running for a lng time. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Alex Smith wrote: I think what actually happened is that wins by points became a lot more common when I started trying for them; presumably, they would have become a lot more common if someone else had started trying for them, too. I think after all this time it's not the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Alex Smith wrote: I suggest you cut down the max point limits on contests, probably the easiest way. The problem is that until a while back, nobody had won by points for ages, and all the contests doubled or quadrupled their scoring, so points are plentiful nowadays.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread comex
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That doesn't fix the fact that the scams I'm talking about are from manipulating the contracts themselves, not from within-legitimate contest points awards. For the latter, I don't begrudge any wins certainly. Oh don't I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 13:22 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Alex Smith wrote: I suggest you cut down the max point limits on contests, probably the easiest way. The problem is that until a while back, nobody had won by points for ages, and all the contests doubled or

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Taral
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest you cut down the max point limits on contests Wasn't part of it that we were in Overtime? -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Alex Smith wrote: There's a scam win by points which is still subject to CFJ (CFJ 2213, you're assigned to it btw) too. Oh, you lose. ;P.