1. You need to do a factory reset first. (see blog)
2. Jive2 just kills the 2nd jive process.
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ALL EQ/DRC involves some element of gain reduction - it's necessary to
avoid clipping when boosting and happens whether you like it or not
when cutting.
Level attenuation in the digital domain is not a problem if done
properly (ie in 24 or 32 bit) - and not excessively. After all it has
already
firedog;621914 Wrote:
I've reinstalled the toolbox and run the ttbuffer command 3 times, and
each time I got a message that buffer set to 4000. However, when the
Touch reboots and I run ttstat the buffer mod is listed as disabled
and buffer size is still 2
Why would decreasing the buffer
adamdea;621874 Wrote:
actually digital domain volume control is fine by me.
johann;621878 Wrote:
Manipulating the signal for room correction in SBS or in DSP does not
necessarily mean you lose information but digital volume control will.
I'm perfectly happy with digital volume control too.
snottmonster;621922 Wrote:
Why would decreasing the buffer size have any positive impact on sound
quality? In fact, wouldn't setting it too low have an adverse effect
due to possible under-running and there then being insufficient data to
feed to the DAC?
On a pretty busy PC or Touch (if
Also, wouldn't you have the same volume control problem with any digital
crossover- eg if we went touch -DCX2496 to 2 poweramps how would you be
controlling volume?
and even with analogue crossovers, are they necessarily perfectly
pair-matched?
Still the synching problem with the 2 SBs remains.
soundcheck;621934 Wrote:
And that's what's finally causing less jitter.
Less jitter by reducing the depth of memory buffer supplied via a high
speed ethernet connection?
I think I understand now...
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snottmonster;621941 Wrote:
Less jitter by reducing the depth of memory buffer supplied via a high
speed ethernet connection?
I think I understand now...
No. It's not the ethernet buffer. It's the Alsa (Linux soundlayer)
buffer.
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Phil Leigh;621921 Wrote:
ALL EQ/DRC involves some element of gain reduction - it's necessary to
avoid clipping when boosting and happens whether you like it or not
when cutting.
Level attenuation in the digital domain is not a problem if done
properly (ie in 24 or 32 bit) - and not
I don't want to argue with success, but were you trying to play hi-res
(24/96 or higher) material when you thought the Transporter sounded
less detailed? Because that would be the only situation in which any
downsampling would be necessary. The Duet Receiver can handle up to
24/48, so if you were
adamdea;621937 Wrote:
Also, wouldn't you have the same volume control problem with any digital
crossover- eg if we went touch -DCX2496 to 2 poweramps how would you be
controlling volume?
and even with analogue crossovers, are they necessarily perfectly
pair-matched?
Yes and you could have
aubuti;621965 Wrote:
I don't want to argue with success, but were you trying to play hi-res
(24/96 or higher) material when you thought the Transporter sounded
less detailed? Because that would be the only situation in which any
downsampling would be necessary. The Duet Receiver can handle
soundcheck;621959 Wrote:
No. It's not the ethernet buffer. It's the Alsa (Linux soundlayer)
buffer.
Never said otherwise
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johann;621968 Wrote:
Yes and you could have similar issues with analogue xovers themselves,
or power amps and speaker drivers for that matter but at least as long
as there are just one volume control there are less sources of errors.
Surely the answer is that as with a transporter you trim
adamdea;621976 Wrote:
Surely the answer is that as with a transporter you trim the analog
output level to roughly the right amount and then use digital
attenuation mjust for the fine tuning.
I do this at home using a passive preamp and very rarely change its
volume setting.
For the active
johann;621980 Wrote:
Are you seriously debating that having 4 volume controllers instead of
one is not harder to get well-aligned?
BTW, having tow transporters is very far from your cheap solution
isn´t it?
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Curt962;621899 Wrote:
I've injected tens of thousands of my own dollars into this human
experiment over the years. I have a dog in this fight.
Not to discredit in any way some of the truly great audio components
encountered along the way, the truth remains that many simply do not
live
Just to be clear on this, if DSP DRC requires a 3dB boost (at any
frequencies), it will reduce the overall level by 3dB first to ensure
that there is enough headroom for the boost without inducing clipping.
If DRC determines a 3dB cut is required then it will achieve this cut
by reducing the
Are you all sure about the function of this setting?
*mysqueezebox.com Integration:* (on tab in SBS Settings)
-By default, many player settings are synchronized between Squeezebox
Server and mysqueezebox.com. To disable this feature, select the
Disabled option below.-
I always thought having
Phil Leigh;621983 Wrote:
Just to be clear on this, if DSP DRC requires a 3dB boost (at any
frequencies), it will reduce the overall level by 3dB first to ensure
that there is enough headroom for the boost without inducing clipping.
If DRC determines a 3dB cut is required then it will
Apesbrain;621985 Wrote:
Are you all sure about the function of this setting?
*mysqueezebox.com Integration:* (on tab in SBS Settings)
-By default, many player settings are synchronized between Squeezebox
Server and mysqueezebox.com. To disable this feature, select the
Disabled option
Were soon to commence work on our garage conversion (see my other posts)
the resulting living room will be 15ft x 8ft (separate storage area 8x5)
I now conncluded my Dynaudio floorstanders are to be sold.
I'm looking into wall mounting speakers from Dali and they will be
mounted on the dividing
adamdea;621745 Wrote:
Only playing. Mind you the record now states that you have always had
them.
Seriously though- bearing in mind the enormous amount of money you have
apparently spent on your system, if you do want to go down the music
server /squeezebox route you might as well do it
2) Transporter: Will not use the DAC on the transporter as the Audio
Research Dac 8 is far superior. It has two oscillators: one for
multiples of 44.1 KHZ and one for multiples of 48 KHZ so we avoid
fractional sampling and the music is played at the native frequency.
Have some 88.2 khz
I will do some more critical listening tonight...but it did seem
everything improved after I disabled sync...it was getting late...so I
may have been a bit out of it. I will report back.
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dhinesh;621992 Wrote:
Speakers: yup! have always had them and seem to have erased it from the
signature when updating :)
Thanks for all the input. Let me share my thoughts with y
2) Transporter: Will not use the DAC on the transporter as the Audio
Research Dac 8 is far superior. It has
garym;621970 Wrote:
agree, and not sure, but question: is the bitrate limiting a per player
thing (it appears so in the settings under player/audio). And if it is,
if bitrate limiting is turned on for the duet would that affect the
transporter as well if keep players in synch is turned on?
Apesbrain;621985 Wrote:
Are you all sure about the function of this setting?
*mysqueezebox.com Integration:* (on mysqueezebox.com tab in SBS
Settings)
-By default, many player settings are synchronized between Squeezebox
Server and mysqueezebox.com. To disable this feature, select the
adamdea;622011 Wrote:
...The touch has 2 different oscillators actually. I know this because i
replaced at Audio upgrades (maybe now called Fidelity audio or
something).
Some dacs do automatically convert sample rates- but I didn't know that
all of them (apart from AR) did. I am not sure
johann;621980 Wrote:
Are you seriously debating that having 4 volume controllers instead of
one is not harder to get well-aligned? Besides, you don´t have 2
sources feeeding your setup at once do you?
BTW, having tow transporters is very far from your cheap solution
isn´t it?
IMO, Linn
adamdea;622028 Wrote:
No, don't worry I was not debating that seriously or otherwise.
Perhaps I haven't made my point clearly. I am not arguing about the
problem of synching to players just the suggestion that volume control
considerations make the server side crossover suggestion
Agreed. However, sigh, it does seem that the stream synching problem is
going to be difficult to surmount.
Are there any very clever people out there with an idea.
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adamdea;622028 Wrote:
No, don't worry I was not debating that seriously or otherwise.
Perhaps I haven't made my point clearly. I am not arguing about the
problem of synching to players just the suggestion that volume control
considerations make the server side crossover suggestion
aubuti;622014 Wrote:
Bitrate limiting is definitely a per-player settings, but I'm not sure
what happens if you sync a bitrate-limited player with a non-limited
player. It's certainly worth seeing (a) if bitrate limiting is turned
on for the Duet Receiver, and if so, (b) how it sounds when
adamdea;622011 Wrote:
Anyway maybe you can use the Touch usb out with the Audio Research DAC.
Is there a MOD for this? Do you know the link? Noted all your points
with thanks. Will see if I can demo the transporter and compare.
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Squeezebox Touch, Duet and Classic, Ayre C 5 XE MP
Are there 2 definitions for sync being used here? Sync'ing audio
streams vs sync'ing settings? Or does sync'ing settings also result in
all squeezeboxes getting the lowest common denominator stream quality?
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Phil Leigh;622025 Wrote:
Most DAC's do not resample. The Touch does not resample.
Some DAC's use an ASRC chip to resample. Native rate playback is
irrelevant when using ASRC or SOX on the SBS. This is an enduring myth
that needs busting :-)
(NB do not confuse with oversampling which is
One definition for the verb to sync, two different applications of
that verb. :-)
One is sync'ing settings, the other is sync'ing audio playback. They
are completely independent of one another. Sync'ing mysb/SBS settings
does not sync playback, and sync'ing playback does not sync mysb/SBS.
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dhinesh;622054 Wrote:
Hi. Heard of SOX but not sure what it is? is it a plugin? Read about it
somewhere but do not know how to install it? What does it do and how do
you install it? benefits?
Please advise. Thanks
SOX is already installed when SBS is installed. SOX is used to playback
192
Agreed - I'm ONLY talking about syncing audio streams...
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You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103
- full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's,
aubuti;622056 Wrote:
One definition for the verb to sync, two different applications of
that verb. :-)
Touché
aubuti;622056 Wrote:
One is sync'ing settings, the other is sync'ing audio playback. They are
completely independent of one another. Sync'ing mysb/SBS settings does
not sync
JezA;619070 Wrote:
Add up all the money you propose to spend on fancy power supplies,
cables, NAS's and other voodoo.
Spend it on a Transporter.
Job done, right.
I agree on this one. The transporter has much better DAC's. I have
both in similar setups and have moved each of them back
Bit behind on the tech talk side of things, but, thinking to avoid the
sync problem of two SB's could the software not seperate the left lo
right lo left hi and right hi, put them on a DD signal and then out of
the SB digi out, in to a nice AV processor, using the front channels
for the left and
dhinesh;622052 Wrote:
Is there a MOD for this? Do you know the link? Noted all your points
with thanks. Will see if I can demo the transporter and compare.
On the touch forum (apparently works with ayre dac but not all others)
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82110highlight=USB
Ok I have been listening and something is still missing. Just isn't as
full bodied as before.
Here is another piece to the puzzle. Before I noticed the difference I
was messing around with the duet controller...and I clicked on digital
inputs and clicked on Balanced AES/EBU...music stopped
That's just an input selector, but you could always do both a Xilinx and
a factory reset to get the player back to its virgin state. This will
take two power ups and you'll have to reenter your wireless password
after doing the factory reset.
Xilinx reset: Press and hold 1 on the remote while
I did a factory reset alreadydo you think I should do a Xilinx reset
and a fctory reset?...yes it is pain...but would do it again if there is
a chance that could bring me back to where I was. What is Xilinx reset
anyway?
Thanks to all that have responded.
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