Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 VS the Transporter

2008-01-30 Thread Caad
To CardinalFang.. Thanks .. A clean up of the flux will be done..;-) To SeanAdams: Actually.. Replacing the caps to Black gate was an improvment, But the Big improvment was to seperate the opamp output and especially the gnd between the opamp and the RCA connectors from the PCB GND.. As you can

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Lavry DA10 DAC: Subjective Impressions and Listening Tests (Long)

2008-01-30 Thread Andrew B .
I own and use both the Lavry DA10 and the Benchmark DAC1. They are very close in performance (both are very good). Close enough that you could probably choose between them on the basis of features - and I have evaluated them through two fairly critical systems with accurate active monitor

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BW 802D Speakers. Tempted.

2008-01-30 Thread GuyDebord
Phil Leigh;263652 Wrote: I suppose you know that a lot of the CD's we enjoy are mastered/balanced using BW's...(not necessarily 802D's for sure, but...) I don't personally know any (UK) mastering studios that uses other than top-end BW, Spendor, ATC, Linn, Naim, Harbeth, PMC etc. I also

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BW 802D Speakers. Tempted.

2008-01-30 Thread Andrew B .
GuyDebord;263886 Wrote: [...] The truth of the matter is that a lot of mastering is done in a lot of parlance sources including headphones; you said it yourself, Spendor, ATC, Linn and I can add AE's, Dynaudio, Tannoy and so many non audiophile brands, plus double the variety in

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Static spark to transporter knob and displays whacked out

2008-01-30 Thread zanash
how about grounding the chassis of the unit to earth ? or even the carpet ? interesting notion -- zanash Acoustician and builder of interesting cables zanash's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best sound possible

2008-01-30 Thread alekz
hshrader;263789 Wrote: If the PC (specifically the XP K-mixer DLL) is not forced to do sample-rate conversion, it can maintain bit-transparent operations. This implies that if it does sample rate-conversion you don’t get bit-transparent operations. You can use external converters or up/down

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best sound possible

2008-01-30 Thread adamslim
hshrader;263878 Wrote: I need no beating. Thanks for unequivocal clarification. Hans LOL :) Welcome to the forum Hans. I've not been around here too much recently, but it seems in my absence some initiation rites have been set up! I thought that kind of thing was restricted to the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BW 802D Speakers. Tempted.

2008-01-30 Thread adamslim
GuyDebord;263886 Wrote: Dont get me wrong, BW are not bad speakers, but they spend a lot of their budget in heavy branding campaigns which the majority swallow. Lets say they are not the best in the ratio of what you get for the money, Almost all the time I discover how much better are

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best sound possible

2008-01-30 Thread alekz
offtopic adamslim;263918 Wrote: I thought that kind of thing was restricted to the Audio Circle :) Actually, AC is a much friendlier forum ;-) /offtopic -- alekz alekz's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BW 802D Speakers. Tempted.

2008-01-30 Thread gsawdy
You may have already considered unbox speakersBut if you haven't, you should definitely try to listen to the Martin-Logan Summits. I would also suggest you try to find a local owner of the Orions. http://www.linkwitzlab.com/orion_us.htm You can sign up and post a request to audition on the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BW 802D Speakers. Tempted.

2008-01-30 Thread Phil Leigh
Andrew B.;263897 Wrote: Sorry Guy, I have to pick you up on this. Perhaps you are confusing mixing with mastering. I have never seen or heard of anyone mastering on headphones. Occasionally people may mix or mix-check on headphones. But mastering is a very separate and serious discipline,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Lavry DA10 DAC: Subjective Impressions and Listening Tests (Long)

2008-01-30 Thread Pat Farrell
Andrew B. wrote: 5. The Lavry doesn't have the armor-piercing blue LED that Benchmark put on the front of their DAC1 (and that I had to cover with a piece of black tape!). I hate that LED, did the same thing on my DAC-1 Even worse is the red one for errors. -- Pat Farrell

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter paired with Squeezebox Controller

2008-01-30 Thread gsawdy
snarlydwarf;262871 Wrote: The SB Controller works with any device that talks to SqueezeCenter (ie, even SliMP3's and SB1's) since it tells the server what to do, not the device. So no need for a transporter-specific version, the SBC works fine with the transporter. ... If you don't,

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] firmware update for TP

2008-01-30 Thread Shredder
Hey. My TP makes an ugly, loud, and potentially destructive pop when I try to use the digital inputs. As I learned in a related post, that problem was solved w/firmware ver. 33. Unfortunately, I am only running 31. I was told that I need to run SS/SC 7.0 to update the firmware. However, I am

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Deutsche Grammophon

2008-01-30 Thread kai
Some might already have noticed that Deutsche Grammophon (www.deutschegrammophon.com) opened its own online download shop and is now selling more than 2500 albums of which more than 600 are not even available on disc any longer. The music comes in DRM-free 320 kbps mp3 and includes the booklet

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Lavry DA10 DAC: Subjective Impressions and Listening Tests (Long)

2008-01-30 Thread crooner
Isn't this the infamous DAC with the generic internal switching power supply? -- crooner Customized dual chassis Super Squeezebox EAD DSP-7000 Series III DAC with HDCD and mods. VPI Scout with Benz Micro Glider M2 Marantz 10B tube FM tuner Audio Research PH3, SP16L and VS110 Vandersteen 2Ce

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 192-320 kbps mp3s vs. FLAC on SB3 w/o Upgrades

2008-01-30 Thread kai
I'd expect that a 96 khz FLAC converted to 320 kbps mp3 might sound even better than converted to an 48 khz FLAC, but I never tried. Thus 320 kbps mp3 might be an option to play your HD audio files on an SB3. -- kai kai's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter paired with Squeezebox Controller

2008-01-30 Thread snarlydwarf
gsawdy;263992 Wrote: Ths SBC may not tell the device what to do, but doesn't it require the device to receive the RF signal and transmit it to SqueezeCenter? This is a question as I'm confused as to how it works. Given this discription of the SBC, can someone please explain and compare how

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Static spark to transporter knob and displays whacked out

2008-01-30 Thread seanadams
zanash;263910 Wrote: how about grounding the chassis of the unit to earth ? It is already, or at least it should be. It would be a good thing to check that the ground pin on your wall outlet is properly wired. The idea with touching the chassis first instead of the knob is that it will have

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Static spark to transporter knob and displays whacked out

2008-01-30 Thread iPhone
2eleven;263827 Wrote: The ESD training at my company makes it seem like doomsday if electronics are subjected to sparks... Thanks, John Hello John, ESD is mainly a concern of ICs/circuit boards that are uninstalled or being handled. Most ICs once installed in equipment only need to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 192-320 kbps mp3s vs. FLAC on SB3 w/o Upgrades

2008-01-30 Thread Robin Bowes
kai wrote: I'd expect that a 96 khz FLAC converted to 320 kbps mp3 might sound even better than converted to an 48 khz FLAC, but I never tried. Thus 320 kbps mp3 might be an option to play your HD audio files on an SB3. Er, why? R. ___ audiophiles

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Deutsche Grammophon

2008-01-30 Thread gharris999
How about a mailto link? -- gharris999 gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42883

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter paired with Squeezebox Controller

2008-01-30 Thread gharris999
ModelCitizen;263869 Wrote: No that would play every track in the genre. I am used to navigating to a genre and picking an album that is tagged with that genre... ah.. I feel like some Choral Music at the moment, which album shall I play... that sort of thing... Have a look at your player

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Klimax DS - Network Music Player

2008-01-30 Thread haraldo
After reading the German review ref'd earlier in this discussion In my view, The Linn Klimax DS looks like a seriously flawed product, the architecture is a far cry from what you would expect from a statement product today. There's no remote included, I have never heard about a player for the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] firmware update for TP

2008-01-30 Thread amcluesent
Yep, I'm using firmware 33 with 6.5.4 OK. Download the latest nightly 7.0 build and extract the 'transporter_33.bin' file to the ..\firmware directory where slimserver is installed. Edit the transporter.version file to read - # Transporter firmware # # fromto # from1..from2 to 1..33

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] firmware update for TP

2008-01-30 Thread Shredder
Thanks for the help. -- Shredder Shredder's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11380 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42882

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Klimax DS - Network Music Player

2008-01-30 Thread Phil Leigh
You are completely missing the point of the product: 1) Most Linn gear is expensive..some is overpriced but their target market can generally afford it. 2) This is not supposed to be a standalone player like the SB - it's intended to be part of a top-end Linn system, which would include a system

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Klimax DS - Network Music Player

2008-01-30 Thread tomjtx
go get'em haraldo. great post. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38815

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Klimax DS - Network Music Player

2008-01-30 Thread Phil Leigh
tomjtx;264035 Wrote: go get'em haraldo. great post. So I see that reasoned argument is out of the question :o) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 192-320 kbps mp3s vs. FLAC on SB3 w/o Upgrades

2008-01-30 Thread Phil Leigh
kai;263999 Wrote: I'd expect that a 96 khz FLAC converted to 320 kbps mp3 might sound even better than converted to an 48 khz FLAC, but I never tried. Thus 320 kbps mp3 might be an option to play your HD audio files on an SB3. This is about as unlikely as things get...but please try it and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Klimax DS - Network Music Player

2008-01-30 Thread tomjtx
Phil Leigh;264038 Wrote: So I see that reasoned argument is out of the question :o) Cannot reasoned argument and fun ranting coexist? :-) -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Klimax DS - Network Music Player

2008-01-30 Thread Phil Leigh
tomjtx;264042 Wrote: Cannot reasoned argument and fun ranting coexist? :-) Oh OK then if you must! :o) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Static spark to transporter knob and displays whacked out

2008-01-30 Thread Phil Leigh
erm...surely the case is grounded (connected to mains earth)? I've never seen properly grounded equipment display this behaviour with ESD, but if the ground connection isn't good/there... (I guess the TP knob might be a special case?) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Klimax DS - Network Music Player

2008-01-30 Thread haraldo
quote: it's intended to be part of a top-end Linn system This is really great You buy an insanely expensive player, and it's so incredibly inflexible that you are forced to use it with the rest of the similarly priced Linn Klimax range This really provides nice choices to the consumers So

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Static spark to transporter knob and displays whacked out

2008-01-30 Thread 2eleven
Phil Leigh;264041 Wrote: erm...surely the case is grounded (connected to mains earth)? I've never seen properly grounded equipment display this behaviour with ESD, but if the ground connection isn't good/there... (I guess the TP knob might be a special case?) The chassis is grounded, and my

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Klimax DS - Network Music Player

2008-01-30 Thread Phil Leigh
haraldo;264047 Wrote: quote: it's intended to be part of a top-end Linn system This is really great You buy an insanely expensive player, and it's so incredibly inflexible that you are forced to use it with the rest of the similarly priced Linn Klimax range This really provides

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Klimax DS - Network Music Player

2008-01-30 Thread Robin Bowes
Phil Leigh wrote: tomjtx;264035 Wrote: go get'em haraldo. great post. So I see that reasoned argument is out of the question :o) C'mon Phil, this is the *audiophile* forum. :) R. ___ audiophiles mailing list

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Deutsche Grammophon

2008-01-30 Thread Robin Bowes
gharris999 wrote: How about a mailto link? Take your pick: From Customer Servive when browsing the catalog: dg [at] freshdigital.co.uk From the DG contact page: contact [at] deutschegrammophon.com R. ___ audiophiles mailing list

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Klimax DS - Network Music Player

2008-01-30 Thread Phil Leigh
Robin Bowes;264053 Wrote: Phil Leigh wrote: tomjtx;264035 Wrote: go get'em haraldo. great post. So I see that reasoned argument is out of the question :o) C'mon Phil, this is the *audiophile* forum. :) R. Yeah - I know, but I'm a persistent chap :o)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Klimax DS - Network Music Player

2008-01-30 Thread haraldo
You are proving my point yourself The DS locks you into a Linn proprietary architecture You have to use all Linn products to get the full benefit... That's not open architecture to me. If that's what you want fine I'm just not buying it and I'm very sceptical... What do you do if you

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Klimax DS - Network Music Player

2008-01-30 Thread haraldo
I didn't change my position, I just realized that I was a bit unclear, (say incorrect if you will :-D) in my first statements. Regards Harald N :-D -- haraldo haraldo's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Static spark to transporter knob and displays whacked out

2008-01-30 Thread tomjtx
Shouldn't this problem be moot. After all it's long been known you should never touch the TP, always use the remote. Body oils have a negative reaction at the quantum level to the TP even if only touched on the chassis, let alone the knob! Touching will create negative quantum energy which can

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Static spark to transporter knob and displays whacked out

2008-01-30 Thread Phil Leigh
tomjtx;264099 Wrote: Shouldn't this problem be moot. After all it's long been known you should never touch the TP, always use the remote. Body oils have a negative reaction at the quantum level to the TP even if only touched on the chassis, let alone the knob! Touching will create

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Klimax DS - Network Music Player

2008-01-30 Thread tomjtx
I wonder which is better in a street fight. The TP is lighter but likely easier to swing. The weight of the Linn might make it harder to aim. The Linn might be less likely to be used by a female in a domestic squabble but does that really justify it's price? Ivor, scotch swilling chauvinist

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Klimax DS - Network Music Player

2008-01-30 Thread Phil Leigh
haraldo;264078 Wrote: You are proving my point yourself The DS locks you into a Linn proprietary architecture You have to use all Linn products to get the full benefit... That's not open architecture to me. No it doesn't - its no different to any CD player! It will work with any

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Klimax DS - Network Music Player

2008-01-30 Thread Phil Leigh
tomjtx;264105 Wrote: I wonder which is better in a street fight. The TP is lighter but likely easier to swing. The weight of the Linn might make it harder to aim. The Linn might be less likely to be used by a female in a domestic squabble but does that really justify it's price?

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Static spark to transporter knob and displays whacked out

2008-01-30 Thread tomjtx
Phil Leigh;264102 Wrote: I'm not falling for your Maple Knob. It wooden make any difference... LOL, very nice -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BW 802D Speakers. Tempted.

2008-01-30 Thread Andrew B .
Phil Leigh;263952 Wrote: Andrew - the Linn and Naim labels use their own speakers...and their CD sound quality is generally accepted as top notch. I was assuming that was the case - and also discounting it as a special case (a rather biased endorsement). The reason for the high technical

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Klimax DS - Network Music Player

2008-01-30 Thread netim3
haraldo;264078 Wrote: The DS locks you into a Linn proprietary architecture You have to use all Linn products to get the full benefit... That's not open architecture to me. Harald N The Linn DS is based on UPnP, a totally open standard. It doesn't dictate what server software you

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Deutsche Grammophon

2008-01-30 Thread kai
Robin, Thanks! dg [at] freshdigital.co.uk is what I used (got a friendly reply there), but maybe I should sent it to the other one as well. Anyway, I wanted forum members to have a look at the site ;-) It's worth it. BR, Kai -- kai

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BW 802D Speakers. Tempted.

2008-01-30 Thread GuyDebord
Andrew B.;263897 Wrote: Sorry Guy, I have to pick you up on this. Perhaps you are confusing mixing with mastering. I have never seen or heard of anyone mastering on headphones. Occasionally people may mix or mix-check on headphones. But mastering is a very separate and serious discipline,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Klimax DS - Network Music Player

2008-01-30 Thread radish
netim3;264157 Wrote: The Linn DS is based on UPnP, a totally open standard. It doesn't dictate what server software you use, what control device/remote you use, what NAS you use, what amp you use, or anything else for that matter. You get the full benefit by pairing it with whatever you

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Klimax DS - Network Music Player

2008-01-30 Thread twylie
Are there any UPNP music servers that handle large libraries gracefully? The ones I experimented with a couple of years ago started to choke around 10-20k tracks. I haven't looked into any recent offerings that may be improved in terms of performance. -- twylie Thecus N5200 - transporter -

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Receiver vs SB3

2008-01-30 Thread mauidj
Does anyone have any info on the audible differences between the new Receiver and the SB3? I understand they use different DACs. I will be using it in a stock configuration in a mid audiophile set-up.no external DAC or upgraded PS. Many mahalos. -- mauidj Oracle Delphi/SME IV/Dynavector,

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 1000 Posts and Counting...

2008-01-30 Thread ezkcdude
I had an idea to start this thread a couple days ago when I was at 998 posts, but I guess I forgot, because this post will actually be 1004 for me. Anyway, looking back the last couple of years, it's hard for me to believe I actually had that many posts here. Some of you have many more than I do,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Receiver vs SB3

2008-01-30 Thread Pat Farrell
mauidj wrote: Does anyone have any info on the audible differences between the new Receiver and the SB3? I understand they use different DACs. I will be using it in a stock configuration in a mid audiophile set-up.no external DAC or upgraded PS. I would expect nothing audible on a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 192-320 kbps mp3s vs. FLAC on SB3 w/o Upgrades

2008-01-30 Thread kai
You're probably right. I forgot that good old mp3 - unlike newer lossy codecs - only supports sampling rates up to 48 khz. -- kai kai's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6608 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 1000 Posts and Counting...

2008-01-30 Thread dean
And thank you so much for your great contribution to our community! All the best, -dean (and the rest of your friends and Slim Devices and Logitech) -- dean dean's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 1000 Posts and Counting...

2008-01-30 Thread zanash
its great to have a forum where you can post your thought how ever off the wall with out get abused ! -- zanash Acoustician and builder of interesting cables zanash's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Static spark to transporter knob and displays whacked out

2008-01-30 Thread zanash
I assume then that you advocate the self grounding regime for sb3 users ? as that unit does not have an earth conection as an aside fortunately were not afflicted by carpet anymore due to static allergies dust retention etc once removed my wife cough got better and the hifi sounds

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 1000 Posts and Counting...

2008-01-30 Thread xand1x
Great job guys, can't really say it any better than the OP =) Thanks for creating the transporter btw, i'll never be without one again. -- xand1x Onkyo SE-90 -- Slim Devices Transporter (Black) -- First Watt F1 -- AKG K1000