[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

2011-09-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Dave dsher4@... wrote: Rather than attack i will ask dan what the reason for the Cookman avenue closure is? at first blush i don't agree with it either but perhaps there is a logical reason. Dan can you please comment? Thank you If you were at the

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

2011-09-20 Thread arcman210
Is there a reason or clarification as to why the Stone Pony was viewed as removable from the site? (pardon my ignorance if this has already been explained, but in the report I couldn't find reasoning behind this move) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: --- In

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

2011-09-20 Thread oakdorf
The Big Dig. tunnel it. or raise the plaza. How much would that be worth by vacating streets and does the city get any $. And if the character of the Pony were recreated, either at current site in a new, safer building, would that be so bad? If springsteen were to play in a new pony, would

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

2011-09-20 Thread fancypaaantz
Oak, you missed the point. It is ALL prime real estate, most of which has been vacant for years and years. My concern that I expressed is the pattern of removing viable businesses with empty lots. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: The Big Dig. tunnel it. or

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

2011-09-20 Thread dfsavgny
I do not think its clear from the recommendations. And I think it was the concerns I had which is the incompatibility of intense entertainment and residential uses on the same site(s). The City learned its lesson as well on that with Cookman. That's why proper zoning specifies uses etc in

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

2011-09-20 Thread cbrianwatkins
? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsav...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:17:41 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

2011-09-20 Thread dfsavgny
BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsavgny@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:17:41 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure? I do not think its clear from

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

2011-09-20 Thread arcman210
Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure? I do not think its clear from the recommendations. And I think it was the concerns I had which is the incompatibility of intense entertainment and residential uses on the same site(s

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

2011-09-20 Thread Hinge
? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsavgny@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:17:41 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

2011-09-20 Thread dfsavgny
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure? I do not think its clear from the recommendations. And I think it was the concerns I had which is the incompatibility of intense entertainment and residential uses on the same site(s). The City learned its lesson as well

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

2011-09-20 Thread Hinge
@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:17:41 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure? I do not think its clear from the recommendations. And I think

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

2011-09-20 Thread dfsavgny
: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:17:41 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure? I do not think its clear from the recommendations. And I think it was the concerns I had

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

2011-09-20 Thread dfsavgny
BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsavgny@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:17:41 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

2011-09-20 Thread dfsavgny
2011 14:17:41 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure? I do not think its clear from the recommendations. And I think it was the concerns I had which is the incompatibility of intense

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

2011-09-20 Thread cbrianwatkins
...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:34:38 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure? Well since the Pony and all that property is privately owned we (you, me, city) cant tell them what

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

2011-09-20 Thread dfsavgny
@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure? I do not think its clear from the recommendations. And I think it was the concerns I had which is the incompatibility of intense entertainment and residential uses on the same site(s). The City learned

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

2011-09-20 Thread Hinge
BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsavgny@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:17:41 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

2011-09-20 Thread dfsavgny
: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:34:38 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure? Well since the Pony and all that property is privately owned we (you, me, city) cant tell them what to do

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

2011-09-20 Thread arcman210
@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:34:38 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure? Well since the Pony and all that property is privately owned we (you, me, city) cant tell

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

2011-09-20 Thread dfsavgny
Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsavgny@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:34:38 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure? Well since

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

2011-09-20 Thread oakdorf
Thanks Dan for your time, expertise and responses. In the meantime, I'm gonna enjoy what's here today. Hopefully I-Star creates a great combination for the future, incorporating the bits and pieces of AP past into the concept. And they have to.

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

2011-09-20 Thread oakdorf
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[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

2011-09-20 Thread arcman210
Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure? Well since the Pony and all that property is privately owned we (you, me, city) cant tell them what to do with it. But I think its our recommendation that the summer stage move eventually. I

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

2011-09-20 Thread dfsavgny
@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:15:37 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure? Point taken. You know that the outdoor summer stage days are numbered when that can be developed with residences. That's

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

2011-09-20 Thread cbrianwatkins
dfsavgny@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:15:37 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure? Point taken. You know that the outdoor summer stage days are numbered when that can

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

2011-09-20 Thread oakdorf
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[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

2011-09-20 Thread dfsavgny
15:47:38 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure? Built 1914. The first zoning laws in the US were put in place in 1916 in NYC and were a direct result of the building of 120 Broadway. Dont start