In reading the Enjoy The Music review, I noticed the use of the latest
Alison Krauss & Union Station recording as an evaluation tool.
While the music is excellent and Alison's voice has been recorded very
well, this CD like most new relases has a lot of compression. It has
been mastered to sound
pablolie Wrote:
> > OK, so let's see - what is the ultimate benefit of phase accuracy?
> What does it help reproduce in a stereo recording?
>
Phase accuracy plays a key role in soundstaging and imaging. It allows
you to properly identify each instrument and it's relative position in
the soundfi
> The results are a lack of "ACCUracy" compared to the source.
OK, so let's see - what is the ultimate benefit of phase accuracy? What
does it help reproduce in a stereo recording?
It goes back to a point I made before: since most phasing is introduced
utterly artificially in most recording thes
My point is that MP3 reduces or eliminates the PHASE relationship
between channels to achieve certain level of compression depending on
the chosen bitrate.
The results are a lack of "ACCUracy" compared to the source.
Precisely what the Accuphase engineers were trying to preserve when
designing t
I agree with Skunk. I can't hear any artifacts due to the stock power
supply and my upstream equipment has very good regulation and S/N
performance.
I put my money on a good outboard DAC and this I can clearly hear!
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Lite Audio DAC60 tube DAC
Pioneer SX-1980
Vanderstee
> All in good fun though. We're both here because music is
> important to us, but getting 'the best sound from your
> squeezebox' is not the most important thing in the world.
Agree with you on all counts.
As I have stated before: I am very likely to re-digitize those
recording that are impor
pablolie Wrote:
> > I'll add: 'you can lead a whore to culture, but you can't make
> > her think'
>
> The company you frequent is your business, I don't judge. :-)
I don't ride horses or whores, just return trifling cliches.
All in good fun though. We're both here because music is important
Funny, Accuphase stands for accuracy and phase.
MP3 is not accurate since it relies on destroying supposedly inaudible
phase characteristics!
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Vandersteen 2Ce Signature
Vandersteen 2W
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> I'll add: 'you can lead a whore to culture, but you can't make
> her think'
The company you frequent is your business, I don't judge. :-)
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pablolie Wrote:
> > I'll take my FLAC on SB's DAC over your mp3 on accuphase's
> > dac though, thanks.
>
> As you said, ignorance is bliss.
I'll add: 'you can lead a whore to culture, but you can't make her
think'.
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> Why then limit yourself to inferior compressed lossy material >
(MP3)?
Great gear is about musicality even -or especially- when the source
isn't perfect. Audiophile 101, really.
> I much rather live with those small recording imperfections
> an knowing some algorhythm software butchered the
I'm not going to try the ground lifting plug.
Tomorrow I am going to try to run the coax satellite cables through my
monster power cleaner (I have the coax cables connected direct to the
sat receiver from the wall atm) and see what happens..my hope is that
it will help since the power cleaner i
agentsmith Wrote:
>
> One possibility is to issue the Linear supply as an option, with
> additional shipping costs etc.
FLAME WAR! I think saying a cheap linear supply is an upgrade
is too general of a statement. The SD folks probably feel you'd have to
feed the analog or digital section direc
I have no idea what flame trolls are all about, but I wanted some
feedback on something I thought was odd given the amount of effort gone
in to putting the new SB3 together. I have nothing but praise for my
now set aside SB1
PS - I did mean SB designers
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pablolie Wrote:
>
> Like the OS I use now will be around in 5 years... right. Good luck
> running that application then.
>
5 years? I think you underestimate. Win 98 still has a very large user
base and it's 8 years old now. I can still run DOS apps from the early
80's on my XP machine. Likewi
pablolie Wrote:
>
> That's an ignorant thing to say. Listen to jazz recording until the
> early 70s. A 256kbps MP3 is not going to be the gating factor in the
> vast majority of cases.
It is if you rip it from vinyl. Ignorance is ripping vinyl to mp3. FLAC
is bliss. Sorry to be obnoxious :)
pab
I must add I still have MP3 encoded material from years ago. I don't
plan to get rid of it, since I have some rare material.
For new rips though, I am totally FLAC. I have even ripped to FLAC some
older 1940's Sinatra recordings. I could have used MP3 since most are
low in fidelity. But HD space
pablolie Wrote:
> > I don't. I own Accuphase gear, and fantastic speakers. C
Why then limit yourself to inferior compressed lossy material (MP3)?
As for not wanting to expose defects in recordings. Well in this life
nothing is perfect. I much rather live with those small recording
imperfections
> ... keep a copy of the encoder/decoder software on a CDROM ..
Like the OS I use now will be around in 5 years... right. Good luck
running that application then.
> In another year or so, mp3 players will disappear ...
You're going a tad overboard. Out of all the encodings around, MP3 is
still
One thing that people forgot about is for $300, a linear power supply
would possibly add significant shipping cost.
Also, a majority of the people would probably prefere a less bulky
power supply.
One possibility is to issue the Linear supply as an option, with
additional shipping costs etc.
-
tyler_durden Wrote:
> In another year or so, mp3 players will disappear because the cost of
> storage will be so low everyone will go lossless, first with lossless
> compression like flac. aac or wma, then in another couple years, you'll
> just be storing .wav files (for CDs, until you need to st
> Buying 5,000 compact discs and having 250 *good* ones is
> either poor selection or incredibly bad luck.
That's an ignorant thing to say. Listen to jazz recording until the
early 70s. A 256kbps MP3 is not going to be the gating factor in the
vast majority of cases.
> It does beg the question,
krs Wrote:
> is this really the case and can the BS designers got it that wrong?
I assume you meant SB designers :)
I personally think they did a great job designing from top to bottom,
at an attractive price. Remember, only some people report hearing a
difference. I would venture that a major
OK anyone from Hong Kong here?
Any one has any idea where to buy a decent linear power supply in Hong
Kong?
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krs wrote:
> I have read variuos reviews claiming the power supply shipped with the
> SB3 is inferior to almost any off the shelf product availble on the
> market - is this really the case
Is this a flame troll? or a question?
It is nearly impossible for such a claim to be real.
The SD folks put
I have read variuos reviews claiming the power supply shipped with the
SB3 is inferior to almost any off the shelf product availble on the
market - is this really the case and can the BS designers got it that
wrong?
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John Stimson Wrote:
>
> So what's the downside of FLAC?
> > > >
- Disk space. But disks are cheap. Cheap cheap cheap. If you
> don't want noisy disks near where you relax or work, don't put them
> there. Put them somewhere else.
>
> Did I mention that disks are cheap?> >
An
I am glad everything turned out well for you.
Keep us posted on the sound when you get it!
ezkcdude Wrote:
> I wanted to update my situation with the fried DAC. Derek fixed it! I
> was sure it was toast, but apparently he just needed to change out the
> voltage regulators. I must have reversed
Excellent point there Skunk.
Power supply regulation and low ripple performance are important, but
their benefits will be much more audible in your amplification
components. My receiver has a 25 lbs toroidal power transformer and
88,000 uF of filter capacitance, for instance. S/N ratio is 120 dB
Patrik - sure. The 4 will be ordered as soon as I get a couple more (3
to be exact). I would be glad to add a SC916-01 as well. It is
sitting next to me.
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mamsterla Wrote:
> Hi:
>
> I ran a group buy for Scientific Conversions transformers and I got a
> first batch and realized that I placed the order wrong. So, I need to
> get a minimum for a second batch of orders. I also have some extras
> available.
>
> The web page for products is here:
>
Hi there.
I actually used my SB3 with my Quad CDP doing the DtoA conversion. The
sound was much better than the SB3 analog outputs but I moved it to my
bedroom as that's what was originally intended. It is running through a
MF X-A1 integrated and Quad 11L speakers.
I've recently bought a MF X-10
Hi there.
Briefly used a Quad CD-P with the SB3 before it was moved to my bedroom
as was originally intended. Must say that the sound was hugely
different, being smoother with a less sibilant treble and tighter
bass.
It is expected if you think that the SB3 is essentially a 200pound
router with a
Weren't you arguing the merits of disk space and future support of the
format? It doesn't matter to me that you get off on particular rituals
and I think it's great that you realize that the point is to enjoy the
music, but what does that have to do with choosing between MP3 and
FLAC? The act of
pablolie Wrote:
>
> OK, so we can all crank up the passive-aggressive stanza here.
There are a couple things in that post I wish I could take back, but
that wasn't one of them. I didn't mean anything by it, sorry you took
offense. Buying 5,000 compact discs and having 250 *good* ones is
either
Hi:
I ran a group buy for Scientific Conversions transformers and I got a
first batch and realized that I placed the order wrong. So, I need to
get a minimum for a second batch of orders. I also have some extras
available.
The web page for products is here:
http://www.scientificonversions.com
> If all the cd's you pick sound that bad, I'd suggest
> reconsidering the music you purchase :P
OK, so we can all crank up the passive-aggressive stanza here. That
wasn't my point. My point is that a lot of recordings are not engineered
for audiophile listening. When you hear writers in the mag
Well - if you really want the extra euphony of the valves then yeah -
get a second hand Tri-Vista or the X-10. However, I would say that was
an optional "tuning" thing.
In my system/room the TACT 2.2 made a MUCH bigger improvement than
slinging a couple of valves across the DAC (and yes I've tried
Have you tried a ground lifting plug?
I'm talking about the $1 device that you use in old houses that don't
have a 3 hole outlet.
Try that first, and save your money.
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pablolie Wrote:
>
> You'll just hear a mediocre recording with higher resolution, but it'll
> remain mediocre. I thikn the average hifi system is superior to the
> average recording the music industry produces.
>
Hmm. Upgrading my system made cd's I yearned to 'crank up' much more
apt for doin
The thread has certainly mutated... :-)
My love has always been for the music, first and foremost. A huge and
constantly growing CD collection that irritates my wife, as well as
having been a hobbyist (and mediocre :-) percussion player, vocalist
and songwriter attests to. I haven't been in a hif
P Floding Wrote:
>
> It was interesting to hear you heard a difference. My second system
> keeps getting cheaper. At the moment I have a $30 power amp driving it,
> and it is superb.. Lots of money is not necessary to have a really
> enjoyable system.
Well, very much to the point of the topic;
Skunk Wrote:
> My system is only circa $1,000- and the Power One external linear
> regulated power supply made my jaw drop. The most notable improvement
> for me was bass response. I had the hardest time placing my sub, and
> always had the gain on the sub amp to max. With the external supply
> t
I haven't actually got my NV yet as there's a 2 week turnaround time at
the only distributer in the UK. However, if you look at the specs it
does say that the fan is temperature controlled. You could always swap
it out for a silent type as it's probably just a generic 92mm fan.
Maybe ask on the
Well, your definition of "audiophile" as being a TAS-reader who spends
enourmous amounts on interconnects is your own. Your definition of
"audiophile" being someone who likes "high end" as definied by TAS is
plain wrong. "high end" is just a term to define a segment of the
market.
I just had a lo
I wanted to update my situation with the fried DAC. Derek fixed it! I
was sure it was toast, but apparently he just needed to change out the
voltage regulators. I must have reversed the polarity which fried the
regulator(s?). He's now sending it back to me. What a relief! Best news
- he's not even
is there much noise from the ReadyNAS? is there an audible fan?
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pfarrell Wrote:
> P Floding wrote:
> > pfarrell Wrote:
> >>Is the audiophile world that old? I think The Absolute Sound is
> >>only about 15 years old. Maybe a little older.
> >
> > Why should TAS define "audiophile",
>
> They were the first to use the term "high end"
>
> Which is where morta
P Floding Wrote:
> Adequate for what?
> Are you talking about usage in a $500 system, or a $50 000 system? What
> other source compenent will it be as good as, when "adequate"? How much
> noise is adequate for the power supply to dump into the mains supply?
My system is only circa $1,000- and th
Hi,
I own a Denon AVR-4806 (THX® Ultra2 7.1 CH Reference A/V Surround
Receiver:
(http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/237.asp )
Here some spec's:
AL24 Processing - All Channels AL24+
24-bit/192-kHz DACs – Burr-Brown PCM-1791 2/8ch
24-bit/192-kHz DACs - Analog Devices –
Analog-to-Digit
P Floding wrote:
> pfarrell Wrote:
>>Is the audiophile world that old? I think The Absolute Sound is
>>only about 15 years old. Maybe a little older.
>
> Why should TAS define "audiophile",
They were the first to use the term "high end"
Which is where mortals start to think of the term 'audioph
crooner said the following on 02/21/2006 04:58 AM:
> I definitely agree. The original power supply is more than adequate.
> Better put money in an outboard DAC or even interconnects.
As P Floding says, adequate for what?
Obviously, you're happy with your squeezebox. Great. I am too.
However, tha
I did notice that thread thanks and I found an HK seller shipping
directly to the UK for £280 delivered (+import tax I assume). The
problem is the same as usual though in the fact that you can't easily
compare the two without buying everything.
Anyway, it's another option that I'll look into. (
Well, you could spend anything up to £1000 or more on a DAC, and it
would most likely make a difference. The rest of my system totals less
than yours and I ended up settling on the cyrus DAC-X some time after
listening to the MF X-DAC V3 on its own. The main reason I went for
the cyrus is its sw
Is it that important to get all three? I wasn't even assuming I needed
to get the X-PSU but after reading the Sterophile review, I see they
recommend it.
That's adding a lot to the overall cost and I don't really have a high
end setup - Yam RX-V4600 feeding Monitor Audio RS6's, so is it worth
th
Yes the formats are the same except for the electrical connection, and
the channel status bit:
spdif uses 75 Ohm coax (often terminated with non 75 Ohm RCA plugs) or
optical.
aes/ebu uses 110 Ohm balanced interconnect with xlr plugs.
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konut Wrote:
> As I'm not an engineer I tend to glean just enough information to look
> dangerous/ stupid. As I understand it the AES/EBU professional
> interface is more immune to jitter and reflections than SPDIF. As far
> as I can ascertain the data and timing information are kept separate
> y
crooner Wrote:
> I definitely agree. The original power supply is more than adequate.
> Better put money in an outboard DAC or even interconnects.
Adequate for what?
Are you talking about usage in a $500 system, or a $50 000 system? What
other source compenent will it be as good as, when "adequa
pfarrell Wrote:
>
> Is the audiophile world that old? I think The Absolute Sound is
> only about 15 years old. Maybe a little older.
>
> The idea of "high end" was pretty much defined by TAS.
> In the 70s and 80s, "stereo" was more of a mass market, or
> at least widespread, everyone in college
pfarrell Wrote:
>
>
> Is the audiophile world that old? I think The Absolute Sound is
> only about 15 years old. Maybe a little older.
>
>
I think the Audiophile world is MUCH older than that. Perhaps not the
term itself, and of course the technologies being fussed about are
changing all the
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