Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Alex Smith wrote: > There's > a scam win by points which is still subject to CFJ (CFJ 2213, you're > assigned to it btw) too. Oh, you lose. ;P.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Taral
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I suggest you cut down the max point limits on contests Wasn't part of it that we were in Overtime? -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 13:22 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Alex Smith wrote: > > I suggest you cut down the max point limits on contests, probably the > > easiest way. The problem is that until a while back, nobody had won by > > points for ages, and all the contests doubled or qua

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread comex
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That doesn't fix the fact that the "scams" I'm talking about are from > manipulating the contracts themselves, not from "within-legitimate > contest" points awards. For the latter, I don't begrudge any wins > certainly. Oh d

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Alex Smith wrote: > I suggest you cut down the max point limits on contests, probably the > easiest way. The problem is that until a while back, nobody had won by > points for ages, and all the contests doubled or quadrupled their > scoring, so points are plentiful nowadays. Fo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Alex Smith wrote: > I think what actually happened is that wins by points became a lot more > common when I started trying for them; presumably, they would have > become a lot more common if someone else had started trying for them, > too. I think after all this time it's not

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Taral
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Winning is too easy right now. It's boring (again IMO). Temporary setback. Patience is advised. This game has been running for a lng time. -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let me know if there's any further troubl

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 13:09 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Taral wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Winning is too easy right now. It's boring (again IMO). > > > > Temporary setback. Patience is advised. This game has been runni

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Taral wrote: > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Winning is too easy right now. It's boring (again IMO). > > Temporary setback. Patience is advised. This game has been running for > a lng time. Oh I know, but it's run a long time d

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 12:45 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Taral wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> It's 1000 points per week... > > > > So points reset every week until it's fixed by a proposal. Problem? > > Not really. (unless

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: >> R2124 makes non-first-class players incapable of giving/expressing >> support. Strangely enough, they can still perform the action, they >> just can't be supporters of it. -Goethe > > There may be cases when non-first-class players need to be able to > per

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Taral wrote: > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It's 1000 points per week... > > So points reset every week until it's fixed by a proposal. Problem? Not really. (unless you're doing all that trading, massive devaluation?) but we might a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Taral wrote: >> Upon further reflection, I don't think any of these interpretations >> fixes anything. The default is "with N first-class player supports". >> This is "with N Senator supports". Still allo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> There is no more an ambiguity in meaning here than there is when >> somebody announces "I go on hold" as opposed to "I perform the action >> 'to go on old'". >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Taral wrote: > Upon further reflection, I don't think any of these interpretations > fixes anything. The default is "with N first-class player supports". > This is "with N Senator supports". Still allows second-class support. R2124 makes non-first-class players incapable of gi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Taral
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's 1000 points per week... So points reset every week until it's fixed by a proposal. Problem? -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Alex Smith wrote: > As for the rules, the rules are the rules, and less flexible than > contracts. And this is in those Rules: (1) A difference in spelling, grammar, or dialect, or the use of a synonym or abbreviation in place of a word or phrase, is

DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I intend, with 4 supporting senators, to end these filibusters. > > Eh, why not? It's just points. I support all of these intents. It's 1000 points per week.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Taral
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is no more an ambiguity in meaning here than there is when > somebody announces "I go on hold" as opposed to "I perform the action > 'to go on old'". Upon further reflection, I don't think any of these interpretations fi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also, the fact it says "with 2 supporting Senators" not "with > 2 Senate Support" is further evidence that it works that way; "senate > Support" would have been a much more sensible wording. "A difference in ... grammar ... is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 12:11 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Alex Smith wrote: > > My point is: the filibuster rule is not a dependent action, according to > > rule 1728. Therefore, if it works at all, it works due to the ordinary > > English meaning of what it says. "with 2 supporti

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My point is: the filibuster rule is not a dependent action, according to > rule 1728. Therefore, if it works at all, it works due to the ordinary > English meaning of what it says. "with 2 supporting Senators" is with 2 > supp

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Alex Smith wrote: > My point is: the filibuster rule is not a dependent action, according to > rule 1728. Therefore, if it works at all, it works due to the ordinary > English meaning of what it says. "with 2 supporting Senators" is with 2 > supporting Senators, no firstclassne

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 12:31 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> And with necessary support, I filibuster 5842-5941. >> >> >> > I intend, with 4 supporting sen

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 19:44 +, Alex Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 12:40 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 12:31 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: > > >> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Alex Smith <[EMAIL

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 12:40 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 12:31 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: > >> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> And with necessary support, I fili

DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 12:31 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> And with necessary support, I filibuster 5842-5941. > >> > > I intend, with 4 supporting senators, to end these filibusters. > > I post the following Sell Ticket: > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, comex wrote: > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I support. With two support, I call an Emergency Session. >> >> I intend to filibuster proposals 5842-5941 with two support. > > I object. > The Emergency Rule exists to prevent Invasion; >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:28 AM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I support. With two support, I call an Emergency Session. >> >> I intend to filibuster proposals 5842-5941 with two support. > > I object. > The Emergency Rul

DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread comex
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I support. With two support, I call an Emergency Session. > > I intend to filibuster proposals 5842-5941 with two support. I object. The Emergency Rule exists to prevent Invasion; but we are not being invaded. Merely minorly