[AsburyPark] Re: Library Flag Pole

2006-10-16 Thread apoojo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should the present City Council let a tree stayed growed around a Flag Pole at our Library in town??It was Donated in 1962 by the Harold Daley VFW Post.Who is in charge of cutting the grass,bushes trees in that area?? James

[AsburyPark] Re: ocean ave

2006-10-16 Thread theshortsalepro
To borrow a line, No Brag, Just Fact (A drink to the first person to identify the source of that) Werner Walter Brennan. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email |

[AsburyPark] Another shooting in Asbury.

2006-10-16 Thread Hinge
I heard this happen with my own ears yesterday. ASBURY PARK — A city resident was shot in the shoulder Sunday afternoon while he was standing outside a home in a residential neighborhood, police said. Jahmere Crooms, 18, was shot outside of 408 Comstock St., Sgt. Todd Wilson said. Crooms was

[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy v Werner

2006-10-16 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope that you and everyone here will note that Werner attacked me first on this. I am not concerned about the attacks, and I am not attacking you. But I am serious, you know the history of AP but you are no

[AsburyPark] Fred

2006-10-16 Thread dfsavgny
How about those Mets! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Tommy v Werner

2006-10-16 Thread samlorac
I, too, love the poor Casino, and agree with you. This man has the heart of a developer, not the love of an historian. __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park nj real estate

[AsburyPark] Re: Fred

2006-10-16 Thread Hinge
Yeah, How about those Mets! They kicked some serious ass last night. And I don't even like watching baseball! Jack --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about those Mets! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[AsburyPark] Re: Fred

2006-10-16 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about those Mets! Yeah yeah yeah I guess you're praying for a rainout Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings:

[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy v Werner

2006-10-16 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The eastern side is beyond repair that's being replaced. The western side is going nowhere. Did you see the concept drawing for the Casio at the last council meeting? It looks good. I think Werner would like iy. I, too, love the

[AsburyPark] Re: Fred

2006-10-16 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: How about those Mets! Yeah yeah yeah I guess you're praying for a rainout Didn't you hear WIlly when they asked him last night about that? He said Glavine is

[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy v Werner

2006-10-16 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, samlorac@ wrote: The eastern side is beyond repair that's being replaced. The western side is going nowhere. Did you see the concept drawing for the Casio at the last council meeting? It

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Tommy v Werner

2006-10-16 Thread samlorac
No, I haven't seen it. Is it anywhere online? __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park nj real estate United state flag Asbury park nj

[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy v Werner

2006-10-16 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would you save I ask? I would apply the facts to the Presevation Standard, and if the building met the standard it would be saved. If it didn't it wouldn't. I would not, under any circumstances as a historian, use my

[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy v Werner

2006-10-16 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I, too, love the poor Casino, and agree with you. This man has the heart of a developer, not the love of an historian. This may surprise you, but I'm inclined to agree with you. Historic Preservation takes place in the

[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy v Werner

2006-10-16 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, samlorac@ wrote: a 40 year old pitcher on 3 days rest is a no no. He won't last 5 innings. Plus the 2nd time around

[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy v Werner

2006-10-16 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would not, under any circumstances as a historian, use my own preferences. That would make me an activist and not a Historian. Anyone not using objective standards is doing it wrong. All standards are objective.

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Tommy v Werner

2006-10-16 Thread Allan Peterson
Tom, I agree with what you say. Hostorian is self proclaimed and I understand your point for historian and activist. While I am not a big fan of writing style of theTri City(tries too hard to be edgy) I do enjoy your writings. Good to see you back on this board - Original Message From:

[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy v Werner

2006-10-16 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a 40 year old pitcher on 3 days rest is a no no. Not the best of circumstances, but what a bunches of prima donnas these days. He won't last 5 innings. That's all that should be expected of him. If Met bats are alive that's

[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy v Werner

2006-10-16 Thread Hinge
You know what Tommy, it's people like you that are transforming America in to one safe homogeneous place to live. Just like the background of a Flintstones cartoon, where you see the same house, tree, rock and cloud go by over and over. Asbury had a unique character. So much so that I brought

[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy v Werner

2006-10-16 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dead hand control. I'd rather make my own way in the world. What space particularly are you referring to here? Green acres, public rows, streets, parks. The Standards I wrote for the Historical Society are better

[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy v Werner

2006-10-16 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a 40 year old pitcher on 3 days rest is a no no. He won't last 5 innings. On second thought Fred, why should this be a stretch for you? You think one man (Duany) can successfully redesign an entire city in only 8 days. I think

[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy v Werner

2006-10-16 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know what Tommy, it's people like you that are transforming America in to one safe homogeneous place to live. Safe I'm ok with. Homogeneous? I described how we will add our archetectural stamp to 3 prior ones. Isn't

[AsburyPark] The kind of people the Fishmans are

2006-10-16 Thread dfsavgny
A little long but a good read. Thanks to Maureen's saie for pointing me to it. These are the bums we are held hostage by. Torres' lien deals leave Paterson in dire straits Sunday, October 15, 2006 By TOM MEAGHER HERALD NEWS Interactive map: Languishing land in Paterson PATERSON -- Two

[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy v Werner

2006-10-16 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, the NYCLPC was the first landmark's commission in the US, and the Brooklyn Heights district was the first designated and protected landmark in the country. I am sorry, but although I disgree with them often, I will

[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy v Werner

2006-10-16 Thread Hinge
You're right. It's been redesigned for residential growth. But does that mean the erasure of the history that put Asbury on the map is right? If it wasn't for the history that put Asbury on the map on the first place, nobody outside of Monmouth County would've ever heard of it. And that's going

[AsburyPark] and some think Canada Geeses are a problem

2006-10-16 Thread Skip Bernstein
This is an actual letter sent to a man named Ryan DeVries by the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Quality, State of Pennsylvania. This guy's response is hilarious, but read the State's letter before you get to the response letter. SUBJECT: DEQ File No.97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20;

[AsburyPark] Re: and some think Canada Geeses are a problem

2006-10-16 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Skip Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an actual letter sent to a man named Ryan DeVries by the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Quality, State of Pennsylvania. This guy's response is hilarious, but read the State's letter before you get to

[AsburyPark] Operators of Berkeley Carteret

2006-10-16 Thread radio881gal
I got a lead on the Berkeley - at least who is going to be operating it, which is sometimes can be more important than who owns it. Please check the home page www.asburyradio.com Running out to teach my class on how to do your own radio show - come on down and sign up at Red Bank Regional H.S.

[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy v Werner

2006-10-16 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: a 40 year old pitcher on 3 days rest is a no no. He won't last 5 innings. I believe he brought 12 people with him and he was in town several times that

[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy v Werner

2006-10-16 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe he brought 12 people with him and he was in town several times that lasted more than 2 weeks. There are only two published reports. One states 7 days and the other 8 days (actually 8 meetings). I know that others

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Tommy v Werner

2006-10-16 Thread Lightgrw
On Oct 16, 2006, at 5:14 PM, Hinge wrote: x-tad-bigger I guess if we want The Jewel of the Jersey Shore to be only a/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger destination to live in, great. /x-tad-bigger See Hinge touches upon the hypocrisy of Asbury Park. The town desperately wants to hold on to its tourist

Re: [AsburyPark] Sheehan Embarassment

2006-10-16 Thread MarioAPNJ
In reference to jerseykev'scomment: Cindy Sheehan had a boyfriend who is a major anti-war activist, Lew Rockwell. Cindy Sheehan took refuge with a computer that became her companion day and night. Cindy Sheehan’s former sister-in-law says “Cindy had become addicted to online chat

[AsburyPark] Re: Library Flag Pole

2006-10-16 Thread Jim
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jim asburyjim@ wrote: Should the present City Council let a tree stayed growed around a Flag Pole at our Library in town??It was Donated in 1962 by the Harold Daley VFW Post.Who is in

[AsburyPark] Re: Library Flag Pole

2006-10-16 Thread Jim
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jim asburyjim@ wrote: Should the present City Council let a tree stayed growed around a Flag Pole at our Library in town??It was Donated in 1962 by the Harold Daley VFW Post.Who is in

[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy v Werner

2006-10-16 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, there you have it. The very places that kept the town alive for a few decades when nothing else (but drugs) brought people to town will be removed so Asbury can morph into a nice, safe place to raise a family

[AsburyPark] Beating the Dead (Duany) Horse

2006-10-16 Thread dfsavgny
Fred It was announced on 1/3/2002 that Duany was hired (and he hadn't started work yet). He made his proposal public on 1/23/2002. That's a 20-day period and I assume he didn;t devote the whole 20 days because again, 7 and 8 days are specified as the time he put. That is not counting of

[AsburyPark] Re: Blaming Bush For The War...

2006-10-16 Thread 2fine4u
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reference to jerseykev's comments: I am getting tired of the democrats blaming President Bush for the war on terror. What about the fringe repubs still blaming Clinton, after six years, for everything that goes wrong?

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Blaming Bush For The War...

2006-10-16 Thread samlorac
Thank you all for hanging this nut out to dry. __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park nj real estate United state flag Asbury park nj

[AsburyPark] Re: Beating the Dead (Duany) Horse

2006-10-16 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not in the planning business so I don't know if a firm can evaluate and design a project in 20 plus days. I'll leave that up to the experts Tommy and Werner. As for Wesley Lake maybe the planning board allowed them

[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy v Werner

2006-10-16 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The town desperately wants to hold on to its tourist past. No Gary, it doesn't. It desperately wants to be a great residential community. Meanwhile, the beautiful images shown behind the Council each week are of

[AsburyPark] Re: Blaming Bush For The War...

2006-10-16 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just love, when you DESK WARRIORS, walk in LOCK-STEP, like the Nazis did... Stop the argument! I'm invoking Godwin's Law! Sharon loses and RevKev is declared the winner to the debate! See Godwin's Law definition

[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy v Werner

2006-10-16 Thread 2fine4u
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: Tommy: Da Vinci only sold ONE painting, when he was alive and the POPE, worked Michealangelo, almost to DEATH, paying him, very little and was

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Tommy v Werner

2006-10-16 Thread MarioAPNJ
In reference to Dan's insights: Carmel is one of the most beautiful towns in the US. They try to make it look like Tuscany, but it ain't. Any place where I am one of the youngest guys around is in trouble. The last time that happened was when I visited an uncle in the geriatric

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Blaming Bush For The War...

2006-10-16 Thread samlorac
Listen RevKev JustifyRight, Invoking this ridiculous law is like a child humming and sticking his fingers in his ears. People have the right to say what they want, and it is not a contest, as you always seem to make it into. Sharon was just trying to make a point, much as you were by

[AsburyPark] bang bang bang and bang bang bang

2006-10-16 Thread oakdorf
Sunday in AP and 2 shoootings? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Blaming Bush For The War...

2006-10-16 Thread MarioAPNJ
In reference to Tommy misuse of Godwin: Stop the argument! I'm invoking Godwin's Law! Sharon loses and RevKev is declared the winner to the debate! Any member of this group can access last year's discussion about this when Tommy tried to use it then. He was wrong then and is

[AsburyPark] (no subject)

2006-10-16 Thread GG518
Man hurt in Asbury Park's second Sunday shooting Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 10/16/06 BY MICHELLE SAHNSTAFF WRITER ASBURY PARK -- Someone fired multiple shots at a Pine Street home Sunday and one resident suffered an injury in the shooting, the city's second in less than seven

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Tommy v Werner

2006-10-16 Thread MarioAPNJ
In reference to Sharon's apt comment to Tommy: Hopefully, you won't fall into the "Remember When" group, that longs for the things they knew of the past, AFTER they're long gone! "Nostalgia carried beyond a certain point becomes a form of stupidity. And, as a poet once said,

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Tommy v Werner

2006-10-16 Thread Lightgrw
On Oct 16, 2006, at 8:53 PM, justifiedright wrote: x-tad-bigger--- In /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger, Lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger > The town desperately wants to hold on to its tourist past. /x-tad-bigger

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Tommy v Werner

2006-10-16 Thread Lightgrw
x-tad-bigger When Asbury is a nice safe place to raise a family is when I'll be /x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger back. I live in a town where, for adults, there is nothing to do /x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger and I'm not moving. I'm here because there is a TON of stuff to do /x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger for

[AsburyPark] Re: Blaming Bush For The War...

2006-10-16 Thread justifiedright
The use of Godwin is supposed to lighten things up. It's a funny. I didn't realize we were required to kick eachothers rear-ends in here without taking a break from that. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Listen RevKev JustifyRight, Invoking this ridiculous

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Blaming Bush For The War...

2006-10-16 Thread samlorac
When someone says this person wins and this person loses, it's not a light statement to make. Also, Sharon was pretty serious about what she was saying, and to make light of it seems totally inappropriate. __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS