Asbury is a ghost town, I spoke to a number of Cookman retailers, business is
down since the meters went into effect. It reminds me of 8 years ago when we
bulls some stores and rented them, then America's cup opened and we sat there
waiting for a customer to come in...and waited and waited and
Where were these patrons (that are suddenly gone from the downtown) parking
before the meters went into effect?
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From: Dennis Dubrow traderd...@comcast.net
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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:42:37
I came in 2004, America's Cup was not here until much later. In 2004, there was
Harry's Roadhouse, Rock Paper Scissors, Be Green and Janet's boutique on
Cookman, with a few other things. When did America's Cup open? 2008? When I
first moved here, I just parked on Lake bc there was always
I'm with you, I avoided too - now i don't avoid, i think it's great that i
can find parking. If you talk to some of the retailers they're happy about
the parking situation and it has increased business for them. There are
always going to be complainers, it's human nature, if it wasn't parking
I agree 110%
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From: Claire Davids claire.dav...@its-ship.com
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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:35:51
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Meanwhile, several of the business's that lobbied for paid parking are stating
that business has gone downhill since it went into effect.
There's also unhappy people north of the parking zone in the residential
neighborhoods. Scores of employee's who are not willing to pay to park are now
Yesterday morning, I stopped at America's Cup for a bagel. Totally dead
compared to before parking went into effect. I overheard a conversation with
the owner saying that business is down big time. Same thing with Russo Music.
They are saying that they had the worst week of business since they
Take the conversation further with the Americas Cup owner though, my husband
and i spoke to him last saturday for a while about parking and at that
point he was very happy with the paid parking, even if business is down he
sees it as a huge benefit in the long term, plus you can't gauge business
The bottom line in my opinion is people coming to the downtown area to eat are
happy to find open parking spaces, but the reality is that during working
hours, downtown has become a ghosttown, and tons of people aren't happy about
it. The city has basically said screw you to employees and
I don't know of many places located in a downtown city area where parking is
free for employees, my company offers discounted parking for $380 a month now,
and that's discounted
Let's take away the meters.. if every parking spot is filled by employees
and residents on Cookman, do you think
We have to compare it to other towns though, if you lived and worked in
Hoboken, Jersey City, Manhattan in the downtown areas you would have to pay
for parking (when we lived in NY we paid nearly $000s/month for parking for
a car and motorbike), it's a lifestyle choice we had to accept. Living in
Doesn't it really depend on the income level of the business's in a city with a
parking issue? Downtown AP isn't exactly a high income earning area, so it's
not easy to compare it to places like NYC, Jersey City or others. Those are
full on cities. AP is only a city by name and it's primarily
How can you economically compare Hoboken, JC and Manhattan to downtown AP
realistically? The income levels are totally different.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids claire.davids@... wrote:
We have to compare it to other towns though, if you lived and worked in
Hoboken, Jersey
My reality is my income was nearly cut in half, by no fault of my own. I'm now
struggling to keep up with expenses that I never had to worry about before.
Don't get me wrong, I love living and working in the same town, and i
absolutely love riding my bike to work.
It's funny to read the echo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@... wrote:
The bottom line in my opinion is people coming to the downtown area to eat
are happy to find open parking spaces, but the reality is that during working
hours, downtown has become a ghosttown,
It has been so for many years. There
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@... wrote:
Doesn't it really depend on the income level of the business's in a city with
a parking issue? Downtown AP isn't exactly a high income earning area, so
it's not easy to compare it to places like NYC, Jersey City or others. Those
Duh, I know that. I live here year round. I love how the guy who's economically
doing well by his own admission looks down and tells me to Get used to it
I'm a struggling 50 yr old and you want me to suck it up. Do you want me to
move out of my beloved home, get a roommate and watch everything
Do you ever stop to think that maybe the ghost town we are now seeing points to
the fact that the Cookman area is full of low traffic specialty retailers and
the residents and employees made it look like more was going on then it seemed?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@...
That's hitting the nail on the head! I've posted about this previously - for
all the debate about parking and what's happening in AP, the real problem
downtown has to do with specialty retailers that do not draw mainstream
consumers. Asbury has a wealth of restaurants, coffee shops, and bars
Its sounds like a good plan of attack, but I can tell you firsthand that this
type of guerilla marketing does not work
We tried this at a business I managed and it ended up hurting us in the long
run, I lost a lunch crowd and never gained them back, biggest complaint.. NO
PARKING
I lost every
They are building condos! YAY
Until there is a good numbered residential foothold downtown, those business'
will stay flat
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From: Michael Downing mkdow...@yahoo.com
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How do you solve residents hogging parking on Cookman without requiring
payment? Enforce 2 hour parking rules. Why is that not an option? Who loses in
that scenario?
Sometimes, the bullshit of this city amazes me. Approx. 6 weeks ago, I went to
a council meeting, and a rep from iStar left a
At the moment, the fact is for the past 2 weeks, reality is showing that the
demand for those parking spaces during 9 to 5 if virtually non existent.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote:
Its sounds like a good plan of attack, but I can tell you firsthand that this
How would 2hr parking solve it though? To me, that's just inviting more problems
What happens to the people who live/park their cars on Cookman and walk to the
train station?
What happens to the employees who work and park on Cookman? If I was their boss
I would not be happy that they are
Then I would suggest those business' get going with some
Advertising/Marketing/Promotion
I have friends who live in Tinton Falls (for 5yrs now) and just recently found
our shops on Cookman, that stay at home mom was there shopping on Monday, she
spent money, paid to park, but I had to tell her
Currently, residents and employees with passes are supposed to park along Lake
Ave. You keep it that way, and instead of a high priced permit, you make it a
$5 to $10 a year resident parking sticker (That's what I paid when I lived in
Edgewater) and a comparable employee parking permit. Keep it
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@... wrote:
I'm a struggling 50 yr old and you want me to suck it up. Do you want me to
move out of my beloved home, get a roommate and watch everything I worked so
far for continue to go to shit?
I'd love to put you in front of a group of
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Michael Downing mkdown13@... wrote:
That's hitting the nail on the head! I've posted about this previously - for
all the debate about parking and what's happening in AP, the real problem
downtown has to do with specialty retailers that do not draw
Some commuters park on Cookman because the Transportation Centers lot (which is
feet from the police station) often has break-ins. I park there, and I park on
the Memorial Side.
Ironically my car has been broken into on Cookman (2009) and Bond (2011) but
not once at the Train Station
Sent
Yes, but this isn't Hoboken or Jersey City or Manhattan (unless the Met has
moved in recently without my knowledge). It's the freakin' Jersey Shore,
people, not the New York City metro area. I am from Washington DC where we paid
$89 annually for residential parking. It was worth it a) because
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@... wrote:
At the moment, the fact is for the past 2 weeks, reality is showing that the
demand for those parking spaces during 9 to 5 if virtually non existent.
You are proving the exact point. So you want paid parking only on weekends?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote:
How would 2hr parking solve it though? To me, that's just inviting more
problems
You're not kidding. You pay someone to chalk the tires? The only way to enforce
that is to make them pay for the 2 hours and have the same system.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lisa liannucc@... wrote:
Come on, even Manhattan has free on-street parking at certain hours...
In the central business district? nope. Parking in Manhattan is as rare as hens
teeth.
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You didn't tell me to move. Sorry if I'm carrying on. I'm simply providing
counter point as a person who spends 40 hours a week on Bond Street and telling
you what people are saying on a daily basis.
As for carrying on, imagine just for a second being in my shoes. I lost a 70k a
year job. I
It's not just about what I want. I'm just the messenger. I ride my bike to work
99% of the time.
If I were to speak for residents and employees, I'd say that the city didn't
take their concerns into very much consideration. That's what I hear on a daily
basis.
--- In
Many of you are personalizing the situation. The fact is that if you talk to
the business owners who rely on their business to live, they are down. Some of
them are holding out hope that in the long run the parking will pay off.
Before the parking went into effect I know a couple of downtown
Best comment so far. Right on the money.
One of my co-workers wife's expressed concern about using the parking meters
late in the evening. She's feels like a sitting duck in the dark while getting
out her wallet, and having to hold her cell phone in one hand as a flashlight
because the keypad
What's sad, is that I have offered my services to several downtown business
owners, at a largely discounted rate over the last 4yrs, only to be scoffed at,
told that the Chamber was handling marketing/advertising, and that once the
Waterfront drew in people downtown would be fine
Someone was
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@... wrote:
You didn't tell me to move. Sorry if I'm carrying on. I'm simply providing
counter point as a person who spends 40 hours a week on Bond Street and
telling you what people are saying on a daily basis.
As for carrying on, imagine
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Dear Friends and Family,
Boy did fall hit us in the face, and some possible light snow this weekend, its
time for spring. It has been a busy fall at Plan B. We were
I am going to talk to the city and see if we can come up with a workable
solution for employees with a restricted parking area nearby that is well lit.
But to make that work, if even possible, is that all have to work together.
That's business owners, employees, etc. No handing out the permits
Thanks Dan.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote:
I am going to talk to the city and see if we can come up with a workable
solution for employees with a restricted parking area nearby that is well
lit. But to make that work, if even possible, is that all have to
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@... wrote:
Do you ever stop to think that maybe the ghost town we are now seeing points
to the fact that the Cookman area is full of low traffic specialty retailers
and the residents and employees made it look like more was going on then it
But tell me there is a designated place for them to park now? How many spaces
are we talking about that might be set aside? There has to be some charge for
it though - $2-$3 a day?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@... wrote:
Thanks Dan.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,
At my office on Bond, we have no designated parking,and on a daily basis we
have about 3-4 of our employees driving to work. I can definitely speak for the
guy who sits next to me, who would be vehemently opposed to spending $60 a
month to park. He's totally peeved about the parking situation
This concerns me. I am out and about often on Cookman at night and rarely see
any police on foot patrol. I see patrol cars cruise by on occasion but no foot
patrol, which would help with mugging attempts I think (and overall crime in
general)
Am I missing them, or are they truly lacking at
Yawn.
I forgot to get a workout calendar for my wife off the 'net. Turned out fitness
lifestyles had it. Told her I had already picked it up.
Jumped in car, pulled up in front of Fitness lifestyles, ran in, got the
calendar and left. skipped the meter for that stop.
That's all it was, a stop.
Another not good idea.
Why?
From experience on the beach in deal, we have a system for the two hour rule.
1. If someone is coming down, we ask are our tires marked
If answer is yes, we ask, did you wipe them?
or...
someone gets up and moves the cars. usually requires 2 people to switch
Always wondered about this, I've been dying to bring my grandfathers cart down
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From: oakdorf oakd...@yahoo.com
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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:31:02
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at about $1400 per month for a 1 bedroom, you can't say the downtown area is
affordable
while it may be cool to live there, you have to be able to make a living to do
so.
Same thing in NYC. I went up there to see my son and my daughter came along.
Then my son's girlfriend.
I got to the
http://www.nj.gov/mvc/Vehicle/LowSpeed.htm
According to this, Ocean Twp has a ban on them. Have to see if that's still a
fact.
They have road ready golf carts vs true elecric. Also gas carts vs electric.
I've been waiting and wanting the Tesla sedan...
But a golf cart would suit my needs.
Per the City Clerk LSV's are legal in Asbury providing they meet the Motor
Vehicle requirements
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From: oakdorf oakd...@yahoo.com
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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:48:14
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Hinge during that time you collected did you take advantage of any state or fed
program for s cling or job training. Reason I ask a woman I know told me she
went ba k and got her masters degree courtesy of the state. Not a bad deal.
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