Thanks tomjtx.
This about says it all except... if you aren't going to use the
Transporter's DAC then why buy it? You'd be better off saving your
money and buying a SB3 and using that along with an external DAC.
MC
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Now what?
Transporter Naim NAP 250 PMC OB1s.
Music catalog:
jhm731;161542 Wrote:
The http://www.welbornelabs.com/psreghc.htm is also based on the
original Jung design.
PS- the $30. salvaged power supply is a much better unit than the
Power One.
The one you pointed out is 9A on the 5v output, is that why it's
better?
Re: the welborne ps, it
Robin Bowes;161558 Wrote:
I'm not sure if he's still doing them but, ALW used to sell super-reg
boards.
http://www.alw.audio.dsl.pipex.com/index.htm
R.
I noticed in the archives you mentioned having a couple alwsr boards,
did anything ever come about?
Also in the archives, Seans
adamslim;161596 Wrote:
BTW there's a couple of pairs of Snells (type J and type K) on ebay at
the moment - these are really excellent speakers. They'll go for £100
or less, and will be far better than anything you can buy new for £500,
IMO. They are perfect for valves - easy load, nice
highdudgeon;161655 Wrote:
I've been listening with the Endlers all day. There is absolutely no
difference before/after. Wish they were better finished...specifcally
with markers that were easier to read.
I've never seen Endlers in the flesh, but from the pictures on his
website, the naked
Walleyefisher;161660 Wrote:
Anyone else have a spouse that doesnt understand that music is far
superior entertainment than the boob tube?
Here in the UK, a boob tube is an item of ladies' clothing.
And I can assure you that, on the right lady, it is far more
entertaining than any music I've
When I got my new speakers off ebay, unwrapped them and plugged them in,
my wife's response was and you got them for under £800? Cool!
The old girlfriends gently tolerated the music and the hifi, but I knew
which one to marry :)
Adam
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SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanling CDT-100,
mr335;161710 Wrote:
Thanks for the tip there, can't say I've ever heard of them but that's
just me showing my lack of knowledge in this field. The type Ks look
good.
The old Snells are the inspiration for the current Audio Note line -
they use the same letter system, and AN are open about
Skunk wrote:
Robin Bowes;161558 Wrote:
I'm not sure if he's still doing them but, ALW used to sell super-reg
boards.
http://www.alw.audio.dsl.pipex.com/index.htm
R.
I noticed in the archives you mentioned having a couple alwsr boards,
did anything ever come about?
Nope, I never made
My wife really did get what I was on about when I was researching the
Squeezebox (you know, ripping music to FLAC, tagging it all, playing
with SlimServer etc). Just looked to the ceiling, and said boys
toys...
When I finally got the squeezebox and got it all working, she was
converted.
tomjtx;161677 Wrote:
IMO it would be a waste of money to use the TP to feed an external DAC
since I don't think there is a DAC out there that is better.
If you want to use an external DAC you can save a lot by using it with
an SB
FWIW, I use my Transporter with an external DAC (Dodson
tomjtx;161682 Wrote:
I'm really glad I'm no longer married, now sitting on the couch with a
woman and listening to music has a whole other connotation:-)
and I get to do whatever I want with my room.
Amen to that :)
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1. My wife bought me my Squeezebox for Christmas last year.
2. She put up with me spending beaucoup hours ripping our CD
collection.
3. She put's up with my endless tweaking of the system.
4. She let me rearrange the living room to try to find the best place
for the speakers.
5. She let's me
Hi guys,
I am by no means an Audiophile, but you guys are, so I'd appreciate a
bit of advice!
I've been running my squeezebox3 into a NAD C340 Amp and Mission 773e
speakers for the past couple of months, and am reasonably happy with
the sound, but it's a bit thin and involving compared to my
FunkyMunkey;161761 Wrote:
Hi guys,
I am by no means an Audiophile, but you guys are, so I'd appreciate a
bit of advice!
I've been running my squeezebox3 into a NAD C340 Amp and Mission 773e
speakers for the past couple of months, and am reasonably happy with
the sound, but it's a bit
tomsi42;161764 Wrote:
Before spending any money - you are using FLAC or another lossless file
format ? If you are using MP3 or WMA - it could be that they are
compressed too much.
I started with changing the power supply to a linear one, and that made
the SB3 as good as my CD player. You
My wife told me - forced me! - to buy an Aktiv IsoBarik system in 1987 -
it ruined my bank account but she said she could never listen to
anything else again in quite the same way...
These days she loves the Squeezebox!
My oh my, how the times have changed...
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It looks like a well-built and reasonably-priced solution, mostly for
video playback.
For someone with a bunch of mpeg or DivX shows or movies on a hard
drive, this would be ideal. It would also be great for anyone with a
hi-def camcorder. They currently have to playback straight from the
Unless you get your TP modded, perhaps the best sound quality would be
an analog modded SB direct to amplifier. Eliminate the external DAC.
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This is off-topic but I know you guys probably know the answer...
is there any software that can broadly speaking do for video (eg
MPG/AVI etc) and ripped DVD's what SlimServer does for audio?
I need dvd cover art as a menu interface (or a folder style menu that
can show covers) and the ability
bluesdoc...what does the rest of your system look like?
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Skunk;161703 Wrote:
The one you pointed out is 9A on the 5v output, is that why it's better?
Re: the welborne ps, it doesn't have any opamps does it? How can it be
based on the Jung design? http://waltjung.org/PDFs/Improved_PN_Regs.pdf
You'll have to ask Wellborne why they recommend the
Phil,
I forgot.. do you have a modded SB2??? I must admit that the stock
SB2 with stock Walwart sounded flat and liveless to me.
PhilNYC;161739 Wrote:
FWIW, I use my Transporter with an external DAC (Dodson DA-218). And it
sounds far better than my SB2 + Dodson.
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95bcwh
I think Tom, who is about as stand-up a guy as you will find here, in
addition to one with an outstanding reference system and the trained
ears of a professional musician, has disproved this notion. Using a
Bolder full mods SB2 -- which incidentally works out to being
slightly more expensive
jhm731;161692 Wrote:
My TacT 2150s are used as power DACs and don't need any preamps or
volume controls.
Yes, I believe the Transporter would be a better value, if it was
exclusively dependent on a remote control with a display, but if you
and George like playing with the knob and
Codmate;161766 Wrote:
Just bear in mind that valves are wonderful for making music with - but
not for accurate reproduction.
I love my Fender valve-driven guitar amp - but will always use
transisters in hi-fi.
Umm, disagree...?
I listen to a lot of live music (i.e. unamplified, direct
Much as I like my Shek DAC, I think you'd do better improving the rest
of your system first. If you think it sounds a bit thin, I'd be
thinking about speakers - Missions can always be a bit bright and
lacking body, I have found. I reckon the SB3 might be exacerbating a
problem that was already
jhm731;161692 Wrote:
Are you saying the Transporter isn't revolutionary?
Of course not. CDs are revolutionary. FLACs just fly across the ether
cleverly; they don't revolve...
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SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio
Research 859, Living Voice
95bcwh;161822 Wrote:
Phil,
I forgot.. do you have a modded SB2??? I must admit that the stock
SB2 with stock Walwart sounded flat and liveless to me.
I have an Elpac power supply, but otherwise the SB2 is unmodded. Am
currently using my SB2 in my office system together with a modified
If the receiver did ok driving the speakers then the jolida will do
fine. In fact I bet it gives the impression of being more powerful than
the 85wpc receiver, or will at least go louder before objectionable
distortion kicks in.
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Skunk
jhm731;161065 Wrote:
IMO, the revolutionary Transporter should have been packaged in a
plain 1U case with no knobs or buttons controlled by a programmable
remote with a display like the Sonus [...]
Well, I'd love to see a Sonus-like remote for Slim units, but the
controls on the Transporter
My fully modded (analog/digital)platinum Sonicap upgrade SB3 will be
delivered any day now. I did not go for the Bybees. Total cost = $475 +
shipping. I have a Bolder modded Power One power supply ($2.50 + $100
for mods). I built my own power cord for the SB3 using silver wire. My
total expenses
jhm731;161818 Wrote:
Do you have the sensor leads connected at the SB end of the power
cable?
No, because I cut my DC lead off a router's wall wart in a fit of
instant gratification (though I did keep the SB wall wart intact which
I would recommend for comparison purposes).
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Skunk
Gawd. My experience. You'd be hard pushed to find something that sounds
better than than the Trannsporter.
MC
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ModelCitizen
Now what?
Transporter Naim NAP 250 PMC OB1s.
Music catalog: http://modelcitizen.mine.nu/music.txt
To my ears, I greatly preferred the SQ of the stock SB3/Mhdt
Constantine dac to the SQ of the stock SB3 analog outs. The stock SB3
SQ is fairly pedestrian.
Raja
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adamslim;161839 Wrote:
If you think it sounds a bit thin, I'd be thinking about speakers -
Missions can always be a bit bright and lacking body, I have found. I
reckon the SB3 might be exacerbating a problem that was already
inherent in your system.
Well, I only bought the speakers fairly
tomjtx;161677 Wrote:
I agree with MC but I don't mean this to answer for him.
The TP has a great DAC . I haven't heard better. i've compared it to
the Lavry DAC
(which many like better than the Benchmark).
I like the TP better than the Lavry. I think the 2 are so close it may
just be a
Are you using Windows ?
In that case, look to Ahead for the fullblown Nero suite, or Adobe for
the Premier software line. They allow you to download trial version
that will work for a few weeks.
Just so you can see if it is what you want.
Tom
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tomsi42
SB3, Rotel RC-1070/RB-1070, dynaBel
Which is what makes the Benchmark and Lavry such great values. Again,
if they're good enough for top mastering studios...they're probably
good enough for home use. You owe it to yourself to try one, if
possible.
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highdudgeon
Relax. It's about the music.
highdudgeon;161684 Wrote:
Technical and materialistic perfectionism are guy things. Women are
just as musical as men, of course. I know some terrific women
performers, ranging from opera singers to punk guitarists. By and
large, they're not so much into the fancy audio rig thing -- they
cliveb;161713 Wrote:
...If a fixed attenuation of about 10dB will do and you are not
confident about building your own, the Rothwells are much cheaper
(albeit still pretty expensive for what they are, IMHO).
I've not used a Transporter (yet), but I've tried both the Endlers and
the
rajacat;161863 Wrote:
To my ears, I greatly preferred the SQ of the stock SB3/Mhdt
Constantine dac to the SQ of the stock SB3 analog outs. The stock SB3
SQ is fairly pedestrian.
Raja
I'm with rajacat on this one also, the Constantine is in a class of its
own. Rajacat, how did you connect
That's quite true. Again, it isn't a rule...but we just spent a week
and around Venice. I went through a lot of shoe stores, generally
thinking about how quickly I could get my next coffee.
Mark Lanctot;161924 Wrote:
Good point - they've got shoes and clothes instead.*
* I do not intend
NewBuyer;161931 Wrote:
I'm with rajacat on this one also, the Constantine is in a class of its
own. Rajacat, how did you connect the two - with coax or optical?
Coax. If you read this forum regularly, it would seem that the Lavry,
Benchmark and the Dodson are the only dacs on the market.
I too have a Derek Shek DAC, and recently upgraded my amp to a Parasound
Halo A23. The amp made by far the bigger difference. I've since replaced
the DS DAC with my own DIY DAC, and while I like mine better (it's
staying), it's not as big a difference as changing the amp. That said,
you must
I'm still trying to find a woman to accept ME let alone all my toys! Of
course I've discovered as part of my personality that I'm generally
frugal about anything but my gadgets. It's a geek's life for me.
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Designed for pretty much every type of device and OS.
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bluesdoc;161532 Wrote:
So what do you think? for best SOUND quality would you think Squeezebox3
plus DAC (eg. Benchmark or equivalent), vs Transporter alone, vs
Transporter plus DAC (which might be overkill? or not?) thanks in
advance. BluesDoc
To answer part of your question, on a
catfood;161849 Wrote:
Well, I'd love to see a Sonus-like remote for Slim units, but the
controls on the Transporter are actually one of the big selling
features for me!
Most of the time I'm only a step or two away from my rack, when I'm
listening, so it's faster and easier to stand up and
The new Oppo dv-981hd has the following feature:
oppo Wrote:
High-resolution multi-channel digital audio output through HDMI
supporting CD, DVD-Audio, SACD, Dolby Digital and DTS sound tracks.See:
http://www.oppodigital.com/dv981hd/index.html
Question:
Which receiver or pre-amp can
That's a nice idea. RF remotes are a good thing. Something not much
bigger, WELL backlit, and RF. Maybe metal, too, like a Plinius remote,
so that you can fend off burglars.
Balthazar_B;161980 Wrote:
In my case, all the gear is stuffed in a closet, out of sight (and line
of sight, so no
jmourik;161993 Wrote:
The new Oppo dv-981hd has the following feature:
See: http://www.oppodigital.com/dv981hd/index.html
Question:
Which receiver or pre-amp can handle hdmi multi-channel input?
jan
The question might want to be 'which DAC can handle hdmi mutli-channel
input'.
jbm0;161674 Wrote:
Just FYI, in case you're not aware of this, with certain classes of
digital output hardware, the machine's output sample rate and bit depth
are controlled by the not-entirely-obvious Audio MIDI Setup
application (in the Utilities subfolder of Applications). I think that
I am pretty interested in Bluesdoc's question
I have SB3 + Perpetual Technology P1/P3 it sounds very good.
Now purely on aesthetics, the transporter appeals -looks great to me
love idea of dual display. but £1300 is hard for me to justify.
...but if it sounded better I could persuade
Always hankered after a pair of panel speakers ever since hearing
Maggies years back. Finally bought a pair of Audiostats plugged in
in place of SBLs. Got v cool reception from wife on looks size
alone. I didn't greatly appreciate the sound.
Then came across some old Maggies bought
I think it really comes down to personal taste and the type of sound you
prefer.
In my system the Transporter sounds distinctly different to SB3 plus
lavry, benchmark or Belcanto DAC2. Out of these 3 combos I would say
the SB3 plus the Belcanto DAC2 sounds the closest to the Transporter
tone
opaqueice;161971 Wrote:
To answer part of your question, on a technical level it's almost
certainly a bad idea to connect the transporter to an external DAC.
The reason is that any S/PDIF connection will induce jitter into the
digital signal, so the external DAC will be receiving a much
And, hey, they're only over $10k. Lavry makes a $9k unit, if you're
looking at things like that. Before you get there, though, you'd
better make damn sure you have out-of-this-world speakers and
electronics. Out of this world.
As for the technical level thing, how about getting technical and
LOLI am so glad I asked this question (my first posting!) and so
happy to see there is total unanimity G. It reassures me that I was
not missing something obvious to all. And that there is still room for
subjective experience. Once my head stops spinning from the excellent
comments, I'll have
These things are subjective, as you see, despite underlying technical
issues that are objective indeed.
Here's my take on it: a SB3 is good. From what I understand, modded
SB3s are equal or somewhat better. According to Tom, some mods
approach the Transporter. Anyway, the Transporter is a lot
You shouldn't have to switch sampling rates! If you're going to be
using the M-Audio interface all the time to feed the Transporter, just
set the TP to LOCK to incoming digital clock from your source and it
should switch automatically. You should be doing this ANYWAY when you
use an external
Thanks guys - I'll check these out.
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highdudgeon;162016 Wrote:
These things are subjective, as you see, despite underlying technical
issues that are objective indeed.
Here's my take on it: a SB3 is good. From what I understand, modded
SB3s are equal or somewhat better. According to Tom, some mods
approach the Transporter.
As for the aesthetics, that is a personal choice. I personally prefer
elegant looking components. As for sound, that is personal, too. I
prefer not to void warranties, if possible, and I, along with others,
strongly doubt any mod is going to match the output of a lavry,
benchmark, or mytek.
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