On Jul 26, 2006, at 8:49 AM, TiredLegs wrote:
Does the knob also act as a volume control?
Yes. Press the VOLUME button on the front panel and turn the knob to
adjust volume. After a couple of seconds of inactivity (or pressing
the VOLUME button again), the display will revert back to where
seanadams Wrote:
> Does the click come about once per second, and do you hear a faster or
> different patten when a long line of text is scrolling on the SB's
> screen? Is so then yes, it's the Cyrus picking up the (intentional)
> 2.4G emissions. We actually encountered this prenomenon withour ow
The Transporter looks promising.
Now the software needs to be improved - a lot. At the risk of being the
kid who shouts out that the emporer has no clothes I find Slim Server to
be a very slow, clunky program. I can't believe how long it takes to
list all my albums or artists. The software that
In my entire collection, I've only ever had a handful of discs that
contained errors that EAC could not properly rip. Of course admittedly
I'm Mr. Super-Perfectionist, so you will be hard pressed to find even a
fingerprint on any of my CDs. EAC would scan and scan and then report
the bad rip. I
Fifer Wrote:
> Of course, there's no reason why this can't be done at the ripping
> stage, so every streaming digital audio device can boat the same 'RUR'
> capability as this machine. Doesn't EAC do something like this?
EDIT: I forgot the smiley in my original post, I was being
sarcastic...
Wh
Fifer Wrote:
> Of course, there's no reason why this can't be done at the ripping
> stage, so every streaming digital audio device can boat the same 'RUR'
> capability as this machine. Doesn't EAC do something like this?
EAC does indeed perform repeated attempts to read bad sectors of CDs,
and us
CardinalFang Wrote:
> Edit, wow that is a interesting device! Error correction doesn't correct
> errors on CDs apparently. It makes the missing data up.
Of course, there's no reason why this can't be done at the ripping
stage, so every streaming digital audio device can boat the same 'RUR'
capabi
PhilNYC Wrote:
> The Transporter has balanced analog outputs. Is the internal design of
> the Transporter fully balanced?
yes
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The Transporter has balanced analog outputs. Is the internal design of
the Transporter fully balanced?
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Phil Leigh Wrote:
> Kind of hard to avoid them these days...(wi-fi that is)
>
> I presume you think they cause some kind of audible interference that
> will detract from your listening pleasure?
>
> I don't believe there is any evidence for this. I can't imagine any
> even half-way decent piece
TiredLegs Wrote:
> ...and in price. Given the markups needed to support the high end
> dealerships selling those brands (with protected territories and a ban
> on sales over the Internet), I suspect that for products comparable to
> Transporter, their pricing will be considerably higher.
Absolut
CardinalFang Wrote:
> I see you chose to not quote my reply where I said that the Opus could
> be extended by adding drives - I'm not pushing the opus either, it has
> some missing features too, but it is a complete package in the box,
> rip, server and playback. Slim is not - that matters to a l
CardinalFang Wrote:
> I think all the usual suspects, Naim, Linn, Meridian etc. will be in
> this space soon and it'll be intruiging to see how Slim stacks up
> against the establishment in trade reviews and recommendations.
...and in price. Given the markups needed to support the high end
dealer
PhilNYC Wrote:
>
> Those same people are not likely going to be satisfied with a 750GB
> internal hard drive on an Olive Opus, either...and as such, will likely
> not like the idea that they will be buying a redundant internal hard
> drive on an Opus.
>
I see you chose to not quote my reply whe
CardinalFang Wrote:
> We're talking about audiophiles here who shell out thousands on gear -
> in my mind it's far likely that they'll go straight for something that
> looks familiar and doesn't take them into uncharted territory - PCs.
> But you may well be right.
I am a card-carrying audiophi
Pale Blue Ego Wrote:
> The Voyager series from Boston Acoustics are, I believe, not just
> moisture-resistant but completely waterproof. They will keep on
> playing even if totally immersed. They sound good, too. In a small
> room the relative lack of deep bass shouldn't be a problem.
>
> htt
If you can get hold of one, the MF X-DAC v3 is worth a listen.
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PhilNYC Wrote:
> A couple of counter-points:
> - A newbie to networked music systems is probably more attracked to the
> SB than either the Transporter or Opus. Then they build up their
> library of music, and when they are ready for higher performance, they
> don't want to spend the money on a
especially when there are other players for half the price
http://www.richersounds.co.uk/showproduct.php?cda=showproduct&pid=CAMB-640H-SIL
guess it all boils down to how it sounds particularly for the
audiophile market and as mentioned by others much depends on what
those punters are aft
JJZolx Wrote:
> We're not talking about $300 Sony recievers and $100 Hyundai DVD
> players, we're talking about $5000 DACs and $15,000 two-way monitors.
We're not talking about $5000 DACs and $15,000 monitors. We are talking
about a $1999 network audio player, which I would be willing to wager
wi
JJZolx Wrote:
> Yes, that may very well be the case in commodity consumer electronics.
> Not high end audio. It's a market with its own rules and very diffrent
> market forces. We're not talking about $300 Sony recievers and $100
> Hyundai DVD players, we're talking about $5000 DACs and $15,00
CardinalFang Wrote:
> will announcing a new product before shipping damage existing sales of
> the SB3?
Usually, that effect kicks in when the new product is a replacement for
the existing product. Since the SB3 and Transporter are so different, I
would not expect a problem. In fact, I wouldn't b
CardinalFang Wrote:
> It was the cost comparison I was trying to underline since someone said
> he hadn't seen a comparable product. The Opus can actually access
> networked music via iTunes, but yes you are buying a redundant disk if
> you already have a library. For most new starters with netwo
And another one by Quested. Don't know much about them but at least
they look "normal"
http://www.quested.com/s/
I'm going to shut up now as I don't want to end up in an eBay bidding
war with anyone here!
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JJZolx Wrote:
> Yes, that may very well be the case in commodity consumer electronics.
> Not high end audio. It's a market with its own rules and very diffrent
> market forces. We're not talking about $300 Sony recievers and $100
> Hyundai DVD players, we're talking about $5000 DACs and $15,00
Perhaps the auto-sensing issue could be gotten around with some
attenuators in line with the analog outs? Sure, you'd lose some
dynamic range but most of us probably don't make use of all of it
anyhow. Has anyone tried this?
Also--let me throw another monitor into the mix: I've really enjoyed
PhilNYC Wrote:
> The primary reason I *didn't* get an Olive Opus was because I didn't
> want the internal hard drive. I already have a huge music collection
> on my network, and the last thing I needed was to have another hard
> drive...
It was the cost comparison I was trying to underline sinc
TiredLegs Wrote:
> As a former marketing manager in a company that sold a variety of
> consumer electronics products, I can confirm that ceejay is correct. In
> fact, the business plan for many such products includes price reductions
> over time, anticipating that as volumes rise, production cost
Yes, the active market can be broken down as follows:
1. cheap and s**ty active "computer" speakers;
2. moderate priced, but rather ugly, studio monitors;
3. Expensive audiophile actives.
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Hi Guys,
Thanks for all of you help.
I've just been given an Arcam Black Box 500 DAC from a friend. It's got
a faulty PSU, so i'm just fixing it up.
I'm not sure how good the DAC is, Does any one have any expereicne of
the 500?
Thanks again,
Jon
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Thanks Chris - I will modify my requirements to hit the -60 floor on the
auto-sensing. Good to know.
All power to you Andy. To my mind it's a no-brainer. For bedrooms,
studies, nurseries and conservatories a high WAF set of actives is the
way forwards.
The Swans look great, but there's no UK
Come on manufacturers, start producing more decent quality actives that
will pass the WAF test.
They will sell shedloads when the music server market really get's
going. It's the ideal solution to minimise the room box count.
Any novice I have showed the JBL's instantly "got it" and wanted a
pa
DynamicalSystem Wrote:
> With regard to the auto-off bug, does this mean that only the Mackies
> are affected?
>
> How about other Actives? Do they have the same problem?
See my edited reply above... :-)
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Ah yes - the infamous "people only buy one monitor" sales strategy! I
guess it makes life easy for the 5.1 and 7.1 crowd.
With regard to the auto-off bug, does this mean that only the Mackies
are affected?
How about other Actives? Do they have the same problem?
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DynamicalSystem Wrote:
> I'm not sure I understand the bug as it stands. By analog out, it means
> RCA, I'm guessing? Does this mean that all auto-sensing amps and
> speakers fail to sense with the SB? Does this happen even if the SB is
> in stand-by?
My Mackies are connected directly to the
Watch out, that price is NOT for a pair !
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Just noticed that Turnkey and dv247 have the Mackies on sale at 299
GBP.
That's quite insane.
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Thanks for that.
The Mackies are indeed nice. I use the Tannoy Reveal Actives in my
home studio, and often regret not getting the Mackies. The issue, as
you say, is WAF.
Requirements for active speakers from my perspective are:
High WAF
Auto Off/On
Great sound quality
RCA input
I'm not sure
ceejay Wrote:
> Remember its a heck of a lot easier to bring a product price down if you
> find you've overshot than it is to put it up if you find you've
> undercooked it.
As a former marketing manager in a company that sold a variety of
consumer electronics products, I can confirm that ceejay i
Thanks for that, very interesting.
Simon, if you don't get auto sensing actives, at least try to find
something with front mounted on/off switches. JBL and Genelec do but
many others hide the power switch at the rear of the cabinet.
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I'm using the Mackie HR624s. They're fantastic, but the auto-off doesn't
work if you connect the speakers directly to the SB analog outputs.
See the following bug for details:
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3784
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JJZolx Wrote:
> IMO, it's very much the opposite. I have seen product prices come down,
> but not by much. How do you explain to last year's customer who paid
> $2000 for a product, that this year the price is $1200?
Over the last 25 years, this has happened with everything from
computers to
CardinalFang Wrote:
> As someone pointed out to me - there is, the Olive Opus. It too is a
> audiophile player that does music only and it costs upwards of $2500 I
> seem to remember, but it includes its own server and disks and is plug
> and play. If there's a PC with iTunes there, it can use it
JJZolx Wrote:
> I have to admit, I'm becoming more and more cynical every day toward the
> entire high end audio industry. I have a lot of respect for the
> companies that don't equate high prices with the term "audiophile". I
> hate to say it, but I'm afraid that I'm in the camp that feels tha
Simon,
No they don't. It hasn't been a problem for me as they are shelf
mounted and in easy reach.
>From my research, the only ones I found with auto sensing were Mackie
HR624 or 824.
http://www.mackie.com/products/HR624/
They are meant to be suberb by all accounts but don't have any
protec
Hi Andy,
Can you tell me if the JBLs have an auto-sensing off and on?
Simon
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I have placed my order for 1.
There is a lot of talk here about the looks of the transporter but who
cares what it looks like, we need to know what it sounds like.
Also no true audiophile would ever consider having 802.11 radio
transmitters anywhere near his stereo setup! At least with the
trans
Yap! ordered 2 in total. One for a relative, one for myself, and the SB3
will be given to friends.
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Ultima Salon
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ceejay Wrote:
> Remember its a heck of a lot easier to bring a product price down if you
> find you've overshot than it is to put it up if you find you've
> undercooked it.
IMO, it's very much the opposite. I have seen product prices come
down, but not by much. How do you explain to last year's
ceejay Wrote:
> Remember also that there isn't, AFAIK, a direct competitor or even
> anything particularly close to help establish a value.
As someone pointed out to me - there is, the Olive Opus. It too is a
audiophile player that does music only and it costs upwards of $2500 I
seem to remember
highdudgeon Wrote:
> Sounds about right. Really, it looks like a great product, but I think
> they've overshot it somewhat. For two thousand, I will pass.
Well, I guess at new product launch time we all suddenly become
marketing experts... :) So now it must be my turn!
Remember its a heck of
I don't understand what's wrong with having BNC and AES/EBU digital i/o?
Lots of modern consumer grade audiophile components have them, and some
don't have SPDIF RCA at all. You might also note how much pro compnents
now migrate to a consumer market. I would put those extended i/o option
of Transp
Pale Blue Ego Wrote:
> Doing a quick net search, I see Crutchfield carries most of that line.
>
> model - price- low frequency limit
>
> Voyager 4 - 219/pr - 80Hz
> Voyager Pro - 299/pr - 70Hz
> Voyager Metro - 299/pr - 65Hz
> Voyager 5 - 299/pr - 70Hz
> Voyager 6 - 399/pr - 65Hz
> Voyager 7 -
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