Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Wanted: Transporter

2007-03-09 Thread Amauta
Take a look here: www.slimdevices.com -- Amauta Amauta's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2669 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33445

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] $1000 DAC: Lavry DA10 vs used MF Trivista 21

2007-03-09 Thread cliveb
Phil Leigh;186468 Wrote: Hmmm - this noise would appear not to trouble the many Lavry fans so I wonder why not? Maybe it is effectively filtered out elsewhere? (I know prevention is better than cure but...) Sorry, I never meant to imply that the DA10 doesn't sound good. I've never heard one,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] $1000 DAC: Lavry DA10 vs used MF Trivista 21

2007-03-09 Thread crooner
Anybody has internal pics of the Benchmark? Given the small footprint and low profile chassis, I suspect it also has a switching power supply. -- crooner SB3 with Custom Linear Power Supply Lite Audio DAC-60 Tube DAC VPI Scout with Benz Micro Glider M2 Audio Research PH3, SP16L and VS110

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz Equalisation not gapless?

2007-03-09 Thread rbl
Is there a way to go back to 6.5.0? I can't find it on their web site. I also find 6.5.2 generally a little unreliable - stops at the end of tracks, and occassionally stutters in tracks too. I had previously put it all down to my setup, not that anything signifciant had changed. -- rbl

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?

2007-03-09 Thread AndyC_772
325xi;186512 Wrote: To summarise the overwhelming response - Toslink works according to specification, which no inherent production flaws, so there's no reason to avoid it, or even better, use coax only when Toslink isn't available. I didn't miss anything, right? Toslink works by shining an

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sonos with Transporter

2007-03-09 Thread sting
I'm thinking about getting a Transporter to use with a Sonos ZP80. The plan is to use a Sonos hanheld controller and the ZP80 will output digital signal to the digital in on the Transporter. The Transporter is mainly going to be used as an external DAC (and potentially as a player for non-16bit

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Power Supply

2007-03-09 Thread opaqueice
clar2391;186565 Wrote: I'd like one that is relatively cheap and that's plug-and-play. Does such a thing exist? Try searching the forums. -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sonos with Transporter

2007-03-09 Thread CardinalFang
sting;186663 Wrote: I'm thinking about getting a Transporter to use with a Sonos ZP80. The plan is to use a Sonos hanheld controller and the ZP80 will output digital signal to the digital in on the Transporter. The Transporter is mainly going to be used as an external DAC (and potentially

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sonos with Transporter

2007-03-09 Thread sting
CardinalFang;186667 Wrote: If you prefer the Sonos remote, then to me it would make more sense to buy a ZP80 and a good external DAC, like the Lavry, Benchmark or any of the others recommended in these threads. Alternately, have a look at the Nokia 770/800 as a remote control for the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sonos with Transporter

2007-03-09 Thread jeffmeh
sting;186669 Wrote: Stereophile review on Transporter said that Transporter alone was better than SB3/DAC combination so I'm interested in the DAC inside the Transporter. I wonder if adding a Sonos ZP80 frond-end (hence one additional digital connection between the ZP80 and the Transporter)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sonos with Transporter

2007-03-09 Thread Skunk
sting;186669 Wrote: Are there flaws for such combination (Sonos ZP80 plus Transporter)? I really like the multi-room feature of the Sonos. I don't have a Transporter, but in my opinion you fit the target market of slim devices perfectly. You can have the multi-room capability, like

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Power Supply

2007-03-09 Thread Skunk
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32231 -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33443

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?

2007-03-09 Thread Skunk
AndyC_772;186654 Wrote: The connector in an optical cable doesn't really make any difference - it's just a mechanical thing designed to hold the fibre in place so that the light coming out of the end shines onto the phototransistor. With all due respect.. The cheap one that came with my

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter and Nuforce monobloks

2007-03-09 Thread harmonic
Hi all My main amp is a tact millenium . when i use the transporter as an transport into the emillennium the sound i get is very close to perfect . its no contest vs the ice amp wich is a moddified version of the asp1000 modul with a much larger power supply. But what i do like about the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?

2007-03-09 Thread AndyC_772
The free one that came with my PlayStation 2 clicks very positively into place - I assumed that would represent about the cheapest component available. The ability of consumer electronics manufacturers to shave a penny or two off a product never ceases to amaze me. Let me revise my assertion:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?

2007-03-09 Thread Skunk
AndyC_772;186694 Wrote: The ability of consumer electronics manufacturers to shave a penny or two off a product never ceases to amaze me. Yeah it kind of makes one wonder what's been shaved inside the box. Thanks for the info, looks like I should try a different cheap one. -- Skunk

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeeze Box and TacT

2007-03-09 Thread Mark Lanctot
Does it happen when you transcode to WAV? See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33190page=2 -- Mark Lanctot It's like, you know, a New Age religion, but with better treble response. - Jon Heal Mark

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?

2007-03-09 Thread 325xi
pablolie;186611 Wrote: So don't even drive the car, just stick to brand dogma?? :-) Dude, may I say you drive me crazy? Do you really see only blacks and whites? I just say your so beloved empirical methods ARE necessary as a part of the whole, but not when used alone. A mere audition what

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?

2007-03-09 Thread 325xi
AndyC_772;186654 Wrote: Therefore, it is not unlikely that jitter at the input to the clock recovery circuit will be worse, and that in turn may mean that jitter at the DAC chip (where it matters) is also worse. Oops, here we go again! So, Andy, what's your conclusion here - Toslink is more

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sonos with Transporter

2007-03-09 Thread tomjtx
In my system the TP sounds much better as a self contained unit. When fed from a transport or a SB the sound was not as good. I tried this through a 600.00 coax cable and a glass fiber tosslink. This may be due to flaws in the spdif interface. If you want to use the Sonos you might be better

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?

2007-03-09 Thread AndyC_772
325xi;186710 Wrote: Oops, here we go again! So, Andy, what's your conclusion here - Toslink is more prone to jitter related problems then coax? Forgive me for side-stepping the question, but I think it would be pointless to guess without making some quantitative measurements on the electrical

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?

2007-03-09 Thread 325xi
AndyC_772;186717 Wrote: ... an opto-isolator designed to pass data at a couple of Mbits typically has rather slow rising edges on its output, because of the passive pull-up used to bring the output to a logic '1' in the absence of light from the LED. This would inherently tend to increase

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The perfect complement for Slim Devices

2007-03-09 Thread adamslim
Apologies to those for whom this is old news, but clearly anyone with a Slim Device needs a FatMan (valve) amplifier: http://www.fat-man.co.uk/docs/product/itube_402_1.htm The next Logitech acquisition surely? :) Adam -- adamslim SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?

2007-03-09 Thread konut
Having followed this thread, I am definitely more jittery than when I started. A purely subjective observation, YMMV. -- konut konut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1596 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-03-09 Thread fkuti
dagordon;183721 Wrote: Just wanted to add a strong vote for the Citypulse DAC. I'm using a Citypulse with TCXO upgrade with a SB3, and the results are impressive. I was VERY skeptical upon first hearing it -- it sounded very digital, and not as resolving as the SB3's analog outs. But

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sonos with Transporter

2007-03-09 Thread sting
tomjtx;186716 Wrote: In my system the TP sounds much better as a self contained unit. When fed from a transport or a SB the sound was not as good. I tried this through a 600.00 coax cable and a glass fiber tosslink. This may be due to flaws in the spdif interface. If you want to use the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?

2007-03-09 Thread jeffmeh
Whichever is subject to more jitter, unless you have an extremely revealing system, very good speakers, a room with good acoustics, and some very keen ears, it is likely to be negligible. If you possess all of the above, I'm envious, lol. -- jeffmeh

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sonos with Transporter

2007-03-09 Thread tomjtx
sting;186749 Wrote: I take it that the Transporter is not considered a jitter rejecting DAC? Do you use one remote for multi-room control? Thanks. I don't know if it is jitter rejecting but it sound a lot better when using it wi fi. I use my macbook from all rooms but the Nokia would

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?

2007-03-09 Thread 325xi
jeffmeh;186751 Wrote: Whichever is subject to more jitter, unless you have an extremely revealing system, very good speakers, a room with good acoustics, and some very keen ears, it is likely to be negligible. If you possess all of the above, I'm envious, lol. The original question was

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?

2007-03-09 Thread pablolie
325xi;186709 Wrote: Dude, may I say you drive me crazy? Do you really see only blacks and whites? I just say your so beloved empirical methods ARE necessary as a part of the whole, but not when used alone. A mere audition when taken out of context proves nothing. But add it to other ways to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?

2007-03-09 Thread AndyC_772
jeffmeh;186751 Wrote: Whichever is subject to more jitter, unless you have an extremely revealing system, very good speakers, a room with good acoustics, and some very keen ears, it is likely to be negligible. If you possess all of the above, I'm envious, lol. Funnily enough, that's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?

2007-03-09 Thread 325xi
pablolie;186759 Wrote: First of all, I was clearly kidding. Please accept my sincere apologies then. :) pablolie;186759 Wrote: Second of all, you must confuse me with someone else when it comes to the so beloved empirical methods. I actually have a very pragmatic approach when it comes to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?

2007-03-09 Thread jeffmeh
AndyC_772;186765 Wrote: Funnily enough, that's exactly what I thought about a year ago, when I confidently ditched my (early, and rather expensive) DVD player in favour of a cheap DVD recorder. I figured that all digitally connected sources should sound the same, and therefore, that I could

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sonos with Transporter

2007-03-09 Thread sting
Thank you all for your help. I have just placed an order for a Transporter and will pick it up at Slim Devices this afternoon. I plan to first check out the Transporter before worrying about which remote to use, although I really like the Sonos. In your opinion, what's the best analog port

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Field recording

2007-03-09 Thread Eric Seaberg
I have one of these http://www.tascam.com/Products/hdp2.html and LOVE IT. It is PRO quality (better than audiophile, IMHO) as it will record up to 192kHz/24-bit on CompactFlash. Built-in phantom power for condenser mics, mic soft-limiting, external wordclock and video sync capabilities as well

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SACD and DVD-A recordings?

2007-03-09 Thread Eric Seaberg
I just got back from a long vacation to Kona, Hawaii. I'll try to spend some time doing this and let you know. Even if there is 'some' degradation taking the analog out of my Pioneer Elite DV-47A player, I'm starting with a 24-bit source and keeping it 24-bit through high-quality DA/AD

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slimserver web gui home page title - change?

2007-03-09 Thread ModelCitizen
I'd like to change the title of the main Slimserver home page from SlimServer to something else. Anyone know how I can do thi?. I thought is would be as simple as changeing the metatag for index.html but it's not. Yeah, I know... I've asked this before and received the answer... but I can't find

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sonos with Transporter

2007-03-09 Thread tomjtx
sting;186779 Wrote: Thank you all for your help. I have just placed an order for a Transporter and will pick it up at Slim Devices this afternoon. I plan to first check out the Transporter before worrying about which remote to use, although I really like the Sonos. In your opinion,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MhdtLab DAC

2007-03-09 Thread mangew
gobikey;186742 Wrote: I have a Paradisea with the SB3, Krell amp, Vienna Acoustics Speakers. I'm not going to exaggerate. With A-B testing between the SB3 DAC and the Paradisea, the average listener would not notice the difference. To me, the biggest difference is with the lower

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sonos with Transporter

2007-03-09 Thread sting
tomjtx;186797 Wrote: If your pre amp is balanced, I find the balanced (xlr) outs to sound better in my system Do you have recommendation for the brands of the XLR cable? I presume that high quality cables are critical in the analog world. Yes, my pre-amp is balanced. Thanks. -- sting

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slimserver web gui home page title - change?

2007-03-09 Thread JJZolx
ModelCitizen;186789 Wrote: I'd like to change the title of the main Slimserver home page from SlimServer to something else. Anyone know how I can do thi?. I thought is would be as simple as changeing the metatag for index.html but it's not. Yeah, I know... I've asked this before and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MhdtLab DAC

2007-03-09 Thread occam
dlite;186583 Wrote: Personally I think just about any tube adds distortion to the signal not musicality. Good music should not need to be smeared by a tube to sound good. Just my opinion. And what makes you think that 'smearing' (lack of resolution?) originates with the cathode follower

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slimserver web gui home page title - change?

2007-03-09 Thread Skunk
Well I hacked around awhile and came up w/ something different than Jim. In C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\HTML\EN\standardheader.html I changed: title [% IF pagetitle %][% pagetitle -%][% ELSE %][% Slimserver | string %][% END -%] /title TO: title New and Improved Title /title Should

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini

2007-03-09 Thread khedspeth
325, Would using something like the Benchmark Dac1 with a USB input get around your concerns? You are correct, the mac mini is nothing more than a lapop system crammed into a desktop box and i'm not up on its insides either. I'm going to do some experimenting but may try to look more into the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sonos with Transporter

2007-03-09 Thread SuperQ
sting;186800 Wrote: Do you have recommendation for the brands of the XLR cable? I presume that high quality cables are critical in the analog world. Yes, my pre-amp is balanced. Thanks. Because it's balanced, it will matter even less than it matters for unbalanced. I would goto guitar

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini

2007-03-09 Thread 325xi
khedspeth;186815 Wrote: 325, Would using something like the Benchmark Dac1 with a USB input get around your concerns? You are correct, the mac mini is nothing more than a lapop system crammed into a desktop box and i'm not up on its insides either. I'm going to do some experimenting but

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slimserver web gui home page title - change?

2007-03-09 Thread ModelCitizen
Cheers both, but loved this: SlimServer is scanning your music library. Chill out. :-) MC -- ModelCitizen It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. Transporter Naim NAP 250 PMC OB1s.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?

2007-03-09 Thread P Floding
jeffmeh;186773 Wrote: Actually, I was not referring to the differences between different sources, but between the same source connected via coax vs. toslink. Two different connection methods are comparable to two different sources. If one of the cases can sound different, so can the other.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can you tell the difference between mp3 and wav?

2007-03-09 Thread joatca
More testing and I still can't tell which I prefer. However, I just played with Audacity to subtract an encoded/decoded MP3 waveform from the original WAV, so what's left should be the differences. I have two 30-second FLAC examples of the same piece, one the difference between 320Kbps CBR and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can you tell the difference between mp3 and wav?

2007-03-09 Thread jeffmeh
joatca;186844 Wrote: More testing and I still can't tell which I prefer. However, I just played with Audacity to subtract an encoded/decoded MP3 waveform from the original WAV, so what's left should be the differences. I have two 30-second FLAC examples of the same piece, one the difference

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?

2007-03-09 Thread jeffmeh
P Floding;186832 Wrote: Two different connection methods are comparable to two different sources. If one of the cases can sound different, so can the other. Of course they can, but I will stand by my point. It is negligible without a highly revealing combination of system, room, speakers,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2007-03-09 Thread buddhabreath
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?

2007-03-09 Thread pablolie
jeffmeh;186851 Wrote: Of course they can, but I will stand by my point. It is negligible without a highly revealing combination of system, room, speakers, and ears. It is probably negligible in most cases even where such a combination exists. Not sure it has to be a very accurate system -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2007-03-09 Thread barty
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeeze Box and TacT

2007-03-09 Thread ColSanders
I've tried every permutation. Makes no difference. Mark Lanctot;186704 Wrote: Does it happen when you transcode to WAV? See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33190page=2 -- ColSanders ColSanders's