That would be great. I hate that space being all closed off and
vacant.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
wesley grove sales office??
I just got back from geting a dog at the mayfair. They laid out a
Wesley Grove Doormat at what was the Esperanza
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That would be great. I hate that space being all closed off and
vacant.
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wesley grove sales office??
I just got back
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John C. LiDestri [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Dan or anyone have any information on the Esperanza?
..just curious
drove by yesterday and they were continuing to pack up
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based on the fact that I was under contract and that they have not
reached out to me I guess you can't be optimistic about
them getting anything started anytime soonlooks like Dean got in
over his head.
hopefully the momentum MM will create on the BW will direct people's
attention away
Thanks Oakdorf, i guess packing up is what's going on! I'm surpised almost
that MM didn't want anything to do with it. Right on the center of the Ocean
Ave spand... I guess Wesley grove was enough for them for the current time.
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Never miss a thing.
I completely agree. It was the first thing I thought of when construction was
halted. I
made a very similar post the day after the news of the shutdown hit.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since there seems to be no movement to resume the Esperanza
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since there seems to be no movement to resume the Esperanza project
Because you can't see something doesn't mean it does not exist.
allow me to share with you my recommendation at a recent Council
Meeting.
Background -
allow me to share with you my recommendation at a recent Council
Meeting.
Background - Everything done so far is the foundation for a very
large highrise - foundations, design, etc. The lower levels that
are
just appearing are designed to be parking levels.
Make a deal with
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We are considering that. Be patient.
Who is We ??
Werner
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bob73121 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dan:
Are you saying that there is a plan to consider completing the
parking garage for use as a public commercial parking facility,
while possibly selling the air rights for residential development in
the future. What
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote:
We are considering that. Be patient.
Who is We ??
Werner
Correction noted, I should
Who are you trying to kid :-)
You've dropped more hints than we have bombs on Baghdad that you are
somehow involved in the inside, if not at least privvy to the inside
chatter.
Spill it.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Who are you trying to kid :-)
You've dropped more hints than we have bombs on Baghdad that you are
somehow involved in the inside, if not at least privvy to the inside
chatter.
Not dropping hints. Merely trying to
Okee doke. Your word's good enough for me.
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justifiedright@ wrote:
Who are you trying to kid :-)
You've dropped more hints than we have bombs on Baghdad that you
are
this makes a ton of sensefor the reasons listed below as well as
the fact that if that partially built site sits there without
activity, it will lead many outsiders who are potential condo and /
or home buyers skepticle of the viability of a successful
redevelopment and detract from any
I went there, too and stopped reading!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John
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I got to La Shawn Barber and stopped reading.
http://tinyurl.com/2slsb3
On Dec 27, 2007, at 6:29 PM, justifiedright wrote:
Islamofascists from Saudi Arabia.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You said Nothing happens in a vacuum. That would mean everything
is connected.
So you connect Reagan to 9/11 but not Iraq, exempting them from your
Universal Rule that nothing happens in a vaccum. Incredible.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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I object to the movie's eventual tie-in to 9/11 (it's America's fault
that the Taliban took over Afghanistan, therefore, America caused
9/11).
People are upset with the alleged attempt of the Bush administration
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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justifiedright@ wrote:
I object to the movie's eventual tie-in to 9/11 (it's America's
fault
that the Taliban took over Afghanistan, therefore, America
caused
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I guess Tommy doesn't believe it's possible for America to do
wrong...
By this statement do you assert America was wrong to assist the
Afghans against the Russians?
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I guess Tommy doesn't believe it's possible for America to do wrong...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
justifiedright@ wrote:
I object to the movie's eventual tie-in to 9/11 (it's America's fault
I'm not clear Dan: You do believe there was an Iraq-9/11 connection
or you don't?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
justifiedright@ wrote:
So you believe Iraq and 9/11 were connected?
Yes. The Bush
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
justifiedright@ wrote:
I'm not clear Dan: You do believe there was an Iraq-9/11
connection
or you don't?
Prior to us invading? Tenuous at best. Whatever
I thought that the attackers, were from Saudi Arabia!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
justifiedright@ wrote:
I'm not clear Dan: You do believe there was an Iraq-9/11 connection
or you don't?
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So you believe Iraq and 9/11 were connected?
Yes. The Bush administration attempted to use the attacks of 9/11 as a
reason to invade Iraq. That's the connection.
You walked into that punch.
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I'm not clear Dan: You do believe there was an Iraq-9/11 connection
or you don't?
Prior to us invading? Tenuous at best. Whatever connection there may
be it was not necessary for us to invade. We should have kept
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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Then I guess some things happen in a vacuum and are not connected;
contrary to your original point.
Nice try. You set up the twp events/circumstances. Saying that
nothing happens in vacuum is not the same as saying
Oh SNAP
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
justifiedright@ wrote:
Then I guess some things happen in a vacuum and are not connected;
contrary to your original point.
Nice try. You set up the twp
I guess the wisecrack (which I admit I don't get) was a way for you to
avoid facing what you said.
Oak asked me about Charlie Wilson's War, and I said I wouldn't go
becaue it tries to make a connection between Reagan and 9/11 (how
stupid).
In response you said nothing happens in a vacuum.
I
Islamofascists from Saudi Arabia.
Islamofascists are in many countries - even mine:
http://tinyurl.com/2q8l8s
That's why we have to kill them before they kill us.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Sharon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought that the attackers, were from Saudi Arabia!
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Pogo: We have met the enemy and he is us when we succumb to jingoistic
oversimplifications.
In a message dated 12/27/2007 6:29:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Islamofascists from Saudi Arabia.
Islamofascists are in many countries - even mine:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pogo: We have met the enemy and he is us when we succumb to
jingoistic
oversimplifications.
So now you compare Americans to the Islamofascists that want us dead?
That's revolting.
Tell it to this guy:
86 the So now you schtick which is a classic gowhackanoggin distraction.
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So now you compare Americans
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I got to La Shawn Barber and stopped reading.
http://tinyurl.com/2slsb3
On Dec 27, 2007, at 6:29 PM, justifiedright wrote:
Islamofascists from Saudi Arabia.
Islamofascists are in many countries - even mine:
http://tinyurl.com/2q8l8s
That's why we have to kill them before they kill us.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I guess the wisecrack (which I admit I don't get) was a way for you to
avoid facing what you said.
Oak asked me about Charlie Wilson's War, and I said I wouldn't go
becaue it tries to make a connection between
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PS.. Tommy, go see Charlie Wilsons War
I saw the Documentary on the History Channel yesterday. Really
interesting. Loved it.
I object to the movie's eventual tie-in to 9/11 (it's America's fault
that the Taliban took over
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote:
PS.. Tommy, go see Charlie Wilsons War
I hear the movie tries to tie the Reagan Administration to 9/11 with
the above argument in the end. How stupid.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John C. LiDestri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/base/news-
12/1197440355201690.xmlcoll=1
One of the big issues is NOT to allow it to be redesigned in such a way
you wind up with something that looks like Asbury Towers.
in AP as in Hoboken and JC.
What is the difference between Metro projects in AP, Hoboken and JC?
Partners.
What you didn't get invited to the Ivanka Tramp Jewelery show at The
JC trump towers?? I would of gone for the fun of it and a shot.
Apparently about 100 people showed up. That was
I just got Trump Condos a $60m reduction in assesments ($10M in
taxes). But get an invite?
That calls for a piece of her collection, that is a piece of
jewelery collection.
The fact remains that Paramount, Kush and Metro all agreed to pay the
price to play. Kush was in the right time,
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What you didn't get invited to the Ivanka Tramp Jewelery show at The
JC trump towers?? I would of gone for the fun of it and a shot.
Apparently about 100 people showed up. That was Nov 27.
I just got Trump Condos a $60m
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are other differences between Hoboken/JC and AP besides the
partners.
The markets in JC and Hoboken are better. And Metro Homes' two
projects in JC, Trump Tower and Gulls Cove, are much closer to
completion.
Just
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Paul Vail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are other differences between Hoboken/JC and AP besides the
partners.
The markets in JC and Hoboken are better. And Metro Homes' two
projects in JC, Trump Tower and Gulls Cove, are much closer to
completion.
The dead live on:
..On the severely depressed west side of town, where the first
construction in 16 years took place a year ago with the completion of
six town houses, Mr. Addeo said that the city now hoped to build a mix
of 60 attached and detached homes. They would be on a five-acre
I don't necessarily disagree with you about Asbury Partners. And I
smiled when you wrote we have ourselves. I completely agree.
Clearly the city and the council can no longer allow boardwalk
redevelopment to run on autopilot. Too many variables in the
marketplace have changed. The course
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Paul Vail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Being a member of the Asbury Park city council has to be one of the
toughest jobs going. Most of these guys have full time jobs and
families to support on top of their council responsibilities. They
need all the help
No, you have been very constructive!
Wish I could say the same of some others on this board.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Being a member of the Asbury Park city council has to be one of
I'll second that.
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Being a member of the Asbury Park city council has to be one of the
toughest jobs going. Most of these guys have full time jobs and
families to support on top of their council responsibilities. They
All I want to do with advertising is bring traffic, said Harry
Dubin, Athena director of marketing and sales. Five percent of
traffic I can close. I may have to see 100 people now to sell 10 units
because the subprime mess is giving me more people who don't qualify
for loans. But it all comes back
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh yeah, $30k for a parking spacehow much is land worth NOW.
Someone should call the tax assessor. Werner. A Typical parking space
is 12x20. How many parking spaces per acre? We turn to Google, the
engine that makes
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82
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True. Those were the only aboptable matters as they were the only
matters reviewed by the Planning Board. The June draft wasn't.
Clarification. Only the March 15 version was actually marked DRAFT.
The later June 5
It is simply a clerical error. The Planning Board reviewed an
amendment to the plan dated March 2002. That is the official
amendment that the Council voted on in June 2002.
There is a separate document dated June 2002. It was not looked at
by the planning board, nor did the City council
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