2fine4u -
Hopefully some alterations will be made to the Convention hall to make it
easier for people handicaped to move around! cough cough, is this allowed??? I
hope so!
This brings up a good point about the Paramount entrance that aws
rencelty torn down. Sure it had a ramp, but
A comment on 2-way Ocean Ave. I kept looking for oncoming traffic and
noticed cars that knew, turned off, into one of the avenues, which is
what we did, ASAP! Lots of out of towners, DON'T know and I could
envision "head-ons"! Red light GONE, from where the Wonder Bar is, on
Kingsley! I asked,
This, is what happens, when you think YOU know all the answers! Ever
heard of "forecasting"? It's what ALL marketers, or Business
Marketing Professionals, (emphasis on Professionals), do, BEFORE,
presenting their product, service or area of expertise! How in the
world, did they NOT plan for park
"Tsk, tsk. An engineer at that. Are you suggesting that steam is not
power? But alas, you are once again correct. You didn;t screw that
thing up did you?"
exactly what i was trying to get at in my last post. Just because someone
uses the term "power" doesn't mean its wrong. Is using the t
"Why is now refered to as a Power Plant ??? It never generated
electricity !!!"
I don't think thats rewritting history, thats over examination! The plant
did not produce electricty. What did it produce? Some sort of "power"?
-
Ahhh...imagining tha
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> For example - The building next to the Casino is a Heating Plant not
> a Power Plant. The correct name is actually the "Beach Central
> Heating Plant" but Heating Plant will do fine.
>
> Why is now refered to as a Pow
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> dan, questiong with all due respect your take on the lot behind the
> empress, i know you are more up to date on these matters than me, i
> always thought that lot was first owned by carabretta transfered to
> partners w
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie wrote:
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> > oakdorf - Those are from 1964'? I see something on there in fine
> print that says "over look park"
It says "OVERLOOK PARK"
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I just took a look at the 1st and 2nd ave. new islands, and there
is definitely no room for
> angled parking pointed in towards them.
>
=
=
First - The a
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apoojo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> with time and history things change, the year 1964 afterwhich a
bust
> of kennedy was erected and the name changed to kennedy park, i
agree
> with werner, look at an old map of the beachfront, bradley park
was
> called
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> oakdorf - Those are from 1964'? I see something on there in fine
print that says "over look park" A few weeks ago, didnt Werner, or
maybe it was someone else point out that the park was in fact not
called that? But so
"I just took a look at the 1st and 2nd ave. new islands, and there is
definitely no room for
angled parking pointed in towards them."
Ha! Fast work there Hinge. I'll check it out again later. I know for a
fact the islands on both sides of The Esperanza DOES haev angled parking out
from
oakdorf - Those are from 1964'? I see something on there in fine print that
says "over look park" A few weeks ago, didnt Werner, or maybe it was someone
else point out that the park was in fact not called that? But something else?
I guess the term used, "Overlook park" really is the correc
I just took a look at the 1st and 2nd ave. new islands, and there is definitely
no room for
angled parking pointed in towards them.
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> "Well, I'll take a look tonight.
> All I can say is that I can't see how they are going t
parking in 64:
take a look at the map in picture 2.
http://www.asburyboardwalk.com/cards/c6.htm
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"The owners of the EMpress agreed to have their parking lot condemned
for construction of a parking garage. They will be given spaces in the
garage in exchange."
I remember hearing about that a while ago. I guess thats a good thing then.
it seems odd though, to block the hotel like that.
"Well, I'll take a look tonight.
All I can say is that I can't see how they are going to squeeze the same amount
of parking
onto 1st and 2nd Ave. with the new layout, and so far I haven't seen anything
that
indicates that "they" intend to."
I've noticed some of the traingle islands are l
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> Yes, i think the parking garages should be open later. It's a
waste when there closed at night, with people searching around for a
place to park. At least haev them open till 11, or 12 on weekends. I
hope the
Ha, i wasn't bragging. I just used it as a comparison. If you're going to Red
Bank, you're going there for a reason most likely. A certain bar, or store.
Parking shouldn't stop you from going somewhere. You'd walk some, if the trip
doing so was worth it. I see what your saying though, i re
Gary, Yes, i do think there is a problem. I didn't say there wasn't I just
ment i don't think the big problem will take place for a few more years. Even
before all this redevelopment at the waterfront took place, there was alwasy a
parking problem for shows at Convention Hall.
Yes, i
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Do you really think there's not a parking problem now?
>
> Cookman Ave on most nights is packed and hard to find spaces. Ocean
> Ave during special events is packed and hard to find spaces. I've
> seen events at Conv
that's why West Grove Shopping center is packed.
Parking.
Don't forget - where are the employees of all these places going to
park? They'll have to bus them in.
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Do you really think there's not a parking problem now?
Cookman Ave on most nights is packed and hard to find spaces. Ocean
Ave during special events is packed and hard to find spaces. I've
seen events at Convention Hall take up nearly every space until the
Stone Pony lot (and some there
Well, I'll take a look tonight.
All I can say is that I can't see how they are going to squeeze the same amount
of parking
onto 1st and 2nd Ave. with the new layout, and so far I haven't seen anything
that
indicates that "they" intend to.
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Cold weather walks? Don't worry chuck - we have Global Warming and
rising waters. So much for the Pony.
Take a look at the "parking problem" recongzied in 1964 in the chamber
brochure. Then you eliminate A,B,C,D on the map. Yes, you gained a
garage that can't be used.
That's why malls suc
"Yeah, but there is no way that diagonal parking is going to work well with the
new islands.
No way. The way it looks to me, there is no plan for diagonal or other parking
attached to
the new islands. Maybe end to end, but even that drastically reduces the amount
of
parking that was previousl
"Wrong, there is a parking problem NOW.
When people are parking in front of my home for a show at the Stone Pony, there
is
definitely a problem.
And when it would've been as quick for me to walk to the Wonder Bar for a show
as it took
to find parking, then I think that's also a problem.
I do ag
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> It's hard to stop on cook if you're in a hurry and passing through -
> now. You need to know where to park and park so one feels safe. You
> might need a couple cutouts from Cookman to Lake - so it flows and
> you do
"It's not more functional at all.
It worked fine the way it was for decades.
I hate to say it, but it wasn't broke, so why fix it?
And AP residents will have to reprogram their brains to adjust.
It surprised me that I didn't look to the left...not once, but twice. I think
pedestrians who
are used
Yeah, but there is no way that diagonal parking is going to work well with the
new islands.
No way. The way it looks to me, there is no plan for diagonal or other parking
attached to
the new islands. Maybe end to end, but even that drastically reduces the amount
of
parking that was previously
Wrong, there is a parking problem NOW.
When people are parking in front of my home for a show at the Stone Pony, there
is
definitely a problem.
And when it would've been as quick for me to walk to the Wonder Bar for a show
as it took
to find parking, then I think that's also a problem.
I do agr
"What i'm saying is that on 1st Ave. and 2nd Ave., it appears that
there won't be anymore parking attached to the center islands that
they are now expanding into a triangular shape. Perhaps they'll fit
some cars in end to end, but the diagonal parking just won't safely
fit there...thus, more then h
YES, It's true, one day there will be a parking problem (like there is now
in red bank), However, this is not going to happen for years (and YEARS!).
How did Asbury Park of the past survive??? You park and walk!? How come,
today, everyone demands more parking then what's there now? Not
It's not more functional at all.
It worked fine the way it was for decades.
I hate to say it, but it wasn't broke, so why fix it?
And AP residents will have to reprogram their brains to adjust.
It surprised me that I didn't look to the left...not once, but twice. I think
pedestrians who
are used
"i'm with you on this one. I still don't see why they felt the need to make it
a two way street."
Isn't it more functional to be able to go both ways? How many times in the
past have you seen cars "go too far"? Then you see them circling around
Kingsley to get back to where they want to
What i'm saying is that on 1st Ave. and 2nd Ave., it appears that
there won't be anymore parking attached to the center islands that
they are now expanding into a triangular shape. Perhaps they'll fit
some cars in end to end, but the diagonal parking just won't safely
fit there...thus, more then ha
""A simple case of their not sure what's going on either"
That is a profound statement if there ever was one about the redevelopment.
Big kudos to you for that one, and i'm being serious."
Ha! It makes sence to me. They don't know exactly what's going on, at least
with MM i think. So what
"Are you serious?
More then half the parking spaces on either side of the Pony are gone.
And the arc that now exists in front of CH has lost it's spaces.
Not good..."
I forgot about the curve in front of Convention Hall, thats true. What are
you saying about the spaces near the Stone pony?
"I haven't seen what you are talking about, but i'll take a look.
There is no way angled spaces are gonna fit near the Stone Pony
though. There's just not enough room there, but maybe i'm wrong.
Another interesting thing I noticed over the weekend is that when I
drive to Ocean Ave. at the end of Fi
1. Parking on Cookman: Forget it.
- Steinbach building. Once completed, a restaraunt that should seat
a couple hundred, a couple offices, plus 8,000 sq ft of retail TBD.
Then add in 63 apartments with maybe 30 spots allocated around the
corner. Maybe 63 cars, maybe 30 cars may 100 cars jsut fo
Me either.
Oh, i'm wonderingwere you at the Wonder Bar on Sat. for Graham Parker?
If so, I did sound for him that night.
Great show! And I really had a good time being there and Debbie was great.
H
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Hinge,
>
> I'm with
"A simple case of their not sure what's going on either"
That is a profound statement if there ever was one about the redevelopment.
Big kudos to you for that one, and i'm being serious.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I don't think anyones hidding anythin
Hinge,
I'm with you on this one. I still don't see why they felt the need
to make it a two way street.
On May 7, 2007, at 1:26 PM, Hinge wrote:
I haven't seen what you are talking about, but i'll take a look.
There is no way angled spaces are gonna fit near the Stone Pony
though. There's
Are you serious?
More then half the parking spaces on either side of the Pony are gone.
And the arc that now exists in front of CH has lost it's spaces.
Not good...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> how many parking spaces were lost? When you look around, y
I don't think anyones hidding anything. I think it's a simple casse of their
not sure what's going yet either! Everythings up in the air right now i have a
feeling. They dont want to say one thing, and have it change later on. (my
last post about parknig, i know some spots are missing, bu
how many parking spaces were lost? When you look around, you see spots in the
same areas that use to have spots? With the exception that the roads are more
narrow? What areas were the spots lost in, excluding the section of lake ave
that was cut out?
---
I haven't seen what you are talking about, but i'll take a look.
There is no way angled spaces are gonna fit near the Stone Pony
though. There's just not enough room there, but maybe i'm wrong.
Another interesting thing I noticed over the weekend is that when I
drive to Ocean Ave. at the end of Fir
"Which ones are completed?"
Not "completed" but enough done for you to see what's going on. I usally get
my blocks mixed up, but the ones on both sides of the Esperanza? It shows the
angled spaces coming out from the center triangles. The roads not in great
shape, but they are operatio
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote:
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> > So...where's the PR? What are they hiding?
>
> - Inexperienced City Officials
Nah, they're in plain sight.
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote:
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> > So...where's the PR? What are they hiding?
> ==
>
> - Inexperienced City Officials
> - Developer
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So...where's the PR? What are they hiding?
==
- Inexperienced City Officials
- Developer Control
- Poor Planning
- No Performence Deadlines
- Destuction of Natio
Is it possible that this lack of parking thing is a wake up call about what the
future of the
oceanfront area (i.e. residential) is really all about? I think the parking
problem is just as bad
on Cookman.
And, doesn't it seem like we are in the dark about some of the work being done?
Nobody
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Really too late, barring a major overhaul of the "Plan"
Well, that is exactly what is stopping MM's deal from being final.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> This weekend, there were a couple of events that brought a bunch of
people, but there
> definitely wasn't enough parking since many spaces have now
disappeared. There were even
> people parking in front of my house on Fri
Which ones are completed?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> "Does anybody know if there are any plans to allow parking along the new
> expanded
islands"
>
> Yes, angled spaced. Look at the completed ones.
>
>
>
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